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GTX 1060 or RX 480?

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Ok so where I live the Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ OC costs exactly the same as the MSI Geforce GTX 1060 Gaming X.

And that is the maximum my budget allows. I don't know what the fuck to buy. They both have pros and cons that outweigh each other.
I'm at a loss. Anyone have these cards and have some experiences to share?
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please respond
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>>56247126
What games do you currently play or intend to play? Do you plan on playing the latest console ports or prefer to play indie games? How long do you plan on using the card? What monitor are you using? Is it Freesync or Gsync enabled? If not do you plan to upgrade to either technology? Is power usage important to you? Factor these into your decision choices.
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>>56247126
RX 480
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>>56247126
they perform pretty much the same, but the 480 has way more VRAM.

Get the RX480
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>>56247126
is there even a reason paying the extra 20 bucks on the OC version when all you did is paying Sapphire to put the slider a bit more to the right?
anyway the Nitro card is noisy and hot as hell.
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>>56247126
If you want a card that is future proof and will last you for some years then get a 480.

If you are a dumbfuck fanboi with money instead of brains that wants to upgrade cards every month then get the 1060.
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I see no point starting another thread.

I can get used R9 Fury for 50 bucks over 1060, should I go for it? Only 4gig, and a bit outdated tech.
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>>56247126
The 1060 is The Way It's Meant To Be Played(tm) so I'd definitely go with that.
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>>56247126
480 cause DX12
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>>56247126
For the same price the 1060>480 its faster (5-10%) and less power hungry but in the long run the 480 might take the lead with dx12/vulkan.
I'm waiting for the 480 to drop to normal prices and get in stock but also considering the Fury X at $379.
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6GB GTX 1060 all the way desu senpai.
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>>56249252
Not OP but since we're talking about GPUs here anyway, any speculation on how much the next AMD will cost? Probably named RX 490 I think. I would like to try AMD for a change and maybe buy a good one.
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>>56249332
Can't say but if I would take a guess the RX490 would be around 1070 performance/price while the successor to Fury will be close to 1080/ti performance/price. Since both companies are competing closely this would be my assumption as long as prices are more manageable its a win for us the consumers.
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480 is AMD's flagship. All their driver work goes to it first and to everything else later. 1060's there only to compete with 480. It's not meant to be their bread and butter, and it definitely won't get the same amount of attention. It's still powerfull card, but I'm certain Nvidia saved some candy for later use. After all, they can afford to do that with market share that they have. Give them a year, and they'll bring out 200 bucks card, that will dust with 480.

In the mean time 480 appears to be the go to card. And judging by R9's track record, it's bound to have a nice longevity too. When R9 came out I honestly dismissed it at a first look, but lo and behold, it's doing pretty well in all the benchmarks now. It's price is down on titans, and it's performance actually caught and even surpassed some in vulcan and dx12. That proves that it was built with longevity in mind, and it's best points are showing only now, and if the trend continues for 480 it could be a superb card.
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>>56249225
7 of those are games I want but could easily go either way if they get gamesworks or not.

Or on my processor.
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>>56247126
MSI has better design but rx 480 should be a better chip in the long run. so you're fucked basically.
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>>56247126
As a guy that just bought a msi 470, definitely the 1060. 480 might be the long term winner, if you plan to keep it for five years.

In the US at least, you'd be a retard to buy the 3gb (cut down) 1060 or the 480. 4gb 470 and 6gb 1060 dominate their price brackets.
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>>56250143
How's your experience with it? I was going to get one for £200.
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>>56250143
Cut down 1060 as in it should have been called the 1050. They disabled one of the ten streaming multiprocessors. Not just less memory.
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>>56250162
Silent and cool temps with a 1390/1750 overclock at 1150mV with the default fan curve. I'd say perfectly stable, but FO4 has been crashing randomly. Everything else including multiple looped benches of heaven maxed out at 1080 has been fine, and I pirated fo4 to try, so not sure if it's just the game.

Loving GTA V with massively extended draw and HD resolution shadows (to fix the terrible cascading) and mostly very high settings in the non advanced menu. Never dips below 50 fps, but OC 6600k may help. Memory usage exceeds 3gb but not 4gb using these advance GTA graphic settings.

Cool looking backlit LED logo and accents if your into that thing. Not sure if you can turn them off. I was going to, since I have no window, but fuck it; I'm lazy, so haven't tried.

Caveats. Clocking the memory over 1750 results in less aggressive timings, resulting in equal or inferior performance until you hit ~2100 Mem clock. I could not. This may change in the future with driver or bios updates.

