Why use a VM?

>>56298045
Datacenters, servers, studying purposes.

>>56298092
>Datacenters, servers, studying purposes.
This.
/thread

Running Windows on my Linux dev machine so I can extract libraries from proprietary IDE's like Atmel Studio and Code Composer Studio.

to run suspicious software
browse porn with no adblocker

running Office 16 in Linux.

browsing dangerous websites
watching dangerous videos
testing dangerous files
developing stuff for different platforms
pretending i'm getting work done

>>56298045
I run my home server in a VM on my workstation.

>>56298207
>browse porn with no adblocker
why would you do this

I have to use a XP virtual machine because my scanner has no windows 7 drivers. canon sucks dicks.

>>56298045

Work. Namely as sandboxed VPN client and for software that isn't available on Linux -- see: MS Office.

>>56298532
Why is everyone assuming that the your data is isolated from danger just because you're using a VM?

>>56298749
because it is?

>>56298749
Because if you're not an incompetent cuck, your VM won't have any way to interact with its host machine.

>>56299160
What does being a cuck have to do with your ability to properly configure a virtual machine?

>>56299242
it's too hard to configure a .vmx file while watching your wife get fucked by a grizzly bear.

Running Windows software here and there and trying out different operating systems. When I build my next computer I'm replacing my desktop with a VM server

sony is retarded so i need to use a windows vm to upgrade my camera's firmware

>>56298092
why not just use a dedicated machine though? With no hypervisor?

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>>56298045
I use mine for Windows

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I use mine for learning how to GNU/Linux and to dick around with NeXTSTEP.

>>56298565
>>browse porn with no adblocker
>why would you do this
>in a VM

get off /g/ if you really can't figure out why you would do this.

>>56298749

please explain why it wouldn't be?

>>56299531
What DE is this?

>>56299628
>browsing porn without an adblocker
>at all
Why would you do this at all, even in a VM ?
Ads on porn sites are almost always obtrusive pieces of shit and/or popups, why would you willingly subject yourself to this type of annoyances while watching porn ?

>>56298045

I use it to keep my client data separated. I can have multiple vm's up and work on multiple things without having to keep several PC's up. Running ESXi on an old dual quad core DL380 G5 w/32GB RAM and about 1TB of RAID5 local storage.

>>56299667

because you can. Personally I use NoScript. It's annoying as shit to keep having to unblock urls trying to figure out which one is the right one to allow the video to start playing.

>>56298045
seedbox & plex

>>56298749
Smart anon here.

>>56299734
You can also just use an adblocker like ublock origin. In your VM.
Alternatively, you can stop using shady ass sites.

>>56298045
I dont use one, I just use GNU as my main daily driver

>>56300106
You mean Linux.

>>56300123
Linux is a kernel.

>>56298045
I use Windows in a virtual machine with GPU passthrough so I can play muh gaymes.

Works surprisingly well if you've got the hardware.

>>56300165
And GNU is a set of utilities.
Do you run these utilities without a kernel ?

>>56298045
Testing windows updates before I actually install them, learning the ins and outs of various windows versions, testing features in MDT\WDS so I can put them into production in work

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>>56300268
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>>56298045
x86 Slowlaris 10 virtualizes much better than it runs on bare metal when it comes to laptops

>>56300123
No I mean GNU

>>56300165
It's also the term used for operating systems based on said kernel.

>>56300350
Pretty sure you meant Linux.

>>56300220
GNU is actually an entire Operating System as defined by POSIX, just the whole thing isn't used generally, generally it is used on combination with the Linux kernel, the absolutely most precise way to sayvit is GNU/Linux but if you are just generalizing and wanna get straight to the point GNU is what you say, BSD users call it GNU because they recognize that a kernel is a kernel, and most of the OS is comprised of the massive GNU userland, Linux is just one part, of course one would make the argument "FREEDESKTOP SYSTEMD LOL EXTRA STUFF" But we are referring to the OS not the extra stuff that runs on top of the OS like Wayland, X, etc. just the OS itself, so in more professional situations I refer to it as GNU/Linux but overall I say GNU as that is the Operating system.
>inb4 naming controversy war
pls no

>>56298198
my nigga. have you posted anything? fucking CCS only has support for my tiMSP430 on windows

>>56300525
Nice copypasta, faggot.

