Firefox replacement

Palememe

How the fuck do I change the site suggestions to go back to normal. It covers up the whole fucking window what the fuck is this shit

>>56172165
If you are running on GNU/Linux use Abrowser, it's a pretty well updated free and open fork without all the BS from the vanilla FF project.

>>56172165
There isn't one. Why do you think so many people still use it?

Mozilla might be trying to kill it faster than /pol/ gets triggered by something. But that doesn't mean it's still not the best browser out there.

It's a shame Brave is going with it's shady, "pay for ads" thing, and it's using Chromium as a base, because otherwise that sounds like it would be neat.
>owned and developed by one of the founders of Mozilla and FF
>overall they have an aim of privacy and even has a ex-Tor dev on their team with pretty strong principals working on their team
>open source

>>56172307
Isn't Iceweasel a DRM free version of Firefox?

>>56172165
>le daily firefox is shit now post

You ARE getting paid for this, right?

>>56172325
Yes, but it's still just Firefox. If you don't like Firefox why would you use Firefox?

Don't get me wrong, it's probably better since it has some of the Mozilla taken out of it. But most problems that plague Firefox is also in Iceweasel/IceCat.

Still works fine for me.
Is there some actual issue with FF now, or is /g/ just salty over the devs being faggot loving tumblrfucks?

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>>56172307
don't forget that it looks like complete garbage

>>56172401
That too.

When will a decent dev step up and make a nice browser?

I just want a Firefox - Hobbyist Edition rather than Firefox - Chrome Edition.

>>56172421
>I just want a Firefox - Hobbyist Edition rather than Firefox - Chrome Edition.
This.

So when's /g/ going to make a browser?

i have noticed when i have multiple tabbed videos open that firefox has been freezing up on me at times. it's so weird, it never used to do that. i'm on i5 2.8 ghz with 8 gb ram, not sure why this happens now. it seems to have started since the last update a week or two ago.

>>56172393
they keep breaking the layout just so they can be hip like chrome and you cant change it back in the user settings.

>>56172165
What are you talking about? Firefox still works great. Stop getting brain raped by google's marketing, you dumb fuck.

>>56172358
Whatever problems you're seeing on Firefox are probably 10 times worse on chrome, anyway.

Chrome surpassed FF long ago.

>>56173154
In terms of memory usage, yeah.

>>56173160
The Avast security team recommends Chrome among other things

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>>56173099
This. Firefox is fucking fine.

>tfw finding out faster and simpler addon replacements than what you used before
>tfw everything set up how you want
>tfw no crashes or bloat
>tfw neatly hardened prefs.js

Seamonkey with seatabx and seafox
uses less resources than pm

>>56172421
>>56172401
Install classic theme restorer and call it a day? My firefox never changed its looks to chrome.
That's the whole point of this browser - using addons to make it work the way you want it to.

>>56173193
>Firefox is fucking fine.
lol
Performance is ass
#1 priority should be integrating Servo
Otherwise Firefox dies

>>56173292
>performance is ass
It could certainly be improved but I have to call pebcak.

>>56172165
Honest question: what is the problem that people have with Firefox?
What do they mean when they say it's "slow"? Even on this old as fuck PC from 2007 it works OK. It's slow sometimes, but so are other browsers.
I can't imagine it being a problem on any modern PC.

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>>56172165
A successful developer actually told me to use Chrome instead of Firefox.. is he trying to con me?

>>56172233
but I'm already using a browser.

>>56173176
Their "ethical inflexibility" allows us to make progress in areas they won't even consider.

>>56173421
Where do they exhibit ethical inflexibility?

>>56173437
Our biochem corpus is far in advance of theirs, as is our electronic sentience.

>>56173447
Mr Robot, is that you?

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>>56173464
Old men... running the world. A new age!

>>56172165
>>56172165
Chrome is bob.
Keep calm and use chrome

>>56172165
Opera. Faster than chrome, builtin adblocker, doesn't push ads on you like chrome. Best chromium browser atm.

