/hpg/ - Headphone General

>>56270053
It's just best to leave it out of the op since it results in half the thread being shitposting and shitflinging.

>>56270056
Thank you.

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>>56270056
>pls no shitposting

>>56270170
>I'm new to /hpg/

>>56270179
So you intentionally include 3 lines in the op you know will set off a minority of very vocal shitposters instead of removing those 3 lines which will actually improve the quality of the thread by taking away the main reason for shitposting?

They have faults and limitations, they have advantages, stop being childish and fucking over hpg for your immature sense of entitlement.

You need to be over 18 to post on this website, start acting like it.

>>56270056
What's a good dac for speakers?

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Hey OP, you forgot this:

Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.


I got you, don't thank me.

>>56270229
>you know will set off a minority of very vocal shitposters
Who, if ignored, will post once or twice? And with every post make justify ignoring such shitposting?

So who is shitposting in a new thread now rather than carrying on the discussion in the old thread which is still far from the last page?

You are justified in creating a new thread before the bump limit "to avoid shitposting" and then shitpost in the new thread? You aren't jumping the bump limit "to avoid shitposting."

Don't bother answering either question because I know you are just going to lie and deny any wrongful conduct or conclusion so it is not worth my time or attention.

>>56270293
>>56270287
It says no shitposting ITT in the op, so fuck off shitposter.

Idgaf what else you post, it will be ignored (:

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>>56270316
>It's not shitposting when *I* do it.

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Reminder to have good source audio components.

Friendly reposting

hi cuties

>150 euros
>France
>Computer
>Full size
>Open
>As comfy as possible, would be listening to it for hours
>HD 280 Seinheiser

I'm mostly looking for an open headphone because I think my closed 280HD raped my ears slowly but surely because of how long and how strongly I listened to music
I want to avoid that now, I was looking at the AKG K702 which seemed good, , I loved how everything is so clear when using my current heaphone
Thanks in advance

>>56270263
A good DAC is a good DAC, doesn't matter if it's for speakers or headphones or iems

>>56270381
What's a good dac then?

>>56270398
Depends on your budget and requirements but an ODAC should cover you unless you need DSD or sample rates above 96kHz.

>>56270398
>>56270407
Also a Schiit Modi is good, you can get the Uber for more connection options, or the Multibit if you're into that but it's probably not worth it. Also it can sample up to 192kHz.

>>56270407
My budget is pretty flexible, I've been saving up a lot just to be able to get a good dac. Ty for the advice btw.

I heard about some headphones by Blue. I like their microphones, so I was wondering if the cans are worth the price tag.

>>56270056
If I use Bluetooth headphones with the aux cable(hybrids), would I notice the quality difference between Bluetooth and wired?

>>56270375
Go for the K702, at 135€ in Amazon France is a nice deal. These are good headphones, and if you don't like them for any reason you can return them.

>>56270456
I assume you have active speakers or already own an amplifier. What do you want from this "DAC"? Most people asking for a DAC really mean more than it, often a preamp. What do you intend to plug into the inputs? What kinds of outputs do you need? Does it need features like remote, volume control, switchable inputs/outputs of different types, networking capabilities, Bluetooth etc? Does the form factor matter? You could really at least provide a maximum budget. Options for a "DAC" range from under 50 dollars to thousands.

>>56270918
Thanks I'll go for it then

Hi /hpg/
Best pair of in-ears for long flights?
Budget: ~$150
powered with my phone/tablet to watch shows on the go

>>56271328
For your budget? MA750.

>>56270375
this. just got them yesterday. good buy.

>>56270375
>>56270918
>>56271659
i meant get the AKG k702

What's the best set of closed headphones for $200? I want something with a bit of bass so no AKG's but I'm not a basshead either so I don't want a pair of Beats either. What's something that's more balanced without sounding analytical?

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Are the Sony MDR-V6s really as good as people say they are? I have the chance to buy some but I already have the 7506s. Is there enough of a sound difference to justify having both?

I have an X3ii and seeing as I can use it as a USB DAC/amp, is it worth it to get a dedicated desktop DAC and amp or should I just use the X3ii?
I don't have any headphones (so far) that need big power but from my own experiences, I don't see it being unable to power even something like an LCD-2.

>>56271963
You should probably be fine. At that point, the main reason to opt for a desktop amp is for the pot.

I need portable closed headphones for traveling /hpg/ and not sure what to get.

>500 USD (flexible)
>Norway
>Galaxy S4 (Phone)
>Full Sized
>Closed
>Very comfortable for very long sessions
>Warm or neutral
>I use HD 650 at home and Sennheiser PX 100-II for portable use

I have looked at Momentum 2.0 wireless and ATH-M40X as my top contenders until now.

I borrowed the Momentum 2.0 wireless from a friend for a bit and I really liked it, I though the noise cancelling would be shit but it was ok. Haven't tried the m40x.

>>56272439
PM3

>>56272439
Either HP50 or PM3.

Both generally fit the neutral leaning warm signature. HP50 is comfier due to the weight but looks retarded, if that's an issue for you. PM3 is closer to the HD650 signature.

>>56272490
>>56272564
Where I live the PM-3 is 610 USD while the Momentum is 412 USD. PM3 is 320 grams, Momentum is 190.

As it is I would not want to walk around outside wearing the PM-3, but they would be more ideal for stuff like plane flights. So I am not really sure yet.

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Anyone know if the AKG K553 is a good deal for 145 euro?

