Mini-ITX LGA 1155

>Prodigy
>small case

>>56159647
It's large for a mini-itx, but i need a small mobo. It would be much easier to find a z77 ATX than a z77 mini-itx.

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1155 is too old to expect to find on Newegg, but look for a P8Z77I DELUXE

You won't find anything new. Good luck finding anything second hand, a buddy bought my old Prodigy and board off me and proceeded to rip the PCIE socket off the board and ended up just moving to ATX and a newer socket.

>>56159996
I saw those, but they're so expensive. I was hoping for something cheaper, but if I have to, I guess I'll get that one.

>>56159602

Looks like a big-ass case with inefficient lay out.

>>56160292
It's actually incredibly efficient at cooling. There are hard drive bays in the side and bottom. That bottom case is for the PSU. And it's just long enough to fit my gtx 1070. All temps max in the mid 60s with stock air coolers and additional case fans.

>>56160505
Actually, I do have an 3rd party GPU shroud. I have the 1070 G1 Gaming form Gigabtye. The GPU is overclocked quite a bit.

>>56160145
It's the best 1155 board
But if you want cheaper you just need something with a z77 chipset, look through manufacturers legacy hardware lists.

>>56160700
Finding a place to buy new is the biggest issue, but thanks. I'll try that.

I was in the same boat as you, OP. But I just caved and got a Skylake because the upgrade would be easier than finding a ITX 1155 socket board. Trying to sell my old rig to cover the cost now.

>>56161117
I just updated everything including the case. I just wanted a slightly better motherboard since mine is so lacking.

>>56160505

True. I thought inefficient space wise but cooling is often shit with the smallest of cases.

>>56159602
>I have a small case (pic related)
lmao anon
that thing is large for matx let alone mitx

NCase M1 desu senpai

Don't be poor

>Bought Ivy 3570k with TIM'd IHS instead of Sandy 2500k or 2600k with soldered IHS
>Did not buy good motherboard when the chipset was in production
To the second point, this is why you should never look at the cheapest mobo you can find when putting setup together.

>>56161761
I'd rather give my GPU a little room to breath. It's the Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1070, so it blows the air it takes in all along the bottom out the sides. That case would suffocate and kill it. Maybe it would be alright if I was some pleb who used reference cards.

>>56161804
The only old part of my setup is the CPU. I didn't want to have to buy a new one because this one still runs fine and I was broke at the time. Power supply killed my Mobo though, and the case was shit, so I swapped over to mini-itx because it's convenient.

>>56161804
Also, I just stuck with the only mobo available on Newegg at the time for my socket and form factor. It just happened to be cheap.

>>56161924
>Power supply killed my Mobo though
If this the case, you bought a PSU without overpower or overvoltage protection. Do not do that. What is your current PSU?
And by the way, there is no good p67/z68/z77 itx mobo. There is few good matx boards though.

>>56161847
There's plenty of people with hotter gpus with blower coolers doing fine in the ncase
If you're worried about it put fans under the gpu

>>56161999
>implying the P8Z77I deluxe isn't good

>>56162039
Yup, VRM has enought phases, but the components are shit (beyond me why they didnt use the exact same doublers as on the atx deluxe). Its (vrm mosfets) cleverly arranged though.

>>56161758
I like the RVZ 02 better, but the Prodigy
has better cooling options.
>>56161999
I'm using a cheap 80+ EVGA unit that I used as a placeholder because the one I had before was unbranded and came with my case. I'm buying a better one soon.
>>56162039
I already bought the case, and I have no reason to get anything smaller. Besides, I've seen that one in person and it's pretty ugly. Mine has good airflow, decent aesthetics, and it's easy enough to open up and swap parts in when I have to clean or change something out. But that doesn't matter because I already bought the case and have absolutely no reason to swap it for a smaller one.
>>56162153
Could you explain how the components are shit? I don't know what doublers are. I have a DAC, so I don't care about integrated audio, and the overclocking is there, so what else should I look for?

