My 15 year old daughter wants a macbook. I cant justify spending

Rape her until she comes to her senses

Just buy it her and make her happy.

>>56303524
I guess this is the only reasonable thing to do.

>>56303524

/thread

>buy a thinkpad
>format hard drive
>give her a gentoo dvd

>>56303515
Just get here a used one for a few hundred.

just buy it or she's gonna hate you forever and get pregnant by a minority that will cost YOU even more than a 1k$ laptop

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show her this, and tell her to stop this nonsense desire for overpriced homeless tier bullshit

get her a rose gold macbook with its superior retina display and lightning fast 600mhz core m3 cpu

>>56303618
Do abortions cost more than a grand? I can get a wire coat hanger for free

>>56303515
She gets a hackintoshed X220 and a lecture on how money doesnt grow on trees so she should shut the fuck up.

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>>56303620
>showing a cute girl an autistic infographic with misspelled words
this is why you're still a virgin, anon-kun

>>56303620
>discussing laptops
>lol this cell phone from the same brand sux xD

just buy her the macbook jesus christ she's a child and wants something cool

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>>56303525
and teach her to be an entitled brat?

>>56303637
dodger is cute CUTE!

>>56303515
> My 15 year old daughter...
Look online for a second hand one. Or a second hand iPad with external keyboard Don't tell her jack until you have it on your hands and have made sure it works. Use a website where people resell shit and you get karma and buyer reviews.

If even the second hands are expensive get her a used cheap ThinkPad from the x series and see if you can install pirated/paid apple os on it. Regardless of if the machine will end up with Apple or some other, she will complain it's ugly. Tell her to get a job after school. Don't do all the work for her on researching jobs. Under no circumstances offer her to help out around the house for money.

She will either learn that pretty-looking shit isn't worth the money if the only point is for it to be pretty, or she will learn to work for her shit. Regardless of what she chooses internally don't expect her to not complain externally though.

>>56303515
Tell her she's getting a second hand thinkpad and she can fuck off if she wants a macbook because they're a meme. They only exist for rich people to masturbate with

Let her buy it from her own money or maybe pay half. $1000+ is a lot of money to give to someone as a present.

If she's cute buy her one, if she's a uggo give her a back hand

>>56303654
nigga you blind.
not her

>>56303677
>If she's cute buy her one
She wont fuck him, you fucking pervert.

Is this how cucked modern parents are?

>>56303658
have a free hackintosh tutorial

download this https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pg=1&t=4158890
download vmware player
change the 3rd line in the .vmk to have virtual hardware 9

boot it
change the language to english and then create a new user account.

log into app store and download 10.11

follow this http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

you are a cuck and you can not control your daughter, faggot

>>56303698
>controlling a teenage girl
wew lad

I'm gonna fucking defend Macs, because heck, most devs choose Mac for its UNIX based OS, usability, durability, portability, and I happen to be a dev!

>>56303668
This.

>>56303710
enjoy getting your daughter blacked

>>56303715
It's very likely his 15 year old daughter isn't a dev. She just wants a pretty facebook machine.

>>56303515
>My 15 year old daughter

I don't believe you. Enjoy your hand.

>>56303515
Does she already have a computer?
15yo is old enough to get a desktop, definitely not a laptop she will break because irresponsible 15yo is irresponsible.

>>56303761
Also I feel sorry for americans thinking its ok for a 16yo to drive a car

Madeleine McCann should be 15 by now.
Coincidence?

>>56303765
I feel sorry for foreigners who have to wait till they're 18 to drive a car.

>>56303726
>She just wants a pretty facebook machine.
No point giving her a quality machine, then.
Just some generic wanna-be will do; OP is spoiled for choice.
It's not like she'll notice the difference.

>>56303771
She'd be 13

http://www.gearbest.com/laptops/pp_356746.html

>>56303524
first post is best post.

get her a used chinkpad X250, they are extremely sexy machines

>>56303515
post pics of your daughter and i will decide which macbook is the best for her

OP is your sister cute? Have you ever smelled her panties? This is important.

>>56303515
>that bezel
is this one of these photoshopped pictures? Looks like an ipad with a keyboard.

>>56303800
16yo are irresponsible,
but then again most apericans are irresponsible.

I finally get it now.

>>56303816
Chrome book is best FB machine

>>56303868
They're responsible enough to be trusted behind the wheel. God am I glad I don't live in some fuckhead country like you do, don't know how I'd have made it to work in winter without a car.

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>>56303879
Land of the free

>>56303852
Nope, that's the real deal.
>tfw Apple had better bezels 15 years ago than they do today

>>56303902
I don't see what that has to do with 16 year olds driving.

My dad always had this way of making me stopping wanting something or even feeling guilty for pushing my parents to buy something for me by putting my "object of want" under a certain light and then asking whether I still wanted it. Most of times I changed my opinion, on rare occasions when I didn't I felt like total shit after.

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>>56303909
Forgot photo

>>56303917
Random fact. A tibook has nearly the same dimensions as a T420.

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>>56303515
Buy her a dell chromebook 13, upgrade ssd, flash a custom full bios, then install galliumos. She would be happy with it.

>>56303658
This OP. Nothing wrong with buying her one, just get a used one. Make it a point that if she keeps her grades and shit good, you will fork out the money. Its the fairest thing. Obviously don't buy her a G3 but don't drop all that money. She's still 15, she probably drinks coffee, she probably will dropped it.

