/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Are there any good around ear bluetooth headphones on the market?

Where can I get a cord/cable?
Got this Japanese JVC's but the cable twisted, looks like I can solder a new one. Will send pics if needed.

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Congrats on another shit OP

>>56378369
>>56378421
kys

The Sony MDR-Z1R announced a while back has MSRP set at 2300.

Already mentioned before, Sennheiser has announced the 559/579/599 open backed models and the 569 closed back.

Audeze has launched its first series of in-ear headphones.
>The three new models range in price from just $399 to $2,495. All models include Audeze’s Lightning cable for Apple’s iPhone/iPod/iPad.

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>>56378620
What did they mean by this?

>>56378620
The new Audezes are open backed.
>iSine10
400
>iSine20
600
>LCDi3
2500

>>56378696
Not very in-the-ear, is it? The driver used is quite large.

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>>56374308

>>56377966
They aren't very comfortable for long periods.

>>56378282
Holy shit kys..
At least wait for the bump limit you stupid faggot

>>56379304
>At least wait for the bump limit
Are you stupid or trying to pick a fight? I'm going to guess it is both.

>>56379459
It's just a shitposter, Anon, ignoring them is more effective.

>Budget
400 usd
>Location
Mootxico
>Source
Fiio E10K
>Preferred type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Very comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral o v-shaped
>Past headphones
None

How's the Beyerdynamic DT770? Thinking of buying that one, or should I get something else of similar price and specs/comfort?

>>56379591
Not bad bad if you are looking for a closed-back and v-shapped signature headphone.

>tfw I used to have a pair of modded Senn HD580s (same driver as HD600), a little dot tube amp with matched NOS tubes, and a dedicated DAC with a tube pre-amp capable of 24b/96KhZ, plus a bunch of other cans

Now the best I have is some V-Moda M80s and a Fiio E6

Financial problems suck. And I only got a fraction of what they were worth at a pawn shop

>fml

What's a good dac/amp all-in-one for not much money?

>>56379519
cartel must be doing really great

>>56379591

The DT 770 is good but the biggest problem is the ATH M50X. I know people willl call meme, but just listen to both at a store and thank me later.

>>56379519

Don't make it too hard, HD600 or 650. You will have to chug out HD800 money if you want to hear a difference, and even then most people prefer the HD600 anyway. HD800 sounds too clean.

>>56379622
>>56379690
Thanks

>>56378282
>wireless is frowned upon
But why?

>>56379875
This is an audiophile thread

>>56379875

Due to quantum tunneling bluetooth can't go past 256kbps.

If the bluetooth bandwidth was 10 Ghz only then could FLAC files be played without loss in quality.

How is the ath m50x for jazzy rap (think Nuajbes and Cyne) and punk rock?

>>56379945
What's wrong with 256kbps mp3? I just use mine for exercising and even then they don't sound much worse than my vmoda remotes, but they were a fraction of the cost so I'm pretty sure it's not because it's Bluetooth, lol.

>$10 Bluetooth earphones sounding shockingly close to my 60 dollar vmoda remotes
Just weaker mids on the Bluetooth earphones.

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>$40
>US of A
>Laptop/Phone
>Earbuds
>Closed
>Decently comfy
>neutral
>SHP9500s

>>56379875
Fuck you we're elite Audiophiles here and we don't like you're kind around here!
Wireless? Pfft, go and stick your head in a toilet with a speaker on the outside, but not a Bluetooth speaker because that'll sound even worse!

Kill yourself degenerate, audio quality is the only useful metric for comparing headphones and WIRELESS IS SHIT AND YOU'RE SHIT.

This thread is for appreciating the best Audiophile technology!

>>56379961
They're pretty good all-arounders since they are studio monitors, but they're kind of on the bassy side. Not bloated or anything just kind of warm and slow. They would be perfect for jazz or rap, but instrumentals might get a little fuzzy with punk.

Overall great cans though. The Shure SRH-840 sounds very similar but a little more flat, which can be good or bad, depending on how much color you want in the sound.

>>56380006

The problem is that the treble sounds awful and you are not getting full bass frequencies. It will strain your ears more if you have headphones that cost $100 or over. Don't believe me? Download a bunch of FLAC files, listen to them for a week and say that again.

http://en-us.sennheiser.com/audiophile-headphones-wireless-digital-over-ear-rs-195

>The only acceptable pair of wireless headphones.

>>56380060
I like the way you're trying to be, like, sarcastic or something, but like, nothing you said is wrong, my dude

>>56380035
The arrow just makes it more confusing.

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>>56380095
I don't listen to flac though, I listen to 256kbps or 320kbps mp3 because my phone only has 32GB storage and it sounds fine for me. I'm not too fussed over the sound quality, I won't cry when I listen to good sounding music like the retarded audiophiles ITT.

I've tried Flac with my vmoda remotes, and the difference in sound quality isn't worth the file size difference between that and 256kbps mp3.

>Budget
100$ on amazon

>Location
Colorado USA

>Source
PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized. I already got a pear of earphones for portability

>Open or closed
Prefer closed

>Comfort level
I'm gonna be wearing them for hours at a time so would prefer them to be pretty comfortable

>Past headphones
I'm using some Shure se112s right now and they sound pretty alright to me. I don't know though cause I haven't tried on a pair of actually nice headphones for a while

I listen to a bunch of stuff. Pretty much everything except edm, classical, and country. Mostly rap and British punk rock lately. I'm pretty fond of Nujabes and Kanye

>>56380188

Dude I'm just an average joe who doesn't cry when listening to music but you have to be literally 13 years old if you can't distinguish a FLAC from 256k MP3.

No point in arguing this point because everyone who actually knows stuff about music and sound will be able to trump you day and night. Better just accept the facts and start paying attention to sound quality, unless you want to appear like an ignorant pleb in every thread you go to.

>>56380035
>Budget
$40
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop/Phone
>Type
Earbuds
>Open or Closed
Closed
>Comfiness Level
Decently comfy
>Dynamics
Neutral
>Previous Headphones
SHP9500

>>56380197

Coming from someone with Shure SE215s you'll be better off getting those instead of $100 headphones which won't sound as nice but take up so much space while providing less sound isolation.

Just saying I wish I had skipped $100 headphones entirely and just gotten those earbuds earlier.

>>56380258
Considering bumping up my budget a little bit for ath-m50x. You think those would work for me?

>>56380310

Absolutely. You'll have to spend HD600 money if you want to go up from there.

>>56380343
God damn that's a lot of money. Thanks for the help dude. One more question, would I be able to hear a difference between flac files and whatever's on spotify?

>>56380197
>Colorado
>mynigga.jpg

https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B000ULAP4U/ref=dp_olp_refurbished?ie=UTF8&condition=refurbished

Plus velour pads if you can scrape up another $20 or so. More comfy and keeps your ears warm

>>56380241
Never said I can't distinguish it, I just
>the difference in sound quality isn't worth the file size difference

Don't forget my primary mp3 player is a 32GB phone, also mentioned in that post, so file size is an important factor too.