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Post QT motherboards

>>56162272
>I like the RVZ 02 better, but the Prodigy
> has better cooling options.
They're not even in the same class.

>>56162305
They're both mini-ITX. What do you mean by class?

>>56162331
The prodigy is literally three times the size.

>>56162288
Cute AF. I want it now.

>>56162341
And? It also holds a ton more. It can hold 2 HHDs, 2SSDs, a full sized PSU, a full sized GPU, a hyper 212 Evo, and 5 120mm case fans at the same time. Same temps you would get in a full tower or a mid tower in a mini-itx with about the same space. It's just a little smaller so it's easier to move around. Still mini-itx because all of that wouldn't fit with an atx board in there.

>>56162331
Silverstone is ~12L
Bitfenix is ~30L

>>56162431
That doesn't change that they're both mini-itx.

>>56162426
>>56162500

There is literally a version of the prodigy that holds a mATX motherboard you fucking retard. The thing is oversized as fuck. I'm pretty goddamn sure the ncase m1 can hold all those things as well.
The prodigy being mini-itx is a downside.

>>56162510
The MATX version is shit because you can't fit much else into it. The MITX version is one of the best MITX cases if you want the best cooling. It's big for a reason.

>>56162634
>It's big for a reason.
Yea, Bitfenix engineers can't into design.

>>56162500
Different class of itx
One is a huge fuckoff cube for normies, the other actually takes advantage of being itx.
Sell the prodigy and get a TJ08-E, you'll get good cooling and compatibility + mATX, all while being marginally smaller than the prodigy.

>>56162683
They designed it around options, the main two being either a shit load of storage or really good cooling.

Your tiny little Ncase is designed around one thing, being tiny. If that really matters to you that much then cool, you probably made a good choice. There are however other people that have different needs to you, just like how there are even smaller computers than yours but that don't fit your needs.

>>56162776
Exactly. I went for cooling over being tiny. I've never seen better airflow in any case. It's absolutely fantastic. I don't care if it's a little large for a mITX case because I have a fairly large desk. Getting that across to people seems to be more difficult than it should be though. They don't understand that smaller != better.

>>56162818
>>56162776
Then stop calling it a mini-itx case like it's small. It being mini-itx is a downside since it can clearly fit bigger motherboards. Hell it can fit ATX if you really tried.

>>56162684
>TJ08-E
Literally one 120mm fan for exhaust. No thanks. I like my parts not to heat up my case too much.

>>56162845
Okay. Let me explain this too real reeeealll slow. No other size motherboard will fit in the case I have unless I modify it. I'd have to remove half the internal structure and and add a plate to the back of the case as well as completely restructure the back to move the io slot and pcie slot. As it is, the motherboard fits sideways in the case with the cpu facing the top. If I added a larger motherboard, it wouldn't fit because the side of the case is in the way. The case you're thinking of is the ProdigyM. I have the Prodigy.

>>56162845
>Then stop calling it a mini-itx case like it's small
It's being called an MITX case because it's an MITX case. That term specifically refers to a motherboard which can only fit an MITX motherboard, and the Prodigy fits that criteria.

>It being mini-itx is a downside since it can clearly fit bigger motherboards. Hell it can fit ATX if you really tried.
I will agree that MITX has its disadvantages, that's why I ended up going back to ATX. However for some people those disadvantages don't apply. Yes you can fit an ATX board in the Prodigy (by that I mean within the physical volume of the case) but by doing that, or even getting the MATX version, you give up space that could otherwise be used for cooling or storage.

There are cases out there that are even smaller than the Ncase that you can literally only fit a MITX motherboard, a drive, and a tiny PSU in. Does that make them better than the Ncase? If you need the absolute smallest then yes, and as that seems to be what you're after I have to ask why the fuck do YOU have such a massive case?

