/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

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First for this alps hybrid thingy.

I think that the prevalence of 'hacker' fonts on new mechanical keyboards is proof that a large part of the market is 12 year olds

>>56523426
what are "hacker" fonts?

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>>56523426
Given the fact that the largest manufacturers of mechanical keyboards are companies that produce peripherals aimed at gamers, that doesn't seem to far fetched.

Good thing that this place is full of mature fifteen year olds.

>Budget
No set limit
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Brown
>Layout
Iso
>Form factor
80%
>Backlight
Yh, ideally. RGB or white
>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech G15

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Trying to decide on a good keyboard layout.

>>56523225
aha so you were the one who was starting all these threads. finally got a trip i see

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>>56523548
>all these threads
Hardly all of them, only the ones with one of my images in the OP.

And yes, I got a trip on an anons request so he could keep track of my work. I only ever post here and in the /bst/ and just lurk the rest of /g/, so I guess it's excusable

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Blacks are objectively the best switch

no one can prove me wrong

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>>56523653
wtf you're back

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>>56523653
Oh you're actually not dead.

Yeah, blacks are pretty nice. Ask that stiff sliding action really feels good doesn't it?

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>>56523716
wtf that looks gay as hell

>>56523736
yeah, until i decide to use something else

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>>56523653
Black ALPS, that is.

Why do people say that certain switches are good for "gaming"? Even within rhythm games, some switches that are good in one game can feel awful in another.

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>>56523755
nah thats gay af

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>>56523742
YES IT DEFINITELY DOES :^)

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>>56523772

sup yo

>>56523606
Seeing this post makes my want to fix my CNC machine and start making keyboard parts, but it would cost well into the 4 digits and honestly I can't justify spending that amount of money for something I will only use two or three times

>>56523755
Wow you couldn't pick a worse alps switch.

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>>56523742
>tfw tada68 only got shipped out today
>tfw not enough keyboards

>>56523769
Because people are retarded and gobble up marketing bullshit that gets perpetuated by equally uninformed "tech bloggers"

>>56523799
You could probably finance that in the long run by producing custom cases for group buys and the like.

In the long run.

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>>56523799
i had an idea to make a 60% case out of this fucking sandstone i have to cut every fucking day

>>56523821
>tada68
did i buy one..
i can't remember now

what's the cutest keyboard

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>>56523806

You sure about that?

>>56523886
Lolita

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Those are some ugly-ass legends.

>>56523909
oh god
stop
no

>>56523909
>pew pew

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>>56523839
Make a case for a TKL or at least a 68 key. 60% suck in the regard that you barely get to show is the material that you used, unless you make the case have a huge bezel.

>>56523886
HHKB

>>56523909
Jesus

Who the hell is making this

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>>56523924

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>>56523886
jd45 with a better keyset than this

>>56523821
>You could probably finance that in the long run by producing custom cases for group buys and the like

You know that since I'm a very small operation I can't store large rolls of metal. Most the scrap I get I use to make small things to patch up stuff.

Also the biggest problem would be cooling the thing. Right now I just use a lot of WD40 and if I'm gonna be milling a large chunk of aluminum I need to get a dedicated coolant system which is also another grand

>>56523940
60% is easy
you just cut a pocket and drop it in

>>56523945
I didn't know corsair makes aftermarket keycaps now.

>>56523968
Yeah, but what's the point of using some fancy ass material if you aren't going to show it off properly.

At least have a HHKB style case if you're going to make a 60%

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>>56524012
no man
it's fucking rock
you can't make a top and bottom half

>>56524063
It's probably easier to just to use cast aluminum. I don't have much experience with it but with the time I spent with it it seems a lot easier

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>>56524063
Just make a PCB and plate that fits the pocket, this isn't rocket science

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>>56523886
Cute and comfy are the best

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>>56524101
but that would look retarded with a TKL

and i did in fact order a tada68 apparently
that would fit into a simple pocket

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>>56524153
That's why I'm telling you to make it HHKB-style.

Hell, I could probably even take care of the PCB and the plate if you make it a 40%

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>>56524184
no fuck that
i'll just use this stupid pcb

>>56523909
>MIA button
very tasteful and sensitive

What's the point of "le_haxxor_60%" keyboard? Is it designed for some kind of text editor like vi or emacs or operating/computer system other than ibm pc compatibles?

Where are the function keys? Thinkpad users complain about them and actually need them for example. Key combinations are uncomfortable.

Where are the arrow keys? How do i move my coursor or play pacman? Okay, you say muh "homerow", but i see no trackpoint too.

Is there any existing keyboard with socketed Cherry switches? If one fails, i'll just swap it for another without soldering.

>>56524730
60% is for patricians sorry

>>56524768
You mean, pederasts?

