/hpg/ - HeadPhone General

>>56334521
Is that Currawong?

between the xpt100 and hm5

which is better, what are the differences between the two, etc?

i ask since i have heard they are pretty similar. and one is a lot easier to get in my country.

reposting
>Budget
$100 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size, prefer over ear
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter
>Comfort level
Medium - High, I'll be wearing them for hours at a time
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference
>Past headphones
A shitty $20 headset and cheap IEMs.
I'm mainly going to use them for gaming and music. I don't know much about headphones so I'm just looking for entry level ones.

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>>56334521
Wait for the bump limit.

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>Budget
$50 USD
>Location
Oregon
>Source
Phone, laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
iems
>Comfort level
Medium
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, slightly warm.
>Past headphones
Koss porta pros, just not portable enough
Sony MDR 7506s, love them but not portable.
10$ panasonics, god tier but too delicate.

>>56334658
ATH-M40x

>>56334780
>>56334661
(you)

I need new earpads for my M50x's. Any suggestions?

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

>>56334758
Why not m50x?

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Hello!

>>56334853
Brainwavz angled pads
ZMF Lambskin pads

>>56334935
They exceed his budget, plus I actually think the 40x is a better value.

>>56334888
If I buy that will I slay azn ladyboys too?

between the xpt100 and hm5

which is better, what are the differences between the two, etc?

i ask since i have heard they are pretty similar. and one is a lot easier to get in my country.

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>>56335027
Yep, they are included.

TEAC will send you a random (male or female) qt azn for any purchase of their flagships products.

qt comes with a 2 year warranty!

>>56335149
Cool, do qt azns actually care about audio? Apparently waito piggus do not

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>paying any amount of money above $10 for a hiss cleaner and a volume knob

How do you justify your dac or amp purchase? You can't.

>>56334935
M40X sound better, more neutral. M50's also have pretty muddy bass. Both are uncomfortable as shit if you don't have a small head. The clamping force is high and the pads get sweaty after a while, though they can be swapped, which is another 15-25 dollarydoos.

IMO there are better headphones in the price range anyway. HD 518s have a nice warm sound, but not to coloured. They're more comfortable than the m50x/40x's by far. The pads are somewhat stiff compared to the 598, but that's another 120 dollars more anyway.

If you want a more similar style to m40/m50's, them the MDR line is what you should look at.

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>>56334521
weebum version

between the xpt100 and hm5
which is better, what are the differences between the two, etc?

i ask since i have heard they are pretty similar. and one is a lot easier to get in my country.

Daily Reminder headphones that are $400+ are placebo

>>56336124
>i don't know what placebo is but i'll say it anyway
Different headphones have different signatures.
Now if you were to say that expensive cables make a difference then that is placebo.

>Budget
150€, maybe more
>Location
Spain
>Source
3,5 mm modo Jack, maybe I'll get an ODAC soon
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size I guess.
>Open or closed
Closed, but I don't really care because I can always close the windows and such (I live in a city).
>Comfort level
Comfy as fuck, also I wear glasses, so some headphones hurt my life after just a few minutes.
>Preferred tonal balance
Guess I want something bassy since I listen a lot of electronic music (dubstep, house, chill, EDM).
>Past headphones
A 20€ gayming ones. They did the work.

>>56335840
I'm dying. What the fuck is this bullshit, for Christ's sake? And I love me some FLAC and $100 headphones, but shit.

>>56335840
He should be shot, along with his placebo.

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FLAC Internet radio:

mpv https://chiru.no:8081/stream.flac

Lossless anime radio for listening with top tier headphones like the SR-007

>>56336665
H-how do you play this file

>>56336714
Any media player than can grab a stream. Foobar2000, mpv etc

>>56336779
Okay cool works with foobar. How do you make it show track titles though?

between the xpt100 and hm5
which is better, what are the differences between the two, etc?

i ask since i have heard they are pretty similar. and one is a lot easier to get in my country.

Sony ex650ap
Is sound Better than you think.

>>56336820
Literal clone along with HF100.
Get the cheaper one.

>>56336866
thank you

now i can stop posting.

>>56336866
holy shit, they are all exactly identical.

how did this happen? copyright mishap?

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>>56336899
No idea.

rate this combo x/10

Hd 600
Fiio e10k
Techno, house, jungle/breaks

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>>56336714
In Firefox, soon.

Mozilla Firefox 51 will launch with support for the Free Lossless Audio Codec (FLAC) built-in to the web browser.

If you check browser support for various audio and video codecs, you will soon realize that support is a mess.

Not only is it different depending on the web browser that you are using, but it may also be different depending on the operating system.

Some formats, like mp3 or H.264, are supported by the majority of browsers while others, like FLAC or Ogg are not necessarily.

While you may not come across a single service or site that supports FLAC or OGG depending on what you do on the Internet, you will benefit from native integration if you do.

FLAC is for instance used by several high quality audio streaming services that offer lossless audio streams.

http://www.ghacks.net/2016/08/30/firefox-51-flac-audio-codec-support/

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>>56331774
>What do you mean by proper compensation curve?

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>>56337095
Olive-Welti I used is very close to Harman. I can try to plot it in REW.

Best IEM for 100$? Looking at Shure 215s.

Also, any headphones with leather ear that isnt 800$. Ive had replacement earpads on my hd600s but the quality is shit

gimme good shit to listen to with my 650s + schiit2 stack

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my Sennheiser CX 150 died today.
It is not the cable, something broke inside the right bud.

Is this a good replacement? I found them for $30.
The box says 'enhanced bass'. Does that mean nigger bass?

>>56337168
Renai Circulation

>>56337182
sick beats
already listened to this millions of times thanks to osu!

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>>56337016

>>56337189
Then every ranked map of Hana wa Odore ya Irohaniho

>>56337168
GuP OST.

>>56337168
Hare Hare Yukai

>>56337220
This. Kinpaku Suru Senkyou desu! is great.

>>56337168
Hira!