>>56173769
Sold to China

>>56173329
SJWs Browser

>>56172165
I use qutebrowser

The transition was rough and I'm still missing a lot of features, but the pros outweigh the cons for me right now.

Why hasn't /g/ ever made a good browser you yet? Even if using something as a base like FF from some years ago.

>>56173769
>Best chromium browser atm.

That would be Vivaldi.

>>56172165
Just use chrome you idiot

>>56174449
/g/ lacks the know-how to create a web browser. It's as simple as that.

And what would be the point of working on an outdated version of Firefox, duplicating work that already gave birth to the latest version of it? Face it, just use Firefox. It works.

>>56174537
Just give you ID and sperm to google right now

>>56174541
>/g/ lacks the know-how to create a web browser. It's as simple as that.
Manpower, not know-how.

Creating a browser is not difficult conceptually, it's just that creating a feature-complete, modern browser requires years of work by hundreds of programmers. I don't give a shit how talented you are, you aren't doing that on your own

>>56172165
I just went back to Firefox after using Chrome for 3 years because after the recent update it's finally at the point where I don't notice a difference

>>56174541
I already use it (actually waterfox because of native x64 meme or whatever), but some people shill on new FFs. Maybe just a riced FF with the ship it's lacking could be done with some effort, sure there are a lot of /g/uys here without work that want to help out with that.

Someone make a thread for that and a github too.

>>56172165
Google Chrome

>>56174372
Your point?

>>56172173
this is the only correct answer

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>>56174550
google doesnt care what you do because you are a nobody

>use firefox
>its slow af
>"huh, ff has multiprocess now"
>download ff dev edition
>enable e10s
>its even slower

thanks, sjws

>>56175016
>Firefox
>slow
Get a decent computer

>>56175076
Love this meme

Is my i5 4440 with 24GB Ram not good enough for firefox? should I download more RAM?

>>56175097
Ram doesn't make a computer faster, better CPUs and SSDs do.

>>56175118
does firefox need an i7 for me to browse well? should I upgrade my samsung 840?

>>56175131
Post specs and addons then, you won't.

>>56175076
I have two xeon E5-2670s, 32 GiB of DDR3-1600 , an SSD RAID0 as my / and a GTX 970

firefox is still unusably slow for me

>>56175076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-P68I41Yuw

chrome is objectively faster

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Just use Vimperator addon with firefox and hide the GUI.

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>>56175148
i5 4440
24GB RAM
Samsung 840 SSD 256GB
Addons: Greasemonkey, HTTPS Everywhere, Privacy Badger, ublock origin

Still get "Webpage is slowing firefox down" every time I open the catalog.

Your move

>>56172401
how you want your address bar senpai

>>56175097
My Celeron from 2007 and 4gb ram run Firefox just fine.
Install umatrix.

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>>56172165
just fucking use Chromium, it's the best browser and it's FOSS, if you care about privacy then remove some of the blobs, apply some patches and remove all Google integration, I did that and I have a non botnet Chromium browser, it's so fast

>>56172165


>got fed up with Firefox crashing
>switched to Chrome for one day
>fucking chrome crashed the same amount Firefox did

If these shit browser are all gonna crash, I'd rather just stick with Firecuck and have all my favorite extensions, than Chromebots and only have a few of my favorite extensions.

>>56175153
what the fuck do you mean it's slow?
slow how? give me an example of what you're doing.

>>56175097
>>56175153
RAM doesn't mean faster PC idiots. I have only 8GB and I still use HDD instead of SSD and it's just as fast as any browser I used. Stop with this "Firefox is slow" meme. It isn't slow unless you have an ancient computer, that is 2GB ddr2 RAM or less, on which you can't run anything than light browsers anyway, and a terrible CPU.

>>56175262
>switch tabs
sluggish
>use mouse gesture
sluggish, likes to lock up
>create new window
takes 5 seconds to be usable
>scroll
choppy

etc.

