LINUS TORVALDS WORKING WITH MICROSOFT

>>56254560
Are you sure thats not Sam Hyde?

>>56254560
fuck him, i never like linus tech tips in first place

>>56254560
What's wrong with that?
He's accepted Microsoft code for Linux in the past too.

Are you just trying to rile g up?
How bored are you?

>>56254581

No, they are working on WINDOWS 10

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FreeBSD is already taken over by Microsoft too

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Everything is fine.

This is fine.

0. Microsoft holds 12345 software patents. Keeps quiet about it. Doesn't enforce them.
1. Microsoft contributes code to Linux and FreeBSD
2. Microsoft waits a year or two
3. Sue the living shit out of Red Hat, Novell, IBM, Intel

>>56254560
Nah, Linus is keeping that m$ fag hanging.

LINUX PURISTS ABSOLUTELY BTFO

>Linux finally gets the corporate backing that every Linux user wanted
>Oh em gee, wtf are you doing Linus, you weren't supposed to let people use our hipster OS

Bunch of idiots.

>>56256868

Linux has had corporate backing for a long time. Most kernel dev is paid for

>>56256924
In the professional market, yes. In the consumer market (which is where it matters for the average user), no.

>>56254560
Bash on windows 10 is working great so far, it actually came in handy when I was studying for my C exam and when I needed gpg and tar xf a file quickly.
Don't need linux besides some tools here and there, but I need windows only tools like visual studio much more often.

Would there even be a reason to boot in to linux instead of windows if they manage to integrate bash flawlessly in windows?

>inb4 muhh botnet

>>56254768
Submarine patents. Once the unlicenced user-base gets big enough the submarine surfaces.
This is what will happen to users of FLAC etc. The people behind xiph.org don't indemnify their users, they just promise not to sue. But nobody knows where the submarine is.

>>56256948
Linux is open source.
All the corporate-sponsored kernel development is available to the consumers, too.

>>56256964
If all you're after is bash, no.
However, bash isn't the main reason many people prefer Linux.

>>56256806
There are a limited number of people who can tolerate Linux. Like people who eat Dutch Licorice. You'd go broke trying to sell Dutch Licorice to the general populace.
In before the enraged Dutch Licorice eater.

>>56256985
>muh kernel

The average user doesn't give a single fuck about the kernel. People don't use windows because of its kernel, stop memeing.

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Why isn't he shown in Op picture?

>>56257000
We were talking about the kernel.

>>56256924 was referring to Linux, which is the kernel.

If you're talking about the OS, it's called Gnu/Linux.

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>>56257015
>If you're talking about the OS, it's called Gnu/Linux.

>>56256988
>However, bash isn't the main reason many people prefer Linux.
Fair enough.

>>56257015

Gnu fags need to kill yourselves

>>56257043
dumb redditor

>>56254560
JUST

linux is only free if your time is worthless

>>56257052
That's Gnu/Fag, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Gnu+Fag.

Linus has infiltrated the enemy and gained their trust. Now he'll move onto Phase 2 of his plan.

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>>56257015

>>56254560
Context?

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Are fags arround confused and think that Linus Torvalds = Stallman the retard?

he is not fanatic
he never was
he already won when he sees and laughs microsoft putting linux virtualization layer in to windows 10

Embrace
Extend
Extinquish

>>56254560

>Microsoft decides to embrace Linux by porting pretty much the entire fucking .NET stack to Linux
>"Oh no, Linus Torvalds is working with Microsoft!"

>>56254768

Any judge worth their salt would immediately throw such a case out. You cannot claim patent infringement on code you wrote and gave license to distribute verbatim.

>>56257137
Stallman must be furious about headlines like this.

>talking to MS people is working with MS people
How about you kids come back when you have a brain capable of rational thought?

>>56257106

Linus works for Microsoft now

>>56258427
True freetards don't fraternize with the enemy.
They code alone in their basement and complain why nobody uses their software they wrote for themselves.

>>56254560
On a side note, i don't know why most loonix purists hate MS so much
They have contributed to the kernel for a while now, even 5-6 years ago they were the top contributor
If anything, Apple is the real problem, not MS.

