FUCKING AMD MAKE MORE OF THEM REEEEEEEEEEEE

how about release the fucking 490 already so i can decide on whether to buy an nvidia or fucking an amd

>>56165925
480 nitro+ will be gud. 8 pin finally.

Whats their fucking problem

Should I do the 3GB GTX 1060 instead? so sick of waiting to build my rig

>>56166125
yes goyim

>>56166138

i don't get it

>>56166125
absolutely not. get the rx480 you idiot. More than twice the VRAM and better overall performance for less money. Are you retarded?

>>56166154
jews want you to get a 1060. It's a huge rip off. More expensive, less vRAM, less FP32 performance, overall vomit inducing DX12 performance, ect. You're literally paying more for less with the 1060.

>>56166159
>forced to wait 3 months to build a PC even though it's capitalism in le 2016 and there is no fucking excuse to not have this shit in stock already

god forbid I explore other avenues

i got mine

Keep an eye out for this:

http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/

The Rx 480 turned out to be extremely popular especially with butt coin miners. It wasn't a paper launch like so many people are memeing everywhere but simply that AMD underestimated the demand this GPU would produce.

We should be getting a larger stock at the end of august. But again keep an eye put for that website every day, these motherfuckers sell out like in a week.

>>56165820
Just installed my XFX RX 480 GTR, pretty great so far. Getting ~130fps in Doom on Ultra at 1080p.

Is the 8 gb worth it for the extra 40? sounding like it's not

>>56166323
the nitro went out of stock in seconds when i tried to get one.

ended up going with the same one this anon >>56166333 has even though it cost a bit more.

>>56166387
If you live in the US you can use jet.com to get a 15% off code on your purchase. Got my 8GB GTR for 260.

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>>56165820
i know the feeling op.

24 days and still hasn't shipped yet from amazon for my strix 480's.

on the plus side after bitching at amazon they gave me free one day shipping.

asus press release stated mid august.... well its been mid august this entire week and still nothing has been released.

wtf asus. all i wanted was my desktop to be up and running for legion.

>>56166468
why on earth would you buy a beefy 480 and not a mid range 1060?

So what's the best deal? Standard RX480 4GB without any extra shit or twin nitro 8GB shit for 280?

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>>56166381
Mod the bios

>>56166125
Build the rig now to save time. Run Intel graphics. Then when you get your hands on the GPU it will feel like sex to boot up a game.

>>56166485
the 1060 is a pile of vile jewish shit.

why the fuck would i want to waste money buying a gimped dx12 card like the 1060. the worst value if you care about keeping your card(s) for more than a year. its performance value ratio plummets drastically in dx12. none of its dx11 performance translates over at all.

>>56166458
too late for that, oh well, will have to miss a few chicken tendies meals i guess.

>>56166387
That's weird, here in Norway the GTR is cheaper than the Nitro, getting mine tomorrow

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>>56165820
Just get a 1060, it's much better anyway

>>56166528
Uhh the 1060 is only 1% slower in DX12 and ridiculously faster in everything else.

On average, a 1060 is 13.72% better than a 480.

On average, when using DX11, a 1060 is 15.25% better than a 480.

On average, when using DX12, a 1060 is 1.02% worse than a 480.

On average, when using Vulkan, a 1060 is 27.13% better than a 480.

>>56166159
The 1060 is much faster than the 480 and only $10 more.

>>56166116
literally mining cartels bulk buying before they hit stores

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its amazing how fast nvidia shills flood into any amd thread and quickly turn it into a amd sucks thread.

even the zen threads got filled with nvidia shills turning it into a nvidia vs amd thread and amd sucks.

can never have a general amd thread before it turns into a nvidia shitfest.

its really sad.

on a side note here's some nvidia funnies:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/nvidia-intel-xeon-phi-deep-learning-gpu

nvidia is going after the monster intel for doing the same stunts nvidia does. hsun Huang doesn't like the taste of his own medicine. even more hilarious is intel themselves state everything nvidia is bitching about in their fine print.

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>>56167511
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/08/16/correcting-some-mistakes/

lmao. they virtually have their own correct the record. wouldn't be surprise me if they go far enough and higher legitimate shills to shill boards like ocn.net and /g like CTR does with /pol and reddit.

oh butthurt nvidia. its glorious.