Im using a shitty Razer kraken now

>>56270370
>trashcam

>>56270370
Then maybe you should've posted something like o2/odac instead of what are essentially boutique items

You have no idea if those components are actually any good or not there's no measurements anywhere

>>56271790
No. They're practically the same thing.

i don't know if this is more of a /sqt/ but here it goes.
I have a fiio olympus 2 and a dt 770, the problem is that I can't here footsteps in csgo, I can here the gunfire but nothing of footsteps. What could be the problem? should I play around with an equalizer? and which one?

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Recommend me something with :

>Very forward mids & highs
>Good clarity and "Speed"
>Tight punchy bass that can keep up with 140bpm or higher basslines without sounding muddy and sloppy
>Low impedance, no need for amp
>Full size over ear
>Open or semi open would be preferred
>Supremely comfy

Budget is 200€.

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>>56273596
>speed
Hey buddy I think you got the wrong door, the headfi club is two blocks down

I want headphones which can give me a gf.

>>56274446
Beats by Nigger Dre, or if you're rich, AKG K1000.

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>>56273596
>Good clarity
>"Speed"
>bass that can keep up with 140bpm
>Low impedance, no need for amp
>semi open

>>56271790
MDR-V6s are the best, but don't buy them if you already have 7506s get an actually nicer set of cans instead

Can anyone post that infographic with god tier headphones for different budgets? Friend is being a retard

>>56275311
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Headphones#External_links
>$200 and over headphones
>$200 and under headphones

recommend me some music to play on my momentums, /g/

>>56275325
>>>/mu/

which Audio Player should I use?
OS is Win10

open or closed headphones /g/?

want to buy ~50$ headphones, mostly using it at home but might also use it for travel to work.

I've always like Audio Technica,

ATH-M20x or ATH-TAD400?

Why even are the vsonic VSD1S's even on the headphone guide? Their build quality is shit, they sound like pure fucking mud. I bought some chink earbuds which are 10x better.

>>56274628
What? Those aren't memes.

>>56275350
foobar2000

Sennheiser Momentum 2.0 (270€) or Urbanite (100€) for jack of all trades closed headphone?

What's the /g/ opinion on Sony? Able to get a brand new pair of MDR1A Sony headphones for about 1/3 the price due to a friend who works for Sony, should I pull the trigger? They seem to have pretty good reviews competing with the AKG/Sennheiser/AudioTechnica offerings in the same price range

The magnet on an AntLion ModMic won't fuck with the headphone sound, will it?

Yeah I know it's too expensive but I've got an Amazon giftcard burning a hole in my pocket and make poor decisions

AMP to drive AKG K712's?

Ideally I'd like to spend at most 100 - 150 for both. Currently I'm using an astro mixamp (I know I know, but I got the a40's as a gift) but that chink piece of shit hardly works.


Someone near me is selling their schiit modi on Craigslist for 80$ I might go with that.

>>56276724
>modi
meant to say magni

>>56276724
modi is a DAC, not an amp

I need in-ear's that can fit under industrial headphones for under $150.

>>56276580
no

>>56273988
Do you not understand transients or something? Speed is a colloquial term for transient performance because it approximates the perceptual experience.

>>56274628
These aren't memes. I will say that impedance is, by itself, does not provide sufficient information to determine power requirements. You need to additionally know either the power efficiency or sensitivity.

>>56277698
Transients aren't real, dude. Are you going to ask about '''''''''''''soundstage'''''''''''''' next?

>>56277718
You are literally retarded. Read any book about the basics of acoustics engineering, here's one: https://www.amazon.com/Master-Handbook-Acoustics-Alton-Everest/dp/0071603328

>>56275376
>open or closed headphones /g/?

>mostly using it at home but might also use it for travel to work.

Depends on how often you travel. If you plan on using the headphones at home 90% of the time, get open and compliment them with some IEMs.

>open back, cause i'll only be using it at home
>doesn't really need to be good specifically at high or lows, i listen to all kinds of music.
>budget around 1000€
any recommendations?

>>56278456
You don't need to go anywhere near that price. Just buy the hd600's and a cheap amp like the e10k

>>56273596
To break down those terms...

>forward
Emphasized in amplitude. Basically you want a bass light headphone if mids and highs need to be very forward.
>clarity
Perception, mostly related to the frequency response and more precisely a certain kind of response. Emphasized 3-4 KHz tends cause the impression assuming the rest of the response is fairly even.
>speed
Defined in the frequency response. It's not really speed you are looking for as speed merely means higher bandwidth and that isn't limited in headphones. Response within the passband is. People tend to describe a certain kind of frequency response as fast such as the Grado house sound.
>Tight punchy bass that can keep up with 140bpm or higher basslines without sounding muddy and sloppy
Yet again, frequency response. What I think you are imagining here doesn't happen. Your headphones are in minimum phase. They are moving exactly according to the input signal, not lagging behind it or somehow "not keeping up". Time and frequency are inseparable. When the transducer can't keep up, it drops in sensitivity and bandwidth cuts. This happens near or well above 20 KHz in most headphones, not at 140 Hz midbass.
>Low impedance, no need for amp
Impedance is not a concern and low impedance doesn't mean the headphones don't need an amplifier.

ATH-AD900X maybe?

>>56278719
okay, the hd 600 does indeed seem to be a great option but don't you think a cheap amp/dac like that would sort of... bottleneck it?

>>56279086
Doesn't really work that way. You could get an o2+odac or schiit magni/modi if you wanted something more expensive

>>56279086
Not the anon but no, not necessarily. It depends on your volume requirements more than anything else. E10K is fine, probably more than most people need really, but it's not the end all of amplifiers of course. You might want something that has better performance(even if not audible with the HD 600), better build quality, better I/O options or features like gain settings. Look for O2+ODAC or Magni 2 + Modi 2 if you want something better. There are better options on the market still but the price creeps up quickly near or over your budget and the benefits might not be important at all to you. Benchmark DAC1 is worth checking out as are some of the more expensive offerings by Schiit and Violetric.