>>56256991
>he doesn't care about Spyware in his licorice

"Got some updates from Linus. He said, got a free coffee from MS & it was bad. They talked about a man who survives Ballmer's flying chair..." https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/768696964871356416

>>56256964
No custom desktop environment on Windoze. No official package manager on Windoze. Fuck all on Windoze

>>56256991
Dutch Licorice fucking rules.

>>56258568
What you're calling licorice is actually GNU/licorice

I THOUGHT LINUS AND STALLMAN WERE ON THE SAME SIDE I FEEL BETRAYED

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>Windows can run Linux binaries natively, no virtual machine or dual-booting
>releases Powershell for Linux, open-sourced
>porting .NET to Linux
>tfw Microsoft is doing Linux better than Linux does

>>56254560
what the frick?! ... I hate Linus now...

>>56254560
they aren't integrating
its continuation of embrace, extend

this is a bad idea

>>56258774
>GPL? What's that and how does it work?

>>56258609
>No custom desktop environment on Windoze
Good. I don't have to adapt to some autist workflow based in muh tiling wm and also I don't have to suffer the rootkit formerly know as X.org
>not official package manager
It's sad, but there's hope Microsoft will implement one. Meanwhile we have chocolatey. And backwards compatibility, is superb.

>>56258774
>source: me
They have the fucking restrictive shit called GPL protecting them anyways

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>>56254751

>>56258798
>Good. I don't have to adapt to some autist workflow based in muh tiling wm and also I don't have to suffer the rootkit formerly know as X.org
Honestly, I agree. I never realized how much of a pointless timesink customizing WM's was until I forced myself to stop and use the default WM. Going back to Windows, I think the WM it has is actually quite good. It's simple, easy to use, and handles tiling and expansion decently.

Also, package-management is an official part of Windows now. It's just kind of empty because most maintainers and developers don't use it for standard software, where you'd need it the most.

>>56258728
Everyone who wants to port to Linux has an easy time, cause it's open.
Trying to write stuff that emulates Windows is a lot harder since MS doesn't help you.

>>56258826
>handles tiling and expansion decently
this
>split two windows 50/50
>when you drag to resize in the middle both of the m resize
why is this so difficult for Linux WMs?

>>56258774
No. Microsoft's business model is finished. They don't have the power to extinguish anyone anymore.
50% of all devices run Linux now, and Win10 is the last of the numbered versions. It's all incremental updates at no cost from now on. And in that game, they're 5 years behind Google.

>>56254579
Underrated post

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>>56257096
>everyone who disgrees with me is a poorly drawn caricature with a punchable face
Take the ad hominems back to >>>/pol/

>>56258840
X.org?

>>56258826
Install i3. Tiling wm that you want without the need of customization. All I did was remap some keys and it good to go. Honestly, Linux hasn't been timesink or ages now.

>>56254768
Except failure to protect your copyright and patents when you've clearly been aware of the existence of infringing material for a while is the same as forfeiting your right to protect those same copyrights and patents. They can't sue them years after the infringing implementation has been made public and expect to win big. Atleast, that's how I think it's supposed to work. You own patents, you're made aware that there are material infringing on your patents, you contact the related parties and if you fail to come to a mutual understanding, you sue. You can't wait for years and jump straight into suing.

>>56258891
no, sunshine, do this for me
Snap two windows side by side
Then in the middle where they touch resize them.
On pretty much every linux DE/whatever I used it only resized one of them
On Windows 10 they both resize

>>56258896
>without the need of customization.
>All I did was remap some keys.
Anyways, in all seriousness: too late. I have no interest in wasting my time with learning WM's. What I have works well, and I have better things to do when I'm working and funner things to do when I'm not.

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>>56258861
lmao desu

>>56258913
i3wm,sunshine.
Try this for me, snap 3 windows horizontally, and split thebleft window into two.

>>56258728
Technically I could take the source code for Linux, write some weird-ass extension that'll make apps written with this extension in mind only work on my version of Linux, release that, and technically have a product "superior" to Linux by your standards.

