/dpt/ - Daily Programming Thread

pure languages

pure trash

>>56473311
Implementing bittorrent protocol in glorious c#.

Comparing implementations on github, java really does have disproportionately bad developers for some reason.
>using Object instead of generics

>not using basedic BASIC

>>56473311
Thanks, anon.

>>56473507
>java really does have disproportionately bad developers for some reason
Java has the most developers, so the bell curve is closer to the average human intelligence, which is to say, bad.

>>56473507
C# has fucking horrible developers fucking delusional shitcunt

>>56473507
But C# is a shitty language.

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>the bell curve is closer to the average human intelligence, which is to say, bad.

Best cross platform socket library for C++? Boost::ASIO looks like a good candidate but are there better candidates?

>>56473554
ya but python dominates the scrub bitorrent market.

>>56473609
>>56473602
Devastated javadevs who use Object instead of Generics detected. Why get upset at an observation.

>>56473507
Maybe it's old code. Java didn't always have generics.

>>56473609
You have a shitty opinion.

>>56473628
Over half the population has below average intelligence. He's not wrong in his neckbeardery

>>56473686
Maybe. It seemed common enough though

>>56473628
>those lips

>>56473678
>Devastated javadevs who use Object instead of Generics detected.
I don't use nor like java, but even if I did it would not have made what I said wrong.

>Why get upset at an observation.
I am not upset, I am simply making a factual statement. It is well known that C# is a shitty language.

>>56473738
But it's not an opinion, anon.
In fact, considering that you are probably a windows user you do not even get the right for an opinion.

>>56473835
She's at it again...

Don't you have some makeup and clothes to buy?

>>56473835
>It is well known that C# is a shitty language.
this. delusional shart in marts

>>56473835
>I am not upset, I am simply making a factual statement. It is well known that C# is a shitty language.
I'll bite. Go on, justify your opinion or admit it's bullshit.

trying to learn how to make an iOS app from scratch. reading about Swift rn.

>>56473835
Hate microsoft all you want, but the entire C# developer ecosystem is one of the greatest gifts to easy dev in many a year.

If you think C# is "shitty", you've probably never programmed a modern, non-trivial application.

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Still working on my C messageboard!
I'm adding post-linking right now.

http://akaribbs.mooo.com/

>>56473951
Once .net and roslyn are mature enough for proper linux use keep an eye at the angry neckbeards crying that they can't use it without looking like hypocrites. I've seen it already.

>>56473951
>c# isn't shitty
>the IDE just doesn't work

>>56473951

People who hate microsoft because of windows are shitty programmers. Whatever problems windows has can be worked around, likewise with linux and I assume osx and unix flavours.

What microsoft are very good at are languages. Even their worst language, VB, is on the upper half of the scale for basics

>java is shit poo in loo
>but this shitty java clone with python-tier disgusting "features" tacked on to it and with retarded pascal case and allman braces (just to not look identical to java) is infinitely better

>>56473889
What?

>>56473923
Ah, so >>56473507 was a bait in order to get spoonfeed. Sorry, it won't work. The burden on proof it at the baiter.

>>56473951
>easy dev
Pajeet dev?
C, Scheme, etc development was easy as hell since ages ago.

>If you think C# is "shitty", you've probably never programmed a modern, non-trivial application.
If you think C# is not shitty, you've probably never programmed a non-enterprise program. (yes, "enterprise" is a bad thing)

>>56474205
>2 rupees have been deposited into your microsoft account, rajeesh

>>56474093
> literally inventing sentences that he never said
>thinking visual studio is windows
Fair enough if you're a text editor only kind of dev, but if you use IDEs visual studio is beaten only by visual studio with resharper.

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dubs decides next project I make in python

>>56474243
>yes, "enterprise" is a bad thing
>>>/hackernews/
>>>/r/programming/

More fun with C++

$ cat switch.cpp

template<int I>
char function1()
{
    switch (I) {
        case 0:
            return '0';

        case 1:
            return '1';

        default:
            return '-';
    }
}

template char function1<0>();
template char function1<1>();

char function2(int I)
{
    switch (I) {
        case 0:
            return '0';

        case 1:
            return '1';

        default:
            return '-';
    }
}

$ g++ -S -O2 -Wall --pedantic -std=c++14 -c -o switch.s switch.cpp

$ cat switch.s

    .file    "switch.cpp"
    .section    .text._Z9function1ILi0EEcv,"axG",@progbits,_Z9function1ILi0EEcv,comdat
    .p2align 4,,15
    .weak    _Z9function1ILi0EEcv
    .type    _Z9function1ILi0EEcv, @function
_Z9function1ILi0EEcv:
.LFB2:
    .cfi_startproc
    movl    $48, %eax
    ret
    .cfi_endproc
.LFE2:
    .size    _Z9function1ILi0EEcv, .-_Z9function1ILi0EEcv
    .section    .text._Z9function1ILi1EEcv,"axG",@progbits,_Z9function1ILi1EEcv,comdat
    .p2align 4,,15
    .weak    _Z9function1ILi1EEcv
    .type    _Z9function1ILi1EEcv, @function
_Z9function1ILi1EEcv:
.LFB3:
    .cfi_startproc
    movl    $49, %eax
    ret
    .cfi_endproc
.LFE3:
    .size    _Z9function1ILi1EEcv, .-_Z9function1ILi1EEcv
    .text
    .p2align 4,,15
    .globl    _Z9function2i
    .type    _Z9function2i, @function
_Z9function2i:
.LFB1:
    .cfi_startproc
    testl    %edi, %edi
    movl    $48, %eax
    je    .L3
    cmpl    $1, %edi
    sete    %al
    leal    45(,%rax,4), %eax
.L3:
    rep ret
    .cfi_endproc
.LFE1:
    .size    _Z9function2i, .-_Z9function2i
    .ident    "Haha no fuck you"
    .section    .note.GNU-stack,"",@progbits

Templates are bretty gud

>>56474226
Java is bad for reasons that C# fixes.

>>56474243
>>>56473923 (You)
>Ah, so >>56473507 (You) was a bait in order to get spoonfeed. Sorry, it won't work. The burden on proof it at the baiter.
No, that was me making an observation. You responded with vitriol and refuse to back up your claim. You made the claim, you have the burden of proof.

>>56474326
kill yourself lmfao

>>56474205
>People who hate microsoft because of windows
I fear that the first person who mentioned microsoft was >>56473951.
Also I would really like a justification for your claim, based on my experience the reverse is true. #include "stdafx.h" #include "conio.h" fopen_s ...

>>56474226
> this biplane is poo in the loo
>but this shitty biplane clone with apollo-tier shitty jet-engines and retarded supersonic speed is infinitely better

>>56474289
You seem like some kind of redditard that came in here and thinks he owns the place. /g/ and /prog/ were historically against enterprise development practices, it seems however that all the pajeets came here since a few months ago.

