/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

On Xfce, if I bind only Super to a command all other commands that use Super+key can no longer be used. Is there a way around this?

>>56278575
Use Ctrl+Shift for your custom command, or rebind all other Super commands to use Ctrl+Shift instead.

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Install Gentoo

>>56278575
I believe it's because Super is read as a modifier key or some dumb bullshit like that.

In KDE you could get around it with a package called Ksuperkey which remapped Super to alt+F1. Maybe look into doing something like that.


Here's ksuperwin for reference: https://github.com/hanschen/ksuperkey

>>56278663
Do admins actually stand next to the server rack with their laptop? Why?

Learn bash in 10 minutes.
http://homepage.smc.edu/morgan_david/cs41/bash.txt

>>56278634
>>56278670
Alright. Tried Ctrl+Shift and it's comfy.

>>56278711
He is connected directly into the server to perhaps do maintenance?

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Anyone have any idea how to change dconf settings for other existing users?

I've tried using 'runuser' with the login command and appropriate gsettings option but I'm getting a "failed to commit changes to dconf error":

sudo runuser -l  username -c 'gsettings set org.mate.media-handling automount false

>>56278711
>he doesn't check his server's pulse

>>56278781
As if anyone would stand up for that

How hard would it be to achieve something like this in ubuntu linux?

>wait for the linux to boot up fully
>wait 10 seconds
>execute given command line as root

should i stick with xterm
it seems copying and pasting from it is kind of a drag

>>56278891
Not very.

>>56278891
On cinnamon:
go to autostart settings
add new program
enter "gksu [your terminal]"
enter "10" in the delay box

>>56278894
xterm has drag and drop support now?

>>56278942
not that i can tell, you can copy using shift+insert but it pastes the text in terminal again instantly

>>56278887
>oi we've just slid fooserver into the rack but it isn't getting a network connection, wanna take a look at that?
>arright, let me grab this laptop and do the patchcord switcheroo, if i can open a pizza site with the same patchcord then it's just a problem with fooserver

>install slackware
>decide to optout of KDE package
>go to open a file
>fuck, I don't have ARK
>download ARK package
>installs fine. doesn't work though.


How the fuck do I get the installation package of KDE so I can use ARK.

Or what alternative can I use that opens everything?


>inb4 install gentoo

fglrx or radeon for HD6950. I highly doubt this will ever get AMDGPU support

>>56279075
peazip, file roller

>>56279080
radeon is very good now. fglx is hot garbage and has no support any longer anyway since they're focusing completely on AMDGPUPRO.

I use radeon driver and I can play WoW in wine and all the games on steam that aren't nvidia only. No performance issues whatsoever. No alien isolation or middle earth shadows of mordor, though. But that wouldn't work on fglrx either.

>>56279075

# config
DEFAULT_TARGET="."

SCRIPTNAME="${0##*/}"

err() {
    printf >&2 "$SCRIPTNAME: $*\n"
    exit 1
}

ARC="$1"
[[ -f $ARC ]] || err $"'$ARC' does not exist"
ARC="$(readlink -f "$ARC")"

read -p "Extract to [default: $DEFAULT_TARGET]: " TARGET
[[ -z $TARGET ]] &&\
    TARGET="$DEFAULT_TARGET"
[[ -d $TARGET ]] || err $"Directory '$TARGET' does not exist"
[[ -w $TARGET ]] || err $"Permission denied: '$TARGET' is not writable"

cd "$TARGET"
case "$ARC" in
    *.tar.bz2)   tar xjf "$ARC"     ;;
    *.tar.gz)    tar xzf "$ARC"     ;;
    *.bz2)       bunzip2 "$ARC"     ;;
    *.rar)       unrar e "$ARC"     ;;
    *.gz)        gunzip "$ARC"      ;;
    *.tar)       tar xf "$ARC"      ;;
    *.tbz2)      tar xjf "$ARC"     ;;
    *.tgz)       tar xzf "$ARC"     ;;
    *.zip)       unzip "$ARC"       ;;
    *.Z)         uncompress "$ARC"  ;;
    *.7z)        7z x "$ARC"        ;;
    *)           echo "'$ARC' cannot be extracted by $SCRIPTNAME" ;;
esac

>>56279115
I have two cards I don't care about crossfire in linux but I would like to use the other card to run a third screen should I have any problems with the radeon driver?

>>56279142
I don't have two cards so I can't answer that question, sorry.

>>56278930
can't, it's server without any gui

>>56279127
>>56279090

Thank you

Looking for an alternative to CDisplayEX.

Basically a comic reader that lets me bind keys to scroll up or down pages.

>>56278663
Checks out. Running Ubuntu /w Unity and wearing a three piece suit.

Are there any actually good SBCs that can run the Raspberry Pi operating systems? I just want a free command line version of Mathematica so I can SSH into it and run simple shit.

>>56279163
ill try it thanks

>>56279267
mcomix. Also zathura which is a pdf reader that can also read comic files and use vim keybindings. You need ot install a comic addon for it though. Available in aur on arch and as the package zathura-cb on Fedora. Probably similar for Debian.

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>Its original name was Alix – named after the woman who was my sweetheart at the time. She, a UNIX system administrator, had pointed out how her name would fit a common naming pattern for UNIX system versions; as a joke, she told her friends, ‘Someone should name a kernel after me.’ I said nothing, but decided to surprise her with a kernel named Alix.

Just sharing my today's experience with Gentoo.

