Macfags will defend this.

INNOVATIVE

Can someone give me all the highlights of the keynote?

Imma go full shill up in here and argue that if you check user data, most people don't even use the headphone jack on their phone to listen to music

just off personal experience, most people who you see with a phone day to day, do not have headphones attached to them, this adapter is really only an inconvenience to a minority of users

#JackOff

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Nah fuck that I'm getting an Android phone next. This is just another nail on the apple coffin. First the 100MB download limit over mobile data and now this.

>>56485670
try it this way
what percent of the headphones you see do you suppose are plugged into a phone?

>>56485686

Why didn't you jump off the iOS bandwagon sooner, idiot? The very first time I realized that Apple was removing apps from the app store for dumb reasons (back in the 3G era) I swore I'd never buy another phone that didn't allow me to sideload.

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>>56485915
Mostly hope that things would get better. I was so disillusioned when I say the iPhone 7 keynote. Like dam, they just don't give a fuck anymore. As long as there are a few brainwashed sheep they will shove anything down people's throat. Next they'll probably remove the camera and require a $300 adapter or some shit.

>be me
>in my 96 honda civic
>undrivable lowered suspension
>$1000 head unit with aux jack
>think im a hipster for having the new iPhone
>playing the bangas as I drive along the highway
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mwumw3AD6Q)
>iPhone battery goes flat
>cant charge phone and play music at the same time
>fml

>>56486054
>>56485686
What phone are you lookin at anon?

>>56485686
I remember when I changed over.
Not having to use iTunes alone was worth the change.

>>56485686
>>56486141
I jumped off the android wagon onto iOS when the 6 came out because I thought I'd try something new

I regretted it about 6 months in. Longest fucking contract I've had to experience.

>>56486130
Maybe something from LG or HTC. I don't trust Samsung phones anymore after that exploding battery fiasco.

>>56486112
>96
I drive a 2011 ford and I couldn't do that either with this model. I figure the majority of drivers couldn't

>>56485628
better conector

>>56485670

I see your shill and raise you a counter-shill. The point is that when you want a headphone jack, you won't have one. I only fly once or twice a year, when I do, I'm glad my phone has a fucking headphone jack. If I had some stupid adapter to listen to music there is a 10% chance I am going to find it after not having needed it for 6 months.

>>56485628
No I fucking won't. But then again I've never owned an iPhone, so I'm arguably not full macfag.

>>56485628
I'm a macfag and I'm just relieved I dont have to pay extra for it which i feared they would try to pull

>>56485686
>100MB download limit over mobile data
holy shit is this really a thing??

>>56486510
They probably were going to pull it but realized the backlash would have been too heavy

If you need 3.5mm and charging in your car and can't replace the head unit, Apple has been selling a Lightning connected audio dock for years already. No it's not free but maybe if you're buying a $650 phone you're already used to giving them money.

>>56486510
It's incorporated into the price.

Was that design patented? I don't think so.
I agree that Apple is fucking stupid, but this is a pretty shitty argument

>>56485670
>just off personal experience, most people who you see with a phone day to day, do not have headphones attached to them, this adapter is really only an inconvenience to a minority of users
1. Most people don't use headphones full stop
2. Of those who do, they use 3.5mm jacks
3. By your argument I don't see most people who use phones using mains power. LEL mains power is OLD *shows slide of mains power*, who needs it? iPhones will now only charge via USB

>>56485628
This seems like it would be really annoying when you're trying to put on music at a friend's house or in a car or basically anywhere.
Normally if you want to put a song on, you can just plug the aux cord into the headphone jack and you're away. Who really wants to carry around a special adapter to do that?

>>56486602
What does it matter whether it was patented?

If you think about it, Apple is really ahead of the game.
This is the future of technology and that cord is going to go obsolete.
Have fun staying in the past. Why would you need the cord when you have bluetooth? Most cars nowadays won't even need an AUX cord because of bluetooth. Earphones/Headphones have already gone bluetooth and if you want a cord, just plug in the damn aux cord.
>implying bluetooth ruins audio quality.
It's a placebo effect and I'm 100% sure you can't tell the difference. You are not 100% focused on music 100% of the time.
CHECK. MATE.

>>56486613
What, do you want a mains transformer and a permanently attached cord with British plug on your phone? No you don't.

>>56486578
it's not just your personal car that's the problem, it's everywhere else you might go. If they sell enough of them and the users refuse to adapt, then society will cater to them and Lightning audio inputs will be the spitoons and ashtrays of the future.

>>56486651
Apple gets $4 in license fees for every approved Lightning accessory.

>>56486668
Hey dude let me just pull over so you can sync your Bluetooth to my car and that I can disconnect my phone. Also I now won't receive my phonecalls over the car audio. Vs here man plug into the aux

>>56486725
You dont need to sync your bluetooth everytime; it's a one time thing.
>wanting to receive calls via bluetooth with guests in the car
Yeah, I'd like people listening in on my conversations.