>>56474345
No, it was actually a bait claim on your part.
Again, if you want to be spoonfed, google exists.

>>56474431
I'm more against pretentious startup masturbation than enterprise software.

I'm starting to apply to internships/entry level positions and need some help.
What should I have on my github?
I have a small machine learning project I did over the summer, as well as a project or two from class and a couple other small programs.
However nothing is super impressive. I haven't had any internships before nor contributed much to open source.
Do I even put my git hub on my resume?
It's just some small projects I wanted to do in my freetime plus some class work.

>thanks /g/

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>>56474243
C# is fantastic for non-enterprise development.

It's a really comfortable hobbydev language. You can make utilities for personal use, services, etc. very quickly.

I would say that Python would be the only competitor in this regard.

That's the beauty; C# sits comfortably in the hobbyist and the enterprise world. You can use the "ENTERPRISE" features if you want, but they aren't necessary.

>>56474362
Microsoft didnt invent c++. They wrapped it around .net. Why it is like it is I don't know. Maybe it's c++ being to shitty to extend to .net properly, or maybe it's an issue due to lack of prepardness for the port on microsofts part.

>>56474480
C# is good for pretentious masturbation, and enterprise software.

It's good for whatever comes between that, too.

>>56473835

t. Haskell user

>>56474471
I never made a claim. I said based on anecdotal evidence java implementations are typically worse than other languages. I have no burden of proof, I said nothing that requires proof. I didnt say java is disproportionately bad, I said based on what I've seen it doesn't look promising.

But yes, I'll just google a subjective opinion, that will totally help me understand your point of view

You're an intellectual coward.

>>56474480
Both are bad. Except that most startups I have seen are done in ruby, js or other hipster languages instead of Java or C# (both shit as well)

>>56474558
>Microsoft didnt invent c++.
Nobody claimed that.

>They wrapped it around .net
This is not the part I was complaining about in my post, even though I do agree that their experiments were shitty.

>>56474536
They're not even going to read your github.
The HR woman glancing at your resume doesn't even know what github is.
If you don't have the minimum number of buzzwords on your resume you're not even getting a rejection letter.

>>56474634
I use C, C++, Scala, Scheme, Haskell, Idris, and even Java and C#, and I think Java and C# are terrible languages.

>VS can't even uninstall without throwing error messages

Whoever told me to use visual studio can suck a massive bag of pajeet dicks.

>>56474706
Yeah but a lot of positions I've been looking at say to link a github if you have one.
I was wondering if it would be better to give them one or not. But you do have a point.

>>56474634
I sadly do not know haskell, however I am really interested in language like Haskell and Idris. Who can deny their superiority after all?

>>56474676
>I never made a claim. I said based on anecdotal evidence java implementations are typically worse than other languages
No, you didn't. The post I was replying to said nothing about Java, instead it made a silly, bullshitty and probably paid by MS claim about C# being glorious.

>I said based on what I've seen it doesn't look promising.
I fear same as above, your post said nothing about java, why are you lying?

>>56474480
>work at startup
>they hire some wizard
>does something pretty neat in D
>it's half finished
>he leaves after 6 months for the next cool startup
>no one has any idea what his shit does due to no documentation produced and coded in a meme language
>scrap everything and rewrite in C++ mixed with pyhton for frontend stuff
Java is pig disgusting with a retarded naming convention but at least it's a mainstream language. If you hate C# chances are you hate the entire C programming language family and you should remove yourself from this earth.

>>56474732
>I can't uninstall an ide properly so I blame everyone else

>>56474718
You are not me, I do not use homosexual languages such as Scala. I did use C++, C# and Java in the past but thank God not anymore.

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>>56474818
>Open your meme uninstaller
>it throws errors trying to uninstall unfound packages
>takes 90 minutes to figure out what universe it's in before attempting to uninstall anything
>uses gigs of ram and half my 8core CPU
>throws errors
>This is your fault, end user

t.

Is virtual reality development going to be the next gold rush like phone apps were in the 2000s?

Should I learn virtual reality development now so I can hit the ground running and be the next app billionaire?

Is there actually any difference between C# and Java? I don't want the opinion of pajeet or some codemonkey who only knows C# or Java.

I looked at them really briefly and they seem basically the same language

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>>56474810
>>does something pretty neat in D
Not a wizard. A true wizard would write it in Scheme.

>>56474803
>fear same as above, your post said nothing about java, why are you lying?

Are you genuinly retarded?

> Implementing bittorrent protocol in glorious c#.
Right, that's correct. I like the language and was being facetious. I'm happy to explain why but I'm sure you're too special a snowflake to ever consider changing your mind.

>Comparing implementations on github, java really does have disproportionately bad developers for some reason.
>java really does have disproportionately bad developers for some reason.
>java
That's the claim I assumed you were referring to so that's my bad. But as you can clearly see it was mentioned in the same post you're referring to "glorious c#"

>2017
Year of Haskell employability

>>56474818
Considering that all you do is to click 1 button, the only button that exists to allow for such a function, I would blame MS for writing buggy products.

>>56474810
>If you hate C# chances are you hate the entire C programming language family and you should remove yourself from this earth.
topkek

>>56474536
The HR lady only cares if she can fill all entries on your resume into her ancient HR system. Your github is probably irrelevant. If they want to test your coding skills you will have some kind of fizzbuzz problem to solve during an interview. When you get your first job everything except what you did at that job is irrelevant when applying for the next one. And after a while everything that matters is who you have networked with.

>>56474810
>If you hate C# chances are you hate the entire C programming language family
fucking retard, just because it has C in its name doesn't make it not shit, you say java is pig disgusting and in the next breath you say C# isn't, kill yourself

>>56474951
C# gives the programmer more options.
>value types
>properties
>operator overloading
>generators and coroutines
>LINQ
etc.

>>56474803

MONADS!

>>56474718

How could a C++ user possibly find C# more abhorrent? That defies logic.

>download VS
>takes 5 minutes to install
>realize it's fucking trash
>go to uninstall
>have to go on vacation and wait for it to configure my OS and setup metadata collection to spite me

Such is life as a pajeet programmer

>>56475013
*Year of Dependent Haskell

>>56474967
>Are you genuinly retarded?
???

>Right, that's correct. I like the language and was being facetious. I'm happy to explain why but I'm sure you're too special a snowflake to ever consider changing your mind.
Why do you keep jumping between topics? Do you have a brain problem?


>That's the claim I assumed you were referring to so that's my bad. But as you can clearly see it was mentioned in the same post you're referring to "glorious c#"
My reply was "But C# is a shitty language.", How in the hell's name could I refer to Java?

