/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>56272378
First for T430 masterrace!

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>thinkpad

>>56272378
3rd for whydoiwantaniMaclesspowerfulthanmythinkpadis

How to deal with one side of the screen being darker than other on X200 under linux (on low level of brightness)? On windows it's perfectly fine.

Thinkpad X60 why does the palmrest get so hot? T410 never gets a hot palmrest.

How do you guys get drivers to your TP once you've installed Windows fresh? Flash drive wont read on the lappy after Win7 install, so do I use a burned CD to install them?

>>56272485
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168837
He had/has the same issue apparently. Maybe it's widespread?

>>56272837
Try downloading the drivers in Linux live cd then putting them on the windows partition.

Ignore the other post, It's really late here and I didn't realise there's a new thread:

Thinking of getting a libreboot x200, is it good?, how is minifree?

I have T440s and I want to install hackintosh on it. Anyone knows how to remove wifi whitelist?

>>56272981
Why don't you just reflash it yourself? It's easy if it's not S or T.

>>56272981

See >>56271086

I'm taking an old laptop and make it freedum-enabled myself.

I'll slap and SSD in it, and a new wireless card, and still that doesnt amount 300€.

Minifree charges you about 400€ for the least equipped thinkpad. If you already have electronic tinkering abilities, and hardware to flash the bios, you could do it yourself.

Plus, buying from them may make you end up in a list, implying that we all are not in a list already.

>>56273210
By laptop I meant thinkpad x200.

Try to aquire the one with the best clock speed, because core 2 duo are starting to fall behind.

>>56267594
>>What do?
Get an Intel T61 board, the Nvidia model will keep dying forever
It might be cheaper to obtain the board from another T61, and keep it as a parts laptop

So there's no actual way to fix it, just abandon the whole motherboard?


The ebay prices are toxic for an eurobong, concidering most of the thinkpads that come from US including shipping and import charges

anyone got an X60s? I accidentally deleted my factory BIOS dump and need the video BIOS option ROM

>>56272378
Is it possible to fit a T430 keyboard in my T420 and get the backlight of it to work?

>>56272378
guys what do you think about hp elitebook line?

i look on ebay and found 2570p and 2170p costing from 150-200.

>>56273219
Alright yeah minifree's stuff seems to be badly priced, what thinkpad do you think it's decent? I don't want it for gaming but I want to be able to multitask and program.

>>56273528
Fine Thinkpad alternatives. Inferior keyboard and clitmouse, but superior touchpad, an optical drive that can be swapped for a second HDD on the 12" models, and they look more modern, if you're into that.

Anyone have a guide for making FrankenPads? I want more power than my T60 has, but I need my IBM logos to make me feel like a special snowflake.

>>56273711
>Open laptop and disassemble everything
>Put new motherboard and reassemble everything back again
>???
>PROFIT

>>56273486
help me

>>56273733
>le instructions not clear, got my dick sutck in macbook's trackpad

>>56273551
If you are looking for nonfree thinkpads, the ones on the OP are great: T420 and X220

If you are decided to install libreboot, T400 for power, X200 for portability. 4GB RAM are enough for many tasks, and an SSD will make pageswapping fast enough for it not being a hassle.

My X200 will arrive in a week or so. I'll report its performance (with a gnu/linux distro i still havent decided)

>>56273838
>he cant spend another 7 dollars for 2*4G dimms.

>>56273711
Basically you got to file off a part of the T60's chassis to fit the T61 motherboard & you'll have to remove the modem card.

>>56273528
They are cool, some models don't have a middle button so that sucks.
I like the 87xx series a lot, haven't had much Dell Precisions though.

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>>56273526
Not sure, I don't think its been done before.
Might just work or there might just be an extra pin for the backlight.

>>56272779
Because thats where the WiFi is at.
Good luck, I don't know if there was a bios to remove the whitelist.

>>56273919
It's not because of the dollars.
It's because that motherboard has tricky and picky 8gb RAM support, and, because of the processor being a bit old, I may want to use a light distro, therefore not meeding that much RAM.

I have 4GB RAM + SSD in my main laptop, I use to have 12 chrome tabs, programming/CAD software, music, and still have time to compile stuff in the background.

Except for heavy load under virtualization, 4GB is good. And I insist on the importace of having the swap partition on an SSD: It makes pageswapping fast enough not to even notice

T420 or X220?

>>56274355
>T420
DUDE

>pepople unironically discuss X60 and not mentioning libre ore coreboot

>>56273838
>T420
that one looks good, might look into it

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sup /g/

i recently bought a t61 used off craigslist, my first thinkpad, was a lil disappointed by the screen size but, all is well, but now this shit is happening. what is this? it seems like the right screen hinge is completely coming off the laptop, and i haven't been shutting or opening it hard. it just seems to be breaking by itself.

wat do?

dead pixel spotted on my sxga+ x61t
just kill me senpai

>>56272378
What games can I play on my x200?
I really want to start up Morrowind again. Will it run well?

I just got a W510 yesterday. Going to purchase a SSD and maybe another with the CD bay replacement. The battery it came with only seems to keep a charge for two hours, so I'm going to get another one as well. Further down the line I'll replace the 1600x900 and get a FHD screen. The memory was already at 16GB, so I'm good there. Anything else that I should look into? It'll be running Slackware if that makes any difference.

>>56275990

Interested in response. My take is a no.
Maybe doom... And morrowind may run at ~10fps

Whats the genetal opinion on the t460 models? quality and compatibility wise, i am consedering to get a t460p

Are the keycaps of x201 keyboard detachable? I've switched fn and ctrl in the bios and now I would really like to have corresponding keycaps.

>>56276668
Yes, but FN is 1U and Ctrl is 1.25U. You can't swap them.