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>>56279175
>Violetric

>>56279175
>>56279116
woww, i see what you mean, but when i was talking about "cheap" i meant the amp part. i know that anything odac is enough for a dac.

but i was indeed already looking at the magni + modi and the hd600 seems like a great fit, thanks anons

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>>56279276
Something wrong with Violetric?

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>>56279331
yeah. also with schiit for that matter.

>>56279331
everything

>>56279350
jesus christ that should be the response of a loudspeakers without a sub not a fucking amplifier

>>56279086
I owned the odac wih my hd600's until I tried my brothers e10k.

They both sound exactly the same after extensive testing with the 600's and I think it's because they're fairly easy to drive despite being 300 ohms.

Using any other amp and especially tube amps will just add more warmth (color) which head-fi fucking loves for some reason. The 600's are warm enough as it is.

Don't fall for the memes.

>>56279393
>my brother and i shitposter
out

>>56279326

If you want an amp for the hd600's do yourself a favor and buy the e10k, it sounds EXACTLY the same with the 600's. If you also have other uses for the odac then by all means get it for the extra power but otherwise you're just wasting your money.

>>56279451
Ah the 702 faggot. I've already backed my claims with picture evidence multiple times you pathetic cunt.

When will you give it a rest? jdo you do anything but lurk on hpg 24/7?

Jesus christ.

>>56279519
>picture evidence
lol

"we don't know how to perform abx or double blind testing but we swear we did it, we have the proof in a photo!"

kys

>>56279356
Elaborate please.

>>56279371
>-2dB at 20 Hz
>jesus christ
It looks like an output transformer coupled tube amplifier response more than anything else. While that is not really competent, it's hardly audible.

>>56279475
>>56279393
What's with the fixation of forcing the E10K into every single rec? You and whoever else might be doing that just end up sounding like a bunch of shills who are concerned about some random anon's wallet.

>>56279553
>It looks like an output transformer coupled tube amplifier response
>solid state
>"flagship" product
they're incredibly incompetent why would anyone buy their products, that's the response i'd expect from a cheap smartphone.

>>56279175
>Benchmark DAC1
Discontinued. Retailers can still have stock, but production would have long since ceased.
>Schiit and Violetric
They make some products with questionable performance, but they can work as well as anything else.

>>56279350
Transfer magnitude is dependent on the impedance of the load presented to the amplifier.
What this says to me is that they picked a poor choice of DC filter for whatever the test load is.

>>56279583
IF measures THD+N with 3 different loads.
i imagine tyll would pick a load that gives the best result when measuring FR

>>56279553
2db is definitely audible. Generally you should aim for around 0.1db difference

>>56279645
At 20 Hz with most of the audible band in use e.g. during music? Definitely not audible. With a sine tone yeah, you can probably hear an amplitude change of 2dB at 20 Hz if you A/B it.

>>56279536
I've backed up all of my purchases and given honest answers. You do nothing but talk shit about the 600s because of "muh 702's"

>>56279664
Ok yeah I forgot we're talking about 20hz here
Still garbage amp though...

>>56279553
anon asking the recommendation here, what dac and amp or combo would you say goes wel with the 600?

>>56279673
i own sennheiser headphones, you're just conveniently trying to portray me as the 702 poster because you're such an easily identifiable shitposter.

>I've backed up all of my purchases and given honest answers.
how pathetic do you have to be to not only seek confirmation from random people on the internet, but think they care about what your shitty uninformed opinions are?

>>56279553
The only thing i'm trying to force are extra dollars/pounds into peoples pockets.

I've owned the odac and the e10k and both sound exactly the same with the hd600.
I bring up the e10k when people mention the 600 because it seems that people gravitate towards the odac for obvious reasons, the same as I did.

It's a waste of money with the 600's. Period.

>>56279702
Wait are you the HD600 poster from before? I could swear you argued that your o2+odac sounds a ''little bit'' different than the e10k

>>56279684
If you're not the 702 poster then fair enough.

When have I seeked confirmation from random people? all I do is give my honest opinion on the e10k and the odac ONLY with the hd600.

What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>56279739
"i've back up all of my purchases"

the fact that you feel the need to justify your purchases is seeking confirmation, you retard.

>>56279728
no, i'm the one that asked for a recommendation in the first place

>>56279728
Yes I am and I openly apologized and admitted that you were right afew weeks ago lol. I don't come here often and you obviously weren't here that night.

>>56279758
whoops, nevermind. could've sworn it said (you)

>>56279755
I'm not seeking confirmation at all. I'm stating that I'm not a blatant shitposter like 90% of the people here and you know it. Anyone can make up anything here and say that x is better than y.

>>56279856
just like you made up the fact that you did a proper double blind test.

>>56279787
Oh okay cool.
>>56279800
Seems like the e10k is the way to go. I personally got a o2+odac combo, mostly because of my own subjective beliefs.

If you're European headnhifi sells a desktop version of o2+dac for a pretty good price and the build quality is superb.

>>56279787
To make it clear I posted on the lines of " to the anon debating with me about the odac and the e10k the other night, i'm sorry and you were right"

I can admit when I'm wrong, who else here fucking does that?

I'm no shit poster.

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>>56279882
Can confirm head'n'hifi is great, kinda regret selling off my nice gunmetal 'limited edition' now.

>>56279025
Nice post. A comment:
>Your headphones are in minimum phase. They are moving exactly according to the input signal, not lagging behind it or somehow "not keeping up"
An intuitive way to see a minimum phase system. That works close enough, but the system will store energy for a period of time at various resonances, amplitude peaks.
What having a minimum phase does mean is that by flattening out the amplitude you flatten out the phase, and smooth out the impulse response.