>>56475125
Dependent Haskell is just Idris.

>>56474951
java is a lot cleaner and more elegant. it's very well suited for large projects where many people work in collaboration. C# has a lot of """"comfy"""" features tacked on to it. C# is mostly useless outside of windows GUI and CRUD dev because for most other tasks it's better to use java and/or C++.

>>56475142
https://ghc.haskell.org/trac/ghc/wiki/DependentHaskell

>>56475094
Template metaprogramming.

>>56475094
>MONADS!
GONADIC NOMADS!

>>56475116
Just install eclipse and use java lad

>>56475161
My point is "just use Idris". Tacking on dependent types to Haskell isn't going to end well, if they can even manage it in the first place.

>>56475176
I am so triggered right now. I demand you be uninvited from the tech conference I'm going to.

>>56475206
Idris doesn't have the weight behind it that Haskell does

Explain your life as a type signature

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>>56473755
>Over half the population has below average intelligence
>Over half ... has below average

>>56475083
C# is the bugfix to C++ and Java. Remove yourself from this earth you jobless mong.

>>56475206
I share this fear. Haskell is nice, very nice, but dependent types are such a fundamental change that I fear they would wreck it.

>>56475281

life:: Nothing -> Nothing

resurrect :: Void -> a

>>56475281
IO DeathCertificate

>>56475277
Why does that matter for you personally?

>>56475297
stay delusional shart in mart

>>56475296
Consider three people with IQs 90, 100, and 120.

>>56475195
>be noobie programmer diving into real languages
>try C#
>get assfucked by microsoft
>be disillusioned at muh enterprise IDE
>try python
>IDE and conventions from nubulae unknown
>try haskell
>IDE and syntax is for robots
>try erlang
>syntax is written in actual squid-people language
>try java
>syntax and strings/functions written by actual klingons
>try scheme/pascal/D
>it's shit

>>56475424
learn MUMPS

>>56475363
Well I do develop in Java and C++ at work so I guess I'm a halfway street shitter. To go full poo in the loo I would have to get into python and /wdg/.

>>56475414
>The IQ distribution is set so that the mean, median and mode are all 100, with a standard deviation of 15 to either side.

should i learn algol 60

>>56475575
s/IQs/SAT scores/

>>56474810
Should have taken that chance to jump on the D train

>>56474951
>LINQ
>Extension methods for my syntactic sugar fetish
>Most of the ecosystem is open-source and MIT-licensed freedom
>Xamarin
>.NET comes installed on RHEL

Probably plenty of other things, haven't used Java much since I swapped over to C# quite a while ago.

Hard to look back at the ugliness that is Java.

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>The brain is supremely complicated, it could take decades until we're able to truly model and simulate all of the aspects of cognition

>But also you can summarize smartness as an integer

Fact: If you don't believe all programming languages are garbage and hate programming you don't have software development job.

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>>56475281
void *

>>56475424
>>try erlang
>>syntax is written in actual squid-people language
Erlang's syntax is actually fine, what are you rambling about?

>try scheme/pascal/D
>it's shit
True for D and Pascal, but scheme is fine.

>>56475618
Yes, all other languages are just rubbish.

>>56475296
Holy shit, I almost inb4'd because I FUCKING KNEW a retard like you was going to respond like this.

Mean != Median.

You can have over half of a set be below an average.

>>56475755
>i hate programming because i just wanted a paycheck

good

>>56475814
find the difference between two variables in erlang

>>56475740
do u know what "summarize" means?

>>56475297
No, it's only a slightly better Java. Saying C# is a bugfix to C++ is ridiculous.

>>56475931

var1 - var2

???

>>56475740
>you can summarize smartness as an integer
That's reasonable. "Summarize" doesn't mean "precisely define".

>>56475699
Once upon a time I thought D was truly a successor and improvement over C++. Turns out their STL is unfinished and full of bugs. Well that was when I once looked at it due to the guy coding shit in D.

>>56475980
literally squid language

>>56476029
wad de fugg do you mean dads nice and glean :DD

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>>56476029

>>56475969
This.

I'm not sure why anyone would generally compare C# to C++, except in the lens of a specific project type.

I'll go out of my way to use C++ if it is needed for a specific task.

C#'s a hell of a lot better to use than Java, though, and typically sits in the same use-cases.

>>56475969
C++ still contains mistakes from its inception that they still can't do away with. I'm hoping a future C++ standard will finally fix what's wrong with it.

>>56475943
>>56475986
>implying anyone who is suckered into IQ bullshit ever thinks of it as anything other than the complete picture
>implying it's even a useful summary with immeasurable data loss from reality down to that integer
If someone brags about their IQ I certainly know something about them, but protip: it's not that they're smart.

>>56475867
>>56475575

>>56474553
>It's a really comfortable hobbydev language. You can make utilities for personal use, services, etc. very quickly.
Just like almost every language in the world?

>>56476167
I can sense your envy

I bet you suck at pattern recognition

>>56476180
Just because something is touring complete doesn't mean it fulfils
>You can make utilities for personal use, services, etc. very quickly.

>>56473311
So autotools (particularly libtool I guess) seems to tack compiler flags onto the end of my CFLAGS.
For instance I have enabled -O3 and -march=native, but in the build output it shows the libtool command as using -O2 and -g.
I believe these flags conflict with my flags, how can I disable them?

>>56474287
C++ compiler

>>56475424
You haven't tried C tho.

>>56474553
>comfortable
>hobbydev
>Python
>utilities for personal use
lmfao is this what you judge languages on, fucking pathetic NEETs

>>56476167
low iq pleb detected :^)

>>56476251
I'm pretty good at pattern recognition. I'm sorry, does it bother you to consider that perhaps boiling cognition down to a set of totally ordered 1-D numbers is fucking retarded?

What's your Myers-Briggs bro? do you buy into that garbage too?

>>56474287
Java bytecode interpreter

>>56476180
No, there are very few languages that are pleasant to quickly dev up a working program, depending on what you're doing.

>>56476251
Only retards believe IQ is a quantifiable measure of intelligence.

If I practice the pattern recognition questions and then take an IQ test immediately afterwards, I'll score 20+ points more than if I hadn't studied.
Does that mean I suddenly became 20 iq points smarter?
No, it just means I became a better IQ test taker.

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>>56474035
>http://akaribbs.mooo.com/board.cgi?offset[]=
Why is it web software is always so thoroughly broken it takes all of 15s to find a bug.

>>56476297
>Just because something is touring complete doesn't mean it fulfils
And? I said nothing about Turing completeness.

>You can make utilities for personal use, services, etc. very quickly.
Which is true in most languages.

>>56474287
You better not be the aaron I think you are.

