>OLED >20 hours of use time >0.5 inch thick >This

hahahaha jesus christ you guys love your nonfunctional shit.

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>>56555495
A modern one of these would be better but damn would I love a modern Vaio P.

>>56555504
>>>/v/

>>56555518
No, he's right. These are nonfunctional, why did you think they didn't sell well?

>>56555538
Just because you can't find a use for one doesn't make them useless, you fucking moron.

>>56555495
It is gone because you can buy a 12 hr tablet and a $10 Bluetooth keyboard.

>>56555495
Id settle for just being able to get an OLED monitor for my PC that doesnt cost $1000

>>56555564
Fucking disgusting

>>56555495
Very cool. Need more mousepad-less laptops

>>56555518
That keyboard looks absolutely awful.

>>56555619
I've got one, it's a lot more usable than you'd think. Definitely better than a touchscreen.

>>56555557
>Just because you can't find a use for one doesn't make them useless
that is precisely what the definition of useless is. you might argue that you have a use for them, but i haven't yet heard you try to articulate one. you've just freaked out and gotten all defensive about a screen that's too small with an unusable aspect ratio for any substantial period of time.

if you can describe what you do or how you do it that makes this not useless, that'd be great. but if every excuse you give us causes us to suggest half a dozen better alternatives, then what? will you acknowledge that you were wrong? is there any exit strategy here?

i'm willing to agree to say i was wrong if you can give a defensible use case. is there any scenario where you'll admit you were wrong, or are you just keen on the edgy nonconformist look of this thing?

>>56555647
>you might argue that you have a use for them, but i haven't yet heard you try to articulate one
Web browsing, programming, SSHing into servers, light gaming, shit's nice as fuck. I don't even carry a laptop anymore.

Holy shit did I ever trigger your autism.

>>56555495
2005

>>56555691
>web browsing, programming
these things need more than 5 lines of vertical space. i don't think you know what you're talking about. and the device in the OP *is* a laptop. it's just a crazy form factor.

>>56555780
>these things need more than 5 lines of vertical space. i don't think you know what you're talking about.
Works fine
>and the device in the OP *is* a laptop. it's just a crazy form factor
Yeah I was talking about this >>56555518

>>56555495
These just lost their appeal now that everyone carries around a pocket computer with a Full-HD screen, quad core CPU and 2GB and more RAM.

They are too big to fit inside your pocket. If you are going to carry around a bag you might as well just get a laptop with a bigger screen, keyboard and battery life.

>>56555836
>They are too big to fit inside your pocket
Quit wearing girls' clothing

>>56555538
>why did you think they didn't sell well?
They didn't sell well because they were expensive and niche, not because they were bad at serving that niche.

It's difficult to justify spending >$500 on a device that really shines for something the average consumer/business user does only a few times a year.

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>>56555495

Because they are fucking useless. You aren't going to get any real work done in a tiny 7 inch screen and cramped mini keyboard.

>>56555943
Okay, kid

>>56555942
>typing on a completely flat surface

>>56555943
>>56555647
Ahh, those glorious times when I used to make over a thousand bucks a month thanks to my N900 when I was just 20 years old. Could not have done it without one, a UMPC would have been way better.

Suck it.

>>56555950
several people have pointed out that it's useless, and every excuse you've made up for how useful it seems has been weak.

just admit that it looks neat to you and you want it. this bullshit where you pretend it's for a good reason when it clearly isn't is making you look like a child trying to justify a toy to your parents.

>>56555647
I'd use one just in a terminal. Also, it'd only weigh a bit more than a phone.

>>56555984
oh wow that's a very compelling story. tell me about the important things you did when you were just 20 years old.

>>56555989
You can call it useless all you want, but if I've got uses for it daily, and I do, then that's clearly untrue. You may not have a use for it, but that doesn't mean nobody does. Go be autistic somewhere else.

>>56555836
>everyone carries around a pocket computer with a Full-HD screen, quad core CPU and 2GB and more RAM.
can this "smartphones are just as good as real portables because they have big numbers now" meme end already

I mean, you aren't really wrong for the most part, these UMPCs were mostly used as uni-tasking email checkers and web surfers anyway, but acting like smartphones can totally replace/equal them for everything is ludicrous

they're fundamentally limited due not only to their small size but their shit input methods and application design paradigms, and arguably their general development "culture"

there are a lot of good smartphone applications out there but the experience is just... lacking, task switching is slow, mobile sites suck ass, predictive typing and autocorrect rapes your input while the software keyboard itself steals a lot of screen real estate

>>56555943
but what defines "real work"?
office productivity applications work pretty fine on 7''-10'' displays, web surfing is alright, maybe something like image editing might be lacking, but you could do it

something like the VAIO P's ultra-wide display probably wouldn't be very good for straight up development but a small 4:3/3:2 device could probably get the job done just fine

>>56555996
if you just want a thin client then get a retina macbook or any number of similar devices. screen quality and keyboard quality matter when that's all you're buying, and this is poor on both fronts.

