Is 12GB the ideal amount of RAM?

>>56410800
It depends on what you're doing. If you're a professional shitposter, 2 GB is more than enough.

No, the ideal amount of ram is:
Phone: 128 GB
Camera: 512 GB
PC: 32 GB

8GB: good
12GB: retarded because you need 3 ram sticks
16GB: meme

I've got 32gb
I hardly ever use it all but it's nice to have
I also only paid $100 for all of it and it's all ecc

use whatever you think you need. 8gb is good enough but with how much chrome bloats everything you might need 16 if you like to leave a fuckload of pages open in the background

Desktop: 16 GiB to 32 GiB
Laptop: 8 GiB to 16 GiB
Phone: 2 GiB is enough
Router: 256 MiB is comfy

>>56410848
>12GB: retarded because you need 3 ram sticks
Triple Channel

>>56410800
16 is the ideal, those who say it's less are poor fags who feel threatened and inferior by rich fags who can afford 16 rams

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>>56410800
16GB is the optimum amount so 32GB would allow you to virtualize 2 16GB systems which would be plenty for any workstation.

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>>56410800
No. 16 is.

>>56410800
4GB is enough actually, unless you're a kid who wants to play trendy games or someone who virtualises a lot of shit.
8GB is enough for majority of people.
16GB is enough for current gen gamers.

>>56410800
Just get 16 you fucking autist

>>56410858
Please tell me where in Gods green earth did you find 32 fucking gigabytes of ECC for $100? The cheapest I found is at least $170

>>56410988
16 is needed when you want to browse the internet with a 2k movie playing on your 2nd screen and VMs running in the background.

>>56411017
>using more than one screen

>>56411015
>get 6x4gb off ebay for $40
>go to local pc recycler
>find another 2x4gb for $20
I lied about $100

>having less than 128GB per socket

Plebs

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r8 m8

<2 GB = Retro
2 GB = Destitute Shitbox
4 GB = Normie PC/Office Computer
8 GB = Gaming PC
16 GB = Home Workstation
32 GB = Pro Workstation
>32GB = I make serious amounts of money with my PC

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>>56411051
>not using more than one screen
Why live?
It's 2016 already dude.

>>56411092
pobre tu

>>56410973
How do you have the classic photo viewer on Windows 10?

>>56410848
>12GB: retarded because you need 3 ram sticks

x58 architecture had 6 slots and you could just fill 3.

>>56410800
The ideal amount is whatever is enough for your needs. For me it's 6GiB. For you it could be 4GiB, 8GiB, etc.

>>56411125
I peed on the poo

>>56411051
>he doesn't watch TV shows and movies on his secondary monitor while browsing/working/etc. on his primary
Plebeian

>>56411152
>watching TV while working
What's your job?

>>56411152
>wasting mental resources on secondary tasks instead of focusing on a single monitor

>>56411196
By working I meant being productive, which you can definitely do outside of work.

>>56411212
>implying it's impossible to pause a video should you need a moment of silence to think
Man it must suck being clinically retarded.

>>56411217
>productive
Like what?

>>56411212
>implying my company cares only about my tasks rather than keeping me happy AND productive
What's your job, anon?

>>56410847
What the fuck

>>56411236
>doing things so easy they don't warrant your full attention
Try harder tasks.

>>56411245
Like self education? Working on personal projects/hobbies?

>>56410800
some games can take up to 8gb of ram so 16Gb is the new normal amount of ram.

Ram is cheap as dirt anyways

12/16 is fine
Currently running 12 with no issues as one stick died.

>>56411099
This

>>56411253
>being such a moron you need to give full attention to everything you do
Must suck being clinically retarded.

>>56410800
OP why are you such a narcissist

>>56411236
You realise if you're doing something on one screen, you aren't focused at all on what's happening on the other? You're actively NOT watching whatever you think you are on the second screen. And even if you register that and "watch" it, it's going to slow down your attention on the primary screen. Unless, of course, you're doing absolutely nothing of importance or any task which doesn't require thinking.

>>56411279
I bet you can learn advanced abstract algebra or Riemannian geometry while watching TV, with ease

>>56411316
>You realise if you're doing something on one screen, you aren't focused at all on what's happening on the other?
No fucking shit. It's there for background noise, I watch it off and on and believe it or not I'm able to turn my head to the other monitor should something catch my attention.
>You're actively NOT watching whatever you think you are on the second screen
I never claimed otherwise.
>And even if you register that and "watch" it, it's going to slow down your attention on the primary screen
If I'm able to get shit done while still "watching" TV, why the hell shouldn't I? Oh that's right, you have no reason other than you thinking everyone's got the same simpleton mind that you do.

>>56411324
Well obviously if I'm learning something new I'm going to pause and focus on the learning. I never said you should watch TV while doing literally everything and anything. But to not when you're able to, that's just silly.