>>56175330
or when firecucks has shit JS performance because it relies on a JS engine from 2012

>>56175353
Oh, and my favorite is when firefox locks itself up while autoscrolling (becomes unresponsive to mouse movements) because it's stuck in some infinite loop of scroll -> redraw -> scroll.

It becomes response again as soon as it hits the end of the page (in the direction I was scrolling)

Problem goes away if I switch from gtk3 to gtk2 but it creates other problems

>>56175357
>people can't optimise their code and it's somehow the browser's fault
I bet you're one of those people who buy the latest meme graphics card too, just because developers are lazy and don't optimise anything thus relying on hardware to cover their incompetence.
Besides, I haven't noticed anything wrong with Firefox yet, it works on my machine ™

>>56175353
I literally have an old AMD CPU from 2007 and don't experience that to any significant degree.
It used to happen in the past somewhat, but not nearly enough to make me switch, I never had to wait 5 seconds for a new window.
They improved it in the last version or two, the UI seems a bit faster now.

If you're not exaggerating then I can only assume something is wrong with your install. Maybe some bloated extensions.
I use FireGestures, uBlock Origin and a few smaller extensions.

>>56175404
When devs dont optimize things and put out a shit browser that gets featurecreeped to the max, I uninstall their browser.

chromium is love, chromium is life

>>56175411
>They improved it in the last version or two, the UI seems a bit faster now.
The last version or two made the problem a million times worse on my end

firefox 48 was the last straw that broke the camel's back on my end, because it degraded performance even further compared to 47. Every version has been continually getting slower and slower on my end.

qutebrowser on the other hand is an entirely different performance model compared to firefox: qutebrowser is stupidly fast but slows down if the interface content is slow (because qtwebkit is a piece of shit), so if you have a lot of tabs open or are on an image heavy site it slows to a crawl

qtwebengine should hopefully solve that, though, which is why I'm actively contributing to qutebrowser to make it the browser of my dreams

>>56175452
Is this on Linux?

48 seems faster on Windows for me.

>>56175480
Yes, on gentoo hardened. I'm running firefox inside a sandbox (which disables hardware acceleration) and on a PAX kernel (which disables JIT compilation on 48+)

is GNU Icecat a good alternative?

>>56175490
If you have problems with qtwebkit try dwb?

>>56173421
I must admit that I had been somewhat disappointed in the performance of the primary unit

>>56173506
we've had to endure much you and I

Old men are the future

>>56172165
switched to vivaldi few days ago, feels good actually

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>People recommend and use chromium with a straight face
Downloaded it to see what all the fuss was about, and to see whether it was really faster than firefox

Got greeted with this. Seems to be slow as shit, e.g. the so-called “smooth scrolling” is ridiculously choppy. And apparently there's not even a setting to disable it

Uninstalled already, you google cucks can keep using your polished piece of shit

>>56172165

Idk, works fine for me, both on PC and phone.

>>56176129
AESTHETICS

>>56176129
Its just the Radeon experience saving resources for an extra 2 fps in BattleForge AAA DX12 edition.

>>56175353
This never happens to me and I'm on a laptop. It only happens when I'm on YouTube and playing games at the same time with other tabs auto updating. Have you changed prefs yet?

>>56176213
>Have you changed prefs yet?
No, fresh out of the box install (and I've literally never used it before). The only thing I *did* change to try and see if it helped was disabling smooth scrolling via

chrome://flags/

, which made it slightly better but still nowhere near as responsive as something like qutebrowser.

>This never happens to me and I'm on a laptop.
You probably don't have a 10-bit display

I need a Hacker :D Obviusly i'm gonna pay
It´s urgent

>>56176251
Weird brah. Glad I haven't updated to 48 then. Just using older version with a shit load of prefs changed from ghacks recommendations and use security addons. If it's too much of a hassle try an older more secure install? Also make sure to choose 64bit version it's snappier I think.

>laptop display not as intense
True but still never had that kind of issues unless I was streaming multiple thing like game+plus tube+chan updating multiple threads
Goodluck

>>56176129
Firefox is rated as the best browser for a reason.

