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why does programmers seem to think Stack Overflow sucks? I've seen that sentiment on /g/ as well (though I haven't been here in a while)

serious question, I think it's quite helpful.
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it enables shit pseudo-coders who couldn't even fizzbuzz to save their life to pass for being semi-competent long enough to get hired or even move up the ladder to lower management in tech companies.
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>>56615051
Stack Exchange in general is pretty great. But sometimes you get THAT guy, the one who will write an entire codebase with Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V.

Examples on Stack Overflow are good to show concepts, but sometimes are not the sort of thing that you would want to put in your code verbatim because they miss important implementation details (Because they were just examples for a single specific question!) that crop up months later in some pretty headache-inducing bug hunts.
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>>56615051

99K

I don't if it sucks but instead use reddit.com/r/learnprogramming and unistall everything and startover
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>>56615051
Avoid communities driven by fake internet points. Using stack overflow because Google led you there is fine, but don't ask/answer questions. It often turns into who can post the shittest answer first, because the first post often gets all the points. Often the suggested answers assume an isolated single person project, and answers are aggressively over reaching and add unnecessary complexity to team projects
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>>56617464
I love that one
>Those related questions
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>>56615211
Why is fizzbuzz even considered difficult by a lot of people? You literally only need to know about conditional structures and loops.
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>>56617464
I've never had this problem.
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>>56617630
It was enough to trigger rants by people that couldn't do it.

Seriously, someone couldn't Fizzbuzz, got mad, wrote a blog post, and caused a dogpile: https://css-tricks.com/tales-of-a-non-unicorn-a-story-about-the-trouble-with-job-titles-and-descriptions/
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>>56617464
>>56617576
>>56617650
this is fake as fuck

SO sucks but not like this, its mostly the reddit-esq circle jerk that the reputation creates, and the air of entitlement that the mods/admins/top users have.
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>>56615051
it sucks really bad, I'm even trying to filter it out of my Google's search results
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>>56617820
>this is fake as fuck
Well obviously!

I really hope nobody thinks that is real.
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>>56615051
Stack overflow feels great when you first discover it and you know nothing about the subject

When you gain even a little experience on the subject you see it for what it is, a collection of terrible advice and bad practices voted to be good (which is a common problem with all "internet communities" that use "voting", "democracy", and persistent accounts to decide what's good and what's not)

SO can be useful if you are extremely cautious and use it only as inspiration for your research and original solution
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Basically because of how caustic autism and the indian caste system can be. Here you get the greatest concentration of both those.
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>>56617778
this article gave me cancer
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>>56617778
>that article
jesus christ thats disgusting
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>>56621326
I like the comments.
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>>56616873
>the one who will write an entire codebase with Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V

is that even possible to do? in my first internship i was shitty as fuck and used to copy paste chunks of code that did more things than i needed without even understanding them, maybe that made up 1/4th of my code or something like that. a whole codebase is probably impossible

nowadays i never copypaste, i just read the suggested code and make my own version, and usually prefer explanations instead of just code. the biggest problem with the website in my opinion is some bad programmers, mainly indians, talking out of their ass and giving very very bad advice
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>>56621474
Not literally, but it's fun to say and reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a06l_f7ZTM
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>>56621474
It's almost possible.

Some glue is required between answers.
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>>56617464
kek'd
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Stack overflow is fine, if it helped you solve a problem then theres nothing wrong with it.

Its 'bad' because the pajeets around you write programs from copy pasting. But thats not SO's fault.
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>>56621513
>Furiously mashing Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V
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>>56621474
>and usually prefer explanations instead of just code.
This!
Too bad so many folks just give "answers" that are only code, without any explanation.
Great, now I can fix my problem, but I have no idea what I just did. And if I understood all aspects of the language, I wouldn't need to ask to start with.
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>>56621104
>I want to solve my problem by writing arbitrary text.
>Fuck off, this is how you do it.
Seems fine to me.
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>>56622356
>I want to do this
>Fuck off, here's how to do something else instead
Seems like StackOverflow to me.
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>>56622414
I bet you want to parse HTML with regular expressions too.
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>>56617778
Damn. I am a shitty programmer by any standard and this made me cringe hard
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>>56622482
You lost that bet.
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>>56622414
>I want to do this
>I understand that you are having problems with [something tangentially related to your question]. You must do [some bullshit thing totally unrelated to anything]. - <kid with funny sounding name>
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>>56617630
well, that's the point.
It's ridiculously easy, but a LOT of people who claim they're "coders" can't even attempt to do it without stack overflow
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>>56617630
You'd be surprised by how many people have done a 3-4 year college degree in computing and can't write a FizBuzz solution in an interview.
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>>56622821
in my experience, when I helped conducting a hiring process for junior webdev positions, about 90%.
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>>56615051

Because /g/ is full of the type of people that can't get jobs.