Also, wattman is the only way I've found to OC so far. Didnt try trixxy as I didn't like it in the past. Wattman its a laggy, crash prone piece of shit right now, at least for me. This doesn't seem anywhere near ubiquitous though. So YMMV.
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DX12 and vulkan, 480, the rest, 1060
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>>56250407
>but FO4 has been crashing randomly.
That seems normal.

Also, why not use MSI afterburner?
It's by far the best OC program.
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>>56250407
To add, I could bump a lot of non advanced graphics settings up in GTA V, but I hate pop in and shitty shadow cascading way more than barely noticeable lower visual fidelity. I have extended draw one notch away from max.

Pop variety and density are set one notch from mac as well, one that could probably be lowered without much visual impact.

Also, set grass to normal or high at the most. It chews up resources at higher settings for a better but not worth it improvement.
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>>56250506
First thing I tried. Compatible beta is not out yet. Guru3d or whatever got early access.
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>>56250518
I share your sentiment, draw distance is more vital to me as well.
>>56250526
Hmm, see if I got one of these for £200 it seems like I'd have not been disappointed.

>>56250475
That Tomb Raider and Direct X 11 differentials are what keep tugging me back to a 1060. fact is AMD's direct x 12 superiority could be fucked by Nvidia sponsored games of which there are a lot.

I have pay day as my decision day and I'll just live with it.
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>>56250475
I see this mostly unlabeled chart posted so often it's making me suspicious.
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>>56250567
It's legit.
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So for a guy that's gone from GTX 560 to GTX 760, would I be making a mistake by upgrading to a 6gb 1060?

This range has always suited me but I'm not sure if I should bother looking at anything else, I just like playing games at 1080p with a comfortable performance/price trade off.
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>>56250616
You seem to be on pretty close upgrade cycles.

I'm a cheap sod so I'd say yes, but for you you may be able to pull it off.
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>>56248570
the 480 isn't lasting anyone "some years" pajeet
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>>56250606
Okay, got a chart from somewhere actually recognizable? Nothing I've seen puts them anywhere near that far apart.

Go ahead and upload your entire shill folder with actual links actually. That's be much more helpful.
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>>56250567
If you watch a few of the digital foundry videos you will see it lines up. AMD has shit tier DX11 and OpenGL driver support due to driver overhead, but really good DX12 and Vulkan support. The Doom 2016 Vulkan vs OpenGL test really highlighted the driver problem they have.
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>>56250661
This place has always been shill heaven, even Nvidia or AMD subreddit won't put up with this shit. So excuse me for being skeptical.

All the reliable sites I've been to place them well within 10%.
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>>56250606
Yeah, fuck it, gtx 1060 it is, I can't be arsed making a decision on future speculation.

If AMD released a list of games about to use Vulkan I'd jump on it.
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>>56250661
>>56250655
No need to be that flippant, anywhere shows the same.

10% losses in DX 11 games and 5-10 % gains in DX 12.
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>>56250727
I didn't say keep shilling, I said post links.
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>>56250655
>somewhere

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-benchmark-review-25-games-tested/
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>>56250706
You got got, dude. It's still a good card, but you got shilled hard. OCed 470 even approaches an OCed 1060. But two unsourced jpegs is all it takes I guess. I understand the fanboyism now.
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>>56250755
>First pic is going comparison
>Only compares it to previous gen Nvidia

Just as I thought. Fucking dropped. Look up some actual benchmarks yourself OP. Not some page 36 of Google shit no one has ever heard of.
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>>56250655
The GTX 1060 is a faster card but the RX480 is better in most DX12 games, nothing news.
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>>56250642
I've been using 6870s for a couple years now anon, the 480 will definitely last
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>>56250753
You are one arsey sod.

http://www.eteknix.com/sapphire-nitro-rx-480-oc-8gb-graphics-card-review/5/

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/msi-radeon-rx-480-gaming-x-review,1.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-red-devil-review,1.html
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Nvidia has 80% marketshare because their users have a decent income and can buy a new gpu every 1-2 years. AMD basement dwellers are so poor theyre stuck on HD6000s and 7000s and want a midrange card to be "future proof"
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>>56250796
Yeah, but his chart said 18% faster in GTA V. The 6gb 1060 (let alone the lasred down 3gb 1060 aka 1050) isn't 18% faster than my 470 at stock ckocks in GTA V.

Those images are complete and utter cherry picked bullshit. Pic related, from what is considered one of the most unbiased and accurate sites. Quit fucking shilling, samefag.
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>>56250795
>http://www.techspot.com/review/1209-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060/
>http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-pascal,4679.html
>http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/73040-nvidia-gtx-1060-6gb-review.html
>https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1060/
>ITS SHILLS!