>>56410800
You can never have too much RAM.

>>56411372
What do you need background noise for? Unless you're trying to keep yourself awake.

>>56411407
I prefer having background noise, always have. Plus here and there something catches my attention and I watch for a few moments, makes everything far less monotonous.

>>56411407
>not stimulating your second brain half
Enjoy being retarded then.

>>56411372
>background "noise" is only achievable by using a separate monitor which plays visual media
You can achieve all that by simply opening a song, or you know, opening the movie in the background and just switching to it when you want to continue watching

>>56411451
>I'm a special snowflake

>>56411476
Who are you quoting?

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I just don't know how people can feel comfortable with 8GB in 2016

>>56410873
>triple channel
>on a home pc
please be bait

>>56410800
What a horrible thread.
More RAM is better.

>>56411462
You're a one shitty troll.
Go practise on your friends and get back when you're ready. Oh wait, you don't have any. Lel.

>>56411499
Why not?

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>>56411506
Not him but Linus Torvalds maintains the world's largest open source project with only 1 monitor, and a walking desk.

>>56411543
Good for him, I couldn't give less of a shit.

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>>56411543
So? Am I supposed to care?
>look guyse at these idiots from spacex! They still haven't learnt to use a single monitor setups! Ha-ha, what a bunch of losers!
Now you can kys.

>>56411569
>>56411590
What do you accomplish with your 2 monitors?

>>56411606
You can watch anime and browse 4chan

>>56411606
I only use the second one for media consumption. I prefer multiple monitors but it's a TV and doesn't work well as a monitor.

>>56411543
Is that supposed to be an argument?
Don't you feel ashamed of using such retarded logic? Or is that just your insecurity and the feel that you need to act exactly as celebrities?
Just get the fuck outta this thread.

Yeah for a phone.

>>56411606
I'm not going to repeat myself.
Eat shit you retarded lump of dry cum

>>56411606
Please stop embarrassing yourself and leave.

>>56410847

Crossing RAM and ROM

>wew lad

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>not watching TV while """working""" is embarrassing

I have 32GB. In my old computer I had 8. In my laptop I have 2. In each case that much RAM was enough, at least at the time I purchased the RAM (my 8GB was seriously shitting on my party before I changed computers). It is a matter of how you use it.

>>56410847
>phone
>camera

>implying it's a separate device

>>56410821
*Kek

>>56411690
Who are you quoting? Your imaginary anime girlfriend?

>>56411694
>implying it can't be

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>>56411051
>having less than 7

>>56411690
>I'm so retarded I need to put my full attention into whatever I do
I bet you need to stop walking to breathe (not that you walk much)

>>56411737
Nice dildo, desu senpai

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>>56411748
>the work i do is so simple-minded, i have to watch TV to not get bored
Wow

>>56410800
>>56410873

Desktop: 16 GiB to 32 GiB
Agreed
Laptop: 8 GiB to 16 GiB
16GB is better but 8 is survivable.
Phone: 2 GiB is enough
It used to be but app developers are getting lazier so 4GB is comfy.
>Router: 256 MiB is comfy
Depends what os you're running and what services you have going. My IPFire box has 8GB and is quite comfy with that while my Firebox does fine with 1GB.

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>>56411748
#shrekt

>>56411771
As I've already stated
>implying it's impossible to pause the show/movie when my full attention is needed
Man you really are retarded.

>>56411737
>Windows operating system
>Gaming paraphernalia
>PC case with window
>"""needs""" multiple monitors
Checks out

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>>56410800
Depends on your use case

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>>56411789
>watching movies so simple-minded, they don't demand your full attention
:^)

>>56411793
check yourself nigger
that's a windows vm running on top of linux

>>56411805
If I've already seen it I've got a pretty good idea of what's going on.

>>56411667
What do you accomplish with your 2 monitors?

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>>56411780
>Eight 10 core CPUs with hyperthreading
>Fucking terabyte of RAM
>3 disks that can read about 1GB/s
>2 gigabit NICs in tandem

Fuck.

>>56411902
>2 NIC's
literally every server on the planet has that
maybe if it was dual 10Gbit

>>56411902
And the fuckers waste it all on Windows

The fuck kind of game are you gonna play on those 160 cores?

>>56410848
>8GB: good
Off yourself.

>>56411933
maybe it's running as a big VM host
and it's obviously windows server fuckface

you'd have to be a absolute madman to waste that much money on high tier server shit and use it for gaymen

>>56411933
Windows Server is so inefficient, you need 160 cores to utilize it fully.

>>56411966
But if it's a VM host then why not use a real VM hosting solution or hypervizor instead of fucking Windows Server?

Only explanation that I have is that the administrator of that server is incompetent and can only handle GUI point-and-click administration

>>56411988
Maybe they work at Microsoft and is forced to use it.