>>56380382

Yes if you pay attention. But you need to pay attention. Afterwards you can hear the difference if you train your ear.

>>56380411
So pretty much placebo then?

Bunch of poverty tier motherfuckers in this thread.

You can't even spend $200 on a pair of good headphones, or for an amp/dac?

Maybe you should be spending your $50 on getting some nice resumes or something printed or a new dress shirt because you're fucking your life up right now.

>>56380444

That's not what he said at all dipshit.

There is a clear audible difference when playing a .flac file over playing a track on Spotify. IF the recording is well mastered, IF you have decent transducers, and in some cases IF you have an external DAC / amp.

It will only ever sound as good as your very weakest link. Don't expect to A/B test flac vs 256kbps mp3 on a set of Apple earbuds or out of a shitty laptop and notice an amazing improvement.

>>56380444

No. I just said there is a difference. You can hear it afterwards. You can hear more details but if you're not paying attention you might not notice that they are there. But after you've hear them you will notice they are absent from compressed files.

>>56380444
Not him, but no, it's not placebo, but the difference is negligible. Honestly, some well encoded AAC at 320kbps will sound nearly identical as a lossless counterpart. Unless you have super revealing equipment. Even 256kbps sounds decent, if it's encoded properly. It depends on how much time you spend with lossless and what equipment you have. If you're not used to it, you won't hear a difference, but once you go FLAC you never go back.

>Budget
$150
>Location
usa
>Source
pc
>Preferred type of headphone
over
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
pretty comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
netrual
>Past headphones
earbuds/gayming headsets

>>56380464
>1/10
Made me respond

>>56380534
I don't think anyone has blind A/B distinguished 384kbps AAC from FLAC in a controlled study that I could find. That seems to be the current threshold of transparency.

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>>56380534
>>56380518
>>56380508
>audiophiles

>>56380597
I don't think there is a difference, not from what any human ear could hear (trained or untrained). Having an original lossless format just ensures that you aren't missing any points of data. I think most audiophiles just have OCD, and want everything to be there whether they can hear it or not.

>>56380567

DT 990.

>>56380444
Kek

>>56380643

What are you doing in an audiphile thread?

Oh, of course, you had beats STUDIO headphones and YOU can't hear the difference between a compressed and uncompressed file. Good for you buddy, it's not like EVERY SINGLE PERSON who KNOWS shit about music disagrees with you.

>>56380670
That's not the same as AAC and you didn't mention the quality of the MP3

>>56380661
>I think most audiophiles just have OCD, and want everything to be there whether they can hear it or not.
Holy shit this is it. Everything makes so much more sense now

>>56380687
>DT990
>neutral

>>56380567
DT880, but they might be more expensive in US.
AKGs are good and probably cheaper in US, too.

>>56380661
>>56380717
Pretty much, audiophiles are some of the biggest autists out there and are willing to spend lots of money to make their nipples hard when they listen to Beck on vinyl.

>>56380707
Where are you getting this information from? I'm using rock zircons because unlike you stupid audiophiles wasting 10k on your shit dacs and amps, pretending flac sounds SOOOOOOOOO much better, unlike you stupid audiophiles I have a gf and a life :^)

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So I posted in the previous thread, and I got 2 replies telling me to get Beyerdynamic DT 770, so I'll post once again to get more opinions before buying it.

Budget
300$
>Location
shithole European country
>Source
desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
full size
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
don't care
>Preferred tonal balance
bass (I mostly listen to dnb)
>Past headphones
Audio Technica AD700

>>56380382
Spoify may not use the same files for reference as your FLAC files. That is, Spotify may receive different audio than what was on the CD or online.

Recognizing sound quality has a limited relation to the gear you own and have used. It is a learned trait.

The difference between lossless PCM audio and lossy coding isn't related to what the audio transducer, the headphone or speaker, does. Lossy audio is built around analyzing audio and making "judicious" approximations using local time-frequency information.
The encoder will strip out based a model of how the brain interprets and discard sound information.

Your speakers are not nearly that smart, those lossy errors of truncation and resampling are very contrary to any understanding of headphone physics. They make a very different series of mistakes.

>>56380711
AAC and MP3 coding lack generality even at the same bitrate.

>>56380801
M4A apparently...

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>>56380779

Don't overplay it.

>>56380853
>AAC and MP3 coding lack generality even at the same bitrate.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about or don't understand what "generality" means

>>56380833
Just buy the DT770 already. They check all your requirements, are extremely comfortable and will save you money, since they go for about 130-150€ on Amazon.
The only negative thing about them is the stupid coiled cable, but you can either spend more one the premiums or how they are called or mod them.
Get the 250 Ohm version for Desktop, 80 Ohm is only good for laptops and smartphones because of the less powerful source. Avoid the 16 Ohm version.

>>56380918
Most phones and things can only handle up to 32ohms. Even if he got the 80ohm, he might want a Fiio E11 or something

>>56380873
ROCK Zircons are breddy gud, especially for the money you pay, i have them, too. Zircons shit on many over-priced IEMs like Bose or Beats.
I honestly see no point in investing 100€ in my IEMs i use for on the go and gym.
At home i have my DT990's.

>>56380966
I think 80 Ohm should be fine, 250 is certainly too much. My S4 can hardly drive my DT990, but it's still not completely shit, so 80 Ohm shouldn't give you any problems.

>>56380907
The implementation of lossy coding is very variable even if they adhere to mp3 and AAC standards. Codecs may undergo significant overhaul over the years so that results in perceptual examination will steadily improve over time. Early 90s mp3 sounds quite different from the latest development by LAME, even at same bitrate.

>>56380966
>can only handle up to 32ohms.
That's a bit backwards. Quite a few devices are unstable into low impedance loads, particularly below 32 ohms. High impedance versions are easier loads for all reasons besides sensitivity.

>>56380927
The word ‘cuck’ gets used a lot lately.

Many people have taken a try at describing the phenomenon, but I think all existing descriptions of ‘cuck’ miss why the point and the power of the word.

They miss why ‘cuck’ is not merely a modern ‘faggot’ or ‘hippy,’ but actually something much stronger. The perfect description for a modern epidemic that is destroying our nations, our societies, and our souls.

The term cuckold itself comes from the cuckoo bird: a bird that is a brood parasite. The cuckoo bird lays its eggs in the nests of other birds. Once the egg hatches, the young cuckoo will swiftly destroy or eat most or all of the nest’s original inhabitants. The parents of these murdered young who come back to a nest with a baby cuckoo in it will ignore the carnage, and dutifully raise the young cuckoo as if it is their own chick. Indeed, because cuckoos are often much larger than the birds whose nests they parasitize, it is possible for cucked parents to literally starve as they struggle to provide for the murderer of their real children.

In this context, it is easy to see just why ‘cuck’ is absolutely appropriate to a certain breed of today’s politicians. A cuck politician is a cuck when he or she takes pleasure in his nation’s people being cheated on. He gains political standing and a sense of moral superiority when he allows poor little cuckoo birds to roost in his nations cities and towns. A cuck politician is also a cuck because he knows that if he were ever to act against the cuckoos in his midst, he would invite disaster. Riots, terrorism, beheadings… And, of course, the approbation of his fellows cucks.