>>56524768
>60% is for people who can't type without switching to the mouse every word sorry
ftfy

>>56524795
This is untrue I only use the keyboard

>>56524730
75% is the god tier layout

soldering is fucking easy as shit you pathetic idiot, a switch failing isn't even something that happens often if ever

>>56523443
This is a 'hacker' font, and is why I made that post. I really like this keyboard except for the retarded font, and replacement keys seem to be $40 and up

https://www.amazon.com/MechanicalEagle-Mechanical-Keyboard-Anti-Ghosting-Switches/dp/B01FS7ROX0/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MTG3N9WND9A7XH5V90CB

>>56524730
>Is there any existing keyboard with socketed Cherry switches?

Only one I know of is the Team Wolf keyboard.

>>56525171
you're expecting too much from a gaymen chinkboard, just accept it's not the one for you and move on

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>>56524730
>Is there any existing keyboard with socketed Cherry switches? If one fails, i'll just swap it for another without soldering.

Socket would fail before switch does.

>>56525195
there is an upgraded version going on massdrop in a couple of days that has upgrades that I don't care for, but for some reason they chose a better font, and the price increase is still better than buying the original+new keycaps. However my internet is kind of bad and for whatever reason I can't load that massdrop page

>>56523522
Look pretty good, all that it needs is a trackpoint.
Now: How are you going to make this shit?

>>56525171
Its just a stencil font. They use it because stencil fonts are easy and cheap to doubleshot. Same reason why "replacement keys seem to be $40 and up", although you can still find those same shitty stencil caps for $10 shipped on ebay.

anybody with a pcb planck or preionic wanna tell my why my KC_LGUI and LC_LALT become switched when i compile? I'm using bone stock qmk firmware

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thoughts?

neat or autism?

>>56526353
that's freaking sweet

what is it?

>>56526353
Needs the other math functions.

>>56526353
>addition-only numpad

Super-autismo, honestly.

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>>56526387
agreed

it's called the Road Kit. it's made by the guy who made the minivan on massdrop

>>56526392
>>56526394
very understandable, i think.
using it as a le minimalist numpad for basic functions & as a switch tester seems nice to me.

keeping in mind this was made to accompany a 40% keyboad

>>56526392
>>56526394
i only ever used the + and enter, like for summing a series of numbers or entering numbers for stock trading, so that's all i would need in a numpad

vim arrow order is fucking wrong and dumb
it should instead obvious be
left up down right

playing with layouts, and as much as i want to conform to tradition and historic standards, this one just doesn't work for me

>>56526422

Probably should have used more single-unit keys to fit in more math symbols.

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>>56526353
total autism and a complete waste of that keyset

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>>56526478
i believe you could use a grid layout with it, and only 1u keys, but I don't remember

i don't think it's out yet

>>56526483
it is a nice keyset :^)
still hope it drops again

and where tf is gmk cyrillic

>>56526353
I would appreciate a left-hand flipped numpad far more.

>>56526519
>still hope it drops again
prob not
almost didn't make moq

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>>56526540
again, i think the pcb would allow for a grid layout so you could make it left handed if you want

>>56526592
that's too bad

i don't understand how
>THIS
looks better to people than the TA Royal Alpha set to anyone

>>56526622
wow way to grammar

>>56526622
looks like physical AIDS

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>>56523548
No, I was making the ones with the /mkg/ text, but being in the UK it sometimes meant staying up til ridiculously hours to create a new thread. I don't mind not having the OP, doesn't make a difference to me anyway because my 4chan postings can be sort of sporadic.

I even had one ready to go.
>Pic related

>>56526930
If anyone wants to recreate, font is Nexa Heavy for the /mkg/, Nexa Bold Italic for the bit at the top and Nexa Bold Regular (linear burn blending mode) for the credit line. I also used a slight vignette for most of them.

>>56521768
>What did you imagine it looked like?
More tight, this loose mechanism looks like its easy to break and isn't durable too much. But then again I'm new to this hobby so I don't know shit.
>That loose action you're seeing is what makes the switch so smooth without even needing any lubricant.
That's good to hear. I actually just got used alps board and I've been wondering if I should lubricate switches while cleaning them, but I don't have to, right?

>>56526930
>it sometimes meant staying up til ridiculously hours to create a new thread
get a life jeez

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>>56527140
One time I stayed up 30 minutes past when I would ordinarily knock off for the night. And I'd be doing other things anyway.

Soz you got offended senpai

>>56527060
>wondering if I should lubricate switches while cleaning them, but I don't have to, right?

Not really needed with ALPS switches.

>>56527140
Yes, please don't post threads about technology on /g/. This is a consumer review board.

>>56528946
>keyboards
>watches
>chinkshit
>graphics cards
sure is technology and not consumer review stuff in here

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>>56529067
Yes anon, look at this sick consumer review right here

Need help picking a suitable keyboard

>Budget
Around 100 usd
>Location
Taiwan
>Switch Type
Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
I'm okay with or without it
>Current board
Tt Challenger Prime

>>56529381
A ducky of you're choice. The Ducky Zero or the Ducky one should suit your tastes, and you'll even have warranty and everything since Ducky is a Taiwanese company (with production also in Taiwan).

Though I'd reconsider your choice of browns.

>>56523653
What keycaps bro?

>>56529559
GMK Dolch

>>56529474
What's wrong with brown?

