/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

Ducky Shine 5 vs Ducky One

any differences?

>>56202874
>>56202870

Which fuckin thread

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does pic related make good mechs

>>56202956
Nop

>>56202956
ill get flamed for it but i have one right now and i enjoy it

>>56202956

They use Cherry MX switches and have solid build quality, so yes. I like the backlight options too, if you take the time to learn the horrible software. Since you didn't assemble it yourself from the board up with a bunch of gaudy pastel colored caps on it, everyone here will shit all over it.

>>56203069
exactly.
to be fair though, some of the models are pricey.
the software is a bit of a PITA but it has more features than ill ever need and once you use it for a month or two you figure it out well enough

>>56202956
I've always thought they're kinda plasticy-feeling to type on, but they're not bad. My friend who owns one swears by it.

Go to the nearest Best Buy; they all have k70s on display that you can test out.

Jukebox or 1976 also are they topre compatible?

>>56203116
First of all none of them are in stock
>are they topre compatible
sadly no

>>56203116
Buy some Novatouch stems if you care that much.

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yay or nay

>>56203221
Nay nigga

>>56203221
>layers
XD

>>56203310
why?

>>56203344
Too many keys

Happy Hacking Professional 2 or KBT Pure? Haven't used mechanical keyboards before but want to get one and I have money to spend.

>>56203988
Those are wildly different keebs. Thre HHKB is Topre switches while the KBT uses Cherry MX.

If you've never owned a mech, get a switch tester before you go dropping $200. There's dozens of switch styles and finding a switch style you like is a big first step

Are the pastebins up to date?
If no where can I get Cherry MX switch testers for the cheapest

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I'm gonna buy this am I fucking up or what

Name a better keyboard than the Apple Extended Keyboard II. Protip: you can't.

>>56204812
Overpriced and bad stock keycaps. Consider Ducky keyboards if you want full size.

>>56204924
I'm going to get a keycap set

My other choice was a ducky shine 5

>>56205039
The Ducky Shine 5 seems like the better option if you're not particular about stabilizers or the mini USB connection. If you're swapping keycaps, you'll appreciate Cherry stabilizers a lot more than Costar.

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Anyone know when the Ducky One RGB TKLs are gonna be back in stock? Been waiting fucking forever.

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i actually did it, now i'll just have to wait for it to arrive

i'm so glad i didn't give up the rgb lights. the only real disadvantage is probably that this doesn't have the raw black POM keycaps since it has to let light through. sure, the non-RGB version has gateron switches but the noppoo switches also seem to be pretty consistent and and people seem to actually prefer noppoos over cherry mx.

>>56205097
Honestly it's just a fuckin keyboard to me, couldnt care less about technical stuff as long as it's generally a quality built item and this code seems to be pretty solid

>>56205391
You'll begin to hate Costar stabilizers when you start to swap keycaps. Bitch to put on and a bitch to take off. You can also get away with not lubing Cherry stabilizers but with Costars, they'll get irritatingly rattly.

>>56203069
>They use Cherry MX switches and have solid build quality, so yes
inb4 non-standard R1 and poor reliability

Oh wait.

Where are all the non mechanical TKL boards?

>>56204446
AliExpress/amazon

>>56202874
>click clack edition
Lol, if you say so with a board like that
>>56202956
Nope
>>56203096
K70s tend to be first mechanical keyboards - that's likely why he "swears by it"
>>56205922
You know what thread you're in, right? Anyway, I'd probably look for stuff labelled "compact" or "mini" or something then just sort by price (lowest) wherever you're looking

Red or brown switches? which do you prefer

Guys can anyone help me out? Should I get the Filco or the WASD keyboard.

>>56206072
i don't have personal experience but from what i've read it's maybe red for gaymen but brown for low-noise typing or combined gaymen/typing

>>56206220
Why are you even chiming in then?

>>56206265
so you would have preferred if i had written
>maybe red for gaymen but brown for low-noise typing or combined gaymen/typing
because that's about the caliber of the advice you'd get from /mkg/

>>56205348
I'd return this board asap, I bought one similar from England the other week and they aren't even using MX Cherry's anymore, they're using their own keyswitch variant.

The build quality has gotten worse and overall? You're just asking for a bad time in all fairness.

>>56202956
I have the Corsair K65 and let me tell you, even compared to one of the worst boards in terms of build quality, QA and just overall feel (Noppoo Choc Mini (2013 version)), they are terrible.

They use a very low quality ABS Keycap, the legends aren't even lasered on, they'ye literally fucking stickers. The quality of the metal on the board is nice, but apart from that? Absolutely fucking horrendous board.

Honestly, buy anything else apart from a Corsair board, they cater to the "gaming" market because a lot of gamers don't know any better, but if you visit any mech board enthusiast forums, you'll quickly learn that the Corsair brand of keyboards are a gigantic pile of shit.

>>56206301
what's wrong with their own switches? and yeah i'm aware of the build quality but it's just going to sit on my desk, i'm not moving it around in a backpack

>>56206328
Their own switches are based of either Kailh switches or gaterons I believe, they're not as enjoyable as traditional MX Cherry switches and because of that, the shelf-life and quality of those switches is diminshed.

In regards to the build quality, bad build quality = bad board, it'll feel cheap, typing will not be an enjoyable experience and so on and so forth.

If you really want the board, go ahead, but a lot of people have problems with NCM's around the 6-month mark.

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What does /g/ think about the Logitech G610 and Qpad MK-50?

>>56206385
Surprisingly, they're not that bad. If I did get a board from Logitech, I'd rather TKL board, but overall? Not a completely shitty board.

7/10

>>56206406
edit:

the Qpad MK-50 is shit though.

>>56206406
What are the excact downsides?

>>56206342
which keyboard did you buy and which switches? people are saying the noppoo blue switches manufactured by gaote are comparable to cherry mx blue. and i really want this layout and rgb so i'll probably manage with the build quality.

>>56206072
reds and i don't even like linears that much.
i got browns on my first mech because of fucks like >>56206220 who will happily repeat the brown-all-purpose meme without any personal experience.
honestly browns feel like wobbly reds, the "tactile bump" is barely noticeable.

