Should ISPs start throttling the connection speeds of people

>>56408379

why do you even hav to ask

>>56408379
If i was an IPS I would block all ads traffic t ISP level.

Because fuck you lol.

>>56408379
Yes! My site has lost over 10k in revenue due to adblock users.

>>56408379
That would be an illegal thanks to net neutrality laws

>>56408416

your users would gladly make up for the losses if your work wasn't absolute garbage

Why would they do it? People who block ads use less bandwidth which in turn saves money for the ISP.

>>56408379
No because it saves them bandwidth by blocking requests, so they don't have to deliver extra content.

The only reason American ISPs would want this is because most of them are owned by the media companies.

Why would ISPs throttle users for using a function that eases the traffic load, when the one and only excuse for throttling is precisely traffic management?
Are you high OP?

>>56408491
what can i say, you got me. becoming php web dev was best decision of my life

>>56408416
Try adding a donate button

>>56408379
It's not their fucking business
It's exactly like torrenting, they don't give a shit about you since they just give you the internet

The one and ONLY place that this could happen is in the land of the corps

>>56408379
They can't ever do that, they need a way of checking which plugins you have enabled which they can't with a simple router. USB based mobile network providers might do that, but only on Windows (maybe OS X) since it needs to install a connection program (app) while linux can connect without it, that program could send telemetry. Even then, you can stop incoming connections locally on your machine by adding domains to the hosts file and I don't think any ISP would know you're blocking ads.
Sure they can see which domains you've made connection to so they know if you've never connected to an ad domain, but they can't just assume you're blocking ads. For example, let's say I'm only visiting 4chan and nothing else for a week and I have a 4chan account so I don't see any ads, they can't throttle my Internet speed just because I haven't seen a single ad in a while.
Some ISPs could try to do it, especially in cuck countries like Germany where they fine you a shit ton for torrenting. But I don't think they would, since it's very difficult to prove you're blocking ads.

>>56408416
you can't lose what you didn't have in the first place

Other way around. ISPs should charge advertisers

>implying we'd even enforce it
I work for a 5 guy local ISP and we are even too lazy to enforce speed limits and take down cancelled clients connections
Uncovered one on thusday, client cancelled in march '15 and was still running

>>56408513

>ads make up a significant amount of the Internet a traffic

wew

>>56408379
>Should ISPS start violating net neutrality?

>>56408379
>Teaching the Controversy

>walking down town
>see students passing out leaflets, promoting some shit
>they hand me out a leaflet
>I refuse
>they don't get any money because they get money based on how many leaflets they handed out
WOW HOLY SHIT HOW FUCKING DARE THESE PEOPLE NOT TAKE THE LEAFLETS, WE SHOULD FORM SOME KIND OF LINE WHERE PEOPLE ARE FORCED TO TAKE THE LEAFLET IF THEY WANT TO CROSS THE STREET

I used to not care about ads. And then they started using 100% of my cpu and locking up my disks for hours. Are you a boy or a girl? Critical alert from microsoft! congratulations, you've won! warning, do not play this game unless you are 18.

>>56409469
Bloated Javascript and shit actually do.
Sometimes more than the page itself.

>>56408379
>should
No, fuck off ad is cancer.

>>56409469
They can be between 5% and 10% of data on a site. Depending on how large they are, if they're animated or video ads.

>>56408786
This. I don't know why he feels entitled to that money.

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>>56408422
>thanks to net neutrality laws
They're working on it.

>>56408379
DON'T GIVE THEM IDEAS YOU C U C K

>>56408416

So instead of politely asking people to disable Adblock because you need it to survive, you want to circumvent them by forcing them to endure ads?

You don't deserve that 10k you lost, amigo.

>>56409889 >>56409950
Internet sites barely make up a significant amount of traffic. Streaming (videos, music), downloading or uploading large files (e. g. torrenting) does, among other things.
But normal web browsing? Nah.

>>56408491
>>56408549
Not him, but what route would you go for accepting donations?

My site runs no ads because I dont really mind the $10/m bill, but I have had people literally asking to be able to donate to me. The issue I have with donations though is privacy, if I go down the Paypal path then donors will know my full name and possibly more, if I go down the BTC path then barely anyone will do it.

>>56408379
no, that's against net neutrality

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>>56408416
>lost over 10k in revenue due to adblock users
Man, I wonder where all those poor users are going to find and purchase all the products and services they so desperately needed and wanted from the ads on your website that they now block.

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>>56408379
Make it illegal. It really messes up things for company's who's business is online

I work for a company and they lose tons of money because you cannot advertise at all online because many people won't even see your ad so it's pointless buying up ads, so our marketing team is really suffering with trying to find ways of advertising but adblock is a major problem.