And our nations ARE run by cucks. Let there be no doubt about it. Cucks in both senses of the word: they refuse to recognize their enemy, and they can great pleasure in siding with him against their own countrymen.

Cuckoldry has become an entire mindset. The modern cuck is not a cuck only in one circumstance, but in ALL circumstances.

>>56381084
>apple
What? She uses an lg g3, lol

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PSA: DON'T BUY THIS PIECE OF SHIT!

So I bought a pair of Fidelio X2s and I've been loving them.

At one point I noticed the volume is too low and I went out to buy a Fiio E10K instead of ordering one because I didn't want to wait and they didn't have any E10Ks left so I bought an E11K(Kilimanjaro) and surprise surprise I fucked up.

When there aren't any mid level sounds or when there are barely any mid level sounds OR WHEN THERE'S NOTHING PLAYING you can hear a slight buzzing noise in the headphones which drives me fucking CRAZY.

So I did a little bit of googling and apparently I'm not the only person with these issues, if I would've done some research before buying it I wouldn't have a problem now.

I guess I'll save up some money and get a Scarlett Solo.

>>56381140
>Scarlett Solo
Just curious, why no O2?

Does anybody know where I can listen to a good quality song and then compare it to a YouTube video or something? I'd look up one myself, but I wouldn't know where to find the best, BEST quality.

>>56381140
>Audiophile got rekt
Cry more retard, you're only making me laugh harder :^)

>>56381216
Thanks, friend.

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>>56381211

>>56381140
I have one of these. It's okay as a portable amp. The sound quality is good. The amp is pretty low noise, but there can be some noise while turning the volume wheel.

Also, you might just have created a ground loop somehow. Check on battery power and with the microphone disconnected if applicable.

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MDR-Z1R - $2300
desu MDR-1000X is much more interesting.

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tfw wireless audio codecs are near 1Mbps

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Whatever happened to these? I used to have some XB700s but got rid of them. I wanted to buy another pair and noticed that they're discontinued and any that you can find cost way too much money.

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>>56381376
Oh how fucking stupid I feel right now...................words cannot describe it......... do I just delete that post.

>>56381449
discontinued. good luck finding XB700 or XB1000 again for a reasonable price.

>>56381470
>5000kbit
>audio
but why

>>56381180
Well I'm not buying either right now because it appears the 11k is just fine, it's just me that's fucking stupid.

The thing I was hearing was a ground loop. >>56381376 pointed it out.

But if I had to buy something new I'd probably still go with the Scarlett because I'd like to plug my XLR mic in it.

Hm. My case's front audio port has constant static when I plug into it, but the rear one is fine. Is it fucked or does it need cleaning or what? My headphones just arrived today.

>>56381470
The human ear can't see more than 24kbps

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Where can I get some gucci 3.5mm cables for my headphones? I don't trust the aliexpress chinks

>>56381527
Didn't know you could use it as such. Always thought scarletts were pure audio interfaces for mics. Now that i know i might get one as well when i buy a XLR mic.
Do you think a solo can power both XLR mic and >250 Ohm headphones?

>>56381542
Since the front ports are connected to the motherboard going near other components, electrical noise / static is very common. Just plug directly to the motherboard (in the back)

>>56381602
Alright, thanks. Cord's just kinda short otherwise I wouldn't care.

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>>56378282
I don't know what headphones to buy.

>>56381595
I honestly couldn't tell you. I found some thread on leddit about it.

>I have the Scarlett Solo, and also the same headphones as you. No distortion or lack of volume for me, never need to turn it up past half. Though I have heard suggestions to get an amp as well, it doesn't seem necessary to me.

But there's also shit like:

>So I own the dt880's pros 250 ohms and and I use the ha204 headphone amp to power them and a few other headphones I own the akg 712's the ath m50x's and the dt880 pros. A headphone amp really does make a difference in what frequencies get driven especially the low end. Although the dt880's are ridiculously flat you will need an amp to make use of them.

So really it's up to you how loud you like your music and how much you buy into the audiophile meme.

But if it's just up to power most XLR mics either use phantom power or they have a USB to plug into your computer for power.

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>>56381644
>doing that to HD800S

>Budget
Preferably around $100 but I can spend more.
>Location
US
>Source
Mainly desktop. Occasionally my phone.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized (I need new earbuds too though)
>Open or closed
Surprise me
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Even or slightly bassy

>>56381667
Well, in this case i better don't try my luck and buy an O2 some time and the BM800+Neewer meme like the good goy i am.

>>56381710
XPT100

>>56381644
WE ARE BORG. RESISTANCE IF FUTILE. YOU WILL BE AUDIOPHILED.

How can I download songs from Chiru? I'm no good with computers

>>56381714
A very similar product that's named something else but is exactly the same chinese shit(BM800) is on the way to me right now.

And I'm gonna be plugging that into my computer's motherboard and see what it sounds like.

But unless you listen to headphones so loud to the point that you go to sleep with hearing damage every night(ringing noise) you're probably fine with a Scarlett Solo.

>>56378282
You really like to be shitposted.

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>>56381830

>Budget
$150(Can go as high as $200 if need be)
>Location
US
>Source
Phone/Handhelds/PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
As comfy as possible
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
whatever I could get my hands on

>>56381764
Probably a NW700 or 800, there's a shit ton of BM's and copies of the BM floating around.
I usually don't listen to (very) loud music, i want to keep my hearing for a few more years. My main motivation for getting anything for my headphones is to improve sound quality.
Well.. maybe i'll try the solo or wait until i get a new PC next month or in Q1 next year when Kaby Lake CPUs are available, onboard sound on a good mobo should be enough.

>>56381851
I would wait for Zen desu senpai

Intel CPUs have been advancing by 10% since Sandy Bridge. I'm still on Sandy Bridge and I'm not bottlnecking a 970. My friend has a 2500k running with a 980ti and he's not bottlenecking.

Wait and see what Zen has to offer before firing out on Intel because they haven't been advancing almost at all in the past few years. Also this is what I bought https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01587Y4QA

my fucking grados just broke, what should i get for around 100?

Hey /g/uys thinking about getting the schiit stack and dt770s.

Seems like a cheap and effective setup. I currently use computer audio and takstar hi2050s (which I guess are supposed to be a dt880 clone, and they're pretty good for what they are).

Closed and comfort are a big priority for me.

I guess what I'm asking is, are there any red flags with this setup. I know the amp/dac might seem kind of stupid considering the two combined are over half the budget, but I figure they will be an investment and might come in handy should I decide to get some better hard to drive headphones somewhere down the line.

>>56381139
lewd.

>>56381889
My problem with AMD is the huge power consumption and low single core performance compared to Intel.
But i really hope AMD will make a comeback, some solid competition wouldn't hurt the market.

>2500k running with a 980ti
i7-870 + GTX460 OC :^)
I should really get some upgrades, a new PC is objectively unnecessary, but mine is kind of broken and if it's more than the graphics card i might get a new one considering the age.