>>56476422
enjoy your low level cargo cult

>>56476419
>try C
>dpt makes fun of me

>>56476441
>very few
*tons

>>56476428
Nigga why are you so salty? Did your employer give you an IQ test and then fired you or what?

>>56476422
Anon, I think your anger has negatively impacted your reading comprehension.

The post you are quoting was responding to an accusation that C# is only for "enterprise" usage, and thus focused on its non-professional abilities.

C# is widely used in the enterprise space to build massive applications, but it can also fit your average NEET's needs, and everything in-between.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lYb8NR97U4&list=PLK0c6PKmcrdAhNmEzI8YFnDmHojqrTINw

Here's a MUMPS tutorial course to get you started

>>56476428
You're so mad, it's adorable.

>>56476449
I enjoy pushing people's buttons.

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>>56476297
>touring complete

>>56476679
I'm really not but I like to amp up the aggressive posting because #threadculture =)

>>56475281

std::queue<std::packaged_task>

>>56476511
/dpt/ is college students who think python is a real language because prof said so, when in reality it is only used for illustration purposes and novel applications made by startups who can't afford talented C++ programmers.

>>56476487
That depends on your definition of quickly.

Honestly, this is an unarguable conversation, because the evidence is only anecdotal and we are free to dismiss each other's claims with ease.

>>56476768
>damage control

>>56475133
>My reply was "But C# is a shitty language.", How in the hell's name could I refer to Java?
I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact the post involved both c# and java, calling one glorious and showing disappointment in the other. But that's crazy right? Why would a post mentioning two languages ever involve those two languages in the following discussion.

Why are you so upset?

>>56476487
>And? I said nothing about Turing completeness.
You seem to be under the impression that if something is touring complete the effort and time needed to be put in to achieve goal x is the same for all touring complete languages.

>Which is true in most languages.
This is a lie and you know it. You can't whip up a rapid prototype in C with a GUI frontend that doesn't look like monkey poo that pulls data from a database and talks with a soap webservice under 30 minutes to demonstrate some concept for a customer.

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>installing templeOS
>already feel like a digital crusader

>>56476851
Yes, my point that boiling down cognition into an integer is retarded has been devastated by these implications that I would score low on that very same test. I yield the remainder of my time.

>>56475159
>java is a lot cleaner and more elegant

That's some top tier trolling.

>>56476863
>You seem to be under the impression that if something is touring complete the effort and time needed to be put in to achieve goal x is the same for all touring complete languages.
How so? I never claimed anything like that.

>You can't whip up a rapid prototype in C with a GUI frontend that doesn't look like monkey poo that pulls data from a database
I can

>and talks with a soap webservice
I do not know about SOAP and other fizzbuzz terms, sorry.

>customer
Sucks to live in india.

>>56476863
>touring complete
At least spell it correctly, you mong.

>>56476167
You sound like someone who doesn't know what IQ represents, or that IQ is an attempt at averaging intelligence/intellectual ability across a population.

I had to explain to multiple students in the IT lab today why 5/9 is equal to 0 in Java. Shit's rough, I'm worried when we get to classes and objects

>>56476502
Which aaron do you think I am?

>>56476856
>>56476487
Also

>using every attempt to not justify your claim.

>>56476821
>definition of quickly

import convient_utility X 20
/* 50 lines of code */

>>56476856
>I wonder if it could have anything to do with the fact the post involved both c# and java, calling one glorious and showing disappointment in the other
How is this relevant? My post ONLY talked about C#. Only a retard would assume things.

>Why would a post mentioning two languages ever involve those two languages in the following discussion.
Because my post did not say anything about Java.

>Why are you so upset?
I am not?

>>56477055
What? Why are you quoting two unrelated posts?

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>>56476863
>touring complete

>>56477089
>python is the only language that supports importing libraries

I mean I realize it's a special case with all the math and science libraries made in c for use in python, but that's a weak argument all the same

>>56476961
Aaron the nature fruit.

>>56474287
Haskel to Python compiler.

>/dpt/ says to learn memes
>real programmers say to learn c++
>can't get support from /dpt/ on c++ because they only like meme languages

>>56476934
When you stop having crooked teeth you inbred islander.
>>56476930
>How so? I never claimed anything like that.
You do here:
>I can

>I do not know about SOAP and other fizzbuzz terms, sorry.
It's a protocol. If you don't know what a webservice is I doubt you actually can whip up a non shitty GUI frontend in C that pulls data from database. You are free to disprove me and have 30 minutes from this post is made.

>Sucks to live in india.
More like it sucks having a job. If you only code for a hobby all your opinions are irrelevant because you don't have stakeholders, customers, deadlines, processes, a stupid planner, retarded management etc to worry about.

>>56474287
Python based bot for the game World of warcraft

>>56477175
>Only a retard would assume things.

> Only a retard would assume that someone jumping at the chance to attack a language in a post that attacks a language could have anything to do with the languages involved.

I assumed you were upset at the java comment, because that would be natural. But no, it turns out your just angry and autistic.

>What? Why are you quoting two unrelated posts?

To make it clear it's me and that I'm extending my previous comment. How new are you to this website?

>>56477335
I'm not a bong, I code for a hobby and I code professionally.

>>56477187
I never even mentioned Python. That's just pseudocode. That said, Python is pretty much pseudocode.

>>56477304
The best resource for learning C++ is actually to read a C++ for beginners book. I recommend the second edition of Bjarne's Programming: Principles and Practice Using C++.

>>56477513
Fair, my mistake.

>>56477304
Why not both?

It's difficult to recommend C++, because it's not a comfortable general-purpose language, and doesn't have as many jobs as Java or C#.

>>56477475
>I code professionally.
Unlikely. Doing college assignments or bid $10 on some freelance job doesn't count .

>>56477304
Learn C++, you faggot. There is still no decent replacement for it to date. This might change in 5 -10 years though.

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>>56477335
>When you stop having crooked teeth you inbred islander.
Is this how you reply to people who try to help you in order not to seem like a retard villager?

>You do here:
>>I can
What? Are you retarded?

>It's a protocol. If you don't know what a webservice is I doubt you actually can whip up a non shitty GUI frontend in C that pulls data from database
"If you do not know about some made-up bullshit meme fizzbuzz terms you won't be able to do something trivial in a simple language!"

>More like it sucks having a job
No, not really. Proper CS jobs do not involve customers.

>code
program

>for a hobby all your opinions are irrelevant because you don't have stakeholders, customers, deadlines, processes, a stupid planner, retarded management etc to worry about.
I would claim the reverse for the same exact reason.

Do you happen to also be a windows user?

>>56475281

∀A:Type, A → False

>>56476930
>I do not know about SOAP

>Doesn't know what SOAP is
>Thinks his opinion is valid in the modern world

Anon, nearly every modern application uses APIs to pull and send public and private data for various functions.

