/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

First for quad core t420 a best

>mom wanted one of those tablet/"laptop" hybrid to replace her old one
>ordered one a couple weeks ago, shit was already broken
>she just ordered a T420

>>56561754
if she broke it in 2 weeks then she'll find a way to break a t420

Why the fuck can't I get bluetooth working on my T420?

>>56561784
is it a 3rd party card with bt built in?

>>56561536
just got free T60, it's getting old but im surprised by the power it still has after installing linux, also this keyboar feels so goddamn good after using Acer's shitty cheap laptop for years

>>56561777
It was already faulted when delivered

>>56561813
then rma it ya donger

>>56561839
It's been returned. T420 was only like 30 bucks more than what she ordered

Ok so I read the guide but I'm still not sure.

I bought a 650€ Asus laptop rive years ago. Decent CPU and GPU.
Is there something in that budget that can run some averge games, and display HD ?

Also I could really use a small, cheap laptop for classes that can run Elementary or even Mint

>>56561880
either you turbo overpayed for your t420, or you bought a damn cheap hybrid thingy
>>56561940
x220 would be ideal for a small laptop

>>56561953
>x220
Don't even need that much power tbqh

>>56559161
>What is prime?
PRIME is a Linux way for GPUs to send display buffers to each other for displaying. In this case using an output from iGPU to display stuff rendered on eGPU. Pretty much like Optimus on Windows except you cannot turn off the eGPU.

My finding was that using PRIME with an eGPU causes massive tearing and lowers the performance so I haven't been using it. Next Xorg release should have fixes for Nvidia PRIME synchronization though which should reduce tearing.

>Are the drivers modded?
The drivers are from ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa to get the up-to-date official drivers instead of the stable drivers from Ubuntu repository. No driver modifications involved.

>eGPU boot is weird
I reckon it's because the BIOS notices unexpected display adapter and has to do some setup. It only happens when a display adapter is added or removed between boots so if I have eGPU attached for multiple boots it happens only on the first one. I never remove the battery and always am plugged to wall when using eGPU.

>>56562087
so put it in power saving mode and get longer than 2 hours of battery life
and IDK about you, but I like having a computer that isn't a laggy piece of crap. so 2nd gen core i with moderate power saving is the minimum that I'd go, and even then it can be a bit laggy.

>>56562108
Yeah, makes sense. Still hesitating with the x200

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I have this weird problem with the optic drive on my T420.
Sometimes the LED light would start blinking and the tray would eject on it's own.
Any ideas?

>>56562184
are you 100% sure it's on it's own?
because I've found that it is stupidly easy to trigger the dvd drive button on my t420/30.
also remember ctrl e in certain programs ejects the disk

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>>56562204
I used to think maybe I was hitting it without realizing it.
But after yesterday I'm sure it eject on it's own.
I left it running, and when I came back I saw the LED blinking and the tray ejected.
And my button isn't easy to push either.

Today, i brought the x200 to work.

Weird looks, "anon wtf is this lol???" comments, and people telling me that I should get a new laptop. How little they know about comfyness.

I have a doubt. I have it charging now. Does the current keep on passing through the battery when full? or does it redirect through another circuit?

I remember old laptop screwing up the battery if you had them always connected, but I don't know how updated the power design is on this thing.

>>56562575
>I remember old laptop screwing up the battery if you had them always connected, but I don't know how updated the power design is on this thing.
that hasn't been an issue for a long time.
>Does the current keep on passing through the battery when full? or does it redirect through another circuit?
the battery is used as a UPS when it's plugged in. It's also used when you draw more power than the power adapter can handle.
so basically yes it goes through the battery, but the battery is constantly going between 95 and 100% to prevent damage or anything
>>56562587
seems alright, but for that price I'd wait a little bit longer for the kabby lake/gtx 10 series laptops to come out.
kabby won't be a big improvement, but the 10 series gpus will be

Is it normal that my t420s needs 2min to start?

>>56562617
no
reinstall your os
if that doesn't fix it then get a new hard drive
if that doesn't fix it then replace your thermal paste/entire heatsink.
with a hard drive it shouldn't take too much longer than a minute to start up

>>56562617
HDD with windows? maybe
SSD with anything. no

What's your spec anon?

>>56562615
>between 95 and 100%
I thought that was only if you installed some package.

>>56562615
>>56562587
ALSO
I want to know if the cpu is good, i wanna play arma 3 on it and i know itll be a bitch to run. is 2.6hz good enough?

>>56562636
that's inside the battery
what you are talking about is to the computer itself, so really it's more like 90%-100%
>>56562639
arma 3 should run fine I think
you are mostly limited by the server you play on, and not really the computer you play on.
like with my desktop I saw literally no performance difference going from a 4670k + a 7970 to a 4790k and a 970.

btw sqt probably would have been a better place to post the original post, but things tend to get ignored there

>>56562615
>>56562636
>constantly going between 95 and 100%

B-but that's bad isn't it? It wears down the charge capacity.

>>56562687
do you know anything about overclocking, ive never done it but how far could i overclock 2.6hz before it gets too hot(over 65cel is too hot for me)

>>56562689
no, it's best for it
well besides taking it out at about 60% charge and only putting it in when you need it.
but that would make your system run at 800mhz when plugged in, you run the risk of it powering off randomly, and it just being damn inconvenient for the battery only lasting 5% longer after a year or two.
>>56562722
it's an hq so you can't overclock it.
if the bios allows you (which it probably won't) you could overclock it to it's max all core turbo boost (general max turbo -0.2ghz).
But the only advantage would be slightly cooler temps.
also this is a laptop, expect 80c under full load at minimum.
and with turbo boost expect like 95-104c for 20 minutes, then down to 95 or lower
and yes, running that hot for that amount of time is perfectly safe, and your cpu will most likely outlive the first component to die on that computer

>>56562768
>expect 80c under full load at minimum
are you saying that if i play arma in ultra, my computer will melt? So itll basically last a year?

