/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Are used HDDs okay? I know I'm not covered by a warranty which worries me.

>>56552422
>>56552555

SAME FAG!

>>56552572
Are you capable of checking the number of IPs participating on a thread?

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>>56552555
>buy used hdd
>recover data

aah the stuff i've found

>>56552422
Slightly unrelated, but I misread the thread as pcb-general. I was expecting a discussion about PCB boards.

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These heatspreader things appears to be useless. Am I right?
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1743010/ram-heat-spreader.html

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PLEASE HELP ANONS, I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO GO INTO A PC REPAIR SHOP~

Had to replace my dying/ dead PSU, and now whenever I turn on my PC from being off, or resume it from sleeping, it sort of "revs up". This is what it'll do:
>Begins to start up for a few seconds
>Stops abruptly, stays off for a second or 2
>Repeat anywhere from 2-15 times until it finally turns on

Help friends?

>>56552598
how do i recover data on a hdd? im thinking of buying some used to see whats in there xd

>>56552555
check SMART of used hdd before buying it if you can, or ask for screenshot/photo of crystal disk info or etc

>>56552797
You're goddamn right

>>56552881
fucked up PSU i guess. Or something is wrong with your mobo

>>56552881
Try resetting the BIOS. After that, if you have multiple stick of memory, try them one at a time. If you have onboard video, take out your video card and try the oboard.

>>56552989
make sure the seller is a qt 12 yr old

Is there any decent 2160p bezel-free monitor for <700$?

>>56552881
Having the same problem as you right now, computer turns off then turns back on. not my gpu or psu as I replaced both of those

any help?

>>56553036
Acer S277HK
I own one and can't tell the bezel is there with lights off

>>56553068
please see >>56553014
>>56552881
also if you aren't using motherboard standoffs/risers you could have shorted the motherboard causing damage to the circuits

>>56552422
pcpartpicker.com/list/cw3N6X

Going to run several VM, game, office work, media server. I already have several drives, so that's why I only have 1 hdd. I am kindof unsure about the fans. I don't know much about fans to know what to pick. I think I'll need a few given what I'm going to do with the machine but what do you anons recommend?

>>56553014
>>56553112
Dumb question, but what does resetting the BIOS do? Does that restore my PC or any shit like that?

>>56553199
It just resets the settings your BIOS is using. It doesn't affect your data.

>>56553199
Resetting the BIOS will reset your CPU and motherboard settings. Overclocks, time and date, power-saving options, memory timings, it will reset it to factory settings.
BIOS options can be changed from inside the OS, but it is not recommended.

>>56553229
I'm not sure if there are any important settings in BIOS that will be reset, is the BIOS usually in default settings normally?

>>56553112
I reset the bios multiple times but the shutdown still happens, not just a normal shutdown but like the power cuts off.

>>56553155
>no SSD
just get fractal's fans to match up with the 1-2 you get with the case.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4drqRG
Thoughts?
I know
>garbage headset
>Meme keyboard
>gaming on wifi

>>56553300
it'll work

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>>56553253
try pulling the button cell battery on your motherboard and putting it back in. that is hard resetting the bios.
also, are you using motherboard standoff/risers?

>>56553229
>>56553234
In my BIOS settings, is "Load UEFI Defaults" the same as resetting the bios?

>>56552797
For DDR4, yes
Highly overclocked DDR3 would've gotten pretty hot though

>>56553300

>3gb 1060

>>56553300
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4drqRG
get a 5820K if you can, better performance
DO NOT USE CHEAP WIFI ADAPTERS FOR GAMING - I own the SAME MODEL adapter and it sucks even for netflix. Get a good one like Asus or Belkin, $30-$40 wifi adapters ARE WORTH IT - the signal never drops and ping is fast
also that headset sucks, get stereo or bust

>>56553416
>>56553300
also, get a wifi adapter that supports 5GHz (assuming your router outputs a 5GHz band)
it wont be interfered by microwaves

>>56553416
I hear USB wifi adapters are fucking garbage and PCI/e is where it's at
Is a $20 PCI wifi card enough to hold me over

>>56553447
>>56553416
>>56553402
Fixed

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jRwgL

>>56553296
Already have an ssd, but thanks anon.

>>56553478
listen dude, i told you in the last thread.

you're wasting over a hundred fucking bucks buying shit-tier products to "hold you over". you wont get back even half that when you sell it after you bought the good products you want.

stop being a fucking retard and wait until you can afford buying something good.

>>56553507
I saw that video card for $20 less on some site yesterday. I was extremely tempted to buy it.

>>56553447
>>56553478
And why does not a single PCI wifi card support 5GHz/A?

>>56553516
2TB drive is only $10 more than 1TB

>>56553478
no usb adapters are fine. the reason why pci adapters exist is because when USB 1.1 was too slow, they made pci adapters because usb 2 wasnt out yet. now were on 3.1 so it doesnt fucking matter. USB is fine and dandy

>>56553517
It's "holding me over" until I move to a place where I can reasonably plug in my $2 Ethernet cable

>>56553014
>>56553112
Just reset BIOS settings, didn't fix. As of right now my PC is kill (won't even attempt to turn on).

I feel like it's a PSU problem

>>56553544
BECAUSE THEY'RE SHIT
USB is fine, your internet will never be fast enough to top out USB speeds
>>56553507
Stop buying TP-LINK garbage. Get a good one like Asus or Belkin.

I currently have a R9 380, which does really well for me at 1080p. I'm considering buying a 1440p monitor and I'm wondering if my GPU will do okay. I'm well aware that I won't be playing AAA games at native resolution but I don't care about that. Will I be able to play games like EU IV and Civ V at 1440p with the 380? Or should I consider upgrading?

>>56553589
I will ask a third time. Are you using motherboard standoffs?
If no, you could have possibly shorted your motherboard.
>>56553597
I have R9 290 and I play battlefield on ultra at 4K with no problem, so you should be fine.

>>56553550
I have 6tb in storage already that I will be throwing into the case, as well as a ssd. I've never used a fan controller though. Since the case comes with two fans do I need any additional fans? And will the fans in the case work with the fan controller? Sorry for the stupid questions.

>>56553560
>>56553594
I was thinking a power draw or connectivity advantage maybe
I'm sure we're all aware 300MB/s is less than 1GB/s

>>56553614
I didn't build my computer, so I don't know what motherboard standoffs are nor do I know If my PC has them or not

>>56553659
Look you dumbshit
If there's a spacer on the screw between the motherboard and the case
You're smart enough to figure that out right

>>56553659
He posted an extremely clear picture of what they were
I didn't know what they were a second ago and now I'm 100% confident I could find them

>>56553690
Lmfao relax bud, I'll go see

>>56553690
>>56553713
Oh I hadn't seen the picture, now I understand why you called e a dumbass.