Seriously OP. I won't even call you a faggot.

Buy one on eBay. She won't know the difference

>>56303515
Wow, MacBooks really have gone downhill if that's what they look like nowadays.

>>56303650
She's not going to be an entitled brat she's going to be a happy teenager. Literally everyone outgrows this attitude by the time they become an adult, it's just that while she's a teenager she's going to be pretty stupid and she's also going to really love getting a macbook. You aren't going to be teaching her core values by forcing her to concede to a thinkpad she only half wants.

>>56304032
I know plenty who haven't grown out of it.

>>56303515

> My daughter

Your first mistake m8.

>>56304032
Buying her what she wants is a horrible thing to do as a parent, she needs to understand that sometimes you have to compromise.

>>56303515
If you think it's not worth it, buy her a chromebook or an ideapad 100s instead. She'd hate a thinkpad because it's clunky and not pretty like a macbook.

TELL HER ABOUT CHROMEBOOKS.

>>56303515
Is that laptop running eOS?

Everyone talking about thinkpads and chromebooks can fuck off. His daughter probably just wants a Macbook as facebook machine to brag to her friends, and won't be happy with anything similar. Your only option is to talk with her and say that you will pay a set amount of money ($500 for example) and that she has to pay the rest, so that she can learn responsibility and rethink her choices.

>>56303515

Get her a Jumper EZbook and slap a couple of Apple stickers on it

>taking parental descision advice from imageboards

macs aren't computers they are social cool items, they are used to assert that they are a part of the in crowd. get her one of those dell pentium 4 desktop computers and her to put slackware on it. that'll be more humilliating to her than rape, probably.

>>56303515
Just get her the fucking macbook

>>56304071
Right, but why exactly would she be learning that just because daddy says "no" and she gets mad? She's not gonna reason "oh he said no, so sometimes in life you have to compromise" she's gonna think "wow my dad's a dick and this thinkpad sucks time to just spend all my time dicking around on my phone and ignoring it".

Why exactly does she have to compromise anyway? Because it's expensive? In which case let her get one but make her pay for it. If it's because it's not worth the money and is a functionally shitty laptop, that shouldn't matter because to her it is worth it (after all she literally just uses it for facebook, and she's a teenage girl so it's probably a lot more valuable to her than a neckbeards laptop).

>>56303645

you know apple is diverting all its limited manpower to iOS and mobile shit, right?

osx is even more antiquated and pathetic than iOS

>>56304068
This
Just make sure whatever other devices will werk with whatever laptop you get her. Will her iphone sync up without too much fuss, will you have to hackintosh for a better overall experience or will a chromebook have the required amount of stylishness that she won't deem you a cheap asshole face.

>>56303515
Tell her to get a job and buy shit for herself.

>>56304068
In fact, all entitled millennials I've met were macfags and borderline SJWs. You don't want that to happen to your daughter, OP.

>>56303515
> How can I sell her some other decent laptop?

What kind of a shitty kid spoiling parent are you? Just tell her no ffs. I already hate your shit daughter.

>all these faggots ITT telling OP to buy a macbook for his daughters
A sensible dad would tell his daughter to work for it to earn it.

>>56303668
Hell yeah. I was saving money for a 1000$ pc for three years and I bought it this week. I feel content.

>>56303650
weren't people always be like this? like nowadays everyone is richer so requests are bigger too

>>56304382
Better yet, let her buy it herself and buy a laptop with better specs for yourself, then proceed to point out how much better your laptop is and how she could've saved all that money if only she wasn't such a brainless sheep.

get a mac from 2009. she probably won't even be able to tell.

>>56303647
>inb4 it's OPs daughter

>>56303515
what do you care how she spends her money?

oh, it's not her money? then she gets what you choose, if she wants something specific, let her at least pay the difference

>>56303515
Ask her to list all the things she plans to do with it.
Then get her a chromebook

Just buy an used one. She'll be happy and you won't have to spend a lot of money. Both sides win

>>56303976

Correct answer. I own a G4 macbook, 2 dell lattitude d830s, and a macbook air.

They are all worthless now thanks to crap batteries and a weight and new processors.

Chromebook with linux mint is the win financially here for your wallet and her freedom. Shit by the the time she can really apreciate we will all have chips in our heads and be connected to the neural net.

I have a

>>56304544
Macbooks don't last long, a used one will have a really short lifespan.

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>>56303515
>Promise her you will get the Macbook.
>Buy pic related instead
>Post reaction

you can usually find used macbook pros for around $200

Buy a used one. The ones Apple are selling on their site haven't been updated since 2010 anyway.

Buy xiaomi mi air

Sell whatever you need to and get one from eBay or Craigslist. You will ruin her life if you don't.

not cheap, but longevity is incredible.

i'm still using my MBP from 2008, never run into any problems with it aside from battery and HDD replacement so i can guarantee these things last basically forever.

it's mostly a mobile audio and video workstation, i learned how to use final cut and logic in college and have preferred to use them ever since.

>>56303515
buy her a 1:1 replica and install hackintosh


or a thinkpad

>>56304567
Horseshit.
>>56303515
Buy her a 2013 model, they go for pretty cheap and are still very decent.

