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/bsd/ - *BSD General Thread
Discuss FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DragonFlyBSD...

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News sites: http://dragonflydigest.com - http://undeadly.org

OpenBSD edition
>No Jails
>No ZFS
>No MAC
Without un-audited, unofficial ports you get:
>No deluge (WTF?)
>No Pitvi
>No simplescreenrecorder
>No qbittorrent (WTF?)
>No clonezilla
>No open broadcaster studio
>No opera
>No icecat/iceweasel
>NO GPARTED (wtf?!) or any graphical partition manager that people use
>No WINE
>No Clamentine
>Wayland? Lmao your guess
>No Vuze
>No Chatzilla
>No eye-of-GNOME/MATE
>No Krita (WTF?)
>No Pinta (WFT?)
>No FreeCAD
>No LibreCAD
>No QCAD
>No Amrok (Default KDE Music player)
>No GNOME Phone Manager (phone connectivity)
>No KDE connect (phone connectivity)
>No Openshot
>No Shortcut
>No Kazam
>No FFCast
>No Kodi (WTF?!)
>No udisks to automount external drives
>No engrampa or peazip (for zip files)
>No Bleachbit
>No Screenfetch or inxi
>No CPU-G (Linux version of CPU-Z)
>No Knotes/Gournal for note taking
>No RStudio for statistics


Ask for softwares, get autism
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Might as well use gentoo
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>>56354281
Who the fuck uses OpenMEMEsd? It has no software.
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>>56354281
>OpenBSD
>no screenfetch
It has it, it's just that screenfetch is a Bash script so nobody uses it.
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Question. As far as I understand there is FreeBSD, and there are two development branches, FreeBSD-STABLE and FreeBSD-CURRENT. The one for end users would be FreeBSD only right? Are there any other branches I should know about?
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>>56358886
>using the Ubuntu of BSDs
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>>56358830
Use a release, like 10.3-RELEASE. Don't use CURRENT unless you're developing FreeBSD itself.
And if there were some extreme emergency that could only be solved by moving to 10.3-STABLE that would be okay. But that's almost never needed.
tl;dr 10.3-RELEASE
And don't use PC-BSD, since you can install graphics yourself very easily.
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>deletes most posts
>doesn't even delete thread
what
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>open thread a couple hours ago
>come back and find 90% of it is deleted post
what
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>>56360380
Based mods took care of things
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>>56360405
if they did take care of things, they'd have to delete the shitposting OP too
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>>56360480
I agree, but it's still better than no shitposts getting deleted. He may not have noticed OP was a shitpost, I know I didn't at first.
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>>56358901
What's wrong with ubuntu of BSDs?
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Why do people say 'enjoy your FBI backdoors' to BSD users?
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>>56360854
An ex OpenBSD dev claimed there are some backdoors in the system. OpenBSD team started auditing and they found a few ""bugs"" which they got rid of as soon as it went public
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>>56360854
Years ago there was a rumor that OpenBSD has backdoors and a bunch of people that hate the OS started pretending like it was true.
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>>56360891
if you're implying there was a backdoor, feel free to link the specific CVS version where that was a thing
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>>56361002
Not even FreeBSD's portsnap vuln has a CVS
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>>56361015
yes it does

the exploit still exists in -HEAD, so you can go on CVS and see it right away
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>>56361046
hmm, I'll look it up
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>>56354281
Daily reminder that BSD is an insecure garbage. It doesn't have softwares in its official repos, which makes people use ports. Ports are maintained by a group of basement dwelling neckbeards and software vendors do not audit their compile scripts.

Software vendors provide precompiled binaries for Linux with checksum, but they don't do the same for *BSD.

Furthermore *BSD has a very limited driver support. Even if some device manage to run, the drivers crash due to aggressive mitigation. This is why your laptop turns into a room heater when you run X-org on BSD.

BSD desktop environments are poorly put together. Many desktop environments are developed with Linux in mind. For example Xfce, GNOME, Cinnamon or MATE uses udev for automounting external storage. BSD doesn't have udev: automounting will not work on BSD. I knew this first hand when I tried PC-BSD (a variant of BSD) few years back. Now that GNOME and other DEs are slowly moving to newer technologies like Wayland and Systemd: BSD is and will always remain crippled for desktop use.

Just for the record, I'll let you in some secrets: almost no printer/scanner and bluetooth devices will work on BSD.

Overall my biggest beef against BSD is its philosophy. It claims to be "secure" but its "secure" version has NO softwares. Use ports and it is no longer BSD team's fault that you used "insecure" 3rd party softwares. What a joke!!

Bottomline:
1. Linux fights with Windows in terms of usability while BSD can't even compete with Linux.
2. BSD offers NOTHING practical to be used instead of Linux.

If you are using a free operating system, use one that's usable for desktops. Don't use a router OS (while Linux beats them in routers as well).
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>>56361921
>Linux software is developed for Linux instead of BSD!
Okay.
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