>>56381905
>red flags with this setup
the red flag is buying into a dynamic setup.

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>>56380990
>uses DT990
>likes Rock zircons

m8 have you tried knowledge zenith stuff?

>>56381970
I have a BAD 2600k which only goes up to 4.2ghz and a decent 970 that I can overclock enough to make it better than an RX480.

And I'm sticking to 1080p so I don't really feel a need to upgrade.

i'll eventually upgrade when they make it possible for me to walk in VR(not teleport around) and VR porn becomes amazing.

But yeah fingers crossed for Zen being good. Competition is good. I'm also curious what your BM800 will sound like compared to my mic.

>>56382034
As a matter of fact i have KZ ED9's and maybe will buy the bambus ones if they brake or i get bored with them.

>>56382041
>I'm sticking to 1080p
Same for me. 1080p is comfy enough for the few hours i play in my free time. If i can fix my PC with a new GPU i won't upgrade it until it completely dies.
I'll probably get a 950, don't really feel like spending that much for a 6 year old PC and i need a rather compact card.
I'm curious about the BM800, too. It gets praised into heaven wherever you look. I'll see how it is compared to my AT2020.

>Budget
$150-200
>Location
US
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Very comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Not sure
>Past headphones
gaming headsets and earbuds

Using them for about 70% gaming 30% music

>>56382168
What kind of music do you like?
For gaming open headphones are usually better because of the bigger soundstage = better localization of footsteps.

>>56382168
>Doesn't matter
Yes it does

>>56381449
>>56381467

Sony XB series, heh good times. I still have the XB1000 all sealed up somewhere since I've replaced it with a DT880 a few years back.

I wouldn't recommend it to anyone on sound quality alone, but if you're looking for comfort at the sacrifice of looking like you have 2 tyres clamped onto your head then yes I'd recommend it because they're one of the headphones with the biggest, softest and most comfortable foam pads I've used.

>>56382128
WHY DID YOU BUY A BM800 IF YOU HAVE AN AT2020!?!?

Also your reckon the thing I posted is the same?

Stupid Audiophile

>>56382168
DT880's were widely used by FPS gamers back in the day, but they leak sound both ways so there's that.
You could also try DT770 for more isolation since it's closed whereas on the 880 it's semi-open.

>>56382273
Well.. i bought it because 1. im curious about its quality and 2. depending on the result i'll sell one.


>Also your reckon the thing I posted is the same?
Soryy, can't follow you. It's 3:10AM here and i'm half asleep already.

>>56382354
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01587Y4QA

this. Is this the BM800?

based CET bro

>>56382197
I don't really have like a set genre I like. I listen to mostly pop, rock, jazzy songs, and other sub genres.

>>56382205
I guess I'm not sure what I'm looking for, but It seems like open would be better for gaming but I don't want it to be super loud and wake up room mates late at night.

>>56382330
I'll take a look at these, thanks.

>>56382464
>I don't want it to be super loud and wake up room mates late at night.
You should go closed then.

>>56382391
No, this looks like a modded BM700 clone. I recommend you buy it at Ali or GearBest, it's cheaper, you won't get a clone, but you have to wait your merry time.
http://www.gearbest.com/speakers/pp_193557.html
http://de.aliexpress.com/item/BM-800-Condenser-Sound-Uni-directionalcondenser-Recording-Microphone-with-Shock-Mount-for-Radio-Braodcasting-Sound-Studio/32461235648.html

>>56382212
They're not exactly known for sound quality, but they are super comfortable. And with some amping and a little EQ, they can make your skull rattle. More of a novelty can, but I enjoyed my 700s as such.

>>56382498
How the fuck can I find a bm-800 on amazon. I want proper delivery... aka not from china.

>Budget
100 usd
>Location
freedomland
>Source
laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
Over but i can work with an iem
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
bassy or v-shaped
>Past headphones
None

I am going to college soon and im going to live in a noisy dorm, i need headphones that have either good noise canceling or good noise isolation

Audeze owners confirmed for autists

>>56382619
UK, right? The one below looks like a normal BM800, but i really don't have any experience with chink shit from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/MyArmor-Professional-Condenser-Microphone-Recording/dp/B0146A336M/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1472779813&sr=8-3&keywords=bm+800
I have made good experience with Ali and GearBest, maybe you should try it.

>>56382731
>>56382619
Well, i call it a day, but i'll be lurking here again if you have some questions about the BM or chink shit or whatever.

>>56382711
What?

>>56380241
>you have to be literally 13 years old if you can't distinguish a FLAC from 256k MP3.
you're a fucking dumbass. show consistent and perfect foobar abx results between flac and v0/v2 mp3.

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>>56382814

>>56380241
>>56382844
To be fair a 13 years old should have a more accute hearing than most of us adults

>>56382896
you say that like there's any relevant information above 16khz to differentiate the two in your shitty music anyway

>>56382923
>implying i'm saying that or that i'm even the same person you are talking too
Damn, you sound mad, anyway, i said that because it's true, kids have very accute hearing, couldn't care less about your data-lacking opinions on what is relevant or not in the spectrum of recordings.

>>56383013
what i'm saying is there's nothing up in those frequencies to pick out differences between the two recordings so having a better hearing range is meaningless in the context.

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https://www.audeze.com/products/sine-series/isine20
>planar IEM
>xbox hueg
lolwat

>>56383013
Well I can hear up to about 19khz and the only thing up there are harmonics and pain if it's loud.

>>56383252
honestly anything over 16khz should be inaudible.

>>56383257
It mostly is and the only time I notice it is when it's annoying. An exaggerated example is "the mosquito" tone

chinked, fuck you op

Anyone else only able to use headphones in 30 minute intervals? Any longer and I start to feel really clammy and hot and uncomfortable and I have to take them off for 10 minutes to "refresh".

I think I need to give up on headphones and join the speaker master race.

>>56383212
Looks interesting. But we all know how bad audeze reps are, and servicing.

>>56383714
Try different pads, velour and vegan pads tend to build less heat and are pretty breathable

>>56383714
>tfw sometimes I feel hot and clammy when wearing headphones during the Summer
Such an uncomfortable feel.

>>56383766
I've investigated that option, but apparently the default HD600 pads are a strong requirement and trying any different material pads will radically muck up the sound of the headphones.

>>56383787
>HD600

I-I'm so sorry, anon

>>56383858
I know, I should've gotten the HD650 like a true patrician, but I still rest easy knowing I have the second best dynamics in existence.

>>56383870
4th now that utopia/elear exist

>>56383714
>>>/treadmill/

>>56380095
What did he mean by this?

Don't fall for the circumaural isolation meme
I've missed 30 phone calls with them on even with nothing playing

>>56383870

>Second best dynamics.

The HD800S is obviously the best dynamic in the Sennheiser line, but there may be others like the Utopia that challenge it.

Well fuck me.

I picked up a pair of T50RP from a local store today on a whim and A/B'd them with my AKG K702s.