>>56166333
>XFX RX 480 GTR
The name sounds like a Nippon car

>>56166333
>1080p
>buying card with 8gb vram
lol

>>56166323
I really want one, but I'm not comfortable paying nearly $300 when we were promised it would be $200.

>>56167311
>much faster
seamlessly faster. On selected games. That's pretty much a tie.

and it's just stupid to a 3GB card when you can have a 8GB card for less money

stay cucked goy

>>56167596
the 8gb version is clocked 250mhz higher.

not that it will matter as HBM rolls out next year

>>56166159
The VRAM doesn't matter when the card is only as powerful as a 970.

>>56166125
>2016
>3GB of VRAM
Might aswell buy the 970, you get an extra 0.5GB

>>56167605
Wouldn't the 3gb cause your HDD/SSD's to wear out faster with the constant reloading?

>>56167694
bait

>>56167577
Ah yes, the Nissan Radeon RX 480

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>>56167816
>I'll just call it bait because it's true.
Fang-sue pls.

So if all you want to do is maxed out 1080p gaming, why are the 3/4 gig models bad?

How is the RX 480 able to outperform (according to this thread) the 1060? Everything I've read is ~10% performance increase for DX11 games across the board in favor of the 1060.

>>56167694
What the fuck

>>56167944
>So if all you want to do is maxed out 1080p gaming, why are the 3/4 gig models bad?
Modern games can exceed 4GB of vRAM on max 1080p settings.

>How is the RX 480 able to outperform (according to this thread) the 1060?
DX12

>Everything I've read is ~10% performance increase for DX11 games across the board in favor of the 1060.
True but DX11 is an ancient API made in 2008 that will be completely phased out soon. Nvidia cards can't into DX12 and are a horrible choice if you care about vydia coming out in the next few years.

Nvidia is especially a bad idea if you plan to play VR games for latency issues it has.

Anway:
You like to play old games: Nvidia
You want to play new games: AMD

>>56167694
Can confirm, bought a 1060 and after a couple hours of playing vidya my computer was up in flames

>>56167944
>1080p gaming

You're a fool if you think 1080p has static performance.

Real talk, I really wanted the nitro 480 but its sold out everywhere. What is my best alternative?

The XFX 480 is 299
The MSI 480 is 289
The Gigabyte 1060 GTX is 269
The Asus 1060 is 289

I will be ordering two this week, one for me to replace my 8800gts and one for my friends fresh build

Or is there something I didnt list?

>>56168897
You just could wait and build the computer without it and run off integrated until it gets in stock.

How much worse is a 470 in terms of performance? Only a couple FPS, yeah?

I don't have a 144hz monitor, so should I just go ahead and get the 470? Also can I mod the bios like the 480 to unlock 8gb?

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>>56167279
>>56167297
>>56167311


Add another game to the "It's better on AMD" list

>>56169076
>Do sex autism
>looks like shit
>shit reviews
no thanks, I'll pass

>>56167577
>>56167864
topkek

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>mfw The 7470M is better than all the current pascal cards

>>56166154
goy = non-jewish person

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>>56169255
hey guys fun thread don't mind me

>>56167684
>gpu memory
>a ranking factor
>ever

>>56169500
2GB of vRAM? What do you need 1GB of vRAM goy?

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>>56165820
Stop cry, get a 1060 and go away...

>>56169255
what did he mean by this?

>>56169522
Yeah goy, take one more GB, you need this. Better yet, you don't pay for it.

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>>56167605
1060 is way faster in all combined benchmarks, it's no contest.

>>56169691
It still doesn't make up for the dogshit DX12 performance. nvidiots are going to all be on suicide watch as more DX12 titles get released.

ITT: amd shills
0.58 cents deposited into your accounts

>>56169710
The 1060 is only 1% behind the 480 in DX12. 1%.

While in all games the 1060 is 13.72% faster.

>it's a poor people talking about mid-range GPUs episode

Aren't Reddit and Youtube enough for you?

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>>56169753
More like 15% behind lmao

Anyway more DX12 titles are coming out and the 1060 lacks full hardware async compute, it's pretty much guaranteed to suck ass. As AMD drivers get better we should be seeing better DX12 performance and more nvidiot tears.