That can also follow from time and frequency domains being a pair of conjugate variables.

>>56279617
Most sites test devices using the same load as a form of standardizing the measurement procedure.
A quick search doesn't show his test procedure, you'd have to point to that for me.

>>56279882
I'm the guy saying that the e10k is exactly the same as the odac with the 600. However I also got my odac from headnhifi and they are brilliant in every way so I would also vouch for them if you're set on an odac etc.

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danks guys, didn't think i would actually get some helpful advice from here

guess i'm going with a nice pair of sennheisers with an o2/odac comb.

>>56279951
like i said, i'm just guessing.
he's currently in the process of reworking his methodology for amp measurements.

whoever recommend violetric should go ahead and prove the amps don't measure like crap. i've yet to see a violetric amp that performs well.

>>56280069
Hope you enjoy it, it will be a great set up.

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So what's getting released at the Schiit Show tomorrow?

>Another SchiitShow? Yes. And after this one, desktop audio may never be the same. We’re introducing a new product that is a real rule-breaker…and potentially a real game-changer.

>>56280069
You will love the 600's they're god tier m8. It seems you've made up your mind with the odac over the e10k and that's fine. It's a slight waste of money with those headphones imo but the odac is a powerful and useful amp in general. For example I connected mine with my ds4 pad to use with my ps4. The e10k cant even get close to the same volume to make that setup viable.

>>56280323
>a real rule-breaker
it's gonna be another amp that blows up the drivers

>>56280323
No idea. Maybe a budget version of the ragnarok

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>>56280323
Mike Moffat's Nobel winning effort at circuit design I'm sure.

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>>56280439
http://www.stereophile.com/content/schiit-audio-ragnarok-integrated-amplifier-measurements

What's a good track to test sound quality? Gimme a few of 'em.

Preferably some music I can understand, which would be rock or classic metal.

>>56280571
Something you are familiar with.

Talk me out of an internal soundcard or tell me which ones aren't a really bad idea.

Don't tell me about the distortion I'm not hearing on my mobo because I will laugh at you.

>>56280571
Just listen to tracks you already know very well.

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Remind to use only quality Japan source.

>>56280658

Not quite working and this is why I ask, I'm getting more impressed with videogame performance than with general music performance, actually.

That's why I was curious about a surefire track or something.

>>56280571
https://mega.nz/#F!w1YCnbxb!FG7-FzpI1f7LkOQFJ3QKaA

>>56280323
>http://www.audiostream.com/content/qa-mike-moffat-schiit-audio#Dv6BIEZCvOpdKmge.97

I'll never understand audiophiles. This guy has been ''designing circuits'' for like 50 years and he makes products like USB hubs, or multibit dacs, trying to ''innovate'' audio.

>There is one other product that I am working on which is a new and completely different product category. It is not a D/A nor A/D converter, amplifier, DAP, nor anything resembling any product ever built in support of audio. The seeds for it were inadvertently planted when I played in a bluegrass group 50 years ago and wondered why expensive, old instruments sounded far better than newer ones. We call it “The Manhattan Project” and I have a prototype “Gadget” running which is absolutely hair raising. It operates only in the digital domain.


>wondered why expensive, old instruments sounded far better than newer ones.
There's literally been studies done that show old instruments sound the same as new ones.

I guess some people just don't care about science, but he's an electrical engineer for fucks sake, isn't that a science field?
There must be something I don't understand about audio, because every time I go read something other than NwAvGuy's blog shit starts blowing my mind

Purchasing a portable dac/amp. It's down to these two:
JDS Labs C5D
Oppo HA-2

Anyone heard both? How do they compare?

>>56280691
Kek that setup is great, but the cod ds4?

Fucking hell.

I got my rock zircons today. They sound bretty good. What's wrong? Or more to the point, how much would I expect to spend to get a better pair of IEMs?

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coming from mdr v6s and ad700s driven off a asus xonar dg, will Oppo PM3s or HE400i driven off a o2+odac be a large jump?

>>56280695
Well, this is mostly personal, but Pink Floyd stuff usually has excellent production.

Good headphones are expensive here, but four years ago a relative traveled to the US and gifted me a Panasonic HTF600, since they seemed to be the king for cheap. To my inexperienced ears, they sounded AMAZING (I loved the bass, Army of Me was a great opener to test them), but the construction was rather poor and and they broke down eventually.

I've only gotten cheap generic pairs since then, but today the position has been presented again, and I can spend no more than 45 dollars. Strongly thinking about getting them again, but just in case I'll ask: anyone knows if a contender has stepped up for that price?

>>56281622
Have you considered maybe chink headphones instead from aliexpress or eBay?

>>56281260

yes

the oppos are easier to drive but I'd suggest the hifiman as it will be a totally different sound and a good companion to your closed mdr-v6s and bass light 700

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Does anyone know if the new xiaomi IEMS are any good

>>56280879
Between those 2, I'd go for the Oppo, it's a very nice device and sounds excellent. I haven't heard the C5D but I can't imagine it's noticeably better, however the Oppo's build and aesthetics are great.

>>56281761
Every time that I've considered buying online I'm set back by shipping prices thinking "ok if I'm gonna have to wait a month for them to arrive and pay like $30 shipping I'd rather just wait until I have $200+ and get my endgame pair". It's hard to justify buying $50~ things when the shipping price is comparable to the objects themselves, so this opportunity is rather nice cause I skip all that shit.

I retract my question though. I've looked around and the other options at this restrictive price range don't convince me completely, and there seems to be no wacky offer going around, so I'd rather go with something I've already tested.