>>56162776
The Ncase was designed with options in mind.
You can fit 2x 240mm rads in it if you really want to.
The A4-sfx that I'm moving into from the Ncase /was/ designed purely around bring small though.

>>56162947
>>56162935
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People refer to mini-itx as being small, not the motherboard form factor. Even OP claimed "I have a small case(pic related)" like the fucking retard he is.
All cases that support fucking ATX while being just as big or smaller as the Prodigy. It's a terrible case. Now fuck off.

>>56163002

Here you go. Read >>56159672
It's way up at the very top, so I'm amazed you missed it. I said it's large for a mini-ITX but still requires a small motherboard. I assure you, I'm not retarded. You just missed part of what I said. It's an easy misunderstanding.

>>56162989
It is smaller, and it does support radiators, but I'm not swapping over to liquid cooling, and air cooling in that case is not as good. Liquid cooling is nice, but I like to semi-regularly open up my case and swap parts out or dust it off. Air cooling is great for that, and I have no reason to swap to liquid cooling anyways. I'm fine with my temps maxing in the lower-mid 60s. The case I have is fine. I don't need it to be smaller either. You've offered no compelling argument for me to take that one over the Prodigy. Especially since I'd have to buy a new power supply.

>>56162989
>You can fit 2x 240mm rads in it if you really want to.
Are we talking about the same case? The Ncase M1 can fit a single 240mm rad and doing so limits you to an SFX PSU and a max rad thickness of 60mm. Also you'll only be able to have three 2.5" drives and one 3.5". The Prodigy can fit a much thicker 240mm rad as well as two 3.5 drives and four 2.5" drives, and if you get rid of the 3.5" drives you can put in another 240mm rad with enough room left over for a separate res.

>>56163002
>People refer to mini-itx as being small, not the motherboard form factor.
I haven't heard people use the term in that manner and any that do are idiots. MITX is a motherboard form factor and any case that uses that form factor is thus an MITX case. I have a question for you, is an MATX case that's smaller than the Prodigy an MITX case? It must be right, because it's small? But then Pico-ITX cases are even smaller, so perhaps we should call those MITX.

>>56163160
You're second argument is on point. Form factor is determined by which motherboard fits in them, not by how many liters they can hold. It really isn't hard to grasp, but maybe it's above that guy's comprehension.

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>>56159602
>tfw sold a rig with I5 3570K with ASUS Z77-I DELUXE and 8GB RAM for $200 to my cousin.

>>56163258
Holy crap. I would have paid that much just for the motherboard if it was in good condition.

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>>56163276
It was mint condition.
Tried to look for images of it.

What was in it:

BitFenix Prodigy
Corsair HX650W
2x Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP-15
Corsair H100 (non-i)
ASUS Z77-I DELUXE
Corsair Vengeance LP White 2x4GB 1.35v
Intel i5 3570K
BeQuiet sound dampening all around the case so it was dead silent.
I also had it on a table and my apartment doesn't have much dust so it was also clean on the inside.

Only image I have on it.

No GPU though, but it was still faster than the AMD 7800K PC he had before buying mine for cheap.

>>56163633
What did you use it for? You have all of that cooling and no GPU? Did you just want a quiet computer for browsing or what?

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>>56163754
Nah, I kept the GPU myself, bought a new rig and was gonna use the i5 ITX as a media PC but I never got around to do it properly and in the end just put it on the shelf and connected a 30' to it. Heard my cousins PC kept lagging and crashing (playing at 15-30FPS on lowest graphics) etc so I called and asked if he wanted it for cheap.

Found another image of it on the phone.

>>56163844
You're a good person, anon. Don't let anyone else tell you different.

id love to go m-atx or itx or whatever.. but..

4 3.5" hdd's and 2 ssds disallow me from doing so, specially with decent/good cooling at low noise ratios..