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>>56304697
>never run into any problems with it aside from battery and HDD replacement

>>56303524
/thread

>>56304740
it's an 8 year old laptop

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>>56303515
>My 15 year old daughter wants a macbook. I cant justify spending so much on a shitty facebook machine just because all her friends have one. Or is it really worth it? How can I sell her some other decent laptop?
If she wants one to fit in, likely nothing else is going to satisfy her. You could buy her something else but she's likely going to hate it and resent you for years for making her look poor in front of her peers. On the same token, at 15 she's at a good age to learn some of the adult realities of life. If you can afford to put up half for it, tell her she has to get a part time job after school or cut yards or something to make half of it and you'll pay the other half and get her a Macbook.

Or you pay for all of it and she gets a refurbished X230 (or something like that).

>>56304382
dangerous. she'd likely camwhore or even whorewhore for it.

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>>56304753
if you don't see how ridiculous that sentence was, kill yourself. actually, you're a macfag, so obviously you don't, and should kill yourself regardless

also good luck replacing that with current gen macbooks

>>56304785
>If you can afford to put up half for it, tell her she has to get a part time job after school or cut yards or something to make half of it and you'll pay the other half and get her a Macbook.
This

Don't buy her a laptop at all, make her understand that money needs to come from somewhere.

>>56304803
captain autismo shouldn't you be locked away in the crazy house? spoutin all that vitriol will never lead you to nirvana like the rest of us. i'm tryin to help you here, let go of the conspiracy theories and embrace your inner unibody

If you don't buy it for her, she'll get a bf and get him to buy it for her.

I'm assuming she's not ugly and you're not poor since all her friends have macbooks and your only reason for not buying it seems to be jewishness.

literally anything you do at this point results in your girl becoming a cumdump so do whatever i guess

>>56304869
nawalt

>>56303515
>How can I sell her some other decent laptop?
just buy her something and say this is what you get

>>56304697
>>56304740
>what is hdd crash
>what is battery memory

>>56303515
Get her a chromebook look alike

>>56304186
>She's not gonna reason "oh he said no, so sometimes in life you have to compromise"
and you can't tell her that? is this thread just b8 or are you really that fucking stupid? you're a horrible parent

Tell her to get a job and work for it OP

Until then she can have a used thinkpad

Never miss an opportunity to teach your children about money

>>56304938
that's why you buy a serviceable laptop

>>56303715
>most devs choose Mac for its UNIX based OS,
Ubuntu <3 Windows
There is no longer any valid reason to own a Mac at this point in time.

>>56304953
>you're a horrible parent

How could a man who comes to 4chan to get advice on whether or not he should buy his kid what is little more than an expensive toy a horrible parent.

Also OP, about 8% of facebook's userbase is 13-19 years old so she's most likely not going to use it for that.

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>>56303515
You're her father. You tell her it's a piece of overpriced shit designed to take advantage of technologically illiterate shitkids and if she wants one she'll have to scrounge together the money for it somehow on her own.

Why is this even a problem for you?

>>56304953
>never had to deal with kids

Those bezels make it look like a children's pretend laptop from Toys r us

>>56304998
>about 8% of facebook's userbase is 13-19 years old
i dun beleev et

>>56303715
>>UNIX based
>no standard package manager
>less packages than everything else
>shitty filesystem
>outdated versions

>>56305000
Lol your kids, if you ever have any, are going to fucking loathe you.

>>56303515
buy her some acer shitbox and tell her if she doesn't like it, she can give it back and buy her own.

>15 y/o wants a personal laptop
is this bait?

>>56305038
>no standard package manager
App store and brew work fine
>less packages than everything else
The vast majority of those packages are dogshit
>shitty filesystem
Being replaced, also I doubt you have firsthand experience with it. You probably just saw someone at /g/ mention it and added to pad your list
>outdated versions
Of what?

>>56305060
>I don't have it so I don't need it
You are mentally ill.

>>56305073
Not an argument.

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>>56305028
http://www.statista.com/statistics/187041/us-user-age-distribution-on-facebook/

It's true, and why they are resorting to shit like this lifestage app for kids that has zero privacy settings.

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-37154458

>>56305038
>no standard package manager
pkgsrc
>less packages than everything else
What are you basing this on?
>outdated versions
Of?

Buy her a Xiaomi macbook and install Hackintosh on it, she won't even know the difference

>>56303879
kys

>>56303879
By using a public transportation system that works.
:^)

>>56305150
and an apple sticker!!

>>56303515
Ask her to install Gentoo. If she succeeds, you can buy it to her.

loling at all the people saying buy it so she doesn't hate you.

What kind of faggot kid hates their parent for not buying them a toy.

>>56303715
I bet you're a webdev

>>56303658
this is good advice OP
is this for her birthday or something?
if it's just a random gift, she might become entitled if you just give it to her and don't let her work in order to buy it on her own
if it's a birthday gift and you think it's still too much, you could offer to give a contribution towards it and she pays the rest, 50/50 idk whatever you are happy with

>>56305229
node.js, maybe ruby
only contributes if code of conduct and MIT/BSD licenses

>>56305043
>Spoiling your children is a good idea
Are you retarded?

>>56305273
As expected. No wonder your opinion is shit.

>>56303524
This. However OP may already have been doing that in which case ask her to bring a friend.

>>56303515
Make her work for the damn things.

She needs to learn she just won't be handed everything in life.