I'll look to see if I have standoffs installed or not

>>56553614
>I have R9 290 and I play battlefield on ultra at 4K with no problem, so you should be fine.

Thanks for the info. I figured I would be fine but couldn't find too much info about running that card at 1440p.

>>56553517
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/P49wgL
I was so concerned about getting a headset with a mic to play with friends I forgot that I had a shit tier one in my garage
fixed with literal 5 dollar peripherals
>>56553594
See above, chose asus wifi adapter

>>56553594
What's the best PCI (not PCIe) wifi card? Don't need 5GHz/a and don't wanna spend a ton of money
You say don't get tp link but their $20 PCI wifi card is like the only PCI wifi card there is that's still sold at more than one site
Are the other ones outdated/overpriced/obsolete?

>>56553811
Interested as well

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>>56553690
>>56553754
I believe my motherboard has standoffs

Pic related, little gold screw thing that's keeping the board off the case.

Where do i learn about the purpose of each component?
I don't know shit about pc building.

>>56553864
Turns out the PSU that replaced my dead one was a Logisys one. Fuckers gave me a piece of shit PSU. I guess it's time for me to learn how to install my own stuff, these places keep fucking me
over.

So it's reasonable to assume that my problems are coming from the Chinese street tier PSU they gave me?

>>56554072
The OP.

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>>56554075
It's a reasonable thought
>>56553811
>>56553858
Now I'm worried. There's dozens upon dozens of unanswered threads talking about how Windows 10 has serious software/driver problems with TP link PCI cards
I don't wanna use up my last PCIe slot to get a "normal" PCIe card and USB dongles are for white trash
Pic related: the only PCI wifi card that has consistent and widespread prices

So the core i3 is better than a FX 8300?
Do 750ti still good buy options?

>>56554072
CPU: main math dude. He does all the hard work processing numbers. If you game, he does the physics too.
GPU: renders textures, does antialiasing, and pretty much everything in the gaming world. Not needed for a work or school computer.
RAM: kind of like short term memory. It keeps everything that's currently running going, and keeps a cache of information when you close out a program. The more, the better.
Motherboard: backbone of the PC. Keeps everything connected to each other.
PSU: Supplies energy to all parts of a PC.
Use the links that op posted and look it up on Google.

>>56554072
Watch this
https://youtu.be/SWWlEo0uIRg

>>56553624
you're getting twice the space for basically no extra cost. if you already have drives and an SSD for it, why are you buying more in the first place?

you dont NEED more fans in that case.
what fan controller are you talking about?

>>56553561
i mean the fucking headphones and mouse and keyboard and other shit as well.

and you could just use your fucking phone for internet tether via usb if it has that feature.

>>56552422
Are Squaretrade warranties on new parts from Amazon worth the extra dosh or no?

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>>56554244
fucking gold

>>56554259
I'm someone else, I already have a $15 Logitech keyboard/mouse combo
I just want use wifi
And my phone does do that, and it's like 5x faster than my wifi, but muh data limit

>>56554357
>im someone else
oh ok.

>muh data limit
ya but you can connect your phone to your modem wifi and your computer to your phone via USB and you dont use your mobile data.

>>56554259
There is a fan controller in my link above

>>56554489
oh i missed that. check to see what type of connector your controller has (3 or 4 pin small fan or big molex)
check your case specs to see how many fans it supports, how many comes with it and what sizes.
then you can check a fan comparison test to see which ones move the most air (CFM) while being the most silen (dB)

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Hello.
I have currently 2 GPUs to my disposal to choose from: Radeon RX 470 4GB
or Radeon AXR9 380 4GB
Both are around the same price. I never had a AMD before and im unsure but i only have this two options in my country for cheap.
Also, will i be able to see a large difference in power compared to my current GPU (see pic)? Or should i rather upgrade my CPU for a bigger performance impact. I mostly play games like Total War, Metro, Arma 3 and some MMOs. Thanks

>>56554531
Also high static pressure fans (SP models, high hg/mm pressure ratings) are good for restricted airflow like heatsink/radiator fans or stupid case designs where's there's 50 hard drives in front of the fans

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I'm looking at downsizing my computer from a Define R5 to a Define Nano S. How does my build look and how's building in the Nano S if I want to add more storage? I would also appreciate part suggestions if it would make this upgrade cheaper.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/JRXVWX
>Motherboard must have connection points that aren't retarded and have Linux-compatable wifi
>Case should be silent and decently small with good cable management and accessibility

>>56554731
470

no

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>>56554731
>127c

>>56554731
Yo mother so hot

>>56554763
No to what? Upgrading the CPU or the large difference to my current GPU.
>>56554765
>>56554774
Ignore the motherboard, it is not on fire.

>>56554790
difference in power

you should definitely upgrade your cpu, tho.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKTYNN

bought the psu last night, feels good man
what should I buy today? anything I should change?

>>56552422
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/nBHqRG mostly for gayming and work. Trying to do smallest possible build, because i don't have that much space on/near my desk. Any suggestions? I already have that hdd

>>56555086
everything at the same time preferably. if not: cpu, ram, mobo, cooler and SSD so you can test those and install windows and update drivers and watch porn

>>56555108
dont need aftermarket cooler unless you want something a little bit cooler and quieter than stock heatsink.

>want to go smallest possible
>not ITX mobo and case

>>56552422
Thanks for the Links OP, logical increments it's awesome with prices for your own country

>>56555128
i was going to wait to see if any of them go on sale in the next couple days

>install windows and update drivers and watch porn
good idea anon, I hadn't thought about that. still iffy on the mobo but I will start with the other pieces

>>56555179
>ITX mobo for twice the price with less features
>cheap mITX case with space for 30cm gpu

>>56555264
>twice the price
lol no: http://pcpartpicker.com/products/motherboard/#f=8&sort=a8&page=1

>less features
overall yes, but can you name which ones you need?

>cheap mITX case with space for 30cm gpu
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/2kTrxr,8238TW,YHV48d/


btw the corsair 200R you picked is a standard sized case so you wont save any desk space with that no matter what motherboard you choose

>>56552422
Name the best wifi card for a PC tower.

Bonus if it does bluetooth.

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How do you guys pick a motherboard? What features do you look for in one?

>build a pc for about £600
>see a second-hand one on gumtree that's just as good for £400

suicide may be an option 2bh

>>56552422
News about the next amd cards?

>>56555397
chipset, mosfets, power phase, number of ports and types of them, RAM speeds supported, high quality capacitors and other durable parts.

most of these are hard for someone to tell without having it in your hands and actually testing it, so real reviews are key.

>>56555452
What motherboard do you use? Sounds like you know your stuff.

>>56552422
What is that thing in the picture?

