/pcbg/- PC Building General

Reposting because got no answer

sup /g/
My motherboard died on my old computer
Looking for a middle of the road build, and got this from Logical Increments

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 BOM ATX AM3+ Motherboard
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case
It all comes out to around $494.24 on newegg. How's it look?

I should be able to reuse my Corsair HX650w series as the power supply for this build right? PCparts builder says that this build should come to around 384w and 650w should be plenty.
Also, I forgot to get a wireless adapter on my previous build so I had to use a UBS wifi adapter. It seems to work pretty fine. Should I just stick with that or should I look into getting a more complex wifi adapter?

Is HIS a good brand?

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Hey nigs, need a hand. I'm taking apart my brothers old PC to try and figure out what I can use for my new one. Most of the parts arrive on Tuesday.

I got the GPU out no problem, but the PSU, HDD and CD Drive are being pains in the ass. They each have a single screw that's fucking me over. It's as tight as a nuns arse.

I just sprayed them with WD40 and waited ten minutes, but not much is budging. Help?

>>56428898
>FX-6300
There is no need to go for one of these CPUs any longer. An i3-6100 is slightly worse at multi-threaded performance and significantly better at single-threaded performance. An H110 motherboard can be had for less than the price of a 970X AM3+ motherboard these days, as well.

>>56428898
>AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor
get a good fan

>>56428987
more or less noname shit but go for it if it's at least 33% cheaper I guess

>>56429002
>I just sprayed them with a conductive lubricant and I now expect my electrical components to work afterwards
Good job

>>56429033
Well what else can a nigga do?

>>56429041
Not spray conductive fluids near electrical components?

>>56428898
What are your current specs? The rest of your hardware might not be toast.

>>56429041
Use a non-conductive lubricant?

>>56429049
Thanks for the advice. Any other tips then?

>>56429065
Twist harder, nigga.

>>56429009
Does this sound better?

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus H110I-PLUS D3/CSM Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($76.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($34.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $467.32

>>56429055
Well to be honest, my computer is 5 years old at this point, so I've been looking to upgrade anyway.

>>56429065
Heat the metal around the screw and using more force to twist?

>>56429080
I AM ONE WEAK AS FUCK NIGGA

>>56429092
How to heat?

>>56429088
Normally I'd say that you lose a lot and pay more for an ITX board, but H81/H110 seems made to be for the form factor.
However, why are you using a DDR3L board with a DDR3 RAM? Play it safe and choose the DDR4 variant of the same board and a DDR4-2133 RAM for the same price.

Yo, someone rate my build.

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Socket 1151 6MB L3 Cache
Motherboard: A1 x Asus Z170-A Socket 1151 VGA DVI-D HDMI
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200 2400MHz DIMM C16 Memory Kit
Video Card: GTX 660Ti
Case: Fractal R5 Design etc.
SSD: Kingston V300 SSDNow 120GB SATA 3.0 2.5inch SSD Upgrade Kit with Adapter

>>56429119
Take a heat gun or hair drier and start blowing air in a circular motion around the stuck screw. That way the metal heats up the steel chassis.

>>56429144
That's really handy and neat to know. Thank you, Anon.

>>56429143
>CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Socket 1151 6MB L3 Cache
>Motherboard: A1 x Asus Z170-A Socket 1151 VGA DVI-D HDMI
>Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 PC4-19200 2400MHz DIMM C16 Memory Kit
>Video Card: GTX 660Ti
>Case: Fractal R5 Design etc.
>SSD: Kingston V300 SSDNow 120GB SATA 3.0 2.5inch SSD Upgrade Kit with Adapter
6/10. get a new GPU

>>56428421
is there a recent GPU that's midway between a 480/1060 and a 1070?

>>56429169
GPU is from my old build. Getting a new one on black Friday.

Any other shit? The rest of the stuff I just bought.

>>56429143
Whats your budget nig
and put on pcpartpicker.com

>>56429088
>ITX board
>ATX case
It'll fit, but why?

>>56429119
Did you strip the screws? Are the screws hex and phillips or just phillips?

>>56429143
Do you have a CPU heatsink? I assume you're going to upgrade the GPU once prices get closer to MSRP?

>>56429158
I still think you're a fucking drooling retard for spraying WD40 inside a computer, but whatever makes you happy, you retard

>>56429124
Cause I cannot into computers

CPU: Intel Core i3-6100 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($110.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($38.88 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($45.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($147.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($50.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply
Total: $464.71

Also, it says under compatibility
MSI H110M Gaming Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.

The Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case supports video cards up to 390mm long, but video cards over 270mm may block drive bays. Since the Asus Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card is 271mm long, some drive bays may not be usable.

Should I be that concerned?
>>56429197
>but why?
Logical Increments

>>56429197
>Do you have a CPU heatsink? I assume you're going to upgrade the GPU once prices get closer to MSRP?
Oh yeah, I bought just a cheap one from Amazon.

Cooler Master RR-212X-17PK-R1 Hyper 212X "CPU Air Cooler, 4 Continuous Direct Contact Heatpipes"

and some paste.

>>56429177
R9 390x

>>56429186
everything else seems pretty good

SSD is the only thing that I'd consider subpar, but it'll be fine and you can always get a 2nd one later on (vs. a CPU, which is harder to replace)

>>56429197
Phillips.

>>56429201
I do not deny that I am clueless.

>>56429226
Pricewise that's wrong

My rig won't boot, what are the odds I fucked it up with static electricity? Didn't ground myself

>>56429269
pretty low, i've built a computer wearing wool socks on shag rug carpet before.

>>56429259
not rly
http://www.ebay.com/itm/XFX-AMD-R9-390x-Graphics-Card-I-hand-For-Ship-Out-/262595087135?hash=item3d23e30b1f:g:8fsAAOSwgZ1Xv84q

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qHy2m8

Blank prices are things i already have.
I don't want to go above £315 (7950 cost me £85)

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/qHy2m8

CPU: Intel Core i3-4170 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor (£98.28 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: CRYORIG M9i 48.4 CFM CPU Cooler (£15.48 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus H81I-PLUS Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard (£54.98 @ Novatech)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (£56.52 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Patriot Blaze 60GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£31.98 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card
Case: Thermaltake Core V1 Mini ITX Tower Case (£36.46 @ More Computers)
Power Supply: OCZ ZS 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
Wireless Network Adapter: Edimax EW-7811Un USB 2.0 802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi Adapter (£6.69 @ Ebuyer)
Total: £300.39

Any advice?

>>56429301
...used


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>>56429280
Gonna take out the mini speaker thing from an old desktop so I can get some beeps to see what's wrong

>>56429319
There's no point in not going with skylake.

>>56429374
What's so good about Skylake? Not him, but I jsut bought a Skylake.

>>56429397
DDR4 and usually slightly cheaper.

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What should I be looking for in a wireless adapter card?

>>56429374
>>56429374
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/NkqC6X

How's this?

>>56429506
idk

n/ac compatibility. good reviews. good benchmarks.