>>56202874

why are mechanicals are still so expensive? demand is still huge? or costs are huge?

>>56206536
what price range are you looking at? some chinkboards are fairly affordable

>>56206536
production costs mostly. when you go rubber dome you are replacing 104 individual components containing multiple moving parts with 1 printed plastic sheet and 1 rubber mat

many mechanical boards are overpriced though

>>56206385
"Gaming" boards tend to have "sharp" edges on the keycaps. My Model M, while not as crispy click, has the softest and comfiest keycaps.

A matter of preference.

Guys Should i buy a Filco or a WASD keyboard?

In massdrop the WASD is like 120 dollars. Is it th same built quality as the Filco? Also its my first Mechanical Keyboard which im getting Cherry MX browns. Did i do a good choice? I play a lot of games.

>>56206547
>>56206615


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S5E4LX0/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i2_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=A79G3EP6PSNSBJCXC8AG&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=6aad23bd-3035-4a40-b691-0eefb1a18396&pf_rd_i=desktop

that simple full keyboard is good for my taste but I'm suspicious about the quality control at that price range. I always prefer price/performance products. is that price normal for what it is?

>>56204812
yeah, macs are shit

>>56206802
the price seems reasonable. the quality probably isn't the best but it could be decent enough assuming you aren't a keyboard aficionado. keep in mind you're paying around a $10 premium for the cherry mx switches, /mkg/ prefers gateron switches which are cheaper.

>>56206615
>production costs
>in a world where everything comes out of china
I wouldn't be surprised if our country started importing babys out of china soon

>>56206908
and the key caps are probably ABS. PBT and POM are better

Guys is this worth it?

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/24001

>>56206908

hmm. do you recommend that I look for clean 2nd hands from better quality control brands? is it always better to buy new?

>>56206802
>https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00S5E4LX0/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i2_r?ie=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=A79G3EP6PSNSBJCXC8AG&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=6aad23bd-3035-4a40-b691-0eefb1a18396&pf_rd_i=desktop
it's fucking 80 USDs, shit should be golden...

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Is this worth buying? It's only $89 on newegg now.
The switches are very comfy according to the reviews.

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>>56206994
>ABS plastic keys
no

also look at that shit, the caps are fucking spray painted

>>56206737
Filco has much better quality materials and QC. WASD make some of the cheapest caps around.

>>56207163
Dude im gonna buy this with it.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/24009

What do you think now?

>>56207179
See this >>56207181
Im on the verge of buying it. I just want your guys opinion because i really want something exactly like the WASD but not ducky.

>>56207179
>>56207181
Also whats PBT plastic? Is it good? Thats the rainbow keycaps im buying with the WASD code. Please give me ur opinion i got 2 hours left before i can buy it.

What is general opinion about Plum?

>>56207181
>What do you think now?
that you are a massive faggot

>>56207241
Why? Just because i like that the set looks cool? Dude I I wanted your opinion on the keyboard. Thanks for being a faggot.

>>56207192
The caps look decent, PBT is the material they're made from vs the cheap thin ABS that WASD uses.

They turn shiny after use so it looks like you have permanent cheeto dust fingers rubbing on them. That said, I'd still get the Filco for the other parts (case, PCB, quality control)

>>56207269
Cool, I canceled it then. Since im new to mechanical keyboards I want my first keyboard to be near perfection. How is the ducky series, as in built quality. If I still did not make up my mind by today Im just gonna get the Filco and try to find another set of Key Caps. Do you know which Keycaps material is the best as in durability and quality? I dont really want a keycap that wears off or gives that permanent cheeto dust effect.

>>56207353
POM and PBT are both miles better than ABS. Ducky is right up there with Filco. They have models with both ( see https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=111 ) so if you're not set on buying a new set of caps, the PBT models would be the cheapest route.

Perfection can get into the thousands, but these are a very good options all-around for most.

>>56207409
Cool, thanks man. Last question then I am done. It seems Ducky shine 6 is going to be released in 2017. Do you think I should wait for Ducky Shine 6 or Just get the 5?

What can you tell me about Cooler Master Quickfire XT?

>>56207464
Nah I doubt it'll be that big of a change. If you're still into mechs by then, you'll prolly want something a little different for variety anyhow.

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>>56207265
because you left out an important part of your order in the first post
i don't care if you want your keyboard to look like a candy necklace

>>56206802
It's Rosewill, and it's priced about right. It's fine.

>>56207205
PBT has a more coarse feeling as opposed to the smoothness of ABS caps. It also takes a lot longer period of time to develop shine. They're generally regarded as better, but exceptions and personal opinion both exist.

>>56207476
What do you want to know?

>>56207923
If they're good for 120€ and how they compare with other mech keyboards in their price range.

>>56203221
do it senpai
i just got mine last week.
Coming from a fullsize board, I thought I'd miss having the arrow keys on the side or the numpad but I transitioned pretty easily.

Why are you buying a """"like new"""" one from CL if websites have it for the same price new and usually no taxes or shipping costs?

>>56204812

Ducky shine!!!!!!

I live in Austria and my budget is 100€ tops, what mech keyboard should I buy, considering I want brown switches and a really solid build quality.

I've already researched a bit, and come to the conclusion that there are literally no vendors selling "no name" keyboards directly to austria without paying huge import fees (namely Azio MGK1-K, VM90 etc)

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who here @work?

>>56210036
disqusting

What do you do senpai?

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>>56210260
CAM

>>56210036
poor leopold

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cherry TKL when?

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Anons, I need your opinions here.
Only keyboards I can find around here are

Corsair K70.
Razer shit I don't want to buy.
Logitech meme keyboard that costs too much.
And some Tesoro ones.

The later made me a bit curious if they are at least decent because they cost half of the other keyboards.

Tesoro Excalibur for example is less than half the corsair one.
Is it a good idea? Anyone here had any experience with that brand?

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>>56210445
I want to know how long topre lasts before the dust kills it

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>>56210524
>that pc
>not dead

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Sup /g/, I've got an MK Disco and I want white translucent key caps like this. Anyone have any recommendations? Are the ones sold by MaxKeyboard (pic related) any good? I've got a $100 amazon gift card but I couldn't find any on there.

