/pcbg/- PC Building General

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Should i waste my money on this fine shitposting machine?

>>56440931
Yes.

Only 600w is okay tho

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what the fuck is up with the meme that your pc must have a SSD? like i see people pretending that its some kind of a reguirement, I even seen some go as far as putting a 120gb SSD and no other storage.

CPU: i7-6700K
Just meme my shit up, pham

>>56440931
>>56440965
Motherboard could be cheaper also.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vqjwcc

I guess I'll switch out the ram for something less memey, anything else? i'm ready to just buy the thing

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Is pic related my best bet if I want a fullsized graphics card in a Mini-ITX case?

>>56440979
I didnt fall for this meme yet.

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>>56441014
>Is pic related my best bet if I want a fullsized graphics card in a Mini-ITX case?

Pic related. In pic it is housing a radeon 7990. Only thing is if you want good cpu cooling or a lot of hard drives, this isn't the case for you. You'll be running either stock cooler or a 120mm AiO for the cpu. Can fit up to 3 ssds. Or 2 and 1 3.5" drive. The 2 ssd mount points take up the DVD drive though.

>>56440965
What semi/full modular 80+ gold psu do you suggest?

>>56440996
Such as?
>inb4 Biostar

>>56441013
Put a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, its way cheaper nigger

Drop the mobo, crossfire and sli are memes

RAM is okay but i would get 3000 to save some.

are there any video cards that still come with 2x DVI ports? none of my monitors have an HDMI port :\

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>>56440897
>rose
anon...

>>56441070
what mobo should I get instead?

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>buy stuff that I'd like now or wait 2 months for black friday

>>56440897
Any dickpics of him?

>>56441118
>falling for the Jew Friday meme

>>56440979
It's usually a $20 difference over an average size spinny drive and gives any PC at all a noticeable boost in startup and file saving/loading
The price/Gb is literally the only reason to stay with HDDs

>>56441060
Nah, I always pick the cheapest EVGA 600 i can get. Is not like you would have problems with a 1070.

Such as?
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/R8M323,Fn7CmG/

Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 is one of many

>>56441058
I'm fine with no HDDs, but need a decent CPU cooler.

>>56440979
Because people are dumb. If your budget is so tight you can only have a 120GB ssd, then get a mech 1TB drive hands down. Other than that, ssd is like night and day compared to HDD for everyday use. Boot times no with standing, even bargain bin ssds are much much faster than even the fastest mech disk. Seek times are drastically improved so there is no more waiting for anything. I can literally have my PC start cold, have Firefox, steam, and my remote desktop connection up after 10 seconds of hitting the desktop. SSD storage is so cheap now, there really is no reason to NOT have one.
>>56441019
Not a meme if it benefits you. Only people who claim SSDs are a waste or meme are those who have never used one.

I do a lot of video editing and I can say the difference beteeen using a mech disk or ssd as scratch space is leagues apart. Render times are faster, everything is. Even 2 mech disks in raid 0 can't compete. Then you also have to worry about array failure. Plus the problem of disk noise etc.

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>>56441093
>ashley
anon...

>>56441145
It'll fit bigger AiO 120mm cookers like the H80i GT.

Is this still better than buying an off-the-shelf $1200 8-bay shell of a NAS?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/H6YMbj

>>56441103
The same one in >>56441141

>>56441141
The only cheaper 600-650W, semi-modular, gold certified psu is a Corsair CSM and if i have to chose between corsair and SeaSonic, i take the later.

>Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
The Asus is actually cheaper in EU, but the prices here compared to USA are way too high anyways.

>>56441233
I see.

Pull the trigger

>>56441212
depends on how lazy you are. I am pretty lazy so I picked up a synology 1812 and haven't had a hitch yet. I would also wager that one of their enclosures will be quieter and cooler than one you build yourself.

>>56441133
>pay 20$ more or less to get one tenth the storage and a faster boot

makes sense

>>56441264
Can you torrent and seed from them?

>>56441264
What if my build has no fans?

>>56440931
There is nothing obviously wrong with your build.

If you care about saving money you could cut cost on your HSF / Mobo/ Case/ Ram

You probably don't NEED 16gb of ram or a Full tower or one of the best Nocturna HSFs.

But if the cost isn't a problem. You're good to go.

>>56440897
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FZWv3F
Any criticism is welcome.

>>56441267
Exactly, do that and make it your boot drive, and since HDDs are going way down in price since the market is dying, use a cheapass spinny for data that isn't time intensive
The most noticeable difference is boot times, but if you save and load huge files often, an SSD is without question worth it

My punishment box for the piece of shit nephew I have that keeps downloading viruses onto my workstation whenever he comes over
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qzzqm8
How can I make it worse and get away with it?

>>56441314
Soundcards are dumb, and fucking $170 for 16gb 2800mhz ram is dumb too.
Get 2x8gb 3000mhz ram for $80

Sorry for that late response anon, I only game. So I guess stick to the 6600k, instead of the 6700k Should I upgrade the psu as well? I've had the 650 corsair psu for about 3 years now. My GPU is a fury X

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/gxyjZ8

ok, I made some recommended changes and now the price is $100+ lower which is p nice

what else should I do? I have fan autism so I need something quiet. would the 212 evo still be ok? or stick with this noctua one?

>le

>>56441252
Thanks so far.

>>56441304
I do care about saving money, but i also care about quality and reliability. I made some mistakes with my current pc, like stock cooler, shit psu, shit case because i was on a tight budget 6 years ago.
I won't do the same mistake twice, but if you have reasonable suggestions, please go on.
>HSF
Such as? Should be silent, performant and don't have the weight of the typical tumblr user.
>Mobo
The Asus is already one of the cheaper option. The only real Z170 alternatives would be the MSI Z170A PC Mate and the ASRock Z170 Pro4, but the price difference is marginal.
>Case
Such as? I selected this one because it's fairly priced and has everything i need, as i mentioned, i won't make the same mistake twice.
>RAM
This is already very cheap (cheapest one is 71€, crucial is 76€) and i need 16GB for work.

>>56441409
>212 evo
I see a lot of people recommending it.

Well it looks okay, im not familiar with the Fury. Is it the reference Fury? I seen good review about the Nitro Fury.

>>56441497
Damn son, who pissed in your cornflakes?

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In a need for a cheap and reliable Graphics Card

I already got a PC, I just need a new Graphics Card, because my old one doesn't work

My CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.00 GHz

My motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. M68MT-D3P (Socket M2)

RAM: 4.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)

PC Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition 1x120mm

Power Supply: A.PFC 550W FAN12 Ci-POWER CWT

Screen: Samsung SyncMaster S23B300, 23", Max resolution: FULL HD

I'll only use this card for browsing the internet and playing YouTube videos in FULL HD, nothing more, those are the ONLY things I'll do with it

The only 2 things I want from this card are:

1) It needs to be reliable, I want to use it as many years as possible

2) It needs to be the cheapest card possible (Taking in mind the fact that I want it to be reliable, and to use it as many years as possible

Thanks a lot!

>>56441492
I know it's recommended a lot but that may just be price/performance ratio, not taking into account noise level

it's this fury
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=fury-_-14-202-186-_-Product

If the guy who was planning to dual-SLI 1070 in a new fresh build is reading I hope you gave up on this shitty idea and got a single 1070 or a 1080.