>>56562815
80c won't make your computer melt
105c is technically overheating, but it can still function at that temp.
you'd need to be running at like at least 200c for something to actually melt
and considering that pretty much every laptop runs at atleast 80c under load just fine I think yours will be fine

>>56562768
>running that hot for that amount of time is perfectly safe
Not him but where to find info about this?
Specifically for Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz

>>56562829
wtf? my current notebook (dv6) runs around 70 max load, and i havent dusted it in months. This cant be, gaming laptops usually are this hot?

>>56562834
personal experience
the fact that most laptops survive just fine
google
putting 2 + 3 and getting 5 (assuming that 2 is all laptops run at like 80+c under load, and 3 being that most laptops survive for 3+ years unless you break it somewhere else)
>>56562848
have you run prime 95 for longer than 10 minutes?
and are you stress testing the gpu at all?
also if your laptop doesn't support turbo boost it will run a lot cooler than one that doesn't (since going from say 2.6ghz uses ~18 watts, and 3.4ghz uses ~45 watts on my 3720qm)

>go to hit escape
>hit F1 every time
>go to hit f1
>hit F2 instead

REEEEEEEEEEEEE I wish the X200 had a different style of keyboard

>>56562877
another reason to get a more modern laptop

>>56562873
i havent really tested it, but it doesnt matter. I have a few other questns, if its idle or running just the browser it will be around 60c right? And are gaming laptops quiet when running big games, like if i ran arma it wouldnt be louder than a highway in the distance?

>>56562908
I wish but the X220 has a 16:9 screen. There's no middle ground, except getting a T410

>>56562877

This.

Open pause menu in DooM opens help screen. Help screen saves game.

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>>56562873
>unless you break
Well, I had a core melt down.
With HP DV6 Pavilion laptop with 2.10 GHz AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor for Notebook PCs QL-64.
One of the cores became faulty after a few years and can't use it anymore.

>>56562914
>if its idle or running just the browser it will be around 60c right?
sounds about right for most laptops
especially if you have a quadcore in a laptop that turns off the fans at low temps
>And are gaming laptops quiet when running big games, like if i ran arma it wouldnt be louder than a highway in the distance?
no laptops are quiet under full load
gaming laptops tend to be louder under full load, but their fans tend to be a lot less annoying since they are bigger and less whiney
>>56562927
the difference between 1280x800 and 1366x768 is practically unnoticeable for real world use.
quit falling for autistic memes.
also I'm going to tell you something that you probably don't want to hear
1440x900 16:10 < 1600x900 16:9
>>56562971
huh, you actually managed to kill just one core, and have the rest of the laptop still fully functioning?
Impressive, I've never seen that before.
but yeah HP (heating problems) are known for running a wee bit too hot under load.
pretty much every manufacturer designs proper laptops though

>>56562994
>you actually managed to kill just one core
Apparently I started to have random BSoD, and then some suggested to use linux which also gave kernel panic.
But nobody seems to know what causing it.
Updated BIOS/Formatted/MWB but nothing seemed to help.
I noticed if I set the CPU power from the Power management I get none to very few BSoD.
While many suggested that it a lot HDD was dying, I realized it was the CPU so I ran CPU benchmarks but everything seemed normal.
Until I run S+M benchmark and it detected that my CPU 0 was faulty.
So I manged to use it for a few months by disabling that core.
Until it couldn't boot anymore.
Still like to fix it, but some "shaddy computer repair guy" asks for 300$ to fix it, which I doubt he can since he though lubuntu was infected windows install.

Anybody own a T460? My T420 died and I want something with current specs. Is it any good?

>>56562768
>well besides taking it out at about 60% charge and only putting it in when you need it.

Never heard of that. I've been always told to not putting out until full charge.

And, what about when putting it in? is it OK to wait for the battery to reach 5% or so? (I was told that too)

>buy X230 "good" condition
>turns out shit, palmrest has damage from these small standoffs located over the screen, antenna cover is loose, screen has tons of white spots
>send back and get mad
>they replace the cover and plamrest with new ones, put in factory new IPS panel, disassemble and assemble to check if its good and send it to me again
should i be happy? $250, EUropoor

So, how much effort will I have to put into a used thinkpad if I buy one? I found a T430 that I like for $428, but if I'll add $200 I can buy a new device with roughly same specs, worse build quality but in mint condition and better warranty

>>56563249
$250 for an x230t (I assume it's t since you talk about the antenna cover) is pretty good.
especially now that it should be pretty much perfect.
>>56563264
$428 is a terrible deal for a t430.
you could get a t440 for that easily
I spent $200 on my t430 (not in perfect condition, but nothing wrong with it).
so expect to pay between $200 and $300 (max) for the laptop

>>56563310
$380 is the cheapest T430 I've found around here, used T440 is $635
If I want them cheaper I'll have to gamble with ebay and international shipping, which makes me feel a bit uneasy

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>>56563310
its normal X230, antenna cover i mean that plastic bullshit tip on edge of screen cover, picrelated.
it was slightly loose on one side.
im only afraid that this laptop has some kind of history of being tossed around so that damage was effect of it and it has something broken inside. case wasnt damaged except for that plastic thing though.

>>56562631
>>56562627
hdd w/ ubuntu

Reinstalling it l8or

Thank you guys <3

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Sickest T420 in the game checking in

Every meme fallen for

>>56563943
obey? what a fag

>>56563310
>>56563375
I sold a T430 that I got free from work about a year ago for $350, which seemed tk be the trending price. Even if it was one of the 1366x768 models, I really regret doing that because now my T400 is starting to act up and likely needs a few hundred bucks worth of repairs.

Anyways, point being that if $350 was the going rate a year ago, then $380 is way too much today. Where are you buying from?

>>56563943
Wallpaper please?

>>56563943
elementary os? What a cuck.

>>56561536
tpg.com.au

how to see if my battery is original? i bought 44++ for X230, original Lenovo box with tape and all, but when at numbers on battery and box cant find anything like common serial number.

>>56563132
>kernel panic
This stuff is real?