>>56276407
I plopped my balls on a T460, they disliked it. That's my genital opinion

>>56276706
I noticed that obviously :P
Looks like the right ctrl would fit in place of fn though, now to find something for fn, maybe I'll just sand the label off.

>>56276104
Why wouldnt morrowwind run the specs needed are there

>>56276740
some model thinkpad might have a 1.25U FN key
maybe you could buy a single key?

I want to install Loonix on my ThinkPad. Should I keep the recovery partition? I can delete the SYSTEM_DRV partition, right?

>>56276782
I could probably get a spare ctrl key but it doesn't look like any thinkpads have a wide Fn key.

t420 hackintosh fags. Where the fuck do you get an el captain installer these days. I dont feel like buying a fagbook just to fag up my T420.

got an x230 for good money
should i go windows 7 or 8.1?
[spoiler]where would i get 8.1 illegally?[/spoiler]

>>56277205
Use 7
8.1 sucks

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I just got a X200s on ebay which was meant to be in working condition and I noticed one of the USB ports were burnt. What should I do?

Is it really hard to find any in good condition now?

>>56277140
I don't even have a ThinkPad, but I've made a Hackintosh before. If you don't have any Apple hardware, you can borrow from your friend but if they're /g/entoomen also make a virtual machine of El Capitan or Yosemite then download everything on there and put it on the ThinkPad.

Beware though, TonyMacx86 thinks everyone should still have a fucking Fagdevice and they'll ban you if you have an error with the virtual machine or using Unibeast on the VM.

Whats the best used/new Thinkpad I could get for $500.

Id like an i5 or better and a 1080p screen would be nice. Im going to use it in the dental field and some of the software requirements are a "Intel Core i3 Processor, 3.4 GHz or better"

Some guy in the last thread said a T440p would be a good choice but I cant find one used with a 1080p screen.

>>56277712
The x40 series are widely disliked among thinkpad users, not sure who told you to get one.
I'd probably go for a w530, high specs and a 1080p screen, though it's quite a hefty machine so keep that in mind.

Many like the carbon x1 too, so look into that also.

>>56277712
T440 is a good hoice if you can find one indeed
The only thing recommended is replacing the touchpad with a t450 touchpad

>>56277942
X40 series is good only thing is touchpad and a bit keyboard but people not recommending them because of that are fucking retards

does the X200t have inferior build quality? My ancient one has a broken latch, mangled battery, ethernet port that doesnt stay connected unless you hold the cable in, cracks in the frame on either side of the keyboard, and a ton of slop in the hinge.

I'm looking for something reliable, cheap, light, and not fast.

>>56278324
They do, they don't have steel hinges and they're made to be as light as possible due to their tablet functionality.

Get yourself a X200s, its really light.

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>>56272378
I wanted to get a cheap mSATA SSD for dual booting Win 7 and Linux and leave in the original 320 GB hard drive for data.

Found pic related in the user guide. What do they mean? It's an X230.

So I'm getting an X200s, but from what I can gather I guess flashing libreboot can be a bit tricky?

Planning to get a used x230 in very good condition, with an i5 3320m,ips screen and a 240gb ssd for around 300 euros. Using the serial to look up the parts and the ssd is listed as "
SSD-ASM7 240GB FDE 6G Intel"

You guys know what SSD that is?

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>got T460 about 3 weeks ago
>got a 72Wh external battery for it
>mfw I have to charge it less often than my phone

Cause i'm an idiot, i'm in the 1.48 BIOS in my t420. Can i downgrade the BIOS for 1866 RAM support without using a Hardware flasher? Am i fucked?

Left my latitude in sleep mode overnight, woke to smell of burning plastic and I would appear that cuckblows10™ woke my laptop whilst the fan was suffocated and burnt it out. Time to get an x220 methinks.

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Anons, what are the best models I can get for 200~300 USD on ebay (for a used one obviously).

I plan to only use it for 4chan, watching anime and doing small projects on it.
Anything more serious I usually do on my PC but I wanted a comfy machine.

Also I plan to throw either lubuntu or xubuntu on it, so obviously no gaming focus.

>inb4 gentoo.

>>56280374
T520

>>56280805
Thanks anon.

what is /tpg/s conclusion on the Thinkpad 13? seems like a pretty comfy laptop, light and at just the right size

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Can I run this as a proper linux laptop?

Where's the best place to buy a ThinkPad in Canada?
I need one with at least an i5, i7 would be perfect though.
1080p isn't necessary but idk

>>56281157
desu, I think you can use Crouton.

>>56281203
Also, I will use it for the internet (all 4chan jk), watching tv, movie, YouTube, small things like maybe minor gaming (idk if I can play Minecraft), and yeah. I probably will install Windows 7 or 8.1 and dual boot with some other linux distro.

I was also looking into a better fan something that would really run faster and cooler for muh t420 meme machine. price and noise level do not matter. I searched on google but couldn't find anything are default fans the only option?

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>get thinkpad
>turn it on
>small squiggle on the screen that's brighter than the rest

>>56273526
why... why would you want to put the t430 keyboard on a t420?
why not just sell the t420, and save up a bit for a t430?
>>56281463
I'm not sure what caused that, but you can usually get replacement screens for pretty cheap (as long as it isn't a tablet at least)
>>56281435
yeah stock is the only option
if your t420 has two heat pipes for the cpu, you can replace it with one that has one big one and I've heard that it cools better.
>>56281203
t510/t520 would be what you want if you want a quadcore i7.
if you don't you can get a t420 for pretty cheap nowadays
>>56281157
not really
you can use crouton which is glorified chroot.
and with that you keep your usable trackpad drivers.
>>56281020
not a real thinkpad™

Are you guys rusing me? There is like two 1920 Thinkpads on ebay and they are both $500

I want to clean my W520 fan and replace the thermal paste.