>tfw no Rose gf

>>56441516
Radeon R7 250 2GB?

>>56441519
I see. Im not much of an expert on coolers so I dont really know.

But yeah, thats the nitro one.

-- Intel i7 4770 (w/ stock cooler [I know...] not overclocked)
-- ASUS z87k motherboard
-- ASUS gtx 670 (my 760 started dying on me a few weeks ago)
-- Intel 1tb HDD
-- Corsair hx760 PSU
-- Corsair Vengeance LP ddr3 8gb RAM (x2)
-- Corsair Carbide 300r case
-- Corsair AF 140mm (x3) & 120mm (x1) case fans

I wanted to get an i7 6700k, but I learned I would also have to get a new mobo and ddr4 ram, which significantly runs up the cost.

Would it be better to keep using my old parts and get another Haswell-e cpu and upgrade the other lacking parts or go for the Skylake and 'future-proof' the rig for newer Adobe and Autodesk programs (Photoshop with 30+ hi-res layers and Unreal run like bricks on this build).

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>>56441542
>yfw shes actually turned 30 this year

>>56441610
>wants to upgrade to memelake
At least wait for Kaby Lake or Cannon Lake.

>>56441409
The Cryorig H7 is quieter and cooler than the 212 evo while only being $5-10 more.

Are there any good motherboards with USB-C?

>>56441575
Thank you for replying

Out of those cards, Which one is the best? Which one will last the longest?


EVGA GT730 2GB DDR3
EVGA GT710 1GB DDR3
RADEON R7 250 GPU - 1GB 128bit GDDR5

>>56441610
Skylake is a decent chip but coming from your haswell setup, not worth the cost. With your board/chipset, you're pretty much locked in as to what stuff you can upgrade. You have to ask yourself this. What are you doing with this PC? Just gaming? Video editing? Architectural rendering? If not, an E series CPU and setup won't benefit you. If you do have need of more cores, then grab an X99/i7-6800k (6c12t) over a z170/97-6700k(4c8t). Going from your 4770 to 6770k isn't really worth the cost.

>>56441691
a shit load of boards offer USB-C now. Only like 1 or 2 ports of course as USB-C still isn't standard. I think even the antiquated 990FX chipset for AMD has some recent boards out now with USB-3.1/C.

Just go on Newegg, look for your desired chipset, set price range, and find one.

>>56441703
GT 730 and R7 250 looks about the same.
GT 710 is more like a competitor to a R7 240

I would go R7 250

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>>56441703
if all you're doing is watching 1080p and browsing, the GT710 is your best option. So long as the card is passively cooled and not some garbage 40mm fan model as they're extremely loud, and the fan is another point of failure for the card. Pic related. They even have the audacity of charging an additional $5 for the worse heatsink and shit fan. If your case has even a single low RPM fan on it, the 710 will barely reach 60C even when doing a lot.

>>56441703
>>56441758
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730-vs-AMD-R7-250/m12582vsm8217

Look here
250 looks like the way to go

>>56441773
He says he is only web browsing and streaming 1080p video. Not gaming. Why give him a card with cooling fans if he is going for longevity? Just something else that will start to grind and stop working after 2 years when the bearings in the fan die. More performance is irrelevant if the anon isn't gaming. Passive cooler nvidia card would be the way to go. I'd say the r5 240/230 if they made half way decent passive models.

>>56441817
I forgot about the gaming. 730 and 250 1gb were pretty close in price so I jumped on the 250.

>>56441764
Hey man, thanks for replying
Are you 100% that this card will last many years, and will be able to handle browsing and 1080p YouTube videos?
I really don't wanna buy a new card every year
>>56441773
>>56441817
Additional power is always good, as long as I don't have to compromise on the card's longevity

>>56441881
Whats your choice bro?

Thanks guys for the replies

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I've decided I'm going to buy an RX 480.

However, I have an AMD FX-6300 CPU clocked at 3.5Ghz.
Will this be a problem? Is my CPU too "low-tier" or something like that? Will it work well alongside this GPU? I ask because the CPU cost me $120 in 2012 (now sells for $90), and the GPU is $200-300.

>>56441949
GT710 like he said looks good.

>>56442017
What is your motherboard? Post pic/link? What's your cooler like? The FX-6300 isn't the greatest in regards to single core performance (what matters for many games). You have to make up for this with overclocking. The RX480 is essentially a lower wattage r9 390 in regards to gaming performance and while you won't be bottlenecking TOO hard, there will be some reduced performance because of the lack of CPU.

>>56440897
Her channel has been RIP for a year... Why do you do this to me OP?

>>56441625
OH WTF? Oh well at least she was born before the Feminism cancer generation.

>>56442052
Are you sure It'd really handle the browsing and 1080p vids for many years? 40$ for that sounds too good for me lol

If you say yes then I'll probably go for it.. So please consider it

(I'm no expert and I dont wanna throw money away and be disappointed, sorry for all those questions bro)

>>56442017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B58ciXUTlA8

I'll probably have some bottleneck but it wont make anything unplayable i believe.

Time to get an i5, pajeet.

>>56441276
yup yup, you can even get an app on your phone that you can sent torrents too and it will start the downloads on the NAS. Theres a pile of apps for it although I barely use any of it aside from the VPN server and downloader for torrents. If you wana know how I am doing it I have a nonfree VPN that I connect to and route all the traffic for torrents through it on the first NIC port and the other port goes to my computer.

>>56441277
What if your fans have no build? Come on man, no fans are quieter than having fans.

>>56441949
>Are you 100% that this card will last many years, and will be able to handle browsing and 1080p YouTube videos?

Yes undoubtedly. I paid $15 brand new for a Geforce 210 way back as a display card for the exact same thing you want out of a card. It lasted me in my backup PC for 3 years, and is currently in my little Sister's PC pushing 2 monitors. Well over 5 years of service now with no issues. Also runs cool.

>Additional power is always good, as long as I don't have to compromise on the card's longevity
Problem is the r7 250 is more power hungry as well. Which necessitates a cooler with a fan. Which provides another point of failure.

So long as you dust out your PC every once in a while so the card can breathe, the GT710 should do you fine.

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>>56442055
Here are my specs. I posted them earlier for advice, and /pcbg/ was the reason I decided to go with the RX480.
Note: That 8GB of Ram will now be 16.


>>56442115
>that video
Holy shit, never thought someone would make a video for exactly what I wanted and a cheap-ish CPU.
Cool, though. And nah, I wanna stick with AMD.

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>>56442108
not that anon but yes. Pic related is the ancient GT210 in my little sister's PC. It powers 1080p no problems. Even bargain bin Intel Celeron/Pentium integrated graphics can drive 1080p. The GT710 should have no problem at all.

>>56442108
My 5 year old low-mid end Amd has no problem with 1440p, the 710 should be good.

>>56440897
It seems like the R9 Fury is a median between the RX480/1060 and the 1070.

But, the R9 Fury is based on the old architecture. I feel guilty buying old architecture. Is there a rational reason not to buy old architecture? Less driver support? Less OC potential? Higher temps?

>>56442161
Is pic related your motherboard? (They also made a revision with it in black). If so, look up guides for overclocking piledriver. (Fairly straight forward. I had an FX-6300 @ 5.0ghz and my FX-9370 @ 5.5ghz both under custom liquid.)