>>56303515
Three options:
1. Let her earn it, make her do a parttime job, organize one for her, or at least help her get one.
This one forces her to learn real life matters, it is good.
Most women I have met are the kind who ghost someone and/or want instant gratification, so I assume she will resent you.


2. Buy her a used one, or a refurbished one.
She will resent you for not helping her be socially normal like her "friends".

3. Since she will resent you, just find her a boyfriend who will fry her brain out and make her into a mental mess, so she might even forget about what she wanted in the first place.
You need to find one who is willing to put up with her and is willing to haggle with you though.
This way, she won't be able to resent you.
So I think this is okay.

Give her a chromebook with an apple sticker. Chances are she'll never find out.

Or else you can tell her that you can pay for a reasonable computer, but if she wants premium she has to pay the extra on her own. (or just tell her to get the damn thing all on her own.)

>>56305215
My siblings are in their 20s and they still resent my mom for sending them to school with ratty clothes and being made fun of.

tell her to get a job next year (assuming 16 is the legal age to start work in your area, it might be like 14) and work for one if she wants it

>>56303515
>15 year old daughter
>wants macbook
So what's the problem? I'm sure she got a ton of money after her Confirmation or her Communion, depending on which confession you're part of.
I mean, you are Christian, right?

>>56305480
The only option is the first one. If she wants to spend a lot of effort on something she only uses as a facebook machine, let her. Don't force that choice on her, but also don't enable that level of blind consumerism just by dropping a ton of dosh because she wants something. Hell, have her come up with a plan of things that she can do to "earn" it (you don't have to, nor even really necessarily should offload the entire cost or really anything more than enough of a hunk to just make her feel it). In the mean time, if she does "need" one, offer to just get her some $100/200 facebook machine to tide her over.

>>56303515
If I were a parent I'd either buy my children a MacBook (with macOS) or a Thinkpad with Arch so they'd quickly have a glance of the cyberspace, then they could focus on their studies later (for which owning a laptop is not even useful; even for development, people learn C with a marker and a whiteboard).

My opinion is that she's 15 years old. If this MacBook costs 1000$, tell her she has until september 2017 to work for friends or relatives of your family and get 500$ so you would complete what she'd still need. Until then she'll use the home computer. Just try to make her understand that she should set an alarm to get used to stay there 1h per day and get her stuff done, then close her session. That's what I'm doing and I'm 20 years old, I'm reading books on my spare time.

>>56303800
Is it true, that in most USA famlilies parents give a car to their child, when he become 16yo?

>>56303668
This honestly.

It's one thing if it was something worthwhile. My parents bought me a saxophone at age 15 and I love it to bits.

But we are talking something only for status. She's almost old enough to get a part time job, and frankly she's at that age where she needs to learn this shit.

>>56305533
>ratty clothes
>overpriced toy

>>56303879
You can use public transport in winter. But in USA public transport is not so developed, especially in small towns. In Russia most of people get to work even in -40 using buses

>>56303515
Buy one. Tell her that she can't get an upgrade for 3 years (say it's the Apple refresh cycle). I

If it's too slow next year then too bad

>>56303771
That's nasty mate

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>>56305043
If I ever have any kids, I'll make damn sure not to respond to peer pressure. I don't need them to love me, so long as they grow up to be intelligent people with a sense of individuality.

>>56304631
> Buy xiaomi mi air
Underrated

>>56303620
Bait aside, if Android is really so superior how come an iPhone which is at the end of it's life cycle still manages to beat every Android flagship (including Note 7)? And adding to the humiliation is the fact that the iPhone has a dual core processor with half the ram Android flagships have. Imagine the potential if Apple too started cramming 8 core processors and 6 GB of ram.

>>56306054
>still manages to beat
[citation needed]

> posting it on 2 threads already
(You)

>>56306080
Kek. It honestly came up in both threads and was relevant to the discussion. Checkout the citation I posted there.

>>56303515

Buy her a thinkpad.

Post video results.

>>56306028
Your kids will have father issues and become whores/drug dealers/criminals because of you.

>>56303515
Tell her she must earn it, chores or a job or grades or something. And also mention there are other cheaper options, but if this is what she wants she just has to deserve it.

>>56303650
>happy birthday everyone

>they're all complaining about christmas gifts?

>mfw went through hs during the time iPhones became popular, just iPhone, not smartphone
>used a normal phone the entire time
>was kinda jelly of people playing good games on their iPhone
>this didn't contribute to my social standing at all

I mean, I was a bit of an outcast and not sure if this would have helped, but I sure fucking wish I didn't have to borrow their phone to try the game out.

It's up to you if you want your daughter to be at a disadvantage in high school, or a social outcast. It sure as fuck didn't help me any and I still have fucked up confidence issues at 23 because of poor parenting decisions. But I mean, a MacBook and technology is less severe compared to my scenario, that was another entirely. Point is, your daughter is most likely going to be happier if she fits in.

>>56304068

Not only do they not outgrow it, but they grow up thinking they need to have the latest overpriced junk that they have no use for and end up living in debt.

>>56305322
No, but that strawman you set up sure is.

>>56306157
So basically tell her she should become a prostitute?

>>56305043
My parents never bought me an electronic device and I have never loathed them.

Were you a single child from a rich family or something?