>>56555446
GPUs*

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>>56555474
P67A-UD5-B3 but you should not buy this it's for old socket 1155

on some mobos you can get a general idea how good mosfets and power phase is by looking at the marked parts of this pic

around 120-170 will get you a really good motherboard, check the pic and notice the parts i market in my pic, add them to a compare list and then google a review and see which one seems best

>>56555452
>high quality capacitors
Out of interest, what difference does that make

The one on my guitar amp blew up because it wasn't rated high enough to take the voltage. Outside of that, why does it matter?

>>56555526
Underage b&.

>>56555526
90's mouse, you had to remove and clean the ball because it used to accumulate dirt.

>>56555625
just general quality difference. japanese caps are considered high quality. they last longer and are guaranteed not to be lower rated caps rebranded by some chinese scammer.

>>56555620
>check the pic and notice the parts i market in my pic, add them to a compare list and then google a review and see which one seems best
i mean check the images on the site you are shopping on, look at the same parts i marked in my image, and add a few alternatives to your shopping list or the website's compare feature, then google some reviews for those mobos.

>>56555620
Aren't Gigabyte mostly good choices?

>>56555674
yes but all brands have cheaper versions. if you're not going to overclock it makes it much easier as you dont have to get something that is more stable when doing that.

i you wont OC just pick something in your price range and google a review from a hardware site to see if they find any blatant issues with that model.

>>56555364
I've picked Thermaltake v21, not corsair 200R, but whatever. Upgradeability is one of the reasons I would rather go for micro atx, cheapest itx mobo is $20 more expensive, max RAM is only 32GB and have only one pci-e, so I can't even put in wifi card in it.

>>56555723
Most ITX boards come with onboard wifi+Bluetooth or have a minipcie slot for those thing
And when have you used over 32GB?

>>56555723
Because what you have is great, but ITX is generally much smaller than mATX if size is a concern

>>56555723
oh i mixed your case up with someone elses.

for the rest i agree with this anon >>56555794

What are your thoughts on thermaltake water 3.0 ultimate?

What does /g/ think about this case?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811853032
>
DEEPCOOL GENOME The worldwide first unique PC case with integrated 360mm liquid cooling system White case with Blue helix
Free active PFC (650W)power supply w/ purchase, limited offer

versus

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1UH3YS9968&cm_re=Cooler_Master_Storm_Trooper-_-11-119-297-_-Product
>CM Storm Trooper - Gaming Full Tower Computer Case with Handle and External 2.5" Drive Dock with Side Panel Window

>>56555891
i could google a review and copy paste the answer, but i wont because it would be faster if you just did it yourself and i'm not here to spoonfeed your lazy ass

>>56555620
Those highlighted components usually aren't important to the people who aren't going to overclock their CPU. For normies and first-time builders, the stuff on the rear I/O port, the number of SATA ports, and how many useable PCIe slots it has is more important than the number of redundant power phases it has.
Most normies only have one or two drives in their entire build, only use one graphics card (usually a single-slot cheapo sub $150 one), and occassionally might need a single PCIe 1x slot for Wi-Fi/second NIC, additional USB ports, sound card, or some adapter.
That means that a Micro-ATX motherboard is more than enough for them, as well as a H81/H110/A68M chipset motherboard.

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I bought an used PSU for real cheap to use on my newest build. The low price was because it's semi-modular and it doesn't include the PCI Express cables, so I thought I could just order the damn cables online and problem solved.

However, reading elsewhere, it seems that PSU manufacturers do not have a standard for pinouts, so buying a cable that does not match the specified PSU could end up shorting out the components.

HOWEVER, it seems that, while SATAs are at the manufacturers' arbitrary pinouts, PCIe is, indeed, standarized across the board (+12V for pins 1-3, grounds for pins 4-6).

So, can I buy the damn cable and plug the GPU without frying it in the process?

(I know I can take the cable and wire the pinouts myself, but that's too much of a hassle. Also, I don't have a multimeter).

>>56555922
I have one, I'm just asking if anyone else likes it.

>>56555914
buy any case and a any 3 slot closed loop liquid cooler and you have the same thing

>>56555926
yes thats true i pointed it out in another post >>56555717

and i asked him to list which features he needed

>>56555958
go to newegg or some site that sells it and check their user reviews, far higher chance than someone here to have it...

>>56555941
>So, can I buy the damn cable and plug the GPU without frying it in the process?
Just because one end of a cable is standardized doesn't mean that the other end will be. I think Raidmax had a semi-modular PSU that had a different pin-out for both ends of their PCIe connectors, leading to some fantastic fireworks when someone jammed the wrong end of the connector to their graphics card..

>>56555941
i would go to a website that sells case mods or other custom pc parts and ask them to make you some for your specific PSU so you know it's correct.

alternatively contact the seller you got it from and ask if he still has them cus they would probably be useless for him if he bought a new PSU.

>>56556058
or even try contacting the manufacturer and ask if they have spare cables.

or buy someone's old cables from ebay

>>56556012
>>56556058
So, what gives, then? Do I buy the cables, take the PSU to a repair shop and ask them to customize them so I don't fry the graphics card?

That sounds like a plan.

>>56556226
You could try Googling the PSU and figuring out which company made it. Most PSU manufacturers (usually not the company whose name is emblazoned on the PSU) have habits like how they do pin-outs on all their connectors. You could then save yourself some coin (and maybe even your PSU) by redoing the wiring yourself.

>>56556222
>>or even try contacting the manufacturer and ask if they have spare cables.
>or buy someone's old cables from ebay
It's a white label PSU, manufactured by Hui Zhou Sinhuiyuan Technology Co. Ltd.

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>>56556261
why on earth would you buy something like that?

>>56556261
>manufactured by Housefires Ltd.
FTFY

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>>56556261
>Hui Zhou Sinhuiyuan Technology
Looks like wires don't matter where we're going

>>56556279
Again, it's cheap. They are very common where I live.

In any case, I have it for sale in plenty of places, as a plan B. Let some other moron deal with the damn thing.

>>56555446
>>56555576
Nothing, we wont have a RX490. Just gotta wait until next year most likely.

>>56556306
please sell it and buy something that is less likely to burn your house down like a corsair cx semi modular

I just ordered a motherboard with only 2 PCIe slots, and 2 PCI slots (one usable one with GPU installed)
What the fuck do I even put in the PCI slot?

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Is it a good idea to get a Fury X or should I wait until Q2 2017 for AMD's new line?

Nvidia is not an option after defective DisplayPort outs in three (3) Maxwell cards

>>56556358
old stuff like soundcards, network cards, usb cards, sata cards

same things that are available for pci-e x1 x2 and x4 slots these days

>>56556374
fury x

and nvidia is not an option for me because they want paid extra for gsync and have worse dx12 support and get less boost from new drivers

>>56556311
>it's gonna be the ARES HD 5870x2 all over again
AMD haven't learned their fucking lesson.