>>56337190
> I installed Windows 10, pls don't collect my data

>>56337140
it's a new harman curve specifically for IEMs (blue). the newest for full sized is shown in red and the older is shown in black.

>>56337220
>>56337245
gimme a location for flac versions

youtube compression a shit

>>56337269
by the looks of her, she'll collect all of your data and then some

>>56337168
Listen to this
>>56336665

Nigga playing some Enka right now. Top tier taste

>>56337285
https://chiru.no/play/?asl/[ASL]%20Various%20Artists%20-%20GIRLS%20und%20PANZER%20ORIGINAL%20SOUNDTRACK%20[FLAC]/Disc%201/

>>56337285
https://bakabt.me/torrent/169903/girls-und-panzer-music-collection-flac

>>56337302
this is amazing

>>56337293
honestly i have no idea how to fuck around with mpv.

https://chiru.no/play/?asl/[ASL]%20Various%20Artists%20-%20GIRLS%20und%20PANZER%20ORIGINAL%20SOUNDTRACK%20[FLAC]/Disc%201/33%20Kinpaku%20Suru%20Senkyou%20desu%21.flac

>>56337333
I used foobar
File > Add Location > paste link

>>56337343
ye listening to that now

>>56336795
foobar2000 doesn't do it, only mpv

>>56337355
vlc worked.

>>56337348
thanks for the idea
also damn i had trips

>>56337175
these are great, bought them many times.

>>56336326
DT770 if you really need closed-back, otherwise DT880.

>>56337367
>bought them many times

..this is the joke right?
I think I can send the Cx150 back if I find the receipt. They have 2 year warranty.

>>56337415
im talking about the ones the pic

>>56337376
What about the 990? Is there a really big difference? The 880 are like 30 more bucks.

>>56334521
Holy shit audiophiles are retarded :"")

>>56338081
Also, with what ODAC should I pair that thing? I saw some time ago about an ODAC combo for about 100€ or so.

>Budget
160€ tops
>Location
Portugal
>Source
1100€ gaming laptop I will buy very soon
>Preferred type of headphone
Open with good soundstage
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Don't matter much
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Shitty gamecom 388
Meelectronics m6 pro

I'm currently using the m6 pros for my general audio and I really like their audio signature. From the frequency response graphs they seem neutral with slight bass and I love their sound. I am crossed between the hd598 and the dt990 pro. The lack of bass on the 598 trouble me but I don't really have a reference for neutral sound so idk if the bass on them is enough. The hd598 go for 150 and so do the dt990.

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>Budget
~$250-350 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
Desktop PC
>Preferred type of headphones
Full sized/over ear
>Open or Closed
Open
>Comfort level
High. Will be wearing for long periods of time
>Preferred tonal balance
I like headphones closer to neutral, but as long as it's not beats level insanity I'm not fussed.
>Past headphones
Currently using HD598. Had HD555, HD280, MDR7506 and a few others I can't remember right now.

I've been looking at the 250ohm DT880's. I have a Fiio E10K. Any recommendations in that price range are appreciated.

>>56338270
I'm an idiot. Source as in audio source.

Fiio E10K.

What are some good Earphones under $30?
I had the Sennheiser CX 275S for a few years until some nigger stole them. Should I get the same or do you guys recommend something else? An inline mile would be preferred but not necessary. Thanks /g/

>>56338461
Shit didn't see the format. Country is either the US or curryland depending on where I get a better deal

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>bugdet
something around 100USD (or 10,000JPY)
>Location
Glorious Japan
>Preferred type of headphone
Something on top of the ears, but I won't mind of only earphones fit my needs
>Needs
Keep my mental health when there's a brat crying its lungs out few seats from me in an airplane.

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>Zero Audio ZH-DX200-CT
Opinion on these? Reviews are fucking raving about them.
Cheap af ($30-40) and apparently their audio quality rivals IEMs 10x their price.
I ordered some from a japanese Ebay Reseller that ships to the EU, should be here next week.

>>56337985
Yes. "Bought them many times" , meaning they break after a week so you bought them many times?

>>56338081
DT990 is the most v-shapped of the bunch, so there's a a chance you will not like the treble (unless you are ok with EQing them), DT880 is the closest to neutral, but still v-shapped enough that it has plently of bass for an open-back (actually it's semi-open, but it doesn't isolate at all).
Ti drive a headphone with lie sensitivity you need an Amp, not a Dac, Dac is what you need if your main source doesn't sound that good, presenting hiss and other unwanted noises.
Beyers of 250ohms or lower mau vvebefit from amping, but still work well without them, for the 600ohms you'd need an amp.
O2 and Odac are the most common Ano and Fac suggestion here, alog with Magni and Modi by Schiit.

>>56339534
dumb phoneposter

>>56339264
Pretty legit for the price

>>56338851
You haven't said anything about tuning.
Closed in-ears have the most isolation. A lot of the cheaper sets are heavily ventilated though.
Etymotic MK5 or HF5 variant would work. You could make do some other cheap balanced armature set.

>>56337140
Why make the distinction of "Harman" and "Olive-Welti"?

>>56339264
>audio quality rivals IEMs 10x their price.
I hate this phrase. It usually serves as a tell the person has no idea what they are talking about.
The Carbo Tenore?
I remember there were early reports of variation years ago. It's a set with more lows than highs.

>>56339534
OK, cool, I like that they are kinda close, maybe I'll get an AMP then, and if I want some placebo the the DAC too.
Thanks, anon.

>>56334661
Always the same faggot doing it to remove essential parts of the OP:

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.

>>56339534
OH, shid, i have another question. I went to buy them, but saw those 250 ohm and the 600 ohm, the first one is 166€ and the second 200€. Is that difference worth it? Because if I still need an AMP... Or will be the cheaper worse for some reason?

Uh, do you guys discuss headsets here? Because I'm looking for one for less than 70 bucks/euro and I would like to see what suggestions you guys can throw at me.

Is the HD668B good if you're on a pretty tight budget?

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>>56338851
If you're in Japan just go to some electronics stores, a lot of the larger ones have tons of headphones out that you can audition.