>>56485670
>buys an iPod with phone features.
>doesn't use it as a music device, the main purpose of the iPhone.

I hate people.

>>56485628
you either die a hero or live long enough to become the villian

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>>56486130
LG v20 wit dat nougaty goodness nigga!

>>56485628
The worst thing about iPhones are their non-standard ports. Otherwise they're actually pretty decent phones (probably still more expensive than they're worth).
I know this means more profits for Apple due to people having to buy their special adapters, but surely there must be a point where Apple fanboys get sick of this shit.

>>56486822
Gonna get this when it drops. Super nice looking.

>>56486906
They only use Apple devices so all their stuff are non standard, why would they care?

>>56485670
>Fucking use my headphone jack every day.

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>>56485628
android done it first

so uh

why not have a headphone jack AND bluetooth. you know, like every android phone.

>Macfags will defend this.

Uh, no. I have a samsung phone. I have never owned an iphone and probably never will. Still waiting for that new rMBP though.

>>56486934
This should be illegal, like slavery illegal.

literally bought a galaxy today

was trying not to laugh my ass off in the store while the apple conference was playing

>remove hardware

>its a feature!

>>56486668
>Apple is the first to make wireless headphone

>>56486112
what kind of head unit cost 1000$? i bet its those touchscreen shit or that sony with dsd

>>56486931
That works fine when you're at your own house with your own charger. But anywhere else it becomes a problem. You can't even use the previous generation's charger ffs. I'm very glad this hasn't been a problem for non-iphones for like 5 years at least now.

>>56485915
I had a 3GS. Remember when you couldn't upgrade the iOS and couldn't download anymore apps or updates?

I've realized Apple is pure shit now. They've always been a bummer for years but atleast the iPhone 6 was an improvement from the 5.

In a few years when we won't have wires for anything anymore, we will be thanking Apple.

So, in advance, I am thanking Apple from /g/.

Thank you Apple.

>>56486141
What's the advantage of android music over iTunes?

>>56487279
Enjoy your radio interference.

>>56487279

guess what charges faster than induction

the wire.

guess what you cant do when the one cable port is used?

lots of shit. including use headphones.

>>56486578
It's not just music. Watching Netflix or a movie now will be difficult.

>>56485670
Except you'd be wrong.

Most of the day people don't use their phones as music devices (although many do in office situations, 95% of office PCs have shitty ground loop hum and static over the headphone jack, so listening to music whilst working is often done via a phone left on charge...)

However it's either side of the workday where people use their phones as music devices - the hundreds of millions of people who commute on public transport every day - they listen to music on their phones.

Apple's changes seriously hurt the former (can't charge and play music at the same time) whislt Apple's changes make little difference to the latter (implying bit of extra cord is ruining your music on the way home experience, unless you lose it...)

Small inconvenience? sure

But sooner or later this will be the standard, and its a small price to pay to use a superior device.

>>56487360
I'm sure a lot of people would appreciate carrying around one more extra thing that's easy to lose.

>>56486668
>yfw i can plug my iphone into my car and have it treated like an ipod
thank you based subaru
also, I use it so that I can charge my phone while i listen to music :^)

>>56487279
Reminds me when the new macs used a stupid custom USB type for Apple devices and you had to use an adapter to use old previous USB devices.

>>56487403
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>56487389

>less options

>superior device

how

>>56487414
When did this happen?

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>>56487280
With Android you just drag and drop into folders, like a USB storage device. You don't need any program. In the same way, you can take photos off the device, put them on, etc. You have access to the file system.

>>56487430
Its superior in doing what really is important. By far.

Android phones need a lot of catching up to come close to an iPhone

>>56487496
>It's a superior device!
But how is it a superior device?
>It's superior in doing what is really important!

Shill?

>>56487475
all you needed to say was: itunes is a piece of shit

>>56487516
Faster, better apps, software updates, looks good, fluid UX, etc

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>>56487544
wtf i hate android now

>>56487280
If you have to ask I assume you've never had to deal with iTunes. Just take the advice and stick to whatever you're using. iTunes fucks your shit up even after you've uninstalled it. Every computer I've had that had iTunes on it went to shit for any type of music or playback not run through iTunes

>>56487433
>>56487414

It didn't.

>>56487683
I don't think you've ever used iTunes or even know how to use a computer...

>>56488022
I think he's talking about FireWire.

>>56486536
Sure is. Even if you pay for unlimited data downloads from the app store still can't exceed 100MB. So enjoy that fancy unlimited plan with artificial restrictions by apple.

>>56487496
Catching up how?

>>56488056
FireWire wasn't proprietary though.

>>56487475
>Japanese Windows
Real nip or gaijin?

>>56488104
>from the app store
so its irrelevant

>>56487683
I'm actually an apple user and never really downloaded any songs from them. How easy is it to download music on android? What about music torrents? If that's even a thing anymore.

>>56488194
About as easy as it is to download music on a PC.

>>56488171
Gaijin, PC and other devices in japanese to help learn plus feel good about myself. Also lets me run VN's that won't run in english windows.