>>56529747
the tactile bump is too weak when typing fast. consider clears or blues

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Are the older Cherry Blacks any good? I found one auction and I'm wondering if its worth the trouble

>>56529981
Vintage cherries are considered superior to modern day cherries since they're far smoother than the newer ones.

Cherry really should invest in some new molds. They're top of the game, but gateron does a better job at being smooth, which is the most noticeable part compared to their cherry counterparts.

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>>56529239
How do you even make plastic box like that for switches? I want to make a 60% keyboard out of this old commodore-style switches but it's layout is so uncommon I will never find ready box like on mechanicalkeyboards.com or somewhere

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>>56530200
I guess you could 3D print something, or cut it out of whatever material you like. Like pic related, it's just layers of plastic and metal.

In case you're wondering, I didn't make that "plastic box" that you're referring to. It's a magicforce that I brutalized a bit and then hand-wired.

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Is the ajazz ak33 any good?

>>56531559
sure why not. I'd go for the noppoo nano instead.

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>>56531622
How about the Qisan 68

>>56532021
It is one of the better chinkboards out there so go for it. Its not bad for $40

I want a $70-80 mx blue white keyboard. Preferably 80% with arrows and no led, what are best options?

How are zealios compared to 55g topre in terms of weight? Specifically 65g and 67g.

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>>56532536
They're about 10 and 12g heavier.

And they don't feel similar in the slighest, but that should be obvious.

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Model F 122 key on the way, and Model F 77 4704 (reproduction) on order.
Pretty exciting stuff.

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>>56523716
>>56523778
'70s as fuck

>>56532572
Isn't the Topre rating the actuation weight?

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>>56523755
awful

>>56533793
It does. It wouldn't really make sense to rate the bottom-out weight since the dome collapses after the actuation point and hence there's not a whole lot of resistance there.

>>56534048
Right, but Zealios are rated at bottom-out.

>>56523653

>GMK Dolch
why the fuck are keycaps like that so expensive? I just ordered a set of 87 doubleshot ABS keycaps from DCS for 40 bucks. I'd love to have a grey base-set/black modifier-set but they all cost over a hundred bucks.

>>56534160
DCS is thin and the QC isn't typically as good from SP versus GMK.

Not that I would buy a GMK set myself.

>>56534201

Still even if you want Dolch style from DCS you've gotta pay over a hundred bucks. I don't get why making 54 of the keys grey instead of blacks commands such a premium.

Anyone able to view CorusKB's website?
i was just about to buy a pok3r but the website is down for me

>>56534452

try using a different web browser, looks like their certificate expired.

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Can't decide /g/ Ducky one with cherry mx blue, or Unicomp ultra classic. I program and use command line a lot, occasionally play games.

>>56534452
i'd suggest buying from their amazon store instead

>>56535131
ducky one or noppoo choc mini

>>56525258
I believe that stencil fonts are easier to doubleshot, but I don't believe that that's their primary reason for choosing a non-standard font. Look at these ones, they're cheap, they're not stencil, and they're still using some retarded hacker font.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ducky-filco-ABS-104-double-color-Translucidus-Backlight-Keycaps-Key-Cap-For-Cherry-ISO-Mechanical-Keyboard/32616849610.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.58.0ZIFP0&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_4_10057_10056_10065_10068_10055_10067_10054_10069_10059_10058_10073_10017_10070_10060_10061_10052_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_7&btsid=ed164930-2af8-453d-aeef-abfab8f04f60

>>56535131
Unicomp is built in USA and has fantastic customer service. Also the membrane buckling spring will be pretty different than a cherry mx blue.

I was going to get a Unicomp but the dealbreaker was that there's only 2KRO+modifier, even with PS/2

>>56536206
those are shine-through and they look double shot, the font is due to the manufacturing the process, the straight lines make it less likely to fail

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Logitech G810 or Corsair Strafe?

>>56536555
no

Who sends him this shit?
https://youtu.be/NNzcqxUtz7g

>>56536647
he probably buys most of it himself

>>56536503
the ones in my original post are also shine-through and double shot, but they have an ugly font. I said they had a dumb 'hacker font' and anon replied stating that it was just a stencil font for ease of manufacturing, not a 'hacker font.' Then I showed that keycap set, which is also shine through and cheap, but is not a stencil font. Therefore I still believe that retarded stencil fonts and the like are just a result of catering to 12 year olds.

>>56536735
>Low resolution: double-shot legends are limited to low resolution designs with broad strokes and rounded corners. The range of typefaces and symbol designs available with pad printing and dye sublimation cannot be achieved with double-shot, as the moulding process doesn't support the fine detail and sharp edges that those processes afford.
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Double-shot_molding

both fonts are ugly, they just don't have much to work with

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>NKRO
>Blue switches
>White backlighting(from RGB though, might have some color bleed)
>Normal font
>metal top panel
>good reviews
>104 keys
>not too flashy if I don't want it to be

I think I'm going to get the E-Element keyboard

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/e-element-rgb-keyboard

I know there's a cheaper version that's not hot-swappable, but that cheaper version for whatever reason has a different font that I dont' like and it will cost more to buy an extra keycap set than to just buy the upgraded version with the font that I like.

