/guts/ thread

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>>56185348
I dig it.

I should have my loop complete on Tuesday. Then the system is done, aside from small/periodic upgrades.

>>56185395
Don't post again until you do.

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>>56185348
Kiss me

1070 is in the mail, so keen

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>>56185415
Aiight homie.

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>>56185348
thats pretty neat man.
>>56185395
LED party man.
>>56185437
Pretty damn clean.

>>56185457
>LED party

I should take a picture with the LED's off. It looks so nice with them off.

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We Westmere now.

>>56185472
Just giving you shit it looks pretty decent but still pretty busy hehe.

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>>56185348
waiting for my fury x

>>56185642
I'm just curious, why use a low profile cooler in that case?

>>56185675
Judging by the 560Ti, I'd wager that he already had it when it got the case and just kept using it

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Want to change from the R5

Need to take another picture head on to it doesn't look like my GPU is sagging

>>56185724
My friend has one of those cards. Or one with the same cooler, anyways. His NZXT Kraken leaked all over it and fried it lmfao.

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>>56185765

Fuck how likely is that even to happen

>>56185789
I don't think very likely. NZXT's warranties the coolers for like 5 years. He just got really unlucky. I built it for him and everything was fine, for like four months. There wasn't any pressure or anything on the tubings either. Just really unlucky. NZXT is replacing his cooler and card though, so that's good.

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>>56185642
It won't disappoint :^)

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First build. Liking it so far. Finally put the GPU in on Friday.

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Migrating to a new ssd

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And she's done.
Still debating on red fluid versus what I have now and maybe changing the ram and sable sleeves but we will see.
R8H8

>>56187983
Personally I think you should go for the red fluid.

Looks sick dude.

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>>56188095
I'll have to look into color bombs.
I had some pastel red left over from the previous build and it foamed up badly, had to drain it.

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>>56185348
Muh nigga, building it as we speak

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Can't do anything about the cables unless I get a new modular PSU and get blue/grey sleeves for them to match the fans.
The 2 140mm fans I added only helped decrease idle temps, load temps the 1060 reaches 87 while at 2050MHz.

Corsair 400c for looks, or Define S for airflow?

>>56189367
the 400c is a cutie, i might that myself to replace my 300r.

Hi /guts/, want to make a Pentium II era rig for the lols

where do i find new parts, are there still retailers out there with shitloads of overstock from the late 90's?

ebay has some stuff but its all marketed as "RARE, HARD TO FIND" and is thusly 400$ new as compared to the same 333mhz P2 used for 5$.
I found a new motherboard in socket 1 for like 40$, and a new Asus Geforce 2 for 20$, along with ram and shit pretty cheap
but id like a new pentium, preferably in its original box

same thing with all components really, original p2 era stuff in its box or at least still with the box

>>56189207
>moved drives to the bottom (case can't fit the fan if I move it up)
>remove unused drive cages
>1060 peaks at 80c
I'm happy.
>>56189367
I want the 400c as well but the side panel WILL scratch very often and will be very visible, I know a guy with one, unless they changed the material of the window then don't get it.

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I'm not sure if I can fit a second 1070. Still want one though.

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I want to change case to Phanteks Evolv, so S340 only as temporary

>>56190007
>>56190074

Hey there case bros. >>56187128

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i should take a guts pic for shits and giggles

>>56185348
>>56185475
sandy bridge a best

>>56187827

Why are you changing? I have the Crucial one, was there any problems with it, or are you just moving for capacity?

>>56185348
nice spacer heater

>>56185395
i like this

>>56185437
looks pretty gay

>>56185642
shit

>>56187128
shit

>>56187983
shit

>>56188114
shit

>>56188310
shit

>>56189207
shit

>>56190007
shit x2

>>56190074
I like it, very clean!

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why don't more of you do this?

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>>56187128
>>56190007
>>56190074
ayyy good morning s340 bros

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>>56187128
>>56190007
>>56190074
>>56190945


more s340's plz

also; >>56190007 that 1070 is massive.

>>56187983
I like this. I always told myself if I went into liquid cooling I would go with matte black tubing, but this crystal clear hardline looks pretty sweet.

>>56185348
Jolines, tío!

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>>56185348

Would dual xeon X5550 2.66 run BF4@60fps with decent gpu?

>>56191230
Ive seen hell and it has wires

>>56191230
Those actually look a bit like human guts. Good job!

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>>56191230

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>>56191230
>>56191311

>>56185475
>>56185348

Only just come across from /tg/ here - what is the purpose of the dual Xeons? I thought they where crap for anything other than server applications?

>>56191265
Yes, should be fine anon.

>>56191365
>not having dual xeons

>>56191365
They are basically, even for encoding which can use a lot of CPU power, anything more than ~6-8 cores per project is passing the point of diminishing returns.

If you are encoding multiple projects at once, or have some specialized task that is very well threaded and can use all the cores, then it might be worth it.

But for the vast majority of uses old Xeons simply dont have the single core performance many of todays applications demand.