>>56202956
Yes, but don´t get used to the leds and stay away from the newer models unless you want a tramp stamp staring back at you

>>56210548
it just drip feeds CAM files
it currently thinks it's in 1980 because it cant retain time settings

>>56203342
Layers are pretty comfy
>>56206342
Gaterons are pretty comfy
>>56210794
Not comfy, end it's misery
>>56210507
Where do you live anon?

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>>56210845
no
it gets to die when it can no longer do it's one job

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MX Greens

>>56210869
i should also mention it's been on 24/7 for years with the only break being occasional power outages

Does anyone know of a nice looking TKL keyboard that has floating keys, some sort of backlight, and a standard bottom row?

The Corsair K65 RGB would be berfect except having to pay 250$+ for a custom set of bottom row keys.

>>56210895
Idk what floating keys are but get the MK Disco is like $125 and has nice lighting. idk about the bottom row.

>tfw no greens

>>56210845
>Where do you live anon?

South america, things are a bit too expensive here due to stupid import taxes (they range from 50 to 100% of the product value if I buy anything from amazon).

That's why the Tesoro Excalibur TS-G7NL seemed great, may be chink shit but from what I googled it's real cherry mx red switches and they cost less than half for a corsair K70 (my other choice 2bh since I don't want more razer shit).

I'm thinking about buying this Cherry MX Board as my first mechanical keyboard ever.

https://www.amazon.de/Cherry-G80-3850LXBDE-2-MX-Board-Professional-Tastatur/dp/B00HDZTMBS

Should I?

What's the difference between "Brown Soft" (in the name of this product) and regular Cherry MX Brown switches?

Also, anyone else here using a German QWERTZ keyboard with a normal (English US) QWERTY layout? Is it even noticeable? I don't really look at the keyboard when typing, just asking if there's some extra buttons or something.

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>>56211309
i have
it makes no difference

the left ISO key is just \|

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>>56211061
This.

(Keyboard is the Wooting One, which is not out yet.. and I am tired of waiting.)

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Oh hey, what could this be?

>>56211309
Brown Soft are like bags of sand.

>>56211681
Draconic dildoes?

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>>56211788
Sorry for disappointing you, it's just a lot of electronic stuff

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>>56211822
Going to use this and Arduino to fix my Zalman and then make a new keyboard when my switches arrive.

>>56203019
you are just a mainstream consumer not an enthusiast, no hate towards you friend

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Thoughts on the Blackwidow by Razer?

This was my first mech purchase about 4 years ago. it was like $100.

>all keys still work
>very accessible making it easy to clean if needed
>adjustable brightness
>macro keys

This keyboard is also extremely sturdy but it's also pretty fucking heavy and not designed for travel. I was recently looking into corsair's stuff but the more i look into it, the less i want to buy it, it looks like it's built cheap and wouldnt last more than 2 years.

I dont want to be a snob about keyboards and buy some off brand shit that's only popular because not everybody has it. I want a legitimately good mechanical keyboard but it's always "get corsair" or "get razer" and then proceeds the fanboy arguments.

This keyboard still works and what not but I have about 9 grand to mess with on a whole new setup so i really want to go all out. Plus I want to give this to a buddy of mine.

>>56212277
I bought one at a goodwill for $5, cleaned it and sold it for $30. It was really good for that.

>>56212277
i like the look of it but i dont like giving razer money even tough they have some decent products here and there.

Then again i dont like any keyboard that isnt topre or bs, im undecided about alps tough.

>>56207021
if you're looking for a specific make/model/configuration it could be hard to find it second hand, but if you're not too picky then sure it could be worth looking for them, you could look on geekhack and maybe reddit, a lot of these keyboard enthusiast have a whole bunch of keyboards so the ones they sell haven't necessarily been used much and they've probably been well taken care of.

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>>56206342
>they're not as enjoyable as traditional MX Cherry switches and because of that, the shelf-life and quality of those switches is diminshed

>>56212351
gotta love goodwill, gotta hate liars, it's whatever honestly, kids on the internet never change.

>>56213447
amen, brother.

>>56212379
I gave them money for a mouse pad, I really enjoy it. One of the best ones I have owned, (Don't get their double sided hard pad, get the Goliathus control)

>>56207145
I would pay at max like 70 for that. For 90 bucks you could find a waaaaaaaaay better alternative.

corsair STRAFE for example

Not a fan of corsair products, as most of the 100+ dollar ones are trash but this keyboard is a good alternative.

TT esports poseidon z, personal experience with it was wonderful, quiet but clacky, me personally, i would go with this one. really really like the switches as well

>>56213623
i never understood the hard pads, they're so wonky and hard to get used to and just seems like razer's gamepads are 100x better and more reliable.

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>>56214052
Corsair is shit compared to that. It's fully modular. "modular" as in the switches and the leds come out and may be swapped, so you can have blue switch keyboard with browns on qwert and reds on the arrows.

Also never have to worry about it breaking.

>>56214114
sounds like a meme, it's not a huge deal to have to desolder switches, it's not like you swap them every day

>>56214087
i really, really like my razer scarab (and razer deathadder), the glide is super smooth, if it wears out i'll get another one, but i guess there's nothing wrong with a good soft mouse mat

>>56214203
It's a big deal when you lose the warranty when you try to desolder them.

Seriously, why is corsair better than this? The switches seem decent enough, according to the newegg reviews. And according to the specs they should feel even better than cherries, because of only 1.5mm actuation point.

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>>56213623
Hard pads, especially the aluminum ones, make it so your mouse glides around super smoothly. Easy to clean too since your hand junk doesn't soak in.

>>56214350
I can see the appeal for hard pads, I am just saying skip the razer hard pad as it is shit tier.

Me personally will be textured(feel, has little bumps in it) soft pad for life.

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>>56214264
What kind of marketing bullshit did you eat this time that made you think that the height of the actuation point has anything to do with how the switch feels?

>>56214544
Well, it means you are able to type faster once you get used to it.

>>56214559
I have had mine for a few months and I find my self accidentally double typing or having a charging usb cable land on my keyboard and press a button. I am looking to move away from it.

