GET STOKED: NEW ELEMENTARY IS OUT!

>>56515727
your operarting system is fucking shit

>>56515812
Linux isn't shit you stupid idiot. Go back to using that currynigger designated Winshit.

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>>56515819
I never said Linux was shit you stupid retard

>>56515836
Sure thing, Pajeet.

>>56515851
kill yourself

I'm going to put this on the bull's thinkpad tonight

>>56515819
but Linux is shit

k.

>>56515869
Why? I love my life! My life's fucking great... unlike yours... you have the need to shit on others on a mongolian embroidery board.

>>56515727
>>56515727
will this one run on a mac? last version doesnt run on macbook pro

>>56515922
Your a fucking retard, all he was saying is that elementary is shit and he's right

>GNOME 3
hahahahahahahahah wtf

>>56515851
he's right and you're an idiot

>>56515948
>Your a fucking retard, all he was saying is that elementary is shit and he's right
>>56516000
SAMEFAGS
It's just Ubuntu underneath you fucking retard.

>>56515819
>your operarting system is fucking shit

>Linux isn't shit
>linux
>operating system

wow the elementary os shill doesn't even know what an operating system is

>>56516011
don't make me screencap and expose your autism for the nthn time in your sorry life

Instead of making an OS

Why not make a DE and publish a suite of apps instead of trying to be everything for everyone.

>>56515727
Are they still guilt-shaming you if you don't donate?

>>56515727
delete this thread lol

It's fucking ugly.

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>>56516044
>autism
If anyone here is autistic, it's you. You're probably Gentoo/Arch level autstic.

>>56516011
you mean debian right?

>>56515819
>>56515836
>>56515851
>>56515869
>>56515948
>>56516011
>>56516044
>>56516106
Get a load of these guys

>>56516129
It's actually Ubuntu but Ubuntu is based off Debian.

It's turtles all the way down.

>>56516134
>>>/trash/

>>56516020
Linux is an operating system you idiot, OS = kernel.

>>56516106
>no u
crafty argument there

>linux technical underbelly with OSX surface design
is this "our" distro?

>>56516188
>is this "our" distro?
pretty much. every time I see desktop threads, 60% of desktops are ppl trying to emulate OSX. at least Elementary does a decent job at that.

The fucking mobile site lags while scrolling.

GG

oh shit downloading now. Gonna VM it first

>>56516212
>The fucking mobile site lags while scrolling.
OS/broswer/CPU

it's smooth as silk here.

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>>56515727
How much does it cost?

>>56516258
>https://elementary.io/
Free. It's Linux. Just put 0 into that box & download.

Yospos bitch

>>56516060
they never guilt shamed anyone as I recall. You just type 0 and downlaod

>>56516134
its just a shill, chill

>>56516212
Works on my phone

>>56515727
i thought ELEment'ry O's died a couple years ago

>>56516175
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>56515727
or maybe I could use a real linux distribution instead

thanks

>>56515819
linux is more popular in India than america,
stupid wh*te

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>>56515727
What's the point of this

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>>56516309
what's your definition of a real distro?

>>56516332
xkcd reference

>>56516297
I'm talking about the kernel, not the distributions faggit.

>>56516332
>Capture.png
it's called design, Pajeet. get rid of that Winshit OS that doesn't respect your freedoms and privacy and install a real OS.

>>56516332
to irritate me specifically every time i see it

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>>56516243
>OS/broswer/CPU
Sure, if a site is slow, it's your computer that is not powerful enough :) It's totally not due to horrible web design with tons of unnecessary JavaScript and high-resolution images.

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>>56516341
>what's your definition of a real distro?
He's probably an Arch autist. You know... ppl who think that if they waste 2 hrs installing some shit BY FOLLOWING DIRECTIONS from some wiki and COPY/PASTING commands, they're somehow better than you.

They think that wasting your time on pointless shit is somehow important. They are mostly NEETs with no real jobs so taking care of their OS and constant babysitting gives the purpose in life.

Just ignore them and feel sorry for them.

>>56516357
>Being this triggered by a distro

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>>56516417
slow down there bub, you might spill your spaghetti

>>56516011
That's why it's shit, Ubuntu is good but this pos is totally unnecessary

>>56516339
Athough I support the ideas of the fsm, Linus clearly has the better arguments here, Open Source still sucks.

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>>56516394
:)

>shilling

>>>/trash/

>>56516435
Found an Arch autist right there. Didn't take you long to expose yourself and your worthless dayjob: upgrading your distro.