Found I much preferred the T50RP's overall. Returning the AKG's tomorrow while I still can.

The 702's had some really excellent characteristics, but these Fostex are just like, the right sound. No equalization desired. I'll have to look into the modding resources out there now. Fug.

>>56384139
>Utopia
Which is then swiftly usurped by the $200 SR-207

estat is the IPS of headphone world

Does the mi band 2 cause burns?

>>56384178
estat is the TN of the headphone world

>fast response times
>le estat 'speed' meme
>shit viewing angles
>needs a perfect seal

>>56384230
No, the analogy works based on the 2008-11 monitor market where all the IPS users were trying to explain the benefits on a technical aspect but all you entry level gaymer gear faggots wouldn't listen and chose to remain in your comfortable TN/Dynamic walled garden.

>>56384370
your analogy is terrible

>>56384370

Not that anon, but I'm really not convinced electrostats are the end all be all. SR-207's are more like $800 when you factor in the specific amp they require.

And even then, I still think I would rather have a pair of LCD-2.

>>56384178
>>56384454
>SR-207
Discontinued and not in production. Nearest substitute is the SR-L300


>>56383013
The frequency limit isn't a concern, the cutoff is not quite a brickwall anyway. There are other issues you normally look for, quantization error, window artifacts, even clipping and level from resampling.
>An aside on older ears
There are many more issues that occur with hearing and aging. If the stopband corner frequency sliding down was the only thing that happened, hearing loss wouldn't be such a problem. That can also apply to the increased hearing threshold amplitude.
Things like pitch and tone can't hold up against critical band widening. Cochlea hairs will also shifted around in frequency slightly over the years. Muscles in the middle ear, stapedius and tensor timpani, lose their ability to limit/compress the input sound vibration level. That actually serves to accelerate the hearing loss and leads to the result that damaged ears can be more sensitive to noise than a healthy one.

>>56380241
That's some quality bait there. Replying so newfags won't actually believe it.

So my onboard audio died today
Looking for a Dac/Amp, need RCAs outputs to send signal to a pair of jbl 305 also need to power SHP9500

Any recomendations?
Got 120usd budget

>>56384991
SMSL M3
Micca Origen+
FiiO E10k

>>56385059
Thanks m8
SMSL M3 is it, mainly because it has rca and digital out

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Stupid question here. I fell for meme headphones, the Meze 99 Classics, and I'm trying to EQ them cause they fall flat on the midbass and the low bass is muddy.

This was on their website for the headphones which I'm almost certain is exaggerated, but how do I use musicbee's 15 band eq?

are there any full-sized headphones under $100 (preferably $50) with reasonable ANC?
i'm only looking to use them for blocking out sound so sound quality is not a must

>>56385089
I mean they all have stereo out, and 3.5mm -> RCA is a trivial and common conversion.

>>56385225
http://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=10010

>>56385225
>>56385460
Also this for a $50 option: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01F3DKK7Q/ref=psdc_12097479011_t3_B01G52IS5K

I don't know if one has better ANC than the other, really, but the reviews look decent in that regard

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>>56385177

>>56380343
>You'll have to spend HD600 money if you want to go up from there.
uhh, no. the $15 th-02 and chink IEMs sound better than the m50.

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>>56385177
>>56385667
Please someone tell me what I'm doing wrong or right ;_;

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MezeClassic99.pdf

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>>56381449
>people walk around in public wearing these

>Budget
250 usd
>Location
freedomland
>Source
Audio engine D1
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
very comfy
>Past headphones
HD 598

>>56386213
Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7

>>56386213
NAD VISO HP50

>>56378282
What's wrong with headsets? Hyperx cloud is really nice, isn't it?

SE215s came in today. Ordered them a month ago for $70 new, they went on backorder, meant to cancel, forgot about them.
I have Monk+ on the way and some beater IEMS, but I figured whatever, I'll try these out. The foam tips compress easily and taking the midsized ones off squished them pretty bad, looked pretty ugly. Wasn't comfortable at first with the small ones but damn they are snug now.

I plugged them in with my JDS C5D and am fairly satisfied, but...

Are they sweatproof/resistant, so I can use them in the gym?

Are they worth the $73 when Piston 3s are like $20?

>>56386444
Hyper X Cloud (not the 2) is the least worst of a bad bunch.

>Budget
~50€
>Location
netherlands
>Source
my pc
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
just comfy
>Past headphones
hd 681

>Budget
Around $50 max.
>Location
EU
>Source
iPhone + Laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Isolation
Should have good isolation
>Comfort level
Good if possible as I use them for hours
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or bassy, should be fun to listen to
>Past headphones
apple buds (not IEM)

HM5 just arrived
first proper headphone
what do i listen to to try it out?
is burn in a meme?
is it supposed to clamp my head this much? i feel like im in a vice

Just received my new AKG 702, coming from a 280 Sennheiser Pro, the bass seems very weak but my ears have physically never been so free.
I guess I just need to give it time, I remember not loving my 280 at first.

>Budget
40€
>Location
Germany
>Source
phone
>Preferred type of headphone
on ear/over ear
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
medium and up
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
none

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>>56387666
Welcome to the club! K702 is more neutral compared with your previous headphone, then it might require quite a long time. Have fun discovering new sounds in your tracks!

Complete beginner when it comes to headphones. I listen to music sporadically but sometimes on the bus or at the gym. I'd also use them for watching movies on my computer.

>Budget
100€

>Location
EU

>Source
Laptop/Phone

>Open or closed
Closed. I have a noisy way to school and there's also a kindergarten close to my apartment.

>Comfort level
Maximum. My ears hurt easily

I'm getting the k612pro's (slim chance I get the dt990 32ohm) and I've been doing to research on amps and I'm trying to decide if I should get the bravo v2, Vali or Vali 2. Any advice/opinions?

>>56388933
Solid state only

>>56385958
>Please someone tell me what I'm doing wrong
you're not using a parametric equalizer

>>56387601

Burn in might be a meme. It might affect some phones more than others.

At any rate, I suggest "burning in" by just listening to them.

>Budget
~1000 SEK (about $120)
>Location
sweden
>Source
Z3 cellphone. mainly Spotify and the occasional flac album on my pc
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM, but I wouldn't mind on-ear or bigger if it's something that can be worn in public without looking like a complete tool
>Open or closed
closed

>>56389336
looking at other posts I realize my small shit country is too small.
EU and 100€ is easier I guess.

I have an iPod Video since launch, should I mod it or save the money and buy a Fiio X1?

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>>56388863

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>>56385975
>caring what people think about you in the street.

See. This is wear you go wrong. Why should you give a fuck what others think of you.

Are the classic Sony MDR-7506 still worth it?

>>56387861
Oh yeah for sure, I'm enjoying some old songs in ways I never did before, HD280 aren't even really bassy.
I'm honestly wondering if the real change isn't more because of the fact that they're open headphones, kind that I never had before rather than the headphones themselves.

By the way, is it normal for me to almost double my computer's volume after getting this AKG702?
I don't want to hurt my ears because of the headphone transition, I specifically bought open headphones because I was afraid of slowly going deaf after wearing closed headphones 10 hours a day.