How big is the chance i fuck up and something breaks?

>>56282039
What are you on about?

>>56282107
depends, how retarded are you?
have you ever take a desktop apart? A thinkpad is just a little bit harder.
take out all the screws from the bottom.
take out the hard drive, take out the screw from under the hard drive.
take off the ram cover, take out the screws from there too
there's some under the battery too
after that flip it over and take out the keyboard and be careful when you unplug it so you don't rip the cable.
after that use a spudger of some sort top get the wrist wrest off of the bottom of the laptop (be careful around the audio port)
then unscrew the screws on the cpu and gpu slowly and diagonally.
once the heatsink is loose and unplugged scoot it to the side a bit, then wiggle it and pull it out slowly.
it was a really tight fit in and out, but once you find the sweet spot it will just slide out

>>56272378
I ran the thinkpad battery check thing from lenovo to see if I could get a free battery, but it said my battery is fine.
but on the website it says any battery for the t420 (made between 2010 and 2012) should be replaced
how would I go about trying to get a replacement?

>>56282399
you can't afaik

i had the same idea yesterday lmao, no luck though

So yall fags have convinced me to get a thinkpad, but as a astheticsfag, I'm leaning towards the x1 carbon. How much would I cuck myself by getting it?

>>56282107
I did it, didnt help with the fucking retarded amounts of throttling

real shame as I love the rest of the laptop, but this performance decrease is unmanageable

>>56282722
yeah with my w520 the gpu will throttle under cpu and gpu load, and IDK why.
what gpu does yours have? mine is only the 1000m, not the higher power 2000m, and even that one throttles.
also does yours alternate between like 170ishmhz and like 700ish instead of juts constantly being at a lower clock?

If you have a:

>T420

I can confirm that the Intel Centrino advanced-n 6205 WiFi card works as a replacement for the N-1000.

I upgraded today and went from 25mbps to 53mbps and can now use 5ghz at 65mbps.

>>56282722
did u get performance increase?

i recommend following the arctic silver for Intel guide

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>>56282886
why not just whitelist your bios and get the intel wireless AC card for like $20?
Inside my network I get between 100 and 150, but outside I get about 90 down.
https://www.amazon.com/Bplus-7260-HMWG-Wireless-AC-Bluetooth-HMCPartner/dp/B00HJCBV64
I'm 99% sure that's what I have.
speed test was done on google fiber if anyone is wondering.

>>56282798
yeah, the 1000. I never checked the clock, the sawtooth pattern of the temp was enough proof for me

>>56282895
no improvement, it still throttles on anything but the smallest load

>>56282597
don't get a thinkpad since they're obviously not for you

>>56282994
just because it's running hot doesn't mean it's throttling
the gpu can run at 99c just fine for a long time.
use msi afterburner to see clock speed.
also make sure your cpu isn't at 100% load in case it's actually your cpu not able to feed frames to your gpu fast enough.

>>56283024
it wouldnt sawtooth if it wasnt throttling

>>56283047
I have no idea how that would look on a computer
are you talking about tearing maybe?

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>>56283058

>>56283141
oh yeah that graph is showing your your clock speed jumping up and down
I'm not sure why it does that, instead of just lowering the total clock speed like on most machines.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252513317590?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Just picked this up how'd I do
[spoiler]Meme replies accepted here[/spoiler]

>>56283352
ayy lmao blaze it

>>56283352
$300 is a bit on the high side for a t420
but that's like pretty much a maxed out one so it's kinda justified
for that money I would have gone with a t430 though, and just replaced the hdd with a new ssd for slightly more money.

>>56272378
I turned off the adaptive brightness thingy in the intel settings, but my brightness still changes whenever I look at lighter or darker images.
is there any fix for this? why did they even think it was a good idea?
t420, igpu only, win 7

>>56283477
muh scissor switches

>>56283504
t420 uses scissor too switches you retard
the word you where looking for was chicklet, and the feel of the chicklet keys are supposedly far better than the older ones.
it's the layout thats fucked.
and you can fix that with a bios mod and a t420's keyboard

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Is it fucked?

>>56283554
no, as in I want the older scissor switches over the chicklet crap on the t430

>>56283562
what the fuck did even happen?

>>56283562
you leave that in the phoenix sun or what holy shit

>>56283590
google said to use a hair dryer on a rained on laptop

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>>56283606

>>56283587
pretty much everyone says that the chicklet keys feel far superior to the older keys
they are far more tactile
the keyboard flexes less
you'd have to be retarded to not like the keyboard because of the feel.
but you wouldn't be retarded if you hated it for the layout.

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>>56283606

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>he fell for the thinkpad meme

>>56283632
whats exactly wrong about the layout?

how hard is it to find a X61 laptop with t8300 or t9300 processor? everything I find on ebay is 2GHz or lower, and I just want a 4:3 screen with decent non-pisspoor power.

Also, are there specific models with the IBM logo on them, or is it random?

>>56283722
>X
X series is low voltage cpu only m8.

>>56283748
I hear they exist, but I'll take it from that response that they're an extreme rarity.

Somethimes my hard drive starts to click and clack for no reason every once and a while.
Is this a common problem with the hardware or is my hard drive fucked?
It interrupts any I watch when it starts to click, but not severely. It just pauses it for me to press play again.

>>56283809
I bought an x201, FYI.

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>he doesn't use a docking station
>he plugs everything in to the Thinkpad itself or makes do with inferior wireless alternatives

Why even live?

>>56283829
>plugging usb stick into dock

why??

the whole point of docks is to not fuck with it most of the time
reaching behind it to do that defeats the purpose

>>56283829
>he doesn't use a docking station
Because I have a desktop computer and I actually use my laptop as a laptop, I must be an absolute madman

>>56283661
PrintScreen is next to right ctrl.