>>56411988
because of wondows aktiv direktorie
if you're a big company it's cheaper to hire some fuck to manage a bunch of windows thin clients than some autist to come in and install gentoo

>>56412003
What does a domain controller need 160 cores for?

>>56411933
Video processing? Although doing that on CPUs is kinda dumb i agree.

>>56411933
He could be a 3D artist

>>56411902
Even my consumer board has 2xGigabit.
I bet that's dual 10Gbit.

>>56412011
to run everything on one machine probably
only enough in the budget for one phat server

>>56412017
It could be video encoding, that's done on CPUs - but even in that case it would be simpler to have some dedicated Linux/FFmpeg machines running batch jobs than some stupid point-and-click windows server interface..

>>56410847
Well Android phones are getting ridiculous amounts of ram so 128 GB will be the minimum amount to run Android 12.0

>>56411269
Maybe you wouldnt be a worthless shut in NEET if you turned off that garbage and focues on one thing

>>56411270
>Ram is cheap as dirt anyways
But anon, You can get dirt from anywhere. Do you think I can get 16gb of DDR4 3000mhz anywhere?

>>56412242
lel, he mad

>>56410800
more ram, more efficient the use of ram disk.
using 8gb atm on laptop, it would be great having more...

>>56411125
You have to activate the registry key. Google windows 10 photo viewer registry or something

>not using one ultra huge 1 TB ram drive
>not just backing up your system every time you want to save it
>ram is a meme
lol kiddo, come back when you hit puberty

>>56410800
>he isn't part of the 640GB masterrace

>>56411443
>having a shit attention span
Wow it must be sad not being able to focus without having garbage shoved down your throat 24/7.

>>56410967
Who the fuck would put their computer and monitor on the edge like that

>>56411113
Fuck yes, L4D.

I'm running 16 gigs right now, with another 16 gigs on the way.

>2016
>not going overkill on RAM

I do well with 6gb of ram

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Hate to be ``that guy'' but 12 GiB is probably only enough for the Facebook crowd, not for a regular /g/ poster

>>56411737
You only need 7 since they are 12" each. Just get 2-3 normal human-sized monitors and you'll be just fine.

32GB here.
Playing the BF1 beta without dealing with the memory leak has been nice.
Sometimes, I use 60-65% if I'm in Photoshop and Netflix and have some botnet tabs up.

>>56410800
i've seen many games use over 8gb recently

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>>56410800
I don't know OP. Depends what you do really, personally i don't like having too many processes in the background, meaning i terminate what i can, so 8 is more than enough for me.

>>56414962
Jordan, you autistic little shit, could you please stop using your retarded tripcode?
Just fucking stop

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>>56411125
If you have Windows 10, you go back to Windows 7 for it. Or edit the registry...

If you have Windows 10 Anniversary Addition aka Windows 10 Master Race Addition... You can literally set it in the options.

Although I think Photos is much better now that I tried it.

>>56411676

Crossing ROM with Storage

>wew lad

>>56411499
Bloomfield i7 sempaitachi

http://ark.intel.com/products/58664/Intel-Core-i7-980-Processor-12M-Cache-3_33-GHz-4_8-GTs-Intel-QPI

>>56411499
>he's too underage b& to remember that first gen i7 systems used triple-channel ram

>>56418394
[housefire intensifies]

No
the majority of motherboards have either 2 or 4 slots
4 slot boards tend to be dual channel

that means optimally you have:
2x2gb
2x4gb
2x8gb

or

4x2gb
4x4gb
4x8gb

there are not many sticks in 3 or 6 gb formats

>>56418428
a 14nm 6800k has a higher TDP while having the same amount of cores/threads and only slightly higher clockspeed

>>56418451
and it's 200% faster, plus it has a pretty nice iGPU.

>>56412072
It is only ridiculous because the gpu shares the ram.

For example my pc has 16gb of ram and my gpu has I think 4gb, giving me 20gb.

>>56418471
and it has a 140W TDP, so it's the definition of a housefire. also, you seem to erroneously think that there have been miraculous IPC gains over the last 6 years. a first gen core i7 is not the same as a netburst pentium 4, dumbass.

>>56410848
I use more than 8 GB of RAM right now.
Almost 12 GB actually.

>>56418505
i7-6800k has a iGPU. It's 20W TDP.
i7-980 is shit and you know it.

>>56417859
>Although I think Photos is much better now that I tried it.
Can you full screen in Photos now?
And I mean FULL SCREEN, no slideshow that switches to the next photo after a few seconds.

If not, then POO IN THE LOO, Windows 10 is shit

>>56418538
why is it shit? because you say so? go back to your gaymen with your newest mainstream intel quad-core CPU

>>56418650
I'm not a gaymen. Stop trying to justify using 5 years old hardware. You might be poor, but it doesn't mean new 14nm CPUs are worse or only slightly better.