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hey /g/ looking to upgrade my GPU, any suggestions?

>>56429566
Titan X Pascal

>>56429537
See if you can get a board with a mini pcie wifi card. Much more reliable than USB.

>>56429143
The Sandisk SSD at that size is like $10 more and has great review over the "bait and switch" Kingston

>>56429566
1070

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Is this good now?

The PNY is because RX 480 and 1060s are the same price here. And this is the cheapest two fan 1060. Please tell me if I'm thinking wrong.

>>56429566
1060 or 480, whichever you prefer. I'm assuming you don't use both monitors for gaming. Since you seem to like keeping parts as long as possible, go for the 480. This is assuming AMD keeps up their current trend of improved performance with driver updates.

>>56429816
Can you afford to bump it up to the 6500?

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How's this look for a middle of the road PC?
Also, if I were to take the storage from my previous computer and hook it up with my new one, would it have all my files still in it?

>>56429928
Ya but people where saying a 6400 wouldn't bottleneck a 1060.

Is that right?

>>56429965
looks like a ghetto case. might want to double czech.

unless there's some feature you need you can get a 10-20$ cheaper board.

PSU is a little overkill. 500W would be fine.

Sure you don't want AC wireless?

Z170 fully decked out or just non-overclock for the price savings?
I'm 100% sure I don't need to overclock, but it would be nice in a few years

>>56429990
>looks like a ghetto case. might want to double czech.
I'm not sure what you mean
>unless there's some feature you need you can get a 10-20$ cheaper board.
Like what?
>PSU is a little overkill. 500W would be fine.
It's a recycled part from my previous tower, which I built when I was in high school
>Sure you don't want AC wireless?
That might be a good idea

>>56430054
too lazy to link but there are boards 10-20$ cheaper that would work with everything you have there (assuming you haven't picked that board for some additional feature not listed)

the case looks bad. check reviews.

>>56430072
in particular, why ATX? Do you need the extra space?

The mATX boards and cases are a little cheaper, plus your case will be less bulky

>>56430011

No point paying the Z170 overclock tax if you're not going to use it. However, buy an unlocked CPU for better stock speeds and way better resale value down the line, but only if you already have a cooler or you'll spend the profit on one.

Any feedback? Gonna be used for gaming(Titanfall 2)
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/37HPXH

>>56429177
Fury

>>56429965
I would invest in a SSD. So much time is saved when your OS and programs load instantly.

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So instead of paying 200$ for Win 10 and dvd drive, does anyone have a torrent for win 7 or 10 that works so I can use a thumb drive instead. Want to put that money into a better GPU.

>>56429973
There's a decent performance bump. Bottlenecking is a meme.

>>56430174
Looks fine. Not sure about the keyboard and mouse, but I don't have any better suggestions.

Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU

Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor
$195.99 $195.99 SuperBiiz Buy
CPU Cooler

Deepcool GAMMAXX 300 55.5 CFM CPU Cooler
$18.99 $18.99 SuperBiiz Buy
Motherboard

Gigabyte GA-B85M-DS3H-A Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
$62.99 -$10.00 $1.99 $54.98 Newegg Buy
$10.00 mail-in rebate
Memory

G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
$66.88 $66.88 OutletPC Buy
Video Card

MSI Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card
$304.15 -$20.00 $284.15 OutletPC Buy
$20.00 mail-in rebate
Case

Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case
$49.99 -$10.00 $2.99 $42.98 Newegg Buy
$10.00 mail-in rebate
Power Supply

Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
$49.89 FREE $49.89 Newegg Buy

is this going to work well?

>>56430244
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/technology-science/microsoft/67-microsoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool
Daz loader
Use wsusoffline to install updates or the updater will take forever and still not work.

>>56430273
Doesn't an i5 have a faster clock speed?

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How is this build for a gaming-streaming/encoding PC pair?
The primary gaming machine
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tPL8r7
which also sends video to this streaming/encoding PC
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/L7BXyf

>>56430244
>>56430296
another anon just confirming it's safe.
if dazloader was unsafe they would have stolen my money ages ago.

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>>56430072
>>56430082
Alright how's this look?
>>56430235
I might consider it

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>>56430326

>>56430374
What? I want to absolute best of the best and I'm not concerned at all about spending more than $20k if I have to. I've got nothing else to spend it on after taxes, rent, grocery, and the occasional trip to the bar.

What's the best SSD with around 500gb of storage?

>>56430357
at least get an i5. i3 will limit your 380

>>56430444
Is it really necessary? I was kinda hoping I could keep this under $500
Not that it's that big of a problem, but still

>>56430420

The best is probably more than you need to pay for. At 500GB you're pretty safe with any budget-tier SSD since lifetime relates to size.

e.g. for the price of an M.2 Intel/Samsung "Pro" SSD you could buy 2 SATA Crucial SSDs and RAID them for piece of mind if you think one will just stop working one day.

Should I jump on it?
https://www.techbargains.com/deal/433225/intel-core-i7-6700k

>i7 6700k
>$300
>eBay
>new with 3yr warranty
Or wait until black friday, I'm kind of anxious to hop on a deal, since most of my components just died recently.

>>56430401
So just spend it all on one computer with a dual CPU board. Using a separate computer to record and steam the video seems terribly inefficient.

>>56430549
>Using a separate computer to record and steam the video seems terribly inefficient
Why though? I've heard Shadowplay and OBS has trouble capturing 4K streams even with an i7-5960X.

>>56430420
Samsung makes the best SSDs, but that comes at a premium.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA29P2TN6083

ADATA is okay at a much lower price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211985

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>>56430511
But M2 is so dank

>>56430573
If a bottleneck supposedly appears in a system with double the CPU power of another but still a single GPU, then it sounds like it would be a bottleneck on GPU bandwidth caused by trying to download 60 4K frames per second. Couldn't you just have the GPU feed back to a capture card on the same system?

>>56430420
And it's on sale
https://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA0FU4HP6553

>>56430658
I thought that the CPU was actually hitting a wall because both encoding 4K video on the fly and playing games on it at the same time pushed even eight core Intels to their limits and causes performance dips on both encoding speed and FPS.

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Anon back from earlier, made some changes.

Built in wifi on motherboard, different case, M2 SSD, different cooler, DDR4 RAM.

Same shit applies, items without prices are already owned, already spent £85 on the 7950, looking to keep it below £315 for other parts, looking to play recent games on medium-high and older ones on very-high to ultra.

Can this be improved in any other way now?

>>56430712
So why not use two CPUs? I assume one can encode 4k in real-time?

>>56430762
32gb is too small for your boot drive.

>>56430763
I can't overclock CPUs on dual socket motherboard.

My ssd pooped itself apparently. I've been having awful issues with corrupt system files, freezing, bsod, even after reinstalling windows numerous times. I finally decided to install the OS on my 1tb hdd, and I'm not having any issues so far. The speed is noticeably slower though and would like to eventually install my OS on another ssd. What's a good ssd for under 100$?