You need professional help
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>>56250843
Your links literally disprove your bullshit exaggerations. Are you retarded?
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>>56250777
It can but I was put off by this

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_rx_470_gaming_x_8gb_review,7.html

No, that wasn't all it taken it taken reviews of every AMD variant get the piss beat out of it in Direct X 11 while having poor pricing in the UK.
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>>56250882
Why not post the graphs from those sites that show the 6gb 1060 and 480 are within 5% then? Why post some cherry picked bullshit? Fuck off with your motte and bailey faggotry, shill.
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>>56250872
>all the reviewers use the same cpu, the same ram speed, the same game setting, the same computer
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>>56250883
Are you, because they don't?

Look at the gaps in the reference cards.
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>>56250906
Jesus Christ...read this.
>>56250907
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>>56250872
is there any good 1060 3gb reviews?
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>>56250907
>Damage control: the post

Even cpu difference couldn't make your shill 20% better graph even close to true, unless they were using a Celeron. Site is named unboxing something or other for fucks sake. Has anyone even mentioned that place ever before?
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Is this a good version of the 1060?
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>>56250922
Yeah, nah. You're a cunt. That blue and white unbox chart is straight up unadulterated shit. Cpu can't come close to explaining that bullshit.

And then you'll run back to the bailey of reliable sites that show the 6gb just slightly ahead, like that wasn't my argument the entire fucking time.
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>>56250936

>>56250882
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>>56250969
>Cpu can't come close to explaining that bullshit
>>56250936
>Even cpu difference couldn't make your shill 20%
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>>56250959
G1 Gaming has the highest clock speeds with nVidia cards. This version is ugly as shit, tho. I would wait for the Xtreme one.
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>>56247126
Look for something like this and forget the 1060 and 480 i got lucky.
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>>56250970
Read the links, then realize how retarded you are. They support my argument that those two unsourced images are shit. I never said the 480 always beat the 6gb 1060 in dx11 (does beat the 3gb however), but to pretend the 6 gb1060 is that much better is so retarded.
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>>56250981
>Another unsourced shit graph from a site no one has ever heard of

Thanks senpai.

Again. For both our convenience, could you just up load your picked cherry folder?
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>>56250981
4690k there I am! Which is why sadly I never expect as brilliant results as some benchmarks show and have concerns with AMD cards.

>>56250996
Sweet mother of fuck, you lucky person.

>>56250998
I'd be so much happier if a list of Vulkan games were announced.
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Where the fuck are any of these cards even in stock at reasonable non gougy prices? Newegg doesn't have shit
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>>56251010
http://pclab.pl/art57777-22.html

Do you want more :^)
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>>56251010
1060 has no reference, meanwhile, the 480 reference is being compared. If you can get the Nitro+, get that. It's better long term and generally better overall
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>>56251034
They're nowhere to be found, my man. Those fucking zipperheads are buying them all for Ethereum mining.
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If you're on Linux and want to use the open source drivers, get the RX 480
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>>56250998
>unsourced

http://www.hardwareunboxed.com/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1060-benchmark-review-25-games-tested/

Also like he said, the reviwers don't use the same setting. Some use AA or AF, some don't, some set all the shit at Ultra High, other at Maximum etc...It's why you can't have the same FPS
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How useful/accurate are the benchmarks on videocardbenchmark.net?
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>>56251047
Yeah, and every established reliable and known tester that isn't starving for Nvidia bucks is already maxing that chart out. Come on now, you must know how hard your shilling, no? Or is it reflexive?
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>>56250969
>>56250936
>amdfags
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>>56251086
Again, a real benchmarker, please. One that people actually reference in the real world. No more page 36 shit.
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>>56251104
So that same source you've been spamming literally can't even correctly make a graph key. Great crutch, I mean, source, mate.
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>>56251087
they give nvidia a +20% bonus on all frames because they get sponsored by them
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>>56251127
>I will have the same fps if I use different cpu on the benchmark

