What went wrong with the Internet?

Normies

it was popularized

>>56512742
normies started using it

Definitely Normies.
The downfall went into full force in the early 2000s.

nothing. just nostalgiafags being cancerous as always

>>56512858
normalfag detected

>>56512858
do you have a facebook account too? tell us all about it

The most glaring invasion of Normies was apparent in online games, most predominantly Counter-Strike. No other game has brought as many Normies online.
Quake before it was still mostly robots.

>>56512906
Fuck you, I'm not a normalfag. I played Counter Strike since the beta and I still play to this day. Suck it.

>>56512742
what didnt desu

>>56512742

Giant conglomerates/monopoly

Apps.

They found the internet box.

JS

>>56512742
Normals.

>>56512928
>I played 1.6 yesterday
>I've played since the beta, fuck I'm old
A real CS player would have quit when shiny pixels were released for GO.

>>56512867
>>56512839
>>56512796
>>56512808
You do realize you're as boring and uninteresting as the rest of the masses? You're not special for being a weeb NEET shut-in that rots his brain in front of a screen all day. You're just as normal as everyone else with the only exception of not having a healthy outdoor routine.

>>56512986
Nice no true scotsman fallacy.
But no, I find CSGO to be a pretty good game. Sure, there are a lot of issues and it doesn't have the flair and the feeling that 1.6 had but it's still a good game. That said, there's no other choice than playing it. 1.6 is dead and everyone plays GO now.

>tfw my steam account is turning 13 in the next couple days

>>56513029
But I do have a healthy outdoor routine

>>56512742
Java[script]
Flash
Shockwave
Non-hand-coded htm files
Frames

>>56513037
>1.6 is dead
>17k players ingame currently
sure, the 18th most played game on Steam right now is dead, right? Thats not including the cracked/non-steam players too.

>>56513061
Social anxiety doesn't make you special either. Thanks for reminding me.

>>56513090
all of them are polaks, turks and ruskies that can't run newer cs games on their toasters

>>56513029
Never said I was interesting.
I said normalfags ruined the internet.

>>56513090
I meant dead, as in, there is no eSports scene anymore. No tournaments, no competition, does the game even get updated anymore?
Also:
>17k players ingame
That's literally nothing.

Also, nobody wants to play on public servers. At least I don't.

>>56512742

Turned into a human intellectual garbage dump. The noise to signal ratio is so skewed you need hundreds of gigantic energy sucking, pollution causing data warehouses to store and sift through all it.

Other than that, nothing. Have to take the good with the bad.

Progress

>>56513091
But I don't have social anxiety (anymore)

>>56513112
Yeah, this too.
I've played 1.6 a couple times lately on pub servers and never have I encountered someone from my country. (Germany)
It was all just russkies.

>>56513122
Because I have no interest in doing so. What a strange question.

>>56513115
You misunderstood. I meant to point out how people use the term "normie" as a way to distance themselves from people that carry out social interaction and go outside once a day. The reality is that those aren't qualifiers to make you normal. Therefore, not doing those things doesn't make you special, which is what /g/ and /r9k/ believes.

the degeneration of the internet happened on aug 1, 2003 when myspace was founded

>>56513206
Not them but normie is a general term if you don't know the basic functions of a computer and buy the yearly apple product you are a normie.

>>56513206
Normalfag doesn't mean "goes outside." It means an insufferable cunt whose entire life and opinions are based on what is trending on Twitter and Facebook. Someone who is constantly using Snapchat to send stupid pictures to other people who send stupid pictures back. Someone who doesn't have any hobbies short of social media and drugs/drinking/partying. Someone who argues with emotional appeals or social shaming instead of logic. Moralfags. The list goes on.

Normalfags, the kinds that populated MySpace and now populated Facebook and Twitter, ruined the internet.

>>56513128
What's the point of fixing a game that doesn't need fixed? Or did you mean content updates as in adding the Revolver, Negev and Bizon to 1.6?

>>56513128
>17k
>literally nothing
>6 million? pfft thats nothing, still plenty more jews to gas

>>56512742

Javascript.

>>56513256
While those are the actions of a large portion of people, I wouldn't say the word 'normal' has much to do with that. Nor does the act of NOT using social media, and buying Apple products as a contrarian to the the masses use makes you different or superior. It makes you an outlier, is what it does, which isn't a good or bad thing.
But this is a website where the culture is to judge others on what tastes they have so I digress. At the end you're still normal person who uses a ThinkPad instead of a Macbook.