Is there a sound quality/isolation difference between leather and velour pads?

>>56340634
ye. velour is more open and leather/pleather is closed

>>56334644
difference is only in the accesories and some say the fit is a bit looser on the xpt-100. both are based on the same headphone OEM from fischer or some shit, along with some other headphones. xpt-100 just has better cables, pads.

>>56336588
>>56336629
>implying orpheus isn't the best headphone that has ever existed

>>56340736
Does it come with a fleshlight or do you have to buy your own?

>>56336947
>>56336899
asian companies contract out the basic design, or the whole headphone, or the drivers etc. to other companies. a lot of companies do this like fostex/foster. this is how denon built a rep in the west even though they can't make a headphone by themselves at all. same this with creative, the CAL is actually a fostex.

>>56336960
might not have enough bass for you

>>56339264
I know people have raved about the carbo tenore for ages, but isn't it basically a fart cannon with bad build quality? it might be a good fart cannon but that's all it is.

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>>56340422
yes, it was one of my first "audiophile" headphones after the portapro. I suggest getting velour pads, and bending the band to be a bit looser. the highs need some work with eq and/or use felt pads to lower them. I used ones from a 681evo but it's not needed, I used them completely stock for a long time.

>>56340675
Shame, I just can't stand leather pads anymore because they make my ears sweat so much.

>>56340913
try hybrid pads, the offer the best of both in theory. but they are expensive.

>>56340913
They are hybrid pads. I don't know if they are any good though.

>>56340913
Try vegan pads. I know it sounds like a meme but they are usually comfy and don't cause heat build-up and sweating like leather/pleather

>>56340930
>>56340954
Looks nice, will give them a try.

>>56338270
>>56338294
I recommend the DT880 600 Ohm over the 250 Ohm version, however it's not really neutral, it's more V-shaped. K702 is more neutral and can be driven by your Fiio E10K easily.

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>Budget
About $150
>Location
Poland
>Source
PC, will probably buy a E10k
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed or half-open
>Comfort level
I'd like not to feel like they would crush my head.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral or slightly V-shaped
>Past headphones
Audio-Technica ATH-M40fs. They started to fall apart recently...

>>56340736
SR-007 Mk1 is better

What's the point of buying an amp when it's literally just a volume knob?

>>56340997
I mean, isn't pleather already "vegan"? it's a synthetic product

>>56341263
uhh, no. it has a huge trough in the upper mids and highs and a jank inconsistent bass response besides. people only lik eit because it's a stax that doesn't rape your ears.

>>56341296
to replace onboard audio which is not powerful enough and/or introduces noise. you're right that the vast majority of headphones get plenty loud on weak sources though.

>>56341296
Snakeoil and snobbery.

>>56341240
Sennheiser HD558 (sound bad if your source has a high impedance output), AKG K240 Studio, AKG K612 (they need an amp, the Fiio E10K is fine), Philips SHP9500.

Getting a DT770Pro 80ohm
Probably gonna get the E10K any better suggestions?

>>56341343
>>56341240
Sorry I read "open" instead of "half-open". In this case AKG K240 Studio are the most suitable to you. They sound good even without an amp. If you want closed, get either a AKG K271 or a Sony MDR 06 or a Beyer DT770 80 Ohm (they need an amp, Fiio E10K is fine).

how even is the tone on the AKG
K181 DJ UE when the bass boost switches are set off? they're pretty steeply discounted on massdrop right now

>>56334726
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005HP3OB0

>>56341424
I have the AKG K518 LE, they aren't the same but they shouldn't be much different sound-wise. Once the foam inside the cups is removed, they still sound bassy but they're definitely more balanced, even though they're still dark (weak treble).

>>56339610
Yeah, i hate posting from my phone.
>>56340036
No problem, Anon, good luck.
>>56340096
No, the sound difference is not relevant enough to justify the price, they come in different impedances RO facilitate for the user to pick a headphone that works better in the equipment available in the Studio.

>>56340736
implying orpheus isn't most overpriced headphone that has ever existed

FTFY. It still has a veil, and generally inferior performance

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Anyone here have any experience with these high end chinese earbuds? I've been considering to buy these for a while but I'm not going to until someone on /g/ approves of them. I bought the VE Monk earbud after seeing it shilled on Head Fi since the day it was up for sale and it's the best earbud I ever had and it only costs $5, even better than stuff like the Sennheiser MX880 or the AKG K319 (my most expensive earbuds), this one in pic costs $90 so it should be pretty fucking good (and it seems like it is according to Head Fi faggots).

By the way, is there any way to get used to IEMs? I've tryed very hard to tolerate them but I just can't. If I found a way to tolerate these shitty IEMs that are all the rage nowdays I wouldn't have to resort to this kind of expensive chink shit.

Why is everyone getting a E 10k ? Bass boost ?

>>56341690
Curious myself

>>56335236
I don't need to explain myself. I buy it because I can.

Can you?

>>56341690
>>56341698
Memes.


My guess is that it is cheap and comes with DAC

>>56341690
>Why is everyone getting a E 10k ?
It's powerful enough for most headphones, it's easy to use, it has very low impedance output, it's cheap and it's got an integrated DAC.
> Bass boost ?
Never used it and probably never will.

>>56339718
>Why make the distinction of "Harman" and "Olive-Welti"?
No reason, OW was just the first one to be shown in their studies. I adjusted my target for OW to be what the newest study showed and just labeled it Harman target for now. I also made that in-ear target ready.

>>56341690
It's a cheap DA-converted and headphone amplifier combo.

I've got a $250 USD budget so should I opt for something else than the E10K?

>>56341837
No.

If you want a DAC and Headphone combo and it's just gonna sit on your desk hooked up to a PC why not get SMSL SD793 for £40 ? Don't like having to power it from the wall ?

>>56341837
You could try O2+ODAC.

It really depends on your headphones.

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>>56337190

>>56336665
I'm so fucking jealous of this Stax

>>56336665
Do these links work on Music Bee?

What is the general consensus on Sennheiser momentums?