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>>56430777
checked

Building for the first time

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/bmc9r7

Anything stupid I missed? Any tips?

>>56429002
Good bait dude. Seriously though next time, put some WD-40 on a damn Q-tip and just try working a little bit into the screwhole. Damn

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147374

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147467&ignorebbr=1

Higher capacity or higher speeds?

>>56430833
What SSD did you have?

>>56430906
M2 is the dankest of memes
the Intel 600p m2s are cheaper tho

>>56429816
Get the Fury Nitro if it's still $300, it kicks both their asses even though it runs hot.
I got sick of holding my breath for a fucking worse but newer card for $280 (the 480)

It's the difference between driving a nice powerful mid-tier 6-cylinder car and then driving a gay little prius.

Fucking kicks DOOM and Farcry Primals asses in 1440p. Paid more for the monitor but don't regret anything.

>>56430933
>512GB 600p is $200 cheaper than the 950 pro
No shit, thanks m8.

>>56430980
Wait nevermind, was looking at the murrican newegg site. Still cheaper by about $100 on the milkbagland site.

>>56430928
OCZ ARC-100

>>56430525
I jumped on my 6600k when it was on sale for $220, the 6700k can be found on sale for $315 sometimes so yeah it's a good deal.

Might be cheaper on black friday but hard to find.

>mfw I paid $350 for the Fury Nitro that I tout so much, then saw it for $300 a week later

>>56431024
EVO 850 256

>>56431123
thanks lad. Is the difference between a normal 2.5" ssd and an m.2 ssd that noticeable? Wondering if I should spend the extra money.

>>56431150
It's not that noticeable because sata SSDs are already fast, but it is significant (like up to 2-5 times faster), and one less cable in your case adds to your sex appeal

>>56431150
I know m.2 is suppose to be a lot faster, but I never looked into it.

>>56431150
Those new M2 will also be running off of PCIe lanes not sata, so NVME M2 SSDs can theoretically get to above 30GB/s

> http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LBC78K
Help, the pricetag it hurts. Suggestions to get something around $1000 that would be capable of
>virtualization
>fallout 4
>video editing

>>56431242
Drop the motherboard $100 down
Drop the ram to 3000mhz at most
Gat a cheaper hard drive
If you're using that monitor, a 1060 might actually be fine for you

>>56431204
Which new m2 are you talking about? I don't have any m.2 slots, so I would need a PCIe adapter. Are you saying I won't need an adapter with the new M2's?

>>56431310
>>56431242
A smaller power supply too, at least 650w bronze but don't skimp out if the gold price is ok

>>56431314
An m2 slot can run off of Sata or PCIe data lanes.
Not sure about PCIe-mounted m2 but I'm sure it runs only off the faster PCIe lanes

>>56431242
Do you even plan to overclock? You can save quite a lot of money if you don't
>cheaper chipset mobo
>2133mhz ram
>Non-K CPU
>Don't need extra cooler

>>56430849
Forgot to add, it's mostly for gaming, I picked the parts based on what I have access to in my country. Just want to know if there's any obvious problems or if I made stupid mistakes.

Does a 150€ Motherboard really worth it?
I'm buying a i7 - 6700K to overclock it.

I'm buying it also because of the audio codec - Realtek® ALC1150

School me on PSUs, I'm using an i5 6600k and a 1070
Should I just filter by 500-700w 80+ gold and pick the cheapest?

Gigabyte motherboards are the best, they have gaming aesthetics

>>56431661
They are good and your opinion is valid.
Thanks for posting

>>56431657
If you have no intention to SLI:

430w/450w should hold but i dont recommend
500w its okay
600w to be 100% safe

For brand the EVGA 80+ ones are the cheapest

>>56431657

520 or 620 watt seasonic m12 modular bronze is good and cheap

>>56431661
Makes me wanna throw up seeing those orange shits Gigabyte puts on GTX cards

fucking animals

>>56431487
Looks fine to me

>Family member from abroad comes and gifts a gtx750ti
>no desktop
>can't sell it because its rude to do so
What the cheapest pc I can buy to shove that card in? I am thinking about spending 200 bucks but not sure if that's enough, would be nice if it can get cheaper though. Thanks in advance.
Already had a keyboard and mouse, i can scout for some cheap screen on my own btw.

>>56431742
I'm running a Fury Nitro. Why the fuck did I buy an 850W Gold lol

>>56432028
Jesus
A 600w would be perfect depending on your CPU

>>56432064
I know. it was a $70 TheRMAltake after MIR and after a month and a half of the RMA process what it arrived DOA.

I guess I figured it would run better around 50% load lol and the price was right.

>>56432111
kek

>>56431310
>>56431742
Thanks for the recommendations. Other things i was thinking of
> existing monitor
> 1060 instead of 1070 (or $250 eqvalent)
> Use existing 840 SSD (256gb)
> Downgrade CPU to i5
> DDR4 ->DDR3 and change boards or...
>DDR4 32gb -> 16gb and decreased Mhz (DDR4 3600 -> ~3000)
> find out minimum power requirements for 1060 or 1070 and downgrade PSU

Also is this worth biting on, will it hit around this price again? Or should i just start looking at i5 prices?
https://www.techbargains.com/deal/433225/intel-core-i7-6700k

>>56431395
I would like to, but i dont have a whole lot of experience with it. Though i mean the CPU cooler is around 20-30, im not saving a bunch by not getting it, and thought that thermal take was a good choice for it.
how much should i drop the mobo? $50? theres another asus board around that price, but i dont want to skimp on the board too much 200 sounded ok, but i sqeeze some more on it. what really hurts is the DDR4 memory prices. is 2133 the best for decent prices without taking too much a hit on performance?

Don't buy a computer.

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>>56432111
>theRMA take
I chuckled

>>56432272
2133mhz is stock ddr4 speeds, higher than that and you'd need an overclocking mobo, which is fine, a Z170 motherboard and I5 6600k with 3000mhz ram is a good overclockable setup, but a H170 board with a i5/i7 6600/6700 and 2133mhz ddr4 would be awesome too and cheaper

>>56432272
Im currently waiting on a i7 6700 non-k that im paying $310 where I live. I would give my left nut to get a sub $300 i7 6700k. Get this shit yo

I would never downgrade to the 1060 also, man.

Only change the board to ddr3 if you really, really, really need money to get the rest. But anyway, get a $100 Gigabyte Z170 DDR4, its the same shit if youre not going to SLI.

Put 16gb ddr4 at 3000mhz, its more than ok to play anything on 4k. Dont use G.Skill and get the Corsair LPX, its cheaper.