>>56513206
What do you mean with "special"? Being a socially awkward neckbeard spending his days watching anime, browsing /g/, reading books about languages that were popular 30 years ago and tinkering with his gentoo/slackware/arch distro isn't exactly what the average person does these days, its not even what the average CS student would do. Dunno what the /r9k/ fags mean when they say "normie", but I use it to describe people who spend most of their time using snapchat/instagram/facebook/whatsapp and who describe working out, partying and meeting friends as a "hobby".

>>56513347
>You're an outlier
>You're a normal person
You can't have both, faggot.

>>56513358
*programming languages

>>56512742
>ITT: Thread derailed by shitposting about vidya and 2 pajeets flinging poo over the definition of 'normie'
saged and reported

>>56513128
>esports

You have to be 18 or older to post here

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>>56512742
Consolidation, the ultimate problem with the rise of social media is the resultant homogenization. The internet grew in objective terms but shrunk culturally.

I'm not sure if pic related is entirely accurate, but the basic problem is there.

>>56513396
esports was a thing even back in the 90s. and most who were old enough to participate in said esports/competition then are far older than 18 now. If you don't know this, you also need to be 18 to post here.

>>56513427
how yahoo survived to this day is still surprising to me. they made the wrong decision at every opportunity.

>>56513365
An outlier is still a mark on the graph. Sure you're not in the bell curve, but you're still on the graph.

>>56513358
Being an extrovert doesn't make you normal. And being an introverted coder doesn't make you abnormal. Not being normal would be mentally ill behavior like being a cannibal or defecating on a plate and consuming your own fecal matter. Again, you seem to think that partaking in alternative interests makes you different and an outsider. It just makes you someone who doesn't have a mainstream interest, which is completely normal.

>>56512928
>I played Counter Strike since the beta
I remember being at a LAN session not long after Counter Strike Beta 2 came out in 1999.
Back then I could not see it yet but I remember a vague feeling of impending doom, no pun intended. This was it. This will attract the Normies.
Lo and behold, there it was. The slow paced nature of Counter-Strike was accessible enough for Chad to understand. People who never wrote a single line of code were suddenly appearing on LAN parties.
I started to go less and less. It was over.

People figured out how to appeal to the masses and what worked in order to make the most money and exposure for their product or company.

Simple marketing. Look at the format of a classified section of a newspaper; it's like that for a reason. They figured out what works the best.

Unfortunately, computers have been reduced to needing next to no intelligence to use, so any Joe Blow can log onto a site and spew his shit opinion, and subscribe to YouTube channels that create such lasting and valuable content like EPIC THUG PRANK IN THE GHETTO ALMOST TURNS FATAL SEXUAL 2016 LIKE SUBSCRIBE COMMENT FOR MORE

It was only a matter of time.

>>56513037
I like GO. But the one thing I can't stand about it is how you can't spam crouch like you could in 1.6.

>>56513473
That depends on your definition of normal, I don't mean normal in a sense of not being a mentally ill degenerate who isn't able to function, but rather in a sense of how far you're away from the average western person in your lifestyle and personality. For example I do work out and use whatsapp, but my lifestyle and personality in a whole is what I described above, except for the neckbeard part. So I'd say thats what most people mean when they call someone a normie.

>>56513473
Are you fucking retarded or what? If you're an outlier then you don't fit the expected results of the data set, therefore you are ~not~ normal. Fuck me you're stupid. I bet you think the only way someone can be anything but a normalfag is psychosis.

>>56513464

Their fatal mistake was hiring that joke of a CEO in 2012. It wasn't succeeding, but it was at least limping along, waiting for someone to come and bandage its wounds. Now it's a corpse on the ground because people trusted a woman to lead the company.

>>56513464
I don't know anything about their strategy, I'm just surprised they or anyone survived Google basically becoming the internet (be honest, how often do you use urls?).

>>56513029
Take psychedelics or study Buddhism and you will understand what people mean when they say Normie.

>All this bitching about how it went wrong.
>No one mentioning how to make it great again.