>>56516458
>What is cache

>>56516394
I'm browsing from a firefox window that Ubuntu gave me when I clicked on "learn more" on one of those slideshows when you're installing an OS, and the site loaded for me in 2 seconds. It's probably your internet or your torrent client that is causing you grief.

>>56515727
Does Elemenetary offer anything that you can't find in the official MATE spin of Ubuntu, which can be configured to use an OSX-style dock with a flip of a switch, and now has a HUD-like search function built in?

>>56516480
Yeah, it's more polished than MATE and it actually works.

>>56516496
That sentence means absolutely nothing. Did you understand the question, or does eOS really not offer anything?

>>56516480
I'm not the one with issues ("mobile site lags while scrolling"), I'm just pointing out why it's an issue.

The site loads 5 MB of data, images that are basically photos as PNG. Not only that, also tons of JavaScript. It's not a surprise that weaker computers (such as cheap mobile phones) will struggle when scrolling on that site.And that is just horrible web design. But I don't blame them in particular, it's something that unfortunately is the norm these days.

>>56515727
Contribute to a real distro and stop wasting resources. You have your choice of Debian and Fedora. Everything else is a small-time meme.

>>56516357
A real OS such as?

>>56516610
one where you compile everything from source (even though you dont know how to change or modify the source code) :)

>>56516417
Explain why it's pointless.

PS it takes like half hour you autist.

>>56516531
See I just tried accessing the site from this bulky ZTE phone with almost no RAM and the page loaded in 3 seconds. I bet he ran out of high-speed data because his network is shit and he doesn't connect to wifi whenever he's home.

>>56516417
I was actually just thinking something like xubuntu, but yeah if you use arch you're cool guy

elementary OS is fucking retarded, though. just buy a mac if you're that much of a faggot

>>56516633
Okay, could I run proper software such as Photoshop CC or 3DS Max on it natively with the same performance as on Windows?

>>56516647
considering my 1M/s-at-best home connection, even ignoring all overheads it wouldn't be possible for me to load the page in 3 seconds

gnome 3 or elementary?

>>56516652
>Xubuntu
>literally Ubuntu with the Xfeces desktop slapped on and a few shitty gnome 2 apps installed instead of the standards
>a real distro

>>56516669
no but you wouldnt have the time to anyways because youll be too busy reading tutorials on how to add basic functionally to panels for your tiling wm :)

>>56516714
its called pantheon

>Try to mimic OSX
>OSX change completly their style
>Now this piece of shit looks outdated

HAHAHA Memelentary a shit

>>56516714
what do you mean 'or'?

>>56516669
What's your profession?

>>56516713
Yeah, I said originally, shitty network.

>>56516724
Fedora if you like GNOME. If you like the Ubuntu ecosystem, regular Ubuntu.

>>56516739
bitch

>>56516714
GNOME > * as far as desktops go
Ubuntu > * as far as desktop operating systems go
therefore pick between default Ubuntu and default Fedora depending on what you like

>>56515727
What the fuck with this dock on the bottom screen ? That's not very useful.

>>56516730
I meant DE, pantheon or gnome 3 - which one is better?

>>56516820
Try both and decide for yourself, bitch.

>>56516718
yeah

>>56516820
pantheon

>search for files in slingshit
>get first result for scratch text editor
nice search functionality

>>56516841
Bitch.

>>56516610
If it can't run professional software from adobe and the like, then it's not a real OS

>>56516915
>Adobe
>software written for the consumer market
>rather than written under contract for a real company
>professional software

>>56516964
MEMEs aside, I'd love to move away from windows or OSX but I need to have a competent video editing software to use.

>>56516861
are you very angry now

>>56517050
https://www.lwks.com/

>>56515727
How's their package manager and repo size? I wouldn't mind switching, but the AUR is just too damn appealing.

>>56515727
Looks like a mac clone
Nty

>>56517050
Ubuntu's feature tour brags to me that there exists an open-source video editor called "pitivi". Have you tried it?

>>56517128
The AUR isn't a repo you douche.

>>56517148
The Arch User Repository isn't a repository? Good to know.
Now answer the question. Even without the AUR, Arch's repo is massive.

>>56517130
no, will look into it

>>56517066

Does that work on Elementary OS?

>>56515727
aww sheit
downloading and restarting web server for dis!
took too long

>>56517128
It's based on Ubuntu so it's the same as that.

>>56517173
Is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea democratic? And define massive. If it had everything you need in it, why do you even have the AUR enabled?

>>56516915
>If it can't run professional software from adobe and the like, then it's not a real OS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqumdhqy8Uw
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCG4daPvuVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2YYio6MEOU

>>56517189
>Does that work on Elementary OS?
Elementary OS is based on ubuntu so it generally can run whatever runs on ubuntu.