>>56303515
You get your kid some second hand laptop and install Ubuntu, or you get a cheap Chromebook.

Anything else is spoiling the kid.

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>>56303515
Once it's outdated you'll be able to sell it for 90% of the price. Meanwhile your shitty windows laptop will go straight to the fucking bin.
Source: Personal experience

>>56303697
>link on site with mongol runes

>>56305533
Oh, fuck your siblings then.

>>56303800
Is it true that American police raid parties to check if everyone drinking is 21 or older? We can legally buy beer at the age of 16 here. Get shit faced for 2 years while being immature and get that out of our system, then grow up and become more mature and drive cars at the age of 18.

>>56306379
>My parents never bought me an electronic device

Not even a console? Why not?

>>56306401

It is amazing how much people will pay even for decade old laptops just because it's a Mac.

I've known so many people that bought old ones just to have a Mac and paid more than I did for a windows laptop at the time that ran leagues better than their old shit.

>>56306348
Whatever floats your boat m8

>>56306286
And she'll blame the patriarchy for it.

>>56303524
First post is best post

>>56303515
I'm not a father, but if my daughter was really keen on it, I'd look at her grades and performance in education. If it's great then I'd buy it.

>>56303515
Op stop being autistic, just because you have a grudge towards Apple doesn't mean your daughter has to share that opinion. If you are about to buy her a laptop anyway stop be a dick and buy the one she likes. It is a present for her not for you.

>>56306442
not him but i got just about all my electronics myself
bought a playstation when i was 10 with pamplet run money
they did pay half of a playstation 2 for christmas though

teaching self-sufficiency is an important part of parenting

I'm always fascinated by the behavioral psychology of customers and how companies like Apple have exploited it to the point that their stuff is a status symbol. And how most women and dumb guys inherently crave their stuff and honestly believe that it is better.

>>56306405
> not being able to find download button
ХAХAХAХAХAХAХA

I'm 22 years old so I only recently grew out of being a kid.

My father never got me anything, not a cell phone, not a laptop, not anything. He had everything and if I needed to make a call he'd give me the phone for a call, if I needed to type something up for homework I'd use his laptop in front of him.

If it wasn't for him I'd never learn that you don't need anything but some food every now and then. I wouldn't be able to deal with being homeless otherwise.

When I was 18 yo I had to get away from my home because I couldn't handle authority and I just floated around for a few years, did some experimenting with sexuality and drugs but I'm doing fine now and I'm actively looking for a job.

>>56306682
I use a few apple things. I don't think they're better, but the MacBook Pro is well built, has great battery life and plays the games that I want to play pretty well.

Some years back, Apple did make superior products, but that era is long gone!

The PowerBook G4 17 was the first laptop to have a DVD-RW drive.

The Power Macintosh was actually quite the performer in the early 2000s.

Going a bit further back, the Macintosh Quadra 900 was really a beast in 1991. It was able to playback video. This was quite a feat for a consumer level computer back then.

Be glad you're not buying her handbags and shit.
It's a fashion accessory. Just get her an air, they're like $800.
But yeah, if she wants a "MacBooK" rape the little shit, I'm a total macfag but those things are fucked.
>>56304032
Teacher here, no they fucking don't. Oh god they fucking don't.
Anon-kun's got a real point there. I guess it depends on what his job is and what $1k is to him.

I bought a laptop in 2012 for $1k with a $100 warranty. It got fucked up in 2014, so I bought a macbook, with warranty. That $1k is easily gonna get me 5 years of computer, minimum.

But if op's daughter will want a new one each year then fuck that.

Just wait for Intel Apollo Lake notebooks to be available

>>56305806
mostly spoiled girls, its the same parents who will buy their kid a new iphone after they destroy the one they have on purpose.

>>56306734
They've become exactly what they once fought. They're the IBM of our generation.

>>56306731
Wait, so your father was so much of a jew you ran away from home?

Most parents aren't trying to teach their children how to survive being homeless.

should probably wait till the new MacBook comes out op your wasting your money if you buy one now.

>>56304453
You have to be 18+ to use this website.

>>56306749
> rape the little shit
>Teacher here

lol /g/

>>56306792
Entitled fuckwits are the bane of my existence.

>>56306775
He thought me how mindless consumerism can brainwash anyone into giving money to rich people and making them even richer and better than you.

>>56306734
>Some years back, Apple did make superior products, but that era is long gone!
No it isn't. The iPhone is still by far the best smartphone you can get. The iPad is still by far the best tablet you can get. The MacBook '16 has no equal in the non-Apple laptop world. Arguably some laptops exceed the rMBP in value but then you're stuck running Windows and maybe Linux which is hit-or-miss if your laptop has compatible components.

Buy her an old car and a x220 or that stupid macbook but if she choose the macbook tell she can enjoy the US transportation system until she can buy a car and since she's stupid she will getting something shitty and expensive like a mirage or the cheapest gm she can buy new.

>>56306817
I think he was referring to how Apple was at the bleeding edge many years ago. Now they're just doing the barest minimum

Just hunt around for a used first gen Air if you want something cheap and sufficiently shitty. Alternatively, pick up an X220 and follow this guide: http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/

>>56306832
She's a 15 year old American girl I'm pretty sure she already has a car. Again, the only problem OP has with this is that it's a mac. She most definitely already has an iphone.