>$199 card advertised
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137023
>$295 card

At this price, its just lower power 390.

>>56167596
Nightmare settings in Doom don't unlock unless you have more than 4gb of vram

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>mfw the gtx 1080 is just a rebtand of the HD 4760

>>56170514
Doom Vulkan version is by far the best "next gen" driver using game so far IMO.

If DX12 versions of things like DX:MD see anything remotely similar in gains, I might have to finally move to Win10.

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>>56171310
>using dx 12
>not dx 311

INVESTIGATE IT BILL CLINTON

>>56169792
Nope it's 1%

See: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q4VT3AzIBXSfKZdsJF94qvlJ7Mb1VvJvLowX6dmHWVo/edit#gid=0

Also the 1060 has full hardware async compute. That's why the 1060 easily beats the 480 in DX12 benchmarks like Time Spy.

Honestly the 480 is just really bad compared to the 1060.

bought an gtx 960 as a christmas gift for myself last year, should I upgrade my rig with a rx 480?

http://www.dimercom.mx/index.php?route=common/home

>>56166323
My friend mines butt coins and ordered 60 of them. He's a nobody so I can imagine how many are being purchased by larger mining operations.

They aren't coming back in stock.

>>56166125
If you live in the uk the 1060 6gb is a no brainer. It's like 50 quid cheaper than the cheapest 480 8gb aib in stock. Don't know about the 3gb 1060 or 4gb 480 though. I haven't seen any 4gb 480s in stock since release.

>>56167297
Holy shit, do you believe these numbers yourself?

>>56172174
They're real, directly from here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q4VT3AzIBXSfKZdsJF94qvlJ7Mb1VvJvLowX6dmHWVo/edit#gid=0

Guy compiled all the reviews of the 1060 and 480 together.

>>56171894
would be paying for a very incremental increase, consider a 970

>>56171894
Get a 1070 or 1060

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>>56166125

MSI Gaming X RX 480 for £257.99 at Ebuyer.com in stock.

>>56172183
I dont care about dx11 and old games. The rx480 can run dx11 games just fine. What I do care about are future releases. Rx 480 does better with modern apis. Every dx12 or vulkan review I see puts the rx480 above 1060. Also I dont want my card to get shit after the first year. If I buy a card I will use it for 3 years.

>>56166186
Dx12...by the time thats fully functional and most game makers are using it the 480 will be a door stop... ah hang on yeah it already is one

>>56165820
Look nobody cares about your fucking rant over who's better and cheaper, Nvidia can go suck a cock for all I care. Now fagboy shut the fuck up and get the fuck out. because Nvidia Sucks!

The OP is a fucking faggot

>>56168084
>You like to play old games: Nvidia
>You want to play new games: AMD
Is it really this simple?

Is there any reason to buy 8 GB RX 480 over the 4 GB one?

>>56174137
4gb 480s don't even exist, it was just marketing. get the rx 470 if you want the 4gb card.

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>>56165820
>bought rx 480 nitro on 4th
>was shipped on 11th due to no stock, arrived on 15th
>played all games on +60fps on 1080p for 3 days
>died. no fan activity, no sapphire logo
>tried different psu and mobo
>RMA it and send it back to Germany
>six more days to ship to there
>no idea how long will it take to get a new one back

And my OC'd sapphire radeon 5000 series lasted this far without any problems.

Hold me /g/

>>56172849
Most people don't buy the latest graphics card every year. Nvidia is for people who do that, AMD is for people who want to buy one and then use it for like 5 years.

>>56167673
In fairness, the 970 is a pretty powerful card and still very expensive for its age.

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>>56166125
The 3GB 1060 is gimped. There's more missing than 3GB of VRAM. It should be called 1050Ti. Just more shady advertising by nvidia. Get an RX470/480.

>>56165820
>150W
No thanks.

Shilling aside, what's the verdict on the RX 470/480. Which one is the best bang for the buck and 4GB or 8 GB for 2560x1440 ?

>>56174687
a 480 in 5 years, you will be playing the same stuff you are now then.

