Smart vs. Dumb

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>>56307707
>gps / navigation
>e-mail
>wikipedia

4G hotspot and this >>56307743

>>56307707
being able to access all the information available to the human race wherever you are is kind of useful sometimes yeah.

>>56307743
>gps / navigation
This is the only real reason.

>>56307758
aside from browsing 4chan and comparing store prices of weeb shit to amazon what have you ever used it for?

>>56307779
recipes in stores

food calorie shit

finding stores

checking when packages get to my house

smart shit

There is no reason to get a smartphone.

None.

>>56307743
>gps/navigation
>i like being tracked by the government
Get a fucking map.

>email
You have email at home. You don't need it on the go.
>wikipedia
Same.

Why do people think they need this shit on the go? Is it because they don't take any goddamn time to prepare for shit before they run out of their fucking house and go out fucking blind like a moron? This is what a fucking smartphone is, a goddamn crutch toy for idiots with no idea how to prepare themselves for the real world.

>>56307821
so a bunch of useless shit then, like I thought

>>56307827
Being able to google shit on the go is a fucking godsend. I use my phone at least weekly to price check shit at pawn shops and thrift stores, the alternative would be a two hour skate to my house and a two hour skate back to buy whatever I'm price checking. Fuck that.

>>56307863
>at pawn shops and thrift stores,
lol

>>56307874
What?

>>56307889
If you're reduced to scrounging through shitpiles for stuff maybe you should redirect some of that phone budget to other things lmao

>>56307914
>I like wasting money
>I hate finding neat shit
Why?

>>56307827
>preparation is better than improvisation
>in a postmodern context
You are algorithmically wrong.

>>56307956
>finding neat shit
>in garbage heaps

>If you don't buy used garbage like me you're wasting money

it's alright buddy some people are just poor I guess, say hi to Paco and Juan for me

I literally couldn't live without my smartphone. To me, it's more important than my PC.

I can only imagine that people who don't use them are NEETs basement dwellers who never leave their home.

>>56308000
I'm not remotely poor, I find neat and cheap stuff at the stores so I keep shopping there.

Enjoy being a consumerist whore.

>>56308020
What do you use it for?

> gps
> personal/school notes
> timetable
> wolfram alpha/scientific calc
> tichu counter
> music

You can shitpost anywhere you want

>>56308026
>I'm not remotely poor
uh, sure thing pal, whatever you say...

>>56307707
SDXC support
Not lagging UI
Better DAC
Wi-Fi tethering
USB charging
Better browsers

I know a lot of those exists in old Symbian smartphones, but you had to pay a fortune for them, and it's only ~$100 now. So yeah, it's definitely an improvement.

>>56308054
Man are you ever a piece of shit.

>>56307707
>other than muh apps

thats like asking if there is anything useful about reading books other than
>muh information
>muh prose
>muh learning

>>56308026
>spends his free time shopping
>calls others consumer whores

lol.

>>56307831
>stop liking what i don't like

>>56308098
name a practical app that you use regularly

>>56308099
>refuses to look for deals that end with him saving large amounts of money because somebody owned the items before him
>isn't a consumerist whore
lol

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>>56307821
Which app/site for checking food calories and does the app require Google Play Services?

>>56308034

>send texts/images/videos to my friends, gf, college mates etc.
>browse any website anywhere i am, watch youtube videos, check Facebook etc.
>play casual shit games like PoGo.

I feel it like an extension of me at this point.

>>56308116
>because somebody owned the items before him
interesting way to rephrase "garbage"

>>56307831
>knowing food calorie shit is useless
>navigation is useless
Of course it is useless for (You) because you're a fatty/DYEL who does not pay attention to what he ingests and navigation is likewise useless, again for (You,) because you never leave your basement.

>>56308134
>preowned == garbage
You are beyond retarded.

>>56308098
/thread

>>56308130
so nothing then, typical

>>56308114
not that guy, but I use The Wall Street Journal app everyday

>>56307827
>Get a fucking map.
So a 4-6" device with the capacity to hold every map ever is somehow worse than carrying a paper map of limited application around?
>email on the go not important
NEET detected

>>56308141
navigation is literally the only practical advantage to a smartphone

>>56308116
I have no problem looking at used stuff, I just think it's funny that you pretty much defined yourself as a shopper in this thread and then went on to call someone out for their consumerism.

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>Anti-smartphone retards think they can't be tracked if they use dumbphones
Let's face it, you only do it to maintain your special snowflake status

>>56308141
Hey asshole, kindly reply to

>>56308123

Thank you.

>>56308171
4u

>>56308176
It's not like consumerism is a binary thing. I'm may have a thread of consumerism in me but I'm a possessionless monk compared to your consumerist ass.