>>56488194
>How easy is it to download music on android?
Open terminal.
youtube-dl <URL of YouTube page>
>What about music torrents? If that's even a thing anymore.
Only if you're looking for FLAC-encoded tracks or extremely obscure albums.

>>56488299
>download music on youtube
ayy fucking lmao

>>56488318
>downloading music from illegal file sharing services
ishyddt

>>56487475
how do you do that
I need to use AirDroid to transfer files

>>56488299
You can download music from YouTube on Android? I know it's easy on PC.

Also what is Replicant? Why do people use it?

>>56486668
If you even use bluetooth you would know that it lags. Enjoy having a half-second audio delay on every video that you watch.

>>56488373
If you don't want to use the terminal there are multiple apps to so the same thing. You click share from the YouTube app and it sends the link to the app where you can download the video in any format, optionally leaving only the audio.

Replicant is one of many custom Android builds. Specifically, replicant aims to remove everything Google added to Android and only uses open-source drivers for the hardware it runs on.

>>56485628
Apples idea of being inventive is to just do away with something.

>>56485670
>just off personal experience, most people who you see with a phone day to day, do not have headphones attached to them,

Do you live under a rock?

I work in the city. Headphones and earbuds everywhere.

>>56488340
Youtube officially doesn't let people download their shit either, basically it's still illegal.

>>56488433
What so bad about what Google added?

>>56488481
Just because youtube doesn't allow it doesn't mean it's a fucking law dipshit

>>56488481
It's a big gray area because you're getting the files straight from YouTube. They can't tell a single difference between you watching it and downloading it.

>>56488485
Some people don't like closed-source code running on their devices. Same reason some people run libreboot and certaij Linux distros

>>56486763
iPod Touch came 2nd I believe, I had a 1st gen back in the day

>>56488505
Yes it fucking is, if you agree to use their service they have the rights to make you agree to their terms even if they're retarded.

>>56485642
fpbp

>>56485628
I don't really mind the removal of the headphone jack. What I do mind is that they use lightning. They should have gone straight to USB-C. Now you can't fucking use the earPods on a MacBook or actually any computer at all, which is ridiculous. And I don't see a way out of this, it's just a clusterfuck. They could add lightning ports in their next iteration of MacBooks, but they are literally useless on computers. Apple wants a one-for-all port, which is a good fucking idea, but they quickly need to realize that lightning is not gonna be it.

>>56486668
Little does this shill know that using any 802.11g 2.4 frequencies and Bluetooth within close proximity will severely affect throughput for both Airbud's and wifi radio. Causing poor audio quality and slower Network performance

>>56487033
what the fucking proprietary hell is that "usb" thing

>>56488607
>Causing poor audio quality
uh-oh, better buy some more of those ceramic cable pucks to even it all out!

>>56488507
Any sites/forums where I can browse different ROMs for Android?

>>56488643
nope.

>>56488638
Yep your going to have to buy the iFagitron™ dongle to combat the issue :^)

>>56488654
I mean different OSs for Android.

>>56488342
You plug it in and unlock the screen.
It now works like any removable storage.

>>56488342
I literally just plug in via USB and windows detects it like a USB storage device or anything else, might wanna check that out if it's not working on your phone.

>>56487205
Lots of them that feature touchscreens, Navi, BT, etc.

>>56487033
> 2001 nokia, ericsson etc al
> 2008 some android
> 2016 apple

oh boy android really done it first

jeezus fuck anon

Remember when every phones had 2.5mm audio jack?

>>56488602
Do you really think apple would follow any form of standards?

>>56488703
nope, no such thing.

Did they remove the jack on iPads too? Or is that another thing you have to watch?

>>56486112
terrible song, what is this 2002? also aziz is a faggot sjw cuck if you had not heard yet. his comedy is not funny and hes fucking muslim.

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>>56485670
I always have headphones plugged in.
Not because I'm listening to music, it's often silent.
I just don't want people to talk to me.

>>56488602
If they had gone to usb-c the phone would be so much better.
The thing that annoy me most is when my friends who uses iPhones is unable to charge their device.
Having a special cable is one thing, but iPhones cannot charge correctly if you do any modification to the original design.
Like if you use a USB extension between the two cables, if you use a different source or a longer cable.
I know there is tricks you can do like turning off data and it can charge anyway, but you shouldn't have to.

>>56485628
Apple owns Beats. Beats is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) manufacturers of wireless headphones. Apple removes headphone jack from the iphone.

I wonder if there is a connection. . .

>>56488876
Beats has wired headphones too, why would they cut part of their profit for no reason?

>>56488900
>why would they cut part of their profit for no reason?
>cut profit

Anyone have that link that listed the parts and prices it cost to make a pair of Beat pros in China?

ALSO! you assume they aren't charging an even higher premium on the wireless.

>>56488900
Yeah, because most everyone doesn't drop the last version of the iphone on the second hand market as soon as a new iphone is released.