>>56165820
Newegg had the MSI 8gb in stock this morning, just sniped one

>>56174858
Or you simply don't play the games in 5 years on everything maxed but instead on medium? People do that a lot, not everyone has 500 bucks a year of disposable income for graphics cards.

Also AMD cards consistently improved their performance with drivers over the years, compared to launch. If the RX 480 can handle 1080p on max settings at 60 fps now, it will still be able to do so for the next year at least, and even then it will work good on high settings the following years after that.

>>56169500
>buy 2GB card
>play recent games with it
>hit the 2GB mark
>everything slows down and your fps go to shit
yeah why care about the memeory u'r all just tech illiterates :^^^^^^^^^^^)

>>56174107
Not really. The fact is nobody really knows. You pays your money and takes your chances. For all we know the 1060 may be the better buy in the course of a year or two. Or it might not. Flip a fucking coin. In reality it's as good a guess as most can give.

>>56170514
That's for good reason. 2gig cards are running into vram issues two notches lower on high.

>>56167694
In case you are not trolling but simply dumb, reading does not cause wear on SSDs

>>56172248
The Gtx 970 is actually more expensive than an rx 480 in the the page link I provided

Gtx has an average cost of $350 USD and the saphire rx 480 a cost of $300 USD

in other plataforms (such as Amazon for example) both costs basically the same, the Gtx 970 being a little less expensive, but being imported products their price could get even higher

>>56172251
Gtx 1060 costs as much as a Gtx 970 and as stated above, I found a cheaper rx 480.

at $600 a Gtx 1070 is way out of my budget

keep in mind that I live in a banana country so for you every dollar means 17-19 in my currency

Waiting for it to lower its price could be a double edged sword since currency rate could skyrocket anytime

>>56174858
I still play games that came out over 10 years ago. I'll play stuff over 20 on occasion. Nintendo has built a good part of their business around the fact that people are willing to re-buy old nes and snes games for whatever new platform.

Video games aren't all about the flashiest graphics. a good game doesn't stop being good at low details or by being a few years old.

While it is nice to run everything turned all the way up it is a waste of money to constantly chase that. The best strategy is to get a good price/perf card then replace it with another when it no longer is able to run new titles.

I'm running a 4 year old midrange card (7870) and it is just nearing replacement time. Likewise a 660ti is still good enough at 1080 for a little while longer.

>>56174219
i have a 4gb 480
its great, dunno why reviews say its loud or hot since it breezes 1080p and never goes above 65c
fans dont even turn on till 50c

more interested in HBM2 @ 4k high end but this will cover the gap.

>>56165820
>FUCKING AMD MAKE THE 490 REEEEEEEEEEEE

FTFY

>>56169792
You do know that even when running Hitman in DX11, the 480 is still faster than 1060?

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>>56174816
Keep dreaming. Add at least 15W when going aftermarket.

>>56169764
its just /v/ spill over

they are just restless since absolutely no games are coming out till winter

Sounds like the Sapphire Nitro kind of fizzled. Hot and noisy. Kind of a pity, I've always had good luck with Sapphire's Vapor-X cards.

Strix seems to be coming up as a popular option without being as hot or loud. That leaves me to be concerned about how much of the card it's actually cooling though. There have been issues in the past with AMD cards where the VRMs were without cooling and steadily bake until the card starts to malfunction.

Then there's the power draw. These aftermarket cards are using 8-pin like AMD should have, but is the power distribution on them also corrected? Would be kind of fruitless if the power draw hadn't been shifted onto that beefy 8-pin after adding it.

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>>56169214

>>56165820
Do any of these consumer GPUs have decent FP64 performance?

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>>56176319

No. You need to go way back for decent FP64 on gaming cards from both AMD and Nvidia.

>>56176331
How way back? I have a 5850, would that give me better FP64 than a GTX960? I can't seem to find any published specs on this, but Google has been failing me lately.

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>>56176307
>In DX11 NVIDIA has automatic async

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>>56176349

Realistically to kepler for Nvidia and either tahiti or hawaii for AMD.

>>56176349
Well I found some numbers and did the calculations, the GTX960 will do 72 GFLOPs for FP64 while an HD5850 will do 417. Pathetic.

>>56176331
why don't games benchmark 290 and 290x? surely those are still fairly popular

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>>56176699

For the most part because their 300 counterparts have replaced them. Its all the same silicon anyway.