Your motherboard was important because AMD requires a beefy voltage regulation section and decent northbridge cooling so the board doesn't throw up on itself. Even garbage binned FX-6300's can usually hit 4.4ghz @ 1.4v. Absolute max voltage is 1.55v for AMD and that's assuming you have 100% locked Load line calibration. I popped 2 Asus 990FX sabertooth motherboards pushing for 5.7ghz on my FX-9370. 1.7v+ for too long is bad.

>>56442161
Go ahead, get it then
I will obviously not guarantee those +120fps like those overclocked i7 6700k but the modern games 50-80fps are obviously playable.

>>56442161
and to add onto >>56442244, what cooler/Power supply do you have? Those are VERY important. I'd recommend a Hyper 212 EVO type cooler as the minimum for any decent OC. And if your PSU isn't at least bronze rated and 500w (minimum), I don't recommend OCing at all.

>>56442243
I dont know, but I would just save for a 1070 just to be sure.

>>56442137
>>56442177
>>56442194
Thank you guys
So that's it, I'm going for it
Last final question: Does Windows 10 supports the GT 710?
I don't know how to check those things, I'm sorry for having so many questions lol

>>56442310
No problemo

Here are the win10 drivers for the Gt710
Just download it when you get it

http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/87789

>>56442293
does anyone have a graph comparing 1070 reference/custom cards?

>>56442330
Windows won't download it automatically?

>>56442334
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html#17902598

Scroll down to 1070.
Good nvidia gpus are MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte

>>56442369
Im not certain. The link is just to be sure.

>>56442412
OK, thanks a lot man, you really helped me!

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>>56442244
Yes, it's my mobo. It's not the black one, it's pic related. I think it's revision 3, the latest one. But I'm not sure.

>look up guides for overclocking piledriver. (Fairly straight forward. I had an FX-6300 @ 5.0ghz)
Cool, I'll try this out.

>>56442272
My PSU is CORSAIR HX750 750W 80+Gold.
The cooler is some Zalman-brand one that is pretty eh.
I know the Hyper 212 EVO is the best, however, I wasn't a fan of the way to install it (with the backplates and stuff). I wanted one I could placed right on top of the CPU.

Your thoughts? Thanks very much.

>>56442271
>+120fps
Nah, don't need that. 60 is fine.

>>56441485
Well cases are largely a personal preference. I'm just pointing out a Full Tower isn't really needed unless you're running stuff like RAID or Watercooling. You can fit most dogs inside a friggin full tower. A mid tower would take up less room, be cheaper and still probably fit everything you want. Like a Rosewill R5
Just make sure your case is big enough for your HSF.

In regards to HSF, most are silent. But if silence is a priority, you picked the right brand.
A heatsink fan is only really important if you're going to overclock your CPU. If you're not going to OC then you might as well buy a GA-H110M-A MOBO as it's only $50.
But if you do wanna OC and possibly run SLI in the future, you can still buy a GA-H170-Gaming 3 or B150M Mortar both around $85. That should be even less in Euros, if you can find a seller for that price.

Be careful using an miniITX board though, it makes building a bit harder.
I'd be interested to hear what work you do that needs 16gb of ram. Maybe CAD?
You can run basic work and windows 10 on a fucking toaster.

>>56442095
>Rose was born on April 5th, 1986.[1] Her earliest known Internet activity comes from 2003, which includes profiles created on sites such as LiveJournal and DeviantArt.

>In 2007, she began to upload videos to her YouTube channel Randytaylor69.[4] In 2011, she created a secondary, game-specific YouTube channel under the name Roseplaysgames.[5] Both accounts ceased activity in 2013.
Milf

Hey guys, anyone have a good link for a pirated windows?

>>56442451
Ok your motherboard should hold up for a half way decent OC. Your Power supply is good as well. Zalman coolers while ugly are actually OK depending on the cooler. Just find your thermal ceiling of what your cooler can handle. Use a program like Prime95 blend test to see how hot your CPU gets at stock. If you're even approaching 60C at stock, the cooler isn't up to the task.

Other than that, you'll be good to go. If you're buying the RX480, save a little more and grab a good cooler in the $50 range. I still have the same giant chunk of aluminum cooler I bought 5 years ago for $90. Money spent on a good cooler is money well spent.

>>56442570
https://kickass.unblocked.live/windows-7-ultimate-with-sp1-x64-genuine-iso-untouched-windows7-tt7221867.html

>>56442471
Getting Roswill cases is bad in EU. An option would be the Fractal Design R5, similar price, but midi.
I picked a Z170 mobo because future OC and the recommendation from the wiki, i won't use SLI though.
Not CAD, but VM's and other shit in general and since RAM isn't that pricey anymore, why not? I' currently on my laptop and i'm using 7506/8109MiB RAM.

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>>56442591
Cool man, thanks a lot for your help. What cooler do you have?
I honestly haven't dusted off the inside of my Rig since January, so it's probably struggling. I was playing WoW earlier and my CPU was at 80C and GPU at 90.

Right now I have Chrome open with about 10 tabs, one of them streaming a video on YouTube. The CPU is at 37C. It was at 55 a second ago when I opened up Speccy though, haha.

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>Due to USB 3.0 controller limitation, USB 3.0 devices can only be used under Windows OS environment and after the USB 3.0 driver installation.
Should I really trust this information? I can't believe that GNU/Linux don't have a solution for this problem!

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>>56442660
Currently have pic related sitting on my 6700k because it's easier to access the RAM slots and pcie locking mechanism. Thermaltake Frio140 Silent. $40, performs a little better than the Hyper 212 EVO, and the heatsink is thinner.

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>>56442764
and this is my cooler I retired after 5 years of faithful service. I didn't like the way the fans mounted because the clips would rattle a bit. This is the cooler that held my FX-9370 @ 4.8ghz after I ditched my liquid setup. Thermaltake Frio Extreme.

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>>56442764
Thanks, and thanks again your your replies anon! Really appreciate it man.
I'm watching a video on how to OC my FX6300. Sounds pretty simple so far.

>>56442816
not a problem. Basic rules of thumb. No more than 1.55v EVER. No more than 62C at an absolute max for 100% load temps. Done and done. Enjoy.

>found a comfy internship job at a comfy company
>decide to make a desktop because my computer is crapping out
>6 weeks later got let go
>no barely any extra cash to build a fast desktop

>>56442764
Sorry, is it the Thermaltake Frio Silent 12 or 14? 120mm or 140mm fan?

https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Silent-Intel-Cooler-CL-P001-AL12BL-B/dp/B00TUKLAHI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1473111348&sr=8-1&keywords=thermaltake%2Bfrio%2Bsilent%2B12

>>56443171
>internship
>job
pick one(1)

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Any tips to improve this while staying at roughly the same price range? I feel like its pretty generic and safe but this is my first build so any help is appreciated.

650 USD is roughly what it comes out to now.

>>56443523
>GTX 960
a literal waste of money. Go for 4gb rx470 for the same price that also offers 50% more performance

>>56440979
It's a mixture of people having no clue and repeating what the SSD fetichists spout.

>>56443523
You dont need a Hyper 212 with a locked i3 cpu. Use the stock one.