Which one should I chose? All same price of 210$
>HP6470b
CPU i7-3520
1600 X 900
16 GB DDR3
240GB SSD
>T430
i7 3520
1600x900
8 gigs of ram
500GB hdd
NVS 5400 graphics
>t420
i7-2640
1600*900
16 gigs of ram
512GB SSD
quadro 4200

>>56564113
I've checked a bunch of local shops that mass buy used devices in western Europe and re-sell them here in my shithole of a country, bretty hard to find one to buy off hands and it won't have any warranty

I have an x200 with xubuntu, and I can't seem to update opengl above 2.1
Is that really the maximum the gpu supports or am I just retarded

>>56564113
>>56565333
in the US i bought my t430 with 8gb and ssd for $210

its 1366x768, but i don't care. the seller is a refurber, so the palmrest/touchpad, keyboard, were in nice and new condition

it looks like a new machine, there are only scratches on the front faceplate, but you can't tell unless held at an angle against light because of the dark matte finish

W520 i7 qm with a faulty quadro 2000m
Yes or no and fromw what price is it a yes?

is windows XP a good alternative to win 7 for speed on an x61?
dont want to do linux

>>56565620
no

>>56565648
what is a good slim speedy OS for a slow laptop
[spoiler]linux?[/spoiler]

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Should my X201 with an i5-540M be struggling to emulate gba games? I get that some N64 games are choppy, but I've tried 3 different linux gba emulators and two google chrome emulator extension things and they all lag with choppy sound. I'm tempted to try a windows emulator through Wine, or even use a spare hard drive and install windows 7 or something and try a windows emulator natively

It must be able to emulate gba games properly, surely, so where am I going wrong?

>>56565665
after being on /g/ since 2013, i've learned its not worth it to fall for the OS memes

there is no reason whatsoever to use anything besides Ubuntu, everything else is just difficult for the sake of being difficult. desu, it isn't even that its difficult, but you have to do things yourself. what is the point of installing your gpu drivers and editing the xconf manually when ubuntu just works.

anyways, my experiences with things like Lubuntu and other derivatives of Ubuntu have had ridiculously fucking insane issues that the parent distro did not.

just install ubuntu, and install a lighter unity theme if you need to.
if that doesn't work, get lubuntu/xubuntu

>>56565457
Must be great to live in a civilized country, I guess

Just bought a x220 for $160. I do OK?

>>56565875
the US is meh

could be worse, but its certainly not terrible

Just got a used X200 in great condition for 100 EUR. Only thing that bothers me is the sticker on the back. What can i use / should avoid to remove it?

>>56561536
Got a friend who's going to uni wants a laptop for "word and facebook".

What's the cheapest thinkpad I can recommend to him that isn't total shit?

Decent battery life would be a plus.

>>56566005
X220

Got 9-12 hours of the juice

>>56562087
X201

>>56566005
x201 is still quite decent
x220 if you got a few more bucks to spare

>>56566055
>>56566066
Cheers senpai.

>>56566005
X201

Hey /tpg/, need a laptop suggestion.
Budget: ~$600
Will be installing GNU/Linux on it.
I'll be using it for some gaming and college work. Dota 2, Minecraft. CS:GO should work good.
It should be portable too.
I'll be buying retail. Probably from newegg or similar.
Thanks (sorry for the bad post. I only lurk).

Which model should I get for old (pre-2004) games?

>>56566336
an Edge

>>56566338
my x220 works fine for older games
quite a lot post-2010 titles work quite smooth after turning the graphics to minimum

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Anyone know if there's a way to get the T410 keyboard onto a T400? The T410's keyboard looks way better than the T400's.

>>56566504
not possible

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I'm buying an E460. Please tell me it isn't so bad.

>>56566550
why?
not going to tell you it isn't so bad

>>56564948
boyos? Which one is the best?

>>56566550
>E-series
T or X. Everything else is just a totally overpriced laptop with nothing special.

>>56566550
edge is garbage
>t. owned E540

>>56566550

It's not a real thinkpad, but it's a very good laptop.

>>56566564
>>56566627
>>56566635
Apart from the build quality which is still pretty decent, what's so bad about the E series?

>>56566661
E540 fag here.
battery was weak, mediocore screen, terrible build quality especially hinges

>>56566661
it's literally just a chink budget laptop, there's no good reason to buy one

>edge
If you want an amazing(ly shit) laptop you should get an IdeaPad 300.

>>56564948
>>56566591
>HP6470b
No nipple mouse, dropped
>T430
Best if you want to spend some extra dough for a SSD
>t420
Best if $210 is all you are going to be spending on this

>>56565543
>faulty quadro
stay away, likely has other issues as well

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I'm tempted to buy this w520 for €450 (~$500)
> Intel Quad Core i7-2670QM
> NVIDIA Quadro 1000M
> 4GB DDR3 RAM
> 320GB 7200rpm 2.5" SATA HDD
> 1600x900

It would be my main machine while at uni (like some kind of desktop replacement).
I would mostly use it for uni related work (programming and whatnot), high definition chineese cartoons and some gayming.

Is it worth the money?

>>56565457
Yeah I let a bit too much of the /g/ autism get into my head, because really, a 4-year-old machine that functions perfectly fine but has a shitty screen is still preferable to an 8-year-old machine with a dead fan, dying SSD and dying monitor.

>>56566338
Basically anything from the T60 onwards is good, although you will want to get dedicated graphics cards with Core2Duo models.

>>56566550
I had an E520 at my first internship, and aside from the awful screen it was not that bad a laptop. It just wasn't as well built as you would normally expect from a Thinkpad.

>>56566909
>1600x900

Why would you get a W520 without the 1080p screen? Absolutely pointless, that's its main selling point. Just get a T520 and save yourself a few hundred Euros.

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>>56566909
I wouldnt personally

>>56566816
Fuark, now that you say it 6470b doesn't have a nipple indeed. And I was almost set on it. Replacement keyboard with nipple costs 15$.

If I were to spend it on keyboard or on SSD for a t430, there's also Dell e6430 for 230$.
It has true quad core i7-3470qm, 8 gigs of ram, 256 SSD, 1600x900 screen and quadro 5200. Would that be a better choice than HP with upgraded keyboard or T430 with SSD?