>move far away in a poor-ass student room for further education
>no ethernet, only wifi
>slow as shit and costs two thirds of an actual ISP subscription (but no router config, no ethernet and unstable, slow connection)
>Wangblows decides to stop loading 4chan
>Gentoo still does and Wifi just werks even on this piece of shit connection

>>56279191
Then you need to write a service.
It depends of the version of Ubuntu.

Thrusty (14.04) -> Search for upstart service
Xenial (16.04) -> You need a systemd service (also called systemd unit).

>>56279191
What do you want to start exactly ?

>>56279501
Actually i managed to figure it out, i jammed the command into some file in /etc/ that gets executed by the system after boot and is owned by root so i can put any sudo commands there

SELinux
APPArmour
tomoyo
gre

Which for daily use

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So, I installed Gentoo on my laptop
Everything, especially big things like xorg, takes too long to compile, and I'm starting to think this isn't my kind of thing
Is it going to be worth it, or should I just move on to another distro
And what other minimalistic, systemd-free distros are available?

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>>56279532
>i jammed the command into some file in /etc/ that gets executed by the system after boot and is owned by root so i can put any sudo commands there

>>56279609
Just give in and embrace the D.

Should I put MATE or Elementary OS on a usb drive to use in my laptop for school that currently had no disk drive in it? I know for a fact it would boot up, i'm just debating between the two.

I saw a DE thread the other day and it showed a really nice looking XFCE with an dark arc theme, but when I tried it on a VM it looked like ass.

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>>56279609
AKARI IS PURE
DELETE THIS

>falling for the gentoo meme

Deavuan is thrown around lately checkem

>>56279691
mate looks like shit. It looks like 1999 UI.

>>56279713
Last I checked Devuan installer still didn't work

>>56278575
Wouldn't that cause conflicts? What are you binding the super key to?

>>56279609
Gentoo user here

Gentoo is what you want it to be. So, it really depends of why you want a Gentoo.
That's not a rhetorical question. Why do you want a Gentoo?

For learning how things works, there is no better way. For having programs "more optimized with specific compilation flags", it's completely stupid.
For building your own Linux flavor, customised as fuck, it's perfect.


Also, for really big packages (web browser and libreoffice), there are compiled version that should be more suited for you.
After all you need is installed, compilation time is not really a problem. With a good portage configuration, you'll run updates in background without noticing. The only drawback is that updates and package installs will not be instant.

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>>56279749
>needing an installer

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>>56279646

mistakenly used 'sudo startx'
didnt expect

How the fuck do I set the font of mlterm? There's like 4 different font config files full of shit, I assume I need vaafont (since I use aa and variable column width) but what do I put there so that it will just always use this one font?

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>tfw Broadcom BCM43228HMB network card
>tfw proprietary software wants me to keep using Windows
Fuck this gay Earth.

>>56278723
>cheat sheet
>understanding
Sure thing.

>>56279646
dirty system requires dirty work

>>56278723
why learn bash when i know python and can make same scripts in it

noob here serious question

>>56279726
my only issue with Elementary is no desktop functionality without installing nautilus and messing around in dconf tools. It would be another story if the file manager that opened on the desktop was the same that opened by default, and if the icons didn't snap into their place AFTER I open terminal or the default file manager.

what is with the gentoo meme?

is it just some fork of linux that is unnecessarily hard to get working for no good reason?

whats the real difference between any linux distro really? just whatever software packages that come with the installation?

>>56279609
when the entire /g/ tells you to do something it is 100% a meme you retard
the truly used things are never agreed upon and heavily arguing goes on constantly
just use ubuntu and stop being a sad fucking loser.
do you also download only half of computer games and then waste years by coding the rest of the game yourself so you can play it? even though you can simply download a whole version of that game and save yourself the completely pointless work? of course you don't you silly little filly

>>56279892
- Speed.
- Not every system has python installed.

>>56279825
buy a new one

>>56279892
because learning bash means also learning to use the terminal and it's commands, programs and basically the system

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I'm a long-time Mac user who just built a Linux box. I dumped Mint on it because my roommate had the DVD with it. So far I like it.

One thing that bothers me are close/minimize/maximize widgets on the right hand side of the windows. Is there a way to move them to LHS like pic related?

>>56279970
Yeah, I know I could just use a USB network adapter, but I don't want to do that.

what is the best file editor for the terminal? vim is fucking shit i can't highlight chunks of text easily or skip to the end with keys

>>56279586
Aoparmour

>>56278781
Fuckin kekd mate. Why the fuck would you even lift your ass for that?

>>56279825
Broadcom works in Linux

>>56279999
>vim is fucking shit

Oh boy here we go. Did you even bother to go through vimtutor? It explains how to do those two things less than halfway through it.

>>56279983
>linux box
>mint
>likes os x themes
Oh dear...


Anyway: http://askubuntu.com/questions/99866/how-to-switch-the-window-buttons-to-the-left-in-cinnamon

>>56280027
Didn't work when I tried using Mint awhile back. Even tried to use ndiswrapper and it wouldn't work.

>>56279999
>what is the best file editor for the terminal?
vim

> vim is fucking shit i can't highlight chunks of text easily or skip to the end with keys
type "vimtutor" in the terminal and fucking learn it you dunce.

>>56280034
How do I paste in vim?

>>56278711
In small firms no, admins there are fat lazy shits and use ssh tunnels for everything, but in large companies like banks you are only allowed to connect directly to the server with an airgapped laptop, via cable to prevent any possibility of breach by comrade robot

>>56279759
>why do you want gentoo
As I said, I want a minimalistic distro, and no systemd
I tried Void, runit is really nice but xbps didn't work right
Also xbps-src is weird and I dislike it
The only problem with gentoo really is how long it takes for things to install
>After all you need is installed, compilation time is not really a problem
Well, I'll stick with it for a while then, at least finish installing all my shit before judging it

>>56279941
I didn't install it because of the meme you fucktard
Also Ubuntu a shit

>>56279999
You can do that if you learn it, vim is comfy after you get used to it
If you want a more normal editor though, try Nano

>>56279983
Why does everyone fall for Linux Mint? It's the worst distro around, but everyone and his mom is installing it.