>>56258925
Good for you. I am not trying to convince you to use anything.

>>56258944
sure, now give i3 to the regular user and see how that works out

>>56254579
You mean linus shit tips

>>56257137

>linux virtualization layer
you are misinformed. microsoft implemented linux syscalls in their own kernel, in order to support linux programs and make Linus' life's work obsolete.

Soon we will have "sysadmins" who are very familiar with BASH and Linux programs without ever having installed a single line of Linus' code.

>>56258961
>Install i3.
>I am not trying to convince you to use anything.
okay.png

I'm going to stop responding to you now then.

>>56258253
>Any judge worth their salt would immediately throw such a case out. You cannot claim patent infringement on code you wrote and gave license to distribute verbatim.
Not in the land of the free, home of the brave.

>>56258973
>linux syscalls in the kernel
For what purpose? NT supports subsystems, they don't have to mutilate their kernel to do shit a la Linux, only implement a subsystem,

>>56258965
Great point, thanks for giving me an argument. That's the beauty of this OS, everybody can find his preferred way of doing this. I am much more productive with i3, so I use it. Regular users don't need it, so they can use KDE, Mate, Cinnamon or Gnome.
>>56258979
I was replying to your argument that Linux wms are timesink.

>>56258544
>They have contributed to the kernel for a while now
Uh, they contributed some code so that linux works better on their virtualisation platform. Not anything most people give a fuck about.

>>56258826
>Going back to Windows, I think the WM it has is actually quite good. It's simple, easy to use, and handles tiling and expansion decently.
so did xerox parc wm, so did apple
microshit have provided nothing other than a licensing lock-in

>>56258973
>WSL provides a Linux-compatible kernel interface developed by Microsoft (containing no Linux code),
damn, turns out you're right
I always though they just ran straight up linux up in there

>>56259007
>Uh, they contributed some code so that linux works better on their virtualisation platform. Not anything most people give a fuck about.
nope
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2166123/microsoft-contributed-code-canonical-linux-2632

a couple of years ago they were one of the top contributors
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/16/linux_foundation_kernel_report_2013/

>>56259043
The article says exactly what I said.
They were a top contributor by LOC, but that code was for that virtualisation platform.

>>56259067
fuck off

>>56259043
>Corporate code contributions do make up the majority of Linux kernel development these days, and have done so for some time.
Richard Stallman on suicide watch.

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>>56259024
more sophisticated than winshit
what apple managed to adapt

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>>56259043
>Microsoft contributing more Linux code than Linux-only companies.

>>56259076
Actually no. This just proves Stallman's odeas that FOSS can work and can make money.

>>56259078
>>56258944
What timezone are you in? You're obviously not a native English speaker.

>>56259095
>measuring contribution in LOC

>>56259078
& they weren't consistantly messing around with their interface, to try to 'market it'
the interface was a solution -- something microshit haven't managed to do, so far
nobody knows what their WM is supposed to be. Microshit have no idea what their WM is supposed to be. It's low grade, unsophisticated. No design/class. A morass of broken code from the 90s

>>56259111
I hate that they're doing more than others are too. Maybe it's just that they have more money? It doesn't make sense. Linux is free to develop, work on, and contribute to, so why is Microsoft leading the way?

>>56259105
You have replied to two different people. Also, is it that weird for Amerifats to realize that there are other countries and languages in the world?

ITT Neets.

>>56259133
I'm speaking to both of you, lad. Just trying to figure out whether you're actually very angry or just naturally have stilted English. Please, relax a little bit.

>>56259132
Microsoft is not leading anything. As I said, they added para-virtualisation support for their Hyper-V hypervisor, i.e. something 99% of linux users doesn't care in the slightest.

>>56259102
You're misinterpreting Stallman's ideals. If he could have his way, no corporate involvement would be allowed.

>>56259152
>not leading anything
>leading contributor

>>56254579
kek

>>56259162
They stopped being in the top 20 in 2013

>>56259148
>timezone
>a native

>speaking to both of you.
Let's not nitpick on English.