>>56164008
That's one of the joy's of the Bitfenix Prodigy. It can easily fit all of that and more and it still has fantastic cooling. That's why I keep telling these people higher in the thread it's a decent case. It may be a little larger, but it has fantastic storage and cooling for a mITX.

>>56164008
>4 3.5" hdd's
NAS.

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>>56163941
Thanks.

Building PCs is a hobby, and a PC that isn't used is better off sold even for less than it's worth.

Pic related is my main rig that I rarely use for more than storing stuff nowadays so you could call it an over-prized/performing file server.

>>56164143
Personally, I don't like using full towers. I do like looking at them however, and that is a beautiful tower. Where's the reservoir though?

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>>56164198
It's a XSPC res so it's where the top 5.25 bays are.

There's a RX480 and a RX360 rad, the 360 you see at the top.

>>56164273
I stick strictly to air cooling, so I had to look those up, but damn. That's really fucking discrete. Is there any reason you went with an all black color scheme?

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>>56164511
Well the case is black, and I made it for cooling, not for attention so black silicone tubes and black EK blocks was the most square and black I could find.
I would've gone XSPC on the two GTX670s but the LED frame was too plastic looking on the side.
I could live with the CPU block though.
Those 670s use a 680 PCB so it was no problem installing them.
But I need to replace some drives since I'm already using all slots in it.

>>56164081
none of them are suitable for a NAS.

theyre not even the same brand for shits sake.

>>56164574
Ah. That makes sense. Personally, I prefer a black case with either white or blue accents throughout. It's not too flashy, but it looks a little nicer. LEDs, however, I'm not really a fan of. They're alright in a case without a window because they just glow through the fan slots, but when there is a window they usually look like "1337 gamer" shit.
Anyways, it looks like you have a little blue in there, but a little more wouldn't hurt. How it is now, though, does look really professional.

>>56164631
None of that matters.

>>56164758
how so

a nas is gonna be on 24/7

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>>56164662
I have it on the floor and I also kinda was let down that there wasn't a non-window version ready when I bought it.
Yeah there's some white and blue, I didn't color code at all, I went with the white since they had very low voltage for DDR3 and that board because it had good OC capability (OC'd the i7 2700K in it to 5.098.81MHz)

It's the same today.
Since I have the tinted window and also a black glass table, I don't see the case and it's light and from the sofa, I sit in I don't see the blue either, only the dim white power/hdd hybrid led

>>56164868
I think a tinted window with LEDs is nice. It gives the glow aesthetic I mentioned before. I was talking about clear windows. Again, really nice build. Mine can probably outpower it in games, but it doesn't look nearly as nice and doesn't have nearly the processing power. All you'd have to do is swap out the 670s whenever you need to, which may be hard. I stay away from liquid cooling, so I wouldn't know.
Still a beautiful build. Have you brought it to any competitions?

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>>56164966
>Mine can probably outpower it in games.
I'm certain it will since 670 in SLi isn't that fast when comparing to even the GTX 970.

>competition
Nope.
Just a personal built for personal use so I never saw it as something that was competition worthy.

>I stay away from liquid cooling, so I wouldn't know.
Good, it's crazy expensive.
When I hear people saying $1000 PCs are expensive I tell them that the cooling alone cost me $1300 with fittings, tubing and such. :(

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>>56163156
Just for the record I wasn't the guy shitting on you for the prodigy/ trying to get you to get the Ncase.
Those are fine reasons, and I agree, Air cooling is the best shit.
Depending on your GPU and PSU you wouldn't have to change the PSU, though most likely you would have to change it.
>>56163160
Yes.
If you're watercooling the GPU and use slim fans and a slim radiator you can fit one under the GPU as well as on the side panel.
Being limited to an SFX/L PSU isn't that limiting anymore, there's a 700W 80+ platinum model out, and most people wouldn't even need more than 500W in an ITX build.
Not going to argue the reset, because you're right on those, the prodigy does fit more bigger parts than the ncase.