Please explain this bullshit!

>>56279999
ed is the standard text editor.

>>56279892

Because a huge part of any Linux distribution is composed of glue code written in sh?

IMHO, it's not very useful to learn all the bash language, but it's a good idea to know how the basic operators works (if, for, &&, ||), as well as some notion of pipe and redirection.
It can simplify a lot of tasks (and by simplify, I means, you just have to type 3-4 words):
mass file renaming, getting software logs, searching files, ...

All of that is doable in python, but can't be "coded" as fast as a command line.

>>56279927
>linux fork
Don't know if bait but the main difference between distros is the package manager

>>56280034
Any text editor that requires you to read a fucking manual to use is absolute and utter shit garbage
It is a fucking TEXT EDITOR it has to be intuitive so that anyone can use it fully without reading anything
Do you see anyone reading reading the man page for a fucking notepad.exe?

>>56280064
Just Works

>>56279978
>He doesn't use zsh.

>>56280089
>any editor that has useful features is absolute and utter shit

>>56280100
>using a babby shell
Go away kid.

>>56280085

whats a fork mean?

whats the package manager?

>>56280043
Try Manjaro, they have newer drivers. If their driver detector does not work, Arch wiki will have you covered
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/broadcom_wireless

>>56280016
Because you dont want your server exposed beyond what it needs to be exposed too?
You dont want to have a threat of your servers being "Maintained" by the wrong person

>>56280083
>>56279978
>>56279970
thx for the replies it does seem a better way of doing things

>>56279927
stallman uses it, that is literally the only reason why anyone here knows it even exists
once stallman finishes the new linux he is writing then everyone here will be recommending that one as the new fresh meme

>>56280089
>I came here to write not read
Maybe you should stick to a notepad type editor then.

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>>56280100
>zsh

>>56280161
old memes die hard

>>56280161
Ironically shitposting is still shitposting.

>>56280141
>not just installing arch

>>56280192
He's new

>>56280168
apparently the more you know about loonix the uglier and fatter you are..
it's like it's impossible to learn loonix if you want to be hot and have a normal life because you literally don¨t have enough time left
why do some people make the choice to learn loonix instead of being hot, healthy and successful is beyond me

>>56280161
>Sir I'm going to need your meme card, that one is expired.

>>56279772
saved

>>56280168
>macs
That's it. That's the only reason why zsh got so popular. OSX comes with a deprecated old bash shell and instead of updating it, they install zsh, because "bash doesn't work". Tells a lot about those users.

>>56279779
wat happen

>>56280198
That's why oldfags use Gentoo. While stuff is compiling you have enough freetime to get /fit/.

>>56280231
permissions for .Xauthority and .xsession-errors files changed from my user account to root, because you log in as root after 'sudo startx', so i couldn't get it in as user anymore and found online that i have to revert the permissions

Some people like women
Some people like men
Some people like traps, gnu and linux

I'm using ncmpcpp + mpd and whenever I try to edit tags in a song, it gives me an error at the bottom:

Error writing tags in "song name"

Where the word "song" is the name of the song I'm trying to edit. The permissions in my music folder and all of the songs are
-rwxrwxrwx

The log file in ~/.ncmpcpp/error.log is empty.

>>56280281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjxTrrbjmx0

>>56280289
you need mpd_music_dir correctly set in your ncmpcpp config

Is it possible to turn linux into a single user system?
I want it to only have root, and no more password prompt.

And don't lecture me on how dumb that is, it's in a quarantined VM

>>56280342
>No password prompt
https://askubuntu.com/questions/153933/no-password-prompt-at-sudo-command

>>56280060

If you have a recent PC with a multicore CPU (and it's not yet burning because of emerge), you can specify emerge to build many packages in parallel in /etc/portage/package.conf (See https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/make.conf#MAKEOPTS)

Another thing that slow down the compilation is the IO. If you have a lot of ram, you can use a tmpfs on /var/tmp. The difference with/without is non negligible if you uses a HDD.

If you want to use only GTK packages, or only Qt5 packages, don't hesitate to add "-qt4 -qt5" or "-gtk -gtk3" in your global use flags.

I installed gimp with "pacman -S" but it crashes whenever I try to export anything (sometimes just the plugin will crash, other times the whole program. Depending on the file type). What do?

>>56280342
Also, you can login as root and set your password to blank

>>56280045
>thinking you need to run more then one command to use a fucking text editor

I've i cannot type one command, and be able to type text without ANY other bullshit, then it is a text editor. Anything else is retardation.

>>56280429
Show error

>>56280327
that worked thanks desu

>>56280454
Use emacs!
You can start typing without any other bullshit. (but don't expect to save your text as easily, or even to quit emacs)

>>56280454
Like your typing skills?

>>56280198
Im 129 pounds, have a girlfriend and run Debian with a self compiled hardened kernel, self compiled compiler, self compiled most of the OS, run AOSP self compiled on my OnePlus phone, do basic normal tasks, the GNU system can be ran as a normal everyday system, I switched my mom to Deepin and installed some stuff to make it fine for normal use and she says it's as easy as Windows and faster, does everything she needs, I'm just a programmer guy during my free time and a normal guy during other time, I also go on here for a laugh occasionally

does it really matter what DE you use aside from how it looks, how fast it is and if you do things through gui

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>>56280459
here's all the errors from when it started to when it crashed after I tried to open an image

Any dnf users here?