>>56259102
Irónically, Stallman did create his version of FOSS with an anti coorporative spirit.

>>56259162
MS is not the leading contributor, it was some year.

>>56259161
That is not true. He is not a communist. He did say that corporations are evil but he also said that FOSS can be a business and the fact that large companies are contributing is more about Foss in business than corporations being evil.

>>56259193
He IS a communist. Check his site.

>>56256964
it's not only 'bash'
also their bash is barely working
they have "aliases" for everything they can't integrate - aliases with limited functionality. Now they're saying that they can't take them out & that the microshit version is to be used (embrace, extend). No linux advocate should regard this. They're trying to put linux into a little box. There's only 1 windows box (the borg). open source isn't only choice, it's the whole world. why sit in a little shed in the middle of a field, with low grade copy tools. Why go there? Microshit has things like ads, viruses. badly managed infastructure/inconsistancy - beta "upgrades". A whole world of shit. sit in your shitcan in the middle of a field

>>56258913
> my WM has this quirk, if your doesn't have it, you're a faggot
You sure got me there anon. You remind me of linfags 5 yrs ago, touting their wobbly windows and 3d desktop spinnaz. Oh wait, you guys finally got multiple workspaces, good for you

>>56258965
> sure, now give i3 to the regular user and see how that works out
tiling wm are good (see snap assist), but only when MS does it

>>56259201
Give me one of his ideas that makes him a communist

>>56259205
>>56259205
>they have "aliases" for everything they can't integrate - aliases with limited functionality. Now they're saying that they can't take them ou
Now you're confusing Bash on Windows with Powershell
BoW came with the Anniversary update like a week or two ago and is literally Ubuntu

Powershell is supposed to be a replacement for Batch and it came out like with Vista or something

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>>56259218
He likes freedom :^)

>>56259218
>you should make programs for free

>>56259231
He never said that, you idiot.

>>56259206
Not him, but when I tried it, I found that it was actually a very useful feature. Not sure why it hasn't been adopted by any other WM. I often find myself resizing one window and wanting another to resize itself appropriately to take up the space. e.g., resizing the terminal to a thin column on the right with a browser or editor on the left and then enlarging it for more verbose output without losing sight of what's in the other window. There's no "wobbling" or "spinnaz" at all, I have no idea why you brought that up.

>>56259231
> interships were are not prevalent at all in the capitalist world and are not becoming an increasing reality after paying out the ass for an education
niceme.me

>>56259246
Except internship are an outlier

Stallman think's you're the devil if you want to sell you program (and this want to not release the sources, obviously)

>>56259205
The version of Bash used in Windows is literally the same exact binary shipped in Ubuntu's distro. What aliases are you getting mad about?

>>56259255
You can sell programs. You just have to bundle your source code in a human readable format with it and allow the person you sold it to to release or sell it for any price they like, including for free.

>>56259255
FOSS is not neccesarily gratis. Why the fuck do you think he keeps saying "free as in free speech, not free beer"?

Weak bait

>>56259270
>and allow the person you sold it to to release or sell it for any price they like, including for free.
so what the fuck is the point
>you sell one copy
>that other guy then releases the code for free
gee fucking wizz so different

Stop with these fucking threads dipshit

>>56259270
Yes. But he don't intented that corporations were successful with his model, only individuals.
He is very anti corporatist.

>>56259242
Ok anon. I could have been more charitable. I think it's a good feature, I personally have no use for it. I see it as a minor convenience rather than some game-changing feature.

>>56259280
open sores is not GPL-exclusive, ya dip

>>56259280
If it's enterprise-level software with no alternative, you can sell that one copy for several hundred thousand dollars.

>>56259280
>so what the fuck is the point
You give away the software for free and make money from people paying you to talk at their conferences about how great freedom is, duh.

>>56259218
He's a Chavez cocksucker.

>>56259319
then one guy buys it and releases it?