>>56476902
why do you think java is so popular? it's because it's simple and easy to use, it's elegant

>>56477616
>SOAP
>made-up bullshit meme fizzbuzz terms

This is either some next-level shitposting, or you are WAY dumber than you think you are.

>>56477423
>I assumed you were upset at the java comment, because that would be natural
How does this make any sense? I only replied about C# sucking in a post that glorified it. Only a retard would assume that it had anything at all to do with Java.

>To make it clear it's me and that I'm extending my previous comment
Except that these two comments were unrelated to each other, are you retarded?

>>56477653
>why do you think java is so popular?
Because sun and oracle did eveything in their power to make it the lingua franca of enterprise before any competition could form. We're literally only now recovering from the damage

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>>56476951

>>56477616
>anime avatar poster
Your opinion is worthless. No need to read whatever you posted. Post hidden.

>>56477703
>How does this make any sense?
Because getting angry at an opinion of a language for no reason is a sign of mental health issues

>>56477653
>popular = elegant

No.

Java is insanely popular because 10 years ago it was the best cross-platform enterprise-ready language.

This is no longer the case, but due to this previous reign of supremacy in that market space, there are hundreds of thousands of enterprise applications to be maintained.

>>56476468
>asks for malformed GET parameter
>program doesn't return anything as a result

I don't see the issue.

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>>56477647
>nearly every modern application uses APIs to pull and send public and private data for various functions.
Absolutely wrong

>Thinks his opinion is valid in the modern world
Exactly!
My opinion would be invalid if I did not what something like functional programming or dependent typing is. Not if I do not know some shitty fizzbuzz memes.

>>56477702
It is indeed a fizzbuzz term.

>>56477780
kill yourself

>>56477653
>why do you think java is so popular?
Viral marketing to corporations.

>>56477616
Please stop giving animeposters a bad name, faggot.

Unless this is a false flag to generate more hatred for anime on /g/, in which case, bravo.

You've successfully made yourself look like a retard and a faggot while posting anime.

>>56477807
If you're logging 500 Internal Errors due to malformed input, I can't wait to see how you handle other edge cases.

I made a simple tool to convert images (jpg, png, gif) in a html page to data-uris.
this won't check the file formats, or even the html, and the images need to be less than 100 MB, and have to be specified like this: src=('|")[^.]*.(png|jpg|gif)

package main

import (
    "bufio"
    "encoding/base64"
    "flag"
    "fmt"
    "log"
    "os"
    "regexp"
)

func main() {
    var html_in string
    flag.StringVar(&html_in, "html", "", "Input HTML file")

    flag.Parse()

    if html_in == "" {
        log.Fatal("No inputs.")
    }
    file, err := os.Open(html_in)
    if err != nil {
        log.Fatal(err)
    }
    defer file.Close()
    scanner := bufio.NewScanner(file)
    for scanner.Scan() {
        var line = scanner.Text()

        // matches something like `src='/path/to/image.jpg`
        var re = regexp.MustCompile(`src=('|")[^.]*.(png|jpg|gif)`)
        if str := re.FindString(line); len(str) > 5 {
            file, err := os.Open(str[5:])
            if err != nil {
                log.Fatal(err)
            }

            data := make([]byte, 100*1024*1024) // 100 MB
            count, err := file.Read(data)
            if err != nil {
                log.Fatal(err)
            }

            b64str := base64.StdEncoding.EncodeToString(data[:count])

            var idx []int = re.FindStringIndex(line)
            fmt.Println(line[:(idx[0]+5)] + "data:image/png;base64," + b64str + line[idx[1]:])
        } else {
            fmt.Println(line)
        }
    }
}

>>56477845
kill yourself

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>2017
>not learning MUMPS

>>56477780
This pretty much sums it up.

Only relatively recently have good alternatives sprung up.

>>56477755
But I am not angry.
Instead, I would think that acting all autistic and claiming that a language that I said nothing about has to do with my post is a sign or mental illness.

>>56477811
Stick to editing .conf files and ricing your desktop. You're an embarrassment.

>>56477894
And yet you keep hammering on that one after I admitted it was my mistake. It's almost like you'll do anything to avoid justifying your autism.

aint workin on shit man, got fired from my job as a junior programmer today, was high on speed and had a annoying error in my code that wasnt really executing properly so i got mad and threw my monitor at my shift supervisor.

>>56477872
Fuck off with your programming, we're arguing poorly about inane bullshit.

OOP SUCKS
FUNCTIONAL IS A MEME
HASKELL HAS NO JOBS
DYNAMIC TYPING IS BAD BECAUSE RUNTIME ERRORS
DYNAMIC TYPING IS FINE BECAUSE RUNTIME ERRORS AIN'T NO THANG

K&R
NO THAT'S A MEME
SICP
NO THAT'S A MEME

THEN WHAT?
MEME LANGUAGE BOOK

PAJEET!
NEET!

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>>56477720
Good, the less dumb replies to my posts from now on, the better.

>>56477847
Is this your own way to say that you disagree with something? I would expect more actual arguments about the context instead.

>>56477934
How is this relevant to my post?
I haven't actually edited any .conf file for more than a few months, not that this matters.

>>56477830
Don't shit yourself, Pajeet.

>>56477983
>i got mad and threw my monitor at my shift supervisor
Jesus christ.

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>>56477997
Why that spam anon? Nobody is arguing about any of these right now.

>>56477997
>Fuck off with your programming, we're arguing poorly about inane bullshit.
oh, ok
:(

>>56477868
>>56476468
>>56477807
The issue is it should return a "400 PEBCAK"

>>56477811
But anon, SOAP is a bloated XML format made for enterprises by Micro$hit. It's very far from memer territory.

>>56477616
>Is this how you reply to people who try to help you in order not to seem like a retard villager?
He called me a mong you fucking retard. I don't see how that is helpful. But then you are posting children cartoon images so you are probably twelve or something.
>What? Are you retarded?
No but you are apparently.
>"If you do not know about some made-up bullshit meme fizzbuzz terms you won't be able to do something trivial in a simple language!"
It's sad when an average Pajeet has more knowledge than you. Just stop posting or admit you exaggerated and never actually have been tasked to create a demo by the management while they take a customer out for lunch.
>No, not really. Proper CS jobs do not involve customers.
They all do you are just too stupid to realize it.

>I would claim the reverse for the same exact reason.
If you actually believe that chances are Pajeet actually have more important duties than you do at your workplace. Did you get hired on some government funded autism program? We have a few of them here for job and social contact training.
>Do you happen to also be a windows user?
My development PC is using opensuse. Building farm is BSD. My work laptop use windows because every non meme company use active directory and ms office. I use a virtual machine with opensuse on it for when I have to go on commissioning.