Can anyone help me with making my fedora installation comfy? I am new and I have to be spoonfed. Even giving me links would be helpful.

1. I want to start with minimal setup Minimal or server ISO?

2. Enable non-free firmwares

3. Enable non-free codec packs

4. How does fedora compete with PPA or AUR?

>>56280522
>>56280198

is this pasta

>>56280545
>Fedora
>Enable non-free
>Enable non-free
You're doing it wrong, Pal. Go back to Ubuntu.

>>56280611
Apt is shit, and Arch is purely rolling release

>>56280545
1. Server ISO.
2. It's enabled already
3. add RPM fusion then install mpv and cmus will work out of the box for mp3s and all videos after doing that.
4. It doesn't. It has copr but it's not that good. PPA and AUR are shit too anyway.Only use it if you absolutely must. PPA will often break your system.

>>56280618
>program %s is shit
That's what they say, when the don't read the manuals and nothing works.

>>56280545
If you have internet access, there is zero excuse for not teaching yourself the things you want to learn. You should not have to condemn yourself to having long-term unanswered questions about practical matters in the age of information. Virtually everything you could want to know/learn is one or two very simple Google searches away. You've GOT THIS.
http://www.google.com

>>56280670
Were you here a few threads ago? Apt is actually pretty dumb

>>56280544
Missing dependencies.

Each time you've an error like this:
> libxxx.so.0: can open ...: no such file or directory
It's a missing library.

I'm not an arch user. pacman -S doesn't install dependencies ?

>>56280684
Epic contribution, applauded and tipped

>>56280544
afaik this happens when you use bitmap fonts in gtk2

>>56280698
It does. We're not talking about Slackware.

>>56280689
Yeah, some guy pointed out that even the fucking NASA approves it (Some machines on the ISS are powered by Debian based distros).

>>56280722
Since you are a NASA employee, can NASA remove redundant GNOME dependancies?

>>56280722
actually they were using Debian, today they use Ubuntu

>>56280698
>I'm not an arch user. pacman -S doesn't install dependencies ?
It's supposed to. Looks like one of the missing dependencies is libwebkitgtk-1.0 from the errors, no idea what else.

>>56280713
maybe that's it, I just exported something without it crashing using a different font. what a stupid problem for some software to have.

>Apt cucks shouting from their cucksheds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NysoCN9RR_c

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First for Arch Linux.

>>56279761
How the fuck do you install Debian without an installer?

>>56280957
Probably referring to this
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apds03.html.en

What's the difference between installing ubuntu with cinnamon vs just installing mint? Are there any advantages/disadvantages between switching you DE and getting a distro customized around it?

>>56281002
Delayed updates and ubuntu-restricted repos, that's all

>>56280957

main # export MY_CHROOT=/sid-root
main # cd / 
main # mkdir $MY_CHROOT
main # debootstrap --arch i386 sid $MY_CHROOT http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/
[ ... watch it download the whole system ]
main # echo "proc $MY_CHROOT/proc proc defaults 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
main # mount proc $MY_CHROOT/proc -t proc
main # echo "sysfs $MY_CHROOT/sys sysfs defaults 0 0" >> /etc/fstab
main # mount sysfs $MY_CHROOT/sys -t sysfs
main # cp /etc/hosts $MY_CHROOT/etc/hosts
main # cp /proc/mounts $MY_CHROOT/etc/mtab
main # chroot $MY_CHROOT /bin/bash
chroot # dselect
[ you may use aptitude, install mc and vim ... ]
 main # echo "8:23:respawn:/usr/sbin/chroot $MY_CHROOT " \
        "/sbin/getty 38400 tty8"  >> /etc/inittab
[ define a login tty that will use this system ]
[ i.e. create tty8 with `mknod tty8 c 4 8' and run `passwd' ]
 main # init q
[ reload init ]

>>56281002
>a distro customized around it
Any distro is going to be capable of having the collection of packages that comprise the de for cinnamon. Mint isn't that special in that regard.

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Are UEFI/Secure Boots still a concern? Do they still force me to install Windows 8(.1) or 10? Should I avoid buying motherboards with these technology and use only BIOS?

>>56281120
I guess it depends on the device
I have a UEFI motherboard, no secureboot or anything

>>56281055
>>56281093

Mint was just an example. I'm referring to Kde/kubuntu Xfce/Xubuntu etc as well. I heard somewhere that software compatibility was optimized when you use the default DE for your distro and I was wondering how true that was. What about the other way around? Is it better to use ubuntu itself and just add a DE to avoid update delays or limited repos like you would have with something like mint?

>>56279927
It is Linux for the transcendent user who willingly gives his time and expertise over to the kernel gods for the best possible system configured perfectly to his hardware.

Any of you guys play WoW on wine? Have you ever been banned just for using it?

Apparently a lot of Diablo 3 players were banned for "cheating" even though they were just using wine and nothing else.

I am trying to install tuxguitar on Arch and the fucker won't open. I installed jre7 and logged out like the wiki said, but it won't open at all. I don't have any other java programs to test it against. The gcj version is unfortunately only 32-bit so the OS won't recognize the bin file.

>>56281491

i would probably switch to linux ( not sure what distro yet ) if i could play wow on it reliably, also managing addons might be a pain

>>56279927
you compile everything from source. nothing comes precompiled on gentoo. and it's a distro not a fork.