The menu key, Scroll Lock and Pause are totally gone

>>56283587
The newer switches are objectively superior.

I daresay even the keyshapes are too.

The reason nobody likes the chiclet boards is they ditched the 7th row up top

I did the x220 keyboard into x230 mod, and while I like the extra keys I am definitely hitting wrong keys way more fucking often

I think the chiclet keyboard has higher travel distance and the keys actually feel LESS flat because it's just gaps instead of the sloped edges

The keys are curved in too so they don't feel like typical chiclet keys

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Recently bought a t430, I am considering throwing arch on it. Is there any quirks the t430 has with Linux? My x200 had trackpoint acceleration issues (which could be fixed through a variety of scripts)

>>56283847

Was trying out ready boost, but have SSD , thus rendering it useless. Just haven't unplugged it yet

>>56283856
>He charges his laptop by plugging a cord into it like an animal

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>>56283722
Yeah they are 'kinda' rare.
T8100 I've found a few times, I think T9100 is more common than T9300.

Kinda wild those came in an X-Series.

Why do you recommend x220 its weak as shit

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>>56284316
Whats a better option at it's price point then?

>>56284316
its a mobile shitposting machine

>>56284057
How is carbon fiber wrap for the palmrest? Is it less sweaty than the regular rest?

>>56284457
the wrap looks like shit
why would you want it

>>56284527
Because the palmrest makes me sweaty

>>56284405
Would it be able to run a few vidya games?

>>56284623
Absolutely! Thousands of them.

>>56284623
Maybe 10s of thousands

>>56284623
You can play Doom, what more do you need?

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>>56284527
>>56284457
Its just as sweaty.
Yeah it doesn't look good, but it served it's purpose.
I didn't feel like removing it yet, perhaps I'll put normal wrap on it.

Guys please help. I updated my t430 bios using .exe file from lenovo site. After updating, my laptop is not turning on but the fan and led power indicator is working.

>>56284737
Factorio

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>>56284834
You had a full battery right?
Its risky to do update thru Windows, recommended to do it thru a CD/DVD

>>56284881
Yes. I I have a full battery. Do i need to bring it in a tehnician?

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>>56284932
Maybe...
Is your T430 have UEFI? They seem to act strange when problems happen on hard drives.
I once had my hard drive die when updating bios thru windows, maybe try another HDD/SSD or try a live usb to see if it boots to that?

>>56272779
>Thinkpad X60 why does the palmrest get so hot?
The Intel WiFi miniPCIe card is below the palmrest, the Intel WiFi cards of the *60 gen were well known housefires
>>56269455
There's no faster fans, but you can repaste your heatsink and clean it, that alone should lower the temps to usable ranges
Otherwise you can set the fan to the maximum speed it has, which by default won't use, on Windows tpfancontrol is an easy as fuck program to set your fans, set it in manual mode and use the 64 value
On older ThinkPads the 64 value might actually damage the fans, but that's only on T4X and older machines iirc
>>56274207
>Good luck, I don't know if there was a bios to remove the whitelist.
Libreboot should just werk, but you lose anything provided by tp_smapi, which is the APS thinge and setting battery thresholds
>>56273327
>So there's no actual way to fix it, just abandon the whole motherboard?
You can reflow the board, or literally bake it in an oven and enjoy your cancer like /g/ used to do with GPU's, but it will eventually break again
>>56273486
>anyone got an X60s? I accidentally deleted my factory BIOS dump and need the video BIOS option ROM
u dun goofed, ask the Libreboot IRC on what do, afaik BIOS dumps are unique to each machine
>>56273526
>Is it possible to fit a T430 keyboard in my T420 and get the backlight of it to work?
Not with a stock T420, the guys that are reverse engineering the EC might make that possible in a not too distant future
>>56274355
If you have a desktop or a external monitor get the X220
>>56274515
There's no point in using Coreboot
Prove me wrong
>inb4 SeaBIOS for Windows
topkek
>>56274662
>wat do?
Your hinges are shot to hell and back, and already wrecking your lid
You will need to replace them and replace the bezel, the cheapest way to do this is usually buying another T61
Unfortunately chinknovo made them non repairable, though you can ghetto rig them into working state

>>56283616
I HEARD THAT, CURTIS.

>>56276791
>I want to install Loonix on my ThinkPad. Should I keep the recovery partition? I can delete the SYSTEM_DRV partition, right?
Yes, you already made your recovery media if you want to become a cuck again, right?
>>56278791
>Found pic related in the user guide. What do they mean? It's an X230.
It means they're retarded, you can install it just fine
>>56278986
>So I'm getting an X200s, but from what I can gather I guess flashing libreboot can be a bit tricky?
Not really if you can follow instructions
>>56281463
That's usually pressure damage
This wouldn't happen if chinknovo kept the magnesium lid
>>56282722
Set your fan to 64 using tpfancontrol and see if temps improve
>>56283809
>Is this a common problem with the hardware or is my hard drive fucked?
Sounds like normal operation, try to dissable HDD power saving features

>>56274662
That actually looks like they aren't screwed in properly, it should be pretty easy to fix, check the hardware maintenance manual part on disassembling the display
You might not really need to replace the hinge

So i think about getting x220, is it possible to use fingerprint scanner as root password on linux?

>tfw 10.8 in a vm with 2gb of ram is just as fast (or maybe even faster) as linux on my T420

>>56284845
Runs it without problems.
I use X220 as my only machine, and my gaming needs are totally fulfilled.

>>56286086
You can use it as user password, and set root without password and just use sudo to get root privileges.

>>56272378
>T420 - 14", normal size
why not the s?
battery life is shit on both models but at least you can upgrade the display of the s to 1080p

>>56286941
soldered cpu.

W-will the chinks make a 15 inch xps panel mod for the t420???