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>>56281885
It's usually free shipping lol

>>56281969
This from that AliExpress site? Good to know... but that pair's quality seems super sketchy. I have some Sennheiser right now so I'll lump all the chink shit for sub 40~ into the "not an improvement" category. My Sennheiser are like the absolute cheapest ones though (all Google results of the model are from India actually), so they're kind of shit (which is why I believe the Panasonic will be an upgrade).

>>56282010
That was just a sample, lol, check forums for what's good.

>>56282075
Ohh alright maybe I find some hidden chink gold in there will check it out

>>56280323
Jewd already leaked what it is. Nothing particularly exciting.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/818323/schiit-jotunheim-review-preview-head-fi-tv

So I've been thinking of starting gym recently. Any in ear wireless, preferably with mic you guys can suggest?

https://discord.gg/4u9vy

For anyone who wants to join the exclusive club

>>56282707
Looks pretty good actually, I may finally get a balanced amp if the reviews are good.

okay HD 600's or HD 650's need someone to make this decision for me. i need to get on this adorama deal before it ends

>around $75
>USA
>Computer
>Full Sized
>open
>I'm gonna be wearing these all day so comfy would be nice
>Preferred tonal balance
>Logitech g230 they aight but break too easy and don't sound the greatest

>>56283335

650

600s are too boring for me

can't go wrong either way

>>56270056
>anything but Beats
Poorfags.

k612 or dt880?

Will the Objective 2/ODAC ever drop in price? Should I just get the B stock with the cosmetic imperfections?

>>56283568
They're a little overated for the price though

Prove you're not of african american descent by posting your headphones
> tfw no bass at all
feels good to be white desu

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>>56284202

>>56284178
They're a lot overrated for their price.

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>>56284202

>>56283335
HD650

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>>56284202

>>56284218
AKG K "I can't get this piece of shit to seal properly" 55x

Does there exist a pair of open backs with strong bass, bright and non-offensive treble for <200$?

>>56284718
dt990 is probably the closest though some would call the treble offensive

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>>56276724
>>56276724
here

eyy my K712's came in.

Even with my mixamp that's starting to fall apart it sounds pretty damn good.

>>56284742
unfortunately that's where I'm coming from, they broke and I wanted to take this chance to look for something slightly different but hitting the same sort of marks. didn't really find the treble offensive on those though.

>>56271735
The Akg K7xx has a three decibel bass boost...

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>>56279935
>>56279882
>tfw too poor for O2+DAC version
>had to go with amp only

One day I'll have both06

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>>56284855
MORE SCOOPS

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>>56284899
I like memes

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>>56284918
How interesting..

How's the bass on the AKG 702's?

>>56285210
non-existent

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got these yesterday

did I mess up

>>56282707
That's not the only thing they'll be showing off. Jason's been hinting at some 2-channel (aka speaker) stuff in the future, so I'm guessing it'd be something to do with that.

>>56285415
>xtreme bass
Indicators point to probably.

>>56285494
it says Xtreme but it's not very bassy, they're very comfortable on my head as well

>>56285513
>but it's not very bassy
don't know what kind of nigger you are but those are some of the bassiest headphones out there

just bought a pair of 668b's because i tried to cut some 30 dollar ear pads to fit my t50rps and it didnt work

just fucking kill me

>>56285563
I dislike bassy audio so maybe it's something on my end but I seriously don't find these to be bassy

however after a few hours of use, the thing that's starting to bother me a little is it blocks out too much external noise and it's giving me that weird sensation you get from noise cancelling headphones where the silence starts to weird me out

>>56285735
Hope you like treble rape

>>56285889
thanks I'll EQ it out

AKG K702 - 145€
Beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium - 166€
Sennheiser HD 600 - 242€

Headphones prices are starting to fall down in Spain for some reason. I hope they don't go up again. Feels good, man.

>>56286062
tfw for the first time eurofags have lower prices than americans for something electronic

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Thanks anime

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>>56286363
>dynamic drivers

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are these klipsch in ears worth it?

they are on clearance everywhere

http://www.ebay.com/itm/321993110316

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Do you think importing chink IEMs (sold on Amazon but shipped by some Chinese company) to Europe is a good idea? They're heavily discounted but I worry about warranty and stuff.

>>56286411

$35 fuck

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>all these black lines
fuck

>>56285415
oh god what the fuck lol i remember buying those a few years back for $10 lol

>>56286062

Factually a lie, what shop?

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132020&cm_re=ASUS_Xonar_DG_5.1_Channels_24-bit_96KHz_PCI_Interface_Sound_Card-_-29-132-020-_-Product

cop or not

>>56287517

Get the xonar dx instead, then uni low latency drivers.

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what would you guys prioritize first for VR, soundstage or isolation?

>>56287862
isolation for maximum immersion

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>>56284202
I'm brazilian so, uh, mix of european, african and native american FR?
>>56287862
Isolation, the very concept of immersion implies in immersing your senses in whatever you are doing in detriment of sensory stimuli of your own world.
With that said, a good stage wouldn't hurt in case you already have an well isolated environment.

>>56287478
https://www.amazon.es/

My HD600s came new out of the box with the L and R audio jacks reversed in the cups. Da fuck? Is that something that happens?

It seemed to function. It's just that all the sounds were opposite of what they should have been.

>>56288415
sennheiser quality control

>>56288415
Where did you buy them from? Maybe B-stock? Dunno. Mine came with the cable disconnected, as far as I remember. Anyways, I'm sure you'll enjoy these cans.

>>56288415
What do you mean by "the L and R audio jacks reversed in the cups"?

>>56288444
I got them from Amazon. Really makes me question if they are used or some shit.