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I need you guys to recommend me a distro for my thinkpad t420

I want it to be able to support Facebook Messenger™, Skype™, and Apple Music® out of the box if possible

I want something easy to use that looks good without having to rice too much; The distro i've spent the most time in is TAILS, that's about the extent of my linux experience

>>56281649

whats the difference between a distro and a fork?

how would you compile something?

cuz ive managed to install ubuntu easily with a usb stick and a few clicks. im guessing there's alot more shit involved with gentoo

>>56281737
gentoo

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Why the fuck does this have to be so goddamn fucking hard?

For whatever reason my monitor's native resolution is not detected and set properly.

I have been fighting for the last couple hours to get a script to run at boot to do all the cvt/xrandr commands to set the resolution.

I have tried doing the .desktop file in .config/autostart, I have tried doing it as a service and using systemclt to enable it, I have tried throwing the sh file in the init.d folder. Nothing works.

Anyone have some advice to get this to work? I am running Fedora 24 Server on my home server.

linux

what would be the process if I were to dual boot Linux and W7 but on two separate drives? I've read somewhere that it's crucial that my windows partition is installed first and I don't really know why. does that only apply if both Linux and W7 were living on the same drive?

>>56281639
It runs just as well as Windows for me.

How can I tile with the model M?

there's no super key
ctrl+alt is awkward af and already used by a lot of software

I was considering like getting one of those mouses with a super key button but that just seems weird

>>56281769
a distro is the linux kernel with a preconfigured user interface... essentially. a fork is when you copy and edit the code of an open source project in order to make a new project. distros don't actually change the source code of the linux kernel, they just configure the user-related things like the package manager and desktop environment (apt and unity on ubuntu)

you compile something by creating a makefile and then running the make command.

>>56281854
It's because Windows is gay. It thinks it's the only possible operating system and therefore overwrites the other boot.
Just use Linux. Windows is for gays.

>>56281854
it's not crucial but windows will eat your fucking linux boot loader and it will be a right pain in the ass to get it back, hence why you install windows first.

>>56281769
distro: Short for distribution, and is just a named, pre-configured Linux OS with all the pieces being specifically chosen by the maintainers of the distro. Different distros also have different development cycles, release schedules, philosophies, and so on and so forth.

fork: A fork is just a piece of software that is based on the source code of another project. For example, Ubuntu is a fork of Debian. They are both distros, but Debian is not a fork because it was made from scratch, not based on anything.

>how would you compile something? im guessing there's alot more shit involved with gentoo
There's guides and resources for installing/using Gentoo on the Gentoo Wiki, including the compiling parts.

>>56281858

where is this linux version of wow pls


isint there some kind of custom boot loader that just allows you to pick which OS to boot to when you start up computer after post?

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>>56281900
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>56281904
there's a lot of them. GRUB is the most popular.

How do you get an external sound card to be used by default? It shows up in lsusb and in alsamixer, I have enabled the correct options in the kernel.

>>56281931
Install Gentoo.

>>56281931
asound.rc or select it and save the state
archwiki, manual, gentoo

>>56281925
thank dr stalman

>>56281930

so help me through a little step by step here:

1 install mint? ubuntu? arch? which one would best play wow? does it matter?

2 once installed, and i guess depending on the distro, how do i get wow installed, and possibly my addons? apt-get ? ubuntu app thing?

3 im running two gtx 770s in SLI, will that be a problem with drivers etc?

>>56282023
Retarded? Mint.
Edgy kid? Arch.
Normalfag? Ubuntu.
Special Snowflake? Fedora.
A well adjusted, sane person: Debian.

>>56281863
What are you trying to tile with, wm not hw. It should be as easy as opening the config and editing it for a different meta key like crtl or alt.

Is there a way to preview my GRUB? Like a dryrun? I'm trying to rice it a bit and don't want to reboot for every change.

>>56282051

my IT knowledge is mostly windows based, as a CompTIA A+ cuck with alittle working knowledge of python and C#. ive only every really setup ubuntu servers remotely by shelling in and just updating it, and installing apache and webserver shit.

im assuming all these picks will run wow, and steam stuff? they all just have different UIs or whatever?

>>56282087
no.

>>56282023
Install GNU/Linux. I use Fedora personally. Install wine. Download windows wow. Install it with wine. type wine .wine/drive_c/Program Files (x86)/Blizzard Entertainment/Battle.net/Battle.net.exe
done.

It will take some reading to learn how to do this, it's easy for me but I notice how convoluted it must sound to a beginner.

>>56282121
There was a guy some threads back who reported that it runs faster with the linux version.

>>56282121
Oh, you also have to go into winecfg and enable in libraries "msvcp140.dll" for it to work.

>>56282121

do i have to use wine? is there not a native build of wow for linux? will using wine diminish performance? also, im worried about the video card drivers cuz im running SLI

>>56282138
There is no linux version. Using wine is what they meant.

>WoW
just leave

>>56282144
Sorry, Blizzard doesn't want to take the time to make a linux client.

>>56282158

make me cunt :^)

>>56282141
>dll
botnet

>>56282158
this

this isn't your personal looser game support faggots >>>/v/

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Is there a fucking linux distro that doesn't freeze/crash all the time??

fucking AMD drivers man

>>56282168
>using the smiley with a carat nose

Everyone not using Exherbo or at least Gentoo should seriously kill themselves.

>>56282190
This bullshit "AMD sucks on linux meme" is untrue. It works very well. You're probably using the non-free driver, which does suck. The free drivers are amazing.

>>56282190
Just use a GNU/Linux distro. Don't fall for the fakes.