>>56190539
Going from samsung to crucial for another ~300 gig capacity, samsung ssd will get used as a Linux drive

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>>56185395
>>56185445

I haven't done a custom loop since a shitty, riced-out red affair for my old i5 750/GTX 295 back when I was 15, so indulge my stupidity for a second.

Is there any noticeable difference in temperatures with a huge reservoir? I ask assuming the larger total coolant volume would allow for more overall heat to be stored.

>>56191686
I don't believe reservoir size has an affect on temperatures.

>>56190852
See

>>56185437
>>56187128
>>56190007
>>56190074
>>56190945
>>56191022

>>56185348
if one CPU died is the computer still usable with the other?

>>56192403
Not him, but I'd imagine so. Similar to if a single GPU's dies in a multi-GPU system. You probably just have to remove one, or possibly swap where it is.

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i would really appreciate a rate myself guys.
>if you're replying to this post, please write a rate.
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>>56185348
3/10
>>56185395
9/10, if the SSD had harambe it would be 10/10
>>56185437
bad pic angle. 6/10
>>56185445
i can't rate what i cant see.
>>56185457
2/10 sorry man
>>56185642
4/10 pretty dark.
>>56185724
7/10
>>56186304
4/10
>>56187128
5/10
>>56187827
uhm
>>56187983
>>56188114
non red fluid. 8/10
red fluid 6/10
>>56188310
1/10
>>56189207
4/10
>>56190007
almost quads. 7/10
>>56190074
i just hate the tubing on that cooler. 6/10
>>56190945
7/10 i dont like yellow, dont judge. (yellow aside. 8 maybe 9/10)
>>56191022
6/10
>>56191190
6/10
>>56191686
8/10
>>56192095
6/10 shit pic, get a better one.

>>56192403
Depending the mobo, yes or not. Some dual-socket board are designed to work with both CPUs because one CPU work with some controllers and the other CPU with the another ones, but there are others boards which one CPU work with all the board and the other one give horsepower. In my case yes, It's usable with one CPU because her design

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>>56192449
>9/10, 10/10 with Harambe
I'll get on that.

>Can't rate what I can't see
Here's the radiator removed.

As for your own build... >>56192449
7/10. If you watercool the GPU, and replace that missing PCI slot cover, I'll give you an 8.5.

>>56192449
I will call yours a 6/10, mostly for your loop.

- It's running pretty warm for a two radiator setup, especially since just your CPU is on there. How high do you have it clocked?

- Your back run could be a little better so it doesn't have that curving loop.

- There must be a better solution than a super visible zip tie across the middle of your reservoir. Why not two black ones on the top and bottom of it, instead of where it's most readily seen?

- Do you have any intent on adding a water block to that 1080? I think you have the radiator and res headroom for sure.

- Consider removing your red PSU sticker for better color coordination.

- a nitpick, but your back exhaust could be a quiet AF120 to match your radiator fans.

Overall, you have great hardware that I assume you're using to push a fantastic 144fps on that display. Your system has potential to look as good as it performs.

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>>56192491
damn that's tight. 8/10

>take this harambe PSU for good luck.

>>56192510
- It's running pretty warm for a two radiator setup, especially since just your CPU is on there. How high do you have it clocked?
>not really, 27c idle 35-47c depending on game. (4.3ghz because shit silicon)
>gonna add GPU block but haven't ordered yet
- Your back run could be a little better so it doesn't have that curving loop.
>iknow, i just moved the reservoir and was too lazy to cozy it up.
- There must be a better solution than a super visible zip tie across the middle of your reservoir. Why not two black ones on the top and bottom of it, instead of where it's most readily seen?
>not really, nowhere to route it at the bottom of the res that attaches it to the tray. (and didn't have black zip ties yesterday.)
- Do you have any intent on adding a water block to that 1080? I think you have the radiator and res headroom for sure.
>yes.
- Consider removing your red PSU sticker for better color coordination.
>i think it looks awesome.
- a nitpick, but your back exhaust could be a quiet AF120 to match your radiator fans.
>i got the SP 120 fans for free, i want to swap them with noctua NF F120 pwm's and pain them white and black.

Thanks for the feedback anon.

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Some guy in the last thread had foam in his case. Would like to buy something like this for cheap. What do I have search for on ebay? Don't want to spend like 100$ for what is worth like 3$. It should be permeable to air and not cause an overheating of the PC.
Pic related is his PC.

>>56192609
https://www.amazon.com/SilverStone-21-Inch-Dampening-Acoustic-SF01/dp/B0040JHMH6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1471789078&sr=8-1&keywords=sound+dampening+foam+pc

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>>56192510
i can just do it now so i don't forget it, which one should i pick? pretty unsure. also, do you know if they come with thermal pads ? or do i have to order that too?
EK-FC1080 GTX Strix

>>56192798
Not him, but, EK's blocks come with thermal pads and thermal paste. I prefer acetal + nickel personally. I used it in my M1

>>56192874
do you know if i can use the backplate that came with the card while the block is on ?

>>56192957
It comes with a new backplate. Also, choose whichever you think looks cooler.

>>56192966
>>56192957
They don't come with new backplates, those are available separately.