>>56159602
Wait for Kaby Lake, sell everything and start a new build.

>>56165213
Thanks for cooling down. If I was going with liquid cooling and doing a whole new build, that case would do it for me. However, I like to keep things modular.
I have a full sized ATX PSU and a Gigabyte G1 Gaming 1070. Probably won't fit, but maybe. It's too late to worry about that now.

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>>56165301
I think if you managed to have a 140mm PSU you'd be fine, maaaaybe 150mm.
most are 160mm though.
Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it.
And yeah, while I wasn't the guy attacking you I was a bit riled up earlier, I just go full autist about ITX cases for some reason.
Here's some shitty pictures of my old TJ08E build, which I'm only really tacking on because I mentioned the case earlier and want to include an image

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>>56162288
itt - we wonder why someone would place a large block of metal on a small motherboard.

>>56165619
itt heat dissipation one the same on the CPU no matter what board you use.

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>>56165619

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>>56165619
another

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>>56165619
this should make you feel better though

>>56165619

I'm going out on a limb here, but I bet you have a low IQ

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>>56165698

>>56165731
So sexy.

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>>56165777

Fractal Design Define S Nano is the way to go bois.

>>56165707
>I bet you have a low IQ

actually i have a pretty high one that tells me,

1. you don't need a massive heatsink.

2. you shouldn't need 2 or 3 fans on a cpu heatsink.

3. why should i waste 5-10 watts of power for a meme.

4. why should i risk a broken motherboard especially if i mount the motherboard vertically.

>>56166028
1. you don't need a massive heatsink.
An i7 on a ITX doesn't make it cooler than an i7 on a big EATX
So the cooler needs to be massive if it's a CPU that runs hot.
2. you shouldn't need 2 or 3 fans on a cpu heatsink.
Shouldn't is depending on what CPU you use and if you want it to run at decent temps
3. why should i waste 5-10 watts of power for a meme.
Yes, why would someone buy a 65w cpu when they can totally run high cpu demanding games on an APU that lags when playing youtube videos?
4. why should i risk a broken motherboard especially if i mount the motherboard vertically.
Why would you buy a cpu cooler that doesn't use a proper backplate? Or for that matter, why would someone use push pins when all they do is bend motherboards?

>>56166028
>1. you don't need a massive heatsink.
True, it's not a requirement. However it can be desired if someone wants a quiet system.

>2. you shouldn't need 2 or 3 fans on a cpu heatsink.
As above.

>3. why should i waste 5-10 watts of power for a meme.
Both fans together don't even use 5w under full load. Even if they did that's fuck all.

>4. why should i risk a broken motherboard especially if i mount the motherboard vertically.
The size of the motherboard doesn't make any difference to the strength and large heatsinks have been used on plenty of board with no issues. A lot of MITX board are also mounted horizontally.

my next build is going to be a mini meme i think. looks fun and i dislike clutter

>>56166103
>An i7 on a ITX doesn't make it cooler than an i7 on a big EATX
>So the cooler needs to be massive if it's a CPU that runs hot.
so are you saying intel should issue a warning to i7 users not to using stock intel fans in an itx case?

>Shouldn't is depending on what CPU you use and if you want it to run at decent temps

better tell intel to add another fan to their cpu heatsinks then.

>why would someone buy a 65w cpu when they can totally run high cpu demanding games on an APU that lags when playing youtube videos?

i run an i7 in a small itx case on a stock fan, no issues - your point?

Why would you buy a cpu cooler that doesn't use a proper backplate?

good question, i must ask the three customers, whose machines i've repaired that.

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>>56166258
>so are you saying intel should issue a warning to i7 users not to using stock intel fans in an itx case?
>you don't need a massive heatsink.
You need a cooler that can keep the CPU under the temp level you're comfortable with.
If I want my CPU to burn on the edge of destruction all the time with my 4.8GHz OC I'll call you so you can build one and you pay for it every time I need to replace my CPU, because I'm gonna disable thermal throttling so that it doesn't under-perform, because with a good cooler the thermal throttling isn't needed.