>>56282202
>The free drivers are amazing.
What you meant was your performance is shit but you are lucky and it doesn't crash.

I've noticed my kubuntu has a process called mysqld running under my user, I didn't set this to run. How can I find how it is being launched and turn it off?

>>56282190
It's always fun to watch computer illiterates trying to look illiterate.

>>56282215
You need to go back where you came from, nobody called you.

>>56282202
>>56282209
>>56282227
When i search "aditional drives" on the package manager it says i'm using 2 proprietary drivers

should i use the free ones?

its going to keep freezing probably

>>56282215
The performance is great. I can play game and watch any HD video just fine. And no crashing at all. AMD sucked a long time ago, it's not true anymore. That said brand new cards always have problems on GNU/Linux. But r7 260x has great performance with radeon driver. Of course new cards are going to suck, it just came out and drivers take awhile to catch up.

>>56282215
fuck off tripfag

>>56282249
Did you check the hw you're use against the proprietary drivers? Seems like a dumb question but if you aren't it won't work because it's not supported.

>>56282269
lol k.
The shits just reached a point where its usable, it isn't great.

>>56281863
buy a unicomp

>>56282289
read >>56282270
and >>56282244

>>56282305
There are radeon performance regressions and crashes in just about every major kernel version.

Never happens with Nvidia, the AMD drivers are still a joke.

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>>56282271
this is my system information:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5511131b725d8ccfe96f3033bcf8676f

and pic related is the drivers

>>56278491
First for
>3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

How do I make my desktop/ui not look like shit.

>>56282289
Could you please leave this thread? You're triggering other Anons with your clowns costume, which results in poo and ass posts, nobody want's to read. This is a friendly thread, please don't destroy it. Thanks.

>>56282342
It's true. I have all AMD hardware and it sucks balls. I never had these issues when I used intel and nvidia ten years ago when drivers were far worse all around. AMD is a shit-show. I want them to be better, I really do, but they are not going anywhere fast.

>>56282363
>>56282362
Don't feed the trolls.

What are slices in systemd? I can see a few listed with systemctl that are irrelevant to me but they don't seem to be listed to be able to disable them.

>>56282352
THe microcode is fine. But click on "xorg-video-ati" That is what you need. Crashing should stop.

>>56282363
Bullshit. I have a FX6300 and a 380X running perfectly fine under Gentoo.

>>56282394
the problem i have is freezing not crashing, though.

i changed to what you said, lets see how long does it last. probably a few hours

>>56282422
You need to reboot as you're still using the same driver if you haven't yet.

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>>56282451
i rebooted , and now that driver doesn't appear

>>56282532
Because you aren't using the proprietary one anymore, I guess? Maybe it won't freeze anymore.

If you still have problems do a fresh install, Fedora or Ubuntu is fine, but use 16.04 Ubuntu instead. Are you using 14.04? That's super old. Pretty sure Ubuntu doesn't have fglrx anymore.

>>56282614
I'm using Xubuntu 16.04

i tried install manjaro, but i still get freezes...

if you google "Ubuntu 16.04 freeze" tons of people have the same problem

>>56281737
pls respond

>>56282871
UBUNTU

>>56282629
>>if you google "Ubuntu 16.04 freeze" tons of people have the same problem
Yes, because a lot of people have no idea what they are doing and that is their only diagnosis for a million different problems, it means nothing.
>donald trump is the second coming
>About 3,810,000 results (0.55 seconds)

>>56283125
so , what do you suggest

>>56283199
I suggest researching your problem enough to find out what the problem is instead of googling the equivalent of "my car doesn't work".

>>56283212
>There's this light that won't stop coming on, it's on the dashboard, and it's red.

>>56283199
Did the problem stop switching to the free driver?

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>>56283259
it hasn't freezing yet,

also, should check the first option or second, or leave like this?

God Bindows 10 has slowed down my laptop.

What's a good Linux to install that can doweb browsing/emails/MS Office Suite?

Laptop is Dell Inspiron 15 3000

>>56283274
Leave. CPU Microcode helps stop a lot of glitchiness.

>>56283286
what should i do if the computer freezes again?

>>56283277
GNU/Linux doesn't do MS Office. You'd have to switch to an alternative, called LibreOffice.

Ubuntu or Fedora would be a good choice. I use Fedora but Ubuntu tends to be easier to use for a beginner.

>>56283252
>I turn the key and it doesn't work

>>56283307
Well I mean I'm at uni and my subjects involve a lot of collab, cant you run MS Office via WINE? It's been like 5 years since I last touched Linux due to Uni Subjects pretty much demanding Microsoft Environments.

But ever since being forced to upgrade to Windows 10, it's just been slower and slower and slower.

>>56283309
>It's making a noise

>>56283385
>it's green

>>56283404
>Timothy said it might be because I didn't go to church last week but I prayed on my own at home so I don't think that's it but it might be, I don't know?

>>56282051
>A well adjusted, sane person: Debian.
Flaming unlikable SJW: Debian
FTFY

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I use Arch-Linux

You aren't supposed to reinstall it, just keep your system rolling or some shit, but I see my folders get cluttered with random shit and I cant help it.

What do you guys do to keep your file system clean and tidy?

Pic related.

>>56283738
>.adobe
>.macromedia
stop installing malware

>>56283738
>.adobe
>.gnome2
>.kde4
>.flashcookies
>dankmemes
>dankmemes.c
>FAP
>hello
>hellocpp
>lesson_*
>Selection_*

You do know thre's a /tmp dir, right?