http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/doom-test-gpu
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>>56251087
>Those 1060/780/970 beating Fury/390x/480 by that margin
wow i wonder who is behind this
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>>56250924
I'm the guy people think is an amd shill in this thread, get it from the amd fags as well in other threads. Neither side seems to care much for hard facts. Don't buy the 3gb 1060, don't buy the 4gb 480. Get the 4gb 470 or 6gb 1060 depending on your budget.
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>>56247126
Get the 480
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>>56251213
>>56251213
I'm a poorfag and I'm using a 6600k. What the fuck is this outdated shit? It doesn't even list the fucking card for fucks sake.
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>>56250475
>>56250606
>>56251104
autistic shills
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>>56247126
1060 SLi ;^)
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>>56251213
To add, yet another site I've literally never heard of after spending most of my free time looking at benchmarks over the past 6 months waiting for a decently price GPU.
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Should I get one of those mini 1060s? Are they just as good as the bigger ones?
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>>56251267
Can you give my a non shill pic of +10 games bench? Pro tip: You can't
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>>56251286
Absolutely not, unless space is at a premium.
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Where the hell can I get a 4gb 480 nitro? They're out of stock everywhere.
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Is the word shill used by the paranoid if something doesn't fit their internal narrative but something that agrees with what they already think is non shilling?
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>>56251329
up your faggot ass
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>>56251335
It's come to replace fanboy, only 20% are actually paid shills. The rest are retroactively defending their purchase or mentally ill.
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>>56251267
>TechPowerUp
>shills
>Hexus
>shills
>Guru3D
>shills
>HardOCP
>shills
>Anandtech
>shills
>HotHardware
>shills
>Tom's Hardware
>shills
>Computer Base
>shills
>PC World
>shills
>HardwareHeaven
>shills

The rx 480 is a disappointment
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>>56251358
No need to be rude
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>>56251295
you have autism

>>56251402
>trust me dude the 480 is a disappointment, don't mind the fact that is price to performance is untouched and nvidia still doesnt support DX12, just trust me goyi-i mean dude
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>>56251443
Fuck off n/v/idiot
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I will literally suck a dick to get a store to sell a RX480 Nitro+ OC near me
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>>56251402
Quite a shame honestly, at a lower price point it would've been nice but fucking hell I didn't see the 1060 coming out so soon.
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>>56251464
use the internet grandpa
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>>56247126
grab the 1060 because it'll be better for your current non-dx12 library. I think the 480 edges out the 1060 in vulkan and dx12, but dx11 is no contest in favor of the 1060
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>>56251452
I still wait your source anon, like he said:

DX12 and vulkan: 480
The rest: 1060
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>>56251478
>trust me goyim the 1060 isn't going to be forgotten when then volta comes out
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>>56251494
i still want you to fuck off back to your containment board
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>>56251452
>new 14nm gpu
>hotter than 1060
>draw more power than 1060
>shitty overcloking
>the 390 is faster all the way

Okay Roy.
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>>56251517
>new 14nm gpu
>hotter than 1060
meme
>draw more power than 1060
having autism over like 20 watts
>shitty overcloking
*citation needed
>the 390 is faster all the way
no
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>>56251402
Guru3d literally praises the 480 and proves the shill images in here were wrong. I don't think you even read these.

It's all just motte and bailey.

>1060 is 20% better than 480
>Uh, no its not
>Oh yeah! Well here's a bunch of charts showing its 4% better

Already seen you in the motte dude. Your word means less than shit.
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Is it just one guy in this thread who is assblasted about how people keep saying Nvidia is the way to go for better performance in DX11 games? AMD is still good (if not better) in DX12 and vulkan though.
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>>56248570
I am now dead.
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>>56251615
amd is the same shit with dx11 and better with dx12
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>>56251540
>power consumption and temperature are meme
So why they change the process if they don't care? What are laptops? When it's NVIDIA thats bad but when it's AMD, they ''dindu nuffin''?

>the 480 is a good overclocker card
Read all the reviewer, even the AIB suck with more voltage regulator modules on OC. Here 48 reviews on the database
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/Graphics-Cards/AMD/RX-480/

>the 390 is faster all the way
And yes, the 290/390 is faster.
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>>56251545
>Taking guru3d serious after it was shown that he copy and pastes results with older drivers onto new reviews

TOPKEK
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>>56249332
probably variants around the $300-$400 price points
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>>56251661

Okay, then why did he (or more likely you) mention it? Want me to pick you apart some more?
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>>56249332
All signs point to 490 being a dual gpu card unfortunately. Amd has confirmed 490 is not vega and they havent mentioned anything about a more powerful polaris, not to mention the slides comparing dual polaris to the 1080.
I would put my money on it attempting to fit somewhere between 1070 and 1080 prices.
Historically the dual gpu cards from amd have always been ~50-100 dollars more than buying two cards outright.
This is speculation, of course, but i advise not getting your hopes up for the 490.
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>>56251691
As an analogy. You guys are worse than the global warming zealots.