>>56307707
Social and communication tools are pretty important if you're not a total shut in, dude.

>>56308114
myfitnesspal
stock sony music player
stronglifts 5x5
gReader pro
google maps

>>56308145
you know that people literally give that trash to thrift stores because they can't be assed to throw it out right... ? Did you know that?

>>56308156

>smartphones are only for serious business

Haha holy shit. You never leave your basement right?

>>56308208
I said practical

>>56308123
myfitnesspal you nigger
>will it require me to connect to the botnet
Maybe if you can sideload it but I don't bother, I just use a throwaway gmail account for my devices anyway

>>56308203

>wheredoyouthinkyouare.webm

So what phone provides basic phone utilities as well as GPS, without all of the extra bullshit?

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>>56307707
Instead of a 800 burger so-fucking-smartphone get a 300 burger one and a decent camera

>>56308241
That would be useful, so it probably doesn't exist

>>56308210
You know that people literally throw away perfectly functional stuff all the time, right? Did you know that?

>>56307743
You can do all these on a featurephone

But it'll be running a garbage java OS that never gets updates and makes android look like a masterpiece

>>56307827
>hurr muh privacy
If you consent it's not a privacy violation. You don't want to be tracked? Turn it the fuck off.
>you have email at home durrr
"i have no serious business relationships"

>HURR DURR PREPARE
Oh sure let's just look at pictures online and read up on specs and reviews, then go out to buy something only to find it's shit and you are suddenly considering all the other things you didn't research with NO INFO ON THEM EXCEPT THE IN-STORE DISPLAY

Congrats you've failed at life, go home and research some more. Waste more of your finite mortal years.

>>56308253
uh, it's called garbage for a reason friend...

>>56308232
these are practical for me. That you don't watch what you eat, lift, use RSS for your news, and go out does not make the apps which makes the preceding activities easier "impractical"

>>56308250
I'm sure there's something out there from 2008-2011, but the GPS may no longer be supported

>>56308241
The extra bullshit is a side effect of a phone that provides shit like GPS

Even javaOS "dumb" phones could theoretically have app ecosystems

But you don't have to install fart apps anon
or be a hipster that takes pride in something worse because it can't be mainstream

access to email is convinient.

>>56307863
I do this when buying new fish for my aquarium sometimes. Also helps end arguments at times.

>>56308264
Not at all, dumbass.

>>56308279
>literal nothing post
yawn

>>56308167
Don't forget the different in size. Carrying and holding a full size map is a batch. Also Google Maps and the like receives updates.

ITT: jobless losers who only shop online with mom's credit card

>>56307827
If you have a map of you place and could tell the time you will never get lost

Is not like you are going to be dropped in a random savana with a knife and a sock

Emails on the go on the other hand are useful as fuck I can not live anymore without

>Prepare your shit beforehand
How's the weather in your moms basament?

>>56307827
>map
>implying this isn't as much of a crutch, only far less convenient

Also, when it comes to being tracked by "the government", that already happens in most countries as it is. CCTV, facial recognition software, tracking you by cell signal even on dumbphones, using your browsing habits to profile you, etc,etc,etc. If you think no one is tracking you just because you don't carry a smartphone, you are more of a moron than the people you're deriding.

This thread is literally cancer.

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>>56308305
>out of shape NEET calls my post nothing

>>56308054
>implying actual wealthy people who intend to stay wealthy aren't thrifty as fuck

One of the biggest rules of being rich is to live like you're poor.

>>56308338
Less cancerous than you are, tripfag

>What do you mean my $600 phone wasn't justified I looked up a recipe on it once I could not have done that using any other method before it's impossible, now hey look at this neat home screen and this fun little game I found...

lol normies

>>56308371
Yeah that's why all those billionaires are shopping at goodwill, oh wait a minute....

:^)

>>56308396
>$600 phone
who the shit does this? You can do the things mentioned ITT for half the price and same performance.

What does dumb-phone (aka feature phone) mean anyway? Are those phones, that can't have additional software installed? I didn't know such phones even exist now. Android-based phones are available for all market segment, including the lowest of the low, so what's the point of buying a restricted device?

>>56308396
My smartphone was $160.

>>56308416
you CAN but DOES anyone ITT? probably not, because they just aren't shiny enough, oh I'm sorry I meant "They just don't feel '''''premium'''' in the hand", nothing screams luxury like $.20 worth of extruded aluminum and imitation leather right?

>>56308426
>What does dumb-phone (aka feature phone) mean anyway?
That it's not a smartphone
>I didn't know such phones even exist now
Of course they do.
>Android-based phones are available for all market segment, including the lowest of the low, so what's the point of buying a restricted device?
Because you want one? I wouldn't have a smartphone if I could have a dumbphone with QWERTY keyboard and 4G hotspot

>>56308437
Mine was $250.