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Just got my DT880, they sound really good, but they have two marks of glue at its right side and I can't get rid of it without leaving a fucking tiny mark. Fuck my life.

Also, the O2 will arrive in a week or so, what other meme do I need to complete my setup? I'm already using a CreAtive t6060 as an amplifier and it already sounds good, so I guess I don't really need a DAC.
Should I buy a meme specific stands for the headphones?

>>56389905
That's barely visible at all, i bet that if you posted the same pic without the red mark and the text no one would ever notice.

are amps a meme?

>>56390102
No

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The best just got better

>>56389468
dt770 80ohm?

>>56390381
But the hd600 hasn't had a revision in a long long time m8

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>>56390062
>i bet that if you posted the same pic without the red mark and the text no one would ever notice

Where do you think we are?

>>56390062
Yeah, in the picture isn't noticeable at all, but it was the first thing I saw since I'm leftie and grabbed them with my left hand and turned them and fuck it.
I could remove some, but I wasn't expecting for a 166€ headphones to have that shit there.

>>56390589
;_;

>Budget
$100
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
MDR-V6

I'm looking to get into open back, most interested right now in the SHP9500 and HD598.

I'm trying to decide between Sennheiser PCX550 or Bose QC35 (or something similar). What do you think, /hpg/?
(comfort > sound > noise isolation/canceling)

>>56390922
>bose

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>>56390937
I get one for work for free around $300, but it has to be marketed as noise canceling. I don't know what's good and what's bad (those were the two everyone else was getting)

>>56389680
> I'm honestly wondering if the real change isn't more because of the fact that they're open headphones, kind that I never had before rather than the headphones themselves.
Open technology surely lends a help, it strongly reduces echoes inside your head and makes music sound more natural.

> By the way, is it normal for me to almost double my computer's volume after getting this AKG702?
yes it's normal, don't worry. K702 is less sensitive than the HD 280. Most people usually recommend an amp for them infact.

>>56390381
Tell me more

>>56389487
This. Just bee yourself

>>56385889
I heard the hd 668b was even better than the th 02 and its on sale.

>>56391014
>yes it's normal, don't worry. K702 is less sensitive than the HD 280. Most people usually recommend an amp for them infact.

Thanks.

Yeah I realised this too late like a dummie, my basic understanding of headphones and impedance was that 64Ω didn't need any amp which is obviously wrong.

I don't see much information about amps on the wiki, do you have any recommandation for a non mobile amp worth below 150 euros that I could use for my AKG702?

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>>56391066
New Sennheiser HD5x9 lineup coming later this month

>>56384991
You can get usb audio for .50$ on ali

>>56391174
But they already did 599, they can't go any higher

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>>56390922
I used to have pic related years ago. I bought Bose QC15 when they eventually stopped working and have had the Bose ones ever since (5+ years?). Sennheiser might have improved since then, but the nose cancelling of the Bose headphones were better imho.

Whatever you end up with it's going to be great when you're travelling etc.

>>56391143
>64Ω didn't need any amp which is obviously wrong.
64 Ω is the impedance. That impedance isn't high btw and what's more it doesn't affect the headphone being difficult to drive. What affects this is the headphpne's sensitivity, which is expressed either in dB/V or in dB/mW.

>>56391174
>>56390381
Those look gorgeous. If they don't measure like ass, I'm going to try it one out.

>>56391401
>What affects this is the headphpne's sensitivity, which is expressed either in dB/V or in dB/mW

Please stop making me feel dumb anon

>>56391478
Sorry. But well, as for a good amp to drive the K702, the E10K works great with it.

>>56391254
Thanks. Of the versions you had, which one do you think were more comfy? I'm going to be wearing these for an extended period of time

>>56391536
Thanks anon, I'll make sure to make a video of myself crying listening to music after I've finished my setup

>>56391599
The Sennheiser I had were on-ear, whereas the Bose are over-ear so they are not directly comparable in that manner. What I can say is that the Bose are very comfortable and I can wear them for hours on end.

Comparison of the two:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daryl-deino/sennheiser-pxc-550-vs-bos_b_11345172.html

>>56390456
it's called the hd650

someone got freq response graphs for JVC HARX700 and Superlux HD668B?

Got a budget of $250~ and I got Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro 80ohm, should I get the FiiO E10K or should I opt for something else?

>>56392116
The 650 is even warmer than the 600 and has worse vocals. The extra bass on them is also minuscule.

I'll pass my niggah. In fact I used to own both and already did.

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Why would someone get the E 10k over the SMSL M3 ? Bass boost ?

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>Budget
~$100, cheaper the better
>Location
USA
>Source
Amazon
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
one 1-10 at least a 7-8 i'm going to wear them in a 4 hour class
>Preferred tonal balance
unsure of what this means. phones are going to be used for editing in classroom, and likely used in my own work
>Past headphones
$50 takstars recommended on this board. i use them at home but a lot of sound escapes and they're a bit finnicky

>>56392414
Looking at the same pair of headphones, somebody pls respond

>>56392694
I used to own the o2 but 'downgraded' to the e10k because It sounds exactly the same with my headphones. SMSL doesnt have a great reputation when it comes to low end stuff and the e10k is highly regarded for what it is.

Bedsides that, the amp you posted requires a 1/4 jack and I don't want or need to use an ugly adapter.

>>56392633
>worse vocals
how are glary vocals 'better' exactly? upper midrange humps are no desirable and the 650 fixes this issue.

>>56392694
Forgot to add that I never use the bass boost on mine although it might be decent with incredibly flat headphones like 702's etc. If you have a use for the extra ports on that smsl then by all means go for it but it might not actually sound as good as the e10k. I'm not sure.

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>>56392855
>incredibly flat headphones like 702's

>>56392830
I couldn't give a shit about audio terminology in this case.

I owned both and the blatant difference was that the 600's vocals sounded better. The 600's are already 'veiled' (although that was mostly coined because all other headphones at the time were very bright.

The truth is that the 650 is actually the veiled one.

The 650 shouldn't even fucking exist. The only thing better about it is the appearance, and even then some would disagree with you.

>>56392915
They're amazing headphones but they have 0 weight behind them. It's not even debatable.

>>56392917
>superior technicalities and response across the board
>more agreeable warm tilt that all research is pointing to being preferable
even Etymotic are beginning to realize DF is shit.

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>>56392944
>superior technicalities
What?
>response across the board
Very similar, just a bit warm tilted. The warm tilt doesn't adhere to the Harman's target curves because it's just a broad midbass boost with the sub bass still lacking.

>even Etymotic are beginning to realize DF is shit.
Which is why they just introduced two new in-ears out of which the other one is very much DF equalized and other merely has a bass boost. How is this related?

>>56392944

Let me guess. You own the 650's and you will defend them because they're expensive headphones and they're very good. They're your headphones and there's nothing wrong with that. That's your preference.

I've owned both. I don't care what some faggot on the internet says or what a graph shows.