>Global warming causes cancer,a Kes vaccines ineffective, lowers crop yields, and increases consumerist profligation (as if they'd know that last word)
>No, it doesn't
>OMG you don't believe in global warming?
>I never sai-
>This guy doesn't believe in global warming! Everything he says is wrong! He hates science!
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>>56251741
Makes vaccines*

I hate that I can't always be at my desktop.
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480 would be the best by a fair margin if they were available at the promised price

given that the only 480 you can find is one with the shitty reference cooler marked up to almost the price of a 1060 I dont know why you would pick a 480 over a 1060 or 470 at this moment
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>>56249537
I have to point out that the hawaii chips have been recycled 3 generations and this put amd into an unusal position. With no new products lined up outside the fury series and the 380x, they were forced to focus on driver optimizations to keep their only available products relevant.
It's awesome to see what proper attention can do for these cards, but i wouldnt bank on this being true for all cards to come. We know vega is coming soon, and its possible the polaris cards will ve left by the wayside.
We wont know until that time comes.
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>>56248570
What the fuck is Keit AI
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>>56251791
[spoiler] Threadly reminder to stop posting that because it's now actually a thing [/spoiler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcVGDV67L-g
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I came to this thread with the same question pestering OP. There doesn't seem to be an answer here? Seems like "wait and see"
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>>56247126
i would go rx 480 for the vulkan meme
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Is it a smart idea to go from a 760 to a 470 as a temporary upgrade until those supposed HBM2 cards start waving their huge penises around? I'm kinda tempted to just get a 1060 since it has the best performance for non-dx12 games and I have no intentions of downgrading from win7 to the botnet.
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>>56251652
>So why they change the process if they don't care? What are laptops? When it's NVIDIA thats bad but when it's AMD, they ''dindu nuffin''?
?

>Read all the reviewer, even the AIB suck with more voltage regulator modules on OC. Here 48 reviews on the database
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviewdb/Graphics-Cards/AMD/RX-480/
I heard the same tired bullshit story with the 290x saying it couldn't overclock and coldent maintain base clock for shit but it didn't stop me from getting 1200mhz out of it, reveiwers cant/wont overclock, they have no credibility

>And yes, the 290/390 is faster.
no it isnt
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>>56252090
going from a 760 to a 470 would be a big upgrade so go for it
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>>56252090
I'm going from 760 to 1060 in W7 as well, actually looking in this thread to see if that's a bad idea or not.
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>>56252298
>buying a card that doesn't support DX12 in 2016
W H Y
H
Y
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>>56252201
How abou a 470 as a long term 3+ year ? I don't mind turning things down texture wise it's more the power of it itself.
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>>56252319
Not using a botnet as your OS seems like a very efficient reason, especially since win7 still has more than twice as many users even after all the shilling.
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>>56252319
W H Y N O T
W
H
Y
N
O
T
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>>56252415
it is good for the long run

>>56252438
Stop being
A. Autistic
B. A nonce

if you are neither you have no reason not to get Win10
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>>56252804
Stop being
A. Pajeet
B. A shitposter

No one cares about your shitty botnet and it can't even get a third of the market share, no reason to care about DX12.
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>>56251457
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>>56252886
so you are either autistic or a pedophile, nice to know
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>>56252933
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>>56252940
Know who else are autistic pedos? 80% of the market share.
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1060 wins short term, 480 wins long term.
If you plan to keep it longer than three years then 480.
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>>56252973
70% are businesses still stuck on 7 or XP
8% are Macfags
and 2% are linux freetards and autists
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>>56247126
I just got a 1060 this week, pretty pleased overall and it's a huge jump over my 4GB 670. In GTAV I get pretty much twice the frames at higher settings, only times it every drops below 60 are in the heavy foliage areas, and even then the lowest I've seen was 45FPS with everything maxed at 1200p.

Also Gainward yet again proving they're pretty much my favourite 3rd party card maker on the market. I dunno what the fuck kind of magic they use but I've tried EVGA, Asus, MSI and Gainward over the years, and their cards always run at least 10c lower than anyone else. Fucking thing struggles to break 60c while maxing out GTAV for fuck sake.

My huge Asus DirectCU II 670 used to border 80c on medium, and that was with fucking heatpipes crawling out of the thing like a fucking H.R Giger art piece.
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>>56249225
Is Gears 4 coming to PC?
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>>56253001
You have one very good point here, to people like you or myself coming from older or far weaker cards (750ti). I'm not sure a flying fuck could be given with how much of an improvement they are.
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>>56249225
>Star Citizen
We're counting tech demos now are we?
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>>56253013
Yessir!
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Just bought Rx 480 nitro + for 220€
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>>56253290
Fuck, is it gonna be exclusive to that windows 10 store shit? I actually had to refund the remastered one they released because the game was literally dead online due to being contained to that shitpile.
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>>56253335
4gb? Nice, I'd get a nitro but I hear they get a bit loud.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-devil-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-188-pc.html