>>56513584
by removing normans sites and tumblr from the internet's existence

fucking normans get out rooooooo

>>56513561
I don't use google at all, I visit most websites by downloading their source and display them over a sandboxed local network server, if I have to use a search engine I use elinks + tor and duckduckgo. 4chan and linkedin are the only websites I actually directly connect to from my computer.

>>56513584
By creating a new one that isn't user friendly at all.

>>56513584
there's simply too many people

look at all the places with very high human populations. they're all shitholes.

>>56513256
The term you're looking for is pleb, not normal.

money and regulation

>>56513696
Normalfags are always plebs but plebs are not always normalfags.

>>56513696
thats the same m8

>>56513029
You are either a normie in denial or you are just playing dumb.

>>56512796
>Normies
Pretty much this, it got adapted for tech illiterate people.

Normalfags and big companies stealing all kinds of data

>>56513090
>join server
>press mouse1 only to realize that the server fucked up your bindings and the game reconnects to the same server

everytime i hear the word normie used i think of a sperglord with a body pillow making himself to be better than people who have friends and relationships which is pretty cringey desu

>>56513718
Other way around.

>>56513866
>making himself to be better than people
You're just projecting your Normie Narcissism.

>>56513865
>not making your config file read only

>>56513891
No

>>56513804
>Outliers don't have to be accounted for
t. Rajesh Kumar, PhD.

>>56513910
Are you actually defending the practice of an adult man sleeping with a Chinese cartoon body pillow to not be a mentally ill behavior?

>>56513917
this tbqh

>>56513962
Not at all.

>>56513946
>gets told why he is wrong
>pulls out the Indian programmer meme because he can't make a proper refutation

>>56513978
Then there's no such thing as "Normie Narcissism".

>>56513990
He didn't tell me anything. He implied that outliers don't need to be accounted for, which is completely wrong.

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ITT: Normies in denial

>>56512742
Javascript

norman invasion killed the internet

>>56514022
Outlier:
An extreme deviation from the mean.

Anomaly:
1. A person who is unusual.
2. Deviation from the normal or common order or form or rule.

That wasn't so hard.

>>56513464
It is still really big in Japan, not really surprising since they are stuck in the 90s.

>>56513675
This. The real downfall of the internet began when companies like Apple started marketing stuff towards normies.

>>56514078
>An extreme deviation from the mean
Which directly contradicts your assertion that outliers (like /g/) are just normalfags that are a little different.

>>56514003
See, these posters are blindly assuming that anyone using the term "Normie" has an agenda of making themselves appear superior to the alleged "Normies".
That is not the case at all. These posters just project their own narcissism and need for validation onto the robots.
>>56513866
>>56513029

>>56514034
you make it sound like having friends and a social life is somehow a bad thing
back to /r9k/ you dumb frogposter

>>56514117
You still don't understand.
You can have friends and not be a Normie.

>>56514107
>That is not the case at all.
But it is. Go to /r9k/ and see for yourself.

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>>56513584
>No one mentioning how to make it great again.
You have to BTFO Normies.

>neighbors having party
>loud hip hop music
>ruining my sleep
>put empty beer bottles in bag
>break them in my kitchen
>go outside and spread glass by neighbors house on sidewalk
>go back in
>call the cops
>report loud party
>report people throwing bottles on street
>report drug use and underage drinking
>"ok, sir. We're on the way"
>please hurry
>police show up
>party gets shut down
>drunken chad screaming shit postures aggressively at cops
>gets taken to the ground
>pandemonium as cops make more arrests
>normie party goers BTFO
>mfw watching from a crack in my blinds

>>56514135
/r9k/ are normies themselves. Also a lot of them are redditors. Just go to r/4chan and most threads there will be about /r9k/ (and /pol/).

>>56514166
You should post that in /r9k/. They'll appreciate the story.

>>56514166
What a sad little man you are.

>>56512742
Eternal September

>>56514166
Subscribed.

>>56514135
No way you're really this stupid. I will assume troll.

>>56514117
Sounds to me like you're just too stupid too understand what constitutes a normie so you just make silly assumptions. Must be an average IQ thing.

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When the internet started revolving around socialshit for the masses and everyone and their dog had an opinion on anything and could get 5 minutes of fame.