>>56477983
wew

>>56477997
>DYNAMIC TYPING IS FINE BECAUSE RUNTIME ERRORS AIN'T NO THANG

This. Only stupid people are uncomfortable with dynamic typing. :^)

>>56478032
idc it was my first day at that shit hole anyway, the carpet smelled like piss , or atleast something did. im pretty sure my co-worker was using open piss bottles under his desk.

>>56478216
I must know:
What languages used there?
What country?

Can we please argue about something actually sensible, like tabs vs spaces?

>>56478245
It was a game dev house, for the sake of un-employment benefits i wont say which but
USA, and it was C# and Javascript

>>56478283
spaces

Is there a better way to do this? I'm pretty new

wordsNoPunc :: String -> [String]
wordsNoPumc = map (takeWhile (\x -> (not (elem x "!,.!@#$%^&*()_></\|[]}{-=+_`~")))) . words

It would be better to name it wordsAlphaOnly but I had trouble when trying to do it with elem and zip ['a'..'z'] ['A'..'Z']

>>56478283
>tabs vs spaces?
no need, golang already solved the problem: automatic conversion to tabs.

>>56478318
Using a real language would sole about 2/3rds of the problem me thinks

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computer science majors are some of the least intelligent, and laziest students i know. let me preface this by saying this is a junior level course for csci majors only, it's not an intro course whatsoever. we had an assignment to make a function that multiplies two very large binary numbers being represented in an array with the low order bit at index 0. pretty simple right? plus we had 2 weeks to finish this, and i finished it in a single sitting the day it was assigned because it's trivial.

it's due tonight and everyone in the class was freaking out about it. there's now a faction of the class that one guy convinced to do it his way, which was to convert them to integers, multiply them, and then convert back. basically all the rest of the class is doing a for loop of X additions

>>56478289
>It was a game dev house, for the sake of un-employment benefits i wont say which but USA,
Probably not a bad thing getting fired. But if they know people elsewhere it could be problematic for future job opportunities.
>and it was C# and Javascript
Sounds like unity programming and making cellphone games.

>>56478325
This.

>Have problem, google search for solution
>Nothing relevant several pages back
>Make post on SO, detail my problem, the articles/SO questions I've read before posting, the things I've tried to fix it, and my code snippet
>Locked as duplicate within minutes, "This question already has an answer"
>It's not the answer to my problem at all
Why won't that website just go read-only already?

>>56478289
I'm assuming Unity mobile games.

I'm a fry cook at wendy's, what programming language should I start learning?

>>56478283
You're welcome to use either.

My IDE takes care of any discrepancies like this.

I'd imagine one plugin would fix this for "text editor" users.

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>>56478127
>He called me a mong you fucking retard. I don't see how that is helpful. But then you are posting children cartoon images so you are probably twelve or something.
Ah, I see. You got buttmad and ignored his actual argument and instead focused on his justified insult.

>No but you are apparently.
Ah, the "NO U" meme.
You still have to justify how claiming to be able to create a C program with a GUI frontend that pulls data from a database means that you also claim that every Turing complete language is good for quickly making personal projects.

>It's sad when an average Pajeet has more knowledge than you
On SOAP, sure. He probably does and I won't deny it. Why should I?

>and never actually have been tasked to create a demo by the management while they take a customer out for lunch.
This is true as well, I do not work as a pajeet after all nor I ever claimed that I did.

>They all do you are just too stupid to realize it.
Well, I fear that this is false.

>If you actually believe that chances are Pajeet actually have more important duties than you do at your workplace.
Hm? How so?

>use active directory and ms office
Poor one, working at shitty companies. I can understand why you try to justify your shitty corporate life now.

Why did you post an empty space after most of your replies?

>>56478283
Just use both just like GNU style does.

>>56478341
I don't know why this surprises anyone. Computer science typically isnt taught until college so unlike math or physics where scifi loving retards have almost two decades to tdetermine they're shit, people do it with know idea of what they're really getting into just because they like computers/games

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>>56478371
you

>>56478318
did you mean ['a'..'z'] ++ ['A'..'Z']

>>56478399
There's a really good one for non-programmer beginners called EYLF.

I've got a decent book if you need me to upload it.

>>56478399
Java, a fat greasy language for a fat greasy job

>>56478318
>zip ['a'..'z'] ['A'..'Z']

wordsAlphaOnly = `elem` (['a'..'z'] ++ ['A'..'Z'])

zip does something different:

zip ['a'..'z'] ['A'..'Z'] = [('a', 'A'), ('b', 'B'), ...]

>>56478413
Thanks, I will

>>56478341
You must be going to a shitty University. Which one is it so I could avoid it?

>>56478371
Just explain to them why it is not an answer to your question.

>>56478429
>I've got a decent book if you need me to upload it.

Pls do

>>56478433
I won't lower myself to that level. I'm a chef, not a street shitter

>>56478406
it's a junior level course, so they've had 2 entire years to learn. i agree that the reason people gravitate towards comp sci is because they think hacking is cool and they never had a mandatory highschool class make them hate it and feel stupid

>>56478434
Never mind my implementation of wordsAlphaOnly, I was really just trying to get the use of (++) across.

>>56478341
This is why companies are hiring business and math majors for programming jobs.

You can teach someone programming in a few months.

Good luck teaching them even mid-upper level maths, or a combination of law, accounting, marketing, etc.

Depends on the job, of course.

>>56478341
About 90% at my CS program had dropped out before the third year ended. For my master in SE most finished but it was like 90% Indians.

>>56478433
sounds like a great fit for your mom

>>56478460
EYLFlang for Beginners by O'Reilly. First result on Google.

If you can't find it by the acronym, EYLF is short for END YOUR LIFE, FAGGOT.

>>56478456
East Carolina University. the only reason i'm here is because i got a free ride

>>56478497
No results for that book, can you give me a direct link?

>>56478341
>basically all the rest of the class is doing a for loop of X additions
how is this bad?

>>56478512
>the only reason i'm here is because i got a free ride
Might be a mistake.

I got offered multiple free rides, and didn't take them. Went to a big university with one of the most pervasive nepotistic attitudes, which is great, because it's gotten me a great job and other opportunities.

>>56478472
Every math major I know is really shitty at programming and CS. When will this meme end?

>or a combination of law, accounting, marketing
Not relevant to CS.

>>56478375

>>56478343

Unity yeah, but a PC game, we were making a RPG type game like arma 3 life missions But the hook was it was for VR, which sounds cool on paper but in reality shit idea as fucking unity games always have ran like shit.

>>56478528
because it'd take about an hour to do a multiplication

>>56478554
It is if you're designing the program and interfaces, rather than just being a codemonkey doing "cracker programming" (i.e. waiting for your supervisor to hand you your next cracker to munch on without really thinking about the business-case).