>>56304032
This is so horribly untrue, have you never left the basement in your lifetime? While there may be some anecdotal examples, vast majority of entitled adolescent fuck-heads turn into entitled adult fuck-heads. OP is fine if she actually earned it through demonstrating she's not a spoiled little brat.

>>56306851
Apple's never been bleeding edge. They've definitely been premium, but not bleeding edge. I mean hell, they wanted shit that they knew would work.

>>56306862
So much this! I'm 27 now and I can't tell you how tired I am of dealing with entitled adults.

And you know what really winds me up?
These entitled adults have the nerve to envy those who grew up with nothing, worked hard and made something of themselves.

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>>56306883
Millennials.

>>56306434
nah police raid parties because they get noise complaints from the neighbors.

>>56306876
They have at times.

They were the first to put a dvd-rw in a laptop.

They were the first to do a portable 17 inch laptop.

The PowerMac G4 in 1999 was most impressive. Nothing from Intel/AMD/Cyrix was able to compete when it came to raw processing power.

I'm sure there are other references. But Pre-iPhone Apple did do a couple impressive things.

>>56305028
Its true. Those of us who use Facebook becuse it was the "new thing" in high school are now officially old and "out with the times" because kids use Snapchat and the like instead. Funny to think I'm old at the age of 24 but whatever, no one I know is on Snapchat.

>>56306900
>picture
wat

>>56306937
Yeah, I'm 23 and knew some sluts that sent me nudes on snapchat, but they're all growing up and in steady relationships now, so i deleted snapchat.
Guess we're getting old huh

>>56306937
>knowing people
;_;

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Just get her a chromebook or something. What does she even use her computer for other than facebook?

>>56306937
>tfw was already out of high school by the time Facebook got big
>tfw realizing just how old I am

>>56306054

show me one test with a nexus 5, running 4.4.4 as intended by the hardware manufacturer (directly from google) with shitty results

She's 15. Tell her to go fuck herself

This whole thread is cancer. I bet every single one of your would lose your spaghetti around OP's hypothetical daughter even though she's 15.

>dude buy her a used Thinkpad with Linoox

No, if OP is a good father he'll buy her a nice laptop that doesn't look like complete shit. No Dell Inspiron on HP Crapbook. A $700-$1000 laptop could easily last her until halfway through college.

>>56306817
>The iPhone is still by far the best smartphone you can get.
What a retarded blanket, everyone's use case is different. iTunes is reason enough not to have an iPhone, not to mention being being forcefully nudged to buy into Apple's restrictive closed ecosystem because iPhone only works best when you also have a Mac of some kind and maybe an iPad too. Does Apple still prevent converting music purchased through iTunes into simple mp3 files?

>>56303515
> my daughter
Uhh, she gets what she gets? Why is patenting a debate with your child?

>>56305038
>no standard package manager
Doesn't need a standard package manager to be UNIX
>less packages than everything else
Still UNIX
>shitty filesystem
Still UNIX, although this is a valid point
>outdated versions
Of what? I'm assuming GNU utilities. It's because Apple sticks with the last GPLv2 version of the utilities and just keeps patching those. They're slowly working all of the GNU shit out of the system,

>>56303515
OSX™ is the superior desktop Unix™.
Get the MacBook™ and force her to learn how to use Unix™ properly.


Seriously though MacBooks™ are pretty nice, dat touchpad.

>>56305038
muh linoox

>>56307175
Exactly this. She can get an overpriced fashion accessory laptop when she has her own money.

>>56303608
>Just get here a used one for a few hundred

Except that doesn't work. Macbooks hold their value better than gold apparently. Hell, my 6 year old MBP is still worth $600 and it cost me $1100 new back then.

>dude just buy your daughter a piece of shit

OP wants his daughter to be happy you idiots. Buying her a piece of shit that breaks all the time is counter productive.

My 25 year old daughter wants a macbook. I cant justify spending so much on a shitty facebook machine just because all her friends have one. Or is it really worth it? How can I sell her some other decent laptop?

>>56305172
no u

>>56305189
>>56305917
I live in a small city and worked in a different city, there is no public transport.
>having to use public transport
top kek

>>56305806
No. Basically everyone I know had to buy their own vehicle or just used their parents' vehicles.

>>56306434
Yes, I was actually on my way to a party that ended up getting raided a week or two ago. My friends and I were skating there and we had a few cops fly past us, when we got to the road the party was on all we saw were cherries and berries

>>56307225
Yes it does, dumbass.

>>56307264
>Yes it does, dumbass.

Yeah, if you buy something actually shit.

>>56307144
>A $700-$1000 laptop could easily last her until halfway through college.

A MacBook air would be a good $700-1000 laptop for a student in college.

OP could also look at a mid end Chromebook if she's just going to fuck around on the internet like the Dell Chromebook 13, Acer Chromebook 14, etc. With Android apps coming chrome OS might satisfy all her needs.

>>56307272
She's a fucking 15 year old girl, a C2D MacBook will be fine. Hell the Mac I'm using right now has a C2D and it's great.

>>56305533

There's a difference between giving your children decent things that are cost efficient, and giving your children worn out clothes.

>>56303515
Tell her there is absolutely no reason why she needs a $1,000 laptop to look at BBC porn and research feminism and browse reddit.

>>56307293

Better off not giving her anything than something that will make her a laughing stock.