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Should i? Feeling like hoarder for lusting after another pair of headphones when i already have two.

>>56288673
what do you think those headphones can provide that you current headphones can't?

>>56288415
Buy a heapdhone not having a stupid proprietary cable next time.

>>56288462
Red was in left, Black was in right. I honestly didn't notice till this morning. When I yanked the cables out, the plug clearly labeled L was plugged into R and vise versa.

Excuse me if someone asked this before, but what do you think about Philips SHB3060?

>>56286551
nobody have those or at least the non s version?

>>56288415
That seems unusual. Just switch them over there's nothing to worry about

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>>56286411
>are these klipsch in ears worth it?
>they are on clearance everywhere
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/321993110316

M30X for 70€ or M40X for 110€? I don't use amps/dacs and my sources are phone and pc.
I guess the M40X would have a higher volume with my phone considering the lower impedance but are the 40€ worth it?

Need a gaymen headset with mute/unmute feature £200 max thanks

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>>56270056
My brother got some t40 rp's for work since they're closed. Obviously they don't sound as nice as the 600's but they're bretty good for the money and they have a good amount of bass.

>>56270056
I'm looking for advice on earphones

>Budget
around 50 EUR

>Location
Netherlands

>Source
My laptop audiojacket

>Comfort level
high (I'd say around 52)

>Preferred tonal balance
my music taste varies a lot so something that would do OK with everything

>Past headphones
Senheiser something, they were terrible build quality (cord broke) but the audio was ok

Any AKG 7XX owners know of a site to buy a replacement cable?
Nothing is wrong with mine, just rather have something sturdier, possibly braided just to look nicer

>>56290628
You can buy cables for the 702 etc that will fit your 7xx's

Search on ebay. You can get ones with solid metal ends.

>>56290666

Yea, I do own the 7xx variant, but I'm aware of the 700 series having the same cable, i'll check ebay, thanks mate

>>56290689
No problem. Most of them have the same style and I tried a few different ones over time with my 702's in the past and they all sound exactly the same as the stock cable. There's no need to worry about the quality of them in general unless you buy something that looks like a real piece of shit lol

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Best full size headphone up to 150€?

These are my options:
1. Sennheiser Urbanite XL (120€)
2. Creative Aurvana Live 2 (90€)
3. DT770Pro 32Ohm (150€)
4. ATH Meme50x (160€)
5. Overpricennheiser Momentum 2 Over Ear (260€ but only if they're absolutely amazing compared to the competition)

Preferred sound signature: V shaped or slightly bassy
Disliked sound signature: whatever the HD598 has because I bought them and found them boring and unengaging as fuck
Amp: NOPE
Genres: trance (uplifting, vocal, psy), jpop (AKB48, anime eurobeat, vocaloid), classical, orchestral (TSFH, soundtrack), playing vidya
They have to be comfy as fuck and with big pads.
Isolation: not excessive, I'd actually prefer open back with no isolation but if the 598 is any indication open back are too bass light.

>>56290861
That DT770.

>>56290900
Reasons?

>>56290935
It matches your criteria. It's distinctively V-shaped and in that way very different from the HD 598. 32 Ohm version doesn't need an amp. I don't remember anyone saying they're uncomfortable but I've heard the opposite a lot of times. They do isolate quite a bit.

Philips Fidelio X2 could be an option for you but they are too expensive.

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Is there a way to wear them? The backside of my ears really hurt after an hour.

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Budget: ~ $50, (a little bit flexible, if they’re gonna last)
Location: US
Source: My HTC 10, which has a pretty decent DAC
IEM Preferred.
Comfort level: something I can wear while getting /fit/, probably. I don’t need to fall for the “sports earbuds” meme though.

I haven’t owned anything noteworthy in the past.
Thanks fag/g/ots

>>56291079
they are just too small then

>>56291117

bummer

I pretty much need these just for talking to my faggot guild while I play WoW. Surround sound would definitely be nice.

>Budget
~£40 ($53 €47), good to go slightly higher.
>Location
UK
>Source
Some Razor keyboard.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized.
>Open or closed
Definitely closed.
>Comfort level
I can deal with not too comfortable, but I'll be wearing them a lot, so not too uncomfortable either.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, but I don't really mind.
>Past headphones
XTREME GAMER HEADSET

>>56291224
Just get any argos sony piece of shit for that price m8

>>56291588
Okay cool. Just checking there isn't some great-for-its-price wonder that I'm missing.

Hey guys!

>below 200 USD (lower better)
>USA
>Earbuds (need ones that don't go into the ear canal, like the Apple earbuds.)

>>56292221
Forgot, these will be used on my phone., pretty comfy please.

>>56290427
anyone?

>>56292239
VE Monk for $5. I just threw out all my expensive earbuds after getting these. They sound FAR better than the earpods and also the Sennheiser MX580, AKG Y20, etc.

>>56292789
That doesn't sound right.

Best amp/dac for DT770 80ohm?
$250 max budget

>>56292881
e10k

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>>56292871
It's true m8. Here you can see all my earbuds. Monk is BY FAR the best one. It's definitely much better than the earpods.

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>>56292949
This one? And is there a better option for a higher price?

>>56293059
I said VE Monk, this one
https://aliexpress.com/store/product/Venture-Electronic-VE-MONK-earbud-earphone/1924356_32417311324.html?storeId=1924356

You can also buy from their site here:
https://www.veclan.com/engappliance_sel_one?eng_ApplianceVo.eac_id=4

Since they cost only 5 bucks, if you like them then you're set, if you dislike them you only wasted 5 bucks and have a decent earbud to use as a backup.

>>56292881
e10k easily

>>56292949
Wat fiio player is that?

>>56293332
It's the E07K portable amp/dac.