I'm thinking about getting the 2.0 so I can throw them in a bag but the originals looks so much better.

>>56338270
X2's. V shaped but sound great unamped.

>>56341887
I currently have the DT770pro80

>>56342399
Compared to the Momentum I would get the Urbanite. I had both and returned both but the Urbanite is way sturdier and costs less than half. SQ is similar, Urbanite is bass heavy and slightly lacking in treble, Momentum is heavily V Shaped but has less bass and more treble sparkle. Both are uncomfortable as fuck and the SQ is disappointing in both, even more so for the Momentum which is outrageously expensive.

>Budget
$200
>Location
US
>Source
SMSL SD793-II
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
Don't Care
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 280 Pro
ATH-M40x

>>56342456
Forgot to mention that I bought the Urbanite XL and the Momentum Over Hear (not 2.0). So maybe this doesn't help you since you're looking to buy the on-ear 2.0. Sorry.

>>56341386
Thank you Anon-kun

>>56342575

I appreciate the info. I doubt the 2.0's will be much different then.

>Budget
Sub $100.

>Location
Netherlands.

>Source
3.5mm

>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Prefer sound quality over comfort.

>Preferred tonal balance
Lean towards heavier bass, but not too muddy. Listen to a lot of (melodic) techno, deep house, etc.

>Past headphones
Got some In-ear Momentum 2's. They're pretty good for my daily commute but I want something for home / longer usage.

>>56337148
>Best IEM for 100$?

just get an ma750

>>56338461
>What are some good Earphones under $30?

Chink shit (KZ, pistons, zircons, etc) . Soundmagic e10 is like $40.

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>>56341646
These chink earbuds are so tempting. I never really liked iems either. I mean look at this shit, it costs $20.

>>56343129
I bet it sounds $20.

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>>56341306
Pleather can still contain animal based dyes, lubricants, etc. in them. Anyway the vegan pads are different from pleather, it's a suede/alacantra type of material

>>56343129
looks good in the picture, but I doubt it does in real life

>>56343232
>animal based lubricants

where? I need this for my dragon pussy

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>>56343183
According to this head-faggot it tops the list next to this abomination which costs over $200.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGTZnKX1aP29c1bzs5JWgqSUlPzZqV9p_cw79VfRBpQ/pub

>>56343277
Try lard

>>56343314
Never take head-fi's advice on anything released in the past 2 years, they always have some FOTM that sponsors shill.

It's a bad forum in general because of all the sponsorships.

In fact you shouldn't buy anything audio related that was made in the past 2 years in general because of advertising/FOTM

>>56343360
>advertising decreases product performance

>>56342759
Dude, just get the WDN CLG-5. They're made by a Dutch company, so you should be able to get them pretty easy.

>>56343507
>advertising exaggerates product performance

>>56343232
isn't suede leather though? or you mean it's like artificial suede? I would like to try microfiber pads eventually but they seem like they would discolor/fray/get dirty easily.

>>56341623
it is, but it's still the best imo. I think it's possible to build a diy one if you're willing to put in the extreme time and effort and probably still a lot of cost.

>>56343704
Orpheus isn't even top 5

recommend me a headphone stand for my HD 600's lads

>>56343704
>Costs more than a SR-009
>Performs worse than SR-009

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>>56343129
>>56341646
I tried buds for the first time in years yesterday. holy shit so uncomfortable, so insecure feeling. literally like lying your head down next to a shitty chink boombox. if you find IEMs uncomfortable please try the hje-120k. most comfortable IEM out there and only $7.

>>56341690
it's cheap and known to be good. the only other amp like that is that smsl one. I never use the bass boost and I would imagine the same is true for most owners on here. I can only imagine the most hungry headphones like an he-6 not being powered fine by it.

>>56343764
Brainwavz Peridot

>>56343764
a garbage can m8

>>56343773
Which buds have you tried?

>>56334521
>Budget
£300
>Location
United Kingdom
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM/portable
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Medium - High
>Preferred tonal balance
high tones ftw
>Past headphones
- koss porta pro
- ep-630
- koss ksc75
- philips TX2BK
- hd-681

>>56343704
>Copy the link and paste into the address bar or skip to 2:58

https://youtu.be/JodtqfmJ478?t=2m58s
>this is what music sounds like through the Sennheiser Orpheus

>>56343704
Yes it's a synth-suede material. That's the closest I can describe it anyway

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>>56341837
you should just buy better headphones. $250 goes quite far. stretch a bit and you can reach the "reasonable endgame" territory like k702, hd600 etc.

>>56342456
>Momentum is heavily V Shaped
more like heavily rolled off

>>56343893
Are you kidding me? I quite remember the treble being quite sharp compared to the Urbanite XL. How does the graph for Urbanite XL look?

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>>56341727
>I don't know why so it's a meme

>>56343927
looks like mud
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserUrbaniteXL.pdf

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>>56343791
chink ones, can't remember the name because I got them as a freebie or by accident or something when ordering other chink shit.

>>56343927
you're probably hearing treble spikyness even though it's at lower level. aka "sparkle".

>>56343704
It's only pricey if you want to do something like build it out of gold-plated quartz stators. Wachara didn't go through nearly that kind of expense in the DIY HE90.
Electrostatic drivers are the easiest to make at home and DIY. The design is more simple than other types of headphones. Electrostatic amplifiers are another thing, but whatever.

You should want to validate the performance of your creation: measure it.

>>56344116
so it would probably just be easier to buy an old electrostat amp?

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>>56344109
>>56343996
Honestly a long time has passed so maybe I'm not remembering them too well. I'm not even sure what to look at in those graphs. They look nearly identical to me. I even put them one on top of the other, in fact the Urbanite seems to have higher peaks in the treble? But to be honest I have no idea what I'm looking at.

>>56344162
urbanite: a bit more treble, bass lift focused more towards the lower bass where the momentum is pretty even thorough the mids before things go wrong. the momentum is a heavily warm/rolled off headphone. I could see some people liking it. the urbanite just looks like it would be muddy.