Congrats you made $300 from one guy

>>56259316
We're discussing comrade Stalinman here

>>56259304
The Windows WM isn't a game-changer, it's just a solid and easy-to-use window manager with convenient features. To be honest, if I had a dime for every "revolutionary" WM that just ends up being crap, I'd probably have $100. Sometimes all you want is a window manager that won't shit the bed when one window is floating, doesn't require you to read 2 pages of cheat sheets to alt+tab, and has a number of minor conveniences.

>>56254579
I hope he dies

>>56259333
That was basically Emacs financial model until the internet hit. They'd sell tapes containing the source code for Emacs for several hundred dollars during the 70's and mail them to you. The source code was free, but prohibitively expensive to buy in the first place and then redistribute.

>>56259325
You aren't kidding. This fucking guy is delusional.

>Many middle-class Venezuelan women are choosing to get sterilized because there is a shortage of birth control supplies.
>They may regard this as a loss, but given the disaster that population growth will lead to, I think it is good for humanity if more people in all countries choose to have no more children.
>It is already true around the world that "having a child now [probably] means making him suffer", except for the rich planet-roasters.

>The people now running Venezuela seem to be corrupt and interested mainly in power and money. Naturally, many Venezuelans want to kick them out.
>What is sad is that the likely replacements are corrupt in a different way: they want to sell their country to multinational corporations and would let the US government impose power over it. (Possibly some may also be corrupt in the same way as the current rulers.)
>The new leader that Venezuela needs is an honest libertarian socialist, one that wants to fix the irrational policies such as price controls, and encourage local farms and factories with profits, while keeping the multinationals out.

>There were already some shortages in Venezuala, but they were only for a few goods, and there were usually substitutes. For instance, you couldn't find penne but you could find spaghetti. Now the shortages have become a serious problem.
>President Maduro is doing a lousy job on the economy, and increasingly infringes the human rights of the opposition. I support replacing him.
>At the same time, I am concerned that the right-wing opposition would sell out their country to the multinational corporations, and introduce repression and murder like their counterparts in Honduras.
>The proper replacement for Maduro would be someone like Hugo Chávez.

>>56259390
so what you're saying is that the FOSS model doesn't work in the modern internet age?


(to make money, that is)

>>56259374
I agree with you anon It's almost like different people can enjoy different things without being contrarian faggots about minutiae

>>56259465
Yes, that's the point I was making, anon.

>>56259486
I love you too Anon

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>>56254560
>That picture
SMOKES LETS GO

>>56259394
He hasn't read the Amnesty International bulletins on Venezuela?

>>56259655
Neither have I, since it's capitalist propaganda.

>>56259719
Does a bad job doing capitalist propaganda if also points issues at capitalist countries like mine.

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Dr. Torvalds, I'm CIA.

>>56259806
It mustn't be too obvious.

>>56258253
>Any judge worth their salt would immediately throw such a case out. You cannot claim patent infringement on code you wrote and gave license to distribute verbatim.
Depends on how many bulls you have bought or local teams sponsored lately in west Texas.

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>>56259558

Time to move to NetBSD.
Linux is far too popular anyway.

>>56260064
>muh seekrit klub

>>56258827
>Everyone who wants to port to Linux has an easy time, cause it's open.

HA. Shit ur serious?

HAHA

>>56258913
xMonad does not have this problem :^)

>>56259067
>>56259075

not to mention they were pretty much forced to do it over some licensing dispute

>>56257043
He's right though. Unless you're the kind of person that calls a 747 a "Rolls-Royce jumbo jet".

>>56257052
Without GNU, 97% of the so-called "Linux distributions" wouldn't exist.

>>56257073
Nothing is free, but considering it takes at most a week to get your Linux system up and running, it's better than spending $100 for an OS that will spy on you for the rest of your life.

>>56257096
>referring to a chair as a leg is a typo

>>56258728
>want to run some legacy Windows 3.1 software
>Windows 7 refuses to run it because it's too old
>works perfectly fine in Wine
>tfw GNU / Linux is doing Windows better than Windows does

>>56258794
Linus has nothing to do with the GPL.

