Vega delayed from Q1 2017 to H1 2017

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>>56294772
DELETE THIS

AHAHAHAHAHA

AMD FINISHED AND BANKRUPT

Nothing new

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guess I am an intelectual from now

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>>56294772
>will not launch sooner than first half of 2017
>this preliminary date may still change
Wait for it.
>mfw nvidia releases Volta sooner

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>inb4 490
The RX480 was the biggest Polaris chip and a lot of rumors say the ''490'' can only be a dual gpu if AMD launch it

>inb4 fury x
The 4GB in a high end card is a big problem for the future.

>>56294772
first half means q1 or q2
now fuck off back to /v/

/thread

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>>56294947
490 is probably vega, not polaris senpai

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>>56294983
>b-but vega is ready for launch in October
>yfw

>>56294983
>You can find the following slides in the latest presentation for AMD investors.
>Those slide confirm that vega WILL NOT launch sooner than first half of 2017

>>56294772
maybe its still too new. they have to wait because they dont want sell too good things.

>>56294983
Read the news Kevin...

>>56294947
the 390/290 beat the 480 on some games cause it's equivalent to a more efficient 280/380

the 490 is coming by christmas nvidiot

>>56295046
Consumers will wait for AMD, I'm sure about it. The amount of amdrones who will wait is neglible compared to the whole market. Nvidia will just gain more market.

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>>56294772
>Oh, wow it's fucking nothing
The October launch rumor was always just that, a rumor. They're right on schedule.

>>56294947
>for the future
ROTTR at 4K literally uses all 8GB on my 1080s and I don't even have AA enabled or absolutely everything maxed. 4GB is a problem right now.

>>56294772
>Vega delayed from Q1 2017

Could you link to where AMD previously stated that it was coming in Q1 2017? Thanks senpai, I know you have my back.

>>56295070
>the 490 is coming by christmas nvidiot

[CITATION]

>>56294947

both DOOM and deus ex: mankind divided both say you can't run the highest settings unless you have >4GB VRAM

it already is a problem

>>56295070
What is the ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''490''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''?

>>56295114
They never said that, they released a roadmap image that had Vega in early 2017 and people just started assuming shit.

>14 year olds just now realizing that rooting for the underdog is pointless

>>56295132
Maxed DOOM at 4K uses >5GB, so yeah.

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>>56295135
even amdrones can't tell you

When I die, I want AMD to lower my casket. That way they can let me down one last time.

>>56294772
>unironically posting currytech """"rumors"""
>actually believing those """"""""rumors""""""""
>being dissapoint because obvious fake rumors were fake
Fuck you niggers, you keep on overhyping products to retarded levels and then complain because it wasn't true.

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WAITFAGS BTFO

>>56295323
Better kill yourself now because AMD won't last long enough to honour your last wish.

>>56295360
https://app.scoutfin.com/document.html?id=57c01d11fcd1d0bb759fd048&_branch_match_id=297670879870932296

>>56295414
Yes nigger, I'm talking about the retards that keep on saying that Vega will be released in november/december or Q1 2017.

>>56294772
for fuck's sake...I hope my Fury X pump lasts until then, every once and awhile it starts whining and shit

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There is no need to be mad. xD

YES YES YES YES! FUCK AMD I HPOE THEY FUCKING DIE ALREADY

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>just wait for vega
>it's here on Christmas
>it will BTFO 1080
When will they ever learn

Any bad news for AMD is good news for us /g/entlemen, soon the bubble will burst and AMD will drop to $1 a share and be bought out.

Without competition Intel will do whatever it wants with prices.

>>56295532
And then you woke up from your long decade old dream of AMD dying every year.

Don't you feel pity for me for having to listen to your kind for 10 years?
It's like a eternally shitfaced person trying to sell me on the notion that the moon is flat.

>>56295532
>AMD will drop to $1 a share and be bought out
Nah it will drop a lot then they will hype up some new card which again will have a ridiculous flaw like the 480's power draw and continue the cycle of hype-letdown.