I bought the 650's thinking "wow if these sound like the 600's AND have a bit more bass they will be perfect!"

Turned out that the bass difference was minuscule and the sound signature didn't sound as nice overall. The vocals being the main culprit.

>>56393079
>What?
They fixed the fucking awful distortion of the HD600
>Very similar, just a bit warm tilted.
The upper midrange 'glare' is gone because the hump is smoothed out.
>Which is why they just introduced two new in-ears out of which the other one is very much DF equalized
the treble is toned town a little bit compared to the ER-4S, same as the XR, rightly so because so many people find the ER-4S to be too bright.

>>56393112
nobody cares about your terrible anecdotal evidence and uneducated opinion. go back to shitposting about how you totally did a double blind test with the o2 and e10k with your brother

>>56392917
> muh neutrality
> muh miraculous HD600
Is Goldenears the only website you've ever visited?
Nwavguy had a HD650, he even said that he prefered it over the K701 sound-wise, even though he admitted that the K701 is overall more accurate.

>>56393079
To be fair, the response after 12 kHz is usually just airy and not the culprit of any attributable piercing qualities to a headphone.

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>>56383787
>apparently the default HD600 pads are a strong requirement and trying any different material pads will radically muck up the sound of the headphones.
bull, I'm using silver velours from china I got for $9 a pair right now on my hd600, just as good as my old and used pads. better because they're still soft and pliable without feeling like total mush. just buy ones that look good, are not like $1, and have lots of orders.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261887216497

>>56393130
That's funny because anybody who's anybody in this game prefers the hd600.

I love how you feel so superior yet you own inferior headphones to me. God you're pathetic, all that research for nothing.

It's fucking hilarious.

>>56393276
>That's funny because anybody who's anybody in this game prefers the hd600.
such as? you hd600 shills are the laughing stock of the industry.

After a pair of noise cancelling buds for commute, but am poorfag. Are the Audio Technica Quietpoint ANC range any good?

>>56393136
I didn't mention neutrality and I didn't mention golden ears, nor do I visit faggot websites like that to justify my purchases.

God you sound desperate m8

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>>56393115
There's barely a difference in distortion and certainly one that would show one to be significantly better. It's not like the distortion is a problem on either one.

The upper midrange rise in the HD 650 is smaller in magnitude than in HD 600. I find the one on HD 600 more pleasant.

The ER-4S is near identical with the SR. Initial plots show 1-2 dB lower upper mid and treble response which is very small. I for one think the DF equalization is good thing for deep fit in-ears.

>>56393149
Never mentioned anything about that and yes. The response past 10 KHz should be taken as a grain of salt in measurements anyway. No coupler is accurate there.

>>56384171
that's strange because the stock t50rp response is very mid-centric. kind of hump-shaped with steep bass roll off and no elevated highs. if you like that you would probably like an hd600 or r70x, or other very warm/mid-y headphones. you might not like the sig overall with the k702 is much more extended on both ends than the stock fostex.

>>56393315
thanks for posting a measurement that shows the 650 as being superior, here i thought you'd still be cherrypicking for graphs that make the 600 look good

>>56393293
Buy a used pair of Bose qc15 or something?

>>56393286
"you hd600 shills are the laughing stock of the industry."

Maybe to some people who own $1000+ headphones. Even then most respect the hd600.

You aren't even a part of that group m8. Your headphones are slightly worse lmao.

Keep looking at those graphs you fucking wanker ;)

>>56393276
redditors aren't somebody

>>56385177
>>56385958
>>56385667
look up tyll's measurements, that one is a lie. it's mid-centric, needs boosting on both ends most likely. bass is probably loose from the design, can't really eq that out, though putting in the bass lift as a hump in the 60-100hz area might give a greater impression of impact which could lower the perception of looseness.

>>56393391
Genuinely never been there.

I owned both at the same time and the 600's sounded slightly better. I'm not a biased faggot like most of you lot. Most of you would state that 'x' is clearly better than 'x'.

That's not the case in this argument. The 600's and 650's are close. I'll say no more. Have a goodnight 650 owners.

hey headphone-o-anons

So pardon my ignorance and im going to commit a sin before even starting because i own some astro a40, back in the day i didnt have a hd tv, so i had my console go hdmi to my monitor, and figured id just have the optical out to these astros, and it worked a treat, good stuff.

Anyway for the pc, they just seem daft, its like a fuckign daisy chain of different devices and im left wondering whats actually doing the sound.

I have a decent Xfi titanium with all the dolby encoding....but if i go out and buy some decent headphones, they go straight in the little headphone jack right, and the dolby encoding is only for the optical out....so am i losing out? Thats the part thats kept me confused.

cheers

>>56393136
>Nwavguy had a HD650, he even said that he prefered it over the K701 sound-wise
Why would you care what NwAvGuy thinks about a pair of headphones?
>admitted that the K701 is overall more accurate.
It isn't.

>>56393357
What? I'm not here to prove anything, just discussing about the differences and showing it with a measurement. If you think the HD 650 is superior with the minuscule difference there is between the two, it's your preference. Plenty of people disagree.

>you'd still be cherrypicking for graphs that make the 600 look good
Yes, still posting those. Now do tell where do you see a HD 600 graph?

>>56393286
>expressing an opinion is now a form of shilling
k den
>laughing stock of the industry
Pretty sure that notion only exists in your head. The real laughing stock of audio industry is the "high end" audio market.

I own the HD 650 if that matters any. It's hilarious how this stock response argument always attracts shitposters.

>>56393506
Do you really use the Dolby signal processing?

>>56393545
Well...probably not. i mean....i probably couldnt tell, but i probably paid the dollar for it somewhere along the line... maybe im just frugal

>>56384171
Let me warn you that I bought the t50rps too and they were great but the right driver developed a slight hiss. I sent it back to amazon for a replacement and the exact same thing happened to it after around 30 days. Luckily I was still able to send it back.

Just a warning. Keep a hold of the box and bits etc just in case it happens to you. The quality control with those headphones are apparently terrible. I wanted to own them but I couldn't justify trying out a third pair. It was ridiculous.

>>56393545
Yea I agree, ''high-end'' seems to be a problem in audio
HD600 are high end enough though.

HM5 just arrived
first proper headphone
what do i listen to to try it out?
is burn in a meme?
is it supposed to clamp my head this much? i feel like im in a vice

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>>56393760
If it was unclear what I meant, I was referring to the extreme end of market where people pay anything for complete fluff just as long as it seemingly gives them some sort of fulfillment in their never-ending quest for "perfect sound". Cable risers, cable upgrades, little trinkets and tweaks all over the audio system, esoteric and very expensive designs mostly stuck in dinosaur era in terms of technology. All sorts of DSP is generally despised and an analog source or two is common.

>>56393276
>That's funny because anybody who's anybody in this game prefers the hd600.

Who?

>>56391254
I tried on a few and I went with the Sennheiser PXC550. I liked their overall design more, and the sound is better imo

>>56385225
do not cheap out on ANC, all you'll get is a coil whine simulator. those new sony ANC look promising and people are saying they're better than bose, but they're going to be $400. if you can't get that, get a bose qc-series.

