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>>56221477
Bump

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>>56221441
Try for a nicer 17'' or even a 20'' if you can, it deserves one.

That said, the low-end 640x480 ones aren't even all that bad, oldschool Macs were great at making tiny resolutions look bigger than they actually were for some reason.

>>56221470
Keep us blogged, are you trying 3.1.1? I think our systems are pretty much identical under the hood except for the 650's extra NuBus slot, if you have good luck I probably will too.

>>56221518
>Keep us blogged, are you trying 3.1.1?
Sure, firing up my PowerMac to write the image.

I'm trying 3.0.1
https://winworldpc.com/product/a-ux/3x

You are the Q700 right?

>>56221518
Working old Mac CRT's are quite a thing, sadly hard to find too.

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>>56221510
What model is on the left?
Grew up with an IIVX playing Myst. Good times. Parent's sold the computer though.

>>56221470
Godspeed anon. Be careful when you install A/UX as it can clobber existing installations with no fucks given.

Anyway, I've ordered a SCSI2SD and when that eventually comes in I'll fit it up with A/UX

>>56221542
>What model is on the left?
Q650

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Reminder that Farallon transceivers are the true master race and everybody else is a mad jelly shutin who's probably a communist.

>>56221531
Yeah, that's me.

Is it 3.0.1 that's A/UX's last version? Maybe I'm confusing myself.

>>56221536
I had the opportunity to pick up a couple NASA-tagged Apple portrait displays a while back, still kicking myself for not doing so. I was too preoccupied trying to figure out how I was going to get the bunch of 90-ish pound 3270s next to them up a steeper than shit flight of stairs.

>>56221570
>a fucking beetle
dank powerbook though

>>56221576
>Is it 3.0.1 that's A/UX's last version?
No, you are right, 3.1.1 is, but I'm gonna try the 3.0.1 first, was just easier to find.

>>56221542
>Godspeed anon. Be careful when you install A/UX as it can clobber existing installations with no fucks given.
I think I will get a second drive for it and just try it right now.

>>56221588
Don't think it should matter either way, would actually probably be better since I think it's significantly lighter than 3.1

Sure you've seen this site already but I want to link it anyway, kind of interesting to surf through if you're on the fence about installing it on some of your hardware: http://www.aux-penelope.com/

Especially interested to see how the System 7 compatibility layer works out.

>>56221607
Thanks!

>>56221588
This will be of great help:
http://www.aux-penelope.com/aux_3.0.htm

You should be able to upgrade to 3.1.1 no problem (relatively)

And for drive partition configuration:
http://www.floodgap.com/retrotech/os/aux/

>>56221632
Thanks!

>>56221607
>>56221632
Aw shit, it won't boot of the CD, only boots with the boot floppy. Need to figure out how to make one.

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Got no answer in the previous thread, so i'm asking again.
>I need some help with this. It's a HxC Rev. F
>According to documentation, it should be able to emulate 2 floppy drives. But I can't figure a working configuration. Any ideas?
>I use it in my Amstrad PPC512 (XT).

>>56221948
Bifibro?

Never used one, not very keen on floppy emulators, so it should display to the computer that it's actually two different drives connected on the same connector?

>>56221894
They're available as hqx.sit files so you'll need to get them on your mac and binhex them into something usable.

Once you produce an disk image you should be able to disk copy that right into place.

>>56221948
Do you have any part of the HxC working?

>>56221948
Have you tried both connectors? The way those floppy controllers know how many drives and what drive it is talking to is thanks to a twisted pair in the cable between the two connectors.

Also does it report two drives at startup?

>>56221982
Hey bro.
As far as I have seen, yes. The PPC had already 2 floppy drives installed. therefore PC side settings should work. I can also choose different Images for a: and b: on the HxC. But only the Image for a: is shown (in a: and also in b:)

>>56222020
>you should be able to disk copy that right into place.