H110 mobos dont support Ram frequencies above 2133. Get a LPX 2x4gb (for dual channeling) 2133mhz.

>>56443523
Put this ram instead

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LK4NnQ/corsair-memory-cmk8gx4m2a2133c13

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vtXfrH/crucial-memory-ct2k4g4dfs8213

>le attention whore uses attention whores

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QUICK QUESTION /G/UYS

Will an Asus GTX 1080 Strix card fit in a Corsair 250D case?

>>56443840

Anyone?? I'm about to order and need to know

>>56443876
Just return it if it doesnt fit

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QUESTION for those of you with a Hyper 212 EVO in your rig:

Here's a photo of my inside. Will installing a Hyper 212 EVO be in the way of my RAM sticks? I'd hate for that to be so.
As seen in my pic, I have 2/4 slots used, but I plan to buy 2 more sticks.

>>56443965
It'll be close, but it won't touch. You can also turn it if it does touch.

>>56443965
>that cpu 8-pin cable
holy christ. with most mobos you can route that around behind the mobo so it only pokes out a little from the top. Is that not an option here?

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2 Questions:

1. Do I need an aftermarket cooler for a locked 6600?

2. Is there anything wrong with having a mATX motherboard inside an ATX case?

>>56444381
No
Yes you space wasting savage

>>56440897
would an i5 6600 bottleneck a GTX 1070?

For an extra $100 I could make it a build with Z170, an aftermarket HSF, and an i5 6600k to OC.

>Worried about my hard drive
>It's "Warning" level

>Can't seem to find any reliable information on 2TB HDDs

Anyone got some advice my budgets around 60.

>>56444381
>No
>No

>>56444797
The fuck
Of course it won't

can I play games for $450?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QbFzf8

>>56440931
Wait for amds answer to the 1070

>>56441121
Seconding

>>56445722
That processor is old as fuck. I'd save some cash and get a 2GB version of that video card; I don't even know if it can even use more than 2GBs. Skip the case fan; you don't need it. Buy a higher quality power supply. Buy a 120GB SSD.

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>haven't bought a GPU in years
>look at the RX 480
>mfw it comes in either 4GB or EIGHT GB

My word has stuff evolved over time.

Well, which should I get? Should I even get the RX 480 or do you lads have a better recommendation? I know the NVIDIA 1060 and 1070 are being compared to it.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vr2H2R

gonna use this for creating apps and website in android/visual studio
definetly use it for gaming
vm gonna try it testing alot of distro

i already have the mobo and monitor

>>56445837
i'd 100% of the time go with the 6gb 1060, because it's the same price as the 8gb 480 but it's a good bit faster in almost every single game, ~~15%faster on average
the 1070 shouldnt be compared to it as it's in a totally different price/resolution category
and if you're going for hte 4gb 480 because it's cheaper you should get a 4gb 470 instead, because it retains like 95% of the performance of the 480

>>56445846
you might want to go for wd blues instead of seagates, and dont fall for the corsair aio meme, get a kraken or something else instead
also that psu is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overkill

>>56446054
good info to consider, thanks

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>>56446054
Now, what about the RX 470/480 vs 1060?

>>56446054
I just bought the SINGLE FAN evga 1060 non-superclocked for $250(actually $0 cus everything on amazon is free l0l) and it is stables with a 2050 boost clock. According to some US public education math skils it is 78% as fast as a stock 1070.

NOT TOO SHABBY.

BUT TO THIS GUY >>56445837
>>56445837
I bought this card because it does better in the games that I play most often. Namely Blizzard shit. New AAA titles can swing either way. I literally can't play Dues Ex on max(not that i'm going to buy it) and that kind of sucks. I get ~120fps in Doom on max but AMD does better. You are most likely upgrading for a reason, there is a game you want to play that you can't play now. What game is it? Look up benchmarks.

Also consider that there are great deals on some of the last gen cards. Like the fury for $300, etc.

>>56446100
how about i mix seagates and wd blues?

seagate already fixed their memes

>>56446161
>Namely Blizzard shit.
>You are most likely upgrading for a reason, there is a game you want to play that you can't play now. What game is it?

WoW, I guess. Just re-subbed. I don't really do much gaming besides that, especially for new games. I hardly play new games. I just figure it's time to upgrade my GPU (I still have a GTX 580), as I'm upgrading other pieces, and WoW has the GPU reach 80C. Same goes for other nice looking games on the PC (Ryse Son of Rome for example.).

>>56446149
so it goes like this
6gb 1060>8gb 480>8gb 470
the gap between the 1060 and the 480 is much larger than the one between the 480 and the 470, and even the 3 gb 1060 yields higher fps in most games than any variant of the 480 or 470, but is still an iffy decision because in increasingly more games 3gb isn't enough even for 1080p, so if you plan on not upgrading for a while or just play very demanding games like battlefield one or deus ex mankind divided-because they can need more than 3gb of vram in some cases when fully maxed out- then you'd be better off going with a 4gb 480 or 470

>>56446213
1060 all day nigga.Nvidia is much better in WoW. Same reason I upgraded. Keep in mind that my i3 6100 is bottlenecking the shit out of the card in that game. A 2500k would be way better. On max settings and 100% render scaling I can get down to 45 fps at intensive segments.

>>56446230
>>56446236
looks like the 6GB 670 it is lads. thank you.

Do we have a preferred manufacturer? EVGA? ASUS? GIGABYTE? MSI? Zotac?

>>56446190
ah dint know they stopped their shenanigans

>>56446149
Word on the street is the 1060 will be about 10-15% ahead of a 480 on a title like Battlefield 1.

caveat: DX11 tests rather than DX12

>>56446268
>670
im assuming you mean a 1060
and it _really_ doesnt matter which aib you go with nowadays unless you're getting the best of the best of that sku, think and evga classified 1060 versus a zotac amp extreme 1060, because at that level, there is a noticeable amount of variance between them, but if you're thinking of either a slightly low end 1060 evga superclocked or an msi armour the difference is negligable.
also, getting the highest thing availavle in a given product stack-such as a zotac amp extreme- is a meme because they're so much more expensive it would be better to just go up a tier and in this example get a low end 1070

Anyone got any recommendations on long life hard drives?

I'd like to replace my Seagate. looking in the 2TB range.

>>56446268
>>56446328
also, the 1060 core is great little chip because even the founders edition cooler is good enough to let it boost itslef all the way to to 2ghz, even the single fan mini modles will do the same, so it really just comes down to which one is cheapest, which at this point i think is the zotac mini edition

>>56446349
look at the new seagate skyhawk lineup, they're great for round the clock reads/writes, just never conks out

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>>56446328
>>670
>im assuming you mean a 1060
fug. yeah, I meant the 1060.

>>56446357
>so it really just comes down to which one is cheapest, which at this point i think is the zotac mini edition

is it this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500402

because WOW that's small. it's also out of stock, too.

>>56446377

I was going to switch to a WD or HSGT seeing as how they're so inexpensive.

I have my PC running constantly.

These are my in-stock options for the 6GB 1060 on Newegg right now.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=6gb+1060&N=8000%204018%204019&isNodeId=1


which 2 cop?