>>56211881
Oh fuck. I didn't know desoldering was such pain in the ass. Here I am after desoldering around 10 switches and I'm not sure if I want to live anymore.

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>>56214630
Get a desoldering pump

>>56214643
I thought I wouldn't need one for just a single keyboard... Oh well, I will have to make a second order anyway.

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>>56206327
Stop talking shit. Everything in your post was a lie.
Corsair keycaps are painted, first of all.

I'll grant you they're not the thickest plastic, but they're intended to have light shone through them so no fucking shit they're not solid opaque laser-etched 2mm thick ABS, you fucking mongoloid.

I have a K65 RGB. I have owned Steelseries, Rosewill, and Cherry mech keyboards, as well as several Model Ms. Corsair makes a fine keyboard, and they've definitely improved massively since their first releases. I've yet to have any issues with the LEDs or switches and I have had it now for almost a year.

The software sucks but you can save your favorite color configuration to the memory of the board, and never have to use it again unless you want the typing effects.

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>>56214832
>I'll grant you they're not the thickest plastic
They're thin shit ABS. Vortex makes doubleshot keycaps that are translucent out of PBT and POM, and they let the light through perfectly fine while also being 1.47mm thick.

Just too bad that you can't replace the stock caps on the corsair thanks to that non-standard bottom row.

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>>56214901
>Just too bad that you can't replace the stock caps on the corsair thanks to that non-standard bottom row.

You can, it just looks a little off.

>muh uniform key gaps
please die

I'm just not enough of a keyboard autist to care. If the keys go down when I press them and make the letter I typed then I don't give a shit how thick the plastic is or whatever technique was used to put the letter on it, because neither of those things affect the quality of the switch or how well they were attached to the PCB.

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>>56215086
>If the keys go down when I press them and make the letter I typed then I don't give a shit how thick the plastic is or whatever technique was used to put the letter on it, because neither of those things affect the quality of the switch or how well they were attached to the PCB
Then you're in the wrong thread anon.

>>56215115
Someone must always serve as a buffer to the acidic environment created by elitists.

I love all your keyboards, I just wish you guys wouldn't be such cunts over aesthetics and feels when really what we're here to talk about is engineering.

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>>56215143
>when really what we're here to talk about is engineering

Not really. This thread is just about mechanical keyboard accessories as it is about the engineering behind them.

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>>56215143

>>56214114
So you ask for an opinion, deny given opinion defending what you originally questioned the durability and reliability of. Just order your shitty budget keyboard and move on.

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Just bought pic related with brown switches for my first mechanical keyboard. Is it any good? Didn't receive it yet.

>>56202956

Had a k70 rgb and one of the keys started double striking after a year. Corsair has a good warranty so they gave me some new edition of it and I sold that. Got a filco and haven't looked back

USERS OF 65% OR LESS:

I'm considering a pok3r for my next board. All I've had before are Full-Size and TKLs. I use arrow keys extensively when typing, so I'm not sure if I should go 65% or 60%. Can anyone with a 65/60/less chime in with how they use their arrow keys? Do you wish you had dedicated keys sometimes, or is a function layer natural now?

Thanks!

>>56215234
these "artisan" keycaps trigger me so hard, apparently it's really easy to DIY your own injection molding too

>>56215659
I use vim so it's mostly hjkl.
I don't have the Pok3r but my Poker 1 had a mode where the arrows would be mapped to other keys and it would stay that way until I pressed the same combo again.

>>56215659
>not using vi bindings

>>56215659
get 65% or 75% faggot you don't need to save one column of space

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I'm totally new to mechanical keyboards and didn't really understand the benefits before looking into the subject and watching some Youtube videos explaining the differences. I currently have a crappy Logitech K750 so I guess anything would be an upgrade but I would still appreciate some help in choosing what to get.

I would prefer a keyboard with as light caps as possible (i.e. register as fast as you touch them) and without tactile feedback. I would also like the keyboard to be as quiet as possible so I'm assuming red caps would be most suitable for my preferences? Something I don't really understand though are O-rings. Do they actually effect the noise made when pressing the keys or do they just "raise the feedback level"? Can you use multiple/thicker O-rings to raise the feedback level even higher?

Another thing that's hard to understand for someone without experience with mechanical keyboards is the huge ammount of keyboards available. Are there even any major differences or is it mostly down to preference, style etc.? Are all keyboards compatible with all types of switches etc.?

I'll post in accordance with the guidelines and hopefully someone would be so kind as to help me find something that would suit me.

>Budget: €200
>Location: Europe
>Switch type: Silent and soft so Red I guess...?
>Layout: Not sure, my current keyboard seems to be a mixture of ISO and ANSI. If I have to choose I guess I'd go ISO though.
>Form Factor: TKL (with arrow keys)
>Backlight: Yes, please.
>Current keyboard: Logitech K750 lol

WOT but hopefully some has the time to help a brother out and save me from Logitech hell...

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>>56205348
>tfw they still haven't dispatched it

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>tfw special snowflake colored key caps
>tfw colors other than gray or black
>tfw useless tiny keyboards
>tfw skull or otherwise shaped escape keys

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>get switch tester consisting of whites, greens, clears, and tactile greys
>greens feel lighter than whites

I thought greens were supposed to be heavier than whites? I'm guessing that maybe I'm getting the perception that they're lighter as a result of the click being a bit more pronounced (that is to say, the click sort of masks the push a bit), and maybe because they're a bit snappier when lifting up? Definitely having a hard time picking between the two switches, though, they both feel great. Clears are really good too, although the tactile grey is way too stiff for my liking.

>>56216272
Do you prefer useless big keyboards?

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>compact
>red switches
>no useless lights
>under $40
There is only one mechanical keyboard worth getting, and this is it.

>>56206414
i can confirm this, it's my daily driver (tfw poorfag so can't buy other kb) and 2 keys broke after ~10 months of usage, my 4-key is fucked and needs to be pushed into the left a bit and then pushed down so it registers while my Numpad-2 key just downright doesn't work anymore

also the retards at QPAD put the switches upside down, the cherry label is at the bottom instead of the top

but since i am posting here now anyways - what are good and cheap (less than 100€) keyboards? brown MX preferred

>>56216467
is it really worth it when it's so ugly though?