The problem is the floppy drive on my Q650 is acting funny, it does not want to eject and also sometimes refuses to read or write floppies, I think I have to seriously clean it.

Maybe I'll hold off with A/UX for now, I have a good deal on a 18GB SCSI drive with a 80 to 50 pin adapter.
Don't want to destroy the 8.1 installation on the original one.

>>56222039
Thanks for the hint, I will look it up.
>>56222020
It works but shows the same Image in a: and b:

>>56222067
MIght want to look into setting up Basilisk II for this kind of grunt work. Takes alot of the shit out of trying to manipulate the BIN HEX files and writing them to floppy from a PC.

Beyond that if you're looking to fuck around you can look into ShoeBill and Machintosh Garden.

>>56222129
Sounds like a wiring or firmware fuck up.

Wrong board. This is technology board
>>>/vr/

>>56222246
Bugger off, m8.

>>56222281
Luddites have their own containment board
>>>/vr/

if you dont have a model m ur a IDIOT

>>56222144
>Might want to look into setting up Basilisk II for this kind of grunt work.

Yeah, I have a classic environment set up in Basilisk II too, it's great help, also a lot of help is OS 9 on my PowerMac, great to share files over AppleTalk.
My plan is to get A/UX and 8.1 dual boot up and running in the end, maybe another *NIX as extra.

I'll wait until I got all the needed parts.

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>>56222144
>>56222039
>>56222020
>>56221982
It works... Pulled out the drive to check the cable, realized that I made some advanced dip switch fuck up. Stupid me.
Thanks for the help, friendly anons.

>>56222292
Fuck off. Thanks for the bump though.

>>56222309
That's great! Glad it works.

>>56221477

For the record: You are my hero

>>56222324
There are quite a few anons who make this thread with the same text.
Those threads are always fun!

>>56222309
yay!

i am upgrading my 286 hdd to 160 gb

>>56222350
SSD?

>>56222354
thats mary4

i am working on tomato 4 photos comming soon

>>56222350
Nice. I will try to replace some HDD's with CF. But for first I need to fix the Computers...
Do you have a HDD Expansion for your PPC?

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>>56222364
Alright, you pervert!

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If you dont have a model m ur a idiot

>>56222378
Thanks for contributing dear, we are retro enthusiasts here, we all have a Model M or two in storage.

>>56222378
you said that already, faggot. >>56222302

nobody wants your cost-reduction membrane version of a model F and beamspring.

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>>56222372
no sorry but thats ok i am fine with FDD
>>56222373
wwww

http://imgur.com/a/8qzWF

tomato4 interior

bad photo of CPU brb wwww

>>56222417
Fuck off trip fag

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>>56222424
No you fuck off! fucking nameless shit eating fucking dick jerking faggot wanker piece of shit!

>>56222450
Kek

>>56222450
That's a FPU!

>>56222474
www i know the CPU image is 4.1 mb big

>>56222474
you can see the cpu at bottem left corner it gets hot.... too hot.... to where it acts funny... hence the fan

>>56222493
Yes, I saw it, AMD logo.

>>56222541
>late 1990 date codes
extreme_disgust.webp

>>56222639
What the fuck are you babbling about?

>>56221717
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoGl8-Wc-L0

>>56222760
>What the fuck are you babbling about?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAS0rNHOe2s&t=6m48s

>>56222822
wat

>>56222404
That's the kind of power switch God uses for the Universe.

>>56223007
LEWD!!
i want that poster a copy of course w
>>56223016
wwww

>>56223007
Not very personal if you show everybody whats inside it.

>>56221570
>uses cheap parts
>can't even change the AAUI cable like in >>56221257
>comes with tiny lenght cable between the box and computer
>ugly design

i fail to see how its master race

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Iook what I found in my old stuff. I miss the days.

>>56223982
Man! I had the same one ages ago!

486, right?

>>56224022
Right. It still runs with his Initial Installation. Windows 3.1 branded by Compaq, MS Works 2.0, Word 5.0 for DOS, ClarisWorks 1.0
Not touched for about 19 years and everything works like a charm.