As I said 600w is more than enough to either 1060 or 1070.

can someone help me figure out the difference between
Asus H110M-A/M.2 Micro ATX
and
Asus H110M-E/M.2 Micro ATX

>>56432394
This. Z170, 6600k/6700k, >2133mhz ddr4, and a 1070
It'll be hard to squeeze that into $1000 but it's possible

>>56432418
>H110M-A
1 x PS/2 keyboard (purple)
1 x PS/2 mouse (green)
1 x DVI-D
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x LAN (RJ45) port(s)
2 x USB 3.0 (blue)
4 x USB 2.0
3 x Audio jack(s)

Integrated Graphics Processor- Intel® HD Graphics support
Multi-VGA output support : HDMI/DVI-D/RGB ports
- Supports HDMI with max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
- Supports DVI-D with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
- Supports RGB with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Maximum shared memory of 1024 MB
Supports up to 2 displays simultaneously

>H110M-E
1 x PS/2 keyboard (purple)
1 x PS/2 mouse (green)
1 x D-Sub
1 x HDMI
1 x LAN (RJ45) port(s)
2 x USB 3.0 (blue)
4 x USB 2.0
3 x Audio jack(s)

Integrated Graphics Processor- Intel® HD Graphics support
Multi-VGA output support : HDMI/RGB ports
- Supports HDMI with max. resolution 4096 x 2160 @ 24 Hz / 2560 x 1600 @ 60 Hz
- Supports RGB with max. resolution 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Maximum shared memory of 1024 MB
Supports up to 2 displays simultaneously

Same shit, man

>>56432489
One has DVI-D?

I'm paranoid there's something more

Need a windows 7 installation disc/flash drive for my new pc but I can't find an old copy anywhere, and I don't have the means to pirate a copy since my only computer is the new pc in question.

Any ideas? I would love to avoid paying Micro$oft for 10 year old software

>>56432523
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H110M-A/
https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/H110M-E/
Click on "Add to comparison list" on both pages.

Both have PCIe 3.0 on x16, so thats really what matters to see if a H110M is good or bad. The bad ones are 2.0.

>DVI-D
If your going to get a video card a DVI port on the mobo really doesnt matter.

Get the cheaper one. (I would recommend a B150 or a H170 if you can, for more HD slots, RAM slots, etc., but if you can you wont lose anything really vital either way)

>>56432600
It's not letting me add both to compare. I've tried already ;-;

For my needs a DVI is irrelevant, but for some reason the cheaper one includes it.

I also don't think I need the extra slots. I'll be using a PCIe AC wireless card, a 480 gfx, and max 3 HDDs/SDDs. I think this mobo will suffice.

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>>56432546
https://kickass.unblocked.live/windows-7-ultimate-with-sp1-x64-genuine-iso-untouched-windows7-tt7221867.html
Just put mine on an usb half an hour ago

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>>56432640
here it is

be harsh

>>56432640
Click the first link, click add to compare, change the "A" in the url to an "E", click add to compare, done

If thats it, pull the trigger

>>56432650
Did you not read the part where I don't have a computer to download this on? I need either an actual disc or a pre-loaded bootable USB drive. If I could pirate it myself I already would've

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>>56432678
No I won't be harsh
Is good

>>56432678
You could save some money going for the 6500/6400, theyre pretty similar.

I would get the XFX GTR 480 or the Nitro+ OC for better clock performance. Asus Strix may be good also but i dont know. Im not really familiar with the Gigabyte one.

RAM is nice.

Info on the 480s:
https://i.gyazo.com/70bc42405e71ee9732f8530a549bbf11.png

Not familiar with the case but the price is nice.

Western Digital HDD may be cheaper but im not sure. If youre on budget you could save getting a 120 SSD instead.

600w its pretty good for the config.

Will a GTX 960 max Overwatch?

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>>56432722
just changed to 2TB for another $10~

call me a slut

>>56432689
Take your sisters computer faggot

>>56432755
>this is how easy it is for an american to buy shit

fucking 480 for 240 god I fucking hate canada

>>56432750
I'll probably end up hunting for a deal on a 480 l8r

>>56432762
I don't have a sister gaylord

>>56432751
Never played it, but I'd assume so.

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>>56432771
$500 here

Just fuck my rig up

>>56432755
btw do I need a Z170 to OC my GPU?

>>56432848
Nope just CPU and ram

>>56432848
You need 6600k CPU + a aftermarket cooler (like the CM x212) + a Z170 mobo

Only cpus ending in "k" can be overclocked.

You can kinda "brute force" overclock this one with only a Z170 on paper, but you will end up fucking up and disabling some shit unless you get a proper 6600K/6700K cpu for overclocking.

You dont really NEED it, the standard 6600 is pretty good enough with a 480.

>>56432689
Find a way, borrow someone's laptop or something, or even use your phone.

>>56432678
Good but get faster memory if your mobo supports it.

>>56432272
>is 2133 the best for decent prices without taking too much a hit on performance
3000mhz

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What are the differences between motherboards? Like what makes them different? These ones in the pic all fit a i3 and a 950, so for a literal idiot pleb like me does it even matter?

>>56432966
Features (SLI support, DDR4 RAM support, more HD ports, more RAM slots, cpu overclock). Mobos have no effect on performance.

If youre not going to SLI/crossfire, get a Z170 by $90-$110. If youre not going overclock get a cheap B150/H110/H170. Always get a DDR4 board if youre going with a Skylake CPU, unless youre really on budget.

Thats pretty much it

>>56432988
here >>56433019

would getting a 6600k + Z170 to mildly OC be worthwhile with a RX 480?

Or stick to 6600 with stock HSF no OC, no Z170, etc

>>56433036
Do a pcpartpicker build and see if it is on your budget. Otherwise, the 6600/6500 arent going to let you down yet either.

>>56433019
>>56433030
Thanks heaps!

>>56433078
It ends up being about $90 more than my 6600 build.

Is it worth it for the extra 15%~ in CPU performance?

Are mild Skylake OCs safe?

>>56433096
If your going to get B150/H110/H170M always check the details if your mobo supports PCI 3.0/2.0 x16 instead of only 2.0. Nowadays pratically every board supports it, but its better to be sure (specially on H110 boards).

H110 tend to have only 2 RAM slots also. B150 and H170 supports 4.

>>56433122
Im not specialist into overclocks, but if you can I would get it. You see 6 year old i5 2500k around running GTX1070 gpus nicely, probably by extending its lifespan through overclocking.

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I bought a 960 a few months ago for $220 then the new pascal cards came out.. Can be had on ebay used for $120. For some reason newegg is selling the same evga card for $287. Makes absolutely no sense because you can get a 8GB 1060 for that price. From what I was told the performance jump is huge.

>>56433207
>Can be had on ebay used for $120

Maybe the 2GB version. The 4GB version usually goes for $170 or more.

It should be
/pcag/ - PC Assembly General

>>56433225
>8GB 1060

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How well does the Kraken G10 work? My 290X idles at 60C and goes to 94C on load.

>>56433251
>>/int6kg/ - Intel 6600k general

>>56433271
kek

>>56429088
ITX mobo in ATX case. Are you retarded?

>>56433287
Who cares man, the purpose of a case is to be good looking for battlestation threads.