>>56216716
i'm certain some people who want to try them out first are looking for something cheap and i doubt they'll care about how ugly it is at a price this low

but hey who knows i can't exactly read minds

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TOTAL NOOB HERE

Which should i choose inbetween the:

Razer Blackwidow Ultimate
Razer Anansi
Razer Blackwidow Stealth

Also, if you have other suggestions, post them. I'm looking for something similar to these?

[spoiler]btw, these are mechanical keyboards right?
Because i've read about razer making some not-mech ones[/spoiler]

Please advise me

>>56215851
>>56215905
Thank you for your contribution.

>>56215850
Actually thank you for your contribution. I would imagine the pok3r works similarly, which would make using that layer way easier.

>>56216649
Putting the switches upside down is common practice if you have LEDs, or even if you don't. It doesn't really make a difference which way you put them in.

Also, it sounds like you have some cold solder joints. Get a soldering iron and some solder and fix those contacts

>>56216754
You shouldn't buy Razer.

No, you shouldnt't buy corsair either. Get a Ducky.

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>>56216760
>layers

>>56216768
idk man the fact that the switch are inserted upside down feels a bit odd to me - also MK-50 has no LEDs

thanks for the tip with soldering though, I'll see what I can fix when I get to it

>>56216716
I don't mind the look. At least the one I have doesn't have that brown-ish tint to it, it's just all white with a silver finish.

>>56216787
Impossible where i live
any other suggestions?

>>56216804
It's not odd at all. Cherries are symmetrical, so it doesn't matter what way you put them in. If they have another keyboard that features LEDs, they can use the same PCB fit both LED and non-LED versions.

>>56211666
Will be getting mine in November. Things are looking good for a beta board as well.

>>56216827
Filco

What is the appeal of cheap mechs? Its like buying cheap seafood.

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>>56214350
>>56214476
Fuck hard pads, Artisan Shidenkai master race

>dat perfect rubber
>dat comfy cloth softness
>dat ultra smooth glass coating

>>56217072
i don't really give a fuck what it costs just give me a proper 75% layout with rgb

>>56206054
There are only mini shitboards meant for HTPC setups. It seems like there are literally no cheap rubber dome boards that are 90% or 80%.
I want to try out the TKL meme for under $30 but I dont want to go full mechanical for it.

>>56217082
Once you use a glass coated Artisan pad, you never ever want to go back. A few years ago, I got a prototype from them. It was awesome, but they have improved the surface even more since then. With a G502 it is just fucking perfect.

>>56217379
I got an XSOFT. Actually planning to order a MED now that I got my G900.

>>56206054
>K70s tend to be first mechanical keyboards
mine was a K95 hand-me-down and wouldn't ya know it, one of the LEDs went out within a week.

quickly repped it with a Shine 4 and never looked back.

>>56217379
Is there a point if your desk is glass?

How to best clean semen and petroleum jelly off a used keyboard. I assume mostly its on the left side

>>56217656
>not licking up all your cum when you're done so you never have this problem
J E S U S

>>56217656
lool

>>56217656
kek

>>56217656
remove the keycaps and spray everything with screen cleaner fluid and rub it with a toothbrush or something

>>56217656
Douse it 99% alcohol and let it marinate for at least a day

>>56217725
I'm the buyer, not the seller

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>>56210036
I am.

>>56216277
Greens and whites are about the same. Maybe you're thinking of red, black, brown, or blue? They're the ones definitely lighter

I just bought a CM Storm Quick fire Rapid a few days back for ~$50 unopened from a friend. It'll arrive tomorrow, so am I in for a good or bad surprise?

Brown switched btw

Negro

>>56216826
I got the same one you got, for this >>56216737 reason. It is an excellent starter keyboard (I have an old IBM, but I'd never used a 60% before). I replaced most of the keycaps with taihao keycaps I had sitting around, but I didn't have any to replace the bottom row or the three top right keys. I can tell the switches aren't Cherry, but they're close enough. Wish it didn't have the arrow keys, but for $40 I can't complain.

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Who /cic/ clickin' in class this year!

Pic of my rig.

>>56219575
why are redditors such massive fucking faggots?

>>56219565
I agree on the arrow keys part, they're something I virtually never use and could have just been function keys. I haven't used cherry switches before but I do recall it saying they have "Cherry equivalent" switches, so fair enough.

>>56219575
I like the thought of using a mech on a surface, but your implementation is fucking retarded

>>56219599
>>56219686
Don't hate bros. Sometimes I get glances when I'm really hammering out the notes but I just look at them and be like, "don't you have a Facebook page to check?"

>>56219821
Please tell me you're not using blues or greens in class

>>56219575
i would hate your guts if i were one of your classmates

>>56219821
Back when I was in college, if some autistic fuck was clacking away with a mech in the middle of class I would have been furious.

>>56219832
They are blues. So what? I'm a very fast typer, like as fast as someone can talk, and I need switches that can keep up.

>>56219899
You would just hate because I'm about taking notes and getting good grades and you're about status updates and taking Facebook quizzes.

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>>56219955
Go fuck yourself you autistic shit.

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what's the sexiest board you guys own, for those with more than one?

I only have experience typing on a rosewill rk-9000 with blues, and some cheap keycaps from banggood.

I'm thinking about going with a topre board next, but I'd like to get some good looking PBT caps for it. What board + caps should I get?

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>>56220085
Lmao you mad.

Let your eyes have another feast on what serious typists take notes on.

>>56219955
Both Red and Brown switched have a lighter actuation point, and have no click. Browns still retain that nice bump to mark the actuation point, but with O-rings you could reduce the noise output tremendously.

>You would just hate because I'm about taking notes and getting good grades and you're about status updates and taking Facebook quizzes
Considering he only had a sentence and no part of it contained Facebook...which, I might add, hasn't been cool for quite a while. If you're trying to be on the hipster market try complaining about reddit or Instagram (which is still kinda old now). I mean, you do realize you're trying to accuse someone posting on a technology board of an image board site of being "normal", while you're the only one who has picture proof of being on a more "in" site.