>>56446268
I went with evga singlefan because when I get some more money I'm going to sell my i3 and b150 board for a 6600k and z170 itx and get a itx case. I'm pretty sure the temperatures are not the limiting factor in my OC and that is on the single fan ITX model card, so I suggest going with that. Having a small card is nice.

Oh, I got fucked here. The DVI port is DVI-D which means you can't use that vga adapter that cards used to come with and DVI-D cables are like $40 at Staples. I had to connect my second monitor to my igpu for now. It has 1 hdmi, 3 display port, and the dvi-d. My monitors are both dvi/vga.

>>56446391
if you dont want seagate then just look at drives labeled "surveillance grade" from other manufacturers

>>56446411
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125903&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=6gb_1060-_-14-125-903-_-Product
dis one

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>>56446485
It's so small and cute.
Man, I'm coming from a big ass GTX580.
Stupid question: but why is it so small? It still has the same power as the larger sized cards? I have room in my case.

>>56440897
will the fact that I buy AMD shit get me closer to that qt 3.15?

>>56441625
hey we're the same age, does that mean I have more chances than you kids?

>>56446384
Are the mini 1060s worse than the bigger 1060s in any way? I'm guessing they're hotter since it's more cramped.

>>56446526
it's small because the pcb layout allows for all the components to be just kind...smooshed closer together, and the core is cool enough to be fine wiht just a single fan
now as to the same power, in the sense that it will deliver 100% of the fps that a larger version of it would, yeah, you couldnt tell the differnce between this and another 1060 form a benchmark, but in hte sense of litteral electrical power, no, to save space they havent added extra power phases or connectors. read that i said they havent "added" any, not that they took some off of hte original design, they just didnt go throught hte trouble of beefing it up, so this card has the same power delivery systema s a founder board

>>56440897
I want to marry her

>>56446615
they're "hotter" in the sense that yeah they're literally hotter than one with 90 pounds of copper on it like the zotac amp extreme edition, but it doesnt effect performance even a little bit, because they rarely even egt to 70C even under very heavy loads

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dQPMbj

how overkill is this fan?

>>56443538
>50%

20%

>>56446992
Depends on if you're overclocking, which it looks like you wanna do

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>>56446667
>>56446628
>>56446485

Hey, just wanna say thanks man. I just bought the one you linked, the ITX Gigabyte 6GB 1060. Can't wait for it to arrive. Have a good one, and all of you too /g/

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>>56440897
Still don't know if it's a male or a female

>>56447069
You're retarded. It's about 50%. Pic related.

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my budget machine

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WYQTnn

>>56445722
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QbFzf8
m8, get a better CPU. That one is based on Bulldozer/Piledriver, which are dead. Wait for the Zen APUs next year or get a Skylake i3-6100

>>56447376
Get something better than a 950. It can't even maintain 30FPS in the DE:MD benchmark on Medium. Buy used with intact warranty if you're going that low

>>56447418
any recommendations to replace my 950 with?

>>56447462
rx 470

>>56447462
Used 4GB 380 or 380x, if you're the person with this build >>56447376

>>56447376
Also you don't need a cooler. The stock cooler (comes with the i3) will be fine.

Other things to consider:
>~250GB SSD
>3000mhz RAM (if mobo supports it)
>2TB HGST hard drive

Will tb3 external GPU become a thing.

>>56447376
Also your case and the mobo are different form factors, not sure if that case has proper mounts

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Does jet.com care if you just keep making new accounts to use their promo codes? I got a voice message recently about potential fraud and I'm afraid to call back.

Does anyone else have experience with them?

>>56447698
they 100% care and will cancel all of your orders.

>>56447698
One friend of mine did this and the FBI got him.
Locked away for 28 years in a federal prison in Arkansas. Poor Joey.

Dont do this with your life.

do I need a ups? Will a 80+ gold help against surges or no?

>>56447992
Just buy a surge protector. The PSU rating reflects the power supply's efficiency, not protection against surges.

I'm buying a 144hz 1080p monitor for my gtx 1060 but wow and overwatch both need a stronger cpu than my i3 6100 for that. It seems like the 6600k might be fine just running at stock but I have a p67 mobo I'm not using and a oc 2500k($95) seems to be equal to a 6600k. Do I buy a 2500k, 6600k. Or just a 6500?

>>56448192
Should mention the reason the 6600k woild be running at stock is because I have a b150 mobo

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thinking about pulling the trigger. I'm a bit of a nub. what can i swap/improve?

>>56448192
>>56448202
Should have gone Freesync if you can't afford G-sync

Lock to 72FPS and you'll be fine with the 6100

>>56448192
>wow and overwatch both need a stronger cpu than my i3 6100 for that
Any benches? WoW, at least, should be fine... no?

>>56448236
If he is getting below 144Hz, he can just keep Vsync off.

>>56448231
I think you need new speakers

>>56448231
Make sure the case supports the uATX form factor.
Get the i5-6500
Buy a Freesync monitor or a used 1080p 60Hz monitor if you can't afford a decent freesyc monitor
Consider 3000mhz RAM
Consider an SSD

>>56448280
My finger slipped whoops

>>56448282
Should i stay away from cheapo SSDs? I'm a student so I'm really looking for a good performance/value balanced build.

>>56448276
Nope. It is extremely cpu intensive. I got roughly the same fps with a [email protected] and 560ti vs a i3 6100 and 1060 @2.05ghz. I get 45 fps at intensive parts and ~80 during low stress single player situations

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>>56440897
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/6TxPXH

Feedback on this build please.

I currently already own a 980, and im considering buying a second one for SLI.

I also want to try out watercooling but know jack shit.

>>56448231
$378 is a lot of money for that video card.

>>56448328
this.

shit nigga you can get a 1070 for that

>>56448308
>cheapo SSDs
Read reviews, but decent ones are only a few dollars more expensive. I'd get 250GB, but if you're looking for a cheap build, you can just get one later.

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>>56448328
$378 NZD tho

>>56448348
Will an SSD affect my frame rate in vidya? I know it makes load times slick

>>56448361
No it wont

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is this build decent? i know the cpu and psu aren't great but it should work right?

>>56448328
>>56448345
The i5 is also really expensive, so I'm sure he's not from the US, but it's likely that the 1060 would be a much better value proposition as long as he's not Canadian

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>>56440979
Same reason people put pieces of tape over their laptop webcam

>>56448361
No but it'll make things like map loading times faster

>>56448368
No, get a DDR4 platform. You don't need a cooler. Get the 1070, not the 1080, if your resolution requires it

>>56448324
I don' know why you'd cheap out on the SSD. Might as well get a 950 PRO since you have some money to spent.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147467&cm_re=nvme-_-20-147-467-_-Product

>>56448308
Cheap SSDs are okay. Just check the reviews.

>>56448388
i already have most of the parts and my stock cooler was broken i guess. for some reason it would get to 90c at idle. so i had to get a cooler

and i have a 1440p monitor so the 1080 is helpful

>>56448371
There's no 1060 around the price of that card though. From what I've heard the rule of thumb is that AMD cards have better value for money at a lower price range.

>>56448402
It's not nearly 2x the price helpful

>>56448401
It's not that expensive it's just in australiabux

>>56448402
I have 1440p 144hz monitor and from what I've read the 1070 should be enough to max or almost-max for a few years

>>56448368
Why would you buy the V300 when the V400 is better and cheaper?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820242257

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>>56448350
>>56448371
>>56448378

http://nz.pcpartpicker.com/list/kQnZwV

This is a link to the build

>>56448412
>From what I've heard the rule of thumb is that AMD cards have better value for money at a lower price range.