No, the factory backplate doesn't fit.

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc1080-gtx-strix-nickel

>>56188114
I dont understand the principle of hard tubing. Is it just the o-rings that's holding tubing together. When using normal tubing the screw part tightens the rubber tube on its place so you couldnt even pull it away. What if you pull hard tube?

>>56193022
There are two styles, push-in and compression. Both do actually compress to help seal. The regular "compression" style is similar to soft tubing compression. A barb, and screw-on piece, just with an added o-ring. The push-in style are similar to a QDC I believe, in that they have a small section of the fitting either pull up, or pull down, you slide the tubing into place, and then put the fitting in it's normal/locked position.

>>56191333
Oh my. Thats alot of radspace. I like it all exept the red leds.

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r8 my guts senpaitachi

>>56192449
>2/10
Its like you have a problem with sleepers and bad vent holes.Also as for you better water cool your gpu, replace pcie cover on case, finish filling cum in your reservoir, and last if you want the last bit of aesthetic should fill your drive bays. 6/10 and could be 9/10 with proper detail management.

>>56189540
All the stuff before the P4 era has already been thrown out and recycled. Ten years ago it was cheap because there were tons and tons of old P2 computers around. Now there aren't, so it's become a collectible market.

Your best bet is to sit on craigslist and wait, or look for business throwing things out, garage sales by people who know no better, or find an electronics recycling place and see if they'll give you some of the junk that comes in.

>>56192449
>yellow aside. 8 maybe 9/10
thanks bb

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Planning on 128gb ram and a second cpu eventually. It's just a case for waiting for a non-ES one to pop up on ebay that isn't ball-breakingly expensive

>>56195200
>Its like you have a problem with sleepers and bad vent holes
yes, yes i do. thanks for the rate anon

>>56197525
but atleast it works only get around 80c from stress testing cpu. Going to sleeve my own cable probably.

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R8/H8. Not upgrading for a long while. Unless DX12/Vulkan becomes the norm.

>>56198265
put those drives on the bottom and remove the top drive cage for improved airflow, and fewer ugly empty trays

>>56198349
I would but I intend to add more drives hooked to a RAID controller eventually. Plus this case has a non windowed side panel.

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>mfw no (you)

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Should I change from the Define R5 to a Define S? Removing the HDD cages makes the case look horrible and cheap

>>56198436
Since I don't know which guts are yours, here's a (((you)))

>>56198447
not unless you're selling your current R5. You'd literally be paying for the exact same case with no HDD Cages/ 5.25" bays. Unless you're planning on liquid cooling, I wouldn't bother. If you must get a case that has no bays, consider the NZXT S340. Cheaper and shorter too.

>>56198436
which one anon? I'll rate it.

>>56198447
why do you want a case that big if you aren't going to fill it with drives?

>>56198559
S340 bro here. Love mah case. Not sure how standard of a feature this is on cases now, but I also like the external filters

>>56198447
Fractal cases are a meme. They're poorly made and extremely thin.

They're just riding the reputation of their previous products.

>>56199083

Evolv ATX TG is another one I love the look of, I'm using Noctua fans so a silence case isn't necessary

>>56199083
nigga what you smokin? My fractal R5 is easily the best made case I've ever had. Unless you're one of those fags who think the only case you can possibly consider well made is a $500 case labs/Silverstone.

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Should i sell my ref rx 480 for 1060? And if which aftermarket which doesnt have sag. >inb4 ur motherboard is small xd u retard

>>56192449
>6/10
at least it's a (you)

you get a 7/10 for your cum filled tubes.

>>56192449
>6/10 shit pic, get a better one.
My Windows phone can't take better pictures.

>>56193187
A little spaghetti

>>56190342
What do you use the Kingston for?

>>56199624
a little? that's a big mess for a modular psu

>>56199692
Lmao didnt see it was a modular xdd.
R8 my build is last one posted m7

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Noh8

>>56199727
this one?
>>56199316
6/10
>intel standard cooler
>24-pin and other cable (i assume USB 3.0?) crossing, looks meeh.
>get a cable tie and pin th 2 pins of the gpu-cable to the big part of it.
>i would prefer if every cable (except the single one on the left, under the N) would come from the side with the red cover, not from the bottom AND from the side

>>56199729
11/10

>>56199837
Ty sir much appreciated

>>56199859
you're welcome :)

>>56199729
How would one go about powering this many fans, exactly?

>>56200000
photoshop
>them digits

>>56200024
I didn't even notice muh digits, damn.
I don't have any misconceptions that this person is currently powering that many fans, just wondering what it would take. Fan controllers in every bay?

>>56199654
ganooix

>>56199624
yup :3

>>56199692
>modular
sadly not im afraid

>>56193187
what the fuck is this bait?
CPU Cooler directed at graphics card?

>>56200246
look at the RAM, senpai

>>56200270
So vent it up?

>>56200301
its pushing air upwards

>>56200314
I don't trust you. I'm confused by you. Fuck you.

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>>56200343
fuck you too, leatherhead

>>56200270
i call bullshit!

that looks like normal ram without fancy headspreaders, so there should be room for the fan to be directed towards the fan.