>>56176363
Meh, firefox on my end is even shitter/slower than chromium - but at least it manages to render correctly (as usual, chromium sacrifices correctness for performance)

The best by far seems to be qutebrowser though, especially with qtwebengine

>>56176344
Please be bait, no single post could possibly contain this amount of retardation

>>56176344
ayyy

>>56175233
Do you have steps to achieve this?
How hard it is to keep it updated? I am guessing re-compile every time atleast?

Even better any chance you can host final build online somewhere?

>>56173447
What a shame.

>>56176494
>using the build made by some /g/enius
It's like you enjoy being hacked

>>56175206
Disable https everywhere and post results

>>56176588
loads a bit faster, but still sluggish compared to opera

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>>56173369

>>56176588
>Disable https everywhere
Is there a viable alternative that loads https automatically if its availableand not linked naturally?

>>56176407
>>56176407
That's not an argument ;^)

>>56172165
I use Opera. I heard somewhere that /g/ thinks it's shit but i like it fine.

>>56177450
Same here. Their only complaint is "Chinese botnet" apparently.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THE GOD DAMN SWITCH TO DISABLE THIS SHIT IN MOZCONFIG

I C E C A T

>>56176933
Https by default

Much faster and lightweight than https everywhere.

>>56174880
they will do to it what they did to maxthon make it into spyware

>>56175353
about:healthreport

The lastest FF is faster than chrome, and works better.. OP is just a troll

Nothing because it works

>>56179796
don't bother, I've spent several weeks on trying to get firefox to run faster, receiving the assistance of multiple people in various debug channels, etc.

I've done memory profiling, cpu profiling, played around with various features and compile flags, tried starting over from scratch with fresh profiles (which ironically made things even slower because it was missing all of my about:config performance tuning), tried dis-/enabling various caches and tuning them, etc.

I've already uninstalled firefox (about 2 weeks ago), and I don't plan on installing it again. So thanks for offering your assistance, but I've sunk enough time into the “make firefox great again” ship already. :/

>>56175490
well then no wonder it doesn't work properly.
that's quite an autistic setup.

>>56180253
Well, qutebrowser works fine so unless mozilla is going to get their shit together I'll continue using it

p.s. it's still slow as shit when I run it outside of the sandbox with jit and hwaccel enabled, just slightly less so

pps. try enabling full/ICCv4 color management, it will probably also cripple your performance

>>56178143
>Install it
>open mega link
>handshake failed
>into the bin it goes

Botnet Chrome

>>56172165
>What browser do you use and why?
Opera 12.16 because it's the last good browser

>>56180444
>mega

>>56180444
>doesn't know mega is a chinese honeypot now
Of course the handshake failed.

>>56180444
>>56181011
this is exactly why it will always be possible to trivially hijack HTTPS sessions: because users ignore TLS errors and just bypass it or use a different browser instead

Safari

>>56173193
>neatly hardened prefs.js
Is there a github project collecting all pref.js privacy settings?

>>56173267
Too bad they'll kill XPCOM soon. All new addons will be just as gimped as Chrome's.

>>56174408
Doesn't support uMatrix. It's shit.

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>>56182066
Lots you will find with a google search.

https://github.com/pyllyukko/user.js/

Also a good addon to easily change security/privacy settings on the go if something breaks:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/privacy-settings/

>>56172401
>yfw this is running on electron
>it is literally a web browser running inside a web browser

>>56176129
>implying he doesn't want LSD: The Browser

Safari master race reporting in

>>56182515
kek

>>56182549
What are you keking about?

>>56182646
Your post.

>>56182700
Safari really is the best web browser

>>56182729
Keep telling yourself that

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Literally just upgraded to Firefox 48.

...

WHAT IN THE EVERLOVING FUCK did they do to the suggestions in the URL bar?!? It stretches across the whole browser and looks goddamn hideous now!