Is there a glaring reason to not get this keyboard?

>>56536903
I can think of many reasons but as your first? Sure why not. Just replace those damn caps try getting a slick abs set or a cheap but nice pbt set
I just dont trust the switches but never tried the blue otms

>>56536903
the RGB leds are probably just on/off so white (red+green+blue) will probably look worse (tinted and limited color spectrum) compared to if you had plain white leds. and go for a keyboards with PBT keycaps imo even though it will be more expensive

>>56536790
I didn't mean to say that the 2nd font was pretty, I meant to say it was non-stencil. If it's non stencil, doubleshot, and cheap, then that means that stencil fonts are not a necessity for cheap chink brands with double shot keycaps.

However, I don't even know if the 2nd example is really doubleshot. I think they can use the other processes to get shinethrough keys, and it doesn't say on the link.

I'm not trying to pit against you or anything, I'm just still convinced that stencil fonts are used just for the aesthetics of the keyboard, and that certain group of aesthetics is reaching out towards 12-year-olds.

>>56536984
hm, that's a good point. That prompted me to look for other versions, then I saw a white-backlit version for $40, I don't know how I missed it

https://www.amazon.com/E-Element-MechanicalEagle-Keyboard-Anti-Ghosting-Switches/dp/B01EMJWP5M/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1473539489&sr=8-9&keywords=MechanicalEagle+Z-77

>>56536963
If I get this white backlit one, then I'll have money to buy better keys. I'm looking up more black normal-font shinethrough keys now

>>56523950
Full spacebar... For what fucking purpose? If this had a spilt spacebar I would insta-buy.

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New to /mkg/
what is the general consensus for das keyboards over here?
Are they overpriced?
Have been using ducky/corsair/coolermaster all my life and wanted a more luxurious experience for myself

is muh build quality just a meme or is it actually marginally better?

>>56537252
>split spacebar
what for?

>>56537405
python programming

where to buy PBT ISO nordic keycaps

>>56537483
lol

set your IDE/editor to put 4 spaces instead of tab

>>56537584
>spaces instead of tabs
>>56537320
It will be a sidegrade. Shitty ABS caps. Built in China. Shit switch selection. Marketing that's based on hype and "le epic features xddd".

>>56537751
>>spaces instead of tabs
for python you're supposed to use spaces, i'm not saying python isn't trash but that's how it is, and it's the only reason i can think of for why you'd want double spacebars, unless anon wants to explain it further

>>56537320
das keyboard isn't good it's just marketing and hype, there are better options now like ducky with pbt keycaps

>>56537800
actually, you can use tabs, the indentation just has to be consistent

and I was obviously making a joke about python you autists, I'm not the double space guy

>>56536064
Why though? Also choc mini uses gateron

>>56536320
Should I care about 2KRO+modifier

should i use a OZONE StrikeBattle Backlit MX Brown or a dome with sliders IBM vintage?

>>56538005
unicomp is bulkier and it only has 2KRO

choc mini is more compact so the keys are closer to reach (more efficient and ergonomic) and you can have the mouse even closer to the typing area

gateron is considered to be superior to modern cherry probably because cherry has old worn out molds, but choc mini does come with cherry mx too

>>56538081
yes

>>56538081
I don't think you need it for typing, since you won't be using large combinations of buttons. But I think someone told me that the way the keyboard or computer works is that if the signals come in too close together then they'll be considered overlapping and can get ignored if you only have 2KRO.

For games it definitely matters, because you'll be using button combinations all the time

But it sucks to miss out on brand new buckling springs with excellent customer service for only $84

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>>56538737
idk wtf happened to the lighting

>>56538737
Bro I'd rather get a Corsair k30 that looks awful and old

>>56538775
good bait

>>56538737
Just playing man is it an SSK Model M?

>>56538809
No, it is clearly a full sized model m.

>>56538756
Clicky mechanical?

Fuck I want one of those Model F keyboards so bad but I can't live without stabilizers and the new ones are just too expensive to justify the cost.

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>>56538950
Get an F107, there's 2 or 3 on ebay right now and they only need slight modifications to get them perfectly usable. Here's mine

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>get Royal Kludge RK61 in mail
>plug it in
>it doesn't respond
>comp can't even detect it
>try to figure out whats wrong by looking up youtube videos
>its all poo in loos or asians talking about it in their native language
Ive been rused. Sending it back and getting a refund ASAP

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why go mech when you could THINK

>>56539196
A laptop keyboard by any other name would feel just as shitty.

>>56539196
wtf is that

>>56539374
a thinkpad keyboard.... duh

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>>56539196
Why not both?

>>56536903

If thats the alps mount one you will be severley limited on aftermarket keycaps

>>56539413
>xbox hueg full-travel mech keys instead of clicky buttons for the mouse
shig

>>56539423
damn, you're right.

>>56539413
Isn't that the TEX Yoda? What's the ThinkPad logo doing on it? Or did they copy that design?
Either way, I want one.