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>>56200355

>>56200270
i think you just had no clue what you're doing

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>>56200381
its all about spacing, baby, that RAM is too close, and this board was not designed to accomodate big rectangular heatsinks like that one

>>56200382
you wanna settle this in the ring, buddy?

>>56200397
if i orient it the other way, ill have metal making direct contact with the RAM PCBs

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>>56200405
Let's do it, bitch. I just happen to have my favorite weapon here.

I actually got an hp Z620 yesterday for $30, and it has a single xeon(sandybridge-e). It's superseded my old pc, which was a bit crappier.

>>56200422
I have a new suggestion.
Get a motherboard that doesn't fucking do this to you.

>>56200429
no weapons in the gym, buddy

>>56200444
but then how will i rock quad channel ECC with my xeon?

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>>56190074
comfy/10

>>56185348
What's with the kludgy fan? How does it not fall over?

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>>56190007
>>56190074
>>56190945
>>56191022
>>56199316
feels good to be part of the master race

on my lappy right now

>>56200532
that case is fugly desu senpai

>>56200532
Holy spaghetti and meatballs that is flaming hot! How you make the bottom part yellow though, my shit? Or just want to buy a fucking cheese?

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>>56200554
>my shit? Or just want to buy a fucking cheese?
literally, what?

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>>56200554
>How you make the bottom part yellow though, my shit? Or just want to buy a fucking cheese?

Has anyone ever really been far even as decided to use want to do look more like?

>>56200467
Great, so I can finally hit my phone with a hammer.
WHO GIVES A FUCK
Will it scratch from being in a pocket with car keys? yes? THEN I'M NOT IMPRESSED.
When will phone manufacturers stop being stupid.

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>>56200554
>How you make the bottom part yellow though, my shit? Or just want to buy a fucking cheese?

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What game would cripple my PC? Resolution scaling not included.

>>56200592
I meant how is all of your case yellow? Mine is red and black

>>56200641
Well what resolution are you at?

!080p60?
1080p120?
1080p144?
1440p60?
1440p144?
etc

>>56200641
Looks Nice.
Cpu?

>>56200664
1080 60hz

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>>56200431
The picture isn't great, but I think the setup is OK. The tabs near the ram are flipped, because I was testing if this machine would take non-registered ddr3 modules [spoiler]it doesn't[/spoiler]. I've basically accepted that I'll never get rid of this gtx 670, since I'm not particularly interested in gaming anymore, and it's relatively fast, so I'm not worried.

>>56200676
2500k @4.5

>>56200755
I dont think Any game will cripple your pc. Do you?

>>56200788
I havent found anything yet. I guess I'm looking for a reason to upgrade. lol

>>56200687
GTA5 at the highest settings wont hit 60fps, it will be mid 40-50s though.

>>56200813
You dont have to it looks fucking great. But maybe cpu Idk

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getting closer to being "done"

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>>56200700
I guess my most interesting machine would be my T5120, unless you're into itanium. It's a blade(and I don't have a rack), and has an ultrasparc T2 running at around 1.1 GHZ, with 4 cores and 32 threads.

>>56185724
Is that case a Corsair 350D

>>56191686
I've got the same case. Did you replace the 200mm fan or are you still using it? Thinking about putting two 140mm poop fans up front to direct some more air toward the Nano I got in there, it gets a bit toasty.

>>56200972
I currently still have the stock 200mm, it's quiet and gets plenty of airflow in. Temps rarely go past the mid 40s.

>>56200659
It's the micro center version

>>56201381
So you didnt do it yourself? We all know you have to be in a fucking cheese.

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Guts in progress!

>>56200986
Alright, cool. Might have to liquid cool this Nano, it seems starved for air. I'm cooling the CPU with a Cryorig R1 so I might just get a Fury X or something and put the Nano in a smaller future build.

>>56202876
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-fc-r9-nano-acetal-nickel have fun

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>>56200898
what case

>>56199083
>things i can't afford are memes

Stop spreading bullshit and kill yourself

>>56203318
Corsair 350D

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A-Am I late to the party with my shitty first build?

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>>56185348
My nigga. I used to to have dual E5472s, those FB-DIMMs got to 237F

>>56204242
Holy fuck right? Actually burned my hand on one when i was replacing the sticks

>>56192449
Why'd you uhm me mitherfucker?
Not using the same tired old cases and boring water loops could be a bit confronting i guess :/

>>56204242
What is that black thing you're covering your motherboard with and why do you use it?

>>56205229
IIRC it's literally a piece of construction paper.

>>56204242
>those FB-DIMMs got to 237F
jesus. I knew FB-DIMMs were one of the few cases where memory actually does need a heatspreader, but I didnt think it was THAT bad.

>>56199316
No point in changing for a similar gpu, just go 1070 at this point

>>56202926
Thanks, I might do that later on down the line, but I'm not confident enough to do custom liquid cooling yet. Of course, I could I could use one of their Predator AIOs with the quick disconnects, but I want to use the air cooler I have, pretty decent temps with OC and I like how it is as large as the motherboard.