>>56259201
He's probably more of a hippie than an actual Communism imho. Unless he's calling for a violent revolution to create a stateless society where the means of production is owned by the workers, he's not a Communist.

>>56259255
You misunderstand "free software". It is perfectly acceptable to charge any price for the distribution of free software, what free software means is that everyone who owns the software has access to the source and can do whatever you want with it. Thus, a program that I write for my own personal use and never leaves my computer is in a trivial sense free software.

>>56259394
He's right with the first one though, unchecked population growth will lead to disaster.

>>56259414
Main way to make money off it is to provide tech support services and so on, for codebases complex enough that it's not really practical to maintain yourself, even though you have the source. This is how most software was done when Stallman was in college, programs were distributed in source form with little restrictions on what you could do with it.

>>56258947
Poettering? Is that you?

>>56260700
>He's right with the first one though, unchecked population growth will lead to disaster.
He's fucking missing the point, retard.

>>56260700
kys

>>56258827
>porting to linux
Porting shit to linux still is a pain in the ass.

>>56260700
>le malthusian meme
Good Goy. Everyone knows that the purpose of population control is the extintion of the european race.

>>56260401
>using X.org dependent shit

>>56260700
Stop using software with hacks to the kernel

Linuxfags want Linux succeed but the moment it does succeed they disown it. Android and ChromeOS are examples of this.

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>>56254571

>>56256868
>strawmanning this hard

>>56261293
>implying that GNU didn't start without an anti corp spirit.

>>56261311
and? you're still strawmanning hard m8.

>>56259132
what's the point?
a few years ago i wrote a driver for some obscure hardware
now there's not really any reason to, you just plug something in and it works.

>>56254768
No way, it's almost like "Extend, Embrace, Extinguish" is a real thing that's been known for years.

>>56257073
Free Speech is only free if your time is worthless.

>>56261332
I'm not him. You still can't negate the fact that Stallman got backfired back in the moment that corporations got involved.
>>56261354
>le epic 90's microsoft maymay

>>56257001
why do balding people brush their hard forward?

it looks so dumb.

>>56259333
not several hundred
several hundred thousand

a single license for a CnC machine's software can run a 5-digit pricetag.

>>56261013
In what way?

>>56261223
Nowhere did I say that the population control measures should target the "european race". Logically, they should be applied most to those regions/groups where population growth most greatly exceeds the ability of the environment to support it, and that most definitely is not regions occupied by europeans.

While it is true that European populations are experiencing declining population growth rate, this is not due to any engineered population control program, but due to the demographic transition to a post-industrial society that prioritizes "quality" over "quantity" (better to have one or two highly educated children than half a dozen uneducated children). It's only in developing countries like China where they have to institute policies to attempt to control population growth.

>>56261259
"Linuxfags" care more about just Linux, the kernel, but their concerns involve the entire operating system. Android is a serious deviation from what is normal for Linux OS's, even if it uses the same kernel.

>>56261360
Nice false equivalency, retard.

>>56261631
It's true though. GNU / Linux is free as in free speech and as in free beer - even free beer requires you to expend effort and time to obtain it.

>>56261593
>In what way?
There's a shortage of birth control supplies (pills, condoms) that's forcing women to get sterilized, and he's fucking justifying it. Do you realize what he's actually saying here?

>>56261593
Good goy.

>>56254643
I'd be glad if Torvalds was working on Win 10. It would be a lot less shitty

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>>56254560
Reminder...

Kernel is the same as the bootstrap right?
I'm not a technology man

>>56258728
well, they do things properly?

GNOME, lots of money.

> 2.x
> shitton of bugs in tracker
> tons of fixes as patches (in comments) on bugtracker
> never apply them
> start dumbing apps down
> drop 2.x support

> 3.x
> start anew, make everything even more dumber
> water down even that dumb interface
> it's almost just one button now

KDE
> 3.x
> a stable, professional work environment
> needs a few fixes, few features
> fuck that, drop everything

> 4.x
> new, unusable, useless
> even today it's useless on a GPU that is not Intel
> never made it to be as complete as 3.x was

> 5.x
> ... should I even start?