Not right now. The prices are currently outrageous. You can get a 1060 for $200 and it'll outperform the 480 in most games.

>>56448412
>From what I've heard the rule of thumb is that AMD cards have better value for money at a lower price range
Not really at release, but they do last longer. Also in CPU intensive DX11 games they can be hampered by the driver overhead. GTAV is an example. FO4 is an example too, but you can install a dynamic shadows mod to fix the problem

>>56448447
>>56448449
Is a 4GB 960 going to have better performance than the RX470?

>>56448468
No.

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so far today, I've changed the mobo, ram, and case. anything else I should do before I buy?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hBpyKZ

>>56448433
You just need DDR4-2133mhz, your motherboard cant use any higher

>>56448468
Fuck no. See >>56447298

>>56448486
Ask yourself whether you're really going to bother to OC the CPU, and if not just get the i5-6500 and a cheaper mobo and drop the cooler

>>56446485
/comfy/

what kind of ram do i get? i want 8gb ddr4

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BWvgbj

>mfw I bought this last year
>mfw it is more expensive now than it was a year ago

I made a good decision

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>>56448518
I probably won't OC but I tell myself I will
how much could I save?

>>56448542
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/BWvgbj
Sorry to bust your bubble, but those prices are really off. You can get the 8GB 480 (superior to the 8GB 390) for $250. Parts end up expensive when they quit getting produced

>>56448568
$200

>>56448542
You're baiting right?

>>56448605
what mobo would you suggest? they're the component I know the least about

im building a high end pc with a 1070 and a i7 6700k what mother board do i get.

>>56448662
An H110 instead of Z110. You get to completely drop the cooler, too

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>>56441014
This is my card and it fits. However, you're not gonna be able to fit a CD drive in there though

>>56448744
forgot the link! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150678

I want to stream vidya so I'm wondering whenever I should buy 6600k or 6700k CPU. Obvouly 6700k is better ,but how much better? Is it worth the extra cash for this type of thing?

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My current build is running at ~50C idle air cooled (2x 140mm intake and 120mm exhaust). The temperature in my room is currently ~23C.

Are these temps normal? Anything easy I can do to make it a little bit cooler? Is there a point where adding more fans become useless? Or am I better off getting replacement fans with more airflow?

I need a minimalist case. Preferably black.

>>56448864
fractal design define r5.

>>56448783
if it's console games, the 6600k will be fine

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I'm going to do a dual-GPU build for PCI-passthrough, but I'm not sure if I want to go with a micro-ATX case, or stay in my midsize Corsair 200R.

What will I be missing out on if I have to use all of my expansion slots on my GPUs and don't have any leftover? I don't think I need a sound card, PCI SSD, TV tuner, or network or wifi card. Is there something really useful that I'm forgetting?

Sapphire Fury non X for 370 europoors. Worth it? I'm going to be playing in 1080p and would like to have the card for at least two years.

>>56445802
okay how about this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWkhkT

I know the specs are shit, I just want a decent pc that can play some games, It will beat the shit out of my current a6 apu. Is a SSD really worth it? After reading some reviews it seems an 880k would be money better spent.

Do PC parts get cheaper on Black Friday/Cyber Monday? I've been wanting to get a new GPU and PSU, but I don't know whether I should wait or not.

How hard will a Intel Pentium G3258 bottleneck a RX 480?

>>56442471
less in euros? top kek all the EU parts are +30% compared to US parts

>>56449263
Yeah a bit, but ask yourself, would I rather save $40-50 and maybe not even get the thing I want because this was a little cheaper, or get your parts now, and have a working machine to use?

Getting deja-vu reading some of the replies here.

Anyway, here's something I'm planning for Christmas for my little brother. I live within 50 miles of a micro center so I'm hoping to get some free time and get some of the pricier parts before December rolls around.

Any warnings or criticism are welcome.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyJjZ8

>>56449747
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZyJjZ8
Dont buy a 970 for 360 wtf are you doing, The next step up is the same price and cheaper for a gigabyte ITX gtx 960
also that cooler should come with paste, shouldn't need a tube of the stuff.

>>56440931
D15, it's like a water cooler but its heavy ass heatsink

>>56449747
You can get a better performing CPU cooler for the price, Cryorig C1 for the top down look. Or a tower heatsink Cryorig H7, shit performs better than the CM 212

Why are you paying so much for a 970? RX 480 or GTX 1060 is a much better choice

Why do you need a Ethernet adapter while your mobo has one already

>>56449779
I just get more paste every now and then if I overclock and switch fans for water cooling, although you're right, most coolers come with pre-applied coats of paste.

I hadn't really considered a gigabyte gpu but I'll look into them, I was looking at ones with gtx 970 and 1070 mainly. 960 seems a bit outdated although it'll should still be perfectly fine for light gaming shit my brother wants and for some cad he has to do. Thanks anon.

>>56449904
Sometimes built in adapters on the mobo are shit. I trust asus but just in case, you know? If it's not needed I'll just use it for another build or stick it in an old inspiron 530s that I'm giving to my cousin if they want it.

>>56449372
Assuming you can overclock it to oblivion (+4.4ghz)

then none bottlenecks

>>56449904
Also I'm still iffy on the gpu, I'm looking towards 970 in general but 960 would do nicely.

With the fan, I want one that won't have issues with the case, the h7 is pretty sweet, though. I'll probably go after that.

It really is
/pcag/ - PC Assembly General

>>56449109
Fury is a high res card. Overkill for 1080p. If you're at a high refresh rate, you'll need a fast Intel CPU to drive the Fury. If you're europoo, isn't NVIDIA a way better value proposition? A 1060 will definitely last two years at 1080p.

>>56449174
AMD just announced new cheap APUs on the AM4 platform.. I'd wait a week and see what's up with them. You'll be able to use DDR4 and probably upgrade to Zen later. Looks like the B350 chipset is what you'll want

I would get a used 380x instead of a 2GB 460, and you can add an SSD later when you have enough money to spend on 250GB

>>56449372
Hard, some games shit themselves if your CPU has only two available threads

>>56449747
Looks ok, GPU is pretty expensive. Where do you live?

>>56450398
>some games shit themselves if your CPU has only two available threads
Not him but, I was considering an i3 6100 with a 1060 (but I won't buy the gpu until later). Would that be a bad idea too?

>>56450459
No, it'll be fine. An i3 has four threads

oi lads

are there any new passively cooled video cards on the market now that have evolved from the likes of the 7850 scs3 from a few years back or has the somewhat midrange 0Db line of development ceased?

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Should I stop being a cheap prick and just spend more on my CPU?
I know the PSU is overkill but I figure cheaping out on the power supply is probably a bad idea. I know the case is a bit pricey considering what I'm putting in but I already have that.
Was considering changing to a 1x8g crucial..... but the price difference is fuck all.

Anyway, comments /g/ents?