Anybody running this on a t420?

>>56517251
okay, thanks

>>56515727

eOS looks comfy and doesn't come with a lot of bloated shit like ubuntu

you can't save files to the desktop on elementary right?

>>56516310
>according to LinuxIndiaDaily

>Llama Drama
im out

>>56516915
>an operating system is defined by the software that runs on it

>>56517299
>muh bloat
if you have more than 2GB RAM and 20GB HD space this is literally a non-issue.

>>56517234
>click on video
>read the comments
>everyone complaining that it isn't stable

Try again, autist fag.

>>56517412
2gb.

most linux light distros run fine under 512mb of ram, just like winxp

>>56517443
If you're talking light like Puppy Linux and Crunchbang(RIP), maybe, but 512MB can only give you a word processor at a time on the lightest modern Linux distros.

>>56516370
Seconded.

>>56517438
>one company pays another company to flood a video that threatens the company product's monopoly with inflammatory comments
It's like you believe Rick Harrison actually has a friend who is an expert on literally any object shown to him.

>>56516060
you dont have to donate. take the autism and dick out of your ass

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>>56517412
More bloat = more bugs = more unexpected interruptions = less work done for a piece of time.
So bloat is literally more than a problem. It's core of all problems exactly.

>>56517504
I know. but I'm talking about OS only

look, how is possible for a damn OS to be slow with more than 2gb of ram.
like all those new asus laptops with win10 that are doing nothing and stutters.

I still use Xp in some machines even if the have more than 2gb of ram.
3.5 at max

the run insanelly fast.

>no loading shit on folders.
>no loading searching shit.
>no fuckload of useless services

it just does what it needed

>>56515727
Was waiting for a reason from a no Linux experience shit to switch so here it is

>>56515727
This is what Mac OS should have been.

Also, this release includes the second gen of Webkit with multiprocess support like Safari.

i think g hates elementary os because its the pretty and just works version of linux

>>56517634
On XP that may make sense, but on Linux RAM works a completely different way. Because all RAM is used at once and assigned as needed, the amount of RAM only dictates how many things you can do at once, and not the speed at which you do any of them.

>>56516771
>therefore pick between default Ubuntu and default Fedora depending on what you like
Default Ubuntu uses Unity which isn't Gnome

>>56517728
Yeah but Fedora uses GNOME by default and you should use that if you like GNOME. If you care about all the bells and whistles Ubuntu has to offer, just use Ubuntu.

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>>56517299
It comes with just different kind of bloated shit.

>>56517746
>Yeah but Fedora uses GNOME by default and you should use that if you like GNOME. If you care about all the bells and whistles Ubuntu has to offer, just use Ubuntu.
Why not use Ubuntu Gnome and get both?

>>56517763
Because Ubuntu is horrible for GNOME, because they meddle with the GNOME stack to make it function better with Unity.

>>56517718
practically the same thing in windows.
but I want to complain about the OS being slow while doing nothing,

well whatever.

Fuck

off

Go call someone else a thief

sooo

how does this compare to apricity os?

better to an apple clone built off of ubuntu or arch?

>>56517699
I personally respect elementary team for developing pantheon and some apps such as player and midori. If "elementary project" is just a way to draw attention at their work, then that's nice. If they considering entire project as something more than that so I admit they just stupid.

I had Freya for some time on my laptop. It's fast and simple as hell. Very sleek and clean. I liked it a good bit but I had to go back to windows for school.

>>56516339
Newfag question: what embedded applications is he talking about in
>Linux alone is an operating system that can be used in various applications without any GNU software whatsoever. Embedded applications come to mind as an obvious example.

Does it use wayland or mir yet?

>>56517910
Basically, anything that runs an OS that's not thought of as a normal consumer computer.
Routers. Drones. Smart Lightbulbs. Car software. Autopilot for airplanes and missiles.

Note that I'm not saying they all run Linux, just that there are ones that do

>>56517871
They consider the project as more than that.
https://elementary.io/developer

>>56516647
The only reason to disable mobile data/connect to WiFi should be a service on your LAN.

Switch providers.

Have they fixed the settings program? Or is it still a clone of OS X's shitty one

>>56518001
I do most of my operating system tasks and file management over SSH and SFTP from the comfort of the living room. Besides my internet is faster than anything my phone carrier provides. Therefore, why wouldn't I connect to wifi when I'm home and keep my data for when I'm not?