>>56539565
tex yoda probably copied thinkpad

You fellas know of any numpads that go well with a poker 2?

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>>56539565
Yeah, it is. It seems lenovo and tex got a partnership where tex does the entire keybpard and lenovo provides the chinkpad sticker -charging extra $100-. Well, it must be worth it I guess, if a simple sticker can make people like shitty chink chiclet boards like this >>56539196 I wonder what it can do to a real mech.

>>56539450
>not using mx switches on your mouse

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>>56534160
exclusivity~

>>56534250
doing a production run isn't cheap. if you don't sell them in mass quantities you have to charge more per set

>>56534250
because it's a niche market, they can charge that much, and people actually pay for it. Fucks with disposable incomes pay that much for it and jack the prices up for the rest of us.

>>56539764
The thing that I don't get is that its cheaper to buy a genuine Dolch Pac keyboard for less money then the keycaps themselves

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where can i get:
RGB backlit
with multimedia keys
brown/red swtiches
USB pass-through
that is possibly not full size

>>56539804
The plastic used for them cannot be even moderately expensive. Why can't they manufacture all the keys of a certain type they need for the next 2 years, put them in some bins, and make the next keys. Keycaps have got to be the most non-perishable things I can think of.

>>56539840
>USB pass-through
shouldn't this be trivial with some kind of adapter which you could hide underneath the keyboard

>>56539840
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/search.php

Just fill in the blanks at the top and pick a keyboard you like

>>56539840
http://www.mechtype.com/mechanical-keyboard-list/

It doesn't have all, but it's a pretty good place to start.

>>56539855
it's niche, they can't expect to sell millions of sets of the same color scheme

>>56539874
problem for me, they dont have nordic keys

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>>56539930
If you need nordic layouts why not buy from Ducky Nordic (Pic related is a shine 4)

>>56539881
I guess I can't really say what they can and can't expect to sell a lot of, because I don't know what their consumer statistics are. My first instinct is to tell them to just make plenty of each, but then maybe according to their statistics consumer preferences change every 6 months. I'm still pretty sure they charge more just because people pay.

>>56539965
they have a website? i cant seem to find.
aslo PBT?

>>56540023
hmm... I can't seem to find it, but maybe give Ducky Nordic a PM
https://deskthority.net/vendors-f52/ducky-nordic-keyboards-keycaps-projects-and-misc-stuff-t4718-2190.html
But I was able to find this
http://www.pricerunner.se/pl/111-3099796/Tangentbord/Ducky-Shine-5-RGB-priser
Try looking for more keyboards on that site
Also there is this
https://www.teraset.net/ducky.php

>>56539870
>>56539874
im considering a 60% board
the Vortex POK3R RGB
but I still want dedicated multimedia keys
are there 10pads with media keys?

>>56540142
You want to get a 60% and also get a numpad with multimedia keys? That's a pretty strange choice, what's wrong with getting a full size keyboard?

>>56540187
nothing

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>>56540142
>but I still want dedicated multimedia keys
just use function layer mapping

>>56540198
Then why are you considering the option that has more desk clutter and costs more money for no benefit?

>>56540224
I like the 10 keys but dont need arrow keys
I want multi media keys but those are exclusive to full size

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What is the current opinion on the Feenix Autore? November they are supposedly releasing a backlit version of the keyboard with media keys as well.

>>56540363
Overpriced as fuck, stock caps are beautiful but non-durable, keyboard case is not very compatible with cherry profile / DSA caps.

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Is the Ducky Shine 5 any good?
Are MX Blues worth it?

>>56541252
Yes and Yes

>>56540269
I guess your needs are simply too niche for anything but DIY

Time to learn basic circuitry and simple milling

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>>56540142
choc mini and remap pgup/pgdn etc or F-row?

>>56541508
eh ok

Hey how would I go about making the poiseidon z a 60% board? Can you make 100% boards 60% in general

>>56541576
Well first make sure you know how the pcb is layed out and what components it has, some soldering might be neccesary. You might need to get a new contoler and reprogram the keyboard, and you definetly need a new case

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Got color keycaps for my Unicomp model M, what you guys think?

>>56541576
Also if you want to go through all the trouble why not just desolder the switches buy some resistors and handwire a keyboard. Teensy controlers cost like 20 bucks and you can carve a case out of wood

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>>56523225
If that keyboard was made of flexible substrate and had a lot more smaller keys it would be the perfect robot skin.

>>56541737
Why did you spend all that money on a shit board. Even the old IBM model Ms have better build quality

>>56541737
shave your legs faggit

to make sure the keycaps fit on my keyboard, I need to make sure that the following things are compatible:

>stem (in my case mx cherry and clones)
>layout (ansi in my case)
>keyboard width (not sure, I'll measure when it comes in)

Are there any other things I need to match, assuming I'm replacing all keys so I don't have to worry about height/contouring?

>>56541991
fuck, meant spacebar width

>>56541991
Stabilizers and bottom row key sizes.

>>56542113
damn, that seems to really limit my options, how many variants of common stabilizer set ups are there?

Does anyone's roommates, family members, or SO's complain about blue switches?