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>>56451519
why not get the gtx 950 instead of the 750? itll cost you less and i read this article it pretty much smokes the 750 out of the water

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/FDx9TW/evga-video-card-02gp42956kr

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>>56451519
im currently thinking of a i3 computer as well. some of these guys might look at the i3 and their autism starts firing up. but im playing on an i3 from 2010 and ive played wow and league and ive never had a problem. sures its not as good as an i5. like no shit lol. but unless youre some hardcore crack gamer the new skylake i3s will probably hold up fine

im fairly new to the whole pc building community too. but i literally have an aserpergers friend whos all about this shit. all he does is sit on his computer. he said all ram is pretty much ram. as long as its a well known name it wont make much of a difference

this is the build im going for which will have pretty much the same specs as you. i got an hdd instead of an sdd and a micro atx instead of a regular one

if anyone has any comments or suggestions im open to advice

>>56441121
>him

Does the difference from DDR4-2133 to 2400-3000 justify a Z170 mobo?

>>56452393
from what i read youre better off spending that money elsewhere

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>>56452052
Yeah it does seem to have quite better performance according to your pic..... unfortunately it would be about an extra $50-$60 bucks and my local retailer doesn't have any stock.
I've already upgraded just about everything so far from what initial build plan was (keep thinking to myself "oh it's only an extra $50 buck it's cool"..... but have done that 4 or 5 times now) so the budget is starting to get a bit tight.
Cheers for the suggestion though, somethin to think about.

>>56452148
Thatss the case I had initially decided on....... before deciding to spend a little more.
Now I'm no expert here so I may be missing something, but how about you go for a 1x8gb stick of ram for now, then when you have a spare $40 down the road you could buy a second one and just pop it in.

>>56452460
i think a good amount of people probably buy another stick of ram later on when they can. which is probably better in the long run lol. but i read using two sticks instead of one gives a small boost in performance. its supposed to split the stress between them two or something. when and if i ever decide to upgrade though ill probably have to two out my old ram cause mixing and matching 4gs and 8gs can work but "isnt reccomended"

>>56440931
If you want to save money on the HSF you can just get a Hyper 212 Evo, my friend has a 970 with that fan and never gets to more than 60 degrees. I have a 280x and never get more than 40.

>Labor Day sales on Newegg
>ASUS R9 380 for $177
>kept staring at the page, wondering if I really needed it
>tfw didn't buy it
>tfw infinite regret

>>56452424
I see.

>>56452742
>>56452460

oh yeah and if youre trying to save a bit of cash like me it might be a good idea to wait till black friday / cyber monday. im sure if we could all just go no fap on our computer splurge for 2 more months we can save money and possibly even get better hardware

>>56452438
>buying windows
>750w
Europeans are truly cucks

>>56452778
Any card you can reccomend when cyber monday comes around? I don't need a monster card or anything, but I feel like a 280x is too outdated now even though it's never given me any issues.

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Anyone have any qualms about Patriot Viper RAM. I need to pick up RAM from Frys and this is the only one I can get that I can use price match to get rid of that retarded markup they have.

>>56452792
What's the best option for pirating Windows 10. I'm about to cuck myself too because I don't want to spend my night trying out 5 different ISOs

>>56452852
I dont really know since i'm using pirate Win7.

If Win7 is good for you just search for "Windows 7 Ultimate with SP1 X64 Genuine Untouched ISO"

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>computer started crashing in games about a week or two ago
>got more frequent as time went on
>run passmark95
>fine
>run memtest86
>fine
>run heaven benchmark
>fine
plz help

>>56452837
i mean i cant exactly tell you which cards are gunna be on sale. only the retailers know what prices theyre going to set them at. best thing you could do is set a budget for yourself. wether it be 200.. 300.. or whatever. find a few cards in that price range and compare the specs between them. then when the holiday shopping rush comes along see which ones had price cuts. that way youll have options to choose from and you can find the best deal between them

>>56452393
I've read that 2133 is the standard and anything above that is a factory overclock with no real difference in quality.

>>56453355
Nice.

>>56452918
prob. your psu is being overloaded, get a better or new psu

how does this look for gayman, shitpostan and animu watchan?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/WqFBjc

>>56453601
look like quality to me. all good parts

for a gaming machine ill give it an 8/10. plenty of power to play whatever whenever. my ONLY complaint is if youre not gaming its actually too much power lol. depends on who you are

>>56452918
memory possibly, every fucking time its the memory for me, fucking ram

>>56440897
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RxLzf8 I upgraded my build to have faster RAM, any other tips?

>>56453873
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RxLzf8
why windows 7? you do know that in the future when you want to upgrade you wont be able to use the latest cpus with your current windows 7 license key?

unless you're planning on running gnu/linux or bsd in the future just get windows 10 like every other good goy

>>56453913
I like aero more than flaterial, and I don't plan on upgrading anytime soon.

>>56453944
y-you know you can customize skines r-right

Anons, I live in shitty South America, where finding a good piece of technology in store is harder than killing the Political Leader in mandate, so my question is, can you recommend somewhere to buy a monitor with international shipping, and trusted to not crack its screen during shipment?

>>56452778
>>56452837
Cyber Monday doesn't exist, buy on Black Friday or be left with the leftovers

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>>56453563
My PSU voltages looked off in HWMoniter but ive heard its pretty inaccurate
>>56453859
I was thinking that as well but I didn't encounter any problems in memtest

>>56454052
are you serious? i bou ght my gw2765 on a cyber monday. yes black friday has the best deals but they're incredibly hard to find
e.g. sales only happen for x minutes or during x hour
there's deals on cyber monday but the bulk of good deals are on black friday.

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Thoughts?
I think I might be going a little overboard on the PSU, wattage for my build clocks in around 300W.
CPU would likely be the first thing to be upgraded eventually and I'd probably get an SSD around that time too.

Can my 2 year old Z97 motherboard handle GTX 1080 SLI ?
It's a GA-Z97X-UD5H-BK.

I assume SLI means SLI? Doesn't matter what kind of GPU?

>>56452918
Install arch

>>56443965
using a define nano s and the same ram but it looks like your ram slots are further away

I just took off a heat spreader on one side of one ram stick

need to replace them with low-profile ram anyway

>>56454304
No, I checked, 24/7, through like a dozen sites last year because "cyber" Monday's "online" "deals" sounded better, but in reality Cyber Monday is literally just the leftovers of Black Friday
Many of the items on sale on Monday were the exact same ones on a better sale on Black Friday
Don't wait until Monday, for your own good

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Is it true that this fan is good if you don't overclock?
I don't want to spend $$ for new fan and I have been reading this works fine for the CPU.

>>56454357
650 is fine, any lower and you're risking the crap shoot quality PSUs, 650 is more than enough for you but it's really a standard for a single card non-OC computer

>>56454980
That's why it's included with that CPU
Because it's meant to be used with that CPU

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>>56454980

It will fare fine, it is meant for use with the CPU otherwise it wouldn't be packaged with it.

However, I would advise looking into a quieter cooling solution; as the stock heatsink is quite loud.

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I will be building a new pc soon, and im getting caught up on the Amd rx 480. Is it actually any good(I'll be playing games like gta v, skyrim, 7 days to die) and what would be a good cpu for it?

>>56454357
PSU's run best at half their load, so what you have is perfect if you want your PSU to perform at it's best. In addition, if you get a 2nd 1070 and run SLI, then you'll need the headroom.
Overclocking will draw more power too.