T430s (i5 M3320) for $360
or
T430 (i5 3210M) for $340 ?
i personally liked the T430s because its slim, but will i get the full ThinkPad Experience™?

>>56287032
Yes but it will probably be 1600x900

I have the T420s with the 1080p IPS mod but the thing I like best about it are the viewing angles, not the extra desktop space

>>56286931
do you recommend the x230?

>>56287654
>chiclet keyboard
>16:9
>AMT NSA backdoor

>>56282597
You have poor taste in aesthetics if your idea of it is a fucking hideous skinny wedge with chicklet keys.

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>>56282597
>aesthetic fag
>not wanting a real IBM ThinkPad

>>56288845
Which model is this, looks beautiful

So my X220's screen is absolutely fucked but the image behind it is displaying absolutely perfectly. Should I get myself a replacement screen, will that work?

changing the hinges on my t61 is a nightmare

>>56288362
>keyboard can be replaced for $10 to the classic one
>superior, same as x220
>you don't understand how AMT works.
AMT can be also permanently disabled in BIOS.

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Just picked this up with a 9-cell and a 90W charger for $90, pretty good for Yurop

Really don't know what to do with it.. A nice distro is a given, but I have no use for it

>>56289577
Backup computer. My x61t has come in handy while doing shit to my T420

>tfw hackintoshing shit is a fucking pain

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>>56289577
>Clean it until it shines
>Nice distro is a given
>Use it as HTPC, File Server, Web Server
>Rice it to the point where it doesn't look like a PC anymore

>>56289636
>>56289675
Yeah, I have my X220 set up just the way I want to, this could be a nice piece just to mess around with. And it's always nice to have a few backups..

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Who's also a part of the only master race?

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>>56290273
speccy

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>>56290319
and the bottom

>>56290273
>1600x900
>Winbloat

Well at least you replaced the keyboard

>>56290361
>not castrating windows 10 so it becomes lighter than win7
pls

>>56290319
>kingston
>>56290338
>having stickers
>ever

Been looking through the buyers advice and i dont know if thinkpads are what im looking for.

wanting a laptop for graphics + programming (openframeworks, processing, opengl) with good linux compatibility. price 1000-1800€

any good ideas? someone with a similar setup?

>>56290980
used p50 with xeon

>>56290996
thx mane been looking at that same model

>>56290996
if someone knows about a cheaper not used one ill be glad to know

>>56291035
t440p with t450 touchpad

>>56291068
been looking through the p40 yoga. thought the yoga thing was a gimmick but it might be kinda useful for design. is it shit and i fell for it?

what distro should I put on my X250?

>inb4 gentoo

Is it possible to get a key for a dock that doesn't have one?
Mini dock series 3

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Hi /tpg/

>>56273528
Pretty happy with it to be honest, dim blueish TN panel screen is the only real downside

>>56291191
yes, but it costs more than the entire dock with key off ebay

>>56289577
where if I may ask? pretty interested, getting thinkpads in yurop is suffering

>>56291448
Sweden, private listing. There are refurbs listed for $250 here which is fucking ridiculous..

>>56291743
any tip on finding listings?

>>56291847
Since I don't know where you are I can only suggest ebay.. You should know what the biggest buy/sell site in your country is, or you could try forums

I read on another thread a recommended ebay seller for hard drive caddies (t420), who was it again?

What's a good price for a T420? Also wondering where to buy one here, I live in Spain.

which one is better sleeve for x220, Lenovo's 12" or 13" fitted sleeve?

>>56283562
should have gotten a real thinkpad

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a e s t h e t i c x201!

Which thinkpad would you recommend that
>has long battery life
>not too clunky
>able to run light games

bought a t410 for $70, did i do good?

>>56293018
Is it falling apart? If not, then yes very good deal!

>>56292938
X230

>>56292801
You're doing that nip keyboard justice, I like it! I need to get one for my 200s, you got it from Ali, right?

>>56272378
How are you supposed to use left and right click to middle click on these things?

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I'm thinking about picking up an x100e because they're insanely cheap, and I want a tiny laptop I can bang around and tinker with Linux on. I was thinking Debian with Windowmaker, or something similarly low-resource. Any ideas, advice?

Bought a x220t and it's running really hot. Idles at ~70° and the fans are very loud all the time. Win7 64bit. Anyone know what's wrong?

Anyone using xfce on a t430? I've got every option I can find set to ignore the lid closing but the stupid fucking thing still goes to sleep when I close the lid.

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hello, I need help
I'm sorry for shitting up your general, but this is my 1st time on /g/ and this is the closest thread in the catalog

I need to buy a new laptop (my current pc is from 2007) under $600 because I'm a poorfag, could you please recommend me something or at least put me in some direction? my primary concern is performance, I don't really care about design, weight or anything like that

looking around I found pic related, what do you think about it?
https://www.amazon.com/Acer-Aspire-NVIDIA-Windows-E5-575G-53VG/dp/B01DT4A2R4

thank you very kindly

t. /int/fag that doesn't know shit about computers

>>56293595
get x120e or edge 11

>>56293805
replace thermal paste

>>56293130
Yeah I did! this guy specifically:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-98-origina-For-lBM-X200-X201-Laptop-keyboard-Japanese-Free-shiping/32264266111.html

And thanks! I wanted to go for a retro look, since thinkpads already do that justice pretty well. :P

>>56289170
15" T60, it definitely is

>>56293891
Not the best place to ask... Considering /g/ is pretty much a consumer general board at this point, your bets bet would probably be to make a new thread.

>>56293816

Fixed this stupid shit. Uninstalled xfce4-power-manager and edited /etc/systemd/logind.conf:

HandleLidSwitch=ignore
HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore

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Is there any way to actually disassemble the T420's fan? On my T60 I was able to bend these metal tabs and peel back that foil tape to remove the fan. This helped fix the grinding noise it was making because it was easy to drop oil into the bearings.