>>56295556
>amd
>competition
>this decade
Good one

>>56295532
hopefully they go bankrupt. they're nothing but a cancer in this industry with their senior people always blaming other companies for everything instead of blaming themselves. hopefully samsung or ibm buy them out.

stop making these retarded graphics card threads

>>56295568
But that drop never happened.

Learn to stock market, investors don't care about shit you care.

>>56295556
Don't Intel and Nvidia already do pretty much whatever they want with prices?

That kind of sucks, but it gives me more time to save up i guess. I'm not even sure if i'll get vega, because ultimately it depends how it benches against the 1070 in terms of both cost and performance.

I guess a positive way to look at this is AMD avoiding a paper launch and if it had issues, it's actively fixing them.

Almost tempting to pick up a 470 for under 200 and sell it in a few months at this point though.

Am I the only one who wants AMD to die so badly? Imagine without them annoying Intel what kind of amazing CPUs we'd have...

>>56295595
For years. Especially the CPU department. You can't call competition something that has 10% marketshare.

>>56295098
Not unless they sell their shit when Nvidia starts releasing

By the time Vega comes out AMD will [spoiler]still not have fixed the cursor glitch.[/spoiler]

>>56295621
This! Intel and Nvidia would work together then and made much faster chips together for a single hardware optimized OS.

AMD ruins everything

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

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>this thread

>>56295621
Intel would make even smaller generational improvements than they have been. The last time they made a fantastic leap was with Sandy Bridge. You know why that is? It's because they don't need to. It's because without competition, they can be lazy. AMD being around forces Intel to improve. I want AMD to be competitive so that the industry as a whole can move forward.

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>>56295070
>the 490 is coming by christmas nvidiot

>>56295714
>he believes this nonsense


KEK, Intel has much faster CPUs stashed away

>>56295710
>inEliTE was right all along.

>>56295734
Probably. But they have no need to release them, because they can already charge (almost) whatever the fuck they want for what we're already getting.

Nice, AMD's death is truly imminint now

>>56295710
>tfw IN Elite will never shitpost again

>>56294772

The only thing delayed is your emotional and intellectual development.

>>56295710

Is that a fucking woods crew? Lmao

>>56295710
Newfags can only weep that they've missed /g/ during fermi launch.

>This is the latest information coming directly from AMD about VEGA architecture. Apparently the rumors that the launch of VEGA architecture might have been pushed forward were not entirely correct.

WOW
IT'S
NOTHING

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>>56294772

Vega trades blows with the 1080?

>AMD makes Pascal competitor
>Nvidia releases Volta and leaves them in the dust

AMLate to the competition

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>>56296109
AMD is already 1 gen behind nvidia and 5 years behind intel which aren't even trying.

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>inferior product
>later
>higher price
why do we even bother with amd? like, ever?

>>56296300
I haven't for years now.

Ditched AMD, never looked back. Everything they make is just inferior.

>>56295098
They would not have to if crypto mining wasnt hitting supplies and prices before the cards even hit the stores.

I don't mind waiting until Q3 2017 at least I'll be able to play games at Christmas when it is released in Q4 2017.

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>tfw you bought into the FreeSync meme the same year AMD decides to stop being competitive

>>56296623
Buddy, I think your facts are a little out of date. No serious crypto miners have used GPUs for a few years now. They've all moved on to ASIC cards.

>>56294772
>delayed from Q1 to H1
Are you literally retarded?
H1 includes Q1.

>>56298950
Thats for SHA 256 mining. Many altcoins still use GPU's

>>56299001
Which means really, it's being moved to Q2 with a spin being put on the wording to soften the blow.

>>56299001

H1 has always been marketing doublespeak for Q2.

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>>56294884
And volta will no doubt have proper async support. Now if only they had freesync support.