>>56553377
sorry for late reply, I might as well just upgrade my mobo because a gtx 1070 and a old i7 doesn't pair well

>>56556409
But I don't need more sata plugs, I have plenty of USB ports, an external DAC, my mobo has a wired internet port and all the wireless PCI cards are incompatible with Windows 10

>>56556516
you're not the only person in the world, buddy

Looking to upgrade my shitty gpu with a GTX 1080.

Currently I'm using a i5 3570k at stock speeds, would it bottleneck the gpu after some OCing or should it be alright?

>>56556844
if you OC it should be less of a bottleneck but you will still get very good graphics

>>56556868
yeah thats what i figured, might just get a 1060 instead since its alot lighter on the wallet

>>56553398
I will use DDR3, but I don't plan to overclock. I'm not a ""PRO GAMER"".

>>56556933
a 1070 would be better desu

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>>56555625
Read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

>>56556933
If you can live with the performance difference, the 1060 is a great value, but a 1070 would match your CPU better like >>56556970.

>>56555526
Important informatics technician knowledge. When someone was able to "fix" the mouse by cleaning it's ball, then this person started it's career as "the guy that fixes PCs".

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>>56556409
I have an 970 though. I just bought a 1440p monitor so I wanted to upgrade.

Dunno if my seasonic X 650 can power an OCd 2500k and a Fury X though.

>>56556261
Throw this in the rubbish bin, you moron. Don't you know this will fuck your PC entirely and yourself? Your PC will die, and then YOU will die. Buy a decent PSU!!!

>>56557089
you know you can find out that in a few seconds just by googling right? "fury x power consumption"

>>56557089
Your cat needs to go on a fucking diet, phampai

>>56557168
this

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>>56557163
Yeah but I don't even know if I want the fury X or if I should wait. I'm not in any hurry.

>>56557168
That's not my cat desu. This is my cat. She is 3lbs overweight according to vet.

>>56557251
stop fucking feeding your cat so much you asshole

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>>56557285
I didn't make her fat. I had to have a family friend watch her for 1.5 years because of circumstances. When I left her there she was was 12lbs. When I got her back she was 22. She's 16lbs now.

I only feed her 3/4ths a cup of blue Buffalo meme food every 1-1.5 days. She doesn't eat much and leaves food in the bowl all the time because she's free fed.

I really don't over feed her. It's just hard to get a cat to drop 10lbs when you can't really exercise her because you live in a 300ft2 apartment.

>>56555717
Thanks mate, I always check the Tom's harware reviews and they mostly recommend Gigabyte for MOBO

>>56552422
>http://pastebin.com/9Pbm4nHL
That pastebin is fucking trash just saying

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>>56557336
ah alright. i have a big cat too. 5.2kg maybe 0.3 overweight. can only tell he's tubby if you check just infront of his rear legs

>>56557385
fix it then

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Hi guys, so I'm trying to build a Gaymeing PC
but I want to make sure I have a good PC.
My budget for it is $2000
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9w8PFd

This is a build my friends helped me make, but I want to make sure its good and runs well. Can you guys recommend any changes or should I leave it as is? I would highly appreciate the help.

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Buying my parts tomorrow.
Pirating Win10 and already set with the necessities. (IE: mouse, keyboard, monitor.)
Just doing a double check.
Am I set?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7NDn6X

>>56558250
Not a bad start but
>not water cooled
>not 3200 memeory
>not saving 30 bucks by going with OCZ Trion
>Not going all out 5 TB on hard drive
>EVGA graphics card
Like really it's like you want melted plastic in your case
Also get another cpu fan if you can
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z6xTYr

>>56558465
>cpu fan
Whoops i meant case fan

>>56558453
I'm one of the guys from earlier. I have almost the exact same build, but compact. Here's mine: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FT3WTj

>>56558506
Might wanna send that again.
Said 404 when I opened it.

>>56558523
Son of a cunt I'm on mobile and it corrected me for some reason
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FT3WtJ

>>56558523
Please note that you can always expand on storage space and ram

>>56558465
>>EVGA graphics card
What's wrong with EVGA? Genuine question, sorry I don't know much about these things.

>>56558542
It's alright man no worries.
Did you already order everything?
If so how is it holding up?

>>56558559
They're cheaper but they tend to overheat

>>56558562
I'm saving 50 a week right now to get it in November
According to online tests and such it should do well, although you may want to check compatibility between the cpu cooler and case

>>56558579
Nevermind, just checked; it's all Gucci mane

>>56558579
Sounds good. Looks like your power supply is out of stock though.
How can I check the compatibility between my cpu cooler and my case?

>>56558453
Invest in a SSD. It'll be the best purchase you've ever made.

>>56558596
Oh shit whoops, sent too late. Thanks man.

>>56558598
I did it for you

>>56558607
What brand of SSD can I get the most bang for my buck anon?
Kinda have to keep some money saved over for tax and what not just in case.

>>56558631
With my experience, the Toshiba OCZ series is really good. Don't get Samsung as they charge wayyyy too much.
>>56558598
Get the corsair rx 650

>>56558631
Get a 240GB OCZ Trion 150 like the other guy. The 240GB model was under $60 a few days ago.

Remember to enable AHCI in your BIOS to make full use of your SSD.

>>56558465
My friend says liquid CPU coolers require maintenance. How does that work and how tedious is it? Also thanks for your support, I highly appreciate it.

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Make sure you motherboard has plenty of SATA III ports. My motherboard only has 1 SATA III port so my OCZ SSD is gimped. Still pretty good speeds though.

>>56558759
This is closed loop, meaning that no liquid ever has to be replaced. The only problem with it is, as is with all computer components, they wear down after about 3 years. Corsair is known for their reliability so I wouldn't sweat it

>>56558759
the most I can think of for closed circuit water coolers is cleaning the radiator off every few months.

>>56554119
Get a gigabit power line adapter.

>>56558845
How many fans should I get for this PC? And I haven't got a good ISP yet. (I basically just moved) Should I even worry about getting a network adapter?

>>56559068
I don't know about that man. As far as fans, go for 2 intake and 1 exhaust

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I think it's all about finalized, so how'd I do?

It was planned for about $600 upgrade, so still close to budget.

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3Yfyf
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/v3Yfyf/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L12 37.8 CFM CPU Cooler ($56.94)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170N-Gaming 5 Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($164.95)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra II 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 6TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased)
Storage: Western Digital BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (Purchased)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW+ ACX 2.0+ Video Card (Purchased)
Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($89.99)
Other: NCase M1 (Purchased)
Total: $620.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-09-11 23:06 EDT-0400

>>56559168
So I should just get 3 of the case fans I have on that build?

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Any recommendations for changes?

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/mdf3yf

>>56559306
I think that one or two comes included, check the manufacturer website

>>56559315
>2016
>buying an OS
I made some changes for you
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/p6HpBP

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>>56559305
>ncase
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Fs2jHN

>>56559435
I'm sorry, I'm sexually attracted to small cases, especially ones that still let me put in 3 big hard drives.