Whenever I was replacing the thermal paste on my T420 it didn't look like there was a way to do this. Its unfortunate because the fan blades are too close together so it looks impossible to pick out any dust bunnies that might form in there unless there is a way to completely disassemble it like my T60

>>56292029
200 merican or less depending on config and condition

What OS do you use on your thinkpad?

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>>56294171
Haha, I actually ordered one right after I posted that, turns out it was the same listing, nice!

>>56294235
alright I'll do a tomorrow
thanks for advice

what do you think about the one I posted btw?

>>56294659
>Acer
>Aspire

No, never consider that line. You'll be heavily disappointed.

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>>56294745
elaborate please

How come upgrading from Win7 to Win10 takes so very long?

>>56290765
What's wrong with Kingston?

>>56294171
oh fuck
is there one for the x230t

aliexpresses search isn't functioning for me right now

>>56295062
There are ones for the 220 that you could get

>>56294745
That's racist.

I have (now my wife has it) an aspire 5740g that has stood as a trooper since 2010. It even fell from a 1.5m height once, and I'm using the disk that came with it to post this from my T430.

But I understand where you come from, I've seen some shitty, flimsy acers.

So, >>56294659 for advice I would tell you to search for reviews/forums and take the worst things people say about the laptop itself, that's what you'll notice first.

thinking of replacing my chinkpad with the Dell XPS 13

good or bad idea?

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>>56274207
>mfw 240 is so hard to find and the ones that I find are too expensive

>>56295062
>>56295086
Should have provided a link.. http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Laptop-keyboard-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-X220i-W510-W520-T510-T510i-T520-T520i-series-QWERTY/32711198448.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.ysVHiL&ws_ab_test=searchweb201556_10,searchweb201602_5_10057_10056_10065_10055_10054_10059_10058_10017_107_10060_10061_10052_414_10062_10053_10050_10051,searchweb201603_2&btsid=2ce35178-6c35-429e-a981-54d365297d27

The ones for the X220 is a bit more rare for some reason, I managed to snag one from ebay for $25 a while back though

>>56293595
I have an x100e I'm looking to get rid of

Has anyone here installed CoreBoot to their Thinkpad? What are your thoughts? Any noticeable (dis)advantages over stock?

Why does /g/ recommend the T420? The one I had was one of the least impressive ThinkPad that I've owned.

Frankly the worst TN display I've ever seen. I had the 1600x900 variant and the extra resolution didn't compensate whatsoever.

Also doesn't have USB3, which isn't a massive deal but looking forward I think it kinda is.

Sold mine and added another 50% on top to get a X230 with an IPS display which is frankly stunning. Very happy with this machine. Chiclet keys being terrible seems to be a meme, although I do prefer the 7 row layout on older ThinkPad.

Just thought I'd share this experience, not that any of you care, I'm sure.

>>56295237
Let's talk, hombre.

>>56295062
>tfw want the x230T specs
>but want the x220 keyboard
>pushing the x220 keyboard on a x230T fucks up half of the buttons and nipple without major modding
The fucking tablet edge issue is easily fixable by creating a heavy calibration tool
god damn I hate lenovo

>>56295237
To follow up; feel free to email findmeon4chan@hotmail if you want to discuss it.

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>>56295473
>god damn I hate lenovo
Why must they destroy everything we love. When they finally remove TrackPoint I'll be DONE.

>>56295565
TrackPoints are even good especially in a world full of larger than 1080p resolutions.

What ExpressCard adaptors do you get for your computers? I don't know what to use my ExpressCard for.

>Spend ~300 for an older Thinkpad in decent condition or buy a brand new Dell with i7 and 16gb RAM and discrete Nvidia graphics 960m with 4gb RAM no less.

One Dell plox

>>56295927
Some people get USB3 expresscard if their ThinkPad doesn't have it.

Personally I use it for EXP GDC Beast v8 to attach an eGPU as my X230 already has USB3.

>>56295975
Some day when you aren't a /v/ pleb you'll understand that there's more to a laptop than its specs.

>>56295975
How much did the Dell cost?

>>56296016
Around 600 with financing and a 75$ gift certificate

>>56295927
I use an USB3 expresscard with 2 ports for my t420 and my eGPU when docked.

>>56296026
>Spend $300 for an older thinkpad (likely could get for 200), or almost 700 for muh gaymen laptop
Honestly don't know what you expected

>>56296026
Nice specs for that price. I wonder if the keyboard is any good and if the build quality will last you 3 years. Good battery life and light weight would also be a plus.

>>56296085
75Whr

Build quality is OK, chicklet keyboard. i am pretty happy with it tbqh

>>56295997
>>>56295927 (You)
>Personally I use it for EXP GDC Beast v8 to attach an eGPU as my X230 already has USB3.

An eGPU for your x230? Why?

>>56296033
>>56296201
I mean, I see the use for an eGPU, but if you want to game with a laptop why not get a T series or W series?

>>56294400
All of em

Found a good deal on a t430 but it only has 4GB of ram. Still a good deal or am I going to need to upgrade and the RAM costs a ton because of whatever reason?

>>56296296
Because i don't see the point of gaming on the go, and when my t420 is docked i have a monitor to use with the eGPU.

So whats the trick to getting the wireless adapter to work after a fresh win7 install?

>>56296608
Try installing the driver.

>>56296621
And when that doesn't work? I thought this was a known issue where after a 7 freshie it forgets there's an wifi NIC. I can get ethernet drivers to install all day (realtek) but no wifi ones even from Lenovo's site.

>>56296714
maybe the machine is not recognising the wifi?

>>56296714
I've installed 7 on like 7 different Thinkpads and it's always just werked for me. Try Thinkvantage System Update.