>>56300560
did you even read it? It's my own writing, maybe the POSIX and as defined by made you think LOL STALLMAN COPYPASTA, but I advise you to use your big boy brain and actually read

>>56300566
I've read shit just like it far too many times. It's Linux.

>>56300574
no that is factually wrong you tard, Linux is a kernel, a kernel does not equate to an entire operating system, GNU is the system

>>56298045
>I use mine for porn
This won't stop the feds, sick pedo.

>>56298706
use the TWAIN shit with the 32bit version of Photoshop, it works fine.
>source I have a stupid Canon Scanner

Running stuff like
-Software that may be a virus
-Browsing deep/dark web
-running different OS's than my host OS
-running servers
-running a PokeVision mirror

For VS on my rMBP.

>>56300604
ubuntu is operating systm

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>>56301225
this. cannot wait until i'm done with that gay class.

>tfw not going to a uni that uses a platform agnostic language or dev environment

>>56301301
You know I meant visual studio right? What class are you talking about?

>>56301414
i'm forced to use VS on my rMBP. I'm used to Xcode because it's literally better.

>>56301426
Ah mine is a work laptop so I'm forced to use VS as we use TFS integration too.

>>56298532
>watching dangerous videos
link?

>>56299657
Looks like xfce, fampai. Custom themes are your friends.

>>56300268
>>56300273
Very practical, anon. I like it.

>>56299531
I wish someone makes chicago95 for qt/kwin. I just can't deal with no functionality in the wm.

>>56300604
Linux is the term used when discussing operating systems based on the aforementioned kernel.

Mostly this.

>>56298045
old scanner with only 32bit drivers. install 32bit os into vm and got it working again.

>>56298045
Gaming.
And >>56298092

>>56298045
General computing. Most of what I do, I do in my Linux VM. But for audio production I use my Windows host.

>>56303089
Why not vice versa?

>>56298045
Gaming.

>>56303214
For most stuff, the virtual machine performance is plenty, but for audio production I want full performance. Also, hardware.

>>56299486
I had to emulate a full vSphere environment for college. That's at least 5 machines. Most people probably don't have 5 spare machines lying around (at least I didn't) so that's where the VM's come in.

>>56298045
everyday live. xen hypervisor, debian dom0. pci-passthrough masterrace.

I use one for Japanese porn games

>>56298045
To able to use Visual Studio and Xamarin Forms

>>56300324
COMFY

Sandbox, VPN, MS Office (rarely), for when I let other people use a computer of mine.

Building a monstrosity atm, when it's done there'll be (among others):
2 virtual servers (websites, VPN server, Minecraft, TS, etc)
4 VMs to rdp into for gaming
1 VM for my daily use
1 VM to handle data flow in "my" networks (every network I have a device in permanently)
Going to set up more when needed

Dev environments with Vagrant.

Why use a VM over dual-booting if you want to play vidya?

>>56303519
Why dualboot if you can use a VM?

>>56303536
When you are running things not in a VM it is faster isn't it?

>>56303543
If your hardware supports virtualization and you use PCIe passthrough the difference is negligible. My first gaming PC is going to be a VM server.

Do I need a GPU on a headless server if I want to virtualize a graphical operating system?

>>56299657
>>56301510
It's OpenBox + LXPanel

>>56301844
Only features I miss from Wondows that aren't in OB is tile snapping. Otherwise, whay's missing?

>>56298485
>not using libre office
shiggy diggy

>>56299062
>>56299646
No, it can easily leak out by exploiting vulnerabilities and infect the host.

>>56298045
Needing to use a virtual machine for porn

What? I use mine to run windows just in case I ever need it, but I don't actually have any use for it yet.

>>56299160
Virtualisation =/= isolation. If a hacker wanted to get to you via the virtual machine you're running, he easily could since most virtual machines need and use permissions to access the host's files.