>>56185445

tfw my OCD won't let me use liquid coolers ever.

>>56205093
>Why'd you uhm me mitherfucker?
half your pc is outside your case

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Had a bad mobo which had to be replaced.

Only other thing missing is getting some non candy cane wires.

what do you guys think of the corsair 750d? Bought it for my new build and now I don't think i could ever go back to a case with non modular parts.

long time no post

>>56209470
its not bad
>>56191190

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>>56209477

and I forgot the pic

>>56209493
I haven't fucked around with mine too much; is the spot where the drive cage used to be able to support a fan? Thought it'd make a good spot for a 3rd intake

>>56209514
Yep, you can remove the HDD cage mounting point and there is a spot for a fan under. Though I dont believe it has a dust filter like the other fan intakes on this case.

>>56209556
That's pretty hot, loving the airflow on this fucker so far

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>>56191022
>>56190945
>>56190007
>>56187128
>>56199316
>>56200532

I admire every single one of you.

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>>56192449

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I'm ugly and I'm proud.

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>>56210838
>I'm ugly and I'm proud.

>>56209419
the GPU sag kinda ruins the good build, you should find a solution

>>56211036
Yeah, Not sure what to do with it

>>56211068
what card is that and what block is that? GPU.
planning on running water on my 1080 strix too, but
>muh warranty
never had a GPU die on my before tho, and my god knows how old 560 ti is still running. but this is my most expensive card yet too so, kinda worried because of the warranty.

>>56211193
1080 Strix

If your GPU works out of the box, it will only die if you fuck it up is what I have experienced.

I have never thought twice about water cooling all my stuff and this is probably my 10th+ build

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>>56209252
Migration is done now moit

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>>56212286
fuck me, what an annoyance.

>>56200942
Does that use 5300F memory? That stuff is dirt cheap now on ebay, jamming 128gb into that wouldn't break the bank, and would be hella cool

>>56204242
YOU AGAIN, AGAIN!
Fix the memory channels...

>twf still no (you)

>>56213706
Which is yours friend?

>>56213978
>>56198047

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>>56198047
Shouldve gone more with a blue build or another case. Pretty ok cable management. Not really something out of the ordinary. 7/10

>>56200641
Metro Redux

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I need a proper camera, my N5 makes it look so shit

>>56212352
Is the F specification fully buffered?

>>56200898
>>56212314
>>56212286
This is the Noctua D-14 right?
What r ur temps with this cooler? I might be able to "swap" one from one of the rendering computers in my uni. Wanna know if it's even worth the hassle

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I just bought a 1070, plus three SP120s for the front and one for the CPU cooler. I think next I'll try overclocking it and maybe get a water cooler.

I moved the stock H440 fans to the roof, but I think the fan closest to the front is sucking out cool air before it gets a chance to circulate?

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>>56217415

>>56217415
Is it worth the investment?

>>56217886

The hardware has returned it's cost for several months now, I got into Ethereum mining early on. I also have a bunch of S7 and S9 Bitcoin miners that generate about $1000/usd pure profit for me now as well but I colocate those at a mine that has cheap power on the west coast.


It really depends on you, I like messing with hardware so it is a win-win for me. Right now it's a bit risky since Ethereum is going POS (you cannot mine it) in the next year or two.

>>56218189

$1000usd/month ******

>>56218213
How do you mine (sorry new fag )

>>56201972
Nigga, wtf is wrong with your fittings? Why'd you put a 45 on the GPU? Looks wierd and ugly as fuck.
Just use hard tubing for fuck's sake.

>>56201972
Go hardline, if not, stop it with all those angle fittings.

Invest less in a PSU and more into cooling.

>>56218189
You are the reason AMD lost another 5% of market share this year.
I'm hope you are proud.

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late to the party /g//g//wp/

>>56215506
disclaimer: im an nh-d14 fanboy
It's definitely worth it over stock coolers, and there are arguments for and against it verse closed loops.

When i bought this the h100i was the closest equivalent so here we go:
Noctua:
>cheaper
>quieter
>not quite as good at cooling as a h100i but pretty close
>industrial look
h100i
>more expensive
>louder (the pump is louder and the stock fans arent as good)
>better at cooling
>sleek look

Verse a stock cooler it is 100% worth getting one though, i run the fans super slowly so my temps are skewed but from stress testing last night
25c-35c idle (the room heated up)
45-50c normal load
60c after 30 minutes of aida 64 and furmark.

However with my fan curves how they are, the fans dont turn on at all on idle, and at 100% load they are still quieter than an asus strix 970

>>56217415
>>56217471
How much did that frame cost? Would make an intereting base for a custom case

>>56217415
>>56217471
>GPU mining when the electricity costs more than the fucking bitcoin at this point
why?

>>56190074
How does that bench on 3DMark out of curiosity?

>>56218189
>in the next year or two
Where i can read about it?

>>56191686
all it will do is make the loop take longer to reach equilibrium

>>56200000
nice pents!