>>56556000
Important? No. Just random ends of criminal shit. These things are useful if you know how and where to use them.

>>56556009
can you name any of those uses?

i've asked several times now. i feel like you're either not understanding me or you're deliberately avoiding answering.

was it browsing the web and writing code? did you not have a response to the fact that browsing the web on such a short screen would be intolerable for more than a few minutes?

smartphones work because web designers make pages reflow for mobile devices. the laptop you're so keen on doesn't do that.

>>56555495
>>56555518
comfy

>>56555989
Not him but I have a genuine use case where it would be great. Our database is ass on mobile devices, we use office very often and a decent file browser would make browsing through the PDFs we use daily a whole lot less painful. All this, of course, needs to be done either out in the field or in a vehicle. A computer ten inches or smaller would be superb and I've often considered getting an old UMPC but the boss man won't cover used stuff.

>>56556031
This is a non existent device, it doesn't have "quality" anything.

>>56556041
tell me more about where to use UMPCs, anonymous.
also, having to ask you all of these questions is really fun. these meaninglessly nebulous claims aren't obnoxious at all.

are you going to tell me that it's too secret for you to tell us about? that would be awesome.

>>56556056
>can you name any of those uses?
he did, and then you moved the goalposts with a dumb subjective comeback

>>56555518

fuck off back to neogaf, fag

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>>56556029
The thing is though that there is only a very small niche for these devices. It looks to me like you less have a real need for them but rather you just find them cool and are looking for excuses to justify needing them.

The Pyra is going to be as good as it gets.

>>56556056
>can you name any of those uses?
>i've asked several times now. i feel like you're either not understanding me or you're deliberately avoiding answering.
I've already answered you, dumbass.
>was it browsing the web and writing code?
Yes
>did you not have a response to the fact that browsing the web on such a short screen would be intolerable for more than a few minutes?
I had one, I said it works for me. I browse for hours on my UMPC's 4.5" screen

>>56556062
Extremely

>>56556088
The fuck are you on about?

>>56556109
>Meets non of the requirements in OP

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>>56556082
I have talked about what I have done in threads before, we had long discussions, I don't really give five fucks what you think, just came here to say my opinion that they have been useful in my life.

Too tired to argue with trolls, not even for fun, work day tomorrow.

>>56556077
why 10 inches or smaller? why does the screen need to be this short?

what kind of bag are you carrying (if any) that makes a 9" laptop with a conventional aspect ratio unsuitable?

you've articulated an actual use case, which is more than i can say for the OP, but i'm simply not seeing where any constraints come into play that necessitate going off the beaten path of a super-light but otherwise standard device like a retina macbook, an x1 carbon, or an HP spectre. these would give you ample screen space to read PDFs, web pages, etc...

>>56556077
Posts like this get ignored because they can't bait on shit like this. Of course they have actual uses and are actually used too.

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It may not be ideal but how about this?

>>56556139
>we had long discussions
that's crazy! i had a conversation with the president of the united states on this very board 2 days ago! you weren't here? he posted proof and everything. you'll just have to believe me. i don't really give four fucks what you think.

>>56556187
cuck :o)

>>56556187
kek, butthurt

>>56556169
posts like his get genuine responses, like the one right above yours, because he's actually engaging and not getting hyper-defensive like a fucking faggot.

he at least gave a concrete, semi-defensible rationale for using a UMPC. i'm still not convinced, but at least we're engaging because he's apparently not terrified of being criticized. and i'm treating him with respect because he's being honest, not over-claiming anything, and being reasonable.

you feel like you're being baited because you're avoiding answering questions and getting butthurt whenever someone points out a flaw in your vague reasoning.

>>56556109
>The thing is though that there is only a very small niche for these devices.
don't disagree, that's why smartphones and tablets killed the market for them

doesn't mean there aren't cases where I'd personally like one though, small devices are nice when you travel, convenient to take wherever

>It looks to me like you less have a real need for them but rather you just find them cool and are looking for excuses to justify needing them.
where am I trying to make excuses??? you can acknowledge that not everything is perfect, new paradigms aren't always better for everything, progress sometimes comes with compromise

I'm not even trying necessarily to shill for UMPCs, I'm pointing out the ignorance and close-mindedness in this statement that people commonly try to use to shut down threads like this

>>56556223
Sorry, but that was my first post in this thread

>>56556077
All which could be done on a tablet.