Do all T420 have esata port regardless of graphics options?
Are there 1600x900 models with integrated graphics only?

>>56565709
What OS/ how much RAM? Are you doing anything else on the computer?

>>56566504
What do the buttons above the left and right arrow key mean?

>>56567374
They mean lurk more and fuck off newfag.

>>56567386
I have a fucking x201. Never could bother to figure out what they did

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Who /comfy/ with their T420?

>>56567374
Page back - Page Forward

>>56567421
Perhaps try pressing them.

>>56567443
>>56567469
So just alternatives to page up and page down? Sounds comfy

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>>56567439
>pacman

>>56566411
>>56567025
So would an x200 be okay for that then?

>>56567498
No. Previous webpage, index up in file manager

>>56567498
I think they're like the back and foward keys on mouse.

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What do u think ^^ about that my friends?

Intel Core i5 - 5300U 2,3 ghz.
8000mb DDR3 1600 mhz
500 gb hdd SATA3 + slot m.2 SSD.
Intel HD 5500.
14" Matte.
Wifi AC + Bluetooth 4.0
GSM sim.
3x USB 3.0
mini DisplayPort y VGA.

I'm planning to use it to take every day to college, PLC Programming, Office, Internet etc ..

>>56567568
You should get a max book air TM retina display TM from apple TM

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>>56567439
Super /comfy/
>>56567513
You're not easily impressed. What is the best package manager?

>>56567629
Why

>>56567568
I have this model

it's fine, replace the hdd with an ssd when you can :)

>>56567568

Looks fine. What are you spending on it? If all you're doing is classwork, programming at a college level, and office/internet, you could definitely go with something less powerful (X220, T420 with an SSD would be perfect).

What is a good cheap Thinkpad with 10+hrs of juice?

>>56567568
Gross. What the fuck has Lenovo been doing the last few years?

Thanks for your replies.

>>56567799
>>56567687
>>56567656
450€
I'm watching different models in ebay and found another more interesting. My budget it's around 700-800 €, although not neccesary spend it all

Lenovo thinkpad T450
i7-5600U 2.6GHZ / 3.2GHZ BOOST
i7 vPro
16GB RAM
256GB SSD HARD DRIVE
HD+ 1600x900 Resolution
BACKLIT KEYBOARD
FINGERPRINT READER
14"
Warranty MAY 2018

>>56567781
x230 / x220 (which is kinda obsolete)

>>56567850
>HD+ 1600x900 Resolution

why

>>56565916

Dem prices, though. That same T430 would probably be €400 where I live.

>>56567850
an i5 model with better display (1080 ips) would be much more enjoyable to use

>>56567542
It would be a bit slow considering it has a core2 duo. The 2nd Gen i5 is much much faster for not a large increase in price

>>56567633
Yours and YaST

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Anyone got a full retard-oriented guide for building and flashing Coreboot?
picrandom

>>56568509
Ah, the target model is X200.

Is there any purpose for putting core boot on an x201?

>>56568534
Whitelist removal and damn fast boot.

i bought a HD+ video cable for my t430, but i can't seem to find any 1600x900 panels or 1080 panels that are NOT glossy

i know you guys recommend m14x alienware panels as well, but those all seem to be glossy too

1366x768 isn't the end of the world for me, i can deal with it. i would like to pimp my thinkpad out though, seeing as the rest of the components are decent quality.

any suggestions?

>>56568600
X1 Carbon panel.

Even better than the Ayylienware one.

Not glossy.

>>56563174
go for t460s

Anyone running coreboot+seabios with win7? Maybe even on a t420? I want to try it myself but i'm having doubts if it's useful for daily driving.

>>56566504
because of the mic mute button they're not electrically compatible

>>56566909
Yes and no.
Worth the money for the performance, yes.
But you will most likely get tired of dragging it around due to it's weight and size. It ain't exactly a 'I'll just sit here browsing with the machine in my lap being comfy as fuck' sized machine.
t. 8560W owner looking for an x22/30 for comfytiem and daily carry.

E7450
>i5-5300U
>DDR3 RAM
>128GB SSD
>GeForce 840M graphics

E7470
>i5-6300U
>DDR4 RAM
>256GB SSD
>integrated graphics
>100€ more

What's the better choice? Is Skylel and DDR4 worth the extra 100€?

Just got a t420 and it flexes on the right side of the keyboard, is there a fix?

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>>56569514
>Dell

>>56569556
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).

Are you ok?

>>56563174
Had it and ended up reselling it, there were too many little build quality defects and my inner autismo couldn't handle it

It was not bad, but considering the praise Thinkpads get i guess I was expecting a bit more

>>56569548
yeah, take the palmrest off (you have to remove the keyboard to do this anyways), then put it all back together

it could be a loose or missing screw somewhere and you just don't know it since there is so many of them, even one inside where the bottom ram stick is

you could also put new paste onto your cpu while you're at it, if you are going to take it apart

>>56565875
I'm US and want to move to EU
What do?

>>56569871
are you trolling?

try moving to a nicer part of the US, i used to think like you but moving away completely changed my perspective

what state are you in?

the midwest and northwest US is nice and quiet

>>56567317
Mint 18 xfce 64bit
4GB of ram, of which 1 - 1.5 is in use
Doing nothing else

I don't get how well some fully 3d older games can run on this, and n64 emulation being ok, but I can't play any gba games which is what I want to play the most

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>>56570331
Ugly because I haven't riced

I've tried VBA, VBA-M and higan. The game I'm trying to play is metroid zero mission

>>56569949
Thinking Spain, I think I can do something there. But legal problems make me want to leave US
Am in Florida

just got my t420s

maybe i should have gone with a x220 desu

>>56569696
Thanks, it was a loose screw, loving the rugged feel of this laptop

>>56571050
You had a loose screw?

>>56569514
The 7450 has 2 DIMM slots while the 7470 has only one(and no soldered memory so you'll never have dual channel like the T460s).
And dGPUs only work well with windows.

Do you guys have any recommended websites to look for used ThinkPads ?

Or should I just browse eBay/Priceminister/whatever ?