>>56542149
There's a lot of questions that you can easily answer by lurking more or by using Google.

Costar and Cherry. Issue is with keycap thickness or stems and interference with the stabilizer mechanism.

>doubleshot
>PBT
>Backlit
>Cherry MX compatible
>Nice font
>top number row doesn't have lighting issue like vortex keycap set

>fucking gay ass colors

>>56542186
>link

https://www.amazon.com/Backlit-Keycaps-Doubleshot-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B01FDFPUL0

>>56542186
You eliminated all your options when you said "no Vortex"

>>56542162
if you have your own room with a closed door it should be fine but if you're in the same room then blues are probably not ok

>>56542186
>Nice font

It looks like shit tho. Look at those fucking GIGANTIC modifier legends, its fucking disgusting.

Also light bleeding everywhere and OEM profile. Also also, legend plastic is not actually PBT, as PBT cannot be translucent. With those fucking huge legends, half your "PBT" set is going to be ABS anyway.

>>56542205
nah dude, there are some other options

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ducky-filco-PBT-104-key-double-color-Translucidus-Backlight-Keycaps-Key-Cap-For-Cherry-Ducky-ANSI/32642099048.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.28.ieVXrJ&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_4_10057_10056_10065_10068_10055_10067_10054_10069_10059_10058_10073_10017_10070_10060_10061_10052_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_7&btsid=1b37ea93-4cba-47c4-9210-e15cf827782d

These ones are pretty nice too, and cheap. Though I'm not certain they are double shot.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PBT-Laser-Engraved-60-87-104-Set-KeyCaps-Top-Side-for-Cherry-MX-switch-Keyboard-/281855927184?var=&hash=item419fec2390:m:m2Jd6mBLoWC1ul3ZuvH74JQ


https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=570

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1578

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1329

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-PBT-Transparent-Gh-60-68-87-104-Keycaps-for-Mechanical-Keyboards-cherry-Switches-Compatible/32689947675.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.278.xKoq05&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_7,searchweb201602_4_10057_10056_10065_10068_10055_10067_10054_10069_10059_10058_10073_10017_10070_10060_10061_10052_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_7&btsid=81218791-c008-44cc-b163-8922cf002b33

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=dmx_us104_blk_tw


http://www.maxkeyboard.com/ansi-layout-custom-backlight-cherry-mx-keycap-set.html

https://www.amazon.com/E-Element-Injection-Backlit-Mechanical-Keyboards/dp/B01EWJLIAA/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1473546654&sr=1-11&keywords=keycaps%2C+backlit

I've been looking for the perfect keyboard+keycap combo for a few days now, starting from not knowing anything about mechanical keyboards. I've even got a couple more links but the comment field is too long. Fuck me none of these are what I want

>>56542334
what do you mean by modifier legends? The ones for ctrl/shift/alt? I think they look pretty nice

Sub 100usd cheaper preferable
Usa
60% or smaller
No light
No reds

>PBT
>Double Shot
>Black
>Backlit
>Cherry
>legends are side-by-side on top so no lighting issue
>ANSI
>only $26


>gay fucking fagfuck font

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Doubleshot-Translucent-PBT-104-KeyCap-Backlit-Top-Printed-for-Cherry-MX-Keyboard-/152228739400?var=&hash=item691aa7ccdf&vti=Color%09Blue

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>people legitimately buying Cherry switches and clones
You should all kill yourselves.

>>56542740
Get a trip already so I can filter you.

>>56542752
This isn't one person nobody likes cherry as much as other switches

>>56542779
I do. Buckling springs ping as fuck, alps have some nice switches, but most of them are too wobbly or IMO too tactile -although I never tested blues or oranges yet. Also, travel distance is not as big as I like.
Topres are overpriced garbage. Omrons are way to tactile, and modern omrons (logitech orion someshit) are just like cherry browns, but worse. Space invaders are scratchy, not more tactile than browns and really prone to dust.

Lubed cherry clears, zealios, gateron tactile clears on the other hand feel pretty nice. Gateron greens and zealistotles/aristotlerons are also pretty nice.


There is also the keycap issue, even if I find the perfect switch, if it does not have decent thick cherry profile caps, it wont matter.

>>56542740
blues are fucking awesome, when you type fast and "gracefully" you get the sweetest feedback, it's like you have that meme sound from call of duty or when you ruffle through a deck of cards

>>56542919
I think youre just an autistic moron that has never tried anything but blues
They literally click and actuate and different times
Even rubber domes are better

>>56542960
>Even rubber domes are better
weak bait

>>56542989
Not bait
Blues are sub dogshit tier

>>56536903
>alps

Might have to get the black one and some matias tactile switches just to get a modern alps board that isn't gloss and fruity.

This is what I'm tentatively deciding on for my first keyboard.

https://www.amazon.com/E-Element-MechanicalEagle-Keyboard-Anti-Ghosting-Switches/dp/B01EMJWP5M/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1473539489&sr=8-9&keywords=MechanicalEagle+Z-77


Keycaps:

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1578

>>56543076
They are not alps tho, just alps mount. You cant put an alps / alps clone switch in there.