>>56183120
the old url bar was probably sexist

>>56181044
no, SSL doesn't work because trusting a 1000 corporations not to fuck up is ridiculous
and no, that's probably not even exaggerated, that many corporations could sign new certificates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Wl2FW2TcA

Now what it in the boatyMcboat is this:
http://arstechnica.com/business/2016/08/mozilla-is-changing-its-lookand-asking-the-internet-for-feedback/

Get to work /g/ you know what to do.

>>56172165
Only newfags still defend Firefox. Most of you kids never even used Firefox 1.0

>>56183502
Still the best browser family even if Firefox itself isn't the best of them.

>>56183251
>HPKP
>DANE
>HTTPS Everywhere
yawn

>>56172165
I use tor since I'm an overly paranoid person. Also nothing is wrong with firefox and if you believe that, just get iceweasel.

>>56183502
>firefox 1.0
>not phoenix
kys newfag

>>56172165
Google chrome because its convenient

>>56172186
i think i have some css that does this? or maybe it's Classic Theme Restorer.

@namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul");
#PopupAutoCompleteRichResult richlistitem:first-of-type[actiontype="searchengine"],
#PopupAutoCompleteRichResult richlistitem[actiontype="visiturl"] { visibility:collapse !important; }
#PopupAutoCompleteRichResult .autocomplete-richlistbox {
height: auto !important;
max-height: calc(31px * 10) !important;
}

>>56183120
>upgraded to Firefox 48.
LOL

>>56172307
So just like uTorrent.

>>56182105
No they won't. Firefox will have additional APIs compared to Chrome.
But they'll be gimped compared to current extensions for sure.

>>56172350
There used to be a /Daily Firefox Shaming Thread/ to unite all this

>>56172307
>It's a shame Brave is going with it's shady, "pay for ads" thing, and it's using Chromium as a base, because otherwise that sounds like it would be neat.

This, I was gonna try it, but it just looks like yet another chrome reskin with some idiotic ideas. Besides, you can't really have a privacy-focused browser without being able to manage script execution and ads yourself. There's a reason why TOR browser comes with noscript and https everywhere by default. Brave has nothing besides the placebo "do not track" feature that doesn't work because by the time you're done browsing the net you already have 400 tracking cookies on your computer anyway.

May as well use Opera or Vivaldi if you don't want to use neither Chrome or Firefox... Brave literally has no reason to exist as it offers nothing new

Firefox is king of browsers because of about:config and plugins. No other browser can rival it in that respect. You can argue this all you want, but you know it's true.

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I tried out firefox sync a few years ago, only to find that it's primary functionality was duplicating bookmarks.

I decided to try it again today. I first tried logging in with my 3 usual passwords, but none of them worked. Fine, I must have deleted my firefox account. I create a new one, verify my account, and try to sign in.

"Attempt limit exceeded".

That's right - they're counting the login attempts from BEFORE I EVEN HAD AN ACCOUNT. No idea how long before I'm allowed to log in, googling suggests perhaps days, and that it's IP based.

gg mozilla

>>56172165
I switched to Chrome for awhile but goddamn it was shit so I had to go back to Firefox. :/ Edge blows, IE always blows, fuck it.

>>56172165
as >>56172307 said, there isn't one.
I just switched from chrome(after using it for few years) to opera and now to firefox ESR and I might aswell just stay here for a while. The addons are making me happy and I just don't care anymore, I got used to 4chan lagging like shit due to the 4chanx and that's pretty much the only performance issue I've ever had

This site is pretty nice http://www.logicalincrements.com/firefox/ , especially for the about:config tweaks

>>56174525
vivaldi is shit, get over it

>>56190104
>This site is pretty nice http://www.logicalincrements.com/firefox/
Thank you anon

>>56175016
>use 40 dev build
>enable e10s
>it crashes the browser
I wouldn't mind using it either, but I refuse to eat the shit mozilla want to stick into my mouth that was added in versions past 40 dev.

>>56176129
That looks fucking rad.