>>56486179
As an Android user what is it you hated so much about iOS?

>>56485628
First we lost removable batteries, now this.
Are normies actually willing to sacrifice functionality just to have a thinner phone, or is this the product of out-of-touch 50 year old business executives trying to make their product trendy?

>>56488798
Where do I download different OSs for android?

>>56489032
>tfw I run a galaxy s3 and combat it's horrendous battery life by swapping batteries during the day

truly the most glorious feel

Steve Jobs is rolling in his iGrave.

>>56486510
>relieved
If only you weren't a macfag you'd have lived worry-free.

>>56489075
android is an os, anon.

>>56489163
I know but I've heard you can download ROMs that can customize your OS.

How long until apple is sold to Microsoft or Samsung?

>>56485670
I see many people plugged in all the time, you live in a rural community or something?
I'm probably among the exceptions, got myself a set of jaybird bluebuds, perhaps not the best quality experience, but damn they are convenient, I killed a cheap set of headphones before that by the wires catching on a door handle.

>>56489180
Pretty sure the rams are just a customized android, they are not skin packs.
just look up cynogen or whatever.

If you dont know what youre doing you really shouldnt be messing around with rooting. Your just gonna wind up on a botnet.

>>56486112
you could use bluetooth or usb tbqh

>>56488643
XDA. Use google. idiot.

>>56486112
>Spend $1000 on a car stereo component.
>Feed it something other than line-level.

I'll buy an iPhone no matter what. Why can't you just admit iPhone is the best phone on the earth

>>56490565
I don't see why you cant combine charge and audio out for that purpose.
Just wait till 3d party accessories start pouring in.

You had to plug headphone jack AND lightning. Now it will be just one cable.

>>56490678
For my needs, it's preety neat.

>>56486668
(You)

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>>56485628
Wtf I hate 3.5mm jacks now

>Apple literally regressing technology

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samsungfags will defend this...

>>56485628
I actually like it. It's like using an adapter on your headphones to protect the cable and port from damage when you plug shit in repeatedly, and provides an easier disconnect given a yank. It prevents damage to the plug and cable.

It should come in black, though. It looks real stupid to have a different coloured adapter

Is there a built in DAC in the Apple adapter?

>>56485670
How about you board a bus or a train once and see what people are doing to kill the time.

>>56490143
Didn't you hear about the horrid compatibility issues iPhones regularly have with bluetooth in cars (actually bluetooth in general)? I fear that for this very reason the iPhone 7 will refuse to connect to bluetooth audio devices so they will sell more airbuds or whatever that horrible shit is called.

>>56485656
>"..."
Nothing there you go caught up

>>56486668
No. Only macfags believe that the future is 100% wireless. Wireless always had and always will have drawbacks in comparison to cable. Interference is a thing and it is becoming an ever greater problem with more and more wireless devices. Cable is cheap to produce and much more reliable. Even if a plug/standard does become obsolete, you usually remove it when the use declines, not when 90% of people actively use it.

>>56487033
Seeing how nobody here even knows about the top phone pictured it sure had to be successful.

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>>56485628
reminds me of the soundcard i used to use on my 1994 laptop that had no built in soundcard

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>>56485628

>>56485628
#C O U R A G E

Though they package that Lightning™ to 3.5mm adapter which I didn't expect. I expected them doing what Nintendo with the 3DS.

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>>56485628
Retards will defend using ancient technology invented in the 1800's

It's the year 2016, time to embrace wireless headphones

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)

You will resist, but when Android manufacturers follow suit like they did with removable batteries, you will also fall in line.

>>56488860
>implying anyone would want to talk to you in the first place

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>>56496184
>follow suit like they did with removable batteries,
wut

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>>56496184
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phone_connector_(audio)

>"Modern phone connectors are available in three standard sizes. The original 1⁄4 in (6.35 mm) version dates from 1878, when it was used for manual telephone exchanges, making it possibly the oldest electrical connector standard still in use."

>/g/ supports tech from 1878

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>>56488474
>I work in the city. Headphones and earbuds everywhere.

No, you work with plebians. Plebians with iPhone 6s. The Cult of Jobs wouldn't be caught dead with some archaic plebian hardware for plebis. Only $159. Which we can afford because we're not poorfags, like you faggots stuck with your shitty ancient iPhone 6s and your primitive monkey headphones that still use wires.

We're innovating the fuck out of your face, goy.

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>>56485628
Also Sony Ericsson from c.2001

>>56496226
All galaxies and all nexus phones now don't have removable batteries

The holdouts are few, like LG

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>>56496249
Phone operators using aux plugs, from c. 1900

Stop defending outdated tech

No one has mentioned the fact that you will need to charge these headphones.
Surely that is a killing blow.

>>56496249
If I wanted to wear wired headsets like people from 1890 I would go back to those outdated times

Get out of the present, retard, let us progress in the year 2016

>>56496228
Why do you use wheels on your car?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel#History
See how silly your agument is? If a technology works you don't really change it. No company feels the urge to change an electrical socket buecause it does what it was intended to do. I wouldn't criticise apple for pushing for smaller connectors like the 2,5mm jack but pushing for complete removal of it is just bullshit.