>>56543053
>topre tards are this delusional

>>56543114
Whos a topre tard?
You?

>>56543125
what's your favorite switch then? and have you heard about a thing called personal preference?

>>56543168
The only people who like blues ate peoole who have literally never tried another switch
Preference is one thing
But preference to the point of ignorance is just stupid

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>>56543113

>>56543183
it's better than rubber dome that's for sure you asinine sperglord

>>56543195
Rubber domes dont try to indicate an actuation at a point in which they dont actuate
So yes, blues are worse

>>56543195
No they aren't You act as if all rubber domes are bad. Some domes are high quality and don't feel as bad as cheapo ones, however all cherry blues feel like garbage

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>>56543221
k

>>56543251
you should get off this board

>>56543245
nice samefag and i had microsoft rubber dome which got great reviews for many years and blues are infinitely better

>>56543269
I'm not a samefag dude
also blues suck dick and you are a homosexual

>>56543269
Lmao dude
Losing so hard you have to resort to false claims of samefag

>>56543284
>>56543286
i'm not "losing" at anything you fucking autistic retards

and blues are great for typing, you haven't even dared to suggest a (subjectively) better alternative

>>56543221
>Rubber domes dont try to indicate an actuation at a point in which they dont actuate

Rubber domes are tactile (about 1/3 course), but actuate only when bottoming out. Do you actually understand what the hell are you talking about?

>>56543314
Every key that does not have the blue's major flaw is better

>>56543314
Literally anything is better than blues

>>56543321
Im sure tactile feel is the same as a definite click

>>56543328
>>56543335
and i thought /mkg/ was autistic yesterday when you thought all switches were the same for gaming... this takes the cake. and this: >>56543321

>>56543347
Yeah, they have the exact same purpose. Your point?

>>56543360
Do you think everyone is the same poster?

>>56543362
They don't

>>56543367
no, i never said that, learn how to read you insufferable sperg

>>56543183
>>56543221
>>56543262
>>56543284
>>56543286
>>56543328
>>56543335

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stylometry

>>56543374
>and i thought /mkg/ was autistic yesterday when you thought all switches were the same for gaming

>yesterday when you thought
>when you

who are you refering to?

>>56543371
Right, so in your opinion you put headphones and cherry blues instantly turn from shit to the best switch even created.

Tactility and clickyness were created to indicate actuation. The same reason why there isnt a single clicky non tactile switch.

>>56543378
Damn son
You must be a very bad stylomologist

>>56543382
i'm referring to the people who posted in /mkg/ yesterday

you can choose to understand or you can pretend you're winning your precious arguments by nitpicking individual words

>>56543390
Please direct me to where i said this

>>56543398
dude what the fuck is wrong with you take a break go outside.

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>>56543392

>>56543409
(You)

>>56543408
Where you fail to acknowledge even the basics of how tactility and actuation works.

>>56543424
So you admit you cant?

>>56543444
>clicking before actuating (although ridiculously close) is a flaw
>being tactile way before actuating isn't

You must be retarded.

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>>56523225

been trying to find a place to order the magicforce 68 in Canada, haven't been able to find a seller. Anyone know a place in Canada to order it?

Are 45g or 55g topre switches better?

>>56544744
55g

>>56544744
サブジェチブ。

>>56544801
>Sabujechibu.
what

>Budget
No limit, but I prefer a good price/performance ratio.
>Location
EU (Czech Republic)
>Preferred switch type
Blue or Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
80%-100%
>Backlight
Red preferred.
>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft Sidewinder X4, doesn't have to be similar.

>>56544852
主観的。

>Budget
$100
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Clicky alps
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
No preference
>Previous/current keyboards
Microsoft Sidewinder X4

I ordered my e-element z77, 104 keys, white backlighting, and blue cherry clones

should be pretty cool, and only $40

got trial amazon prime free 2 day shipping too

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>>56544744
I tried both of them side-by-side, and 55g just felt like a slightly heavier version of 45g. Didn't notice any difference in tactility between the two.

>Budget
£150
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
Topre or MX Clears
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% or 60%
>Backlight
No preference
>Previous/current keyboards
[spoiler]Filco Ninja Majestouch 2[/spoiler]

Really looking for a low profile keyboard

>Budget
$230
>Location
US
>Preferred switch
Topre
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
On screen keyboard

>Budget
*
>Location
UK
>Preferred switch
*
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
TKL
>Backlight
No
>Previous/current keyboards
pok3r

Main thing is a solid metal case. Can't be dealing with plastic.

Which of these options is Black Shell with Blue Switches or Black Shell with Green?

https://www.bhiner.com/taobao-agent/530601193591

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>>56542960
Tactile response is very good though. I almost never bottom out on blues. Browns are trash however.

>>56523501
u gotta include some girl pics in your post so virgins will actually look at it and reply anon.

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>>56547862

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>>56548104
まぁいいか

>>56548133
>autism: the post

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What was I thinking /g/?

I bought Razer's shitty "mechanical" Blackwidow GamerGreen(tm) keyboard 2 years ago and now all I want to do is get rid of it and buy an actual decent keyboard for typing.