Shame powercolor's rma is a nightmare.
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>>56253490
Yes 4gb, I don't need more, 2 1080p screens and 1 1650x1050
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>>56253369
Likely, unless they put it on steam later like quantum break. It will feature cross play work x1 users though so you should be fine
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>>56253793
>It will feature cross play work x1 users though so you should be fine
Oh that's good, that's what I thought Gears 1 ultimate was gonna be so I didn't care if the PC community was dead as you'd still have Xbros to play against. Not keen on their store but more interested again thanks anon.
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>>56253859
Np anon, I just used Google for ya anyway. You used a mouse on Gears? If so how'd it compare to a controller?
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>>56247126
> OC costs exactly the same as the MSI Geforce GTX 1060 Gaming X

6gb version or 3gb version? Get RX 480 if it's the 3gb version.

The 3gb version is shit. In fact, it's a entirely different card than the 6gb version and Nvidia only called it a 1060 for marketing purposes to trick suckers who believe it's the same shit with less ram.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/234201-nvidia-quietly-launches-new-gtx-1060-3gb-with-fewer-cores-200-price-point
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>>56253925
>find 1060 actually in stock
>it's a decent price
>yes, buy now!
>3G

fuck you Nvidia you almost got me there

Makes me wonder the % of people who bought it on accident and just decided to stick with it
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>>56253907
It felt weird at first as I was used to controllers with Gears, but when you get the hang of it it's hard to go back. The sheer speed you can flick your reticule around like if someone ambushes you from the back or side is immense.

The Longshot and Torque Bow were ridiculous on the PC version though, borderline too strong due to how much easier/faster it is to aim and how slow paced the combat generally is (animations wise), picking off heads with the LS was ez as hell.
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>>56253977
>>find 480 in stock
>>it's a decent price
>>yes, buy now!
>>3G

>fuck you AMD you almost got me there

>Makes me wonder the % of people who bought it on accident and just decided to stick with it

Retarded shill I'm running on Intel HD 530 fuck both GPU companies
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You can't trust 480 benchmarks.

Most of these sites benched the card throttled all to fuck. Then when new cards come out they don't rebench anything.

You gotta really look into it if you want to get any real answers.
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>>56247126
480.
Got two in xfire, absolutely amazing in terms of compute. Actually passes the 1080 in Hashcat scores.
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>>56253883
I'm waiting for someone to stretch that image a massive amount to add even more 8 pins to it. Just make the card look 12 feet long and require you to be hooked directly up to a nuclear plant.
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Buy rx480
Coincidentally i own 300 shares in amd
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RX 480, no meme at that range its better due to its ability to compete with the 1080 in dx12.
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I was planing to buy the rx 480 because I have a monitor which supports freesync. Is it still a viable option to buy the gtx 1060?
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>>56254464
NO
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>>56254524
Too bad, I just bought it
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>>56247126
If same price get 6GB 1060
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>>56253925
>>56253977
There's a 6gb 1060 (not mini) on PNY's site for 250 USD and a couple on amazon.
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they are finally all in stock here (220€ for 3GB 1060, 222€ for 4GB 470, 250€ for 4GB 480)
and i want to get the 480 before they are sold out again, but if i wait 13 hours, i can save 8€ shipping cost.
if they are sold out until then i probably give up and get the 1060
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I'm loving my XFX 480

it's neat that it comes with a backplate, too
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>>56255536
Post the store plz. Everything outpriced or out wherever I look.
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>>56250990
>caring how a card looks
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>>56251402
>The rx 480 is a disappointment
Why? Chart shows same performance (Reference to "FE" Reference) for cheaper at supposed MSRP.
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Time to upgrade my gtx580. Choices are :

>used fury x
>used 980 ti
>used 390x
>new nitro rx480

What performance increase should i expect?
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>>56255807
mindfactory.de
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>>56256015
You'd be a fool to buy anything other than that 980Ti.
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>>56247126
Jesus, this thread is a good example of how upset AMD Fanboys get when you post multi results with nvidia winning

Even if you have multiple sources you're still a cherry picking shill.

AMD has the worst user base I swear
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I got a EVGA GTX 1060 6GB non SC for my new build and I tested it out today. I'm honestly amazed by its performance. All my games run at constant 120-150 fps at high settings and the graphic card never goes beyond 67 C degrees. It's really silent as well.
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>>56256285
see
>>56256232
This is a fairly honest set of benchmarks. It shows how the difference between a good AIB partner card like the MSI Gaming X for both GTX 1060 and RX 480 is marginal. Rise of the Tomb Raider (DX12) show how a Nvidia favoring game is marginal and a AMD favoring game (DX11) is marginal. But what will be interesting to see if when the DX12 patch comes out for DEMD.