>>56559435
Also that RAM speed was on purpose. The minimum I would get would be 2666 since there are significant gains up to that point. The 3000 was only $8 buckaroos more so it was an easy hop.

>>56559305
I suggest something other than the Silverstone SFX PSU's. They have a really annoying sound profile.

If your system is REALLY cool then it's silent because the fan is off.

If your system is gaming then it's pretty fucking quiet because the fans at that speed is okay.

But the vast majority of time, your system will be at a temperature that tries to make your PSU fan spin at the lowest speeds possible, which is completely unstable, causing a whirring or clicking sound constantly.

You CANNOT alter this. Even replacing the fan is unnecessarily difficult because they put some kind of epoxy over the connectors.

It's really fucking dumb that I would prefer my system to run a bit hotter at idle/low loads just so my PSU fans spin up a bit to a stable voltage so the sound doesn't drive me apeshit.

I may give the Corsair SFX PSU's a shot, but it feels pretty shitty to spend that much on a PSU, only to buy another, equally expensive one, in a system that is already fairly pricey.

>>56559452
Yeah mate so am I
But not for $185

>>56559399
Thanks

>>56559305
>>56559471
BTW I have the exact PSU you are planning to use in an NCase M1, and I have AC in my apartment, so unless your ambient environment is going to significantly differ, you will likely experience the same shit I do.

>>56559499
K, so what PSUs would you suggest?

>>56559487
I've wanted that case for two years now and finally have the means to make it happen. It's currently in LA going through customs.

>>56559505
I'm the guy that made changes, not the guy with the shit PSU. But I will say that EVGA gold 80+ is always a safe bet

>>56559524
But do they even make SFX power supplies? I can't find any.

How easy is it to fuck up building this shit

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>>56559524
Actually did some research, and the Corsair SF 450W seems to be a perfect fit.

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Dv38TW/corsair-power-supply-cp9020104na

>>56559542
Depends, what kind of build are you doing? As long as you aren't clumsy as fuck with a screwdriver and start scraping off surface mount components you'll be fine. Just don't use too much force.

>>56559542
Very easy if you don't do your own research beforehand.
For instance, buying a CPU and mobo with different sockets, then forcing the processor in breaking either or both.

>>56552881
Had the same problem
Ended up being the psu fucking my mobo
So check your mobo

>>56559621
>>56559505
Yes, Corsair's new SF line is what I have been looking into. (I'm the guy with the Silverstone SX500-LG.)

I haven't gotten around to replacing it.

Please let us know how it works out. Hopefully I'll be around to read it.

In addition to not wanting to spend another hundred buckeroos, re-wiring an ITX case, even the NCase M1, is not a pleasant experience. You basically have to take apart the whole build to do it right in an M1, including taking off the CPU heatsink in my case (I have a beQuiet Dark Rock TF) AND the mobo.

Basically the PSU goes in first, then the mobo on top (there is a tab to secure the PSU mount which is covered by the mobo), then connect various cables to the mobo (SATA, USB3 header, power), then attach heatsink (there is an access hole in the back to let you secure the heatsink screws). Then finish connecting everything else. Make sure you plan for dressing the cables as you do each step.

>>56559542
If you do your part research, it's pretty easy. Just don't do ITX as many things can go very wrong. A mid-tower ATX will by far be the easiest and most versatile and likely the cheapest.

>>56559688
Huh I didn't even mention I was planning to make my own cables, but yea I am in the future. For now I got a LAN event at the end of the month so I'm just using the provided cables initially.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4XDn6X

r8 and h8 please. Building for a friend in the military.

>>56559725
You should buy a second hand key rather than retail.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/F9JTnn

First build. Not really strong on gaming, but will be using a dual monitor setup.

Walked into Fry's electronics today and for the hour drive it wasn't worth it. MicroCenter up north have better combo prices.

>>56559736
yeah, realized 5 seconds after posting.

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I already bought half of it, did I fuck up?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YB26D8

>>56559725
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TcJBLD
Don't pay for an OS
Other than that, I changed your GPU because don't get EVGA gpu.

>>56559773
Get a non EVGA GPU
Unless you like the smell of smoldering plastic

http://www.ncix.com/detail/bitfenix-comrade-white-window-atx-8a-100417.htm

Why is this case so cheap? Windowed, dust filters, tool-less design, and all it costs is $37 CAD. I'm tempted to get it but it feels like there is some serious flaw.

>>56559863
>http://www.ncix.com/detail/bitfenix-comrade-white-window-atx-8a-100417.htm
Probably flimsy, poor manufacturing tolerances, etc. With cases, you tend to get what you pay for, however Bitfenix is not a terrible brand in general so I wouldn't worry about it being such shit that you can't use it.

So I just bought am ASUS Z170-A motherboard, but I can't help but feel that I kind of fucked up by going a bit cheap and not opting to get the X99-A instead. People have been telling me that it's the "best value" motherboard given its features and price. However, it's normal price is around $250 while the Z170-A is $150.

What do you guys think?

>>56560142
Z170 is as good as it gets for people not trying to show off
X99 is for servers or dumb people

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Be honest, how likely am I to fuck something up or have problems/issues if I build a pc myself? (no overclocking)

Also, B150 or H170 mobo for an i5 6500? Kind of want to save my dollarydoos.

>>56560363
They've made PC building almost fool proof. Square peg in square hole simple. Just make sure your parts fit the right socket, start with pcpartspicker.

>>56560363
Assuming none of the parts are dead on arrival, you shouldn't fuck anything up unless you yourself are a fuck up.

Either B150 or H170 should be fine if you aren't going to overclock assuming the boards are actually good quality and not shit. Just get one that has all the ports you need.

>>56557089
>>56557251
>>56557336
stop overfeeding your fucking cats jfc

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>>56560388
>>56560396
Thanks bros. That's what I thought. Just needed a little confidence booster (cos I can be a bit of a fuck up sometimes).

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I see a lot of different 1070's on amazon, is there a 'best' one?

>>56560469

The cheapest one.

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I'm broke as fuck and my laptop's motherboard is dying.

Should I replace the motherboard for 100$ and live with it through 2017, or should I build a desktop with a hard budget of 300$?

>>56560961
I've already got a monitor, SSD, mouse, keyboard, speakers.

So... CPU, Mobo, RAM, PSU and assume I can DIY or scrounge a case.

>>56560961
>$300 desktop
Stick with the laptop and wait until you have at least double that to make your purchase bearable.

>>56560961
What laptop do you have? You don't need a GPU right?

>>56560469
Zotac amp extreme warning though it's a 3slot card kek.

Too cheap on parts?
Or just enough to upgrade, ditch mobo and CPU for ZEN/Kaby Lake?