>>56555518
Is there any reason someone couldn't gut one and hook up the display and keyboard to a RPi or something?

>>56556250
It may be able to be done but I hope nobody's stupid enough to do it.

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>>56556187
it's incredible how fucking defensive and buttblasted people get about UMPCs

like the very idea of someone using one and enjoying it is threatening to them on a physical level, maybe it's one less (You) or cock stroke in their daily smartphone shitposting threads?

>>56556291
This is /g/, what did you hope for? Most people are autistic here.

>>56556185
Which model is this?

>>56556250
Maybe because it would look ugly as fuck and an RPi would be even shittier than what's already in it? At least use a real SBC that wasn't designed and shilled by hipsters who wouldn't know a proper bus from their own asshole.

>>56556185
If the whole thing folded in half and had a battery life of more than 4 hours, and ran linux I'd buy it.

>>56556109
>armshit

Into the trash it goes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRPTQIWnfLw

>>56556356
What's the problem with ARM?

>>56556366
it's limp-dick trash that can't run any software that's like half of the appeal of UMPCs???

>>56556404
>cant run any non-free proprietary botnet software

ftfy

>>56555504
>>56555555
Lel

>>56555495
Is this even good? That nipple and .25 inch thick mouse buttons look uncomfortable as fuck to use. Is it even touchscreen?

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>>56556422
>using an easily trackable/buggable/stealable device for information and jobs where the freedom meme is actually meaningful

>>56556468
freedom != security

>>56555495
Might be OK if the screen was edge to edge, and tweaked to be a 21:9 form factor.

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>>56556501
>using non-free: the architecture while claiming to give a fuck about technology ethics

>>56556317
Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2.

>>56555495
They should make one of these but with a foldable screen, so the whole computer folds in two places, and the screen is twice the size of the keyboard

>>56556159
Because the inside of an already cramped van is a really, really uncomfortable place to use a 13.3" notebook. I've tried, it was unpleasant enough to make me go back to android rather quickly. That being said, a 10" laptop *might* be acceptable but I like the idea of a really small device. With current Intel Atoms not being terrible it should be easier than ever, yet such devices are impossible to come by. A local brick and mortar shop sold a 9" hybrid a while back but by the time I found out, they were sold out with no plans of getting more stock.

To be clear, it's nothing to do with the weight or thickness, it's about the physical footprint and the ease of use in a confined space. I'd happily use a four inch thick, six pound chunk of a device if it was small enough in the other dimensions to allow me to use it in the cabin of my work car, a shitty Opel Combo from ~2012.

>>56556246
I'm sorry, did you miss the bit about mobile devices being ass and office being used? Any hybrid device where the keyboard is not physically attached to the screen is unwieldy.

I use an iPhone 6S Plus for everything. Emails, word processing, PDF form fill outs, taking photos, reading documents, organising myself with the calendar, simple note taking, controlling my home theatre, controlling my automated lighting and security cameras. To say smartphones can't do anything is bullshit. Don't get me wrong though, I had one of those UMPC style computers and it was cool as shit.

>>56556557
https://www.amazon.com/Transformer-T100HA-C4-GR-10-1-Inch-Touchscreen-Quad-Core/dp/B014854RGK/ref=dp_ob_title_ce

>>56556623
>Emails, word processing
That sounds painful. Do you use a flappy Bluetooth keyboard or do you use the on screen one? Sure, you can do all that with a phone but you can also commute thirty miles both ways with a bike. Doesn't mean a sane person would. We call these crazies "iFags" and "green party members" respectively.

>>56556582
>Android devices can't read PDFs
How's 2008?

I think something like a Pixel C or iPad 9.5" make for good inexpensive 'take anywhere' devices.

Mostly leaning towards an iPad Pro personally, simply because pen support is pretty high on my wishlist.

I'm aware the Surface is an option, and it's something i'd seriously consider if they released a core M model in the 10" form factor.

>>56556721
Why not get the Atom version? What will you do with the Surface that you need a Core CPU for?

>>56556623
>fruity kids toy
>good for anything

Good joke.

>>56556629
That could work actually, I just need to find a supplier in my country that will give a receipt that my boss will accept.
>>56556716
I like that you attack something I never said. I know android can read PDFs, I've been doing it for a while now. Trying to keep several dozen PDFs organised and comparing to is still a massive pain in the ass. I often find myself printing them when I have the chance because it's easier to keep several bunches of paper organised than it is to navigate my downloaded files on Android.