>>56176721
>For the most part because their 300 counterparts have replaced them. Its all the same silicon anyway.
yeah but even looking at your benchmark, a 390 is a solid 10% faster

480s are all sold out here and I had the extra couple hundred so i sprung for a 1070 instead

>>56166125
A lot of older cars are suffering from having less than 4 gigs if vram. I don't care what brand you buy but st last get 4 gigs. And no the 970 is not a good choice, it only gets worse add time goes on.

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>>56177011

Thats because the 390 runs at the same core clocks as a 290x ( a 53mhz bump over reference 290) as well as running is vram 250mhz faster. If you run both at identical clocks performance is basically the same until you run into a vram limtied scenario on the 200 versions (side note: 8gb 290x's do exist).

>>56175486
>Gtx 1060 costs as much as a Gtx 970

You do realize a 1060 is even faster than a 980

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>>56172442
The 1060 is much better than the 480 at Vulkan, pic related.

>>56172442
>The rx480 can run dx11 games just fine

Uhh the 1060 is 15% faster than the 480 at DX11

480 really sucks at DX11

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Got my 2 480s right here senpai

>>56177238

Croteam flatout stated their implementation of vulkan for the talos principle is just a wrapper as a proof of concept. Its still slower than the other renderers.

>>56177250
Its not as simple as flat out 15%, it is game dependant.

if you are looking at gaymenworkds games, then yea, sure.

other than that, it's not that easy to see any significant difference.

>>56176699
GameGPU does

>>56175287
>For all we know the 1060 may be the better buy in the course of a year or two
No, dummy. Look at NVIDIA's track record then look at AMD's: you'll see the trends that'll continue this gen, especially considering DX12.

>>56174107
Yes

>>56174137
If 1440p get an 8GB just for certainty

>>56172248
Wrong, so wrong fagboi

>>56171894
I'd keep the 960 unless you really need to upgrade. Turn down a few settings and you'll probably get all the performance you need.

>>56168897
470 or 3GB 1060

>>56168123
It's tied to console performance

>>56167297
>On average, when using DX12, a 1060 is 1.02% worse than a 480.
>On average, when using Vulkan, a 1060 is 27.13% better than a 480.
These statistics are skewed by the fact that there are only a few games using these APIs, and some of them like Talos (Vulkan) and RotTR (DX12) are really more like DX11 games or half finished ports. If you look at games designed from the ground up for a new API (Total War: Warhammer, Ashes, Hitman), you'll get a much better idea of average performance. Hint: it's not good for any 900 series NVIDIA card. 1000 series performs better but not good against AMD's 200, 300, and 400 series cards.

>>56177306
15% is overall in all DX11 games benchmarked.

480 is just a really awful slow card.

>>56177250
>480 really sucks at DX11
No it doesn't. It has great performance, retard. Not as good as the 1060 in DX11, but still it's still a high tier card.

>>56177301
>>56177306
Correct

>>56177265
Your a fucking somali

>>56177383
STFU idiot. Do you even know how to calculate 15% of 40FPS? Hint: it's unnoticeable while actually playing.

>>56177383
>>>/v/

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>>56175990

>>56176214
My MSI Gaming X RX 480 8GB is sitting at the Yodel depot right now. Fuck that shitty delivery company!

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>>56177238
>wow! such shilling.
must try harder fampai

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>>56177570
>calculated TDP

Meme coin miners have scripts setup to purchase the cards immediately after they go in stock. After the third time I put the card into my cart and it went out of stock when I went to checkout, I gave up and bought a GTX 1060.

>>56165820
Are they still selling 8GB as 4GB cards?

>>56177908
TDP isn't power consumption you retarded mongoloid.

>>56177265
>your

>>56178798
>DX12

There are people on this board that buy AMD cards and run Windows 10. Disgusting.

>>56178843
There are people on this board that buy Nvidia and run DX11. Goyed

480 is far more futureproof than 1060 due to better VLK/DX12 performance and 8 GB of VRAM.
On top of it AMD cards seem to perform better in the long run. Perhaps it has something to do with Nvidia gimping their own cards when they release new models.

However, GTX1070 > 2x RX480. Never fall for the multigpu meme.