>>56433287
>but mom you don't understand

>>56433266

http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Using-NZXT-Kraken-G10-Watercool-Radeon-R9-290/Performance-Results

>>56433131
Thanks heaps again! :D

Choosing a poorfag case between:
Thermaltake Versa H35
Thermaltake V3 or V4
Sentey GS-6008 Stealth Plus

would be cool if it has space behind the mobo

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Is the top build overkill for an overwatch machine?

Pun intended.

>>56433452
what resolution/refresh rate will you be playing at?

>>56433452
Depends on resolution and refresh rate.

>>56433452
I dont know about overwatch but its pretty good for modern games on 1080p 60fps. On overwatch you can easily disable some shit for +100fps if thats your thing.

Never seen this brand of 1060 before tho

>>56433470
>>56433486
>>56433488
1080 60hz possible upgrade to 1080 144hz

What brand makes the best cheap motherboards? I'm choosing between Asus H110M-A and Gigabyte GA-H110M-A, pretty much the same price and specs

>>56433569
I dont know why, but I always go Gigabyte. I think Asus boxes are ugly af

Look which one has the cheaper ddr4 board and get it

>>56429088
>, 5 year old system
>want to upgrade to 4 year old cpu architecture.

I'm all for amd, and trying to beat the jew. But unless you want to so rendering on the cheap (8300+) there really isn't any point in buying amd cpus until zen comes out. Not to mention that the 6300 would have bottlenecked the fuck out of your gpu. Check user bench between that i3 and something like an i5 6400, though. Probably worth the extra bit of money.

Also, if you're going itx, look into a smaller case. Maybe something like the raijin tek cases. Don't go any larger than microatx, to be honest.

>>56432394
>>56432272
Alright, so here's what i have now after...
>PSU downgrade (850->650)
>- $50 on Mobo
>Memory 3500 -> 3000 (Saved alot)
>same 1070
>downgrade on monitor, loss on resolution, but kept Displayport/IPS

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kkgVwV

Out of curiosity if i ever did SLI, would i have enough power for another 1070? Should i even bother fitting it into future plans?Anything else i could be missing? Is it worth the wait for 2 months for BlackFriday? Always seems around then even if you get good prices you are always buying on whats a deal and instock rather than what you planned for.

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Overwatch guy here. I guess this is the midpoint between the two I posted about.

Do you think having the 6100 is going to be fine?

>>56433708
kill yourself

>>56433647
Looks really good, nigger
Is that the cheapest 1070 you found? If EVGA FTW edition or MSI are cheaper, get them.

>would i have enough power for another 1070
Probably. Im not sure tho, search about it before you buy, but yeah, I believe so.

Do it, faggot, buy that shit and report when you get it

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>>56433721
aw man I even googled it about people said maybe a 10% difference and it would be fine.

what I do wrong?

This thread has been brought to you by Intel and Nvidia.

Looking for some drive recommendations for my new build:

1. 256GB+ performance SSD for OS
Samsung EVO line maybe? I have a m2 slot as well.

2. 480GB+ cheap SSD for Applications/Games
Looking for some cheaper brand, Adata, Mushkin, Kingston, etc.

3. 2TB+ HDD for etc. storage, media, temp folders
Already have a few of these lying around, Seagate and WD brand

>>56433708
>6100
Im not familiar with it but what about the i5 6400?

>>56429965
Get the Deepcool Tesseract for the case. It's around the same price and i recommended it for 2 of my friends and they both love it. Great sturdy finish.

>>56433754
>256GB+ performance SSD for OS
What kind of fucking OS takes 250gb of space
Put your OS and games inside the same SSD. 250gb is okay. Dont know about the brands tho

Put the shitty pre-2011 shovelware games on the HDD. Get a WD.

>>56433756
Okay I'll get the i5. Can I put the 6400 in the H110 though?

I was kinda excited about the smaller case...

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Will this play FF15 and Civ 6?

B-But it's so cheap! T.T

>>56433647
Well it says the 1070 is 150w max, maybe overclocked it's closer to 180, and considering SLI doesn't use double the GPU power id say you'd be fine.
If you already have a monitor (not sure what it is), why get a normal 1080p 60hz? Your 1070 could handle 1440p, at high fps too.
The only thing I'd wait for Black Friday on is monitors and hard drives. Seems like the only sales that's consistently worth a damn. And like you said, if you're set on what you want, that'll never be what's on sale

>>56433802
Yes

Can I play 1080p 144hz? About to pull the trigger

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpPZwV

>>56433838
wtf am I looking at lol

windows 32 wtf

>>56433754
Get the Intel 600p 128GB M2 drive for $75 and some rando 2.5" SSD for everything else

How do I know how much power I need in my psu?

>>56433925
PCpartpicker
add 100w-150w if you wanna be sure

>>56433647
There's a review showing an entire single 1070 desktop using 220w total, and that same setup using 1070 SLI at 340w

What is the difference between a core and a thread? What does a thread even do?

I'm thinking about buying a R9 380. I see some models with 2 6-pin connectors and others with a single 8-pin connector. What is the difference?

>>56433807
rx 460, pentium
My guess is a solid 45fps in 720p or 30 fps in 1080p. With some fps lows from the shitty cpu. At least get an i3.
If that's a prebuilt system don't buy it.

>>56434048
A thread acts like a core for certain programs that can utilize it

>>56434063
But I thought fps is determined mostly by the graphics card. This youtube video compared an i3 6100 and a g4400 and got the same fps. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrpHpU-eovY
What if I stuck with the g4400 and got a gtx 960?

>>56434123
That would be a lot better
A dual core pentium is questionable but nearly all CPUs have kicked ass for plebeian shit like gaming for years
Your video card would make a better improvement, but even a 960 is a big step down from a 970

anybody have 2 full towers plugged into 1 outlet?

power calculators put both at about 500 watts each under worst case full utilization. i also have 4 monitors on the same outlet. 1st (current) PC will be torrenting/workstation. 2nd PC will be gayming rig. i'm "retiring" the first PC because it's about 5 years old now; the benchmarks i'm seeing put skylake and it's DDR4 at a significant advantage.

it will be highly unlikely that both PCs will be running at 100%. i will have one on sleep mode while i work/game on the other. i might game and torrent on both but it's such a low level of power draw that i think it should be fine. google tells me house circuits should be OK for about 1800 watts.

i don't do any sort of heavy encoding work or whatever. mainly spreadsheet stuff.

>>56434131
Does the word "pentium" mean anything specific?

>>56434170
I mean, is it just a name? Or does it mean a specific type of architecture?

>>56434154
It'll be alright.
If not it you'll just trip the breaker.

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Just want to say thanks everyone for the help, thus far. Right now after replacing a bunch of parts Im running on a 7300 LE to get by, took about a day to get the drivers in proper place.Someone pitched a tent of blankets over my desktop about 2 weeks ago, and things just kind of ... died.Feel alot more solid about choices, and more informed. The i7 deal wasn't too rare, and resurfaced on amazon, though... tax more than likely. Going to crash now, probally should have slept about 4 hours ago, but its been fun.