>>56561004
forgot link.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jV76D8

>>56560979
used i5 sandy bridge system would probably fit your budget. i5 2400 would be a pretty cheap, non-oc. If no oc is a dealbreaker, then 2500k if you can find a good deal on it.

>>56560979
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/84svjc
This should do just fine.

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>>56560980
The gamble is, figure the power, monitor, etc, could also crap out at any time. It's a 4 year old HP craptop.

At 300$, I think I could get a good mobo with a newer socket. Get a lowest end CPU for the new socket, then years later replace it with the high-end CPU for that socket at end-of-life. Pop in new ram, get a bigger PSU.

The most advanced thing I play now is Tabletop Simulator... though it's not very optimized.

>>56561021
>i5
Actually my current plan was to stick it out until Zen drops, and see, since Intel will probably drop prices in response.

It's not DEAD dead yet, the onboard video just BSODs without warning on anything hardware accelerated. It can run email/word at least.

>>56561031
>>56561040
You can use the extra money to get a Z series motherboard so you can upgrade to an overclockable i5/i7 later down the line if that's your plan.

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>>56561031
Checks out! Free case! Perfect. LGA 1151 was the "future upgrade" socket I was considering for a 6600k later on or something

The REAL problem though is that even with a hacked BIOS, I still can't get my HP Craptop to change the default video adapter to bypass the faulty one.

Otherwise I wouldn't need a new computer. Apparently this is an issue with their multi-GPU laptops.

>>56561040
>The gamble is, figure the power, monitor, etc, could also crap out at any time. It's a 4 year old HP craptop
This is exactly what I was thinking, anon. What if you replaced the motherboard and then 6 months later something else dies. $100 down the drain.

>>56561102
>6600k
You will need a Z170 motherboard to OC.
Something like this: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vJMygL
But desu I'd just stick with the original mobo for now and get an i7 6700 (non k) later if you feel like you need it.

>>56561040
Was Zen even coming this year?

AMD doesn't change sockets as often. Buying into a budget Zen might be a better option if you're really investing into the motherboard for a future upgrade.

Assuming Zen pays off.

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Bros,
I'm thinking about buying a cheap chink dvd/blu-ray writer for laptops ($60). the interface is SATA.

How do I mount this in a 5.25 drive bay????? Is there an adapter I can buy or something?

>>56561009
>>56561004
For the PSU, new egg has the M12II 620 for $5 more
Also, excellent choice with the M12II, super amazing performance and reliability

>>56561243
yup there's adapters

>>56561262
what would I search for? got any pics of links?

thanks!

>>56561255
ooh, nice find.
Thanks man!

>>56561182

>Was Zen even coming this year?

Officially? No - AMD's roadmap always had it planned for 2017. There is/was a rumour about limited availability late this year but given the official annoucement of AM4 my opinion is the rumour was meant to be for motherboards (which have been made available to OEM's).

>>56561269
Try some combination of ODD slim, adapter and 5.25".

>>56561281
Well fuck me. Intel it is. I'm not waiting until 2017.

>>56561320
>ODD slim, adapter and 5.25
holy shit, your'e a genius! thanks. had no idea what that shit was called (slim optical drive)!

Is Windows 10 that bad for a new build?

Should I go with Win 7 Pro?

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what's the verdict on this m8s

i want a meme rotated motherboard case.

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opinions?

>>56561344
New hardware? Maybe not.
FUCKING HELL with driver issues on hardware that's pre-Windows 10, though. They did not give two fucks about legacy support, and "legacy" here is less than 5 years.

>>56561361
you forgot an aftermarket heatsink
don't use conductive paste.
if you're not getting high speed RAM then don't get RAM with heatsinks.
that SSD looks too cheap to be true
you should probably get a PSU with more wattage if you're going to go with bronze
you should get a less expensive keyboard

>>56561361
get a better mobo (unless that has all the ports/options you want)

also >>56561255

do you need the thermal paste? what cooler are you going to use?

>>56561361
I thought CPUs come with thermal paste in the box? Or is it some crap paste or something?

>>56561382
stock cooler is loud as fuck and hot.

>>56561382
>thermal paste
You can get Arctic Silver at any radioshack for like 6$ tops. Don't worry about it.

>>56561388
Oh ok. I might be getting that i5 myself. Thanks for warning me.

>>56561382
If you're using the stock cooler then it has the paste already applied to it. But why the hell would anyone use it?

Some guy's super quiet DIY build

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZoX7glIAS4

>>56561410
I am on a budget and I wanna hear how loud it is before I decide if I need a better cooler. If I decide to get one (later), is it possible to pull off the cpu and apply new thermal paste and put it back on? What are the chances of me fucking it up? Sorry I'm such a noob.

Any table recommendations?
Searched for 10 mins and this caught my eye
http://www.ikea.com/au/en/catalog/products/70219043/

but Im gonna do some more searching while waiting for replies, only request is it needs to be black and spacious

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Anyone have experience with the GTX 1060 Gaming X? Can't wait to give it a go. paired with an i5 6600

>>56561480
You'll need to wipe the heatspreader clean, but that's not too hard. Just search for "cleaning thermal paste" or something and you should get pretty good tutorials for it.

>>56561377
>>56561379
Advice noted. Thanks!
Keyboard is a little on the expensive side, but I'm on the side that my company will probably reimburse it.

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This is a build im making excluding the coolmaster haf x tower, the Asus gtx 560 Ti DirectCU2 top, and fan my friend is selling me and an hdd im still deciding on. Its my first pc wo i dont know much about whats good or not

>>56561410
>But why the hell would anyone use it?
It works, and is typically appropriately quiet and effective at cooling the CPU, though sometimes intel jews out and includes one that is solid aluminum instead of the copper core version.
Aftermarket is only for looks, super noise conscious people, and overclockers.

>>56561588
I think people here have said the Z170 is for overclocking and would not be worth the extra cost unless you have a cpu you can overclock (intel CPUs ending with 'K'). The H170 or B150 (if you are on a budget) would be better, but you should confirm it with others because I am not an expert.

Also, do you really need 16GB of RAM? A lot of people say 8GB is sufficient. But once again, I'm not an expert.

>>56561695
I am on a "spend as little as possible" kind of budget but im reasy to spend a grand on it if i have to im just looking for suggestions so i dont accidentally screw up,my first build and thanks for pointing out the ram it is supposed to be 8gb

>>56561377
Not him, but what's wrong with his paste?

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I'm putting together a PC for my girlfriend.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9JbVWX
Anything wrong with this build?
>meme card
10xx cards are still too expensive, she needs something that will last her untill either Vega or 10xx price drop.

Redpill me on monitors.

Do I stick to 1080p or go for 1440p or 4k? Does TN or IPS matter if I'm only using the monitor for gaming? Does having a higher hzs have an impact of anything outside of gaming? Should I care about freesync/gsync/vsync?