>>56496040
We need to go deeper

>>56496332
Your argument is invalid because we haven't found anything better than wheels you fuckwit

How do you dress yourself in the morning? How do you even type?

You fucking idiot, the fact is that WE HAVE found a better more convenient tech, and that is WIRELESS

When we find something better than wheels on a car I'm pretty sure we'll switch to that too

>>56496360
I fail to see how sending via a lossy compression that compresses a lossily compressed media file, while adding lag, is a superior technology to a wired solution. Wired headphones don't need to be charged either.

>>56485670
are you trying to tell me that all these people out there with headphones on their ears are not using their phones but some dedicated mp3 players?

dude it's 2016, mp3 players are obsolete meme devices

>>56496360
No we haven't. That's like inventing a helicopter and saying we don't need wheels anymore. As I said in >>56495845 wireless has several cons in comparison to cable. But reasoning with you is hard, seeing how you immedately spent a half of your post insulting me.

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>>56496414
>>56496414
>I fail to see how sending via a lossy compression that compresses a lossily compressed media file, while adding lag, is a superior technology to a wired solution

It may be inferior in that regard, but it is CONVENIENT

That's the key word

That's why mp3 replaced CD's even though CD's sound better

We're obviously ready to give up a little sound quality in exchange of convenience, history has taught you this

And don't worry, if retards like you don't want to progress and want to clutch your little wires because it sounds a little better, they were even nice enough to include an adapter for you. No need to cry and whine and drag while they drag you kicking and screaming into the future

>>56496414
Don't you understand, plebian? Bluetooth is how audio was always meant to sound. The lossy, crackling, shit quality pumped through a 1/4" speaker that drops connection periodically and has a sub 5-hr battery life is how the artist intended it to sound. You faggots with your archaic technology just couldn't reproduce it, until now.

Only $159 goy.

they need to create a new board for ancient tech loving faggots like you fags

We can call it /ag/

>Ancient Technology

There, the faggots who defend 3.5mm wired plugs from the 1800's can talk about how that's sooooo much better

Make this happen!

>>56488552
Terms of service, EULAs and the like hold literally zero legal weight.

>>56486822
I'll either get this or the Moto Z Play

>>56488342
lmao no
Just plug usb from phone to computer

>>56496228
>tfw at work we actually have a manual telephone exchange with these connectors

>>56489032
Yep. non removable batteries are the biggest scam

the battery life is the first thing to deteriorate on a phone after about 1-2 years, even if all other components work fine

literally planned obsolescence

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>>56496482
Ok /g/ I'm about to leave, but let me level with you

I'm not defending apple

I don't give a shit about your petty flame wars, apple vs android anything like that

I am making a case for wireless tech.

You don't plug an ethernet cable to your phone, do you?

I bought my first pair of LG Tones in 2012. The fact is they sound great, they get charged once every 4 days, and they're convenient as fuck.
They never died or failed on me, I simply retired them last year, in 2015 and bought a pair of LG Tone Infinims with better sound.

I want wireless to become the standard so we can research and progress with wireless tech so in the near future it sounds JUST like wired.

Please, stop hindering progress.

>>56496482
CD and other digital mediums have no difference in quality. It's all digital data. Wireless is not always more convenient as it equires charging, takes more time to connect and can have difficulties with connection.

>>56486822
>buying LG anything

Enjoy your subpar build quality and QC.

>>56485628

I definitely won't. This is a stupid butt decision by a pretentious company that knows it can get away with it...until the iPhone 8. Maybe.

I use the 3.5mm port every day with my KOSS KSC75s and my car audio system. So glad I got a 6S.

>>56496573
>moto Z
>"modular"
>no 3.5mm jack
lmao

>>56496746
Fuck off retard. You can always use your shitty wireless headphones with any phone supporting Bluetooth without stripping others out of an ability to plug their headphones into a mini jack socket. Not that the market is undersaturated with Bluetooth crap that it has to be pushed down everyone's throat in order to stay afloat.

Apple still fucking me to this day even though I quit after the 3gs, cause my old shows I bought off iTunes can only play connected to my old account I don't even use anymore cause fuck them.

>>56496247
>Breakthrough wireless design
>still no silicon eartips, no isolation, no sound quality whatsoever

>>56496746
>i bought wireless so i want wireless to be the standard so people can stop hindering SCIENCE
wew lad this is some college level psychology here

>>56485670
>most people don't even use the headphone jack on their phone to listen to music
Expect every fucking person I see walking by me with head phones in listening to music on their iphone.

>>56485670
t. basement neet

>>56496846
Motorola realized no headphone jack was a mistake. Moto Z Play has it.

>>56496838
The Nexus 5 was built by LG and is arguably one of the best phones of all time. The rest of the shit they build can fuck right off, though.

the problem is that people who buy Apple products literally don't care about what they shit out

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>>56496746
>I want wireless to become the standard
And then Apple starts switching between wireless standards like they do with the connector.and everyone gets cucked.