So yeah.
Tons of money, tons of devs, tons of skill.
Wasted all around.

10/10

>>56258774
for one thing, I am sure most newbies will just use the "Bash for Windows" thing. heck, even myself I would use it, because it's comfier than a VM or a dual boot.

so yeah, Microsoft now did manage to steal tons of people.

>>56261354
Again with that bullshit?

>>56254560
"If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won." -Linux Torvalds

>>56262655
I can do that too.

''if Chad cucks me, it means I've won''

>>56254560
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Microsoft/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Microsoft plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Microsoft system made useful by the Microsoft corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the Microsoft system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Microsoft which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Microsoft system, developed by the Microsoft Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the Microsoft operating system: the whole system is basically Microsoft with Linux added, or Microsoft/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of Microsoft/Linux.

>>56262722
I bet five bucks that you agreed with that quote back in time.

>>56262655
>"If Microsoft ever does applications for Linux it means I've won." -Linux Torvalds

Embrace...

>ITT: Freetards who can't be happy they won

>>56262748
Well then find a time machine and prove it, dickhead.

>>56262764
Linus is the only winner. He wanted to make Linux a commercial thing.

If MS offer Linus say $10B for Linux, would you think he will be tempted?

The answer would be fuck yeah - everyone has their price and he's getting older and his interest will diminish.

>>56262752
"if you kill your enemies, they win" - Linux Thorwalls.

>>56262800
Offended mate?

>>56262815
So?

Linus is too pragmatic for me.

I don't like this. I'm scared of Microsoft even if they are just a husk of their old self.

>>56262815
If he does that, people will just fork it and direct all contributors to it instead.

You can't just sell out free software.

>>56262994
yes, ms is like an injured animal in the corner, not dead but willing to fight for survival at all costs.

>>56262994
>I don't like this. I'm scared of Microsoft even if they are just a husk of their old self.
Relax son, Linux won't go away no matter what Microwang does. This is all just the first of their death throes, if anything. They're just catching on to how far behind the times they are in comparison to Apple, Google, and Linux. They're spreading themselves too thin and they WILL fail. Microsoft has never been known for their wise decisions. It's a shame though, it'll probably kill the desktop market when they finally wheeze their last breath.

>>56262994
>>56263100
MS doesn't care about OSs anymore. They are focusing in their Azure thing and the other cloud services

>>56262815
Linus doesn't have the right to sell Linux and close its source.
It's FOSS, not his property. Or rather, it is his property, just as much as anyone else's.

>>56254560
This is why we need to direct our attention to Hurd, Linux is great but we can't just let it rot

>>56263231
Doesn't he own the trademark though? Or is that owned by the foundation?

>>56263248
He can keep Tux for fucks sake.

>>56254560
This photo was at LinuxCon. Microsoft was one of the top sponsors of LinuxCon this year, Torvalds was basically obligated to speak to them. Linus, not being totally autistic, had pleasant conversation and was polite. This is really not a big deal.

>>56263404
>linus
>not being autistic
How that can be possible?

>>56262043
nice argument, retard

>>56264915
Good goy.

>>56263404
>Linus, not being totally autistic, had pleasant conversation and was polite.
I have a hard time imagining Torvalds being anything but an angry keyboard warrior.

After all, we're talking about the guy that told a dev to retroactively abort himself.

>>56264988
I bet he is like all keyboard warriors: Timid and passive agressive person.

>>56263234
>hurd
>be something
I hope you can use X.org when we'll start to thinking in reeplacing Wayland.

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>>56254560
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

>>56265061
Nice FUD.

>>56264953
nice argument, retard

>>56265101
>$0.01 has been deposited into your account

>>56265134
Good goy.
1 Shekel has been deposited into your account.

>>56265101
did it ever came up in your mind that microsoft would end up creating their own Microsoft Linux distro, slowly trying to take over the consumerbase with business deals? They have the capital and time.

>Microsoft's new cloud customers are turning to Linux four times out of 10. Oh, and its numbers are only increasing.