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Has anyone removed the keys from a t420 keyboard to clean underneath? All my keys are functionally perfectly, but I can see a fuckton of hairs underneath the keys

>>56571223
Craigslist amd Kijiji. Ebay if you know what you want and want to cut down the searching process.

>>56571379
Both are America only apparently

>>56571198
Did you mean it the other way around? Im pretty sure the E7470 has two slots, even the manual confirms that

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Apparently there are 3 different kind of keyboards for the X/T series.

Is it worth getting them and keeping them as spare parts? Will they be genuine or copies?

I like keys with strong springiness. How do I ensure I don't get a lemon.

>>56571409
oops, my mistake.
Seems the only laptop with 1 slot is the thinkpad.

Are any x230 tablet parts cross-compatible with an x220 tablet? it looks like the chassis is very similar, and the tablet version of the 30 retains the full displayport, so from what i'm seeing, there might be some cross compatibility. i'm hoping to possibly replace my x220 i7 mainboard with the x230 i7.

>>56571402
Canada too.

>>56571309
i've tried removing keys on the x220 and ive snapped it . it's ridiculously easy to snap one of the hinges. the scissor construction when you remove or replace them. just remove the keyboard and then rinse it and dry it overnight. make sure it's dry, then reinstall it the next morning. if that doesn't remove everything, try canned air.

anyone know a good replacement battery for an x200t?
mine lasts for about an hour

I wish I was able use this back in its prime..

https://youtu.be/XIJWfXfGI4o

Think any GNU/Linux distros would run well on it?

>>56572279
Thanks. I'll try my 100psi air compressor instead then

I'm divided between buying a t420 and an x220, does anyone recommend one over the other?

>>56571309
I've found this. Maybe it helps: https://youtu.be/EU-iMa4WbZw

>>56572803
T420 if you need 3 drives or optical on the go
X220 if you need portability. I'm biased on this one becauese I own two, they are fucking great to carry around and they have excellent battery life.

>>56572641
yea dont rinse ur your keyboard lmao

What are some common problems with worn thinkpads?
And what are some in the T400 series in specific.

>>56572803
I'd go with the t420 with a 1600x900 screen because it's a LOT more real estate than on the x220

How do you clean/disinfect your thinkpad when it arrives?

>>56572803
X220 is the only option for an IPS screen. If you love your eyes, get it.

i just had a great idea

save my games, anime, and porn on an external hdd that i leave at home, and everything work related save on my laptop hard drive

yet another use for the docking station

>>56573293
throw it in the dishwasher, make sure it's dried thoroughly before turning it on though

>>56573297
>>56573273
>>56572803
Get a T430, I always post this every time

yes, the 2nd gen i5 performs well, but the integrated intel hd 4000 in the 3rd gen was a huge improvement over the hd 3000 found in the 2nd gen

you won't regret it, i promise. the chiclet keys themselves aren't even that bad in the t430/x230 either, its the layout that sucks.

but if the typing experience is more important to you, get the t420/x220

>>56573293
Isopropyl alcohol, Lots of it.
And a brush(Not toothbrush) with some canned air.

Give the keyboard a good cleaning since you will be using it.
Also the filters since they are probably dusty.
And repaste it if you want.

>>56573293
I usually rub some hand sanitizer on my hands, then rub down the keyboard/trackpad/palmrest area
just make sure you don't let any seep in
I'll also rub some hand sanitizer on the lid to clean off any sticker residue
>>56573381
I'd also suggest going with the t430
it's like 30 dollars more to get one nowadays, and you get used to the keyboard layout fast.
also I really like how the keyboard nipple is sunken in.

>>56573386
What kinda brush?
Isopropyl alcohol should evaporate fairly quickly, right?

>>56573470
Yes but is to clean internals from dust, dead skin stuck inside and stuck in the keyboard, not the motherboard remember.
Maybe to clean the HSF.

does /tpg/ use linux or windows?
http://www.strawpoll.me/11213924

>>56573758
>implying

>>56573758
>use three thinkpads regularly, each with a different OS configuration
>can only pick one answer
o-oh

>>56573919
dammit famalam i was even trying to be inclusive by having a dual boot option

>>56573758
Aside from my main T420 running linux, I have a T420 with windows for light gaming but I don't really use it much. Thinking of getting it a second SSD and using it to mess around with various distros now.

>>56573932
i thought ssd's were a meme

>>56573758
I use PureDarwin fuck you

>>56573950
>not using GNU-Darwin

>>56573949
The best of memes

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i just swapped my t430's panel with a panel from a m14x 22 and the viewing angles are so much better. i dislike that its glossy but oh well.

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>>56574321

>>56562092
Ah, just saw this. Thanks for replying anon, that last part about how the bios handles it is good to hear since I thought there were signal/power conflicts on every boot regardless of whether the egpu had been left plugged in or not. Thats how im going to use it so its all fine then.

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How well do eGPUs work with Thunderbolt 3 on ThinkPads?

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Any eGPU guys in here mind sharing some FPS benchmarks for vidya? Thanks in advance.

>>56574348
Oh my God I'm >>56574504
I didn't see your post at all so sorry.

>>56574321
Wow! How much was it? Would this work in a T420?

>>56574528
$45 for the panel. it should work on a t420

Hi. I asked last thread about the heat output and 100℅ CPU usage of my x100e. I was told to put new thermal paste on the CPU and such, so I did that. Thing is...nothing changed. Everywhere I look has a different fix and I've tried all of them but the damn thing keeps staying ridiculously hot and the CPU usage is constantly at 100℅. I'm at my wit's end. Please help. :-(

>>56573381
I agree with you on the '30 series for all the reasons you said. And it's trivial to outfit it with a '20 series keyboard and batteries if that's your bag.

t. IPS x230 w/classic kbd swap owner

installed linux mint on a x220, the fan seems quite loud compared to windows. what do?

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Dear /tpg/

Is this a chink battery? Will it set my house in fire?
Seller says it's a 9 cell for ~$32

>>56566336
ThinkPad 13 is around $700.

