>Linux doesn't need defragging

>>56571199
it doesn't need defragmenting because it's a journaling filesystem

that doesn't mean it doesn't fragment or can't be defragmented, only that fragmentation doesn't affect read/write times

>>56571199
SSD

>>56571199
>what is placebo

all that will do is spread the data more thinly across the drive, which is actually the opposite of defragmenting in the windows sense

>>56571218
scratch that, it has nothing to do with journaling and I'm fully talking out of my ass

>>56571199
in the case of ext2+ you will not need to defragment because of how the filesystem works.
every time a file is saved it is saved appart from other files to ensure that they are all sequential and next to each other.
the only time you run into fragmenting issues is when the hard drive gets full.
but all you have to do is take like an external hard drive and copy your files over. delete them on your system and then restore them.

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>>56571257
>all you have to do is take like an external hard drive and copy your files over. delete them on your system and then restore them
yeah, no biggie

>>56571286
only when your drive is full.
like having less than 5mb free space.
the system corrects itself when used if theres enough free space.

>>56571199
The fact that you can defrag a filesystem doesn't mean that you should. It's a nice thing you can but for the most of the time you don't need to.

>>56571199
>not understanding that thinking you need defragmentation is the meme

fucking windows, poisoning the minds of "power users" and normal computer users since 1995

>you need disk defragmentation
>you need an antivirus
>you need a firewall
>you need an antimalware
>you need to compose mails in html
>you need file extensions
>you need a start menu

>>56571714
adding

>you need to download software from websites

>>56571199
If you're not running a server there is absolutely zero reason to use Linux. It's a pile of shit as a desktop.

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>there are people on /g/ right now who unironically use file systems other than reiserfs

>>56571714
more

>you need codec packs
>you need an office suite

>>56571795
My filesystem contains more than just /var, so yeah.

>>56571774
What if you're writing software to run on servers?

What if you're good at computers?

What if I take this bait?

>>56571257
That's called full allocation. The shit windows filesystems use is called sparse allocation. Sparse allocation is way more susceptible to fragmentation because it fragments data by design. Full allocation resists fragmentation until there's not enough free space left to place to avoid fragmenting data.

Full allocation is also faster because data can be read in sequence rather than in being a mixed up clusterfuck

>>56571199
Due to vastly superior superiority, even a defragmented windows partition is faster mounted on linux than windows.

>>56571859
Being "good at computers" has absolutely nothing to do with running a Linux desktop. It only signals an inhuman patience for a second full-time job consisting of pointless menial tasks and gluing ramshackle parts together.

>>56571897
It's really cute how far you'll go to defend your computer illiteracy.

>>56571929
The irony is that I very likely have far more experience with *nix systems in general than you

>>56571199
>wincucks finally figure out that Linux has tools that it really doesnt need, but has in the off chance it's needed
I've never heard of or seen a fragmented ext partition in my life. anon can you please show me one?

>also SSD

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Anbody else remember when Microsoft promised us Vista would have a new improved journaled filesystem?

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to be fair I do sorta missing watching the visualization of data being defragmented

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>>56571944

>>56571944
You've convinced me. What should I use instead?

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>>56571199
meh-meh

>>56571987
What?
>>56571989
On a home desktop? Win7

>>56571944
I find the chance of my evil twin being Pol Pot more likely.

>>56571985
as a linux user with an SSD i remember spending hours watching drives defrag. there is something about it that feels cozy.

>>56571714
>>you need file extensions

Umm, those are pretty convenient actually

>>56572005
And why? Be specific, I want to say the right thing at Best Buy.

>>56572023
He doesn't mean it like that, it means that Windows is so shitty that it still checks for something arbitrary like extensions instead of file headers.

>>56571795
I've never used it ever I think. Ext2/3/4 are good enough.

>>56572005
>On a home desktop? Win7

what benifit does Win7 have over Linux for the desktop?

>>56572023
The issue is less that windows allows file extensions and more that it allows anyone to arbitrarily rename files to make them executable.

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>>56571218
>only that fragmentation doesn't affect read/write times

>>56571774
This is fun. We're having fun today.

>>56571795
>a Deprecated FS made by a guy who killed his wife
yea... no

that projects' about as dead as Hans Reisers wife

>>56572090
I understood that joke :D

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>>56571859
>What if you're good at computers?
What does this even fucking mean .....

>>56572090
>Killed his wife
All the good software was written by the mentally ill.

The real question here is why does a silly little thing like a fragmenting filesystem trigger the wincucks inferiority complex this hard, when there are so many more important ways windows is inferior?

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>>56572106
You know these things do more than Facebook, right?

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Defragging only takes a couple seconds on a fast drive, and it sort of maintains itself anyway. The utilities for defragging are there for special circumstances really.

>>56572112
>All the good software was written by the mentally ill.
Hail based Terry Davis.

>>56572131
i'm good at computers too!

>>56571199
>making another thread after you got btfo in the last one
fuck off shill

>>56572132
Go away faggot.

>>56572005
>Win7
You are just another hipster like freetards if you don't use win 10

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>>56572203

>>56572132
It's mostly a server problem for lunix.

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>>56572135

>>56572233
I've seen this faggot on /a/.Why is'nt he banned by mods yet?

>>56572281
Mods don't check this board. No clue if they respond to reports.

>>56572293
>>56572281
>>56572203
shitposts, deserve ban
>>56572233
shitpost, but understandable
>>56572132
not a shitpost

Why does everyone hate this namefag again?

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>>56572278
Now I'm passing the same image again and again through deepdream.

Life is what you make of it.

>Not using btrfs
It's like you hate your own computer.

>>56572396
btrfs has cli defragmenting

>>56572293
I got banned for posting nudity on /g/, but it was about 2 hours after the fact.