Anyhow either GPU is fine depnding on what the price is in your locality. In other words. Don't believe the hype.
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>>56256349
So how is like 6 graphs "fair"

But this guy >>56250882 linking 4 FULL REVIEWS is shilling?
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>>56256374
6 graphs of the SAME AIB partner GPU. Comparing apples to apples. That is much more fair than comparing a shitty reference cooler to a AIB partner. The difference between the GTX 1060 and the RX 480 on the SAME AIB partner is marginal.
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What is the best version of the 480?
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>>56256425
The Nitro+ OC in terms of speed and the MSI Gaming X in terms of noise/heat.
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>>56256450
Why are they so expensive, are they going to get cheaper? And why are all of them out of stock?
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>>56256509
Good value for the price. Everyone wants a piece.
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480, this isn't even a question
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>>56247126
These are the questions you have to ask yourself:
Are you a fanboy of AMD or Nvidia? Then the answer is easy.

Do you care for DX11 titles? If yes, get Nvidia.

Do you care about power consumption? Nvidia.

Do you care about software running on OpenGL? Nvidia.

And no, most software devs won't jump on an unproved api because you gaymer kids think it's cool.

The only reason to get an AMD card the way I see it is if you're a kid and you can't upgrade your card in 2 years when Vulkan (COULD BE) is a legitimate factor in your purchasing decisions.

Fact of the matter is 1060 is within 480 performance even in DX12 and Vulkan so the future proofness of the 480 is quite honestly a meme.
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>tfw expensive import charges if I try to order cheaply from USA from eBay or Amazon
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Slight revision to reflect that Guru3D tested Rise of the Tomb Raider (DX12) on the MSI Gaming X RX 480 using the 16.8.1 drivers anyhow. So no need for a separate website graph. Plus it's the same system, so should give a more accurate result. I pasted the MSI Gaming X GTX 1060 over the reference GTX 1060 result to compare against the MSI Gaming X RX 480 in an apples for apples result. I also made the last graph for DEMD a bit bigger and clearer.
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>>56256679
what about the 470?
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>>56256795
I will have to cope and paste it into ALL the fucking charts because they only compare reference cards for every review.
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>>56256589
Yeah, yeah, let's just dismiss dx12 like it don't exist. Vulcan MAY become a player, but dx12 will be one for certain as dx11 is thing of the past. 1060 was intentionally built with lacking dx12 support, so that it'll miraculously loose power when devs start to optimize their shit for dx12 properly.
And honestly talking about power with both cards well below the norm...
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>>56250959
It seems as if there is barely any difference with these 10 series cards as far as clocks go, I bought an MSI 1060 6GT since the Gaming X was not available, was a lot cheaper but in the end I got the performance I was hoping for (2000MHz+), without the OC it can't go beyond 1900 odd something though.
I feel like in the end, if you want the 10 series cards, most of it will boil down to
>looks, personal preference
>power phases if you care that much
>temps
>noise
This card in particular doesn't make a lot of noise - or at least I am unable to hear it when playing games or just browsing.
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>>56252955
nice meme!

I get 150+fps on my GTX 1070 using Nightmare settings and Vulkan :^)
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>>56257012
but based in what have you seen, should be the 470 OC near in terms of perfomance of a reference 480? I just wanna play Dark Souls 3 in 1080p60 without reducing shits.
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>>56257797
I don't give a flying shit. Go research it yourself you lazy fuck.
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>>56249225
>getting the performance equivalent of a GTX970 for DX12
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reminder that if you're a britbro you'd be doing the world a disservice if you buy amd at these prices. do not support the amd jews. go nvidia or go home.
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>>56247745
>falling for the ram meme
oh you amemediots are surely retarded