>>56296733
Will do. Thanks.

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>>56296201
Basically this >>56296548

eGPU gives me 8x graphics performance so I can play games that weren't possible with HD4000. I don't have a separate gaming system or desktop so this is pretty ideal for me.

>>56296296
T and W-series are too heavy/large to carry around for me. I want to have only one PC system for everything.

So I can going to dual boot Windows and Linux on my T420.

Which version of windows is more supported? Windows 7 or Windows 8.1?

>>56296867
7

>>56296873
Alright, 7 it is

>>56296873
Professional or Ultimate?

I'll be getting an IPS screen for my X250, should I go with the 1920x1080 one or stay at 1366x768?

There's no way I'll be able to comfortably use 1920x1080 without scaling on a 12 inch screen, and scaling can be a pain in the ass.

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>>56272378
Thinkpad X200 reporting in

>>56296979
Congrats, you own a shitty old laptop

>>56296992
Isn't that the point of this thread?

>>56296544
You can get 2x8GiB for less than $50 and it's super easy to install. You'll want 16GiB total if you're running a virtual machine, some IDE and a web browser at the same time.

Getting a single 4GiB or 8GiB stick as an upgrade is also an option if you don't want to max out for some reason. RAM support should be pretty good on T430 but if you want to play it safe some manufacturers advertise support for ThinkPads.

I got CT2KIT102464BF160B which will max out the stock T430.

>>56296905
I'd say Professional since you're supposed to have a valid professional win7 key on the back.

If i were to crack it i'd say Enterprise though.

>>56297048
Sounds good, thanks.

I should have just asked how expensive the RAM is since I saw some discussion that DDR2 is expensive. DDR3 isn't bad so you're right.

>>56296992
guarantee a free BIOS GNU/Linux SSD equipped X200 boots faster than your piece of shit

>>56297179
My Pentium M 1.5 GHz Dell booted to desktop in 3 seconds last time I used it (admittedly several years ago)

>>56297192
try it with a modern OS

>>56297209
idk where it is, but my next Dell laptop booted to desktop in under 2 seconds with systemd.

Current laptop is slower because it boots from a pci-e drive that takes a while to initialize

>>56297231
Yeah, and my shitbox has a 0-60 time of 7 seconds

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>>56297261
Just because you're too inept to only start services you use doesn't mean everyone is.

This bootchart is from 2008

>>56297231
you're probably not even including the time it takes for that piece of shit to POST

>>56297344
correct

My T420 just booted and did 5 Windows alert beeps (through the speakers), any idea what this means?

>>56298194
like from inside windows it beeped at you?

>>56298221
yep after I logged into the desktop

Whats the best thinkpad for 300 usd or less than 300 usd?

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>>56298194
I googled it for you this is probably the best you'll get https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/ht035729 if your laptop's working fine probably no reason to worry.

Anyway I'm unsure whether to ask this here or in /fglt/ but I'm installing Gentoo and when I install Grub I get: efibootmgr: efi variables are not supported and the system doesn't boot. And when I set UEFI/Legacy Boot in BIOS to UEFI only my LiveUSB doesn't boot.
Does anyone know the problem? Should I use mbr/BIOS instead of gpt/UEFI? Is it a problem with the LiveUSB?

>>56298319
I think those are system beeps (like on BIOS-level), these beeps came through Windows

>>56298331
Googled it 4 u again http://ccm.net/faq/344-how-to-recognize-computer-beeps "indication of problems with CPU"

>>56298346
I'm not talking about BIOS/PC speaker beeps, which is what that article is referring to. I'm talking about alert sounds that come from Windows

>>56298582
Does it happen when you restart it? You should probably just delete your computer. Or try googling yourself

Has anyone tried running linux on the 600x?

Where is a good place to get a cheap working x220 AC Adapter?

Please complete guide installing Debian for t420 or such

>>56298940
ebay
make sure it says genuine in the title/description, then double check that it's correct online or something.
if it's chink then you can return it.
>>56298958
It's pretty much the exact same as installing debian on any other computer.
You'll have to get the drivers for wifi though if you use the intel wireless since I'm 99% sure it uses a proprietary driver.

I bought a cheap eBay battery for my T500 like an idiot, its not charging past 85%, and it shuts off at 40%. Is there a way to calibrate this thing? I got about 2 hours off of it before it died the first time, so I'm thinking it may not be entirely dead out of the box. Running openSUSE, if that matters.

>>56283009
>>56288530
>being this buttblasted
Stay mad, samefag.

so, bottom line, what's the difference
https://www.amazon.com/compatible-Extended-Capacity-Replacement-Battery/dp/B00GDPOZWA

http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:item.detail?hide_menu_area=true&GroupID=460&Code=0A36303

>>56299393
Try installing windows 7 temporally and lenovo power manager to calibrate it then nuke the windows partition.

>>56299419
cheap china shit that will be dead in a year
expensive china shit that will be dead in two years.
also you can get the 55++ for like $90 on amazon
the 70++ has the proprietary charger shit that the t430 needs.

>>56299419
>160
fucking chinks

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I've managed to get a T400 for $60. Want to install Linux obviously.

Anyone use KDE on one or should I use GNOME or Xfce? Also is there a way to get the fingerprint reader working with Linux? Seems like a cool little thing to have.

>>56299583
Xfce

fprintd, its shit though on every OS.

>>56299597
Alright thanks. What makes the scanner shit? Is it just crap at detection?

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>>56299583
Just use the one you like the most

Dont bother with the fingerprint reader support won't be as good as you get in windows but this is more of the issue with it

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/05/iphone-fingerprint-search-warrant/480861/

>>56299640
Yeah. It never worked once when i used it.

T420 i7 users - what are your idle CPU temps? what about max load?