>>56224114
That's fucking awesome!

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>>56224138
Yeah. Suddenly a wild nostalgia appears.
Oh fuck - and the radio plays cornershop - brimful of asha.

>>56224201
Get it cleaned up, it's not very nice if it's dirty like that!

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>>56224220

>>56224287
That's better!

>>56224287
It has this neat motherboard on rail design like the Mac?

>>56224314
ye4s!

>>56224287
If you clean it inside too don't forget to treat us with a picture of the guts!

>>56223982
>>56224201
>>56224287

It has ISA right? So you could have a second monitor with a different video card, not that anything on such a machine takes advantage of two monitors.
What ports does it have in the back? Can't find any pictures of the back.

How much could you expand something like that?

>>56222541
amdrone

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>>56225174
"hello, johnson... I've got the grid. meet me in my office at 8"

>>56225206
kek

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>>56224333
>>56224477
>>56224662

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>>56225373
It's only 2 screws, no clip, no cable to pull. Just 2 screws and pull the drawer.

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>>56225405
The hallway. You can see the connector for Screen and power.

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>>56225431
Front with connector.

>>56225373
>>56225405
>>56225431
>>56225446
Man I forgot how nice this thing was.

>>56225502
You can't get a home or office PC in this built quality and thoughtful design nowadays. If you want something like this, you need to go for a workstation.

>>56225373
What? A joystick port but no audio?

>>56225405
The SX is socketed?

>>56225572
Obviously it's a huge Macintosh ripoff, but still, nice from Compaq.

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>>56226073
Built in speaker...

>>56226081
Pic

>>56226099
True, but a really good ripoff.

>>56226230
Man, I remember that freaking cyclops.

>>56223982
>>56224201
>>56224287
>>56225373
>>56225405
>>56225431
>>56225446
>>56226230

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt-0lqkJUKE

>>56225405
What's that SCSI connector looking thing on the motherboard near the ISA slots?

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>>56225405
how lewd

>>56226230
too lewd! <3

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I have this, but no idea how to hack it.

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>>56228114
>hack it

>>56222760
>030E2TV
week 30 1990
just exercising my autism

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>>56223982
My nigga, had to dig through the archives to find this old shot of mine that I took in fucking 2014 since I have it in storage at the moment, mind the dumb frogposting and memetext.

Really nice boxes though, sturdy as shit.

Presario pride
>world wide

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Early 00' touchscreen ftw

>>56228644
Also I'm an idiot

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>>56228607
The pain of installing Office 97 Pro from floppy.

44 Disks.

>>56228114
Nice! Pretty sure this is the same one I use with my AS/400 machine. You can wire up a PS/2 plug for that keyboard (I just used a rj45 socket and donor ps/2 cable) and use it on a modern machine. I think it requires more power from the ps/2 port than some newer motherboards provide (works great on an old PII laptop, not so much on my 2 year old machine).

>>56228846
Though, now that I reflect on it, doubling the cable length might have pushed it over the edge...

>>56221477
>Stallman on a proprietary computer running proprietary software

>>56223982
Mother
Fucking
PIZZA TYCOON

>>56228846
>AS/400 machine.

It probably is the same model,

I just need to research how to go from SNA to ethernet.

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>>56228607
>>56230248

>>56221477
Nice maymay. That was my first home computer.

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>>56221477
>tfw you're a meme now

>>56230423
...and here I thought it was just a serial terminal running over those weird twinax cables. Shows how much I know.

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I like going for the rares myself.

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Have a rare slow-scan amber CRT pepe.

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I have a thing for smaller but nice quality computers.

>>56228607
Just interesting, is it possible to open MS Works files in modern Offices (let be at least LibreOffice)?

>>56231758
I've done it in Libre. Wasn't opening on someones MSOffice.