>>56283738
post of contents of FAP

>>56283948
I'm pretty sure its a blank file. I was learning how to make my own bash scripts and was testing making files/directories and stuff.

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>>56281842

Welcome to /fgt/ - Friendly GNU Thread.

Thinking of rolling with nftables for firewall, is it at a usable state yet?

>>56281842
>throwing the sh file in the init.d folder
Maybe you need to run in the 90s.

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Hey Linux Autists,

I come to your thread to tell you of my plans to buy an intel-based chrome-book so that I can put Linux on it. I'm pretty tired of Windows 10 but I still need it on my desktop PC for the games and I don't want to dual boot. I really want to stay under $200 and I'm not buying a used ThinkPad because I'm germophobic.

Lavish my plan with praises.

-T. Anon

>>56284593
>Using Win10

Even Windows users would laugh at you

>>56284593
for 200 you can get a used sandy bridge thinkpad that shits all over anything you can get new for $200

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>>56284607
I like to be up on the times. Now lavish me as per my original request.

>>56284611
I don't like the idea of other users previously having looked at pornography on what would now be my Linux machine. I live a strictly no pornography lifestyle and I don't want the demons from that act persisting into my code that I plan to write. You may lavish now.

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>>56284642
>I live a strictly no pornography lifestyle and I don't want the demons from that act persisting into my code

Why does polkit exist when sudo exists?

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>>56284642
Most thinkpads on ebay were bought wholesale from offices that upgraded very few people jerk off at the office.

I got this for $150 I already had the ssd other than some light scratches on the bottom it looked like it just came out of the box

http://pastebin.com/LN2tKHAZ

But I really don't care its your money enjoy your shittop

>>56284793
I think it has to do with sudo fucking up things when running graphical applications

>>56284593
>-T. Anon
How new are you?

>>56284593
Did you know there are more microorganisms (germs) in your body right now than there are cells which are yours?

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>>56283948
I was wrong it wasn't blank, it appears to be a part of a vim tutor lesson.

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>>56284687
I don't judge your filth or fondness for Chinese cartoons, so....

>>56284810
I'm not willing to take that chance.

>>56284919
I found this website tomorrow.

>>56284922
Yes, I'm a microbiologist.

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What can I expect from XFCE coming from KDE? I'm getting an XPS 13 DE coming in and I might as well experiment with DEs while it's fresh.

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>>56284928
>does the vimtutor lesson
>uses nano instead of vim

>>56284978
>Yes, I'm a microbiologist.
I highly doubt that, or you would have more money to spend on a computer, and less of an inclination to put your idiocy on display by thinly veiled bait masquerading as asking purchase advice from a lebanese bas-relief exchange.

>>56285031
not as many features
a garbage file manager use nano instead

>>56285031
It's different

>>56285032
When I'm just looking at stuff I tend to use nano out of habit.

>>56285039

I have plenty of money... I just put 2k towards my PC. I'm not crazy about spending a lot of money to get into a free, barebones, os.

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What does this mean?

How do I find out which units failed?

>>56285237
You used that PC to watch porn before, now it's tainted and degraded into debauchery for eternity

>>56285056
*nemo

>>56282249
https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/ubuntu/graphics-drivers

>>56285219
Do you typically blow money on new hardware to use new software?

Just use a VM and/or multiboot.

>>56285250
nm I'm retarded it was literally in the next few lines of the basic_systemctl_usage page.

I'm trying to get tint2 to work in tiny core. Openbox is working. When I start tint2 in the terminal it gives some stats but no panel on the desktop.

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>>56285288

Yes, I do. Money isn't an issue though I do like to control myself sometimes. I don't want to VM/Multiboot - as per my original posting - because I want to learn via immersion. If I can just switch over to Windows I will always succumb to that. No reason to use Linux if you have Windows. I want to have a Linux laptop so that when I'm out I am forced to use it.

>No reason to use Linux if you have Windows
Well, I guess you would be an authority on that.

>>56285348

There is a reason people recommend dual-booting or using Wine.

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So I'm just getting started with ubuntu, never used 'nix before so this is all new to me. One of the first things that I'm wondering about though is the absolutely disgusting ui (i guess this is called a desktop environment?) How would I go about changing this to something else, and does anyone have recommendations for some comfy flat aesthetic desktop environments? Thanks

>>56285448
Easiest way to change gui is to install a different DE, though if you only care about the flat-design you probably need themes for that.
No recommendations since I think flat-design is disgusting.

questions

how can i shutdown a tty session completely?
i tried kill (PID) but it only logs me out

how can i completely remove mate desktop environment in manjaro without all the cries for dependencies? want to install the updates but wont let me with this in use

>>56285448
When you load a new desktop environment log out. In the log out screen press the ubuntu logo and then choose your new desktop environment as a session. This took me a while to figure out. You'll still have the desktop it came with and you can go back to that when you log out and choose it. As for flatness, the desktop environments I've seen have themes. use the software manager thing and load a desktop.

>>56285475
Please post an example of flat-design.

I have no idea what people are talking about in desktop threads.

>>56285591
Go to your friendly neighborhood web search of choice, go for the image search, use the search term "flat design ui"

Wow, that was hard.

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Is there a way to get rid of these jagged edges everytime I crop the white background of an image?

With PS you can set anti-aliasing and be done with it.

I'm trying to diagnose the apache issue with my webserver.

netstat shows that apache2 is listening on port 80, but when I enter my site's URL into a browser it automatically goes to https (443), which apache is not listening on for some reason even though there's a ssl config in sites-enabled and 443 is listed in ports.conf

this all happened because letsencrypt's certs expired and I just ran the script to renew them, which fucked up all my configs and it hasn't worked since

I could just wipe it and start anew, but I run my email on this server and I don't want go though the pain of migrating it

>>56285695
>when I enter my site's URL into a browser it automatically goes to https
Disable https everywhere.