GPU temps too if you got one

>>56299661
>i don't know how to use it
>must mean it's broken and shit
nice meme
reads prints fine

biometric security for standard laptop use is insecure shit though

>>56299640
It doesn't integrate well with anything

>>56299656
>>56299661
>>56299677
>>56299682
I probably won't bother then. Laptop has seen it's fair share of use so it might not even work, but $60 is $60 I guess

>>56299682
integrates just fine with PAM
what else do you want?

>>56299674
low 40s on linux, mid 40s on OSX.
97c on linux, no throttling, 87c on OSX, fucker then throttles down to 1.6ghz.

i7-2620m, no dGPU

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>>56299674
pic related idle, ~91c on load and then each core throttles to 2890mhz

win7 with hd3000

>>56299744
>>56299835
i'm at 45C idle, and 75C max (prime95)

I thought this was pretty high for idle, but the max temp seems OK. I just repasted today.

Although the ambient temperature here is 16C right now - guess that's important.

Post your ambient temps too, that would be more useful for comparison

>>56299876
>>56299744(You)
ambient of 21c (70f)

>>56299893
not bad. whats osx on thinkpad like? do you use it regularly or just for fun?

tpfancontrol - yes or no?

>>56299970
Fun. Just installed it today. It is as quick as linux is on it. It uses 2gb of ram (of 8GB) at idle so its not light at all but that is to be expected of 10.11. I havent had any issues with it that arent fixable at least. Both the trackpoint and trackpad work. I havent installed the modded bios and a compatible wifi card yet and I'll probably just get a usb one anyways.

http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/

>>56300033
thanks for the pointer. How is battery life?

>>56300083
Seems to be just as good as it is under linux. I have a brand new 9 cell so i dont really care to be honest.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/UPGRADED-Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220t-Tablet-128GB-SSD-Win10-Pro-64-bit-i5-2520M-/222219548936?hash=item33bd513908:g:t70AAOSwgZ1XsScT

this seem too good to be true.

is it?

>>56300278
$30 shipping
but other than that not really
for some reason the x220/x230 tables have TANKED in price.
I remember like a year or two ago they where $300 at minimum.

Is there any reason to buy a Thinkpad over building a PC if I never leave my mom's basement? Clearly price vs ability to game?

>>56300312
>Is there any reason to buy a Thinkpad over building a PC if I never leave my mom's basement?
I don't see any, maybe shitposting from your bed? dunno

>ability to game
eGPU

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>>56300312
Being able to move around a bit helps your sanity. Staying on the same chair all day every day makes you go insane quicker.

>>56300278
I bought one off ebay. Im doing drawing stuff on it. Its fun.

>>56300278
>seller has 100% positive feedback
>been selling since 2005
go for it.

>>56300312
over a pc?
not really.
although generally people buying thinkpads spend less than $300 on them, while if you plan to build a pc don't spend any less than $500 on it.
What's nice about having a laptop (even if you don't leave the house) is signposting while lying in bed. Once you experience it you can't go back.

>>56300341
>200 feedback

>>56300353
>>56300341
It's ebay, even if it is a scam you can get your money back pretty easily.
they will gladly fuck over sellers.

>>56300361
>they will gladly fuck over sellers.
this 100%

>>56300361
Can confirm
Got fucked over even though I was legit

>>56300033
Huh. Yeah, if you're using it casually it just makes sense to use an usb card. Have you tried out the CF card compatibility on OSX yet?

>>56300533
Tell us the story anon

>>56300334
Ty for caring Luluco-chan

>>56300538
You mean Sd card? doesnt work. At least not on the T420.

>>56300614
Sorry I meant expresscard.
Fuck my age is showing.

>>56300622
Seems some do. I dont have one though.
http://forum.osxlatitude.com/index.php?/topic/6562-expresscard-usb-30-controllers/

>>56300593
Alright
I sold a mortorcycle frame on eBay for like $300+shipping. Sent the thing out and everything. Guy put in a claim saying I had never sent it. I couldn't find the receipt with the tracking number because I sent a fuckton of things at once. eBay had already had it, but PayPal was saying I had to give it to them, and eBay was not giving me the tracking number back.
So, PayPal still flags my social security number to this day. I just made a seperate PayPal account with a different bank account number n shit without my SSN so that I can sell on Swappa instead.
I'm not giving PayPal nearly $400 to get my old account back. Fuck them.

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>>56295218
Paid $40 anon, this laptop has been on my area's craigslist for months, I think maybe even two years.

Currently having a somewhat tough time getting an OS on my S31... Boss let me basically have it for free, the guys were gonna recycle it (I work at a waste/electronics recycler) but they knew I was nuts for those 'old IBM thinkpads'


>>56301056
Wow...
Man that sucks
I had a problem when returning a go pro
back then returns you had to put in tracking numbering when you printed the label.
I forgot to jot it down and lost it, luckily eBay had it, but it was dumb you had to write down, when usually all packages sent/received had tracking put in automatically, but not returns.

I don't know if I got my money from my W700ds lol

I think I did... but im not sure with all the fees, paypal percentages when I had to sell like 8 laptops one week.

>>56296992
X200 is cute tho. D:

>That feel when your battery isn't on the battery recall

Are there any good nine cell T410 battery replacements out there?
I can't really afford to shell out the huge amount of money the lenovo one costs

>>56302212
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Genuine-OEM-Original-IBM-ThinkPad-Battery-55-9-Cell-57Y4186-Sealed-in-Box-/302033555273?hash=item46529a4f49:g:m5QAAOSwEjFXfrz2#shpCntId

this is better than the 70++, NIB too. I just bought one earlier today (even with $50 shipping to New Zealand)

Does someone can confirm Linux is working fine on Thinkpad T460 ?

- Archlinux
- Jewbuntu

>>56302423
Install Gentoo

>>56302449
Same question to Gentoomates