And when they do somehow get through the interview stage they sit around at their desks struggling, taking fucking ages to finish a 3 story point ticket because they think they are too good to 'google it'. Not many of these sort finish their probationary period.
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>>56615051

Stack Overflow is an invaluable resource.

People who are attempting to *learn* programming do not like Stack Overflow because they sign up, ask a stupid/repetitive question, get redirected to relative threads, and get butthurt that they weren't treated like special snowflakes.

This is 100% true of every person who dislikes Stack Overflow.
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>>56622964
>This is 100% true of every person who dislikes Stack Overflow.
Absolutes are wrong %100 of the time
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>>56623092
that rule you've suggested sounds like an absolute to me senpai
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>>56623149
so i guess he's wrong then
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>>56617778
WTF is Fizzbuzz!!
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>>56617881
poor boeing
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>>56623189
A simple programming problem to weed out people that can't program their way out of a wet paper bag.
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>>56623189
Here is an example: https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition
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>>56623236
>>56623216
thanks!
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>>56623236
kek
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>>56623236
This issue though
https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition/issues/78

>I would like to point out that I don't use buzzwords; I simply employ a vocabulary that centers around maximizing the value for shareholders by decreasing IT costs and increasing ROI by embracing solutions instead of products and minimizing stakeholder risk. This is why I'm proposing that we migrate the project to IBM ClearCase and start using an agile methodology. Management will save time by not having to write requirements, and the crowdsource will save time by having the best tools that money can buy. Only Agile can overcome the distances, communication latencies, and red-tape of such a project. Doing so will increase the value for the shareholders because they'll get a product that is backed by the most advanced development processes on the face of the earth.
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>>56623296
>I would like to point out that I don't use buzzwords; I simply employ a vocabulary that centers around maximizing the value for shareholders by decreasing IT costs and increasing ROI by embracing solutions instead of products and minimizing stakeholder risk. This is why I'm proposing that we migrate the project to IBM ClearCase and start using an agile methodology. Management will save time by not having to write requirements, and the crowdsource will save time by having the best tools that money can buy. Only Agile can overcome the distances, communication latencies, and red-tape of such a project. Doing so will increase the value for the shareholders because they'll get a product that is backed by the most advanced development processes on the face of the earth.
hahahahaah beautiful
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>>56623482
Good taste
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>>56621513
How can I do this?
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>>56617778
Holy shit I feel a lot better about my job prospects. Thanks for the laugh.
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am i an idiot
for(i = 1; i<=100; i++)
if(i/3 == int && i/5 == int)
print(fizzbuzz)
if else(i/3 == int)
print(fizz)
else
print(fizzbuzz)
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>>56625026
meant to have buzz on the else
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>>56625026
pls tell me g
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>>56625026
>>56625099

Yes
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>>56625026
i/3 == int doesn't actually work, right? Maybe you could do type(i/3) == int though
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>>56625026
What about numbers that aren't either fizz or buzz? Also what kind of fucking language lets you use int as a variable name?
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>>56625143
>>56625147
isnt a language just sudo
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>>56625147
>>56625143
>>56625135
for(i = 1; i<=100; i++)
if(i/3 == int && i/5 == int)
print(fizzbuzz)
if else(i/3 == int)
print(fizz)
if else(i/5 == int)
print(buzz)
else
print(i)


looked at the requirements again
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>>56625026
for(int i = 1; i > 16; i++)
if (i % 3 == 0 && i % 5 == 0)
print fizzbuzz
else if (i % 3 == 0)
print fizz
else if (i % 5 == 0)
print buzz
else
print i

Very simple
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>>56625215
got the rough idea and i havent programmed in months, i'd say im good
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>>56625215
should be i < 16
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>>56617778
>https://css-tricks.com/tales-of-a-non-unicorn-a-story-about-the-trouble-with-job-titles-and-descriptions/
This website is slow as fuck.
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for (var a = 1: a <= 100: a++) {
var b = "";
if (a % 3 == 0)
b += "Bizz";
if (a % 5 == 0)
b += "Fuzz";
console.log(b || a);
}

Why are we doing fizzbuzz? I didn't read the thread - did I do one or did I fuck it up...
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if x/5 = 0 print buzz

here you go
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The mods are annoying
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>>56625026
Just made this.
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>>56625215
Repetition dumbass, just get rid of first if statement and change else if on both to just if
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