>>56485628
Just awful

>>56488194
Download a torrent app, the android app store might not have one but you can just install an app with the package file yourself.

>>56488104
>Trusting American telecommunication companies to provide delivery of files greater than 100 mb over cellular
Do you really expect AT&T, Verizon, sprint and T-Mobile to shit the bed when try to update a gigabyte plus game like hearthstone when you're not on wifi? I fucking don't. Niggers can't even provide consistent delivery of YouTube videos and I have a grandfathered unlimited plan. Not to mention ice turned off lte just because reception sucks everywhere in Houston in comparison to regular 4g

>>56495625
I've literally never had an issue using Bluetooth with my car radio and I have an iPhone.

>>56496746
>Stop hating things I wasted money on!

I think the lightning headphones will ultimately be a force for good. Most people already own one or more sets of 3.5mm headphones, but won't want to use them with a cumbersome adapter. Naturally most people won't want to throw them out either. Those that don't will have to find another use for them.

And this is where Apple's genius kicks in. For years I have been an enthusiast and proponent of urethral insertion of various cords. And no cord works better than the ubiquitous 3.5mm audio jack. Especially the Apple models with the slim connectors. By taking away the current practical use for the headphones Apple is staging a new world of pleasure for their customers to explore.

The tingiling of forcing the plug in to the opening. The buildup you feel feeding the entire length of the cord through your urethra to your bladder. The tension as you hold the dangling earbuds. The ecstasy as you yank them down like a parachute rip cord.

And Apple is helping to share this feeling withes everyone.

>2016
>Still using old ass analog plugs
Glad to see Apple is taking us into the 21st century with some premium digital audio technology.

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>>56496184
>>56496228
>>56496306
>>56496324
>>56496482
>>56496518
>>56496746
>>56497737

>>56495868
it's the iconic G1

>>56487033
didn't know Google actually manufactures phones.

>>56497737
You have a poor understanding of audio. The end signal that reaches the coil around the magnet in a speaker has got to be analog. Generate a square wave with audacity and compare it to a sine. This is the difference bewteen an analog signal and a digital one. The only difference apple made is where the digital to analog conversion happens.

>>56497737

gold plated digital it's where it's at

>>56485670

I think you're wrong. I reckon at least 50% of iPhone users use the headphone jack at least once a week.

Think of all the people who listen to it on the bus, at work, in the gym, connecting to their car, etc.

I don't think it's a huge inconvenience though, just keep the adapter connected to your headphones and you're sorted.

>>56497496
don't post this ever again

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RIP

>>56488104
Over wireless, most likely due to your provider not wanting app upgrades clogging their wireless networks and for dealing with customers that blow their data limit with app downloads and updates unknowingly. This is only for single apps. You can download well over 100MB wirelessly, but a single app download/update cannot exceed that limit. There are absolutely no restrictions on size over wifi.

Phrasing matters. You made it sound like there was some weird 100MB data cap.
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All that aside, I think this was a bad move by Apple (the headphones, don't give a shit about the restricting the size of downloads from the app store).

People keep pointing to how the Macbook Air dropped its optical disk drive and was still successful, despite the outcry of critics. The thing is, the Macbook Pro still had one for some time, though it eventually dropped it down the road.

If the iPhone 7 had 2 options, one with a 3.5mm jack and one without, that cost 50$ less, no one would complain and many would probably praise the move. The fact that it's being forced down the consumer's throats reinforces the notion of Apple building a walled garden and making its customers invest heavily in the Apple architecture.

I can justify the Lightning port in lieu of any type of USB more than I can the dismissal of the 3.5mm jack. There are tons of sizes of micro USB, it's hardly standardized. The 3.5mm jack is about as ubiquitous and universal as it gets.

Even if there's no interference from the adapter, it's so unsightly and inconvenient that it'll likely make many people who spend as much or more on headphones as they do phones jump ship. This type of consumer is also Apple's target demographic.

They should have launched the headphones first, built up support, and then shift over. If these headphones fall out as easily as the Ear Pods do, especially while exercising, then this is just the beginning of a big fiasco. This adapter better not be flimsy either.

>>56498526
It's simple truth

>>56485628
>Macfags will defend this.
no they won't you fucking pleb
a macfag will use the shit wireless earbuds

>>56495868
Its the very fucking first android phone, the G1 you fucking shit lol

Are the new earphones based on bluetooth? Can I jam the signal by constantly running bluetooth scanner when I see some iphaggot on a train?

>>56499016
I think I read somewhere that they said it'd be similar to bluetooth but better, so probably different frequencies.

>>56485628
What are Macs?
- t. Tim Cook

>>56499044
>similar but better
Kek, apple in depth explanation for normies

it must be bluetooth frequency range. They cant just pick any frequency because it will interfere with other shit, also regulations etc.