>>56292927
>>56293312
would that one drive a 600ohm dt880 too?

>>56293188
Thanks dude, also they accidentally sent me another pair for free.

>>56293384
Honestly no idea. As a guess no.

If it's not strong enough for them the next step would be the odac but it's a big step up in price.

>>56293444
>also they accidentally sent me another pair for free

What?

By the way, I have like 10 pairs of these between the first generation Monk and the Plus, I have one for each of my device. This is literally my favourite earbud because it sounds good, is dirt cheap, and I can't even feel it in my ear to the point I sometimes literally forget I'm wearing them.

these have been the meme earbud on Head Fi for ages and for good reason as they're literally the best in the $5-100 price range. From what I can tell, if you want something better you can get the other VE earbuds but they're high impedance, or move to some other obscure brands like Shozy or Rose (which I haven't tried but people on head fi seem to like them the most).

Any good headset for online calls and gaming?

>€50
>IT
>Full sized
>Closed
>Comfortable

>>56293574
Su Amazon.it le Hyperx Cloud sono attorno ai 60€. Vanno bene per tutto.

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Is the DTX 910 a good entry level headphone? I've found it for around 50 euros. Is there any better open headphone for 50 euros?

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LGTSS

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Despite the poor soundstage I absolutely love my PM-3s. Super comfy and look as slick as they sound.

>>56293738

Forget open headphones for 50 euros. The DT 990 is where open headphones start at, and it doesn't get good until 300 euros, HD600s or Fidelio X2/00s

If you want something for 50 euros get an ATH-M30x.

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>>56293800

>>56293738
Yes. If you don't mind on-ear headphones, Koss Porta Pro are still a great option. If you want over-ear headphones, you can try either Sennheiser HD518, AKG K240 or Philips SHP9500.

>>56293840
> The DT 990 is where open headphones start at, and it doesn't get good until 300 euros, HD600s or Fidelio X2/00s
Lol no.
In terms of price/performance ratio, the best open headphones are:
1) 50-100 €: AKG K240, Philips SHP9500, Sennheiser HD518
2) 100-150 €: AKG K612, Sennheiser HD558
3) 150-300 €: AKG K702/K701/Q701, Beyerdynamics DT880 600 Ohm
4) 300 € + : Sennheiser HD650

>>56293870
Have you thought of updating to the flow?

>>56294012
Yes, however would need to ship overseas and I've only recently got them. So I'm not totally sold on it yet.

Anyone here tried any high-end earbud like Shozy Cygnus, VE ZEN, Ting Musicmaker, or other expensive chinese earbuds?

>>56293870
What do those fostex sound like compared to the 600's and 650's?

I've always wondered what an expensive closed pair of headphones sounds like compared to good open ones.

>>56294196
Nothing alike, which is why I like them.
I can't really write like an audiophile so I won't bore you with details, but it has very strong yet clear bass. I discover songs again; it goes well with electronic music. The 650 in turn is good for everything.

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>>56293800

>>56294253
Cool. Is the bass the big draw for them then?

Aesthetically they're stunning. That obviously helps.

>>56294367
I'd say so.
I've used the D2000 previously, it is quite similar and comfortable.
I'm trying to keep the black/red theme in my collection, so that helps :^)

How good are the 668b's unmodded?

>>56294520
Uncomfortable with some of the worst pads I've seen and painful treble.

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>>56294306
You could at least use some proper downscaling

On another note if Jotun doesn't cut off pre outs when headphones are plugged in maybe I'll try building a SuSy Dyanahi with balanced loop outs.

>>56286044
>using EQ

>>56286551
please respond

>Budget
Around £50
>Location
UK
>Source
Mobile phone/MP3 Player
>Preferred type of headphone
Would prefer over ear but on ear is an option.
>Open or closed
Open/Semi-Open so I can hear through the headphones.
>Comfort level
High as I'm gonna use these at the gym or while running,so long as they stay on can don't hurt my ears.
>Preferred tonal balance
Used mainly for jazz and rock but preferably a little bassy.
>Past headphones
Takstar Pro 80, Seinnheiser HD 201 (what I previously used for running but them being closed messed with my awarenes)

>>56295184
Koss Porta Pro

>>56295068
A good idea if cheap (<=30€, what it cost me to replace my Westone in Europe)

>>56295553
they're like $160 but amazon has em for $50 off

>>56270056
What cheap iems are good for running lads?

I own the KZ ed9's and they're brilliant in general but the metal ends are heavy and the one side keeps slipping out when i'm on the treadmill.

As a side note what about the koss porta pros? they look great aesthetically and look like they would sit firmly whilst running?

>>56295651
You probably won't notice any difference between good ones and the ones that came with your phone while running

i've always wanted to do a second hand, cheapshit, soldering iron bodge job with tech

what would be the best way to go about this with audio equipment (headphones, dac/amp etc)? assume i have nothing but a computer currently.

budget is somewhere near £50 or wherever the sweet spot is for this kind of thing.

>>56295676
I understand what you're saying but I would. my ed9's are the best iem's i've ever tried period.

I just want good iem's that wont sliip out. Or better yet someone who can recommend the porta pros for running on a treadmill.

400-500 budget

previously using shitty sound blaster zxr
am using gnu linucks now.

What do I buy

>>56295729
You mean you want to put an electronic device together? You could start with an o2, but to do any soldering you'd need some tools

>>56295766
>What do I buy
windows 10

>>56295729
I think there's a lot of diy tube amp kits and things like that you can find that are really cheap.

>>56295776
install gentoo

>>56295890
the clitoris

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whats objectively the sweet spot for headphones?

>>56295891
>DF

>>56295920
$300

>>56296018
whats the closest sweet spot to $60?