>>56561738
>"spend as little as possible"
Bruh, try >>56561009
with the new PSU.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jV76D8

>>56561798
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9JbVWX
Doubt you need a Z170 mobo if you're getting a locked CPU.

>>56561801
Freesync is good and cheap; G-sync is great but expensive. 4K isn't viable

Is a silent case worth the extra money?
What do you guys think?

>>56561588
>>56561738
What will you be using the pc for? Mostly gaming?

Firstly, I would just like to state this is my opinion, because I am no expert. You should confirm this info with other people.

Your graphics card is a bit old and doesn't need such an expensive cpu. The graphics card would be the bottleneck with an i5 6400. But if you use your computer a lot for other non-gaming stuff, that is a different story.

If it's for gaming, the cheaper i3 6100 would easily be enough for a gtx 560Ti (and buy the cheapest B150 motherboard, or even a H110). Heck, even the G4400 might go with it a 560 (but it's not good for future-proofing, and your pc might be a bit sluggish with general computer usage). But you should confirm this with other people first, because I am no expert. But I've seen builds with a G4400 and a gtx 950 together. If that's too cheap, you can go a i3 6100 with a 950, or even with a 960. So i3 is certainly enough for a 560 Ti. When the 1050 comes out, I bet some people will pair it with the i3, and some have even put the i3 with a 1060 (but I think the i5 might be better for the 1060).

Hope someone else can weigh in on my opinion, cos I'm still a bit new to all this myself.

>>56561801
Dont buy 4k, you cant get a playable framerate on those. 1440 is fine but requires a beefier gpu.

>>56561801
IPS:
better colors, better viewing angles, but more expensive, higher response time and can have backlight bleed
TN:
cheap, low response time but colors are meh and viewing angles can be shit

1440p seems to be a sweet spot. 1080 is pleb tier and to run 4K at good FPS you need some beefy hardware. Also: scalling issues.

I don't think high refresh rate is useful outside gaming, except maybe for watching 3D movies.

Free/G-Sync? Go for it if you can afford it

>>56561753
Conductive.

Reminder to futureproof by buying an i7, especially if playing games above 60hz.

>>56562085
Michael Dell go away.

>>56561588
Your PSU and RAM are rubbing me the wrong way, what's the 650w for? And gold certified? The premium you pay for gold over bronze is rarely worth it. 16gb RAM is a little much, try getting a lower clocked 8gb for less. Any money you save goes towards your CPU, which will be a 6600k. Goes really well with your MOBO and CPUs last quite long so it's worth the investment.

You'll obviously replace your 560ti with another card somewhere down the line, because you'll definitely be GPU bottlenecked in nearly all games (?)
I presume you're building your PC for gaming because you didn't opt for a powerful CPU initially.

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For Dota 2 primarily but looking to play GTA 5.

Budget is around 550-650 USD or 25,000-30,000 PHP(Philippine Peso)

Not really looking to play everything at ultra maxed out setting.

>>56562171
Additionally, I'm not really picking about casing so I left it out as blank for now

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DTK28K
what do you anons think of this workstation build?
I'm using it for TB Harmony, Cinima 4D, Davinci Resolve 4k editing, and After Effects.

I don't know shit about Mobos

>>56562171
why not get 1x8gb ram, and an rx 460 instead?

>>56562171
>2 gig GPU
>GTAV
No.

>>56562196
I'm completely new to building PC.
The rx 460 I've heard alot about and I'm considering it.
The RAM on the otherhand, I've been told is that 2x4 is better than 1x8?

>>56562171
This is around the sort of build I am looking at, and people have been telling me to go with a B150 mobo (even a cheap one) insead of the H110. They are pretty close in price.

>>56562198
What if I replace it with a RX 460 4GB?
I just looked it up and its much cheaper thanks to >>56562196

Guys, do you think a silent case is worth the money, or is it better to get a normal, cheaper one if I'm not running 4xGPU or something?

I'm about to get a new one and I likely won't be changing it for a while.

>>56562211
The RX460 isn't really worth it over the 950 unless it's a cheaper in your country. Which, considering it's newer, may not actually be the case.

>>56561998
How much of a response time? Is it big enough to make a difference in gaming?

>>56561949
How beefy are we talking about?

>>56561868
But they both do the same thing, right?

>>56562240
Don't buy the 4GB 460. In that case you're way better off getting a RX470 as it's significantly more powerful.

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So I think I've settled on the upgrade parts for my current build. What do you think /g/?

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Current PC from >>56562278 is pic related. Will only be reusing the HDD, SSDs, PSU and the HSF.

Are these worthy upgrades? Mostly doing editing and media creation, hence MOAR COARS and MOAR RAMS (DDR4).

pc building newfag
i5-6500 and gtx 1060; what'd be a good and rather cheap motherboard
don't plan on overclocking

So this is my first time building a pc. Is this a good budget list?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YdJN6X

>>56562258
>>56562248
Sapphire NITRO RX 460 4GB GDDR5 - 155$

ASUS GTX950 DC2OC STRIX 2GB DDR5 128BIT - 200$

Sapphire RX 470 NITRO+ 4GB GDDR5 - 235$

I'm kindy leaning towards the 460 because its cheaper but I understand that I'm going to get less.

>>56562211
Yes, 2x4GB of RAM you can do dual channel mode, though it's only a slight improvement. But it is a different story if you plan to later upgrade to 16GB and you only have 2 RAM slots. (but I have no idea when anyone would need that much RAM).

Your CPU would be plenty powerful enough for a 950 or 460, and then some. DOTA 2 wouldn't even need an i5 -i3 would be enough. Heck you could play DOTA 2 on the integrated graphics with the i3. But GTA V is a much more demanding game. You can play it on an i3 with a good enough graphics card, though the i5 would be more suitable. But if you're only getting a 950 or 460, many people are building those cards with i3s. Meh, I have no idea. I've exhausted my knowledge.

>>56562298
A lower priced B150 would be good if you are on a budget (but I don't know much about brand quality). H110 is even cheaper but not by much, and people are saying the B150 is better.

>>56562298
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130890
$80 after mail in rebates. You could get an even cheaper one but at that point you'd be sacrificing quality.

>>56562249
It's not that big of a deal. I just wouldn't recommend gaming on a cheap IPS display.

>>56562345
The 460 would be a shoe in at that point, yes. How expensive is the 380 in your country?

>>56562376
What is your opinion on ASROCK brand? Is that what you mean by "even cheaper but you'd be sacrificing quaity"?

>>56562397
No, no, I wasn't referring to brand in general. Is it much cheaper in your country?

>>56562329
My main issue is the motherboard i'm not sure about going that cheap

>>56562402
Oh ok. Sorry. I just noticed asrock has the cheapest b150 in some stores in Aus, but to be honest I have no clue. Was hoping you might know. So do you think brand doesn't matter much?