>>56200554
>How you make the bottom part yellow though, my shit? Or just want to buy a fucking cheese?

when you change what you were going to say mid sentence and you splurge everywhere

>>56200641
arma 3

>>56220941
is breddy guud. Only thing is my case is sff and pretty crammed already although a d15s would fit ( a d15 wouldn't)

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>>56192095
New picture.

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Simple and roomy. 6700k, gtx 1070, samsung ssd 950 pro, 32 ram. Corsair and gigabyte all the way.

Why do so many of you use AIO coolers?
They cost more than air coolers but perform almost on the same level.
They are nowhere close to a custom water loop.
The headroom for overclocking on them is not that fantastic.

I am curious.

Why not go air or go true water?

>>56224711
You're in a "look good" thread.

>>56224763
How does a AIO cooler look good?
>Plastic Tubing that looks like a ribbed condom
>120 Rads that stick out more than your moms dick
>"Water Blocks" with huge rice logos

If you want it to look good, real water or real air looks way better.

AIO is saying "I want to be cool and do water cooling but am either too broke or too stupid to do a proper loop"

>>56225107
I want a bit better performance than a Noctua NH-D15, but I don't want a HUGE chunk of aluminium and copper strapped on my motherboard.

I can spend $400-700 on a custom loop, or I could spend $30-40 more than the Noctua and get a 240-280mm AIO radiator.

Even if it only lasts 2-3 years, i'd gladly buy another one if it meant not having a huge ass heatsink and ugly poo fans in my build.


I'm sorry you're such an elitist your autism wont let you buy an AIO, but there is nothing wrong with them, and almost any 240-280mm radiator at this point with decent fans will outperform almost any air cooler on the market, sure the AIO will cost $30-50 more, but $30-50 more is an easy pill to swallow when compared to $300-500 more for a "real" water loop.


tldr, get over yourself, what you think isn't fact, it's opinion, other people have other opinion. If you dont get that, you're autistic.

>>56225217
Facts are that a water loop will stomp an AIO.
Fact is that 30% increase in cost does not yield a 30% in performance from air to a AIO.
Fact is that the 120 rad with fans is not any smaller than most air coolers.
Fact is that we cool in order to be able to OC.
Fact is that a AIO cooler will not let you OC any higher than most air coolers.
Fact is, it's shit.

Sorry, not autism, but I don't believe in doing it half assed.

>>56225248
Those might be facts for you, but not for me.

>Facts are that a water loop will stomp an AIO.
I already said this is true, and should be obvious considering the price difference
> Fact is that 30% increase in cost does not yield a 30% in performance from air to a AIO.
okay? We aren't paying performance here, half of what I was talking about was not having a HUGE chunk of aluminum and copper strapped to my motherboard, that's aesthetics, im not trying to beat an air cooler with my AIO....
>Fact is that the 120 rad with fans is not any smaller than most air coolers.
Who cares if it's smaller or larger? A radiator can be tucked out of the way, mounted on the top, front, bottom, etc. hell in some cases you can even mount the radiator externally, even with AIOs.
>Fact is that we cool in order to be able to OC.
who is this we? I didn't get an AIO to beat an air cooler OC. I bought an AIO to match a good air cooler OC while being out of the way and looking nicer.
>Fact is that a AIO cooler will not let you OC any higher than most air coolers.
I'm not really looking for it to do that, so okay? and a decent 280mm AIO will leave even the best air cooler behind by several degrees at load.
>Fact is, it's shit.
oh okay, more of your opinions...


Yeah, autism

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>>56225248
>Fact is that the 120 rad with fans is not any smaller than most air coolers.
Can you fit any top air cooler in this case?

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>>56225295
>>56225328
Or maybe this?

>>56225328
>>56225344
Obviously in those cases you're supposed to spend $500+ building an externally mounted custom water loop.

He doesn't like to half ass things, remember?

>>56224711
>>56225107
You shouldn't talk about what you don't know about.

The truth is modern AIOs stomp on air coolers with comparable price and better compatibility. You'll find it hard pressed, if not impossible, to find an air cooler that can dissipate the heat of an OC'd processor better than that of a basic CLC with less noise and using less room.

>pumps are loud!
No, they're not.

Not to mention a sleek radiator looks significantly better than a large, finned, chunk of aluminum hanging off the center of your motherboard.

See:
>>56185437
>>56190074
>>56190945
>>56191022
>>56191190
etc

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>>56225295
>I already said this is true, and should be obvious considering the price difference
You can buy some starter kits for 150-200, which is only a small increase over a AIO
>okay? We aren't paying performance here, half of what I was talking about was not having a HUGE chunk of aluminum and copper strapped to my motherboard, that's aesthetics, im not trying to beat an air cooler with my AIO....
Why are you using a big cooler at all if you don't care about performance?
>Who cares if it's smaller or larger? A radiator can be tucked out of the way, mounted on the top, front, bottom, etc. hell in some cases you can even mount the radiator externally, even with AIOs.
How exactly do you mount it externally? Most of the time the tubes are way too short to do anything more that back, top or front mount.
>who is this we? I didn't get an AIO to beat an air cooler OC. I bought an AIO to match a good air cooler OC while being out of the way and looking nicer
You just said
>I want a bit better performance than a Noctua NH-D15
Do you want performance or not?
>I'm not really looking for it to do that, so okay? and a decent 280mm AIO will leave even the best air cooler behind by several degrees at load.
You keep saying you don't care about performance but that yu do care about performance... which is it anon?