>>56487033
Ironically the HTC extUSB supported normal Mini USB cables as well.

And it had video output. in 2008.

>>56499108
it might have better native support and only be better on the software/firmware side, I haven't really looked into it.

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>>56485628

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We will see the 3.5mm jack back when the iphone 8 comes out, mark my words.

>>56485686
This.

>>56496332
wtf I hate wheels now

>>56499127
are normies waking up?

>>56499193
If this fails hard, you'll see it come back in the 7s

>>56486934
looks like a gangbang

>>56496040
I want to believe

>>56497122
I just downloaded Asphalt 8 (1.8 GB) from the Play Store on my Nexus 5X. It worked flawlessly, staying at approximately 3 MB/s the entire time. It might be hard to believe, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for.

>>56499438
The s version is just a slightly modified version of the original. Cramming a 3,5mm jack back in suggests large changes in the board. I guess 8 will have it back and they will come up with some bullshit excuse how it is still bad, but they will make it useful again with some wizardry.

>>56485670
aux cables nigga

>>56485670
DO U EVER LEAVE UR BASEMENT, GENTOO NEET?

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>>56496040

I was on board until I realized that the phone doesn't come with the AirPods, but instead a lightning earbuds. How do you charge and use headphones?

>>56485670
You're right, don't know why you're downvoted.

Adults pretty much never use headphones, for example.

you better believe in shill threads
[spoiler]because you are in one[/spoiler]

>>56485628
No one needs to read any further."Macfags" says it all.

>>56485628

Back in the day it wasn't normal to have 3.5mm jack in every phone, because listening to music wasnt possible

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>>56496089
Don't worry, Nintendo is already extremely courageous

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>>56485628
I can't listen to music and charge the phone at the same time? This is fucking retarded.

>>56485670
>if you check user data
and user data is 5 people you know?

>>56495625
>>56486112
you can buy a bluetooth receiver that goes into the aux. handy for other phones as well

>>56488999
Not that guy but browsing 4chan using the browser sucks. That was the biggest reason I switched.

I didn't want to have to jailbreak just to get a decent 4chan browser.

>>56485670
I literally have mine on right now.

>>56488999
Can't root
Can't install Debian
Can't pirate apps for free
Everything is harder to do on IOS if you want to do Unix/Developer shit.

>>56489075
If you have unlocked bootloader just search for info on how to install Debian or Ubuntu Touch. Oherwise

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuntubuntu

>WIRELESS IS DUH FUTURE
>Ship phone with wired headphones and adapter because shekels

>>56488104

Apple BTFO, I've downloaded 800+ files from mega on my chink phone over 4G

>>56485686
But Anon...it's INNOVATIVE!

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>>56500626
this is really the biggest problem. Fucking unbelievable

>>56502017
>Can't put my alarm clock on headphones.
>Can't go to sleep listening to Steafan Moleneux Podcast or youtube video.

Iphone a shit.

>>56501797
Innovative means fanbois like cock.

>>56494911

At least its not an iphone

Don't worry virtually every headphone manufacturer will have their own lightning connector headphones I'm sure of it.

>>56485670
>Going to the gym
I bet those words are new to you.

>>56499193
>apple owns the highest selling normal fag headphones
>wireless headphones are expensive as shit due to being a gimmick
>stoping

>>56499690
>We took the 3.5mm jack and and surrounded it with harmonizing quartz cream. To create the most crisp and full body sound ever heard from a phone. It measures 3000pj on the pleasure scale.

sony ericsson phones had a weird bottom connector that could adapt to 3.5mm also

>>56485670
For a lot of devices (e.g. the 3DS), I would say this is absolutely true, however for a phone, I don't agree at all. Smartphones have taken the place of mp3 players. Tons of people use them to listen to music on commutes or during school or work.

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they're just seeing how much they can get away with

>>56488627
fucking HTC

>>56488705
on some phones you have to change the setting to MTP, mine defaults to Charge Only

>>56496838
the only issue I've had with my g4 is the screen cracking after dropping it on gravel

>>56495625
>have sonny receiver
>just werks with my phone over bluetooth
>pick up grill in my car
>grill doesn't want to listen to eurobeat
>grill tries to connect her iphone to receiver over bluetooth
>doesn't work
>dig out aux cable
>oh wait, iphones don't have 3.5mm jacks
>sit in silence the entire journey

>>56494911
>samsung phone
>fca jeep
nothing of value was lost

>>56498064
is there some sort of engineering wizardry that would allow you to run speakers directly off a digital signal?

>>56500621
did anyone even have the headphone adapter for those?

>>56488860
autism.gif

>>56505524
no

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>>56505524
Not many people, but 3rd parties made this shit.

>>56486668
At least I have headphones that doesn't have a 5 hour battery life.

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>>56496184
>>56496228
>>56496306
>>56496324
>>56496518
>>56497737
0.01 USDs have been deposited into your itunes account

>>56485670
> This loser doesn't go to parties
> He doesn't know the defacto way of playing music is the aux cable
baka desu senpai get laid

>>56485656
>COURAGE

>>56485670
I am happy to agree with this if you provide the source of this data and it is reliable.