>>56299104
>gpu mining
>2016
grandpa pls

if volta has real async support then amd is finished if Zen is anything short of incredible

>>56296180

>Intel makes a GPU 5 years ahead of AMD and 4 years ahead of Nvidia

>>56299184
>What is ethereum
retard please

>>56299180

>freesync
>good

Open solutions are never as good as Nvidia's proprietary solution.

>>56294772
The hell is 1h?
when the fuck was Vega supposed to come out Q1?

>>56295024
>believing wccf clickb8
Why can't shills just fuck off?
>>56298950
>Buddy, I think your facts are a little out of date. No serious crypto miners have used GPUs for a few years now. They've all moved on to ASIC cards.
Which soon were completely consumed by the chinks
All the serious miners who aren't chinks or have free electricity mine random memecoins to pump&dump
>>56295109
>They're right on schedule.
This, the only thing that AMD has delayed in the last two years is the Radeon Pro Duo, everything else has been on perfect schedule
>>56295748
You started posting last year, fuck off trying to fit in
>>56299328
>when the fuck was Vega supposed to come out Q1?
Sometime in 2017

>>56299194
AMD is already getting enterprise sales wins(the only market that really matters for them) for Zen based parts.
Its not a matter of *if* Zen is good, its only a matter of how much GloFo and Samsung can produce, and if AMD can price them attractively enough to stop anyone from buying new 24c Xeons.
Their 32c/64t chip coming in at 180w is an absolute fucking beast, and the competition is over $7,000. AMD's MCM approach means that production cost is significantly lower than intel's for a chip with more throughput. They're offering twice the memory channels as well.

>>56299328
First half of the fiscal year.

>>56299180

>AMD spent 6 years of their R&D budget making this animation

>>56299376
>AMD is already getting enterprise sales wins(the only market that really matters for them) for Zen based parts.

[Citation Needed]

>>56299456
Google it. I'm not spoonfeeding you news headlines because you live under a rock.

>>56299474
>Makes a claim
>Refuses to back it
>Uses spoonfeeding meme to cover his tracks

AMD shills at their finest.

>>56299299

Except that Freesync is just as good, more widely available, and at little to no premium. Any differences are hardly perceivable.

>>56299503
>Freesync is just as good

Until you fall outside the window of frame rate where it actually works, which varies wildly between manufacturers and models.

my bulldozer cpu will last to 2020. I'm good /g/

>>56299478
Expecting a source for everything said on 4chan is ridiculous. You know that, right? This isn't a formal debate forum.

>>56294799
>>56294831
>>56294832
>>56294834
>>56294848
well apparently, samefagging in your shitty thread to bump it until it catches on actually works.

>>56299836
Look the times newfag

>tfw nvidia 2080 will be released before this

>>56300421
>1180

FTFY

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Obviously AMD made an RX480 PCIe burning level mistake with Vega and doesnt know when theyll have it fixed

>>56300803

Vega is just a scaled up version of the poolaris design. Expect Vega to be dogshit even if AMD does everything right. They'll have previous gen perf/watt and slower than gtx1080 perf on a ~500mm2 die.

>>56299503
>just as good
>doesn't work in borderless window
>no standardized controller in the monitor

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>>56300847
Poolaris doesnt have HBM2, Vega will, that already lowers the power use a lot.

>>56300883
then play in fullscreen
that or pay $200 extra

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>>56300936
not him but...

>>56299299
>shilling this hard

How can Freesync be just as good when you cant use Nvidia hardware with it?

You expect your little poo-in-gpu to run games in 1440p 144hz?

>>56300936

HBM2 is clocked higher than HBM1. There won't be as much 'saved' power from it this time around.

This also ignores the fact that AMD's architecture itself is bad too:

gtx1060 = 55.2 fps / 200mm2 = 0.276 perf/mm2
gtx1080 = 91.6 fps / 314mm2 = 0.291 perf/mm2
rx480 = 49.5 fps / 232mm2 = 0.213 perf/mm2

gtx1060 is ~29% better perf/mm2
gtx1080 is ~36% better perf/mm2

AMD would have to make a 30% larger die just to compete with the equivalent nvidia GPU, meaning they'd have to build a ~400mm2 die to compete with the 1080 and a ~620mm2 die to compete with the titan xp. Meanwhile NVIDIA could just '''refresh''' their lineup with new, larger dies and still maintain a huge performance advantage.