>>56285531
logout

and if that doesnt work

exit

>>56285695
I just tried the IP directly and it works, but going to it from the domain name has it refuse to connect

>>56285713
I don't use https everywhere

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>decide to turn my old pc into a leenix server
>install leenix on it, configure openssh and all that crap
>it runs perfectly
>..one week later..
>realize i haven't installed any services onto the server because i have actually no idea what to use it for..
>i don't watch tv, and i download torrents on my main computer with my supa fast internet, and don't have other computers at home so i don't need a htpc
>no longer doing web dev so don't need a web server either
>don't play games so don't need a game server
>tfw have a perfectly good loonix server and it's completely useless to me, don't even really know why i made it in the first place, probably because i'm bored with life in general, the server is a good methaphor for it
>it will be another hundred years until people can explore the wonders of deep universe in scifi spaceships.. i will be long dead by them
>the first thing that comes to me when i wake up every day is that i am alive in this shitty boring century, in this shitty boring society and all i can do is stare into a proverbial wall and wait to grow weak, old, sick and die

>>56285739
>plex server
>gaymen server
>personal website for dicking around with
>ftp for sharing files
>install proxmox and have a ez to use vm host

>>56285759
>he literally said word for word that he doesn't need any of those things you said, literally
You aren't very bright are you son?

>>56285739
>i am alive in this shitty boring century
Millons of death people had very little time and never knew the meaning of the word boring cause were too busy trying to eat once a day, like most animals in the wild.

change your mind, do the same everyday and the results will be the same, take advantage of your priviledges

>>56285678
You enable anti-aliasing in the toolbox.

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>>56285914
why bother? you will LITERALLY die mere decades before biological immortality in humans is achieved and they will be able to live forever and witness how the technology turns humans into gods over the eons
you are literally the last generation who will actually die
know that and still being able to go on is simply impossible

>>56285716
that wont let me remove mate desktop

>>56285985
kill yourself faggot

>>56285739
>old pc into a leenix server
electric bill

>>56286100
even if you are a loser who flips burgers for a living you can still easily afford run even two pcs nonstop

>>56278491
is there a point in buying a laptop with a graphics card (XXXm) if I'm gonna install linux in it?

>>56286135
no, just plug your monitor into the sound card you retard

lel
https://archwomen.org/

>>56286387
nice try apt cuck
https://www.debian.org/women/

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>>56286404
>>56286387
This is why professinals just use Ubuntu. Git gud.

>>56286417
>implying
http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/

>>56286387
>>56286404
>>56286438
>no men sites, only women sites
I'm feeling opressed ;_;

>>56285531
halp

>>56279749
>Hipster distro
>""works""

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What's good place to save my custom startpage?

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Why isn't there a basic screenshot utility for linux that can capture a scrolling window?

>pic related
The image shows an instance of gvim with a 161 line text file open. Why aren't there any programs for linux that can screen capture all 161 lines at once?

There are several programs in windows that can this. It appears it has been an issue for some time now.

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1416124

https://bugs.launchpad.net/shutter/+bug/343674

>>56287063
Because the feature you seek is not a basic screenshot. A screenshot only includes what can be seen on the screen, if you need to scroll it's outside the screen.

>>56287014
/var/www

Then just go to http://localhost/.

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>>56287063
>There are several programs in windows that can this.

>>56287063
why would you need something like that?

>>56287110
You can access a startpage directly via the filesystem, no need to set up apache/nginx/whatever

>>56287063
>There are several programs in windows that can this.
You need to go back.
>It appears it has been an issue for some time now.
It never was an issue. There are millions of ways to script such trivial things yourself. No need to call things you can't do a "bug".

>>56287106
>Because the feature you seek is not a basic screenshot.
I guess you're right. It isn't a basic feature. But programs in windows have this functionality. And I'd rather not use Windows if I don't have to.

>>56287125
>Nobody cares
B-but I...ok sorry sensei.

>>56287156
REALLY?

>>56287167
What's wrong with all those solutions mentioned on the site you linked?

Friendly thread: >>56287196

>>56287159
>You need to go back.
Back to where? Windows? No thanks, I'd rather stitch the images together using imagemagick.

>There are millions of ways to script such trivial things yourself.
Well I must have missed those solutions Anon. I've been Googling this issue. And I came across the post on the ubuntu forums...which led me to the "bug" report.

>No need to call things you can't do a "bug".
I *never* claimed it was a bug. I linked the urls to help demonstrate what I'm looking for.

I honestly didn't mean to piss any one off in this thread. I was hoping someone with more experience would have some suggestions.

Again, my apologies.

>>56287203
Anal goodness?

>>56287194
>What's wrong with all those solutions mentioned on the site you linked?
There are zero solutions listed. I'm not looking for a screenshot for a webpage.

>>56287063
Just change the screen resolution to 1000k, take screenshot, change it back.

>>56287224
You're not really trying to screenshot a textfile, are you?

>>56287063
>scrolling
That's what gifs/webms are for. Try ffmpeg.

>>56287249
>You're not really trying to screenshot a textfile, are you?
Yes.

I would like to take screenshots of some code. Vim formats my code nicely and I'd like to capture that.

>>56287258
>That's what gifs/webms are for. Try ffmpeg.
I need the image, not a video of me scrolling. This sort of shows what I am refering to:
https://www.techsmith.com/tutorial-snagit-mac-scrolling-window.html