It is however retarded that everybody else is disagreeing based on anecdotes.

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>>56498528

no, this is RIP

>>56506014
You all bought it anyway. Even my immediate family bought it.

>>56505951
>It is however retarded that everybody else is disagreeing based on anecdotes.
His personal experience is equally anecdotal.

>>56506030
That's because the original GBA doesn't have a backlight.

>>56506030
I don't think I've ever used headphones on mine, I don't even own the adapter.

>>56488508
Pretty sure Touch came out at the same time as the 3G. not entirely sure.

>>56492284
pleb reddit fuck

>>56506030
When it came out very few portable devices (except dedicated music players) had 3,5mm jacks.

>>56505377
On another note, why did androids do that? What was wrong with the usb storage option of Froyo? If you retardedly delete some files it's very easy to get them back from an usb storage but next to impossible for MTP. Also, usb storage works with more devices.

>>56506030
And then they completely dropped the headphone jack forever, never bringing it back for any future devices.

>>56485628
Doesn't bluetooth draw more power than regualar playback Via a headphone jack?

I am personally done with android. 6 years of wakelocks and shitty battery life is enough for me.

>>56508435
The problem is when people take low-end androids as an example for all android phones. My s5 never locked up and when it was new the battery lasted the whole day with very heavy use and three days or more with light use. And it's a samshit. Oneplus and stuff like it probably performs better.

you guys dont realize wires are becoming dated. I mean yea its a gimmick but I get it. Sure 2008 samsung did it, in 2008 we didn't have as advanced wireless / bluetooth systems like we do know. I pop in my civic and my music turns on without me having to do anything at all. Thats what life is becoming. It's easy and it should be that way. I can actually focus on driving now instead of my fucking auxiliary cable.

>>56508609
>Putting in a cable is TOO HAAAAAARD
iGays everyone.

>>56505401
Enjoy your inevitable boot loop

I remember that dongle, fuck Nokia then and fuck apple now.

>>56496184
We should get rid of windshield wipers too. Over 100 fucking years old.

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>>56496360
>wireless is better than wired

>>56508670
...yeah, we should. Dunno what your argument is here.

>>56496746
Unless you find a way to perfectly send data over wireless, you'll never have the quality of wired. It's next to impossible.

>>56508715
....replaced by....?

>>56508720
We already have it. There is no difference unless you're an audiophile bet you're one of those tards that is too hipster to use beats

>>56508736
Nothing. Most people don't use windshieldwipers anymore and if they do they should just not drive in the rain.

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>>56499454

>>56491998
Holy fuck! That's a good idea!

If Applel bundled something like with the iPhone 7 they would be actually competent but no they chose the shitty quick and cheap solution because they are a bunch of cheap faggots.

>>56505505
Pulse width modulation. But unless it's incredibly fast, which can be cumbersome for the cpu it's not really good. But you can also feed a pwm signal trough the 3,5mm jack

>>56505505
>>56509924
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital#DSD_vs._PCM
Forgot to paste link. PCM is what is commonly used, a simulation of a true analog signal. DSD is pulse width modualtion which is essentially fast pulses into the speaker all at the same voltage. Never really caught on. I actually think apple intends to feed a PCM signal through two of the lightning port pins.

>>56500621
you could plug headphones into the SP?

>>56510034
no headphone jack
need an adapter

>>56510059
i only got the original GBA, but a couple people i knew got SP's, i honestly never knew you could plug headphones into them at all, i just saw no 3.5mm jack and assumed it was internal speaker only

>>56487430
the word you're looking for is "fewer", you dumb fucking nigger, not "less", because it's a countable amount.

>>56505439
just show her a video of a donkey vomiting

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>>56486668
>Another device to charge is 'the future'
I think its funny that the V20 was announced at almost the same time. Shows you which companies are focused on pushing features instead of shaving them off one by one in the name of 'thin and light'.

>>56487496
By ditching otg support, expandable storage, being able to connect as media devices, industry standard usb plugs, etc.?
So if android has to "catch up" with iPhones I'm guessing iPhones have to chatch up with nokia 3310.

>>56496040
Yes! Can't wait to get my hands on some µ∥™ (thats micro-parallel for you uneducated android cucks)

can't wait for samsung to follow the same path and see a completely different reaction from /g

>>56488860
Hey, I'm the same, it kinda feels nice to just tune everything out, even without any music palying

This is what made the gameboy advance SP really annoying for me to use. The stupid headphone socket adaptor was always getting lost

>>56485670
I ride the train 2 times a day, and at least 60 % of the people on the train are listening to music on their phones, with regular headphone jacks.

>start smartphone use with iphone4, everything works great, doesn't break
>everyone tells me to try android phones
>try samsung galaxy s4, tons of hardware issues and it won't even read the sim card half the time now
>decide to go back to iphone for my trouble because I need a phone to work as a phone.