Also, you are using a MICRO motherboard. There's really no reason not to use a full sized. MicroITX/ATX are meant for Mini-PC cases. They're harder to work with, especially if you put an aftermarket heatsink fan on; you're gonna have a bad time.

And you will need a aftermarket heatsink fan if you wanna Overclock.

You don't NEED an SSD, but they're pretty cheap. Consider getting one. Most people are impatient.

>>56455185
Yeah it's good, but currently overpriced a tad.. You might wanna wait a bit for prices to drop.

If you're gonna wait (and I am too), you might as well hold off for a Zen chip late this year or early next.

>>56455229
>mini-PC
My mATX build is basically as big as my buddies fucking enthoo evolv
MATX is basically the same as ATX, there's no loss of functionality or connections for the average user
ITX really starts to lose (maybe) important things like multiple PCIe spots and 4 ram slots down to 2

Is it worth buying an i5-6600k just to get double the performance of my shitty amd cpu?

>>56455261
Is zen really going to be a big enough improvement to wait that long? And do you think a 490 will be out by that time?

>>56455185
No, a 3GB 1060 can actually beat the RX480 8GB in a lot of games.

that dude looks like a girl lol

is he swedish/finnish or whatever

>>56455323
But
>muh housefires
>muh directx 12 support
>muh better architecture

>>56455229
MATX isn't a mini PC, it's just not a fuckhuge PC

>>56455323
Will it be better than a 490, and i heard the 1060 wont offer sli

>>56453601
You can play pretty high-end games with that one at comfortable FPS.
That's a reasonably powerful computer.

It'll play about anything at high resolutions.
But at 1080, that's overkill.
Consider upgrading your monitor to something bigger or else you're wasting the potential of the computer.

>>56455437
>SLI with brand new cards
But y tho

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About CPU lanes.
Anyone know if there's a real world difference between 28 and 40 lane CPU?

I'm looking into getting a 6800k or the 6850k.
There's about a 200€ difference between them and the only thing I'm getting is the extra lanes for that price difference.
I'm not exactly dealing with a super tight budget here, but I don't want to throw money at virtually nothing, if there's no real benefit to this.
I've seen some benchmarks with SLI GPUs slightly benefiting from the additional lanes, but that's about it.

If I plan on using it with one GPU and maybe slap an extra PCIe SSDs there in the future to go with the M.2 one, will the 28 lanes be enough to last me for the foreseeable future?

>>56455352
MicroATX is generally for the 2 cases on the left. Whatever you want to call them.
The point I was making was he won't need to buy a cramped mobo that sacrifices options and ease of use.

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>>56455632
forgot picture xD

>>56450398
>Fury is a high res card. Overkill for 1080p. If you're at a high refresh rate, you'll need a fast Intel CPU to drive the Fury. If you're europoo, isn't NVIDIA a way better value proposition? A 1060 will definitely last two years at 1080p.

At the moment, 1060 and 480 aren't really that great value. 3GB 1060s are anywhere from 199 to 280, 6GB ones from 299 to 389 , 480s land in the middle. 980s can be had for similar money to 6GB 1060s, 390s and 390Xs are in the same ball park. Sapphire Furys have come down a lot in price recently, and now almost the same as the 390X and more expensive 1060s . So, at least to me, Fury seems pretty enticing. Even if I would be using it for 1080, that extra performance overhead could keep it in the game than some of the other cards. Though that 4GB Vram........

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Which box should I get?
Also they come with 2 fans preinstalled. Should I add another one in it?
Is there any essential tips or locations that a custom fan can make a big difference?

Should I get 470x or a 1060?

Which cpu is better for rx 470, intel or amd?

>>56455936
I mean core i3 6300

>>56455891
A 1060 because the 470X does not exist

Should I get a 4GB or 8GB RX470?

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Building my first real gaming PC, how is my first attempt and what could I switch out for better/cheaper parts? budget is $1500

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Just ordered 2 more 4k monitors for a hilariously low price, hope they go through
What GPU should I get for 11520 x 2160

>>56456048
Check out other HDD's, 5400RPM is way lower than the standard 7200. And while, yeah, 3TB is alot of space to fuck about with it'll be incredibly slow.

>>56456089
Will do.

>>56456117
Honestly what I'd go with is a 1TB HDD and then if you need more space go with an external HDD or just buy another 1TB.

>>56456048
Get the Cryorig H7 for your cooler. It looks much better, preforms better, and is easier to install.

>>56456048
3TB HDDs have terrible failure rates, up to 25%
If you're not going to hassle with CPU OC (not early as easy as GPU OC) just get a locked CPU, H110 mobo, and use the stock cooler.

Also get 3000mhz RAM as long as the mobo supports it

>>56455982
4GB

>>56455936
AMD doesn't really have any good CPUs out right now

>>56455713
The 4GB VRAM is nothing to worry about at 1080p.

>>56456057

From where

>>56456373
Only two they had anon

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>>56455841
bump

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Here's what I have
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Q4rhkT
I have 895 burgerbucks and I'm buying my parts on Monday. Is there any last minute upgrades I should tag on and will I have to worry about tax?

>>56456620

Ah cool, how much where they?

>>56455650
This is 2016, 100% of ATX cases are the size on the right, all with absurd amounts of sata ports and PCIe slots
MicroATX is the sweet spot for consumer plebs like us
In fact, for me it was difficult to find an mATX case that was smaller than a mid tower

>>56456938
140 each

>>56456948

Shit son, that's good! What size? I want another 32" 4k to stack above the one I've got so I look like a leet haxxor

>>56456883
Don't buy an aftermarket cooler if you are buying a locked cpu, the cpu already comes with a cooler. The H170 motherboard doesnt support 2400 MHz ram.

>>56455632
>>56456946
microatx and atx are like 2 inches different from each other, they're both "full size" motherboards
You wouldn't call Eatx normal and ATX mini would you?

>>56455650
>>56455229
>There is no reason not to have 6 optical drives

>>56456995
I thought about upgrading to a 6600k, but it looks like after tax, and now knowing my gpu is out of stock everywhere except for Amazon for like 40 dollars more, I definitely wont have enough for it,

>>56457028

My god, I thought the trend of having >9000 5.25" spaces in a tower was never going to end.

>>56456991
27", i had the same one already from last year, should fit my setup perfectly

>>56456883
If you've got a aftermarket HSF then you probably want to overclock.
There are 2 problems that arise from this.

Firstly you're using a MicroATX mobo. Is this shit a meme lately? It's small/cramped and meant for PC cases smaller than the one you're buying. trying to put a bigass HSF on that small board will suck, especially when it's time to install RAM.
Plus i'm not sure that MOBO can overclock a locked intel CPU. But the ASRock 170 Pro4s can.

I'm an AMD fanboy so I'm not too knowledgeable on intel, Here's a guide:
http://overclocking.guide/gigabyte-z170-non-k-overclocking-guide/
Consider an SSD

>>56457306
>sub 30" 4K monitors
So that's why they were so cheap. They were garbage!

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>>56457404
Anything larger than 27" is for TV's

>>56457421
Enjoy your eye-straining pixel sizes, pham
>b-b-but smaller pixels is better
Yes, but it's pointless for larger resolutions when the text on your 1920x1080 windowed screens are too small to read.