>>56172165
try Cent browser, its really nice overall

>>56172173
Light is another, even more slimmed down than Palemoon, fork of Firefox.

>>56188395
Why does God punish us so?

Maxthon is pretty good and fast.

>>56172165
SeaMonkey is basically Firefox without Australis. Its ok if you want an ugly, but much faster and responsive browser. The cookie manager is nice too.

If you're considering Chromium-based browsers, check Ungoogled Chromium.

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Literally none of them support latest firefox add-ons.

>>56191901
If Abrowser would support Greasemonkey I'd switch, but it doesn't. It does support Stylish though.

why the fuck is there no working scrobble extension for firefox? this is the only thing i miss from chrome

>>56172165
>Firefox is nothing more than a shadow of it's former self
Why is everyone on imageboards so dramatic? Firefox barely changed in the last 40 versions.

>>56194607
It's the source we're talking about. It's basically become chrome, which is why we don't use it anymore.

>>56194740
I don't know what you're talking about but I am pretty much 100% sure that you're exaggerating and being an annoying noisy faggot freetard.

>>56194607
>bundles botnet by default (pocket, DRM, “hello”, WebRTC, social media integration etc.)
>deprecating all semblance of compatibility with the addons that made it so popular in the first place (XUL/XPCOM removal -> WebExtensions copied from chrome)
>removal of choice and control from the user (settings get removed even from about:config, which was almost unheard of before)
>changelogs now written with “empowered grrrrrl” speech
>mozilla dumping all of its cash into women's outreach programs and SJW communities instead of improving the browser
yeah, no

>>56194831
In other words: Mozilla is trying desperately hard to make Firefox into a shittier version of Chrome, including all of the bullshit and lack of control/addons that make Chrome what it is.

>>56194831
>>bundles botnet by default (pocket, DRM, “hello”, WebRTC, social media integration etc.)
>>deprecating all semblance of compatibility with the addons that made it so popular in the first place (XUL/XPCOM removal -> WebExtensions copied from chrome)
>>removal of choice and control from the user (settings get removed even from about:config, which was almost unheard of before)
>>changelogs now written with “empowered grrrrrl” speech
>>mozilla dumping all of its cash into women's outreach programs and SJW communities instead of improving the browser
None of your points are complete and convincing.

First thing, stop calling everything you dislike "botnets". Actually elaborate on what those things you're listing are and what they do that you don't like. Otherwise, you're just pissing more piss into /g/'s ocean of piss.

Secondly, what good extensions are at stake here? I presume Mozilla is making that decision with some semblance of long-term planning but it's easier to be a drama queen about it.

What settings were removed and were they not replaced with any equivalent?

Finally, judging a software by its political implications is being a noisy, self-entitled little shithead /pol/tard. I don't want to hear your objections about it. They are not relevant to me or to anyone in the world.

>Women's outreach programs are bad
I'm sorry that some people are working towards helping victims of domestic violence while you're here on /g/ fighting the good fight complaining about a web browser having """"""SJW"""""" affiliations and not being customizable enough for your special snowflake needs.

I like Cyberfox.

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>>56195048
>working towards helping victims of domestic violence
None of what they do goes to help those and you know it.

>>56195143
No, I don't know that negative presumptions about charity organizations are true just because they work on causes that remind me of the bitter aftertaste of tumblr SJWs. But that's just because I keep ties with reality and I don't base all my political opinions on threads on /pol/ and /b/.

Speaking of which, go back to your containment board.

>>56195228
You completely defected. That's not what those outreach programs do, yet you claimed that. Why are you lying to strangers on the Internet?

>>56175076
last time i used firefox, a complete fresh install just with adblock active, startup is so fucking slow even on a SSD, chromium on the other hand instantly
dont know what they fucked up here, or the addon but it literally loaded all adblock lists into memory before start and even on a SSD took a few seconds

>>56173099
But he IS google marketing.

>>56188472
>Firefox is king of browsers because of about:config and plugins.
Right here, the truth!