I have a 2009 Mbp 17" I'm not sure of the admin password, what do I do
I don't really like windows either

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Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my good ol' Microsoft Mouse 2.0A serial mouse working on my Pentium I DOS/Win3.11 machine.

Presumably the guy who used to own it had a different mouse, and I'm pretty much stumped because I have no idea how to change the drivers or where to find the right ones for the mouse I have.

I haven't used DOS in a long, long time.

>>56232275
Autoexec.bat

>>56232762
Yeah the battery lasts for a LONG time if you rebuild the pack. Mine came with a rebuilt new battery, it lasts for at least 18 hours continuous use.

It's a good little machine for writing and such, and the graphing calculator it comes with is surprisingly capable, more like a mini-CAS.

>>56231462
Show me more.

>>56233415
bump

>>56232275
Google CuteMouse, add it in autoexec.bat

CuteMouse is like the only mouse driver you ever need for DOS and related.

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>>56228644
>FTFY

>>56235882
What model toughbook is that, my neighbor has two I might pick up.

>>56235993
No clue, not my picture, ask the guy who posted it.

>>56232275
KEK

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>>56223973
Sweet Amiga dude

I'll bump with an old pic of mine of when I was working on it.

>>56237045
That's freaking neat bro, anything special rocking inside it?

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>>56237092
Overclocked Blizzard 1260 Card with I believe 64mb of ram if I remember correctly.

and Invidision AGA Scandoubler to plug it into a normal LCD.

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>>56237122
That's a sweet build!

>>56237191
Yea I don't have any space in my current arrangement so I was forced to put that in storage which is a shame.

>>56237210
Truly a shame, but understandable.

Anyone got that cap of the guy with the NOC built from slavaged pcs?

>>56237448
Oh boy, if you backtrack 5-6 retro threads then someone posted lots of the pics.

Is it okay to enjoy proprietary software for nostalgic purposes if it has no practical use?

I wonder if anybody has asked Stallman this.

>>56237474
I don't really give a fuck about the licensing of particular software.
I'm not that hard of a /g/nu fag.

>>56237474
>hampering yourself and your enjoyment because of an unrealistic ideology nobody cares about outside of /g/ and irrelevant mailing lists
It's not really feasible to go full GNU anyway on most old hardware and actually be able to do anything useful with it, most free software worth using is bloated as shit and turning your old hardware into a doorstop that does the same shit you do on your main box but slower kind of misses the point.

Don't worry about it.

I have a commodore 64m I wish to use it for something modern and cool. Current idea is irc chats. Topical Google searches lead me to long gone hardware. I know that retro company that sells sd2iecs seeks an Ethernet adapter, would that also be compatible with irc? I just can't find any use for a c64 other than using it to talk to other nerds somehow

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>>56232275
u stol my fuggin piktshur

>>56238106
You''re best bet is an RR-NET card and Contiki.

You may want to look through http://wiki.icomp.de/wiki/RR-Net but be warned it's going to be a pain and expense to get it online, would be cool though.

>>56238127
FreeDOS is fine, it was just built for use of a DOS for manufacturers to provide a boot environment for their utilities or as an "up to date" replacement DOS for older systems.

Though it's niche.

What computer exactly. There's some ports of NetBSD for 68k operating systems but you put out a pretty vague hardware.

>>56238572
Unfortunately you're not going to have much luck.

Macintosh Computers (especially on the Old World ROM set) are incredibly locked down with their roms. To the point for any other operating system to be bootstrapped in, the system had to be first booted into System 6, or System 7, and then have that bootstrap A/UX or MacBSD

Long story short. No. Not for a Macintosh SE, and certainly not total FOSS due to the system architecture.

Also lack of having memory management unit in the processor fucks you too.

Just put system 6 on there, get an external SCSI and enjoy the system as a sweet retro games machine.

i think i have 2000 floppy disks

no 8 inch ones

but fuck so many disks!