>>56344162
you're right. the urbanite XL's treble would be more objectionable.

maybe you have been trying the wireless momentums. their treble is all kinds of fucked up.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserMomentumWirelessWiredActive.pdf

>>56344213
How do you tell warm vs muddy from those graphs?

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>>56344213
>>56344162
also: honestly most people don't notice consciously when highs are rolled off either because most of the music has been represented already before the roll off, or because a lot of music doesn't make use of that kind of extension, or because they're just plain inexperienced. many "popular" headphones can be called roughly v-shaped but very few actually have well extended or even highs, many don't have good bass either, they just seem that way to plebs because of weird humps, see the original beats for an example. pop headphones tend to be more even in the middle. people naturally notice loss of bass easily, loss of upper mids and highs less so.

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>>56344281
see how the bass lift on the urbanite has it's extreme at about 100hz? that usually translated to muddy sound when the treble is also lowered, in my experience anyways. the hd650 has this problem too. you could still call the exurbanite warm overall, the momentum is just better at that sig, but still takes it a bit too far. see something like the hp50 or mad/alpha dog for what I think a proper warm headphone should sound like.

>>56344136
If it's something like an original SRM-1 Pro (35 years old), that might be a little too old without maintenance. Depends on how long it was left to sit on a shelf and that sort of thing.
That is, if you want to go DIY and electrostatic.

Budget
>80 USD (negotiable)
Location
>US
Source
>Laptop
Type
>Preferably completely covering ear
Open or closed
>preferably open but not super important
Comfort
>Doesn't matter
Past headphones
>shitty 20 dollar ones


I would really like for them to be wireless USB transmitter but bluetooth is acceptable. Using them for talking to people while gaming. And I wanted a protruding mic.

Audio store near me has the HE400S for $200, it was a demo unit but looks like it's in good shape, should I go for it?

>>56344633
LL-T17D3

>>56344943
>LL-T17D3

I googled this with no results. What company makes them or do you have a link?

>>56345046
>LL-T17D3
That's the serial code for an old-ass monitor, pretty sure he is just trolling

>>56334888
>>56335149
I have a Teac UD-301. Completely fixed my speaker buzz from when I was using a USB recording interface as a source for my powered speakers.

>>56345161
Buzz? Was it a usb powered interface? Might have been a ground loop or something

>>56342378
If it works with streams, it'll work. Otherwise use vlc/mpv/foobar2000/ffplay

>>56336665
>Try to be an elitist with ODAC>HDVA600>HD800
>listen to this
>like it a lot

I should probably end myself.

>>56345469
The past two hours have pretty much all been well mastered.

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>Budget
$200 USD Hard Budget
>Location
U.S.
>Source
Both PC's soundcard and iPhone inb4 pc and iphone
>Preferred type of headphone
Either Or - Prefer a recommendation for both
>Open or closed
IEM = closed, Full Size = Open
>Comfort level
Comfort > Sound Quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Doesn't Matter
>Past headphones
Skullcandy Earbuds and Bose SoundTrue Headphones

>>56345567
AUA-200LP

>>56345567
Pro Tip: Sennheiser will reveal the HD 599 etc. line up at IFA in 2 days. Wait a bit senpai.

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>>56345616
>wait
>headphones haven't advanced in 30 years

>>56345637
>existing headphones don't get cheaper once a successing model is introduced

That's okay, I guess.

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>>56341623
>most overpriced headphone that has ever existed
You mean the HE-1060.
>$55k

>>56345616
Will they really? Also, fuck that means HD600 might get discontinued??

>>56345610
cant find anything on these :/

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>>56345673
People wouldn't buy it if it were any cheaper desu.

How do companies like this (http://www.wywires.com/) stay in business? How are they convincing old idiots to shell out hundreds to thousands of dollars for copper wires?

>>56345684
HD 600 is a cash cow, won't be discontinued for quite a while.

It's partly because the HD 598 got thrown out on the market for $99 in 2015 and sales don't get the price up anymore :^)

>>56345673
Tube warming up is utter bullshit. I've used a few pairs of 6922 tubes before and it took about half a second for the amp to get up to normal sound quality + volume from when I cold started it. But hey if people want to wait a minute for the damn case/amp/dac to open and heat up before they can even listen to anything, then so be it.

>>56345693
Thing is even the original orpheus' MSRP of $15k was absurd back in the mid 90s. Even accounting for inflation this thing costs more than double that.

Nevermind the dubious design decisions of using 8 dual triodes in the amp, or sticking mosfets (which are too small to have low enough output capacitance for estats) in the cups themselves to ensure it won't work with any other estat amps.

>>56345741
At least the mosfets are a real innovation to solve the efficiency problem of estats at low frequencies. Measurements will show if it's a good choice (Axel Grell said it is).

>>56345701
Odds are your district judge is buying these cables

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>>56345610
anyone able to find any info on these???

>>56345775
They sell power cords for $900, how are they not bankrupt? Is it just a pure scam and they make insane profit but no one can definitively prove it's a scam?

>>56345772
I'm not going to be holding my breath either way. That ridiculous price tag & it's inability to be used with other amps puts it squarely in the "richfag who doesn't actually give much of a shit about headphones, but wants a shiny, expensive toy to show off to other richfags" category.

>>56345848
Yes. It's a statement product not for the masses. It does sound quite nice though, never heard Stax stuff however.

>>56344925
pretty good price, but doesn't adorama have the hd600 for like $240? after buying the hybrid pads for the 400s they would be about the same price, make your choice.

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>>56345844
it's a pure scam. they make money because their costs are basically nothing. some idiot buying one cable probably funds their operational costs for like a year.

>>56345738
DACs should be left on 24/7

>>56346055
That's what I thought intuitively, this is the first time I've seen anything this ridiculous. I guess this sort of thing has been going on for a long time in the audiophile world. I really wish there was a way to expose/bankrupt these sort of companies.

>>56345786
you're being trolled.

get a 558/598 (one of the most comfortable full-sized headphones), and get an hje-120k (arguably most comfortable IEM). if you want something with a one-button remote/mic there is a version of the 125k with that, sounds very similar to the 120k.