>>56433734
I haven't done extensive digging, just whats listed on Partpicker. the EVGA 1070 that i viewed had one one egg review (not really a good one, he just whined about the back part of the shroud not designed in,but I didnt inspire confidence). The Asus Turbo had about ~10+ Reviews, evga could have been fine for all i know, but tried and tested. The price difference wasn't much.
>>56433817
The existing monitors are in the description. Dell 2407 (IPS one died on me today, the regular nonDP version is what i have now).

>>56433968
This is going to sound like a stupid question, but Im not planning to power no arduino board here , and that all sounds within reason. Where exactly do people ever justify 1000W+ then?

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Here's my cheapstake build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/zdfqm8
graphic card was gifted so that's out of the way, everything else is used stuff I scouted from local shops so the actual price should be about 1/3 of that.

>>56428421
What's wrong with the i7 extreme whatever? About to drop $1500 on the flagship

>>56434131
So should I bump up to an i3 6100 to go with a 970? My wallet will be suffering, but at least the pc will last plenty of years.

>>56434473
Not worth the price for MOAR CORES (Since it's another intel step with minor gains). Just get the 6600/6700k instead.

Hm, maybe I should have done more digging before posting a new thread.
Regardless, if anyone could help me out with this, I'd be very grateful.


Building my first desktop from scratch. Going for very low cost as it's only really needed for web-browsing, multimedia and some very light gaming.

Some of the parts I've settled on are off brand so they don't show up on pcpartpicker and such.
Would like to make sure they'll all fit together.

Pls, no bully.


Silence 500W Black Edition ATX PC Power Supply PSU With 12CM Silent Fan And SATA / 24 PIN / 4 PIN / MOLEX 21 x 16.5 x 9.6 cm

CiT Barricade USB3 Gaming Case with a 80mm fan on the rear to provide better cooling performance. Supports ATX power supply and Micro-ATX Motherboard. 39.4 x 37.6 x 21 cm

Gigabyte GA-AM1M-S2H Motherboard (RAM, S-ATA 600, Micro ATX, PCI Express 2.0 x16, USB 3.0, HDMI, VGA, GIGABYTE Ultra Durable Technology, Socket AM1)

AMD APU Athlon 5350 Quad Core Processor (Socket AM1, 2.05GHz, 2MB, 25W, AMD Radeon 3, AD5350JAHMBOX

Sonnics 250GB 2.5 SATA 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM 8MB Cache Internal hard drive (250GB)
10 x 7 x 0.7 cm

Patriot 4GB DDR3 (1x 4GB) Single Channel Signature Memory Kit, 1600MHz, 11.0, 1.5, PSD34G160081


If there's any relevant information I haven't included, please ask. I'll do my best to be prompt.

Help is much appreciated.

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>>56430244
download a torrent for a win 8.1 already registered, then what you do is you go to google and search "win 10 for retarded people" and there's this microsoft program where if you use their assistive technologies on windows, you can STILL get a free win 10 upgrade.

Now because your torrented 8.1 is registered win 10 will be registered too. That's the way I do it.

>>56433314
Wasted space

>>56434297
no one in the entire world needs more than a 700w power supply

they justify buying more by saying "lel poorfags"

>>56434154
watts divided by voltage=amps

A standard outlet is 15 amps.

budget facebook, shitposting, youtube and porn build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fhwxsJ

Trying to install windows with an external dvd drive and i've tried Google but, nothing has worked for me. The error im getting is that it needs a driver.

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Can someone tell me if i've fucked up anywhere or does this look good?

>>56433838
>AMD
>1600w
>160gb hard drive
>windows 8
try again senpai

>>56433807
ffxv is console only bud.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mPwxsJ

r8

I'm looking for a good TN 21" or 22" 60Hz monitor for muh games. Any advice ?

>>56428898
this is a little over $500 but if you reuse your case and/or your drives you'll be set on price

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sF7Kpb

>>56434664
Unless you do literally any professional work that can be threaded (encoding, photoshop/after effects/ premier pro/ etc.)

For gaming sure get the 6600k/6700k. For uses besides gaming the 6800k is fine for the price but you're probably able to find ES xeons on ebay with more cores for less compared to the 6950x.

>>56436401

why tn? cheap ips screens are around the same price

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/bMqdnQ/viewsonic-monitor-va2249s ips

http://pcpartpicker.com/product/Rwdqqs/aoc-monitor-e2260swdn tn

>>56435909
there's nothing really wrong with it but you can get similar performance for far less:

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/PH6C6X

* the i7 can be swapped to an i5 to save a good chunk of money for minimal performance loss in games. if you're not overclocking then get a locked processor and h110 board to save even more

* smaller cooler, but performs on the same level as the 212 evo. cheap coolers may hold you back if you're really going to push your chip as much as you can. get something bigger like a cryorig h5 or even a dual-tower if so.

* more barebones z170 board. it'll still overclock just fine and has all the ports you need but lacks sli support

* cheaper ram, minor frequency increases aren't worth the 25 extra britbong bux

* much cheaper, larger ssd. sata3 is still damn fast, you'll only really notice a speed difference between it and nvme when handling huge files. for general usage and gaming it's not worth imo

* i'd avoid sli and instead buy a single faster card. issues are still common, and it's a lot more power and heat. dx12/vulkan may change the reliance on shitty drivers but i'd just stick with what works

* cheaper case, comes with four fans

* cheaper, higher quality psu based on seasonic g. 550w is more than enough. review here:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=382

hope this helps, just my two cents. i'd take that potential money saved and put it towards a big dick 1440p gsync monitor like the xb271hu.

Hoping someone can give some recommendations, having a hard time finding a reverse orientation case. Need one that will sit on the left, with a motherboard tray on the left and a side panel that opens to the right. Anybody know of any that are still being sold?

Examples:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139070
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163279
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163240
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345013
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811517030

I got my d15 and ripjaws4 3200mhz 16 kit. Also decided to cheap out and get a 5820k from frys electronics instead of finding a used 5930k. Goal is 4.7, accepting 4.6s. If it makes 4.5 with low voltages but wont do higher I might still keep it. RAM goal is 3400 14/15. SOC champion is in the mail. Should be a pretty sick system to hold me over for a few years til some really cool stuff comes out.

>>56437020
Your goal is 4.7Ghz on air? Good luck unless you get a golden chip.

My 5820k can hit 4.7ghz on water, but I keep it at 4.4GHz daily.

>>56428987
not the best or the worst if you can save money by getting HIS then it's worth it, In my experience, HIS are actually pretty alright, I had one of their cards and it just won't die.

>>56436803
> the i7 can be swapped to an i5 to save a good chunk of money for minimal performance loss in games. if you're not overclocking then get a locked processor and h110 board to save even more

A lot of titles will benefit the 8 threads of the i7. Depend on the game he's playing, but I really think an i7 over an i5 on a gaming pc is worth it.