>>56238127

nO NO NO NO

FreeDOS is superior to MS-DOS

i am dead fucking serious

my XT can read FAT32 thanks to FreeDOS

>>56237474
i prefer floss stuff on my vintage PC

FreeDOS = <3


elks is a cool EXPERIMENTAL OS to play with

>>56237502
if it is abandon ware then it is ok but i prefer newly written stuff that i can see the source and shit

>>56221477

want c64, but am poor as fuck and can't afford it with the monitor and floppy drive

i need it basically fucking CIB to even consider it, i want the damn instruction manual and guide on BASIC

>>56238877
Look at computer recycling plants, estate and garage sales. Usually the best places to find it for cheap.

Craigslist sometimes but it's more then likely filled by people thinking they have a museum piece and trying to get $300-500 for it.

Your best bet is for emulation and then there's tons of scanned C64 documentation and books on the internet

>>56230661
It's ok anon, we all have a roaring emptiness inside of us. Nice hardware though.

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Hey there /retro/acts,

I'm looking for pictures of old computer UI, anything wireframe-y, dithered to hell or otherwise old looking.

I would use the google-machines but I'm an idiot when it comes to naming old computers/OSes. Any query for "retro" brings up a shitload of crap that would rice your win10 to look like win7 (look gayz, so retro). And when I find screens, they're shitty 400*200 res jpegs (yes, I am aware old machines had small resolutions, but the images themselves are distorted as hell).

>>56239095
http://www.guidebookgallery.org/screenshots
Is a good list of retro OS's and screenshots with interface elements.

>>56239118
Holy crap anon, thank you, this is the mother lode. I don't know I managed to not find it.

>>56239136
And another resource for your journey anon:
http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html

>>56239143
Well shit, this one eves has a crapload of offlinks to related sites. Thanks a bunch anon. I'm working on a personal project and want to create a retro-UI for shits and giggles. You can only imagine how much ground you've traked for me. I'm a win95 babby and didn't know the first thing about how to find this.

>>56238106
How about 1541 Ultimate? I'm getting an C64 and that's the thing I will use for software and network connectivity.

>>56238957
It's because how the ROM boots the OS, there's no real reason to make anything specialized for that if a few hundred kilobytes from OS 6/7 can do the job.

>>56239269
The network connectivity in it right now is just to be an FTP server to transfer files to. Not for IRC communication.

Works fucking great as a 1541 drive replacement.

>>56239309
It was all copyrighted closed source code so alot of people just bootstrapped to save time and to avoid Apple's ire.

>>56238877
If you live in Europe you can pull off a Commodore 64C with floppy drive + monitor for about 60€.

Why do you NEED it CIB?
Manuals are available online.

>>56239095
What are you doing with them? Just curious.

>>56239327
>The network connectivity in it right now is just to be an FTP server to transfer files to. Not for IRC communication.
The guy is working on a network driver

>>56239373
I'm working on a retro-UI for a personal project. I want it to look "authentic", I really wasn't around when these kinds of PCs were all the rage so I can't really do it without reference material. Although my first PC was a "dual-booting" ms-dos / win95 I have great respect for the very first UIs and what was achieved given the limited design space.

Who knows, if it turns out OK, I might even make an A E S T H E T I C memey website with the UI.

>>56239422
That's awesome! Good luck!

>>56238561
>going to be a pain and expense to get it online
What's the hard part?

>>56238910
nice!

i have a zenith zl-1 minisport pc but the internal psu unit is fuck

>>56238910
i can compile disk images for you~

>>56239438
The hardest part is seeking the equipment for what you're looking to do versus how much money you're willing to expend.

Aside from a lark, a C64 online is kind of useless. Unless you want a shitty twitter/irc machine for over 60 bucks.

>>56239747
So, what would be the best configuration to get disk and tape images on the C64 and also have working networking?

>>56239983
i want networking on my c64 too www but i am poor as fuck

>>56240593
I don't mind spending a few hundred on a nice system.

>>56240593
Says the guy who has a fucking SSD in hes XT.