>>56513206
If you need someone to explain the word normie to you, either you are more than likely normal yourself or you're too new to be familiar with the term's usage here. It's just not "he doesn't go outside", "he's an introvert", "he drinks/does drugs" etc. There's much more to that and the best way to learn is to lurk and find out that way. One starting point is "he is autistic". Of course there are real life autists who go outside and talk to their fellow autistic friends on the bus or whatever, and clearly I'm not saying autistic in this sort of sense, but you'll have to figure out how I'm using the term yourself.

If I had to give you another starting point, it would be "he doesn't follow the ever-changing current/biggest trends with his buddies so they all have something to talk about". It absolutely is possible for someone who isn't a normie to have friends, but there's a good chance their friends don't care about the new biggest TV show or film either. A good friend of mine has slowly turned into a normie over the years because of his new friends. He mostly dropped whatever interests he had before he met them and just follows whatever new show or big video game they latch on to, if only so they have stuff to talk about.
So he's currently watching the new Voltron despite not really having an interest in those sort of shows before, wants me to download that Overwatch free trial for this weekend, bought an iPhone if only because all his friends used them, and even though he said he really wanted to play Splatoon with me, he never did more than likely because none of his other friends cared about it. It's incredibly hard talking to him now because I just don't care about most of the stuff he likes and/or don't have the money to keep up. I'm saying all this because I go to a forum which is filled with normals and they all act exactly like this.

There is much more to it than this though. You need to learn it yourself though.

Ads.

I can't complain about normies because having everybody on the internet gave us so much good amateur porn.

I can't complain about social networks either because that stuff is all confined. I don't like facebook so I'm not on it and I don't really have to deal with it. There are Like buttons everywhere but my adblocker deals with that.

Ads are the real cancer of the internet. They were fine in the 90's when they were simple rectangular banner .gif images. Then they evolved into Flash, Java, Javascript, etc. And now we have the clusterfuck that we have today. Then they have the balls to say "waaah your adblocker hurts our profits", so you turn the adblocker off and your device or PC grinds to a halt because of all the bullshit.

Sites that have unblockable adblock warnings and stop you from reading the content get an instant "nope" from me. Sites that are more practical and have simple ads in the form of animated gifs (or the like) get whitelisted.

>>56514310
Sites like adfly must have been created by Satan himself. They're so fucking annoying.

>>56513570
>turning into a Bernie Sanders supporter will turn you into a sperg and you'll lose all social skills.
truer words could not have been spoken

>>56514298
Ah sorry, *"he doesn't drink/do drugs".

>>56514262
The fact normalfags invaded doesn't obviously stop anyone from making great things on the internet but it's limiting in a few aspects:

- since they leverage huge numbers of dumb consumers, normalfags get pandered to and money gets diverted for them

- the network gets increasingly policed and controlled by governments because normalfags can't take the trolling/banter/etc and take everything at face value, they don't have the knowledge to identify criminal activity (they easily fall for phishing, malware ads, viruses etc)

This same phenomenon happened with video games and the arrival of the Wii and casual mobile games, suddenly you have shit like GG, feminists going wild, people getting offended left and right, games getting censored, dumbing down of everything.

>>56513834
>Pretty much this, it got adapted for tech illiterate people.
You can be tech literate and a Normie.

>>56514342
Considering most young normalshits supported Bernie, this makes zero sense. Anyone who hates on psychedelics has either never tried it or is incredibly fear driven and insecure. And no I'm not advocating drug addiction.

>>56513584
>how to make it great again
- Remove facebook
- Remove twitter
- Remove instagram
- Remove Snapchat
- Remove Tumblr
- Take away smartphones and "Apps"
- Bring back webforums like newgrounds and something awful
- Purge the last 6+ years of Reddit
- Take YouTube back to about 2005 and remove Google
- Open source a webcrawler like google
- Bring back chatrooms

I honestly miss the pack-nigger mentality of raiding webpages and hacking stupid low security shit on the internet. the 90 - early 2000s were the wild west of the web. 4chan was kind of the ESR to this part of the web until 5 or 6 years ago. Since then, it has become a Tripfag/Weeb/Snowflake hangout for degenerates and high-schoolers who smoke weed behind the garage after school.

>>56514440
Let's just say there is a normalcy spectrum.

As an example, John Carmack is on the right of the normalcy spectrum but John Romero is already towards the middle. Someone like Zuckerjew is on the left of the spectrum. Yet all of these people are social in some way.