>>56386501
piston 3 is more balanced where the se215 is heavily bass-boosted. piston 3 will sound less bassy, and a good deal more present in the upper mids and highs I would imagine.

>>56389513
very much so, still the best-value closed headphone imo.

>>56392830
>neutrality is the issue heavy roll-off is the answer
ok bud. the 650 is muddy and veiled, it takes the worst parts of the hd600 which can be ignored and amplifies them.

>>56390381
>big reflective piece on the grille which can't be removed.
looks like a 558 which people can't mod

>>56390788
get the 598/558, it's just better in every way

>>56393989
pretty much everyone who measures headphones on any serious level. the 650 was adored by placebos years ago just because it had a bigger number. people have steadily moved to the 600 for the past 5+ years. the 600 makes the flaws in the 650 obvious, since the 650 is just a coloration of the 600 and not for the better.

>>56394060
I asked "who" and you just restated the original comment I mentioned. Give me the names of these venerable audiophiles that prefer the 600 to the 650 .

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>>56393963
Reverse image search to that photograph resulted into exactly the kind of stuff I was referring to:

http://www.highendnovum.de/en/

>>56394021
Lucky. They seem pretty damn good.

>>56394134
I'm the guy who stated it in the first place and not the guy you just replied to.

We don't need to give names. Because we know. We all know lol.

Sounds like (heh) you fell for the 650 meme.

>>56394255
:^)

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>Budget
150€uro but I can go even higher
>Location
Czech
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
I think that I like v-shaped sound but neutral sound seems alright to me too
>Past headphones
Koss Porta pro for my walkman and phone
and
No Name Chink on pic. I like that springy head bridge. They sound really warm.

Also I plan to upgrade my computer. Should I also get PCI Sound card and Headphone Amp? Are there any recommendations?

>>56392754
h-help?

what are those sennheiser or audio technicas that are always recommended when they go on sale on amazon? they had a more slender design... can't remember the names, though. around $120 or something?

>>56394158
I particularly enjoy the segment where they talk about the golden ratio, but conveniently leave out any explanation how it's used in the product.

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This might be a stupid question but I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff. Is a Schiit Magni and Modi Gen 1 enough for T50RP mk3? I want to try out something new and different to me but I've read these things can be hard to power.

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Hello, I don't know if this is the best place to ask but I'm looking for a good microphone to use to talk in VoIP programs and sometimes (rarely) to record. I've always wanted to attach something to my headphones but I can't find anything good or worth the price so I thought that maybe I could buy a good desk microphone that I could keep under my monitor (it's attached to a VESA stand and there's plenty of space below).

So tl;dr, what would be a good microphone to buy with a max budget of 50€? The lower the better as long as it's not utter trash. Thanks

HM5 just arrived
first proper headphone
what do i listen to to try it out?
is burn in a meme?
is it supposed to clamp my head this much? i feel like im in a vice

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From Archimago's blog which I ventured to after forgetting it for a while. The analogue output of Creative Recon 3Di codec. Pretty shite.

>>56394876
Antlion modmic?

>>56395018
Burn-in is a meme. Most stiff clamps get more comfortable over time. Listen to music you like.

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>>56393963
>megadollar speaker setup
>no acoustic room treatment.
Every fucking time.

>>56394863
It should be enough, yes.

is the asus xonar with the built in amp a good alternative to an exteral one if i wanted to drive some 250ohm headphones out of my pc?

>>56395951
They don't have published specs for the headphone amp so it's not easy to know in advance. Probably best to get an external one so you can use it with any computer or source.

>>56396016
they claim 600ohms i think, but ill take your advice to heart, thanks

>>56396061
Impedance is mostly useful for determining damping factor, but it's only part of the equation for power. They need to tell you how much power can be delivered into different ohm loads, and then you need to know the impedance of the headphone and either the power sensitivity or the efficiency of the headphone. With that information you can determine the SPL at different amounts of power or voltage.

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Master Race club represent. You're only allowed in if your headphones have absolutely no bass at all.
Prove you're not of african american descent and join the club today. Post your headphones and ask for membership details

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>>56388933
>tube fags

So I'm planning to buy a SMSL M3, gonna use the digital to connect to my console, usb to pc, rca sending signal to my jbl 305 while also powering my headphones

Is it possible?

tldr: Can the smsl m3 send signal to my jbl 305 and headphones at the same time?

>>56396223
> The tubes really warm the flavor of this hot pocket. It feels more analog and opens the flavor spectrum by quite a lot.

Is there an inexpensive amp/DAC combo (or a combined amp/DAC) that's actually decent? I'm using an HD600 out of my laptop.

Schiit stack would cost me 250$+ after shipping.

>>56396257
The other SMSL stuff I've seen can do that so I assume it can. See if any of the reviews mention that.

>>56396335
FiiO E10k
Micca Origen+
SMSL M3

>>56396345
Thanks. Am I going to actually notice a significant difference with those, or is it le 1% audiophile-grade improvement?

Would the Audioengine D1 Dac be able to power the Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO 250 ohms version?

>>56396369
They're less powerful, I would say otherwise you may not notice a huge difference. The ODAC/Modi 2 Uber are better DACs but how noticeable that will be depends on you and your headphones.

>>56396345
Thanks I just finished viewing a video of Zeos, recommending the Micca Origen for this kind of setups

So according to the pdf manual of the Micca Origen+
The output selector switch is used to output signal to either the rear analog stereo output, or the
front headphone jacks. Both cannot be used at the same time. If there is a need to output signal
to a downstream amplifier and a pair of headphones at the same time, this can be accomplished
by connecting both the amplifier and headphones to the front headphone jacks.
he two headphone output jacks are in parallel, so two pairs of headphones can be connected
in parallel.

So I would just need to connect my SHP9500 to the 3.5mm port and a 1/4 to rca for my monitors?

>>56396539
You could, but why do you want output to both at the same time for the same audio source? Also you may have to crank the volume quite a bit to get to 3V for line out for your speakers. But depending on your speakers you may just set their gain higher to compensate

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Dr Fang Bian rescuing the thread

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>>56398572
Time to post the HE-1000 getting disassembled.

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>>56398613

>>56398613
>>56398623
Lewd

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>>56398623

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>>56398635
Cool wire routing here.

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>>56398658
muh window screen

>>56398613
what's with the scratches? quality 3000 dollar Chinkphones gweilo

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>>56398671
"wood"

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>>56398685
"nanometer grade diaphragm"

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>>56398699
Last one. Hope you enjoyed the fake wood, chromed over potmetal, window screen and crimped to shit signal wires for $3000.

>>56398708
>>56398708
>>56398708

New thread

>>56394134
not that guy. I can't think of anyone reputable who thinks the 650 is better. and the reason is obvious: it's not neutral. it sounds like it's been forced to be warm or more bassy in the worst way. it doesn't even do coloration good. there are good warm/bassy headphones that still manage to be quite balanced. the 650 is not one of those headphones.