If you want to be hip by being "out", don't go to an "out" place to accuse people of being "in". That other guy is also being a complete ass about this, but at least he doesn't pretend he is so much better.

>>56220162
consider my fedora tipped

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>>56220162

>le serious typist

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>>56220162
I also set my boy Steve up with his own /cic/ rig. Blue switches like mine. They are a little loud but everyone knows that blues are the best for typing.

>>56220162
>claims to be serious typist
>only provides pictures no stats
It's probably a fine keyboard, but implying an anonymous poster isn't a serious typist in a mechanical keyboard thread is pretty silly. Yes, you're silly.

>>56220142
Hard to choose between them, it's like picking a favorite song. Many look awesome in their own ways, especially the older 60s-70s ones with more distinct designs.

reminder that numpads are totally lacking in aesthetic sensibilities

>>56220277
If you need a numpad you don't care, if you don't need it then you don't care. The only thing I use a numpad is for old Spiderweb Softeare games

>>56219575
wait a sec this is bait, i didn't even look at which website he was on, i recognized the shoe meme but somehow it didn't click, damn 8/8

Need help famalam, probs gonna pull the trigger on a 75% soon, but conflicted on which to get

winkeyless bmini or
keyclack . com/product/gb-ps2avrgb/

thx in advance

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>>56219599
>>56219686
>>56219832
>>56219899
>>56219901
>>56220085
>>56220178
>>56220207
>>56220216
Caught me a Marlin!!!!!

>>56220338
^ clever fish

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>>56220409

>>56220404
that website is a pos

also keyboards smaller than fullsize shouldn't have wasted space in my quite honest opinion desu

>>56215800
where did you read this and can you link

>>56219575
I would have a word with you after class, anon.

>>56220338
>>56219899
>>56219686
>>56219599
>>56220683
y'all realize that the pic is over a year old, right? You fell for the bait.

>>56221073
>wait a sec this is bait
yeah i realized

>>56220213
>my boy Steve
>Steve
why not Ford Prefect?

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Who else Cooler Matser here?

Send help

>Budget
As long as it's under the £200 mark I'd be happy
>Location (continent at least)
UK
>Preferred switch type
No preference really, I'll take anything if it's recommended highly enough - I mainly play videogames and do a fair bit of programming so something that balances nicely between those two things.
>Layout
QWERTY - I assume this is what is meant by layout
>Form factor
Tenkeyless ideally.
>Backlight
I'd prefer not to have one, shiny shit is irritating
>Previous/current keyboards
My current keyboard is the Corsair K95 - it's needlessly large, gets dirty very easily and I hate the shit software that comes with it and all the pointless lights. Before that I had the Quick Fire TK, didn't much care for the tenkey / navkey combination - I'd prefer just the navkeys honestly.

>>56203221
Poker 2 is quite comfy, so yay for third

>>56211485
looks like a pretty brick

would clackety clack

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>tfw member of the prestigious Ducky master race

Just kidding, Filco is the real master race. But I still like my Ducky.

>>56223185
They're pretty much the same quality, and nowhere near the top of the mountain

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>considers himself a proficient computer user
>needs LEDs in his keyboard to type in the dark

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>>56223289

>>56223107
Deskthority on popular keyboard layouts: https://deskthority.net/wiki/ANSI_vs_ISO
Layout for us brits is usually ISO-UK.

For ISO TKLs, there's fair amount of choice, especially for your budget.

Some good ones:

Cooler Master QFR/QFS/Novatouch
Ducky TKLs (Shine, Zero)
Filco Majestouch
Realforce 88UB
WASD/Code maybe

If you were willing to give ANSI a shot, there's a bit more choice e.g. Varmilo, Leopold etc.

For switches, I'd recommend getting a tester. All of the keyboards I've listed (except the Novatouch and Realforce) come in many different flavours of MX-style switches. The CM Novatouch and RFs have their own type of switches that may be worth investigating

>>56223289
This pretty much. Seriously if you need to look at your keyboard ever to do anything ,you're a turbodweeb loser.

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>>56209368
Cherry MX Board

Reminder that no grown-up needs:
* colored key caps
* LEDs
* braided cables

>>56223256
I dunno. They're certainly up there, especially compared to other stuff around the same price. I mean, it's not gonna beat a model M or HHKB on that front, but they're definitely better than most stuff.

>>56223315
>>56223289
>LED keyboards must be looked at

EL YU EL is this is what pederastycartoonbabbies actually believe

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How shit are my life choices here?

>>56223795
Why Browns though?

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>>56223818

I hear they are a good balance for typing and gaming. I will mostly being using my PC for work/school work (e.g. programing and pressing all of the shortcuts) but I will be playing some CS and the like from time to time.

Are Browns super bad? The only mechanical keyboards I have used before was a razer one my friend had that I didn't care for so I legitimately have no idea.

>>56223866
They're a shitty compromise between reds and clears. Better to pick one or the other (reds for super light smoothness, clears for heavier/much more tactile)

>>56223887

Well this keyboard has the option to use Reds as well. Would Reds be really bad for typing as that is my main concern. Also do you know anything about this keyboard/Filco? I am looking for something good quality, functioning, and fairly plain looking. I am looking to get work done not "show off my gamer cred". Also thanks for the advice so far.

>>56223935
Reds aren't bad for typing, but I prefer clears for the tactile feedback. I like blues for typing too, but dunno if you care about the noise.

Filcos are definitely good quality, and you can find many owners/reviews in archives of these threads. If you want other options, Ducky, KUL, and Tex are similar quality.

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>>56224010

Thanks a ton you saved me a headache and some wasted money. I'll take a look at those other brands you mentioned but so far it looks like I will go with the one above but using Reds.

>>56223887
This isn't true at al. Reds are light and linear, blacks are heavy and linear. Browns are light and tactile, clears are heavy and tactile. Blues are light and clicky, greens are heavy and clicky.

>>56224112
Please read my reply to jackass above.
Browns are fine, in fact they're one of the two most popular for typing (along with blues). Clears are fairly hard to find and are up until recently were relegated to the space bar and ESC keys on boards with overall brown switches.