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>>56556721
>memePad Pro

>>56556774
>there are no file managers for Android
Is this 2008?

>>56556794
So this is the poor bait the other anon was talking about? You get a 5/10 because I responded to you seriously, once.

>>56556811
Have fun with your shitty hipster device.

>>56556690
I have keyboard shortcuts set up, dictation works well enough. Why would I carry a computer around if I didn't need it?

>>56556185
I have one of these, it's OK. Keyboard is nice, but the battery is shot on the tablet so it's basically a horrible desktop.

>>56555538
>why did you think they didn't sell well?

Processing speed and battery life

Put a modern mobile processor in there and it would be cookin

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Why not this instead?

Dual booting android.

>>56557175
No amount of processing power would make such a shitty form factor functional.

>>56557210
It's a great form factor though.

>>56557204
Woah....

>>56555984

>over a thousand bucks a month

Nigger you're poor

>>56557214
>tiny ass screen where you can see 5 lines of text at most
>tiny ass keyboard too cramped for proper touch typing
>thick as fuck, only fits in the pockets of cargo pants for fat fucks

>>56557302
>tiny ass screen where you can see 5 lines of text at most
Look at OP's photo, there's clearly well over 5 lines of text visible.
>tiny ass keyboard too cramped for proper touch typing
I've touch typed on smaller keyboards. Based on your next point I don't think sausage fingers is an issue so it sounds like you're just looking for reasons to hate it.
>thick as fuck, only fits in the pockets of cargo pants for fat fucks
Original model was ~.75" thick and what OP's talking about would be .5" thick, that's easily pocketable. Hell my original Game Boy's over an inch thick and I can slip it into my jeans pocket. My Vaio UX's also over an inch think and I carry it in my pocket all the time.
>inb4 lolxD ur fat
Last I checked I was underweight.

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>>56555495
>UMPC thread
>nobody posts GPD Win


http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_364503.html?wid=21

>>56557893
Nobody posted it because nobody wants it.

>>56556532
x86?

>>56555495
Try reading something with that shitty screen and aspect ratio.

>>56558366
I don't see why you think it'd be even remotely difficult.

>>56555495
This looks fucking awful

>>56558395
>mfw people brag about being literally blind

it ALWAYS happens. every single thread. you never see people besides fatties point at two story houses and go "enjoy struggling to climb the stairs every day lol"

EVERY THREAD

>>56558366
it's 1600x768 in OP. If it was made now I would be happy with 2250x1080. How fucking blind are you that you can't read a 5" tall display at that resolution?

is it worth installing linux on a netbook

>>56558694
Yes

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I have one of these, and it does p.much everything I need, which is to say not a lot.

If I could figure out how to run OSX on it, I'd be golden, but I make do.

>>56558726
which one and which distro

>>56558858
I like my IdeaPad S10 and any distro works, it's your choice in WMs that really affects performance.

>>56555518
That makes me feel tingly in muh naughty bits...

>>56556109
>THICC
>Not wide enough for real keyboard
>Screen from 2002

>>56556774
I feel you brother. Amaze is apparently a great file manager and there are "great" PDF readers, but fuck my life trying to get anything done on this OS.

>>56557175
>Processing speed and battery life
Precisely, it was useless.

>>56555495
>Where is it?
buried in a sea of cheap consumer shitware

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>>56555495
I'm working on it man, just need to wait for Zen APUs and hit the lottery

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>>56559629
wrong one, I need to update this thing

>>56556139
Not him, what sorts of shennanigans could one get up to with a umpc device? Genuinely interested here.

>>56555495
>teeny tiny screen that will be cluttered to hell with any IDE or half decent text editor

Why is this shit getting spammed so much on /v/ and /g/ this week?

Is this one dedicated autist or an actual shill?

This is useless garbage technology

>>56559865
UMPCs were and always will be the future

Just look at the intel NUC, if someone made a screen/battery case like attachment for it they'd be rich

>>56559865
>waah stop discussing technology on a technology board
Fuck off to your smartphone and GPU threads.

>>56557204
I wanna put my dick in it

>>56559886
>not just slapping a huge battery bank on a cherry trail tablet

tis a shame intel atom is dead

>>56559946
Not the same, the NUC has a near full i7 in it

The PSVITA was a piece of fucking garbage and the worst system I have ever purchased but that OLED screen is beautiful.

I would love something like this.

>>56559886

>future

Kek

No one buys this shit

>>56559908

>$0.05 rupees have been deposited to your account

I look forward to seeing your next 5 threads tomorrow about this obsolete tech

>>56555495
They'd just overprice the shit out of it anyways.

>>56560012

More or less than a gaymen laptop?