>>56240739
i had moneys before

and the SSD came out of my Thinkpad T440p

wwww

>>56240593
>networking on my c64
You already have it if you have a floppy.
The floppies are serial.

>>56240896
Yes, it's like linking two C64's together.
One working the floppy drive and the other working the data.

>>56240896
wwww i only have the main unit and psu nothing else

>>56241228
What do you do with it?

>>56241233
not much since i have no way of putting software on it and it is rom only system with volatile ram

>>56241317
You type it out!

>>56241587
yeah i know .... but basic.... i am a C mofo

Any anon here, who tried sshdos? I can't connect. Wattcp seems to work (given IP appears in the LAN for a short time).

>>56241828
Never used SSH on DOS, SSH is way to heavy for my 8088.

>>56241882
Hmm, maybe my 8 MHz NEC V30 can't handle it...

>>56241986
Disable encryption or just use telnet.

telnet works great!

>>56242178
I don't believe you!

>>56242244
mtcp telnet on XT try it

>>56242356
Stop spreading lies, Sparky!

>>56242489
bakapee!~!!!!!!!

try it!!

>>56242810
I know, I know, I use mTcp myself too, but someone had to bump the thread!
What better way to do that then picking on Sparky!

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>>56243046
wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

i do not have that box art is what p16 will do to everyone

>>56243072
Kek

>>56243084
i have king's quest 5 disks 1 to 9.... out of 10

>>56243095
You're done goofed mate.

>>56243139
my XT came with them

>>56242489

I'm running the same thing on my AT, I know it works just fine on the XT.

>>56243180
I just played some Flight Simulator 3 on my XT with my green monochrome monitor.

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XT gaming...

>>56243371
They forgot a comma between "HIT" and "PUNCH".

Yes I made that joke again.

>>56243403
Always funny.

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>>56243439
About some green Alley Cat?

>>56243482
Nice. But the cheese looks like it has passed the best before date a long time ago.

>>56243573
Indeed... It was actually me who made the orange/ember monitor cheese joke.

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>>56243573
It's a delicacy!

>>56239118
>those icons
Awwww, I miss them. Why there's no place for them anymore?

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>>56243573
I thought so...

>>56243458
Nice globe!

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>>56221477

>>56245240
Is this some kind of a joke son?
Pan the camera a little more to the left, will you?

>>56245240
Nice Vectrex!

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>>56245240
That one is still kinda okay but also doesn't look fresh anymore.

Apple hardware does age HORRIBLY.

Not necessarily the design itself, more like the materials they used.

It looks way more off than yellowed PC boxes.

Probably also really helpful to have customers more interested in the aesthetics than the actual performance - they will buy the fresh hardware sooner if the old one begins to age in appearance.

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>>56245283

I'll have to bring my DSLR when it gets darker here.

>>56245389
Depends, I have the same keyboard in black and silver and it looks like new.

It only jellows because of bromine in the plastic.
The ADB keyboard on my 68k Mac looks as white as new for example, different plastic, while the case has yellowed parts and white parts.

>>56245427
Fukken boner material right there!

>>56243072
>Game Blaster
>no joystick port

Fucking Creative.

>>56245487
It's just a rebrand of the C/MS, Game Port's where usually their own extension cards back then.
It was not until the Sound Blaster that Game Ports appeared on sound cards.

>>56245443
Jesus, don't oversell it.

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>>56245080
Just a bit outdated...

>>56221570
that program looks like the old version of ms paint.

>>56245823
Just speaking my mind! Can't deny what I see.

>>56245985
Yeah, slightly, we haven't been part of the USSR for a while not anymore.
Like since the USSR fell...

>>56246272
You must be new here.

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>>56246307
no

>>56246605
It's more that MS Paint happens to look like a generic paint program from the late 80's then anything.