And reds are a really, really recent development. If anything they're a compromise between black and brown/blue. They're linear, so unless you want to always bottom our your keys while typing you should learn to be really good at pushing just enough.

Browns have a very nice bump to indicate the actuation point, and since they're fairly light they're suitable for the majority of people. Clears are great, but definitely not better or even as well known as browns. Please don't listen to random hipsters.

>>56223866
Yeah I know that lots of reviewers recommend Browns as the best compromise for both gaming and standard typing. While I was looking for a new mech keyboard, lots of people here suggested me either Reds or Blues. I chose Blues at the end and I'm super satisfied with them: I play fps games that require quite a good precision and rapid movements and Blues are great! I like their sound and they're really comfortable. Do Filco keyboards have PS/2 adapters btw? If they do, I recommend to use it.

>>56224196

You just repeated what he said, idort. They're reds with a tactile bump that feels like dirt.

>>56224230
The biggest downside of blues is that the actuation and de-actuation points are different.

>>56224196
Apparently the only thing shittier than brown's tactile bump is your reading comprehension

>>56223319
Nobody needs a mechanical keyboard in the first place.

>>56224255
>>56224295
>samefaging this hard
You have shit taste so I told it to him straight. Saying it's a compromise between the others is extremely inaccurate because of the implications.

Are Blues a compromise between Browns and Greens?

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>>56224443
No, since blues are actually tactile.

Browns feel like reds with dirt in them unless you type slower than a snail in a pit of salt.

>>56224443
Who said anything about blues being anything like browns? I said reds are smooth and browns have a shitty tactile bump (they do). Both are the same weight, and clears are heavier browns with a better tactile bump.

You said nothing contrary just threw an autismal shitfit with technical terms to confuse the guy.

Thinking of buying a mechanical keyboard for the first time
>$140
>USA
>Cherry MX Blue
>ANSI
>60%
>White LEDs are best but I don't mind RGB
>CMStorm Devastator
I'd like to make my first something good, so that I don't end up regretting it in the future. But for that I'm gunna need some help.

>>56215800
>injection molding
This shit is resin cast.

>>56212050
u rite.
i was gonna get a DS5, but corsairs RGB offering was better IMO
and muh multimedia keys

https://zealpc.net/collections/group-buy-pre-orders/products/zealencio

Silencing clips for plate-mounted Cherry/Gateron switches. Colour me interested, if also unsurprised at the high price.

>>56211119
Tesoro ain't chink shit, actually did met representatives of the company in Poland. I recently bought a legit (kek) chink shit keyboard, but you know, until I know how is it it's gona take a month or so ( but hey, 30 dolars?)

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>>56210460

I would legit cream my pants if they made a 1000/3000 TKL with a hefty case.

>>56217082

I liked that mouse pad a lot. After some abuse mine started to have glass dust coming off everywhere after a few months so I gave it away. It was supposed to replace my razer destructor mousepad. Razer released the destructor 2 so I bought that after I got rid of the artisan. The original destructor mouse pad lasted me so many years the only problem was the retarted gaymer shape but then they fixed it so its perfect now. Im not quite sure if it will be as durable as the older one though.


>>56222737

I got me one with OG Cherry caps.

>>56224286

That silly jig is why I don't like blues very much.

>>56223107

Just go here and pick a Filco. You will be hella happy.

http://www.keyboardco.com/category.asp?path=mechanical%20keyboards

>>56223319
>really solid build quality

you forgot to list that as something grown-ups don't need either, because otherwise this is a pretty shitty suggestion.

i am typing this on a cherry mx board 3.0 and it is a nice board, especially if you want to use it at work and have your employer pay for it, but it bends really easily.

>>56218454
Sick keycaps, bro. Where did you get them?

>>56224286
>>56224898
Do you mean the rest time of the buttons? I got used to it quite instantly.

>>56224914

Aw thats disappointing. I really wanted to try one and see if cherry finally made a keyboard that didn't feel like balsa wood. The 3000 seems to be the best but its not great at all.

>>56224441
You know, after typing everyday a shitload of lines of code you'd want every fucking way of making your writing time less frustrating. That's why I'd buy a fucking MS4000 ergonomic if they made them with a trackpoint and mechanical switches anytime.

Got a kbparadise v60 mini with Green gateron switches on Route. With pbt key caps. Any experience? Have a poker 3 with clears cherry atm

>>56224987
Build your own.

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>forget I bought new keycaps
>they suddenly arrive
They look like some gayman shit but they were the cheapest I could find so it's fine. Seems like they're doubleshot and the legends are transparent which doesn't really matter since I won't probably ever have a keyboard with backlight.

>>56224987
ergodox + trackball

playing games on a mechanical keyboard will ruin it and wear out keys

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>>56225268
This is a new one

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>>56225268
>>56225314
but it's true...if you're using one with shitty ABS caps like corsair or das

Where can I get a set of like, $25 keycaps. I found some on AliExpress, but I'm having a hard time searching effectively anywhere. I can only find like one set on Banggood. I have a MagicForce 68 coming in and I'm definitely going to want to change the caps. It's just a throwaround board so I don't need the finest keycaps in the land

>>56225439
Aliexpress is great for midrange PBT caps

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/No-Keycap-Board-included-Blank-White-108-PBT-Keycap-For-OEM-Cherry-MX-Switches-Mechanical-Gaming/32561114555.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-Side-printed-Blue-108-PBT-Keycap-With-Keycap-Board-For-OEM-Cherry-MX-Switches/32513276930.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Arrival-Side-printed-Front-Print-White-108-PBT-Keycap-With-Keycap-Board-For-OEM-Cherry/32511945860.html

>>56225871
Thanks friend

>>56225871
Does anyone make any knockoff caps with that big block font like the jukebox or 1976 uses? I'd be down to buy real ones but they are sold out in every color, everywhere.

>>56226238
Not at that price, PMK has some real Quartz sets left but they're 100 bux

http://pimpmykeyboard.com/dsa-quartz-keycap-set/

>>56226303
Word, I knew they would be pricier, but if I'm considering spending ~$40-50 on fake ones, it's not a bad idea to go for the real deal.