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>>56514570
>4chan BECAME a weeb hangout

>>56514570
>chatrooms

Man, that's the kind of thing I miss the most from late 90s early to mid 00s they just don't exist anymore.

The only thing I still have is IRC but that's feeling like it's slowly dying off. t f w

>>56514570
>- Take away smartphones and "Apps"
Agree to everything but the above. Apps & Smartphones are not the problem they're both convenient, useful and (nowadays) powerful; but apps surely need to be purged. If we remove everything from above then most normies apps would be gone.

>>56514570
you forgot one
> remove all desktop enviroments

>>56514630
>Apps & Smartphones are not the problem
lol

>>56514632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvqe0i1gGt4

>>56514440
Turning into a hippie makes you nothing but degenerate trash. I doesn't make you "enlightened" or whatever you fags call it.

>I drop acid, no normie here reeeeee xdxd

you are a typical college age kid if you drop acid/go to fests and feel "enlightened"....

>>56514659
>not flashing your smartphone to run a full distro.
It's a matter of perspective.

>>56514607
I don't know any good IRC channels anymore desu, there was once one for the local hacker community but it started dying off after 2007. I have literally nobody to talk to, all the students in my CS course are over privileged upper class hipsters listening to nigger music while programming with Java on the latest apple laptop, sitting around in starbucks all day.

>>56514704
know that lonely feel anon

kind of losing it a bit

Jews, it was a fun project till jews took it over to get even more shekels.

>>56514570
To be honest, 4chan was considered normalfag tier when it appeared, this is in contrast to forums like somethingawful or newsgroups, irc etc.

>>56512839
No. It happened around '10, when social media became huge.

>>56514570
So you want a time machine?

>>56514677
Nice assumptions. Not my fault you are a coward.

>>56514743
A reset button would be more than enough.

>>56514599
>this is actually what I mean
4chan has always been a weeb site. BUT it wasn't so fucking projected. When the topic of Anime came up 4chan was very well versed and there was heated discussion and mostly the boards stayed to themselves. /a/ would stay on /a/ and the cancerous desudesu shit stayed on /b/

there was a time when cross posting was rare. /b/ was not much like /g/ besides basic format. now you got niggas starting porn threads on this board.

>>56514743
How else am I gonna find an IBM 5100?

>>56514723
4chins went to shit right when that fox news report turned it into nothing more than a "zaney /b/ xd randum" magnet

>>56514743
yes please

Retail is what happened

>>56514766
This.

Weebdom underwent the cycle from being a mark of shame/niche for weirdos -> "n-notice me senpai xdd" norman turdshit

>>56512742
Trying to make it as much like television as possible. Everything is based around video now.

Even 4chan has been hurt a lot by gif and webm files becoming the standard.

>>56514766
>cross posting was rare
Not really. /b/ tended to do raids to other boards and everyone would tell retards to "go back to /b/" constantly.

I don't remember what happened to that board though, it got severely neutered after a while and lost all its edginess. You don't even hear about it anymore, it's all trap posting now.

>>56514766
Also "le anonymous fuck the system xDD" ruined everything, I found 4chan searching for a website to discuss anime, most of the fags using /soc/, /int/, /b/ probably found it by watching anonymous youtube documentaries (after this laughable #opparis shit /g/ started turning into a /v/-tier shithole as well)

>>56514836
>Even 4chan has been hurt a lot by gif and webm files becoming the standard.
What are you talking about anon?

>>56514757
>Not my fault you are a coward.
what because i'm not sitting on 4chan saying:
>weed lmao xdxd i'm so enlightened unlike you normies

I was just like you once kid but then I got a job. you are as normie as they come. the contrast to a normie isnt a burnout it's a sperg

>>56514166
I need to remember this one, I have some chads that have moved in next door to me and every weekend i get no sleep, The chad party starts at 12 and doesn't end until 4AM.

>>56514166
>>mfw watching from a crack in my blinds
>no snacks
anon pls

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>>56514859
THERE ARE MOVING PICTURES ON AN CHINESE IMAGE BOARD REEEEEE

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>>56514919
Sounds like an oxymoron to me

>>56514843
> /b/ tended to do raids to other boards and everyone would tell retards to "go back to /b/" constantly.

Right but then the cancer would go back to /b/ it never stayed that long.