Also,
>>56225328
See pic

>>56225376
wat

NHD 14's are half the price of most AIO cooler, lel

Are you telling me that AIO's double stomp a NHD14?

Do you even know anything about any of this?

>>56225407
>You can buy some starter kits for 150-200, which is only a small increase over a AIO
Wait wait wait, I thought you didn't half ass things? But now you're telling me it's okay to go SUPER cheap on the custom loop? I have priced out what a good EK custom loop would cost me for my specific build, i'd be looking at a LOT closer to $700 to do it properly.

>Why are you using a big cooler at all if you don't care about performance?
I said I want the performance of a big air cooler without the big air cooler. I'm not looking for something to BEAT the air cooler though, you were implying i was trying to beat air coolers with my AIO, i'm not, I only want to match them.

>How exactly do you mount it externally? Most of the time the tubes are way too short to do anything more that back, top or front mount.
The EK predator AIO has hose fittings that can be removed, you can even add a GPU to the loop.

>Do you want performance or not?
I said I want a bit better performance, any 240-280mm AIO at this point will beat any Noctua, in idle performance, as well as load performance. I'm not looking for a 20C difference, just 2-5C.

Honestly you're just confirming more and more that you're autistic.

>>56225449
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/kits
Not half assed, still open loop which you can expand on, upgrade and customize later on.

Also, 700 for a starter loop?

Where are you getting these prices?

Whats your setup/pic of guts, let me show you the way.

>>56225440
Yes, I am.

>Do you even know anything about any of this?
Actually, I do. Do you?

>>56225440
>NHD 14's are half the price of most AIO cooler, lel
Wat

You can get 120mm AIOs all day for basically the same price (and even cheaper) than the NH-D14.

NH-D14 is $70
Corsair H55 is $75
Corsair H75 is $80
Enermax Liqmax II 240 is $83

etc.

Obviously the more expensive ~$120 units are going to be quieter and a thicker radiators. But the sub $100 units aren't exactly shit either.

>>56225517
Oh good, I can buy basically the cheapest custom loop possible from EK and get almost identical performance to my AIO which cost $60 less, even with the extra fans I bought for it.

>>56225517
>Whats your setup/pic of guts
>>56191190
X99 5820k at 4.5GHz daily.

To make it worthwhile i'd need to at LEAST spend $350-400 on a kit, and i'd probably need to spend another $50 on extra fittings and various pieces and parts not included in the kit.


Just doesn't seem like a sound investment for something I have no need for when the AIO I purchased when I built this thing has been running fine and keeping my temps under 72c at load.

Could a nice custom loop bring those temps down? Of course, but it would be spending literally double what i've already spent and the temps, while they would be cooler, wont actually do anything. It's not like i'm getting more performance out of it, my 5820k is already at a voltage wall, I don't want to put more than 1.3v on it and a custom water loop isn't going to get me anymore headroom there.


Just seems like money down the drain because you can't deal with the fact AIOs are so easy a retard can install it.

The difference between a custom loop and an aio/d15 will depend on the heat load. Under 125w you won't be looking at temperature differences, perhaps a lower noise on the custom loop because you have more surface area.

Once you go beyond 150w the temperature will remain the same on the custom loop but it'll begin to fail/overheat on the aio/d15.

That's all a custom loop does. It won't ever give you lower temperatures unless you're hitting the dissipation capacity of your current heatsink.

>>56225643
>Once you go beyond 150w
Guess my ~200w 5820k at 4.5GHz with an AIO must be failing huh?

Going on 6 months of almost 24/7 operation now and i've never seen temps over 75c.

>>56225683
My 5930k at 4.5 1.37v consumes 230w running prime95. Under a custom 720mm loop it hits 95c.

An aio will absolutely not be able to handle it because I know from first hand experience. I had a kraken 280mm on there before and it wouldn't even allow me to run the program without crashing.

Under normal loads it would perform admirably because the load wouldn't go beyond the 160w area. But not stress tests. No chance in hell.

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>>56225775
>1.37v
why do you need so much voltage?

My 5820k hits 4.5GHz with 1.28v

I only had to go over 1.3v to get stable benchmarks at 4.7GHz.

>>56225775
Also, I can tell you for a fact my 5820k sits at 4.5GHz all day doing encodes and never breaks 75c.

Maybe you had shit fans on your kraken?

>>56225837
>>56225853
Because my processor is actually avx2 stable. Gaming/encode stable doesn't require more than 1.25v.

And it doesn't matter what fans I had. I used the stock 140mm fans running at their max of 2500rpm. It was loud and pushed a shit ton of air.

>>56191022

How to know if the pump is working? I can't hear anything but can feel vibrating in the tubes.

>>56225952
>avx2 stable
Lol AVX2 has no uses, so what's your point?