>>56560005
>No one buys this shit
No one has ever attempted a modern UMPC on the latest 16/14nm processes, all we have are old devices or shitty Chinese OEM systems that you can't really buy

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>>56555848
Yeah, wear these like a real man.

>>56556187
>Autism

>>56557922
You could not be more wrong

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lol

>>56560049

The product has too much overlap with smartphones and laptops for it to be profitable

>>56560051
No, just regular jeans and not being a hippo will do.

>>56560159
I want a good UMPC as much as anyone here but if you think >>56555518 is going to fit in your pocket and not look totally stupid, you are deluded.

>>56560177
I have >>56555518 and carry it in my pocket daily. Also the thread's about a modern Vaio P. Even the original is more pocketable than the UX series and OP's hypothetical model is about 2/3 the thickness.

>>56560127
So it could build in smartphone abilities as well, look at the Zenfone 2 x86 model

>>56559639
This looks pretty cool, maybe one day something like this could be real.

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I have one like this (pic not mine tho), fits in my pocket, it's kinda shitty but werks, it's running arch.

Lol faggitz, they weren't useless, they just didn't have the CPU power they needed to get work done.
OP, look at the GPD Win. It's as close as you're gonna get for the time being.

>>56560367
battery?

>>56560946
Sucks, +- 1~2h tops, but I've got it second hand and never looked for a replacement since I didn't need.

>>56555495
>where are nice things
haha, wrong planet, faggot

>>56560998
imma bump that to a 3.5hr, but danm, I hate it when a product is pretty but its specs are shit

>>56555495
you can get one for the low price of $2k

>>56556029
>small size
Isn't that the point?
>shit input method
Get a 5" keyboard to accomodate it.
>application design paradigms
Run a chrooted Debian.

>>56557204
Have they run a modern Ubuntu on N950 or it is just a mashup? A great phone on its time but hardware is lacking.

>>56556185
A bit larger than OP's device but far more functional. In this size though you can just get a laptop.

>>56555982
is that not what you do on a phone you absolute fucking imbecile

>>56555495
>>56555518
Both seem cool and shit as well.
I haven't tried them though. Maybe somehow they are more useful than current devices.

>>56558796
You tried Hackintosh and didn't succeeded or too afraid to fuck up?

>>56559770
Vim shall be fine on any size. Except if you don't consider it decent, in which case fuck off.

>>56559865
Obsolete, pretty interesting as well, gadgets have always been part of /g/.

>>56559995
I was considering buying one now that prices are down. Why you say it is garbage?

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>>56560051
>Not storing your laptop and cheeseburgers in your jynco pockets.
>making it

Are you fucking normies even trying? Please tell me this is bait.

>>56556356
damn that looks nice. if only they could find room to stick a tiny trackpad or better yet a trackpoint on there. using the mouse with sticks seems ok but still a pain.

>>56557893
I was gonna say battery life is probably going to be a problem but fast charge usb-c could at least alleviate that if you wanted to carry a power bank or you just know you're going to able to charge often.

>>56555942
What model is that

>>56559995
I wish you could stream games from your PC to your PSP

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Why not this? I really used it for everythin, typing was comfy due to oval shape of keys. I miss my kaiser sooo much...

>>56555691
the device for this that exists and survived on the market is called a tablet

>>56555495
Hahaha. 20h? Bitch no. This shit didn't last 2 on minimal brightness. Also, keyboard is shit and screen way to fucking small

>>56555538
I loved it, but it was sooooo fucking expensive.

>>56562291
>more useful than current devices
I doubt it.
Looking up the specs of the Vaio P OP posted, it doesn't seem COMPLETELY useless, though.
It had a 1600x768 screen, with the highest specced model sporting a 2 GHz Atom Z550, 2GB RAM, and a 256 GB SSD.

Still heavily underpowered compared to current devices, and most certainly not more useful than current devices, but you might be able to get some use out of it.

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>best mobile keyboard ever
>30+ battery life
>runs linux
>runs on 2 standard AAA batteries
>built before planned obsolescence became a thing in IT

>>56562279
As a Priv owner, no

>>56555495
T A B L E T S
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>>56555942
>the book shill is back again

It's overpriced.

>>56562279
Do you type long texts on your phone tho?

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>tfw no sony vaio picturebook with modern specs
why even live?

>>56556109
Can this run android?

>>56557893
I want it now. I wish there was an android version. I have some kind of affinity towards android's with keyboards.

>>56559941
that's exactly your size

>>56555820
> >these things need more than 5 lines of vertical space. i don't think you know what you're talking about.
>1600×768
Anon it's actually better than X220 or ThinkPad Tablet 2