The average /b/ raid went like this:
>roll a number for which board we should raid guise
>/g/ got picked
>people who didn't care about Technology would come here and post "how do i hack computers"
>they would screen shot and post on /b/
>after getting little/no replies or they got banned
>they would read the typical (non consumerist) tech enthusiasm on this board. They wouldn't really understand the threads so they would either lurk until they learned (and posted relevant discussion points) or leave back to /b/

now /g/ is:
>the iPhone is gay!
>1500+ replies

you can see how this would attract the non-tech crowd from /b/

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>>56513605
>fucking normans

>>56513584
>great again
We can't stop normies from using it. But we can avoid the eternal september by using communities centered around precise interests that are not friendly to newcomers unless they learn the etiquette.

Basically chans are the current incarnation of BBS/usenet culture and as long as we try our hardest to hold up the lurk moar policy we'll be.

If we fail the good people will go somewhere else and continue the cycle.

>>56512742
It's still good if you know where to go. The eternal September hasn't ruined quite everything yet.

>>56515146
4chan should block all IPs from posting that haven't regularly been visiting the website for at least 6 months.

>>56515236
Nah, we need newfags, oldfags have a tendancy to die.

But we need to be relentless with people who don't lurk.

>>56515257
Mods seem to sleep though, just look at the catalog, its full of product review threads and /v/tier bullshit

>>56515286
There are no rules about moderation.

What I'm talking about can only happen on a board culture level. /g/ has, for all intents and purposes, no mods remember?

>>56515236
>people never move or change their IPs
stop being stupid

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>>56514992
>>56515146
Well we are in endless summer after all. All the kids can post at any time thanks to mobile shitware cancer, there is no way back now. You can't integrate that many new people into a culture of a place unless people are really committed to uphold the "netiquette" and spirit of the board and different people have different opinions of what a board should be.

Many newfags think /g/ is just a shitposting board for the new razer gear and smartphones, I arrived here when it was the loli age and people had more technical threads and even some projects of their own (4chanx, appchan as an example).

Things change.

>>56512742
Social media happend.

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>>56515424
My only fear is that BBS/Usenet/imageboard culture will end up dying because we can't integrate enough new blood

I hold anonymous speech dearly and would be more than just sad to see it go.

Hopefully we can perpetuate the spirit of the Internet for as long as possible.

Just make a website with stuff on it you like.

>>56515496
This.

A million times this. Community is important, but the ultimate form of Ye Olde Interwebs Spirit is that.

Sharing shit you like with everyone without restriction.

>>56514570
Somethingawful is still the best forum in the internet ad far as quality goes.

reddit and twitter

>>56512742
They let speds like you use it.

>>56515236
They rather allow tor and ban everyone not using it.

>>56515567
>by today's standard
that's not saying much

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>this happens on a regular basis in Europe
>citizens aren't rioting over it, and many actively support it, and even snitch

The internet is as good as dead.

Nothing.

>b-but muh normies

Internet was created by normal fags, deal with it.

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>>56515899
>

>>56515995

All made by normies.

>>56516157
>IETF
>normies
apex kek

>>56516403

>The first IETF meeting was attended by 21 U.S.-government-funded researchers on 16 January 1986.
>U.S.-government-funded researchers

They sure weren't some basement dwellers.

>>56516620
>he thinks the basement dwelling meme is literally true
Let me guess, you think we have neckbeards as well?

If you think researchers are normies, you've never ever frequented a lab.

>>56516654

We might have a different definition of 'normie', m8.

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>>56513584
Getting rid of "easy to use" smartphones for starters.
Second is killing twitter, whatsapp, facebook and instagram.
Un-monetize youtube.
That should put a stop to most of the cancer.

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>>56516690
Well originally, "normalfags" were just the people who don't frequent this place, but overtime it's come to mean "mainstream people" as in the kind of people who don't live in the fringes of society, be those of knowledge or of condition.

Robots tend to use it to mean "anyone who isn't as ostracized as me" but it's not a useful definition so i don't acknowledge it.

Pic related is the metric i go by for "not being a normie"

>>56516778

By that definition, sure, normalfags ruin everything.

Sorry anon, it just really triggers me when people imply that internet should only cater to their needs.

>>56513649
How does one go about this efficiently?
This is what RMS does isnt it?

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Why don't you all just retreat to the Deep Web?