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>>56246605
mfw win9x is slowly becoming retro

>>56243371
is the best

>>56247249
NT is not retro but the dos based ones feel retro

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wwww

i think Meeeeee been retro since 2007

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>>56247609
>tfw your waifu is retro

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XP is NOT retro not anytime soon

>>56247626
dat machine doe

>>56243439
>>56243482
Love them mouses

>>56247638
ME and XP will hit official retro status in the beginning of the next decade.

working on fixing my ppc640

^^;

>>56247686
Good luck!
What's wrong with it anyways?

>>56247678
me is based on very old code
XP is more recent code

wwww

>>56247701
overheating voltage regulators it started acting VERY funny when left on a while so i am wanting to replace some

>>56247702
True that Win Me is 9x based, but still, it's maybe just slightly more retro than XP.

>>56247723
Oww

>>56247756
yeah i know ^^;

but i can fix it~

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>>56247772

>>56247790
w
i revived a non working XT

it boots up but acts VERY funny

a chip might be bad with memory stuff

>>56247806
Good luck! Don't let a XT die!

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Is vista retro yet?

>>56247575
early NT versions feel pretty antiquated though

but they are still very modern I guess, if NT4 had win2k or even 98's level of browser support I could daily drive that shit no problem (for the most part)

I need to play with my Kaypro 4 more, but making discs for it is a yooge pain. Doesn't have a memory monitor or basic in ROM that I am aware of either.

>>56248056
It's weirdly easier to get modern software running on 2000 or XP than Vista. It had such a short time span of being both current and usable.

>>56245427
Dad threw away my 1702 monitor a couple of years back....

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is this old enough?

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>>56248677
dope

>>56223982
>WITZE
post some jokes from 1993, anon!

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Z80 rules.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEgGmVQjMM0

>>56243458
Every time I see this I think it's an in-game screenshot from some late 70s setting.

Strange question, but does anyone know where I could find a screensaver that looks like a green monochrome server scrolling code?

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>>56249269
Phosphor. It's for Mac OS X and Linux

https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ZWTrl7pV0

>>56248677
damn right it is
that always sounded like it would be super fun to mess with, the PS2 has a really nice workstation-y look to it too

does it live up to the hype?

>>56251129
the devkit is even better, it looks even more like a workstation

>>56251451
oh, and it also operates like one

the PS2 devkit is actually a PC running Red Hat Linux

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>>56245443
yes

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>>56248699
that thinkpad

DAT JAPANESE KEYBOARD

>>56251846
SPARKY~!

>>56248715
Fukken neat

>>56251567
But the picture is not of the PS2 devkit

>>56252935
i know, i said the devkit was even better but i didn't post a pic

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>>56252978
ftfy

>>56249269
Google Matrix screensaver

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Anyone know where I can get rid of a TI-74 without tossing it?

I was given one with all sorts of stuff like the printer, programs to put in the memory port, and other such junk. It's neat and I would hate to throw it away but I have no room for it so I was hoping someone here would know where to offload it?

>>56253376
>I've never heard of ebay, craigslist, thrift stores, swap meets, hamfests...
Admit it, you're just trying to show off but still act cool.

>>56253410
This, could have just shown us it without saying dumb shit.

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>>56253410

You want it? Pay for shipping and it's yours. I'm moving soon and will have no room for it but I would like to see it go to someone who enjoys it.

>>56253454
Where are you located?

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>>56251451
>>56251567
shit that really is nice
>even has an expansion bus
fuck you for adding another thing to my extensive 'need' list

>>56253454
>US
Nah, tnx though.

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>>56253505

Massachusetts: Ense petit placidam sub libertate quietem

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>>56253508

contribootin

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who can guess what this is

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it's the cube!

newfag here, are there any practical uses for these old computers or is this mostly for nostalgia?

>>56253584
Stay and find out.

>>56247864
never! <3

>>56253584
They still do everything they did back then.

>>56253571
Sony really has a way with design

>>56253584
Putting old stuff to work is half the fun for me, you can totally use them for the same stuff they did when they were new, among other things. I see old gear used a lot for basic server tasks (DNS for example) or niche shit like music production.