So R4 zealios are up. I've never modded a keyboard before, and I'm considering putting zealios in my Filco Majestouch 2. Is it safer to order the 65g plate mounted version, or can I order the PCB mounted version?

>>56225408
that's why you have special keycaps on wasd for gaming, duh

>>56210036
The most disgusting part of the image is that he picked Burger King and not McDonalds.

>>56226552
not him but we didn't have burger king in my town (now that we do, i can see why it's complete bleh) so burger king was a bit exotic to me

>>56224928
Oh theyre the default on filco ninjas. I've got 1 at home as well, they're really nice and sturdy.

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>>56205348
fucking slow dicks

>>56227267
should have bought prime

>>56226583
>>56226552
Why not go to Chick-Fil-A

>repairing a keyboard
>look for different springs to put into switches since I'm disassembling it all anyway
>1.5$ per spring
Duh.

>>56227386
what springs are you looking for?
Something like this?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1184

any decent (read: affordable) keycaps for cherry mx that's available in the UK? always find nice ones but it's insane shipping from the US

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>>56227604
I want shorter springs with around 50 cN force at actuation so that the graph would be steeper. Cherry springs are about 14mm long while the casing has ~8.7mm space for it. I want the switch to start with lower force and end with higher.

>>56227339
Last I checked there was literally only one chick fil a in NY

>>56227825
It's funny when a chick fil a opened up in my town they had to shut down the highway because too many people kept coming. I felt bad for the Wendy's and Taco bell because they closed

>>56227792
so something like this where the actuation force is 50g but it takes 60g to bottom out?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1866

>>56227919
Like that, but even more pronounced. With 9mm spring you could get almost 100g on bottom out with 50g on actuation. Thanks for suggestions, might get those if I don't find anything affordable.

>>56228099
the best I could find was 100g to bottom out and 80g actuation force

>>56211309

I bought one of these, horrible build quality, the USB port destroys itself on its own within 12 months. Cherry should stick to doing switches and leave actual keyboard making to the pros like Razer.

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>tfw bought 4 sets of keycaps but didn't use them because black blanks are too damn comfy

>>56202956
They make good looking keyboards. Can't say anything about the quality though. Also they're expensive as fuck.

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Man I want to get one of these but I can't get in contact with them.

>>56228817
who's that

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>>56228894
i wish i didn't miss that keyset

QFR with Brown, should I do it?

>>56228942
I know there's so much shit I missed. I wonder when they will drop them again.

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Looking for some help

>Budget
$100
>Location (continent at least)
US
>Preferred switch type
Brown
>Layout
QWERTY
>Form factor
87 Key/Compact
>Backlight
Don't care, prefer not but whatever
>Previous/current keyboards
TT eSports Poseidon Brown
Z77 Mechanical Eagle Blue

>>56228894
what memeboard (not the keycaps) is this?

>>56229093
light save v1.0
There is also an option with arrow keys

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>>56229059

>>56229115
>light save v1.0
meant to say "saver"
missed an r sorry

>>56229093
Also don't bother unless you have $500 to spend on a keyboard

>>56206072
>Red or brown switches? which do you prefer
Blacks

>>56229115
thanks
>>56229177

and damn

>>56229122
Better than QFR? They have a Noppoo on Amazon for $95 RN.

>>56228899
Some russian guy. He's a winner

Any decent mk sellers in the UK?

>>56206072
I have Kailh reds keyboard and one Cherry brown (on switch tester) and when I first received the tester I thought browns feel just like grainy reds, with the bump barely noticeable. Now I feel like trying out a full brown keyboard for some reason. Maybe because I ordered Gateron brown switches since they are supposed to be more smooth and with more tactile bump. I hope I didn't get memed. Also, >>56229182 speaks the truth. Reds feel too light for me.

>>56229285
Essentially the same, choc mini is 65% while QFR is 80%/TKL.

>>56203221
Yay, using one for a few months now and love it.

>>56202874
I'm making a video series with my Das Model S Ultimate with Cherry MX Browns.

Anyone that enjoys listening to the sound of these keyboards I think would enjoy these videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1ucgbcOVOM

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Has anyone tried out the Magicforce 68? I don't have any previous experience with mechanical keyboards and figured it's cheap enough to just try out. After a bit of reading up and watching some comparison videos I think I'll probably feel the most comfortable with red switches. I started looking for a cheap Magicforce and found one on Amazon, although it says "Kailh Red switch (Cherry MX equivalent), Pressing force: 45g + -20g".

I know Kailh is generally lower quality (although some people say they don't notice the difference) but how the hell can it be +/-20g? I'm buying reds because I want light switches and I'd hardly consider 65g light...

Do all cheaper switches have this huge variation? If so, are other brands like Cherry more exact?

>>56230743
The hell is that high-pitched hum?

>>56230751
I have one waiting in my vestibule right now, will report back this evening. I've been using exclusively ALPS switches for a few years now. Mine is coming with Outemu blacks tho.

>>56230743
>video series of typing
>calling it asmr with mic humming & game audio coming through speakers
>using mx browns

>>56230816
>calling it asmr with mic humming & game audio coming through the speakers

Some people like to be immersed by imaging a computer environment. Computer fans are unavoidable.

>using mx browns

Fuck you MX browns sound much more pleasing than blues.

>>56230903
>Some people like to be immersed by imaging a computer environment. Computer fans are unavoidable.
regardless of either of those, it defeats the purpose of asmr. might as well rename them "me playing video games"

>Fuck you MX browns sound much more pleasing than blues.
both are shit

>>56231071
>both are shit

>being contrarian for the sake of it :^)

>>56231071
ASMR triggers are different for everyone you know. There is no "right" way to do ASMR.

>>56231136
b-b-but some people like shit anon

>>56231114
or both are just shit. enjoy your babby's first switch while you can.

>>56231136
kek

back to youtube comments friendo

>>56231179
What switch do you prefer? Do you even like keyboards?

>>56231228
>What switch do you prefer?
actual tactile switches like gateron clears, meme-ios, cherry clears kinda

>Do you even like keyboards?
of course
what else would fill the meaningless void?

>>56231299
>what else would fill the meaningless void?
Is that true? Will my void be filled when I get my switches to assemble a keyboard?