>>56518043
Most Linux settings programs are just OSX knockoffs

>>56515727
Do they offer a liveUSB option, or am I just forced to install without trying it?

>>56515727
am i able to use mpv on it?

i don't use an os that doesn't let me install mpv

>>56518200
There exists a Linux distro that actively prevents you from compiling software?

>>56518224

yes, gnu trisquel

i can't compile an updated version on it

>none of Windows' software compatibility
>none of GNU/Linux's customization or simple extensibility via scripting
>looks exactly like an uglier derivative of OS X's desktop

We've found it: the ultimate normie Facebook OS.

>>56517963
Thank you.

>>56518224
is there a way to stop linux distros asking for password everytime they want to do something?

mint on my Sister's laptop cuz for some reason w7 goes slow as fuck
she only uses internet so is ok

>>56518317
Of course, but if you don't trust your sister with the root password, why would you trust her with root functions?

>>56516175
OS sits on top of the kernel, you dumb fuck.

>>56517234
>WHOLE PILE OF HALF-ASSED SHIT
how many of those toy applications were actually used to make movies or make money in some other ways?

no professional uses that shit. it's unstable, doesn't work and crashes... and it also lacks tons of features.

all that shit is good for fooling retards into thinking that Loonix is a viable OS.

>>56518284
Are you sure that is not just an error? mpv is a GPLv2 video player, and a high quality one at that. GNU would probably recommend it themselves.

>>56518367
>wrong statement + insult = correct statement
Just buy a mac you cheapskate.

>>56518390

they recommend a shitty old version (like 2.3 or whatever the fuck). i tried compiling a new version but it wouldn't work once it was done compiling.

>>56518379
>toy applications
One of the videos was about how to get Adobe Photoshop running correctly in Wine. Software like Blender is also used professionally, and even high end industry tools like Siemens NX have official Linux desktop ports.

Just admit that you don't give a shit and hate it on a personal level. You have no real argument.

>>56518361
she knows the password.
the problem is that shit ask for the password to open some software or install shit from the store.

the password is 123 by the way and still annoys her.

>>56518379
No professional spends hundreds of dollars on trve software either. They get their friends or a company to write software specifically for them.

>>56517438
>>56518379
No need to be hostile, i just presented evidence that the original claim is false, does that make you upset?
Let's assume for a moment that you guys are right and linux is not viable: in what way having less viable options is something positive for you?, in what way having more viable options affects you negatively to try to deter people from using those alternatives?

>>56518441
Tell her to figure it out herself then see if the 123 annoys her still.

>>56518422
Well, Trisquel was last updated in 2014 and the mpv devs like to keep as current as possible.

>>56518461
Because literally everyone needs the entire Adobe Creative Suite and five CAD tools.

>>56516417
Arch is for babies, real men use gentoo.

>>56518478
I think fixing linux is going to be easier than fixing her.

>>56518495
more like that, long with games, are the few still valid arguments against linux and it surely hurts that those arguments are getting slimmer each day,

>>56518367
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3315730/what-is-the-difference-between-the-operating-system-and-the-kernel

All you had to do was Google it, anon. They aren't the same. OS sits on top.

Remember, downloading open source software without donating is stealing, guys.

>>56518647
shut up OP, Im not going to pay for your shitty distro

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Just installed on a VM, looks smooth

>>56518645
>posts a user-generated answer service as source
>takes what is ultimately an opinion as fact
>even though Dennis Ritchie himself contradicts this

>>56518703
looks like freya and isis/luna, whats different about it?

>>56518317
Nope. Due to how package managers work everything requires a password, as it doesn't differentiate whether you're downloading a hard drive formatter or an app that makes a cow say something on your terminal

I'm hoping Snap apps finally deliver on giving Linux a proper app store. It would be a nice way to bring up consumer adoption.

>>56515727
>tried to put this on a Ideapad 100s to make a qt £100 macbook clone
>don't know what I'm doing
>32-bit efi for a 64-bit cpu
>have to patch kernel for wifi
>no power management drivers
>no fucking audio drivers
reeee fuck my life and fuck cheap laptops

>>56518703
Look closely at the top left corner of the terminal window. Do all the windows have shitty artifacts(or whatever) like that? I like customizing Os's but when they have weird side effects like that its fucking ugly.

>>56518703
it would literally take you like 10 minutes to make ubuntu look like that

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>>56519156
What

>>56519301

I run it on a VM and probably I'm gonna delete the machine pretty soon, so I don't care that much

>>56519156
That's the best you can manage to create a round corner using the X display server. Don't worry, modern distros are migrating to Wayland and coming soon to Ubuntu is Mir.