>>56308426
>so what's the point of buying a restricted device?

>Being a NEET autist basement dweller
>Being a tech hipster
>Being a tinfoil

>>56308437
Yes. >>56308428

>>56308371
having a larger income is more important than spending less. even if you spend next to nothing, you're still limited by your income. and "it takes money to make money", for example if you do work on your computer it could help to upgrade your computer and computer peripherals, the productivity you gain could be worth more than the expense of the equipment.

>>56307707
One of the huge reasons i have a smartphone is for music. Why have an mp3 player and a phone on me when i could just have one device? And then i get maps and internet and a camera and a flashlight etc etc

>>56308440
>That it's not a smartphone
Then how do you define a smartphone?
>Because you want one?
Why would you want one? Do you pay less for such a restricted device?
>>56308471
>Being a tinfoil
Funny. All phones are trackable via GSM networks. If you're a real tinfoil, you shouldn't use a mobile phone at all (like e.g. RMS does).

>>56308437
I use an Xperia Z5c. It's running an SD810 but only has a 720p screen, which requires less battery and processing power to drive the display unlike other phones with 1080p++
Cost me $400 with tax. "Premium" phones (those equipped with their generation's latest processors) actually perform better down the line than the latest mid-range phones in a given time period. Say you bought a premium phone in 2014. In 2015-2016, it will perform the same or slightly better than a similarly-priced phone.

>>56308426
I don't know, as most 'dumbphones' I see now have a lot of smart phone features. I use a Nokia 515 because the 30 day batter life makes my dick rigid, and while it looks like a dumbphone, I still can pull up maps and use social media features on it.

>>56308522
>All phones are trackable via GSM networks.
fucking this

>>56308524
>Cost me $400 with tax.
lol

>>56308522
>smartphone |ˈsmärtˌfōn|
>noun
>a mobile phone that performs many of the functions of a computer, typically having a touchscreen interface, Internet access, and an operating system capable of running downloaded applications.

Here is a tip faggot OP.

If you don't want want a smartphone don't fucking get one.

>wahh stop liking what I don't like!

>>56308547
>device will last me 2 years minimum, 3 years average, 4 if battery holds
>implying this isn't money well spent for what I get out of it
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>56308548
Most phones fall under this definition, even the so-called dumb or feature phones with Java/J2ME support.

>>56308586
>implying this isn't money well spent for what I get out of it
lol

although I guess you did look up that one recipe that time and even price checked something in a store once. so I guess you're right that was a totally justified purchase...

lmao

>>56308601
>dumb or feature phones with Java/J2ME support.
>performs many of the functions of a computer

>>56308114
/lit/ reporting in

I use two dictionary apps on a daily basis while reading. This is objectively superior to rooting through a physical dictionary and has become essential to reading books.

Additionally, I use a translation app. very often while reading. Those ruskies loved to speak French.

Then, I use evernote to dictate notes into my phone.

These are PRODUCTIVE apps that I use on a daily basis.

>>56308618
>reading for recreation is now PRODUCTIVE

sure thing bud

You can shitpost on 4chan while in you shithole. It's like pottery.

>>56308586
>4 if battery holds

I have a Z2 since 2 years by now, and it still works like a dream, almost never freezes/crashes.

But I'm pretty sure that the battery will start to die eventually, and there's nothing I can do about it.
If it were for me, I would keep it for another 5 years or more.

>>56308615
Yes it does.
Shit definition.

>>56308668
nah

>>56308647
>implying i'm not a professional writer

I write essays for stupid university cheaters all day long.Never mind the novel I'm working on, or the occasional journalism I do (I loathe journalism).

Reading fiction, among other types of reading, is absolutely essential to this.

>>56308603
>once
It is used daily to read news, keep track of email, track my macros, thrice a week to track my lifts, record myself to check my form, and play music when I need/want to, among other uses.
Beats needing to have a newspaper, pen and paper, laptop, a camcorder, etc on my person

>>56308656
I bought it to replace my Z1c that had battery bloat. I would have had it repair but the board was damaged and was out of warranty. The Z1c had a problem with the magnetic port when used with lollipop.

>>56308704
>It is used daily to read news, keep track of email, track my macros, thrice a week to track my lifts, record myself to check my form, and play music when I need/want to, among other uses.
And surely you needed a $400 phone to do this, since they are enormously performance demanding tasks right? No other device could have worked, and the shiny ''''premium'''' feel had nothing to do with your purchase I'm sure, totally justified...