>>56566336
doesn't sound like a thinkpad is what you want

>>56575697
>9 cell for $32
Yes.
>Made in china

>>56569556
I have a dell precision m4600 and it is far better than any Thinkpad that I have used, and I have owned an x201, x220, t400, x61t, t420, t460, and w520.
I have a feeling you're speaking out of your ass

where do I get a 9 cell battery for my t420 that won't explode?

>>56576455
lenovo.com

you can't take a risk on ebay, i bought a "brand new sealed" t420 battery that came in an original Lenovo box that was taped shut and had a chink battery inside

is this a good deal?
http://dallas.craigslist.org/mdf/sys/5772728500.html

>>56576833
For that price, I would suggest a workstation-grade laptop from a little earlier.
The t440 has a pretty shitty trackpad and keyboard. It feels very flimsy compared to previous models.
That is a pretty good deal though, and you should take it if you feel like that is the laptop for you.

Whats the best way to get new thinkclits? Mines getting all oily and smooth.

>>56576455
I used Amazon. Be prepared to pay a lot.

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I got an x200 with a P8600 cpu and it's ultrabase for 100 euros, did I fuck up?

>>56563174
T460s if anything. Dunno how they managed it, but the t460 is the worst feeling thinkpad I have laid hands on

>>56573381
>but the integrated intel hd 4000 in the 3rd gen was a huge improvement over the hd 3000
It's still pretty bad. I don't think it matters that much. Even old desktop GT 450 is trice as powerful. So if you want to game, don't count on HD 4000.

>>56573293
I lick it clean from the cumstains.

>>56574724
Where did you buy it?

when i plug in the AC adapter in my X230, none of the leds turn on, i in thinkpad light doesnt blink, basically zero reaction, no matter if battery is plugged in or not, dead adapter?

Where can I get new batteries for the T400/X200? I don't want some chink shit.

>>56578649
Subtel has nice batteries and a good waranty

>get a T420

I"m shit broke and got a T400.
How fucked am I? Should I return it, save more, and eventually get a T420?

>>56561796
How the hell do y'all luck out like that?

>>56576912
The red detachable part? Prolly wrong, but I think pckeyboards.com sells ThinkPad (compatible) clitslips.

>>56573919
>>use three thinkpads regularly, each with a different OS configuration

Which three? Mac OS X doesn't happen to work on ThinkPads, does it?

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>>56561536
I'll be getting a Thinkpad R60e this wednesday, what should I install into it?

>>56561940
Not among the "classic" ThinkPads in the guide. Idk about the newer ones

>>56579332
Please?
This is your guys' one bit of power over my life, don't waste it!
(Plus I'm stupid and can't make my own decisions.)

>>56579268
>Subtel has nice batteries and a good waranty
Only available in germany?

>>56579421
T400 is good enough for most things and has 16:10 instead of 16:9, keep it.

>>56579451
Y-you sure? That's a ton off my mind.

I only need it for two-year community college and compiling C programs (yeah, wasted degree and dead language, pls no bully).

Even worse, I'm an anime faggot; thus, have any word on Hi10P video decoding performance with it?

Thank you.

>>56568600
I eventually bought mine on aliexpress after being scammed on ebay
Matte 1080p IPS panel
When I get home I can check the model name for you

>>56579550
No. The T400 is fit for any job you just described. It might take you a minute longer compiling, but that's worth the difference in price imo.
You're also able to install libreboot on a T400, so that's a big plus too (I'd do that after college though, no need for a bricked laptop during college)

>go to university department that I don't use to frequent much anymore
>take my x230 to university as usual
>developing a project for the company I work for
>out of nowhere a guy appears and asks if what I was using was a T420 or something
>"It's a X230, it's great"
>says he bought a used elitebook and goes on and on about used business laptops and how they're so good
>I just want to work, ffs
>he goes away after a while
>a fucking idiot appears with a T40 under his arm
>says something along the lines of "that's a nice little workhorse you got there anon, thinkpads 4lyfe"
>goes away, I don't even say anything, I just want to fucking work

You guys are spreading. Next time, if you see someone working, leave them be instead of being autists about business laptops, please.

>>56579607
>with a T40
With a T420, missed the "2".

>>56579440
Most of Europe I think, don't know about USA though

>>56579607
They weren't from /g/ I'm sure because I would've mocked you for the shitty keyboard.

>>56579628
I'm sure you never used the keyboard in the xx30 series.
Autism regarding the layout aside (I actually prefer the old layout), the keys on the xx30 series keyboards feel much better.

>>56579646
You're right, I never used the xx30 series. But I did use the T440 and T450 and they both didn't feel like a ThinkPad. I think it's a combination of autism and preference.

>>56579680
Those feel worse than the xx30 series keyboard desu. Especially the onesin the Carbon line.
I don't know about the new ones in the xx60 series though.

The 40 and 50 lines were a mistake.

>>56579607
>implying we wouldn't laugh at your chiclet manlet keyboard
anon, I have bad news for you. The people you encountered are not from /g/

>>56579751
>manlet
What?

I know this is a thinkpad thread but are MacBook pros better?

>>56579812
Nah, keyboard is shit and the prices are stupidly high for used ones

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>>56579607
"please, bother me thinkpad autists"

what can i do with that Qualcomm Gobi 3K 14.4Mbps/HSPA? surprisingly my new x230 has it even though it wasnt specified at the site where i bought it.

>>56579899
>meme-colored hair fat feminist nigger
>cute

>>56579599
>No. The T400 is fit for any job you just described.
I've never been an impatient compiler any, heh.

>Libreboot
I knew about coreboot, but not that a variant would used /w a T400. That seals the deal, then.

Thanks for all the help anon/anons.

What kind of key caps does the T520 use?

I want to change my German stickered one to UK symbols.

i would like the smallest laptop possible that is able to use microsoft word and has a decent keyboard enough for sustained periods of typing

any ideas

>>56580438
If smallest is really so important, then please elaborate on this need, as much as possible:
>microsoft word

>>56580438
Clearly the HP Spectre is what you are looking for. Took me two minutes to google.

Now fuck off, since we have answered this.