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Any suggestions on how to reduce cost (case, wi fi card, mouse, HHDs, motherboard) are welcome.
I absolutely can't go more expensive on CPU, GPU, RAM, monitor.

Any backlit keyboard to recommend? (I love the $20 regular microsoft ones and never had a mechanical one but can't afford to get into them just yet)

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vpWk9W

R9 380x or GTX 960. Which one do I get and why?

>>56437292
Maybe monitor I could go a bit more if there is a good reason (I won't get something better because of muh 4k or muh 60fps geams).

Also is matte a good option? I used to have a glossy Asus one and it was gorgeous during the night however a bit of light would ruin it right away.
Also looking my depressed face reflection when I was shitposting/gaming was a terrible experience.

>>56437302
R9 380x because it's better.

>>56437221
i think you're right, that's why i left it on the list and stated that the i5 was a good alternative. for gaming the difference is small overall but grows every day as more games start utilizing those extra threads. generally i'd say stick with the i5 until you can fit a big dick gpu like the 1080 in, then move up to the i7 if you've still got the cash for it.

Okay niggers do you think that a 500€ computer will run warband at 60fps on max settings

>>56437385
>muh 60fps

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did I fuck up /g/?

already built and running like a dream

>>56437399
have you ever tried playing warband at anything lower than 45 fps dude
you haven't been there
you don't know shit
end my suffering
[spoiler] l play terraria on 40fps max you fucking cunt [/spoiler]

>>56437327
this is >>56437292

is this true? Should I also choose a RX 470 instead of a GTX 970 even if the core clock is slightly slower?

>>56437411
You fucked up by buying an overpriced motherboard that offers you little to nothing over a board that costs 1/2 as much. You also got a 1000w PSU for a computer that will struggle to pull 450w. Finally you got a hyper 212 EVO instead of something like the NH-D15 or similar quality coolers.

7/10, you might have a fine system, but you could've saved enough to buy a monitor with how much you wasted on things that give you zero extra performance.

How can I do cable management on a finish PC I built? Would I remove wiring and such and reorganize it that way?

Is the SSD installed on top of the area where I keep the PSU, or inside the hard drive shelf? I installed it in the hard drive shelf and it works fine.

How can I keep my graphics card from falling, I have an AMD RX 480 and it's a bit bulky and as a result keeps falling from the cartridge it's held on whenever I try to move my PC around.

>>56437077

Ive seen others doing 4.5/4.6 24/7 on air. I dont mind running a little warm or cranking the AC for better ambient on really hot days. I currently run a [email protected] on a worse cooler with slightly less voltage then im expecting and max LLC. Theres more airflow ideas im playing with too. Im pretty sure the chances of getting a chip that can do 4.6 at reasonable voltage isnt too bad. Also I specifically got the 5820k locally so I can return it if its not up to par with my standards.

>>56437411
>only 16GB of memory

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>>56437292
>http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/vpWk9W

bumpity fammi.

>>56437534
>teehee he fell for the meme :3

FUCK OFF.

>>56437588
you fell for the memory is a meme meme anon

>>56437609
Ha! Jokes on you, I was merely pretending.

>>56430401
>I want best of the best
>not using E7 CPU

Nigga please.

>>56437534
>>56437609
>muh 4K
>muh 60fps
>muh more than 8GB ram

>>56437653
E7's are only good for highly parallel workloads.

For anything between 1-4 threads you're still better off using a 6700k OC'D to hell.

>>56434131
It looks like you're using some boutique "custom" computer making service. They charge a fuckload of money, and usually have horribly unbalanced systems.

Building your own allows you to buy whatever parts you want, in any budget range you want.
>>56434608
Look up benchmarks for games you want to play, buy parts accordingly.
Gtx 1060 beats the shit out of gtx 970 in every aspect, and is actually cheaper.

>>56437451
I just looked up that mobo. Wtf? Why is it so expensive? What does it offer over a garden variety z170 board?

>>56437760
It has some features that are essential for LN2 cooling, but it's simply over priced as fuck for anyone outside extreme OCing.

>>56437447
They're completely different chips based on different architectures. You should be looking at benchmarks, not GHz.

>>56431948
Look into a socket am1 system.

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>>56428421
Hi,

RIght now i have an i5 2500k, What would be a sensible range AMD CPU for a new build? Would like to try out AMD for change, and the new i5 6600K is way expensive.

Pic related, it needs an mitx and right now im using matx.

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>This motherboard does not support DIMMs made up of 512Mb (64MB) chips or less (Memory chip capacity counts in Megabit, 8 Megabit/Mb = 1 Megabyte/MB).
Should I really worry about this?

>>56438211
Why are you even upgrading the CPU? The 2500k is still pretty good if you OC it.

Anyway, unless it's urgent, you should wait until Zen comes out. First chips should be out in a couple months.

Where do I buy cool ricer lights for the inside of my case?

Do I power them with my PSU?

>Get 32+ GB of dual channel RAM (single channel is for shitters)
>AMD is for shitters
>Quad core is for shitters
Did I miss anything?

>>56434958
I got zero results.
>>56438419
I hope you haven't taken any of those seriously.

>>56438419
16GB is fine for 90% of people. 32GB+ is only for professionals and people running RAMDisks.

The rest is basically true.

>>56438313
Then it might be a better idea to just change to motherboard to mitx and keep the rest of the system instead of doing a full upgrade?

Crit my build guys:
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HbzhkT

>>56438705
Depends on how much you'll end up paying for the MOBO.

>>56438419

>he thinks single vs dual channel matters

Unless you render for hours on end or have some other highly specialised workload it makes zero difference.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel

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So this is the final few changes I've made
Any suggestions?

>>56439046
Note, the power supply is a left over from my previous build

>>56439046
>6400

Just don't.

>>56439132
What's wrong with it?

>>56439190
Way too weak. Get a 6600 instead.

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What is a good GPU benchmark site?

>>56439238
>6600
why not 6700

>>56439369
Gee anon, why not a 6950k

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>>56439369
Not everyone needs 4c 8t, especially not gaymers. Devs suck with CPU optimization in their games and as such most titles still only need one or two cores at best.

>>56434297
You have the cheapest 1070 because it's a blower-style fan, which most people would rather not have (unless you're overclocking or loading it for hours it won't matter)
That 1-star reviewed one doesn't have a backplate, so it could possibly sag and bend over time. Other than one that evga is great

>>56439429
Actually if you look at benchmarks for recent titles, many of them take a big hit to the FPS moving from i3 to pentium.

>>56439429
>>56439393
yeah sure it's unecessary if you want to do pleb tier gaming. If you want to run games like deus ex at 60fps it's p much essential. 6600 should pretty much stay in the trash

>>56428421
>paidadvertisingincrements.com
When will this meme end? Since falcon sold out, this should have been disavowed.

>>56439190
Consumerism meme. You could just as well get an i3 and see no performance difference.