I have all of these if you have questions BTW.

total cost should be under $150 shipped.

>>56346055
>SR-009, third part amp etc

These exist because people want to buy expensive amps and such. Demand exists for these, but not for cheaper options.

>>56346075
It's been going on since the 70s, but it has more or less taken burgeoning chinese graft to embed it into headphones.

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>>56346075
>I guess this sort of thing has been going on for a long time in the audiophile world
longer than you can imagine. and if you think the headphone world is bad, it's nothing compared to speakerfags spending not only tens of thousands on placebo speakers, amps, and dacs, they also buy things like cable risers and crystals you tape onto your cables.

see pic. we have had entire threads on this.

>>56346163
>paint something white just so you can stick big black things on it

hmm

Using 598's plugged into a Blue Yeti mic, will I notice any improvement in quality with 320kbps at this level?

>>56346189
no. if anything the yeti is probably the worst part in the chain since the amp for motoring is probably shitty. 320 mp3 is already past transparency level.

Kind of random, but anyone tried painting and/or vinyl wrapping the plastic parts of the HD600? You know, the crappy looking marble parts. Just wondering what all is involved and how difficult it would be.

Hi hpg, retard here

Just purchased a e10k, and i mean it works for foobar, albeit lower in volume than i was expecting...

how do i get this mf'er to work on firefix and everything else

>>56346213
Would it be better to plug straight into my desktop?

>>56346296
might be. problem with the 598 and 558 is if the amp doesn't have low output impedance it sounds kind of bloated from part of the fr getting boosted. one of the new headphones I would buy an amp for even if they get loud enough.

>>56346336
*one of the only

>>56346066
tubes really shouldn't though. they get hot as fuck.

>>56346495
Yeah, it's because tubes operate hot that they need less warmup than SS

>>56346055
>dat transformer box
I don't understand how someone could shell out for both an 009 and an HE90 but not a proper amplifier for both of them.

>>56346611
Idiots tend to have a hardon for their existing amplifier but get clued in to stats being the best. There is a reason stax no longer offers transformers: you easily blow holes in your drivers with them.

anyone here know about speaker amps? wondering if this will do the job for my cheap Polks

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Breeze-Audio-TPA3116-HiFi-2-0-Audio-Stereo-Digital-Power-Amplifier-Advanced-50W-50W-Sound-good/32664243769.html

>>56346679
There's a good review here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKKrQr_Kc6w

>>56346660
Wasn't it just the woo wee that slowly destroys the diaphragms? If I recall correctly the wee doesn't have the 4.7M/5Mohm resistor for the bias supply. I can't imagine the stax transformers doing something that daft.

>>56346713
WEE aside, what happens when the pot on that tube amp gets knocked to 4AM while music is playing?

>>56344633
Hyper X Cloud 1

Good luck finding a decent wireless headset around that price.

>Budget
400 usd
>Location
Mootxico
>Source
Fiio E10K
>Preferred type of headphone
Over
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Very comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral o v-shaped
>Past headphones
None


Generally I listen to this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ghR5emVBps

>>56346774
I guess that depends on the transformers in the box as to whether they just distort or blow up the headphones.

>>56335840
Any more audiophile cringe?

>>56345741
I though that was done to avoid the usual cable capacitance.
What is the capacitance of the usual amplifier anyway?

>>56346537
That doesn't really follow.

>>56346660
>stats being the best
Why would anyone assume this?

>>56346877
The output capacitance for an estat amp should be kept as low as possible (<10pf).

>>56346905
Should clarify, that <10pf figure is for the actual transistors used in a given amp.

>>56346858
misusing the word 'audiophile' is pretty cringe

>>56346792
Is there anything wrong with these?

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Surround-Headphones-Microphone/dp/B003VANOFY/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1472594242&sr=8-16&keywords=WIRELESS+HEADPHONES+WITH+MIC

I'm not an audiophile I'd prefer usability over amazing quality.

>>56334521
>Budget
$150 AUD
>Location
Australia
>Source
PC
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Open or closed
Prefer Open, but does not mater
>Comfort level
4 hours without me ears hurting
>Preferred tonal balance
dont care
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD 201 - they are alright. To cheap though

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>>56346705
high noise floor, so it will have hiss at low volume? sounds bad for me, since I listen close to the speakers at my desk and tend to use low volume.

anyone know of a cheap amp with low noise floor? volume level isn't my concern, just that the output is clean. this will be for neir-field listenng on small speakers.

>>56346877
>Why would anyone assume this?

Because the scheme achieves closest to an ideal transducer and even the most basic products demonstrate this:

http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR207EP507LeatherPadsSerNumSB22217.pdf

Posted in last thread, but I didn't get an answer:

>Budget
Roughly $100. I can go as high as I need to, but I want to stay as close to $100 as possible.

>Location
USA

>Source
Computer, phone, and 80s receiver for vinyl.

>Preferred type of headphone
Full.

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
As comfortable as possible without sacrificing quality. I wear glasses, if that factors in.

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral. This is the most important factor for me and the reason that I'm having trouble finding a pair on my own. I want a good, completely neutral sound with nothing boosted or recessed.

>Past headphones
I've only used cheap earbuds that aren't worth mentioning.

>>56347148
Not to the leakage.
If you think the spatial variation is lower, human ears don't bear that out on Lambda models.

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>>56347217
>If you think the spatial variation is lower, human ears don't bear that out on Lambda models.

This is too ambiguous. Try a paragraph.

>>56347313
>dat obvious seal leak on the earpads

>Budget
$100-$150, flexible
>Location
Scandinavia
>Source
Desktop
>Preferred type of headphone
Prefer over-ear, but on-ear is also OK if comfort is good
>Open or closed
Both work
>Comfort level
Should be comfortable enough to be used several hours every day (2-12+ hours)
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference
>Past headphones
Logitech G35. I want to move away from gaming headphones

>>56347334
Do you see the words "free field"?