>>56410168
has your company tried killing themselves?

>>56410168
Integrate ads in your site.

>>56410049
Yes, they actually do.
It isn't only bad browser code which eats up RAM, but also shitty website coding which takes 50% of the blame.
If you ever cared to calculate bandwidth when accessing various sites, you'd notice how much memory they eat up.

does the isp directly receive revenue for serving that ad?

then no, they won't bother with such a pointless system

>>56408406
>If i was an IPS I would block all ads traffic t ISP level.

and sell my own ads or +5% for adfree feature
>ftfy

>>56410168
Do you really think these people who make the effort, albeit little, to block ads would purchase what you're shilling or even click on them? If this is your company's business model then it deserves to fail.
>so our marketing team is really suffering with trying to find ways of advertising
this
>>56410189

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvp97SMZc6M

>>56410189
cut yourself NEET.

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Every time I fix or even use a computer or phone I install HTTPS everywhere and ublock origin without telling the owner

>>56408379
>should ISPs start throttling people who reduce their costs?

>>56410210
>memory usage == page size

>>56410246
>corporate cuck is mad he gets yelled at by his boss because he can't advertise his shit

>>56408416
cuck

>>56408379
Yes. Tons of money gets wasted because idiots adblock. Just ban it outright, stupid normalfags don't care.

god i hate capitalists who get money on internet
it was meant for free, you can try to evade ad blockers, but we will win anyway because of nature of www

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>>56410248
No good deed, my friend. Wait until they call you because you "broke their computer" because they can no longer watch their firstrow streams or some shit. I've literally had people tell me not to install adblock because they like youtube better with commercials.

it's unsafe to not use an adblocker these days, since ads are a common attack vector

>>56410295
That's a good thing. Ads pay for the site.

>>56408416
I'm not sure if it's just samefagging or if /g/ actually falls for this easy bait.

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>>56410307

>>56408379
This question is purely trying to illicit a reaction. ISPs have no interest in doing the bidding of advertisers against the will of subscribers.

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>>56410295

I've never had that problem and I've been doing it for years. Only one person has ever noticed, and they told me how happy they were that their computer 'suddenly stopped getting ads'

>>56410051
If you need to be anonymous that bad, then that's your problem m8.

>>56410327
You need to stop

Ads eat up more bandwidth. Why would an ISP be against people using less bandwidth?

>>56410332
Freedom is a right, not a need, faggot.

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>>56410344
no, he doesn't

even if they did, adblockers would just adapt. load the ads, but discard whatever is received. your isp wont ever know.

Should ISPs start throttling the connection of people who use the web without ever seeing a single ad?

Should ISPs start inserting ads into their traffic?

4chan will die because of your ignorance. Adblock is cancer.

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>>56410344

Explain why I should stop

>>56410381
I whitelist 4chan

>>56410344
>>56410327

The absolute madman!

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>>56410322
Unless, of course, advertisers begin paying them as well.

>>56410168
Ads don't work online because the web is a pull medium. If I don't request ads I don't get ads.
Now if you buy a billboard next to a freeway in California then you'll get some recognition.

I can count on 1 hand how many times I've seen a ad online for something that actually interested me.

>>56410295
I'd be fine with ads on YouTube if adblockers were intelligent enough to unblock only on videos from people I subscribe to

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>>56410381
>unblock 4chan
>use userscript to hide ads but still load them

My contract with my ISP does not include a clause that I cannot use an adblocker. If they throttled my connection for this reason, they would be in clear breach of contract, and I would sue them.

Additionally, I don't believe ISPs make much if any money off of ads in the data they transmit. Any attempt to arrange such a profit would be at best an extremely poor public relations move, and at best against federal regulations in my country. So again, they would both gain no benefit from and be harmed by doing so.

So I'd advise they not attempt it.

>>56410442
>adblockers user was intelligent enough
FTFY

>>56410312
it's always a combination of both

posts that get a lot of replies are almost never "organic"

>>56410051
>I don't really mind the $10/m bill
>If I use BTC, then I won't get that much money from strangers to pay the bill I don't mind

You have no problem but inherent greed.

>>56410470
What did you mean by this?
I'm too lazy to have to unblock when I watch certain videos and reblock when I watch random drivel

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>>56408379
No. Instead, marketing should be outlawed altogether. Oblige every citizen to research which product is best for them.

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Illegal in the EU

>>56410505
Lazy and dumb, one usually follow the others.