>>56478434
Didn't realize I could do that, and I was using

map (\(a, b) -> [a] ++ [b]) $ zip ['a'..'z'] ['A'..'z']

lmfbo
Still learning so I excuse myself for that but I'm pretty retarded

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>>56478602
>cracker programming

>>56478590
how are you doing it?

>>56478602
Oh look, it's another pajeet posting memes.

>>56470846

I'm reposting this cause last thread died

>It greets you and sends random NSFW pics and jazz from my computer upon request.

sounds kinky

>There are hundreds of projects that you could clone and fuck with.

I know but there is just so much I don't know where the to start

>What are your interests?

Tech wise I'm kind of interested in making a mod for a game, or maybe my own text adventure.

>What software with interoperability do you use every day?

What mean?

Friendly reminder that C++ can do more shit in the compile time in comparison with Haskell.

>>56478626
i googled "how to multiply in binary", wrote the process down on a piece of paper, and turned it into code. took me under an hour

>>56478679
Not really, no.

>>56478650
Anon, if your tasks are limited to only programming, and not being a decision maker, you're the Pajeet.

Any pajeet can write code.

A developer creates programs.

>>56478720
And decision making has nothing to do with law and marketing.

>>56478711
In C++ you can make source code so convoluted it crashes the compiler and exploits the vulnerability to get arbitrary code execution at compile time.
Checkmate, Java.

If your language can't implement

traverse_

then it's shit.

>>56478711
In that case, do you admit that >>56473299 is wrong?

>In C++ you can make source code so convoluted it crashes the compiler and exploits the vulnerability to get arbitrary code execution at compile time.
Consider reporting this bug to your compiler.

>>56478767
No?

>>56477872
samefag here
btw, if someone wants something similar, but for bash, you could do something like:

while read line; do if [[ "$line" =~ "[a-zA-Z0-9][^.]*.(png|jpg|gif)" ]]; then echo "$line" | tr "${BASH_REMATCH[0]}" "=`base64 -w 0 ${BASH_REMATCH[0]}`"; else echo "$line"; fi; done < input.html > output.html

sadly, the replacement with tr doesn't work, so I have no clue how to do this properly.

I'm not sure if anyone here cares anyway... I shouldn't be wasting my time with this :(

>>56478787
I think that guy's a little slow.

If your language doesnt allow operator overloading on [] at a minimum it's not a real language

>>56478756
What is traverse_?

>>56478678
I think I remembered you said you were using C#.

If you wanted to make something like a text adventure, you should take it one step further and put your text adventure within a GUI. A Text Adventure with polish and a little UI sprinkled in.

>What mean?
For example, I use discord occasionally with friends. Thus, I was more motivated to create a Discord bot in C#, just to see if I could.

If you use anything like that that has an SDK or APIs, or plugin capability, you could write something that does anything with the program.

>>56478456
>Just explain to them why it is not an answer to your question.
Still closed. I get that the site is flooded with lots of the same question because people reflexively post on SO before searching for the answer themselves, but I did the footwork and still got shut down.

>>56478787
This is a contradiction then. You can't both disagree with >>56478679 and agree with >>56473299

>>56478754
template haskell can do arbitrary IO at compile time

>>56478797
>.get(i)
>.charAt(i)

Even worse:
>.equals(o)
>.compareTo(o)

>>56478750
>decision making has nothing to do with law and marketing
You apparently have little professional experience, as well as a poor imagination.

>>56478821
post a link

>>56478824
Why?

>>56478840
And you apparently are retarded.

I'm getting this

>XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://api.forismatic.com/api/1.0/?method=getQuote&lang=en. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'null' is therefore not allowed access.

When I try to do this

function GetQuote(){
    $(document).ready( function() {    
        $.getJSON('http://api.forismatic.com/api/1.0/?method=getQuote&lang=en', 
                  function(data) { 
                        document.getElementById("quoteText").innerHTML = JSON.stringify(data); } ); 
   })
}

Why is something so trivial have to be so complicated?

Getting a piece of JSON data should be really basic simple no?

>>56478750
That would depend on the decision being made, yes?

I'd be happy to provide examples if you are curious about possible situations where those disciplines would be valuable.

>>56478807
>I think I remembered you said you were using C#

Yep that was me

>If you wanted to make something like a text adventure, you should take it one step further and put your text adventure within a GUI. A Text Adventure with polish and a little UI sprinkled in.

so just go for it I guess?

>If you use anything like that that has an SDK or APIs, or plugin capability, you could write something that does anything with the program.

Oh ok thx that makes sense

>>56478796
>>56478824 goes for you as well.

>>56478851
That poster claimed that no Haskell compiler does it while theoretically it could.
It is a fact that current C++ and C compilers do it, thus meaning that >>56478679 is correct.

>>56478922
>>56478824
autism

>>56478922
No, the point was about the languages (GHC Haskell, which is very much its own language) vs C and C++.

>>56478875
Decision making != a certain decision being made.

>>56478942
Yes, did you even read what I said?

>>56478943
Oh, ok :)

>>56475281
life :: Empty

>>56478922
You said "C++ can do more than Haskell". This is false. C++ compilers are not C++. Haskell compilers are not Haskell.

>>56478975
So you admit that Haskell is inferior to C++ and C, right?

>>56478847
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/39377266/nullreferenceexception-when-selecting-item-from-combobox-while-item-in-listbox-i

It's a common error (enough to warrant an entire pre-designed question/answer page) but the NullRef page doesn't answer my troubles. My variables are in order and trying to use

ClearSelected()

or

SelectedIndex = -1

doesn't go around the issue, and my WPF controls are in order in the XAML. Like I said in my SO question, I'm still pretty new to this but c'mon, I read the rules and I've read the gripes about poor posting.

>>56478404
>Ah, I see. You got buttmad and ignored his actual argument and instead focused on his justified insult.
If people decide to reply in a rude manner I will reply in the same tone. That reply chain is none of your business though.
>You still have to justify how claiming to be able to create a C program with a GUI frontend that pulls data from a database means that you also claim that every Turing complete language is good for quickly making personal projects.
I made a claim that not all languages are suitable to whip up a quick tech demonstrator in. Quick as in under 30 minutes. You implied this is possible in most languages and backed it up with that you can do it in C. That leaves very few general purpose programming languages that are more low level than C and even more lacking in standard library. This leads me to believe that you actually believe it takes the same constant time to implement a tech demo in all available general purpose programming languages.
>Why should I?
You show poor domain knowledge. You either suffer from autism or just aren't experienced enough. For example you are either in high school or first year college taking your first programming course.
>This is true as well, I do not work as a pajeet after all nor I ever claimed that I did.
Pajeets are not trusted with such tasks.
>Well, I fear that this is false.
Do you work pro bono? If the answer is no you have at least one customer.
>Hm? How so?
It shows you have no experience working in a team.
>Poor one, working at shitty companies. I can understand why you try to justify your shitty corporate life now.
There is a reason why active directory and MS office are industry standard everywhere. Honestly it doesn't bother me at all. It just werks. I use a dev machine and virtual machines anyway.
>Why did you post an empty space after most of your replies?
Because I use mac products and it triggers your autism.