>>56347353
To add to this, I'm currently thinking of buying Marshall Major 2. Please convince me

>>56347361
I'm saying the bass response would only have that hump + roll off if there was an improper seal on the earpads. Normally the bass response is loliflat.

>>56347551
Nevermind, I see what you mean. Not sure what the use in measuring a lambda without the earpad seal is.

>Budget
$1000000
>Requirements
It has to make me cry and twitch uncontrollably as I'm overtaken by lush mids, airy highs and visceral bass.

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>>56347313
So much for the uniform sound field, but one example:

>(a) Sennheiser HD 800 (electrodynamic),
>(b) Stax λ pro (electrostatic), and
>(c) Sennheiser HD 650 (electrodynamic).

>>56347591
Hire bands to play live and hookers

class requires that I get a pair of headphones, only requirement is over ear and shure shr 240a equivalent. i've only ever used speakers to listen to music aside from apple earbuds when on the go. the lower the price, the better. I won't be using these too frequently, but I can also recognize value and longevity.

>Budget
$40, less is better but a little more is fine
>Location
USA
>Source
focusrite scarlett interface-- didn't check which
>Preferred type of headphone
over ear, otherwise no preference
>Open or closed
no preference
>Comfort level
moderate - 2/3hr sessions every other day
>Preferred tonal balance
No preference
>Past headphones
n/a

>>56347662
I was just testing my lambda with pink noise, shuffling it about on my head while trying to avoid comb filtering with my hands.

A few dB at 8 kHz, while 14 kHz and above is only audible when the set is positioned forward. Quite consistent with these results. I'm quite surprised to see the 650 do so well considering the 38 mm driver.
My past dynamic experience was with the AD900, the position dependence of which more or less drove me to stax.

Rin Choi wrote:


CON: Since the diameter of the transducer is only 38 mm, the headphone's sweet-spot is very small. My recommendation is to place the driver to the rear portion of the pinna, so that the harsh peaks in the high frequency range are settled. Meanwhile Mr. Jan Meier of Meir Audio recommends the exact opposite. His method yields a sharp null in the treble, which creates a 'veil' like sound quality.

>>56344633
grado sr80
ignore every meme reply about grado.

>>56347857
Pink noise and sine sweeps, rather.

>>56347938
God no

>>56347938
>completely covering ear
>sr80
I agree with you that Grados are recommendable but not in this case.

>>56334521

What kind of visceral reaction do you get when you cry, is it relief or astonishment?

I'm curious with OPs pic,how does accurate reproduction elicit automatic emotional stimuli... Memories and sudden belief in the divine,the touch of God in aesthetism contributes to the surreality of life... Why is the guy in OPs pic crying, do audiophiles cry often? I understand emotional responses, but that's the epitome of beauty. What does the guy see?

>>56347852
TSi6400

>>56348672
The cleanest, best pleasure

>>56347857
Examinations into this behavior in headphones are somewhat uncommon.

The quartiles in Figure 4 encompass a rather small range of possibilities/results. It's quite a bit less than one standard deviation of the normal distribution.
Normally you would do something within 2 SD of the Gaussian (~95%) or so. Following through with that idea/assumption 2 SD would be triple, so ± 6dB around 8-9 kHz. That's from pinna cancellation, highly unstable.

Völk's study doesn't seem to have deliberately shifted it around too much.
>changes in the transfer characteristics of the headphone specimens due to repetitive positioning on the listeners’ ears are assessed for human heads

>>56348672
He has been primed to expect divine fidelity
A palpable reaction is a social display of competence
The headphone is actually bretty gud

>>56348735
You know what I'm going to ask you now.

Where else on the net is material like this discussed bar AES/paywalls?

>>56341321
That's a DAC though. He mentioned an amp. Amps don't replace on-board audio at all.

>>56347021
bump

>>56348876
AES and audio material? Sporadically on pro audio forums, if you ask about the right material in the right place. Some members browse other audio forums and you can chat with them there publicly.

I don't know a place for headphones. I do recognize a few other Head-Fi members as having involvement with the AES. They don't necessarily browse often and seem to have different interests.
Can't exactly distribute the journal freely there besides what the authors choose to release.

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Just got an ma750. Would a Portable dac/amp do anything to change the sound positively with a smartphone, or are there no significant improvements.

are ATH-A500X actually good?

>>56349436
I don't know about the A series, but I've heard generally good things about the AD series.

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Part One
>Budget
limited at about $50 american dollars (or $1000 mexican pesos, money exchange is a btch)
>Location
Mexico City
LOCAL STORES:
BestBuy
Liverpool
Sanborns
There's also a tecnology-specialized area in the city centre known as "plaza de la tecnología" with tons of stores, also, near that place there are professional audio stores
>Source
Mainly going to use them on my Moto X Play w/Poweramp & Win 10 Groove player (I'm a dirty peasnt I know, but just found out this board exists) with .flac, .m4a and .mp3
>Preferred type of headphone
I'm pretty much used to IEMs, I feel that they can deliver the most sound without letting much of it bleed. PLUS, they are way cheaper than buying noise cancellation-open ones
>Open or closed
If I were to buy full sized headphones, I would prefer that sound stayed with me, so I'm going with closed ones
>Comfort level
I have ridiculously sensitive ears: I used to have over-the-ear noise cancelating headphones (ie Beats Studio, I know, I'm a niggr) and the outer part of my ears hurted like hell after 30 mins of use, that's why my way-to-go has always been IEMs, but I would really like good audio quality
>Preferred tonal balance
Don't know if this helps but, my favourite genres are: Alternative/indie, rock (not heavy), pop and a bit of EDM