>>56301020
All while having 0 hardware support for Async :^)

>>56301032

'muh async' isn't gonna mean shit if nvidia ends up being the only viable brand to buy from.

>>56299299
>the VESA standard is somehow worse than the nvidia solution that requires a additional board to function

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>>56301042
Its like saying your car gets more mpg because you cut out part of the fucking engine. Nvidia cannot compute for shit.
Also AMD is regaining marketshare since Poolaris.

>>56301075
>Also AMD is regaining marketshare since Poolaris.

you mean consistently losing market share?

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/

>>56301108
Polaris cards arent even on there
also
>you can just choose not to take the survey
How does this accurately represent anything?

>>56301108
>thinking muh video gaymes platform run by a fat kike is a valid source
http://wccftech.com/amd-takes-graphics-share-nvidia-fourth-consecutive-quarter/
>inb4 currytech
its just a repost like everything else on currytech and the original source is mercury research

>>56301075
correction, amd has been gaining marketshare since nvidias 3.5 vram shit

>>56301173
>How does this accurately represent anything?

learn how statistics work. you only need a small sample of the population to figure out what the majority has.

>>56301184
>currytech

that 'market share' is the share of how many cards were shipped that quarter, not overall market share. NVIDIA still maintains >75% market share in gaming.

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>>56301184
>>56301214
Both are right

http://www.hardware.fr/news/14755/amd-continue-gagner-parts-marche-gpu.html

http://mercuryresearch.com/graphics-pr-2016-q3.pdf

>>56301214
>learn how statistics work. you only need a small sample of the population to figure out what the majority has.

Thats only if you actually pick out a random sample. This is about as statistically accurate as a telephone survey.

Go back to school nigga.

>>56301214
>(((Nvidia))) merchant is in so much denial that he has to rationalize how (((nvidia))) hasn't been losing marketshare for about a year straight
wew lad try harder (((nvidia))) merchant

>>56301248
>Thats only if you actually pick out a random sample.

that's literally what it is. they're randomly picking hundreds of thousands of people out of the ~125mil steam userbase.

the steam hardware survey is pretty much the best source of data for this that we have since neither nvidia/amd release raw numbers and most retailers aren't either.

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>>56301268
They're not picking people out, you're asked if you want to do the survey or not when you start Steam.

>>56301280
>They're not picking people out, you're asked if you want to do the survey or not when you start Steam.

no, all that means is that you were picked for the survey that month and it gives you an option to decline. not every user gets picked each month.

>>56301280
that second part contradicts the first one dumb frogposter

>>56301292
The option to deny can already skew the results, most of those randomly chosen could've decided just not to respond.

But let me get back to my first point, the survey doesn't even include Polaris GPUs.

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>>56294772

AYYYMD DEAD AND BANKRUPT

Whatever happened to /g/ rooting for the underdog and buying a few AMD products here and there to.. i dunno, feel better about themselves for supporting the "rogue" company taking on intel and nvidia at a tenth of their resources.

Maybe i'm a little naive, but thats why i still buy AMD. And if Zen delivers i might just go back to them for CPUs too.

>>56294772
>u sold you stock of amd on friday


feels good

>>56302234
>supporting a corp
For 15 fucking years ATi/AMD can't write a fucking working OGL driver even if their life depends on it. Fuck them in their stupid faces. I buy what covers my needs and I'm not a fucking charity for corporations.

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>>56301234

FOR FUCK SAKE ANON READ THE METHODOLGY. This sets my sutism off as mercury research normalises their data - its not absolute values.

John peddie report shit as it happened (which includes seasonal spikes - something that mercury cover up). http://jonpeddie.com/publications/add-in-board-report/

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>>56302234
>pleeeeease :3