>>56439008
I mean I guess
The motherboard, cooler, and possibly CPU (don't know what you're all doing with it) can be lowered in price significantly

>>56437385
No because the devs are hacks.

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God /g/, I love you.

So I'm playing vidya, and my PC crashes. Shit. Then I run Speccy (which I haven't done in years), and realize: I don't even have 16GB of RAM. Just 8. And my GTX 580 that's been treating me so well through the years? Video card probably needs an update.

So I say "I gotta go on /g/, maybe they have a PC Building General". And lo and behold, it's the first thread here.


So lads. Thoughts on what RAM and GPU to buy? I'm looking "best-bang-for-your-buck" items on sale, but I'm open to any recommendation. I'm always on my PC, so I'm okay with making a good investment in upgrading it. My Speccy is shown here. My PC is not pre-built. The PSU is 750W.

Thanks as always, /g/.

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>>56439587
Here's my Speccy.

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>>56439046
Looks like a cute little machine that'll work

>>56439587
>no budget
You're too stupid to be given any realistic recommendations.

>>56439310
3dmark
Unigine_Heaven-4.0

>>56439605
Rx-480 GPU.

RAM won't matter too much, get whatever is decent price.

Start saving up for a platform upgrade you'll need a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM by mid-late 2017.

>>56439622
How so? I said I'm
>open to any recommendation
so that I can then go in and individually decide whether I want to pursue an expensive purchase or not.
Of course, I'd like to not spend $1000 on a single part or two, but if it's worth it, then I may just go for it.

How's this for a budget? $300 on the GPU.

>>56439587
Ram is ram, get ddr4-2133 if you have a skylake setup on a non-overclockable board/CPU, get ddr4-3000 if it supports it, I don't know what you're using but I assume it only takes ddr3, just get 2 more sticks it really doesn't make a big deal
The best GPU, that's a hard one. The RX480 is probably the best price/performance right now, with the 1060 having a very slim lead. The 1070 is probably the most popular right now and the 1080 is great but not good enough for 4K, so it's not exactly a future 4K card

Which GTX 1080 should I buy? Acer or MSI?

>>56439692
Yes.

>>56439692
I bought an MSI 1070 because it's red

>>56439692
don't buy either until the price drop

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>>56439634
>Rx-480 GPU.

Thanks. I'll read into it anon! The only AMD cards I ever used where a 5670, 5770 & 6850. Good times with those.

> you'll need a new motherboard, CPU, and RAM by mid-late 2017.

Ah crap. Well, 5 years for a platform change isn't too bad I reckon. What do you guys do with old parts? Recycle them or turn them into another PC?

>>56439680
>I assume it only takes ddr3, just get 2 more sticks it really doesn't make a big deal
Sweet. Thanks. And thanks for your GPU recommendations. Another one for the RX480 it looks like. I'll look into the Nvidia 10-line too like you listed.


You guys have any brand preference for GPU's? I've always bought XFX, Gogabyte, and Sapphire.

>>56439728

Price drop? When is that expected to be?

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>>56439728

there's going to be a 1080 price drop?
I may hold off on my build...

>>56439728

been hearing this forever but it's been almost four months...

>>56439661
GTX 1060 or RX 480.
For CPU, go for the i5-660K and a decent z170 board.

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>>56439728
They already have the $380 1070 they promised at the release
Feast your eyes

>>56439813
>Intel

Fuck me. I have an AMD CPU and board. I KNEW I should've bought an Intel CPU & board 5 years ago when building. Shit. I really don't want to change companies & boards aright now.

>>56439728
First time builder here, interested in hearing moar about this. Not sure when nvidia cards drop in price historically. Hopefully an anon can shed some light.

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/hYhhkT

Budget is around $1600 for the tower.

Thinking about maybe going with a full size GTX 1060 because the one I picked might have cooling issues in the ncase.

>>56439845
Wait for Zen, then. Although you'll still have to buy a new board.

>>56439827
Isn't that the 3GB cut-down version that's really a 1050?

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I can never tell when I get the upgrade itch if its warranted or not. anything in my build stand out that needs to be improved upon?

>>56439728
People keep saying this but I haven't seen any evidence.

I have an i5 4590. Is it worth eventually upgrading to a better CPU in the LGA1150 socket or should I just try a new build for kaby lake or Zen?

jumping from a fx 8320 to a 6600k or 6700k. Which one should I go with?
Explain.

>>56439877
only thing worth upgrading would be your ram t-b-h

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>>56439865
>Zen
Hmm. Stick with AMD... or go with trusty Intel?

Decent VR games when?

If there are VR games out there and not just tech demos, I would instantly buy a new system.


I guess it would be the following.

i5 6600k (overclocked to 4,4Ghz)
16Gb DDR4 ram
Z170 mini-ATX
Thermaltake Core V1
Gainward Phoenix GTX1070
550Watt Corsair RM550x
Samsung SSD SM961 256GB, M.2
Of course decent CPU cooler, decent fans too.

But I am not doing it until there are fucking VR games out on the market.
By that all those components will be outdated anyways.

>>56439888
if you can get a cheap i7 4790k then sure i guess, not really worth switching your whole platform.

>>56439845
You don't have to switch. You could grab an FX-83xx or something. And even if you did buy an Intel board, they change sockets every year or so.

>>56439845
Intel makes pointless socket changes every few years

>>56439866
The 1060's got the money-grabbing scam downgrade, the 1070s are just 1070s, this is just an ugly tiny one.
Those 3GB 1060s are like $200 though, obviously not worth it but still low

>>56439728

>price drop
Is this a meme?

Post mini ITX cases

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YfcJM8

how'd i do

>>56439940
Yes.

>>56439894
Do you have programs that take advantage of hyperthreading?
Do you use those programs enough to warrant $100 extra for faster encoding and editing-type shit?
Because without hyperthreading, they're almost the same thing
The 6600 is great but the 6700 has its uses

>>56439888
Skylake is barely better than Haswell, and even according to Intel's marketing material Kaby Lake will only be Skylake with higher clocks. And Zen will be about on par with Broadwell or slightly weaker. So the only reason to switch platform would be if you need more than 4 hyperthreaded cores.

>>56439943
Good. Although the SSD is somewhat questionable. I've seen mixed reviews.

>>56439916
It's micro-ATX or mini-ITX
But that looks good, basically what I'm gonna get
The Intel 600p m2 drives are cheaper tho

>>56439916
>mini-ATX

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>>56439925
>>56439928
>Intel makes pointless socket changes every few years

Yuck. Well thanks guys. Staying with AMD right now then. Not trying to constantly change boards.

Again, all I want to do at the moment is upgrade my GPU and RAM (well, an anon told me just buying another 8GB of ddr3 to go alongside mine is fine). So yeah, just looking for a GPU upgrade at the moment.

I'll upgrade the CPU and board once Zen comes out. Does this sound fine? Grabbing either an RX480 or a 10-line NVidia, and upgrading the CPU in mid-2017 when Zen hits?