How the fuck can I get my money back on this $200 green piece of shit?

What's a good mechanical keyboard to buy that has a numpad already included?

>>56548799
sell on cl/ebay/local alternative

Das 4C Professional or Code Keyboard?
I want clear switches, there is a Das 4C Professional with clears on massdrop right now. anyone prefer one over the other?

>>56523225
>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
United States
>Preferred switch type
Not sure, I have a Cherry MX switch tester and the only one I ruled out is Blacks. Leaning towards Blues or Browns.
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
No strong preference, I like backlit.
>Previous/current keyboards
None, this will be first mech.

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Does this purchase look alright?

Why do people buy multiple keyboards? Its like they waste their money

>>56549492
I like those key pullers but they are not very durable (especially with DSA)
If you don't have another one on hand, I'd suggest 2, or a metal one

>>56547862
Filco MJ 2 and a Vortex aluminum case.

is the Turtle Beach Impact 500 with Cherry Mx Blue any good?

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Is it worth it to replace my keycaps with the PBT carbon?

>>56549687
Where are those miami caps for sale?
Arent they all sold out?

>>56549861
Nope these are keycaps in produdction and will be sent out by sep 14

>>56549492
Jesus christ how I wish I wasmt born in this shithole, you have to ship everything from other countries here.

One good side is you can find old cherry/alps boards really cheap sold as "white old keyboard"

>>56536555
Corsair strafe rgb cherry mx silent.

>>56550047
I'm in "London The Land of the Wage Slaves", you work from 9 to 5 and hardly get any time to yourself, drowning in depression and sadness

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>PBT
>Dye Sub
>Black on Black
>Cheap
it's perfect and they'll probably never stock it again. I spent 70 dollars on my keyboard, how am I supposed to justify dropping another 70 just for some damn caps?

how are gateron greens?

>>56550561
Im in Warsaw, its the same here except computer stores have fuck all and youre lucky if they have two or three razer/roccat boards

Also "no mudslimes" is a myth, we have slavslimes which are just as stinky

>>56548026
Are blues really uncomfortable or just noisy?

I plan on converting a mx black board to blue; blacks are a bit too stiff for my taste and I'd like some tactile and auditive feedback.

>>56551816
Loved the comfort of the blues, wasn't really fond of the noise, even in my comfy home.
If you want tactile switches but no click, I'd recommend clears over browns. I have the latter and hate those.

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>>56551261
>Also "no mudslimes" is a myth, we have slavslimes which are just as stinky
are they doing terrorism tho

>>56552177
> implying terrorism is worse than squatting

>>56552177
>that keyboard

>>56552177
Haha what a faggot

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>>56552657
thx

>>56552177
Instead of bombing themself and raping someone every couple months, they're gonna break something like bus stop, stole your phone or beat you up at night and fill whole bus with stench of a homeless guy mixed with puke-flavor beer every other day.

Whichever you prefer I guess.

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>>56552746
fake industrial

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>>56552784
well that just sounds like regular old minorities

>>56552793
yeah and i paid less than $100
shit is so cash
i didn't even need to bolt mod that one.

>>56552833
>well that just sounds like regular old minorities
Now imagine whole country genetically being like minority

Anyway, not to offtop much, are there any swith testers with soldered pins etc ready to program and use? Like a numpad with every button different switch. It seems like a very simple idea and I've seen couple people here mentioning that as their project but I've never seen one ready to buy

What keycaps would go nicely with the majestouch 2 or is the keycaps already good enough?

>>56553184
any GMK

>>56553191
maybe not being a faggot

Has anyone tried operating a mechanical keyboard but without any keycaps equipped? How was it?

>>56553448
hmm I think ill give it a try

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>>56553448
Feels like shit to he honest

>>56553381
yes
buy GMK

>>56553448
Yeah, I've typed on my Novatouch's stems a couple times while I was in the middle of changing keycap sets (shitposting waits for no man). I'd describe it as "possible", I guess.

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Has anyone used KeyTronic foam and foil switches before? I found a keyboard for 10 dollars online and it does not explain the feel of the switches

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>>56549521
Because money wasn't made to be spent sensibly

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This worth 10 dollars when i dont know a shit about the switches?

>>56553773
It feels worse then a rubber dome. I have an old wayne terminal that uses something similar

>>56553844
How does something feel worse than rubber domes?

>>56553866
Any linear switch or MX Browns.

>>56553819
I'd say it's worth at least 10$ just for the layout and look, even if it's not mechanical. Does it click when you press it?

>>56553866
I think it might be the age, but it feels like you are typing on a sponge. There is no tactile feedback what so ever, which even rubber domes have. Luckily the keyboard beeps every time a switch actuates. Also it has some of the nicest key caps I've ever seen in my life. They are over 30 years old and when I first found it they were covered with 10 years of dust and grease, but they still look brand new and feel great

Anyone had any experience with this?
Good/bad?

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/UNI0P4A

I'm looking for the cheapest Model M mimicking keyboard (with USB).