Unless she can pull an "it's old skool" shtick.

>>56303685
that their child wants something?

Refurb Macbook Airs are a little more affordable.
http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_air/11

>>56307342
Get her an aluminium MacBook and nobody would notice the difference. She's a 15 year old girl, it's not like she's getting it to brag about the PCIe SSD and Retina screen, it's all about the brand.

>>56303722
trying to control them honestly makes it more likely that they'll get blacked out of rebellion

>>56303515
don't worry dude your daughter isn't going to do anything useful in her life anyways

>>56306860
then op can buy a x220 and buy himself a cheap sportcar like a fiero or an mr2.

>>56307230
But accordint to rossman macbooks are piece of shit.

buy an expensive thinkpad

your daughter feels appreciated but doesn't become an entitled brat

>>56303715
The OS could be fine but the hardware is still overpriced even if you include the software value.

>>56304697
If you know how to use them every laptop lasts. There is an hp laptop at my parents home that runs no problems watsoever since 2009.

>>56303515
it will last her longer than any single piece of shit windows laptop that will break in 1-2 years OP. buy her one, shut the fuck up, and it will last her through to the end of college

>>56304503
>le spec meme

>>56303835
>>>/b/

>>56303871
/thread

>>56303524
>>56303515
>>56303548
>>56303599

Someone save this as a typical /g/ picture.

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>>56308693

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make her earn that money.

how much money can a 15yr old earn.

unless she knows how to program a stupid game, she'll be out there working for Butters.

>>56303524
XD /thread

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>>56303515
Buy her an old macbook, she doesn't need new shit nor a powerful computer, she's a 15yo woman for fucks sake
don't be the typical ameridiot who helps raising Tyrones

>>56308734
thanks, it's perfect

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>>56303658
this nigga knows what's up

>>56303515
>My 15 year old daughter
Fucking oldtimers. Now all I know why you all type like manchildren in their 30s/40s.

>>56308780
>15yo woman
You sir are a retard.

mfw when I just ordered an iphone 6 last night for myself and daughter. but fuck a mac. just get a nice windows. i'm not a mac fan just like their phones.mac books are so overpriced and you can't even update or repair shit really.

>>56305060
>2 packae managers that conflict and together offer less than any Linux package manager work fine
>things I can't have are dogshit

>>56308840
Back to >>>/r/reddit

>>56304006
>Seriously OP. I won't even call you a faggot.
Let's not get carried away.

>>56305077
Yes it is, you just couldn't present a counterpoint.

>>56303524
LOL!!! Posting this on /r/4chan hahaha

>>56303515
don't be a neckbeard, just get her what she wants. she's a girl in her teens, she won't use Arch on a Thinkpad no matter how hard you try. all you will accomplish is making her look stupid infront of her friends, and in tuirn shes gonna get a black boyfriend to get back at daddy.

>>56303524
/thread

Dont ruin your daughters life OP
Get her a macbook so she'll have a decent and respectable boyfriend. You don't want to associate her with autists and poorfags who use winblows and linux

>he doesn't have a cummy money arrangement with his daugheru

>>56303515

some macbooks actually have a higher build quality than most and are powerful enough for intensive sysadmin roles, you'll see a lot of devs with 2nd hand macbooks because they're reliable and have bash essentially

>>56303620
yeh enjoy your compromised stagefright libraries and battery munching shitter phone. meanwhile apple bros up and tells the fbi to fuck off. also enjoy having to do 5 million taps to get to an app

>>56309112
>no ethernet
Yeah, perfect for sysadmin.

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>>56309112
>macshit
>built quality

Pick one.

>>56303515
Wanna break her of this? Ask her why she wants it.
If she says anything other than "I want it because of the unix environment and hardware optimization," don't give it to her.
The biggest excuse is art or music development, but if we are being honest here a windows laptop half the price or less does the job just as well.
Even if she was into film making, her most likely crap films wouldn't need a macbook with final cut optimization.
Break her, buy her an old hp workstation and make it idiot proof.
Don't let us down OP.

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>>56303524
This

>>56303524
How /g/angster of you.
>>56303515
Tell her to get a job if she wants useless technology.

>>56306028

you wont have kids

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>>56309149
bbbbut it just werks
most durable laptop for social media PROFESSIONALS

>>56303715
>most devs
>and I should know because I'M A DEV
wew nice opinionsssssssssss

>>56303715
>t. webdev

>>56306054
It doesent beat it when its less functional, you can't even download an mp3 and have it show up in the music app or torrent an album, the ultrafast CPU is pointless when all you do is Facebook/Snapchat. My $60 G2 doesent even lag with bullshit Facebook, snapchat, webbrowsing etc. on CM13

>>56306784
I am unemployed, mate

>>56306434
I'd rather drive than drink, besides I had a fake id since I was 17 that never once got denied.

>>56309300
Not him, but what's up? Did you work before and got fired? How old are you?

>>56309221
>Apple makes batteries now

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top tier bait op, 10/10

>>56309317
>source the cheapest chinkshit components you can get
>catches fire and burns customers
>continue buying cheapest chinkshit components while charging highest prices because your customers are braindead morons

>>56309356
>Sony batteries are cheap chinkshit
Yeah okay buddy

>>56309366
>a mactoddler has defended applel buying bottom of the barrel exploding batteries for 15+ years

>>56309399
>mactoddler
>applel
Found the 12 year old.