>>56410800
No, the ideal amount of ram is 128GB.

You use 64GB as a RAM disk to avoid write wear on your SSDs, and the rest you divvy up between VMs.

>>56410847
He Is right you know.webm

>>56411875
One for the ide.

The other one for the documentation.

Atm im using only one monitor and switching desktops is not so comfi as looking at the other monitor.

And thats only one reason.

>>56418750
>you must be a consumerist whore and upgrade your PC all the time, even if your old hardware still works just fine

>>56410800
Hey kid, I understand that "memes" can be funny, heck even I've chuckled at some "memes" at a point, but you've been chucklin' for the last 45 minutes and others are actually tryin to sleep. So please take a break from those "memes" It's probably healthy for you and who knows? maybe your "memes" will be even funnier tomorrow! Well good night kiddo, and no more memes for now okay? thanks homie

>>56417590
He doesnt know that he is already filtered by everyone. I never understand why people filter namefaggers . Since I have read his garbage posts know i wy

>>56418816
Who are you quoting?

PC: 16-32GB
Preferably have half of it as a RAM Drive so you can mount shit in it. SSDs are fast. But they aren't RAM-fast.
Or if you game, that 16 is basically about to become the new "recommended" for smooth running.

Laptop: 8-16GB
You'll probably only need 8 in this. Unless you are a gamhurr with your epic Alienwank.
But mind you, if you do media work, can't hurt. Slap a 16GB in there, RAM Drive it up for speed scratch space in PS, or speedy temp for video editing.

Phones and Tablets: 2, No more than 4, really.
4GB is absolutely fine in these situations.
Having any more will just be a drain on battery life.
I'd personally prefer 4 since I use my Tablet for multitasking work pretty much 75% of the time. (drawing with an image reference open, editing JS with browser view open, or a script with interpreter view open, etc.)

Router: 1gig if pre-made shit. 4 or more if you have your own custom-built router.
Having a custom-built router is a great thing.
You can install adblockers for shitty hosts (or all if you are that way)
You can block malware.
Do realtime virus scans, data leak scans.
You can proxy your whole connection very easily, or specific hosts.
You can cache the whole DNS locally (which is where the memory really comes in)
Or you can just manually cache DNS names you care about and blacklist everything else. (whitelisting is preferred to blacklisting, if you want to block shit, "you know what you want, you don't know what you don't want", -Halo from Doom Nukem)

>>56411316
>this idiot thinks full focus constantly is a good thing.
You can only give full focus for 50-60 odd minutes before your brain is, CHEMICALLY PROVABLE, fatigued.
Regular minor distractions is a Good Thing.

Juggling multiple tasks that require different regions of the brain is a great way for your brain to rest and clear shit out.

Tasks that are heavily logical and creative are a good example of tasks requiring hugely different regions of the brain. (with minor crossover, depending on the task)


All of those recent multitasking studies saying otherwise have been debunked already as being horribly shitty in scientific rigour, not to mention picking some of the worst people for it, people still in fucking puberty. (you don't leave that shit till early 20s)
These peoples brains are in constant flux of synapses being produced and cross-talking and causing problems because of the information rich worlds we live in. It literally is too much for the brain, it is information overload.

Meanwhile people past those ages have zero problems doing loads of major and minor tasks together. (unless it is some doped up retard, but they aren't people)

>>56411543
>doing multiple tasks
>the gif

>>56410800
Intel i5 6500 + GTX 1060 here
I have 8 GB of RAM, they're more than enough for any activity imo. Even the most advanced games barely use more than 6 GB RAM anyways.
Remember: more RAM doesn't improve performance. The important thing is just to have enough for what you need. 8 GB is the standard now and it will be the standard for a long time.
Refer to Logical Increments for more info, they know what they write about.

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>>56410800
not for me

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Is 32gb even enough these days?

>>56410848
>3 sticks for 12GB
I have 12GB with 2x4GB sticks and 2x2GB sticks

>>56419357
Are you high?

>>56419440
yeah just close chrome and your gtg

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>>56410885
>>56410967
>>56410973
>>56410989
>>56413500

>he fell for the 16GiB RAM meme

>>56419660
Not at all. Maybe you just don't know how things work or take /g/'s recommendations too easily

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>He doesn't have enough RAM to reserve 4+GB just for a RAMDisk

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>he doesn't put his swap in a 16GB RAM Disk

>>56418640
You can pause the slideshow by right clicking.

>>56410800
depends on your workflow, I work in statistics and my laptop has 64gb, sometimes even that falls short.

of course, that is, if you are not a NEET, for shitposting 4gb is fine.

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>>56410800
I dunno but my 16GB are comfy as fuck.