>>56514166
Doing god's work,anon

>>56515494
no no no. first of all the facebook generation have the lowest attention span of anyone. So they wont like that culture. second of all you dont want those people there. Do you really want a bunch of no talents trying their hardest to fit in?

>>56518994
You generalize. I know quite a few millenials, and some are no worse than oldfags were before chanology.
What I want is for this place to remain counter culture, but for that we still need a constant amount of new blood.

But that we got already anyways.

What we need is to deal with it properly and enforce the fucking board culture instead of letting /g/ become only a consumer electronics board.

I mean fuck it's either that or going the way of /tech/ and having to deal with /pol/ in every thread.
So far the only place left where i'm sure to discuss technology is lainchan and that's both slow and circlejerky as fuck.

>>56512742
its been shit since http. I remember when the web was brand new and all you could find was horrible blogs and that one internet mall that will change the future of shopping. had like 10 items on it. Http has always been garbage and was always meant for advertising and doing normie shit. so you could say its always been shit if you consider the "web" the internet.

>>56519154
>posting on an HTTP service

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It went wrong when:
>Altavista was overtaken by Google
>Transition between Web 2.0 and Web 3.0
>Pop ups / ad revenue

At least we have Adblock now though

>>56519326
I cant fully say its worthless but its pretty damn close and the reason why I like this format.

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>>56513584
We go back to web 1.0

>>56521568
Web rings!

Nothing?

>normies
They made workstations cheap, majority of you wouldn't have had cat shit from 1995 - 2005 if it weren't for "normies" you hate so much

>consolidation of websites
If you'd stop jerking your fucking wannabe oldfaggot dick you'd actually remember how shitty search engines were and how terrible websites were with literally no information. Who the fuck made you king and can dictate when a niche is too large? we can't have a gaming site according to you, we have to have 30 websites per console, or how finely grained should it be? fuck you.

>commercialization
Corporations are smarter than you and make products you want. You now have a private tailored service where in your case only tech products show up, but you've lied to yourself for a whole decade by now and insisted that this is violating your privacy while you rage at radio and billboard ads. Remember when you had to mail order a thinkpad?

you losers selectively ignore all of the modern things you couldn't live without, you would literally shit your pants without youtube and wikipedia, but at the same time you pretend to be all old and jerk your chain about how you're some shepherd of the internet because you think you showed up first.

No matter how early you showed up there was always someone there before you. You were the normies first who invaded their websites. If it were up to your typical vocal usenet piece of shit, who hasn't had more than a 40 second conversation with someone since the 80s, we'd be relegated to local BBSes only because they can't handle the entire world and want to circlejerk with 3-4 people forever. Okay so you're anti social and still can't make it when you have social media and the entire internet trying to talk to you but you just drone it out with your i-was-here-first BS.

If you aren't making money by now with some sort of online business or service, just fuck off back to your BBS circlejerk, you don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about.

>>56522617
wew

Cyka bylat comrade, play dust2 and bomb site b

>>56514570
When it's all boiled down, you're literally just the next generation of luddites and you can never let yourself mentally leave the 00s. Just like you make fun of your grandma who has been fighting windows for 25 years and still can't figure out the start button. You think you're all cool and an oldfag like that means anything but you are just the modern version of your grandma. You roll your eyes when she says "Well back in my day we had typewriters" and fought computers for two decades but now you're sitting in a cafe seeing some "kid" with a smartphone asking you about your flip phone and you'd roll your eyes at EVERYTHING MADE AFTER 2005. This isn't about service X, service Y, you're just the new luddites, this is fear, you can't accept anything outside your shitty little decade because you've failed at everything and just want to stay there forever in a time when you still had potential and you didn't throw it all away for nothing.

Penny to a pound that 10 minutes in your gay little neo 2005 era environment you'd freak out, and you'd forsake your "wild west" all over again if it ever could happen.

By the way, as a "true" wannabe vocal oldfag, you should see your gay little list as containment. They'd have nowhere else to go and would go to 4chan. Of course you want the end result of this to just be that they don't use the internet at all, because you were here first and think you're better than everyone else including the 80s usenet turds saying the same shit towards you.

>>56522617
>>56522719
>>56522704

remember to ignore justin

just kidding, where's ebenezer, so we can continue this wannabe oldfag circlejerk of 24 year olds pretending to be 35

>>56522719
>this much denial about eternal september

You sure this has nothing to do with normies invading traditional nerd spaces?