Unless you're working on AVX2 all fucking day, and if you are I feel bad because you're just wasting your time, AVX2 really has no place, even CERN wrote it off.


The fact is my build is fully stable for what I use it for, has been for over 5 months now.

>>56217415
BTC Miner ?

>>56199654
1333mHz RAM
kek

>>56225975
My point is that my processor runs all programs like it does out of the box, but at my desired clock rate.

I sure as fuck wouldn't buy a processor that overheats and fails to run certain instructions.

>>56226392
Except mine doesn't... It runs at 100% load just fine, I run benchmarks, and stress tests besides P95 which is shown to potentially damage CPUs.

P95 hasn't been a decent stress test since the mid 2000s.

I have never had my computer bluescreen or shut down unexpectedly.

But hey, you apparently know more about my own computers stability than I do.

Maybe you just got dicked by the silicon lottery and I got lucky?

Trying to act like my CPU is somehow unstable when I have 20+ days of uptime is just silly.

>>56200641
stupid question. even well optimized stuff like witcher 3 will easily drop below 40fps in 1080p if you put all settings to the max. especially the fur/hait simulation is quite demanding.

>>56226428
I don't care about yours lol. Whatever insecurities my post made you feel about your own cpu is all on you. That's just the standard I set for my processor and I'm sorry if you feel intimidated by a strong independent stable cpu.

>>56224674
500r? That's what I have. I bet you put the hard drives in the top two slots because the bottom one is impossible to put the SATA stuff in, kek. Cabling looks about as good as it will get with that case. Airflow is ludicrous. 8/10 overall.

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>>56226690
>running over 1.3V 24/7
>stable CPU

kek

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>>56226690
>1.37v 24/7 operation
>strong independent stable cpu

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>>56217252
>1070
>4095MB
same thing here
just got my 1070 today and even updated speccy, nothing
why can't speccy show that it has 8GB?
GPU-Z shows 8GB

>>56227644
>even updated speccy
well speccy hasn't been updated since december, and that update was only for a windows 10 fuck up, nothing to do with hardware detection.

Speccy is shit and always has been. However it's the lightest and easiest thing to run to get an idea of the hardware you have.

Also, since the GTX 1070 and 1080 only come in 8GB versions anyone with sense will know it's just speccy being retarded.

>>56191230
0/10

>>56222033
If mommy and daddy pay the bill its profitable.

>>56222033

It's not for Bitcoins, it's for Ethereum.

>>56229158
>Ethereum
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

>>56210665
why did you put your pc in the roof, anon?

>>56226795
Thanks anon! Yes exactly, I wish I could lower the hard drive because it kind of renders that first fan useless. But stll great case.

you guys have any favorite cases? I'm building it around an atx motherboard and gtx 1080

>>56231834

Fractal Define S is nice, I have a Define R5 which I'm going to change for the Define S, looks a lot cleaner inside and you can put any HDD's on the back instead of having them awkwardly in the front like on the R5

>>56210665
Single digit denies.
Pls don't be that LoL guy. At least pretend to be trying.

>>56224674
> sag

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I know im really late. But here it is anyways going to be some changes coming this Friday.

>>56224630
>>56224640
>>56224503
What GPU is this?

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>>56233795
Gainward is the only GPU company I know that does heatsinks like that.

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Sold Gpu
Buying new one at the end of september
waiting.jpg
Upgrade monitor while waiting.
PB278Q 1440p arrives
Realise 2500k/P8Z68 only does 1080p on Igpu
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Im taking my XFX 260 Gtx black Ed out of the attic tonight.

>>56233887
>PB278Q
Nice I have two PB258Q
Great monitors
>Im taking my XFX 260 Gtx black Ed out of the attic tonight.
Make sure you have dual link DVI cables because single link is gonna max at 1920x1200.

Post more mini itx, any hadron air builds?

>>56233943
I've bough a Refurbished PB278Q Actually.
379$ CAD instead of 629$ CAD
Still , it surprisingly came with a VGA/DVI/HDMI kit!

>>56233987
>379$ CAD instead of 629$ CAD
Shit, is CAD that low right now?
PB278Q is only $380 brand new in the USA.

I got my TWO PB258Q for $550 total. I know they're already a little bit cheaper than the 27", but I can't imagine $630 for ONE O_O

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>>56233795
>>56233858
They're both R9 Fury. Sapphire I think.

>>56234085
Buying in CAD$ will always get you fucked up
Amazon got them on sale @ 525 insted of 575$
Newegg.ca got a refurb @ 449 instead of 629. But also have a Brand new @ 500$
i guess the 629 thing is to boost their "rebate"

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>>56185348
x5687 here. I'm having some stability problems. What motherboard are you using? Care to offer an anon some advice?

>>56188310
Is that an X8DTI-F? What heatsinks you using?

>>56233858
>>56234115
Thanks. Both brands look great cause I'm looking for a reversible GPU without looking like a retard.

>>56234115
Mine's an XFX Fury.

I'm playing the new Deus Ex in 1440p on Very High settings with 45 - 65 frames.

I admire every single of you, cable management is hard ..