Let's answer this >>56580272

>>56580470
>>56580481
yes something like that, but a lot cheaper

what about the ASUS T100TAF

What should I use, W7 or W8.1?
I heard W8.1 is supposed to be lightier than W7, and that it can be used like W7 (start menu and such).
Also that W8.1 is supposed to have better performance overall, in games mostly.
Can you please help me?

>>56580686
>lightier
>Doesn't know that Win7 was the last good Win
gtfo

>>56580704
>good Win
gtfo

Where do I find A grade refurbished thinkpad in the US? 2009 Toshiba finally died and I'm ready to step up. Will pay well for quality.

Bought a T420 and can't get it to BOOT from USB. Selecting USB in boot menu just reloads the screen and nothing happens. No secure boot option in boot setup. USB boots on desktop though.

>>56580826
So edgy. As if you've never used windows in your computer.

>>56563943
>obey
>over the webcam
Please tell me this is temporary

>>56564449
Third party batteries don't work on Ivy Bridge thinkpads and later,,, so you should be good.

>>56564948
I recommend an 8470p, because the ProBook is essentially an L Series thinkpad with maybe a better GPU.

>>56565543
If I really wanted it, I'd find out what that processor is worth and then just add $50 and offer that to the seller.
Its hard to say because you may be able to get a working W520, W530, 8570p, for under $300.
A bit anecdotal because I'm going off what I got, but eh, could always get a mint 8760w from Arrow Direct for $270.

>>56565885
Thumbs up buddy! Good job.

>>56569514
Eh... I feel you are overspending but I personally would buy the E7470 for better battery life.
The E7450 may have a better GPU but given how light it is, I doubt that thing will have a good heatsink for proper graphical work.

Who else fell for the thinkpad x1 carbon meme?
>button was lose
>luckily have 3 year on site warranty repair
>guy comes to replace my keyboard
>fucks up the mainboard
>no more display
>need to wait 1 week because muh spare parts

fucking lenovo customer support

>>56574321
Thanks, I never looked up what the viewing angles were, I'll update the dankpads site soon :P

>>56580704
If I'm asking, is because I don't know it, shitlord.

Just bought X220 i5-2,5GHz 4GB 320GB for 170€. Did I fucked up?

>>56580898
Ebay, Amazon, Newegg, etc. But A quality is virtually nonexistent. Expect to buy a B and do some work to fix it up.

>>56578363
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-OEM-Alienware-M14x-R2-1600x900-900p-LCD-Screen-P-N-3NPR6-LG-LP140WD2-/221779627278?hash=item33a3188d0e:g:vs4AAOSwKrhVXqxF

>>56580980
>Got the answer
>Disses the poster that answers his question
You're gonna get far in life, kid.

>>56581012
And I appreciate the knowledge, but not the shitlord manners.
Also,
>kid
You sure are mentally challenged.

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>>56579402
Zorin

Should of gotten a Z61 :P

>>56579607
>implying they are from /g/

I should get a /g/ sticker and slap it on my Pixel.
Actually I should make my pixel pretty autistic...

>>56580494
How about getting a chromebook and fuck off completely.
This is for /tpg/ go to /csg/ if you want to buy a POS Asus.

>>56580958
And to think I've yet to have that problem and I'm not Lenovo Certified.
Good thing you got dat warranty.

>>56581036
>whines that they are not a shitlord
>too pussy to call the person retarded
I'd say /tpg/ is having a good morning.

>>56581185
Just bored yo.

>>56575697

I have that one. No heat or weird shit for now. I get 4-6h depending of use.

But i have a doubt, when the battery is charged, and you are connected to AC, is the battery shaped light supposed to be still on?

I'm interested in knowing more about this chink battery tho.

can you replace the battery on an x1 carbon. Thinking about getting a 2nd hand one from Ebay

>>56574321
Do you have any source on the swapping or can you describe it? There's a LTN140KT05-D01 panel available where I live and I'm wondering if I should swap this horrible t430 screen.

>>56580914
I use windows exclusively desu senpai

Got an offer on a X220...
i5 2520m
4 gb ram
500 gb hdd
for 197 USD // 175 EUR (Euro prices)
Seller says battery ~2hrs so need to get a new one + upgrade RAM + get an SSD which would bump price after upgrading it to a total of around $330 // €295.
I know saucy says ~$270 for fully upgraded in US prices though...
Yes or no? (Convince me to get it as I want a new toy)

>>56580927
>I recommend an 8470p
There's no 8470p there, sadly. Out of these 3 which one would you recommend? Also please read my further post about Dell. I don't really want to increase budget for that unless qm really makes that much of a difference.

>>56581011
>LP148WD2
>google that shit
>seems like it's a screen from 8470p
>check notebookcheck for 8460p screen quality
>"it's mediocre"
wut?

>>56581620
I meant 8460p

>>56563943
Pads? Chinked.
Memes? Fallen for.
Mouth fedora? Juiced.

hep me decide

P50s $783
i5 3 ghz
15.6 IPS Full HD
8GB DDR3

or

T560 $783
i5 3ghz
15.6 IPS Full HD
8GB DDR3


seems like they look identical except for the frame. btw i want to get a nice laptop and dont have time to fiddle with it. is it alright to pay this amount or i am getting ripped of?

>>56581725
P50s is a workstation so its probably has significantly worse battery life (CPU that draws more power), its generally suited only for occasional moving, its designed to sit in one place.

T460 is a laptop with normal portability.

>>56581953
thanks, its the t560 tho, also am i getting ripped off ? are there ways to get much cheaper with those specs?

Where do people get those dank stickers?

>>56582033
i dont know.
you should just go with what you like more. p50s is slightly sturdier and noticeably heavier, probably has better gpu (you havent listed them). t560 is more or less normal universal laptop.

>>56582404

stickermule.com
redbubble.com

>>56580898
>premium quality
https://shop.libiquity.com/product/taurinus-x200
Libre X200 with all the fixings. Mint condition refurbs completely cleaned and with upgraded (libre) wifi. There is literally no better way to spend too much money than this.