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>>56349809
>Past headphones
ZAGGsmartbuds (IEMs)
The coating protecting the cable was pretty cool, so was sound quality, plus they came with a bit of accesories on the tips department, only used the medium silicone ones tho - MAYOR DOWNSIDE: they got f'd up really fast (the kevlar-like inside coating got, dragged down? quick with the exterior plastic coating)
Skullcandy ink'd (IEMs)
Overall good sound and cheap price tag, (also loved the flat cable)
Monster Beats Studio (Around ear headphones)
The thing that drawed me to buy them was the noise cancelation and the so called "good sound quality". I liked them, but as I mentioned, they hurted my ears like hell
Skullcandy dime (IEMs)
Again, excelent sound quality vs price tag (at least in México), plus the design on the black version kicked ass, though it was printed on plastic and got off really quick
Turtle beach XLa (around ear headphones)
They were on sale ok? stop judgin. So, this ones are actually pretty comfortable, and the sound doesn't bleed that much.
Urbanears Medis (Earbuds?)
Those were an impulse buy because they were on sale, the design was pretty unusual for me, but they had something... STILL, they hurted my ears like hell too, and the sound bleed, so I had to bring them back to the store. The sound was pretty good tho
Urbanears Kransen (IEMs) - Now using them
I just LOVE this bad boys, from the design to the sound, I swear that I could hear new sounds on my songs with them. I think that not only they are funtional (they have a lego-like thing that snaps them together and a "cable holder" built in the upper part of the jack to secure the entire cable)

Is the K712 a meme?
I've read they're the exact same as the K702 with different earpads and color but I've also heard they sound way better.

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>>56349809
>dick jumps

>>56349809
Considering you live in Mexico your best bet is to regularly browse Amazon Mexico to find decent deals. Sometimes you can get stuff for cheap
I got a pair of AKG K550's for 2200 pesos. Best purchase I've ever made
If you're set on buying something RIGHT NOW the Sennheiser HD 202 are fairly easy to find and sound good for the price. I see them all the time in Mixup or Cimaco.
If you want IEMs you're pretty much fucked with that budget. Try to get some legit Piston 3 from Mercadolibre. The legit ones are around 600 pesos.

>>56349809
>Mexico

First priority is to get out of that shithole to a real country and get a decent job.

>>56349847
>>56349809
To add to this, if you can save up a few extra bucks you can get the Shure SE215 for a decent price in Mercadolibre. They're 1500 pesos right now. I think they're the same that cost like 50 quid in alibaba, but just take whatever you can fucking get.

>>56342441
I don't know if I'd call them V shaped, the bass is bumped up a fair bit around 60Hz but the treble peak is in line with the mids.

Has anyone tried the beyerdynamic DT 1770 pro's?

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>Budget
$0-$150

>Location
Midwest USA

>Source
Nexus 5x

>Preferred type of headphone
Wireless IEM

>Comfort level
Comfy

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral but bassy is okay

>Past headphones
Skullcandy [living off that SK warranty since highschool]


I grabbed a pair of Skullcandy's newest bluetooth earbuds on a whim from Target because I needed something to work out with and my work headset died, [FedEx driver] they're pretty meh for the price as I figured they'd be. It's been a while since I've looked into headphones, IEMs, and bluetooth tech. What's good these days?

>>56349421
if you hear hiss when there is nothing playing then yes, if not it probably won't improve things in a noticeable way. IEMs do tend to have noticeable noise from phones though because of how sensitive they tend to be. it's usually low enough so that you don't notice when music is playing but depending on where you are and what you're listening to you can notice it during quiet periods. try turning up the volume when nothing is playing, not all the way but as high as you think you would ever listen.

>>56350005
>120 fps drop for realistic pubes and eyebrows

Worth it

>>56350005
Look up bluedio. Been using the n2 for a few days now and they're great.
Strong bass, a little weak on mids and trebble, but they do sound better than my old wired in ears that came with my g3.

Wwill an SMSL SD793-II be able to drive a DT880/ 600ohm? if not what should I get?

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is the tfz series 5 the current iem meme?

Are B Stock dac/amps worth getting? I'm thinking about getting an O2 ODAC REVB B Stock to save $40.

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I dropped my IEM with foam tips on a public bathroom floor. They were there for a few seconds. Am I gonna get an infection?

>>56350936
time to schedule an appointment and get tested

>>56350945
H-headphone-chan will know I h-haven't been faithful ;_;

>>56346075
>I really wish there was a way to expose/bankrupt these sort of companies.
The pricing and the exclusivity of what it brings is one of the main reasons why they sell. The buyer is the dumb one here.

>>56350936
what iem?

>>56350900
Pretty sure b stock is just cosmetic imperfections.

>>56351038
Shure SE215

>>56350726
They only recommend up to 250 ohm headphones for that model. You'd be better off with an O2 or Magni 2 Uber

Can someone tell me where to get decent 50mm drivers for a mod project?

Its a sony ZX701 I have and I would like to put some better drivers in them as a pair for the gym

I can't fucking find anything however

>>56349819
K702 used to be the direct challenger of the HD650 when they were in the same price range. Now that K702 is more than twice cheaper than the HD650 (at least in Europe), it represents excellent value for the money. K712 costs as much as HD650, but frankly it's not as good as it. K712 is bassier than the K702, it's less detailed, it's muddier and it has different pads and colours.
If you want an open AKG now, the best choices are either the K612 or the K702/K701/Q701 (?).

>>56351167
You should just shut up

>>56351295
Kill yourself

What's good under $100? I can't really hear a wide range, so I have no need for super-tech audiophile stuff, I'm more for noise reduction.

>>56350936
Slut.

>>56351312
Vmoda remotes are really good, but if you're after noise cancellation, why not memory foam earbuds?

>>56351053
B-stock is usually customer returns within the period they need to be returned. They could be as good as new.

New thread!
>>56351322 >>56351322 >>56351322

>>56351312
>>56351319
Oh, I forgot to mention that I only like headphones that cover my whole ear.

>>56351333
I didn't know that, thanks.

>>56347021
HD 518

>Budget
75$
>Location
Canada
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Portable and over/on/in, but not IEM. IEMs never seem to seal or stay in, do I have shitty pairs or am I doing it wrong?
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
1-2 hour sessions. Nothing bulky, or that will fall out while walking.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Past headphones
ATH-AD700
ATH-AD900X

>>56351344
sennheiser hd280 is the most isolating headphone I have heard but it achieves that through pretty high clamp force if that's ok with you. it also sounds just ok for $100.