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>>56309419
>mac user
Found the 12 year old.

>>56309453
ebin

>>56309311
19 turning on 20 next month. I never worked a day in my life.

>>56309509
You poor bastard

>>56309317
They make retarded designs that don't last.

>>56309528
Okay, kid

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>>56309112

>enjoy your compromised stagefright libraries and battery munching shitter phone

oh yeah, sorry
you must have never owned a device with proper firmware actually written for the hardware it was designed for - by the people who designed the fucking device

there is nothing greater in life than a rooted nexus 5 running factory 4.4.4 images and kernel

vastly superior performance, crisp elegance, the fucking desktop wallpaper and stock icons look beautiful
and i just finished configuring tincore for my moga pocket.
its fucking amazing. i can play any android game with this brilliant portable gamepad which fits in my pocket by mapping touch areas to analog sticks.
you have no fucking idea how awesome this is, and how much haxx0r work was involved in achieving this.

>>56303515
If she's tech illiterate, just buy a used one. Otherwise she'll be bugging you or some random guy for tech support.

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>>56303515
>buy an old thinkpad
>burn gentoo to a cd
>get a macbook box
>put Thinkpad in the box
>she opens it when all her friends are watching
>she gets humiliated
>she kills herself after posting it on facebook the 100th time
>you have a cool thinkpad and no daughter to worry about

>>56303715
Why is a neckbeard comparing himself to a prolly popular kid since she at least tries to fit in

>>56309524
I am studying history at the university in croatia. I live on 40$/month allowance

>>56309601
>history major
>$40/mo
>Croatia
You poor bastard

>>56306943
This, I thought torn jeans were bad.

>>56303524
I confirm this works

>>56306900
Unless you're over 30, you're lumped in with millennials as well.

>>56309613
it can't possibly be real
i mean, a worn look is one thing, actually worn is another, dirt and scuff marks is just side-of-the-road tier and .. duct tape? straight up hobo tier
also, $600 for shoes? lel

>>56309624
30? No, try 35.

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>>56309544
>>56309624
I'm 31.

>>56310096
And you are a millennial who, as usual, is incapable of spelling millennial.

>>56310096
>millennial ripping on millennials
>31 years old and can't even spell
top kek

>>56303515
>>56303524
/g/ in a nutshell

>>56303601
brb dying

>>56310129
>>56310138
it's millénaire in French
but I'll give you that one, burgers

>>56309509
lol are u me? same age but in albania so shit country too and i saved 1000 euro for 2-3 years now. My parents gave me 700 more though as an early birthday present (had to order now my laptop broke) the parts havent come yet because 1 part was missing and they ordered it online instead of telling me to pick smth else in stock. fuckin greeks wasting my vacation time.

>>56309643
600$ for shoes isnt bad if you know what youre buying like quality leather boots (viberg etc) and shit

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>>56306900
>>56306883
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ

>mfw btfo u old faggot

>>56309612
It's okay. I don't want to be rich anyway. I am saving money for a farm in a village so I could grow homemade food.

>>56310184
I know how it is. The rest of the world wants us to live in a shithole where it's cheaper to buy drugs than technology.

>>56303515
Have a rMBP15, and I'll never go back to windos based systems as my main machine. Shit's great. That said, for your average facebooking teen an iPad with keyboard or a simple laptop would suffice. If you have the money: go on and make your kid very happy. If not, go on and make her less happy.

>>56303515
Sell her some shame, maybe she can lose the autism and stop trying to be like the others

>>56303620
>payed

I learned English. Why can't the authors of those things??

>>56303868
Most 18yo are irresponsible too. By your logic, people shouldn't be allowed to drive until they're 25, because that's when the frontal lobe (where decision making happens) is fully developed.

>>56303515
Don't teach your kids to be consumers, teach your kids to never settle for the life in the haunted mall. There is a way out of this cultural nightmare.

>>56303620
Those themes all look like hot garbage.

>>56306405
use chrome/chromium for the google translate feature m8.

>>56306054
I don't know, probably because iPhones have historically been more (((popular))) among the younger generation

>>56303515
Threads already autosaging so it's not like anyone will see this, but I'll post it anyways.

>I cant justify spending so much on a shitty facebook machine just because all her friends have one.
Make her research the Macbook and the other options on the market, then have her explain to you why she needs the hardware that the Macbook has over less expensive options for what she will be using the laptop for. She won't be able to convince you that she needs it in the end but she might get a better understanding of what she actually needs and decide that she might be better off with something else (at least a boy might, don't really know about raising girls).

>>56303524
FPBP

>negotiating with your daughter on something you don't agree with

I can tell you're a shitty dad already.
Among the teens nowdays, it's more than a FB machine. It's also a status trophy, imagine getting her a thinkpad, she's not gonna want to bring it to school or anything cause she might get teased from her friends or even worse, bullied.
It's like you live under a rock or something, its 2k16 and you think people buy something just for it's usage, there is a social image tied to everything now man.
I hope she sends you to a 'practical' retirement home that only has a bed, desk, chair and feeds you 3 meals a day and thats all. You don't need a pretty garden / spacious room to sleep in / fancy meals in your retirement home.
have fun being 'the best dad' to your daughter

>>56312748
That's why I intend not to go to a retirement home in the first place.