>>56296088
$80

>>56296105
what are some of the highest efficiency products within the $70-$90 range?

>>56296135
MDR-7506, XPT100, M40x, SHP9500

>>56295920
>objectively
>sweet spot
The audio sweet spot is wholly subjective besides in name. You can't objectively define it.

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>>56295891
4SR and 4XR

>>56296179
i understand that there is a high level of subjectivity in audio equipment however there is also an objective quality that exists and this is what i asked for.

>>56296222
4XR looks rather attractive

>>56296224
Not the same anon but it seems you everyone has the same objective standards for what makes a headphone's "sweet spot" like there aren't people who like analytical or "cold" sounding headphones versus people who like rich or "warm" sounding headphones.

I like listening to drum tracks, what should I be looking for? Bassy headphones? I was looking at the HD681 evo and the M40X, mostly something over-ear and below 100€.

>>56270056
Why is the schitt stack better than the odac?

Give me a real fucking reason. It seems that head-fi loves 'warmth' which is apparently a meme here.

What does the schit add over the o2. Give me a real tangible difference. Is there more bass? if not what the fuck is the point.

>>56296307
i have an extreme amount of disdain for you and your way of thinking

>>56296381
The Schiit stack has better aesthetics IMO even compared to the desktop variants of the O2/ODAC. Soundwise there is not a huge difference, but the Magni 2 Uber has more power on tap.

>>56296381
Pretty sure they're darn close to the same thing.

>>56296224
How would you pick the better product? You can't just assign an audio fidelity/dollar ratio or anything else like that.
There are objective parameters that can be measured. The end result is that headphones can do some aspects of sound better than than others, and worse in other regards. That is engineering, picking a set of acceptable compromises.

If we start talking about other things, electrical equalization, impulse convolution, virtualization, and others, the usual definition of quality goes right out the window.

>>56296381
More voltage and current for the extremely insensitive headphones, vintage headphones mostly.

>>56296473
Uber has roughly the same amount as the 2 in practical terms.

>>56296396
Why should I care if you disdain what I say if it is the truth?

>>56296381
>>56296396
>>56296473
>>56296503

all in all, you just need to listen to what you like and perceive a difference, when you don't, you've hit a ceiling, aim higher, find the next step then meet in the middle

not everyone's ears are the same, yet alone taste can't be ubiquitously neutral

>>56296527
>in practical terms

The Uber has more power, no arguing around that. You may think it doesn't matter but the fact remains that it is higher.

>>56296533
I just want to say that sometimes the ''difference'' can be completely imaginary. And that is fine, too. If some people enjoy having premium items, let them do so.

>>56296677
The difference may just be due to a failure to volume match between comparisons. If you're not using a multimeter or something similar to match outputs, you're probably fucking it up by doing it by ear.

>>56271735
step up $50 and get an hp50. otherwise, msr7 isn't much more than $200 usually. K553 is always under $200, usually around $130 I think. but if can afford an hp50 it's one of the best closed headphones.

>>56296691
I'd say most people don't even fuck around with a/b testing. They just get a new device, hook it up and believe there's a difference. And if they believe there's a difference, for them it's always going to sound different. The reality doesn't matter

>>56296734
True, they probably don't even have both devices at the same time. I bought several pieces of gear just to allow me to a/b more easily but it's still not easy to do properly. And even then it's not blind unless I get my GF or someone to switch stuff and no one has the patience to fuck around with this with me.

My meme50x earpads are too small for my ears so they sit on top of them rather than over them like my old logitech g930 do.

What replacement pads can I buy that'll go AROUND my ears rather than sit on top of them?

>>56272915
I wouldn't buy them off massdrop. they're available everywhere right? and you're going to want to buy somewhere with a lenient returns policy, since that series is notorious for sealing issues. they're great if they fit your head, if not you'll probably want to return them.

>>56273596
k701?

>>56296533
>all in all, you just need to listen to what you like and perceive a difference, when you don't, you've hit a ceiling, aim higher

Are you the fucking ruse master? when you don't hear a difference aim and spend even higher?

Jesus fucking chirst.

If the e10k makes your headphones 'go loud enough' stick with that. if you need more power buy the odac.

There everyone. I just saved you a lot of time.

>>56281834
the hybrid is good if you like something that is heavily bass boosted, it's basically the piston 2 without the highs boost that made it v-shaped. the piston 3 is still the best thing they've put out IMO. though I have not tried the piston air yet.

>>56283335
600. the 650 just takes an already warm and polite headphone too far, to the point where it's basically mud and veil central. the hd600 has enough bass already, with good impact. boost the lower bass with eq if you want. the 650 just doesn't sound clear at all, and the 600 already sounds a tad hazy compared to say a k702.

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>>56284202
Aye

>>56284718
the X2 isn't much more than $200, and if you can stand a 990 the X2 will sound downright tame in the treble compared to that.

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I was looking at some very old photos the other day and saw this... can anybody recognize the headphones? I know it's not the best quality, but my phone is that horrible.

>>56276580
it doesn't, I use one myself.

>>56286062
>AKG K702 - 145€
fucking hell that's cheap for euro prices

>>56297300
No idea. Was your dad a participant in audio kino?

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>>56297390
>>56297390
>>56297390

>>56290861
dt770. evey headphone you have there is bassy, but the 770 does it better than the others. it also will have better build and comfort.

>>56297329
Not that I'm aware of. Why?

>>56297300
It looks like a pair of Realistic Headphones

>>56295737
>>56295651
you need something with memory wire, like the meelectronics m6

>>56295920
~ $100 and ~$300, up and down $50 on each. past that and you should be willing to overpay for something you really want.