>>56562376
Thanks. It's micro ATX but fits ATX too right?

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Anyone? >>56562278 >>56562293

>>56561868
Good point. Any recommendations?

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>>56562372
>>56562393
Appreciate your response guys.
Also about the 380, not sure if its the same 380 you're referring to but from what I see its more costly. About 295$. Like I said, I'm really new to PC building :D

>>56562461
It'll shit on everything you throw at it. You'll be fine. I don't know what else to say.
>>56562505
That would be one of them.
I don't know why its that expensive.

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http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/xw8xHN

r8 please lads, remember it's difficult finding cheap parts Kiwiland.

Specifications are for something relatively portable (hence the MicroATX case) and with a decent CPU, I tend to play vidya such as Arma, Total War and Paradox grand strat games, which I've heard require a relatively strong CPU. I chose that monitor for FreeSync (tearing annoys the fuck outta me) which is why a DisplayPort cable is also in there, the monitor doesn't seem to come with one.

Budget is around the 1800 NZD (about 1300 USD) region, preferably under.

>>56562505
Man, that's expensive. How is that even possible? The RX460 it is then.

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sup pcbg.

i got pic related from my older brother and i have 200 eurobucks to upgrade it.

wat do i upgrade besides ram? anything i should look out for?

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>Depending on your graphics card, even the i3-6100 might prove more than enough for your gaming needs—it's almost certainly capable of maxing out a GTX 960 / R9 380 or lower graphics card in most games. We personally tend to go with around a 2:1 ratio on cost of GPU vs. CPU, though, meaning a GTX 1060 or RX 480 would be a great pairing for a modest gaming solution.
http://www.pcgamer.com/the-best-pc-gaming-cpus-processors/

Just thought I would share this for anyone who is building on a budget :)

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Slightly modified version of >>56561798:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BXFYNN
H170 instead of Z170.
All good?

>>56562698
I'd recommend these 3, you might want to check if they'll be compatible with your other old parts though. What brand/wattage PSU have you got in there?

>>56562739
>970
for what purpose? get 1060

>>56562749
>>56562698
Oops forgot the list

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Gqkg6h

>>56562761
>>56562749

had to open the case.
its saying corsair tx 650. seems a bit much for this thing.

>>56562751
Because I can get a used 970 really cheap on ebay. Why used? Vega.

newfag list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/qKdJyf
is the psu too much? should I worry about the compability notes?

>>56563099
If you don't plan to use more than these two drives - you'll be fine. Just remove the lower drive bay and voila.

>>56563143
650 is too much, get 550.

>>56563155
Meant for
>>56563099

>>56563143
>>56563155
Thanks. I could chip off 40€ with a different GPU manufacturer (Gigabyte), should I do it?
I'm not really familiar with the manufacturer business.

>>56563223
Yea should be fine, check a few reviews if you're unsure. For 40 euromonies I'd go for it.

>>56563251
Good, thanks

>>56563223
That wont be in the manufacturer. 40 Yuropoors have to come from somewhere, the Gigabyte one will probably be more minimalist, not offer you a factory OC, cheaper fans etc.

MSI for example has a minimalist version and a gaming version of the exact same GPU

minimalist:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/6144MB-MSI-GeForce-GTX-1060-6GT-OC-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1114180.html
gaming:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/6144MB-MSI-GeForce-GTX-1060-Gaming-X-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1112554.html

Both contain the exact same 1060 chip though.

>>56563297
Here's the one I added to my cart:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/6144MB-Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-1060-Windforce-OC-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail_1117373.html

and here's another one from Gigabyte for 20 yuros more:
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/6144MB-Gigabyte-GeForce-GTX-1060-Gaming-G1-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1114181.html

but what's the difference? The other is Windforce and other is Gaming, is this just to grab cash from ''muh gaming'' kids?

>>56563350
Partially, you can see the Gaming version has 3 display ports. Largely unnecessary and that's probably not where the difference in price comes from.

Gaming version is a tiny bit more overclocked, but I bet the big difference will be cooling solution. Both passive cooling and active cooling (fans) will probably be of lesser quality, and thus run louder and hotter.

Of course I don't have a clue because I've never compared the two, I'm just speculating.

I do know that the Gaming X version here >>56563297 runs about 5 degrees cooler, looks better (subjectively) and has fans that are way less loud than the ones on the minimalist version. If you want to know what the difference between the two Gigabytes are, try looking up some reviews.

>>56563399
Thanks, really helps.

>>56563408
Sure, the difference might just be in looks, it's only €20 after all. You were at least a little on the mark with muh gaming kids, you do pay more for a better looking GPU

I heard the cheaper Gainward is pretty good quality, btw. Might be worth looking into.
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/6144MB-Gainward-GeForce-GTX-1060-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Retail-_1113110.html

new thread when

>>56562568
>Buying an OS in 2016

Insert smug anime girl here

Went just a bit over budget, I'm sure you'll be fine. God bless sheepfucker

http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/JzxVWX

any comments or improvements?

maybe i can save some money on the psu?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LmpVWX

budget is $1600 maximum including monitor
i already have an ssd and os

>>56563626
Perhaps it'd be useful to know what you are building your PC for. Gaming exclusively or something more? If gaming, at 1080p/1440p/4k? And preferred FPS? I know your monitor supports 144Hz, but that in of itself doesn't say much.

>>56563656
oh right...
probably just 1080p i don't care too much for anything above that.
mostly gaming and audio stuff. not too sure about fps, just would like a game like starcitizen to run smoothly and beutifully

if im overpaying for what im trying to do, help me with a most cost effective build

Budget SSDs Question
Are Kingston SSDs ok? Kingston SSDNow UV400 is so cheap. Or should I get Samsung 750 Evo? I am thinking in terms of how many years they will last without dying/bricking on me. Don't care if one is a bit slower.

>>56563684
I wish I knew more about monitors, can't really make a judgement call there. It does only support 1080p/144FPS max. Just so you're aware of that since you weren't sure what your preferred resolution/FPS was.

If you are planning to game only at 1080p/60FPS then you don't need an i7 at all. A 6600k with a cheaper CPU cooler (like the ever popular 212 Evo) should do just fine. You could also opt for a cheaper MOBO, something like the Asus Z170P, and shave off another $30 or so.

Oh, yeah, and you don't need gold certified PSU. Bronze is okay.

>>56563802
thanks for the tips, anon
ill make a new build with that in mind

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>retailer offers free shipping on my whole order if I upgrade to an i5
>even if I add a monitor to the order

Is there a big difference between motherboard manufacturers ? Can't choose between ASRock, Gigabyte and MSI for H170 mATX board, they all seem pretty much the same

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>>56562730
>mfw I just bought a g4400

no regrets! it's like half the price of an i3, shouldn't need to upgrade for a while