>>56247126
NVIDIA all the way op, just look at how all the "great" radeon videocards have been outperformed in the past few years
(pic related)
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>>56258401
You can buy the MSI RX 480 Gaming X for £257.99 from Ebuyer bro.
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>>56258865
>ram meme
Actually makes a slight difference between the 4GB and 8GB versions of the 480. It isn't much but is still a few frames.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjTUtUF6gxg
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so what the fuck happened to the $199 for the 480???
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>>56258886
still way more expensive than aftermarket 1060's. why spend ~£30 ($40) more on a card which has a lower warranty length and performs worse in 90% of benchmarks? it's just not logical man. they need to fix up their pricing.
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>>56258995
this has nothing to do with the amount of ram. it's because the ram is clocked lower in the 4gb versions.
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>>56259017
Still important to know that the 4GB version at stock is slower.
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>>56253001
No offense dude, but there's no way. The benches show it at under 60 fps at ultra at 1080p, let alone maxed at 1200p.
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I'm in a similar boat.
The 1060 will do better in goyworks but DX12 and Vulkan will probably make 480 the better card long term, especially since historically AMD cards get better with age while nvidia cards get worse.
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>>56259051
Sorry, ignore me. Thought you said 120fps for some reason. Still seems slightly high for maxed out though.
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do you wnat to get these temps? i've seen it reach 75. and the noise, god the noise
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>>56259001
It was never true.
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>>56259054
Basically, amd if you plan to keep it more than two years I'd say. Nvidia if less.
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>>56259033
it's marginal like 7.2gbps on the 4gb version and 8gbps on the 8gb version. you can do a small oc to the ram to get up to 480 8gb speeds. i'd say get the 8gb 480 over the 4gb one just because (as far as i've heard) amd cards have shit memory compression in polaris compared to pascal. that's probably why the 1060 manages fine with 6gb in situations where the 480 uses 8gb.
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>>56259084
If you bought reference, that's youre own damn fault. And 75 is warm, but perfectly acceptable.
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>>56259002
MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X is £289.99 so no it's £30 less for the same AIB partner card.
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>>56259084
>480
>nearly 70c at idle

the fuck? my heavily overclocked 980 is idling at 54c right now.
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>>56259001
You probably have to blame the cryptocurrency miners buying them all up.
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>>56259001
There were only like 500 4gb 480 references apparently, and they got snagged up quick. Lucky bastards that got them flashed them to 8gb too.

Almost as bad as the founders edition and pascal MSRP bullshit. Almost.
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>>56259141
i'm not talking about overpriced aib models. the picture (>>56258401) shows the cheapest rx 480 in stock compared to the cheapest 1060 in stock. the 1060, on average, is cheaper than the 480 since there are like 10 different models in stock that are cheaper than the cheapest aftermarket 480. also nobody with a brain buys msi for nvidia when evga and zotac exist which are both better and cheaper. msi charges you extra for all the software bloat they include with the card. also zotac and evga both offer 5 year warranties compared to msi's 3 year.

please, stop defending amd's shit pricing.
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OK here is a reedit of my MSI Gaming X comparison excluding the GTX 1080/1070 (I'm not interested in those anyhow). The scaling on the bars I adjusted on some scores so use the numbers as they are the same as in the reviews. This was a good AIB partner card to compare since Guru3D reviewed the RX 480, RX 470 and GTX 1060 by MSI on the same test setup. The Deus Ex: MD is the only one not tested with the MSI Gaming X as far as I know. But it will give you an idea.
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>>56259216
Shit I just noticed the 3GB GTX 1060. I dun goofed. Will fix....brb

Fucking shit 3Gb wankers.
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>>56259216
Kind of confusing, since some charts have both 3gb and 6gb 1060, and other have one or the other, sometimes unlabeled.

Though that's more on Nvidia for not calling a lasered down 1060 a 1050, I suppose.
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>>56249107
New would be defo worth. Used? Ehhhhh. Tough call. Don't think I would.
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>>56259153
it's not idle, i'm playing dota
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>>56259216
Fixed (sorta)

>>56259265
FUCK NVIDIA! FUCK THEM IN THE ASS WITH A HOT POKER! THEY ARE GREEDY, LYING FUCKERS!

The 3GB is an abomination and a 'Waaaah! We have not 460 competitor. So let's just disable some shit on the 1060 and only have 3Gb memory chip on it. But we'll still call it a GTX 1060 and trick some more saps'

Jewish tricks and cunt tactics. This is why I refuse to buy team green.
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Neither. Get a new hobby that takes you outside more.
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>>56250642
I have some AMD cards and they definitely last longer than Nvidia's performance wise. My Nvidia cards die in about two years (EVGA usually) but whatever bad luck.

>>56250706

I'd get the 1060 6GB if you upgrade every year or two. The OpenGL/DX11 thing will still be relevant now and likely most of next year. Buy a new card next year or the following perhaps. Like others have said if you plan to use it or keep it beyond that year or two get a RX 480 otherwise get it while it's good with Nvidia.
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>>56259561
Nvidia lacks a 460 and a 470 competitor. RX470 is the best bang for the buck bar none. The RX480 comes close but isn't as good for the money (same with 1060).
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>>56258342
shill

>>56259168
no one mines gpus in 2016 get cancer and die
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>>56259139
it's not the reference, it's nitro 4gb
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>>56259739
>get cancer and die
Rude.
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