:^)

>autists judging others because they spend over $400 on an extremely productive thing like a smartphone, when on the other side there are literal manchildren who buy $600 and even more expensive video cards (for playing fucking VIDEO GAMES) on this fucking board right now.

T O P

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>>56308761
>on an extremely productive thing like a smartphone,
That's a SPICY meme there friend, you might even be considered a MEME MASTER

:^)

>>56308784
NEET detected

>>56308681
Wikipedia has a better definition:
>A smartphone is a mobile phone with an advanced mobile operating system which combines features of a personal computer operating system with other features useful for mobile or handheld use.[1][2][3] Smartphones, which are usually pocket-sized, typically combine the features of a cell phone, such as the ability to receive and make phone calls and text messages, with those of other popular digital mobile devices. Other features typically include a personal digital assistant (PDA) for making appointments in a calendar, media player, video games, GPS navigation unit, digital camera, and digital video camera. Most smartphones can access the Internet and can run a vareity of third-party software components ("apps"). They typically have a color graphical user interface screen that covers 70% or more of the front surface, with an LCD, OLED, AMOLED, LED, or similar screen; the screen is often a touchscreen.

>>56308743
>And surely you needed a $400 phone to do this
Either that or I buy a midrange phone which I would be replacing much earlier down the line because of the increasingly bloated app requirements. Also the Z5c is plastic, which makes it more resilient and easier to grip. It does not have that "premium feel" which you seemed so obsessed about.

>>56307707
>muh music
>muh videos
>muh photo library
>muh camera
>muh internet
>muh simple payment system (apple pay)

If you don't have a smartphone then you're most likely a hipster who just wants to stick out from the crowd

>>56308806
low tier meme this time t b h, I take if back you are no meme master

>>56308784

How's that GTX 1080 working Mr. Goy?

Sure it was worth it, r-right?

:^)

>>56308822
>I would be replacing much earlier down the line because of the increasingly bloated app requirements.
lol

>>56308847
>Implying I waste time on games

Sadly your deflection didn't work. It was a decent attempt though friend I admit ;^)

>>56307707
Is there any real reason to get a computer other than >muh software and >muh internet?

>>56308114
firefox

>>56307707
To shitpost on /g/ while on the shitter

Although I guess that counts as social media, but that's basically what a communications device is for

>>56307743
Any other number of utilities and apps that you may need for work/school/life and shit. Being a cool kid and not a retard

>>56307707
because internet

>>56308201
oh really? you're talking to a guy who paid $20 for his smartphone (new at walmart) and $800 for his only car.

>>56311758
I spent $160 on my phone because I had specific requirements it had to meet, got the cheapest one that met said requirements. My car was $580. So you spent $820 total and I spent $740.

>>56311861
>me but I'm a possessionless monk compared to your consumerist ass
>$820 vs $740

Yep keep talking out your ass, brother monk!

>>56311966
>lol used stuff sux xD
>who cares if it's perfectly good, someone else owned it first ewww
>I'm a fucking pussy
Just fuck off already

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Can't believe cellphones have been around for 20+ years and yet the audio quality of phonecalls is so shit tier compared to comfy landline phones.

Also you faggots pretending to be rich and shitting on others for thrifting are fucking cancerous and should probably kill yourselves. There is nothing wrong with buying used items, and sometimes, pretty often actually, they are hardly used at all.
Some things you just can't even buy new anymore, no matter how "rich" you are, so stop being retarded.

If you think being rich means wasting your money whenever you get a chance then you've probably been born into wealth anyway and it's really just Mommy and Daddy's money.

>>56312267
I don't give a shit whether something's new. My only point was that if you spend your time browsing thrift shops and pawn shops looking for deals, you're still just as much a consumer as someone who browses Best Buy.

>>56312323
yeah i don't think it was you as much as some other anon pretending that all used shit is garbage

if you shop at all you are a consumer, regardless of where you shop.

>>56312323
Not at all

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>>56307707
yes because
Android is mostly free software if running self compiled AOSP and on a dumb phone it's running 100% proprietary software, and today a phone is needed for being an average everyday person, so I need to be living in the modern world while also living in freedom

I need it for:
- GPS
- making calls
(I'm food delivery guy, lots of retards don't have a working doorbell nowadays and want you to call them if you're there)
and
- email
- agenda
for school

What's the point to carrying a watch around on your wrist? I mean the sun is in the fucking sky so just look at it. Build a sundial in your front yard.

What's the point of writing things on paper? Stone tablets are vastly superior.

>Permanent
>Won't blow away like paper
>Fire proof
>Really heavy and strong

>>56307762
Yes^

>>56312397
>being an average everyday person
git gud fgt