>>56410524
No it's not

>>56408379
Fuck no

>>56410376
Should ISPs start inserting ads into their traffic?

the future why deal with middle men called site owners when you can dip you pen at the source

>>56410521
Woah. Now you just full commie. Next you're going to say branding should also be outlawed, and supermarkets as well, and goods should be distributed by the state.
OR
People should stop being dumb inane fucks and choose the products and services they deem worthy of purchase, not based on marketing, but rather quality, craftsmanship, durability, and value. Then bam, advertising would be meaningless, and you didn't even have to pass new laws or burn the white house down.

>>56410381
the ~200k IP traffic worth something, this isn't a constant developed site, this just needs a small server with enough bandwidth to upload and serve images for ~100k IP

>>56409985
just 1 link my server please

>>56410505
>I'm too lazy

there is your problem you millennial

>>56408379
No.
We have a stupid questions general, try asking there

>>56410521
Just curious. What happens if you do this?

>>56410051
You can get away with doing a hell of a lot with a pseudonym. Since paypal requires a real bank account I am not sure how you would go about doing it but I am sure there is a legal way to do this.

>>56408379
Remember that the Internet didn't exist before ads. :^)

>>56410769
Google makes even more shekels by manipulating search results like they do with google maps.

>>56408416

good. close down already.

>>56408379

no, go fuck your self with a hot fireplace poker.

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>>56409985

>mfw that super old image is still being posted.

Ban ad blockers.

>>56410964
Google should just take them all off their addon site like they did with (((coincidence detector))).

>>56409985
I want this to be real so bad.

>>56410955
>cesspool

>>56411016
Where can you download the detector from now?

Why don't they make them illegal? Fuck.

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Answer:No

Today /g/entoomen i will give you the adverting sekret forum admins don't want (You) to know.

Paid stickies
Basically, you pay a forum admin to sticky your thread. Make an informative thread and you'll get tons of people coming to your service.

Too bad Forums are slow these days.

>>56411138
We've got enough victimless crimes, no thanks.

>>56410769
Full disclosure here, it would probably be a disaster.

>>56411439
Why? Does it fuck up normalfags that bad?

>>56410168
>your source of revenue is ads
Fuck you
Fuck people like you.
Find something else to win money, like selling content, service, goodies or something. If your content doesn't worth money, reconsider your site and your reason to live.
Or do something else to earn money, but fuck ads.
Ads should never be necessary, only a bonus for another revenue.
If you force people seeing ads, you don't respect they liberty of seeing whatever they want, then fuck you even more
I hope you and your colleagues are going fired because your business loose a money thanks to peoples using ad blockers, and you're going to starve homeless in the street then raped to death by other homeless

>>56408406
My ISP did block ads by default at the router level.
They got sued in name of net neutrality, because blocking ads is like censor content

>>56410769
Some city in southern america removed all billboards from public spaces, pretty much everyone liked it.

>>56411016
what is coindindind ditetiro

>>56411554
Edgy

>>56411645
It's an add-on that put what they called echoes (by default 3 parentheses) around jewish names. That is supposed to help you detect 'coincidences'. Google took it down due to racism or some reason like that.

>>56409870
Jesus fucking christ have ads gotten that bad in the ten years since I started using adblock?

Good riddance.

>>56410051
Just pose as a society or something
Like [Anonynews] SA or some shit

>>56410168
Dipshit, you advertise in a "viral media" approqch

Twitter, youtube, facebook are free.
Ironically supported by ads.

>>56410710
j00t? Is this you Hiroshima?

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>>56408379
>>56410189
>>56410236

Makes me wonder what people would do in some bullshit future if they made applications and extensions like adblock an illegal offense where you could get sued for "stealing" and "hindering revenue." Or websites had hooks where you didn't use there website period since it somehow just "know" if your running adblockers or not. I know that sounds inconceivable but it feels like this is the future we are heading towards. I see adblockers being an illegal criminal offense in the next 10 years if this shit keeps up.

>>56410466
Your ISP tells you that there TOS have changed. Now you can't sue them for that purpose. Time to get a new ISP?

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>>56411597
>because blocking ads is like censoring content
corporate kek
Freedom of choice is not an infringement on freedom of speech.
It's funny how advertisers are the ones to enforce censorship, i.e. the reason they blur out cock and balls on Naked and Afraid or won't say fuck on Comedy Central, yet they use free speech and net neutrality as a defense for their incessant, unscrupulous predation.

>>56410233
That could actually be a really good business model. Replace ALL ads by your ads, making ridiculous amounts of money - obviously more than enough to sustain your entire business while offering cheap or even free internet to the users. On top of that, the ads will be more bearable to the users if you curate the list.

>>56410051
Register as a small business

>>56410168
>who's
You're right, it is pointless buying up ads online.
Instead you should be working to make it so that search results related to your products will rank higher, because people don't buy based on online adverts, they buy based on what Google shits out on the first page.

>>56408379
should you shitpost on this wonderful board?