>>56478980
Oh holy shit, it's one of you autists again.

This thread should just be a redirect to SO and end it already

>>56478990
Yeah, I guess you're right.

You've convinced me.

>>56478980
No, I didn't? I can't find this exact phrase anywhere in here.

>>56478980
I used the same terminology as the other poster.

Everything has already been programmed.

We don't need you anymore.

t.
Your ex-Boss

>>56478992
This is not your question.

>>56479002
Accusing me of being pedantic is not an argument.

>>56479037
>C++ can do more shit in the compile time in comparison with Haskell.
Sorry, I should have used ellipses. Retard.

>>56478803
https://hackage.haskell.org/package/base-4.9.0.0/docs/Data-Foldable.html#g:4

traverse_ :: (Foldable t, Applicative f) => (a -> f b) -> t a -> f ()

>>56479051
>not having the repo setup for remote SSH commits and fucking them over if they do this

>>56479060
What.

>>56479069
Even with ellipses, you inserted your own "than" into the sentence, thus nullifying your credibility.

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>>56479000

>>56479104
Nice argument.

>>56479051
>mfw retard futurist singularity CS fedoras imagine automation taking over all the plumbing, electrician, custodial jobs first
So high on their own farts they don't realize the programming jobs are the first to go

>>56479051
If anything I've learned that every product is not customized enough for anyone's needs.

>>56479118
AI must be maintained

>>56479080
>attacking your former employer with your own credentials
It's like you want to go to prison in the most retarded way possible.

I'm actually surprised that GHC doesn't already do supercompilation.

>>56479134
It's not illegal to accidentally delete all your commits and wipe your storage upon being terminated.

Or to implement unavoidable segfaults.

>>56479142
it's non-trivial because of code bloat

this is the same reason a lot of embedded systems developers avoid templates like the plague

>>56479142
>supercompilation
Fucking pathetic, Idris already has megacompilation.

>>56479118
Hi,

You have no idea what you're talking about.
Programming is not currently a task solvable with machine learning, and it will not be for a long time given the state of the art.

The first "revolution" will be transportation, we're almost there baring a few tragic accidents that will set us back a couple years.

>>56479133
so you think there will be huge demand for a massive amount of AI maintenance? L O L

Face it, programming jobs are dead. People have been re-inventing the wheel for years to desperately keep themselves relevant.

Going into programming now is like going into ticker tape technology.

>>56478872
This is not a complication, this is a security measure.

>>56479183
>so you think there will be huge demand for a massive amount of AI maintenance? L O L


Yes, because 1 man will not be able to maintain even 1 AI system alone. There will be a massive network of operators and technicians to keep the system working flawlessly, as an automated system which deviates and goes haywire can destroy itself in a matter of milliseconds.

>>56479157
>>56479142

and also non-termination
but while you're here, feel like submitting a ticket to GHC to add a bang pattern style extension for this?
it would mean the compiler might hang, but if you could do something like
#! (expr) -- force expr to be evaluated at compile time

>>56479178
He's just butthurt because he learnt a trade instead of something less easy to automate.

>>56479183
By the time programming is automated, the problems caused by automation will have been solved. If they aren't programming won't become automated, because society will have collapsed.

>>56479156
Topkek, yes it is sweetie. By that logic it's not illegal to set fire to the warehouse after you quit a manufacturing job, after all you and your team worked on those products, right? Retard.

>>56479178
Look at the trajectory instead of just skimming reddit posts and blogs. What skills did it used to take to be a sysadmin vs how easy it is to throw up an ubuntu digitalocean droplet. What skills did it used to take to run a webserver vs firing up rails? etc.

Programming jobs are ending

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>>56479000
>If people decide to reply in a rude manner I will reply in the same tone.
Funny, considering that
1: You were rude without being insulted in other replies
2: You were rude to someone helping you.

>That reply chain is none of your business though.
I will reply to whatever I want and you can't stop me.

>and backed it up with that you can do it in C
Actually you claimed that you can't do it in C, and I said that I can. It was not my way to back up what I said.

>That leaves very few general purpose programming languages that are more low level than C
C is not a low level language. There is no more and less low level.

>This leads me to believe that you actually believe it takes the same constant time to implement a tech demo in all available general purpose programming languages.
This happen to be wrong however. Also, you seem to changed your claim into "all available general purpose programming languages" from "all Turing complete" languages.

>You show poor domain knowledge
Well, I fear that it's not possible to know most things in this world. Not even half of the things in my domain. It is only natural that there is something that I will not know about, especially when it is not important. I am sure that this also holds true for you.

>Pajeets are not trusted with such tasks.
"Management" and "while they take a customer out for lunch", definitely pajeet.

>Do you work pro bono? If the answer is no you have at least one customer.
And this is again wrong.

>It shows you have no experience working in a team.
This kind of logic makes no sense though.

>There is a reason why active directory and MS office are industry standard everywhere
Because they are shitty? Shitty things always tend to be quite popular.

>Because I use mac products
Why do you hate yourself?

>>56479051
Where's my virtual waifu?

>>56479157
Does code "bloat" from supercompilation really matter if you're not on an embedded system?

>>56479205
That's true. Idris can do it because it has termination checking, and it needs to normalize terms at type checking time anyways (supercompilation is just normalization, really).

>>56479236
>it's illegal to be incompetent and accidentally your own systems

Look at this millennial who's never seen what a disgrunted sysadmin can do.

Oh great, it's another one of those teacher sucks so you'll have to teach yourself from the book. Too bad the book is your typical math book with 10% concept explanation and 90% formulas and examples that mean nothing without the concepts, class.

>>56479112
Have you actually worked on any academic paper? They would kick you out for this.

>>56479249
None of that is programming.

todays project:

converting large json file to dictionary in an ebook format

>>56479270
>typical math is 90% formulas
Are you in US high school?

>>56479278
This is fucking 4chan.

>>56479076
I don't know what Applicatives are yet :(
I feel like when I get that deep into Haskell I won't like it

>>56479191
I really feel stupid, like I can't even do the simplest things. But I must not give up...

>>56479331
This should help:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-origin_resource_sharing

New thread: >>56479338

>>56479320
The main operation of Applicative is basically a generalization of "zip".