Definitely an entertainment/hobby thing in the end though, they may still be alright for what they were made to do, but newer gear can be a hell of a lot more convenient.

>>56253584
Retrogaming, Collecting, Etc.

>>56253668
> ...newer gear can be a hell of a lot more convenient.

and power efficient by orders of magnitude

>>56253769
Depending what you're doing, generally yes, the hardware is more power efficient nowadays, but emulating a DOS game on a new system will draw more juice than actually playing it on an 286.

>>56253769
I'm kind of tired of hearing this. It's not even wrong, of course, but /g/ stresses out about it and overhypes it so much. Unless you live in a place like NYC or something, power is cheap as shit, running old boxes that don't even consume that much in the first place is practically pocket change even in 24/7 roles depending on what it is. If you can't spend an extra $5-$15 a month for something you enjoy, I think you have more problems in your life than what kind of theoretical performance-per-watt you can get out of your system.

It annoys me even more to imagine that a lot of the people who spin out these posts probably still use incandescent light bulbs, ancient appliances and drive older cars, too.

>>56253826
Emulation of hardware that old can't be that bad, can it? I don't believe it.

>>56253826
>but emulating a DOS game on a new system will draw more juice than actually playing it on an 286

how much power does a CRT monitor use compared to an LCD (on say a modern laptop)? also, a modern CPU (e.g. Skylake) will barely be above idle when emulating a DOS game. but it's a good point, if i had a 286 i'd be tempted to measure its power draw when running a Leisure Suit Larry

>>56253958
a 286 generates tiny amounts of heat

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>>56253951
>running old boxes that don't even consume that much in the first place

speak for yourself

>>56253958
286en shipped with pretty anemic power supplies and the chips themselves were atom-tier in maximum power consumption, you could run later iterations those damn things on AAs for 5+ hours if you wanted to

>>56254033
I always wondered how much those things needed, easily in the 5+ kW range I would guess?

I think even my shitty Indigo2 still shipped with a 300W power supply, I know Octanes shipped with 650s.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-cpu-history,2008-3.html

> Am386: A 40-MHz 386

~2W, basically like an original Raspberry Pi

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one nice thing about old computers is that they are more likely free from NSA backdoor cancer like Intel ME (and AMD's equivalent)

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>>56253376

>>56251058
Got anything Win7 friendly?
>>56253294
Already have. Want realism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZAoLbD7vA4

have a box of tissues ready (you know why)

>>56253951
>Emulation of hardware that old can't be that bad, can it? I don't believe it.
It's not about the emulation, it's that new CPUs and GPUs still draw quite a load even doing small things, while the old counterparts don't even take as much juice on full load.
Of course, something like an ARM chip might only draw a few watts running DOSBox.

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where my pizza box niggas at!?!

>>56253958
If you're going to enjoy a DOS game on a modern computer you want a CRT anyways.
Also, you can just hook up an LCD to any old shitpox.

Kind of useless point.

>>56253958
The floppy drive and hard drive motors would be drawing more power than the actual 286. Pop a CF card in there and it's as lightweight as an Atom netbook.

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>>56251846
>>56251876
>>56253634
william you are the biggest faggot ever fucking kill yourself. You are not an anime girl, you will never be.

>>56254235

>If you're going to enjoy a DOS game on a modern computer you want a CRT anyways.

> Kind of useless point.

logic fail

>>56254325
It's a useless point in an argument about power consumption.Specially talking about systems and not monitors.

>>56254416

if you're a retro-fag, then the right monitor is an important part of the experience

>>56254603
Yes, but that's not the point of discussion about power consumption of old systems.
No matter if using an old computer or new one.

>>56254225
Ugh, not that mouse!

Thanks for the nice thread guys

>>56253454
giving my address to someone here does not sound like a good idea tho.

>>56254248
no you you fucking steaming pile of shit dick cheese

>>56255281
no prob
>>56254723
yeah older systems are colder