>>56303921
>since most virtual machines need and use permissions to access the host's files
No they don't.

>>56303939
Yes they do. VMware needs permissions in order to access and move your files from the VM and the host machine. This can be easily exploitable, and this is just one example, there are more examples out there. This is why virtualisation is not an actual security feature, it's a nice convenient feature, but it's not secure.

>>56301495
https://youtu.be/-AlmT3dK-bw

>>56303950
>VMware needs permissions in order to access and move your files from the VM and the host machine
You can simply not do that, you fucking retard.

>>56303958
It's not an option, it needs to you moronic imbecile. It needs to use some of your files to actually run the virtual machine you colossal cock eating faggot.

I'm using a VM to have Windows in case I have to use some Windows-only crapware.
Al;so recently I made an Arch VM to learn and test luks+btrfs setup.

>>56303968
I thought you meant for like once the machine's running and you want to transfer files between the VM and host

I use KVM on Linux or bhyve on FreeBSD as a development server which resembles a production server.

>>56303984
There's also that, but that's an optional feature. Overall virtual machine software can be exploited and a hacker can, if he wanted to, infect your host machine through your virtual machine if he knows how. Which again, goes back to what I originally meant, virtualisation is not isolation.

Setup and test development environments. Sometimes I only need to use a tool for a single project which I don't need for another. This way I can keep environments independent and unbloated.
Test multiple Linux distros before completely installing them on the real machine.
Running obscure Japanese games which need Windows in Japanese locale. It's annoying to keep switching locales in a real computer, and I don't want to unstabilize the host with shitty programs.

>>56304004
virtualisation can be isolation. not every vm needs access the hosts FS, though the FS is most often not the security factor.

>>56298045
I run a few pokemon go bots, on a win 10 wm.
And I have some other vms set up to use certain files that could be a bit risky

>>56303437
>gaming over rdp
what? how? rdp uses its own shitty display

I use mine for lightweight gaming (heavyweight is completely useless due to overheads) and installing dodgy software.

Do you guys prefer VirtualBox over VMWare? Or even something else

>>56306023
qemu + kvm

I use it for Teamviewer, so i can keep resetting the mac address and the drive ID to get a new Teamviewer ID. Costs too much to buy, and some of my clients use it.
Also a Lubuntu VM for torrenting.

>>56306083
Does it run Windows better than VMWare?

Test/learning/studying purposes.

>>56298045
using legacy software that aren't supported anymore on recent OSes

>>56298045

Client where I worked got ransomware, used a vM for paying the ransom and downloading the decryptor before bringing it to their environment.

>>56298045
>porn
>containment of files
>testing environments
>windows 7 because Ive been too lazy to convert over programs I made and use regularly to use linux libraries
>other windows specific programs that are not developed for linux
>to use teamviewer because Im not going to wreck my shit just to help someone else whos already wrecked theirs.
>to run vmware in windows because it just werks there
>android os
>and various other reasons that are not good enough to remember right now

>>56298045
yuck icky mac

>>56303950

maybe the shit-tier desktop VMWare, but I run ESXi on a server (>>56299710) as I would figure most of /g/ would so there's simply no way of any of this happens to me. (actually, I'd figure most of /g/ would be running KVM on some random Linux distro)

>>56303779

...define easily

>>56303913
Browsing/downloading porn videos and games may get me viruses. If I keep it in a Linux VM, I don't have to worry.

>>56306134
You get what you pay for. Virtualbox is a toy for hobbyists to tinker with. VMWare is used in enterprise environments. VBox is a toy in comparison.

>>56306865
Out of the box.

>>56307373
You should reread what he's asking. It's not VMWare vs VBox.

>>56306793
Spotted the 12 year old.

>>56307581
Leave him alone, hes on the right path.

Accessing payr

>>56306846
>I dont know what VMware Tools is
stay retarded anon

Test OSs, virus, suspicious software. The normal stuff.

>>56298045
install gentoo

>>56307389
cool, hack my vm faggot

>>56298092
TempleOS