>Don't take this to mean that Microsoft is considering creating MS-Linux. They're not. "I'd never say never, but we have no such plans," said Coekaerts.

http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-marriage-of-microsoft-and-linux/

>>56265290
Yes.
And you know what I think?
That will be fucking awesome.

>>56265216
epic meme dude

>>56254560
PowerShell on Linux? Fuck yeah

>>56265655
Said no one ever.

>>56258811
this fucking image has never better been used.

>>56265061

Google already did that to desktop Linux and Firefox

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>>56265689

>>56265366
And you know what I think?
You are fucking retarded.

>>56266177
What do you mean?

>>56257092
Was getting caught part of the plan?

>>56263100
>ms is like an injured animal in the corner

>90% market share
>injured animal

OK.

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>>56263404
>Linus, not being totally autistic

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>>56263100
Check em.

>ITT retards who think MS can kill Linux
The whole point of Linux is that it's a community project where anyone can contribute drivers. This alone makes it better than the NT kernel since one size can fit all with a little work and patience. Linux will also never die because Microsoft is spyware. This has been proven over and over. Once they take steps to kill torrenting, piracy, and ad blockers, every normie will be looking up Ubuntu tutorials on YouTube and installing it. Firmware will then prevent the installation of anything but Windows. This will be a death sentence for the manufacturers doing it since everyone wants more open hardware.

>>56254560
pajeet is confused

>>56262815
Pretty sure that unlike GNU, Linux doesn't require a programmer to hand over the copyright with a code submission. Linus has probably contributed less than 1% of the Linux code base at this point.

>>56254730
Microsoft was also one of the largest OpenBSD monetary donors in 2015.

>>56269990
see >>56269999

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>>56263404
>>56254560
>This photo was at LinuxCon. Microsoft was one of the top sponsors of LinuxCon this year, Torvalds was basically obligated to speak to them.

>>56265290
It doubt they will ever make a linux distro, what I believe they are trying to do is cut into Oracle's *nix business software market.

EMBRACE
EXTEND
EXTINGUISH

FREETURDS BTFO

>>56258861
>he thinks /pol/acks would find this offensive
>being this buttflustered

>>56261458
>we'd like your free software
>THAT'LL BE $700,000!
>We'll hire an Indian to do it, tyvm.

Something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay, and knowing the price will be $0 as soon as the first person gets a copy means that nobody is going to pay much more than $0 for the first. Everybody survived just fine without it up to this point, so they'll survive just fine a little longer.

>>56254560
Hopefully torvalds is there to talk some sense into MS locking down on CPUs. >Windows® only™
Fuck that. I want choice of OS with my CPU

>>56258973
that's not the point, the whole reason of the bash for Windows thing was to help developers execute server code (linux) locally, to make it feasible to do things like web dev in linux.

>>56271511
The Kaby Lake architecture isn't windows only, nor could it be feasibly. Microsoft just won't add support for it for Windows machines before Windows 10. Much like how support for many newer CPU architectures hasn't been provided for windows XP. Kaby lake will work fine on linux.

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>>56258973
>and make Linus' life's work obsolete
>and make Linus' life's work obsolete
>and make Linus' life's work obsolete

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>>56254560
Look at that fucking belly. Look at that product placement in background. Look at that fake flannel print on non-flannel-like material. It's sick how normal tech has become. It all seems so cheap and boring. Nothing really fucking holding me to Earth anymore. I guess I float into a cloud and see what can happen to my body if I just rope myself off.

>>56258728
If only they released software for linux that anyone would care about, instead of trying to push their shit code into linux.

I seriously hope that this fraternizing comes to an end soon. Otherwise, microsoft will try to extinguish linux, with whatever dirty tricks they may have to use.

>>56254579
Linus dick tips

Now for an interesting turn of events: What if microsoft made their own linux distro? Such that it was fully compatible with windows binaries, and paid, of course.

Wouldn't that be interesting?

>>56269952
fa/tv/irgin spotted
[spoiler]yes brother, the fire rises[/spoiler]

>>56258912
the whole "not protecting means you don't have rights anymore" only applies to trademarks in the US