>>56512796
/bread

>>56514396
and you can go back to rabbit

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>>56512742
I think the biggest problem society faces today is a combination of publicized social media where censorship has become the norm and overall tech illiteracy is widespread.

>public social media
I'm fine with things like Kik where people can have civil group chats or easily talk to friends over wifi if they live in a area where cellular service is limited and expensive. You can also talk to people from around the world without paying outrageous international fees. There's also 4chan. That's the good side of social media. Then you have sites like Facebook, Twitter, etc. that are known for bringing out selfishness and degeneracy. It's for this reason I also avoid /b/ and /pol/ like the plague. The internet brings out the worst in people when you allow them to run wild with little or no rules. This is why those people need containment areas, not entire sites.

>censorship
It might sound hypocritical at this point, but I'm also against heavy censorship, especially for the sake of people's feelings. I don't believe in hate speech, only hateful actions. Voicing an opinion is not a crime. That being said, I think that free speech should be allowed as long as it's not doing massive damage, such as inciting a race riot as many on the cancer boards here have tried to do. What I hate even more than that is what Facebook recently did. They asked a journalist to remove or edit the iconic "napalm girl" photo where a young naked girl is running for her life after her village was bombed. There's a huge difference between an important historical photograph and pedos sharing fap material, and SJWs fail to realize this. Censorship of human history, good or bad, makes it more difficult for our children to learn from our mistakes and build on our success. Today it's a photo, tomorrow it's important historical documents. Even some Wikipedia pages aren't safe. The internet is nearly all of mankind's collective knowledge available in seconds. It's worth fighting for.
>1/2

Centralization of services.

>>56523492
>2/2

>tech illiteracy
I don't expect everyone to be able to install Arch on their own or to be able to take apart their PC and put it back together, but I don't think it would be unreasonable for people to learn a thing or two about the devices they use daily. Many people, grown adults, think that phones run on unicorn farts or don't know what a kernel is. These things need to be taught in schools now that the internet and computers are an important part of work and private life. I think that people need to be taught basic troubleshooting techniques like rebooting, googling stuff, and uninstalling/deleting unused programs and files instead of bitching about lack of storage. I really don't think this a lot to ask of people using computers every day. A person asking what USB means is like a toddler asking how a door hinge works. This needs to change.

>>56515567
SHUT UP

Google and fagbook

>>56514659
less facebook and social media
more tricorder and phone

>>56516620
plenty of research labs are in basements

>>56523492
censorship is why we dont know shit about the past. The winners write the history books. and guess what. they make themselves look like saints and paint the conquered as whatever they feel like. right now history is being censored. We dont get to see what is really happeneing in the middle east. we only see what they want us to. Humans have been destroying history as they make it for millennia this is just the current iteration. People in power have an uncanny ability to give no shits about where we are headed and its in their best interest to keep as much truth from the people as possible.

>>56524801
OMG THE HOLOCAUST DIDN'T HAPPEN

>>56524826
we won wwII bruh, we wrote that shit in. that was one of the saintly things America did remember? saved all the jews that ever lived.

>>56513029
t. Normie

>>56518668
What is this? Post the complete image.

>>56512742
It became more affordable. The Wild West users were of a certain strata in society and followed netiquette. That's impossible when you let everyone in. And no, I'm not calling out normies. The normie professionals were never a problem.

>>56525630
computers used to be something only a very few people used. it was 1400 for a very bare bones pc in the 90's and you had to be an enthusiast to even enjoy using one.a stark contrast to the average internet user these days which are mostly mobile phone users trying to justify thier 60 dollar a month data bill. Posting just to use your data cap and whatnot.

>>56512742

Censorship

When and why did websites become so bloated?

>>56525927
people getting paid by advertisers. its why everything goes to shit. advertisers start out by wanting some of your thunder so they say hey I'll give you money for letting totally unrelated shit get put onto your channel. 5 years later you are really enjoying that free money and it hasnt had one downside. they havent asked for one thing from me and I'm making money. then they start with the requests. then they become demands. and finally threats of pulling your money if you dont comply. or they are clickbait sites and thrive on it.

>>56513570
Drugs are literally one of the most normalfag things a person can do.

Fuck off with your pseudo-intellectual bullshit