>>56582814
Oh god this shit again.

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my new X230 has a small black border around the screen. its like inactive part of the screen itself, not the plastic cover (refer to picture).
in other words, displayed image is not directly near the plastic part.
is that how its supposed to be?

>>56583153
Yes.

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>>56582814
>90 dollar difference between 2GB and 8GB of RAM
>8 dollars for 3 libreboot stickers
>CPU Specification just says '2.26GHz - 2.66GHz' instead of if you're getting the P8400, P8600, P8700 or P8800
>Bluetooth says (some models)
>Variable weight despite photos only showing 6cell battery
>No 9cell battery
>Actually calling the X200 a 'subnotebook'
>covering the 'lenovo X200' on the bottom right of the screen with 'Libiquity Taurinus X200' in that godawful font
>covering the windows/super key with a Taurinus logo

>generally talking about specs and build quality while always referring to the laptop as the 'Taurinus X200' as if all X200 models don't have the same ports and chassis

>That entire page
>That entire website's look

Dude what is that thing?

>>56583153
That's normal.

>>56583210
>>covering the windows/super key with a Taurinus logo
get out

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>>56583247
I'd accept the key being removed of its original print and then maybe some laser printing, but it's just a round sticker slapped on top, it's gonna peel off, and the key won't have a flat surface anymore

>>56583283
a sticker is kind of tacky, but that's not the issue

>>56583210
They like to think that they made it instead of lenovo.

I bet that they just wait until someone buys one and then go on ebay to get one to mod.

>>56583291
What is the issue, friend?

>>56583178
kinda breaks my immersion. but ill live with it.

anyway thanks for replying to my shitposts countless times, im the fag from PL who sold his E540 to buy an X230. its been a bumpy road with problems from both DHL and seller like laptop arriving in shit condition (screen white spots, top part of screen cover loose), they actually replaced it all (very good condition top cover, much better palmrest upgraded to one with fingerprint reader and brand new IPS screen) now the only thing left is the adapter which doesnt seem to work, i plug it in and nothing happens, cant start it without battery as well, seller sent me a working one ill get it tomorrow. hopefully its not something like fucked motherboard or the power connector.

used it a little today since my new genuine battery had something like 20% (it lasts for fucking two hours, woah, my E540 did two hours on full charge), it feels real nice.

E540 just cant compare quality wise. Woah, my mind is blown, really made me think etc.
So far im happy with it, hopefully it wont give me problems later on.

I only have two questions now:
1. should the fingerprint reader blink when laptop is inactive? its not hibernated, turned cold off but it blinks with green led from time to time
2. how is the Gobi 3k? should i get some SIM card with low transfer limit for when i have no wifi

And thanks again of course, this general is really helpful and non-cancer.

>>56583210
>Dude what is that thing?
Libre gone horribly wrong.

>>56583308
What you're refering to as a Taurinus logo, is in fact, the GNU gnu

>>56568521
>>56568509

https://libreboot.org/docs/install/x200_external.html

I'll be doing that, better soon than later. Will post as I go, maybe

>>56570478

Spain. I'm there.

Depending on where you live, you balance job, and weather. The souther, the better weather, but you may end up working as a shopkeeper at "Confecciones Marisa", as your best/only option.

Good luck Anon.

>>56583333
Quads confirm, libre is shit.

Hey memeboys, how long batterylife do you have on your t420s's?
I get about 1.5 hrs just browsing the net, will a new battery give me more?

>>56583439
4 hours of watching netflix on full brightness with a new 9 cell. Yes it will. I would get 3 or so out of my newish 6 cell when web browsing.

>>56583469
Alright, thanks man.

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Guess what arrived today

>>56583937
that dresser?

Can someone recommend me a replacement nub? Mine is worn out from overuse.

>>56583937
The floor tiles?

what are some essential tweaks (windows 7) with thinkpads (X220, X230, T430 etc), like battery settings in thinkvantage?

>>56583937
me inside ur mom

>>56584278
Most essential tweak for a Thinkpad running Windows is to install Linux.

To try and answer your qustion sadly I doubt there is much you can do other than what is listed in Thinkvantage and Windows power manager... Windows somewhat limited that way but luckily it also works kindda well.

>>56584330
>linux
>Managing long battery life

I use Linux and I know that Linux battery and power management is abysmal compared with windows.

I just got my T460 and want to put some stickers on the lid. Can anyone post their lids w/ stickers for inspiration?

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>>56584538
:3

>>56576963
That's how much I paid for my "better" x201

>>56584561
Thanks but I can't be sticking all those dank memes on my TP I will be using it in public :-p

>>56581004
B quality is good enough for non-autists to use

>>56584538
are you retarded?

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>>56584680

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Outlet p50 arrived last week, $1300 for 4x more RAM than advertised and the pleasant surprise of a backlit keyboard that I will never use.
I was very apprehensive/pessimistic regarding Windows 10, and within 10 minutes my fears were...solidified. I had hoped that I could downgrade to Windows 7 (OS I've been running since the day it replaced Vista) if I was dissatisfied, and I haven't found any ezmode way to procure a copy through the downgrade rights (from microsoft website)
>If you acquired a device from a manufacturer or installer with a Professional version of Windows preinstalled on it, you may use either a Windows 8.1 Pro or Windows 7 Professional version
Do I need to outright buy a new copy of 7 in order to run it on my new fapmachine? If so I'll just continue fucking with programs like Classic Shell until I get something I can live with.
On another note, I'm having a problem where occasionally the (wireless) network will just drop out. It's not an issue on the router's end, my phone continues to play spotify seamlessly/run games that require constant connectivity. But if I just turn the wifi off and then on on the thinkpad, it resumes like it was just taking a nap like a lazy mexican. I've already went into device manager and disabled the power option that allows the pc to put the network adapter to sleep, but the problem still pops up from time to time. Halp?

>>56584694
>64GB
Oh my.

>>56573109
>T420 if you need 3 drives
How'd you manage to fit 3 in it?

>>56585074
1 in drive bay.
1 mSATA drive in miniPCI-e
1 in optical drive bay with caddy/adapter