>better tell intel to add another fan to their cpu heatsinks then.
They have tower coolers but they aren't good enough to make use of two fans anyway.

>i run an i7 in a small itx case on a stock fan, no issues - your point?
Wow, pic related is you.

>good question, i must ask the three customers, whose machines i've repaired that.
>costumers

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>>56166464
stock coolers are fine..

>>56166258
Normal scenario: Big ass cooler with two fans running slowly no matter how hard you push the CPU since the cooler is so good at cooling

Retarded scenario: tiny ass cheap crappy stock cooler that runs at 100% and still can't cool the CPU so it throttles all the time.

>>56166550
>stock cooler on a below stock i5
Of course, your CPU is the low-end tier of i5.
>76c on a piece of shit 4460 at 3.4GHz
>not even a 4770K/4790K or even a 4670K/4690K

You're the PC Poor Race, the tower coolers aren't for you, they are for the PC Master Race

>>56166634
>below stock i5
it was at full 3.2ghz, at 800mhz now because the workers stopped and load is low.
>76c on a piece of shit 4460 at 3.4GHz
76c isnt very high for p95, still massively lower than real life loads, particularly games. ~60c max.

>not even a 4770K/4790K or even a 4670K/4690K
Obviously not for overclocking. I thought that went without saying. It's not a matter of clock speed or 'being an i7', it's a matter TDP and binning. The i7's need less voltage due to binning and at virtually the same TDP as the i5's, therefore virtually the temps with the stock cooler at stock speeds despite the clocks being higher.

I'm probably wasting my time explaining all of this to you but who knows.

>>56166726
>Obviously not for overclocking
Well then, that's your whole argument out of the window.

>>56166777
Who was saying they were going to OC a K processor on stock? I must have legit missed it because all i saw was you saying they are useless.

Also how do you disable thermal throttling on a modern processor? I don't remember that being a thing in bios since like 2005.

>>56166726
>it was at full 3.2ghz, at 800mhz now because the workers stopped and load is low.
No shit, everyone knows it's using C1E.

>Obviously not for overclocking
And you're retarded.
The tower coolers are for people that overclock, you dumb fuck.
If they don't overclock, they use tower coolers so they can have very slow running fans or for HTPC because a good cooler isn't gonna drown the movie in fan noise.

> I thought that went without saying.
Read the FUCKING OP

>I'm looking for a motherboard that supports overclocking for my old 3570k. I have a small case (pic related) and can't find anything on Newegg. Do any of you have suggestions?

>a motherboard that supports overclocking
>OVERCLOCKING
>3570K, an unlocked CPU that is SPECIFICALLY made for overclocking.

Your piece of shit sub-i5 isn't the topic.

>>56166909
you need to calm down child. and k processors also have a stock setting that works fine with the stock cooler. He could have easily intended to use it at 3.4/3.8ghz until he could get a new cooler as well and i was setting the record straight that he can.

>>56166634
>Retarded scenario: tiny ass cheap crappy stock cooler that runs at 100% and still can't cool the CPU so it throttles all the time.
you should sue intel for defective product then.

good luck with that...

>>56166948
>>56166963
Are you in the wrong thread?

We're talking ITX boards, big coolers and overclocking.
Not cheap noisy shitstations.

>>56166843
>Who was saying they were going to OC a K processor on stock? I must have legit missed it because all i saw was you saying they are useless.
I'm not the guy saying large coolers are useless. He's said they were but he didn't clarify that he only meant for stock CPUs, or he just forgot that other people have needs different to his own.

>>56167016
Large coolers are hideous, there's much better alternatives for non-poor people like water, oil submersion, etc.

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Oh that's a cool printer, anon! where does the paper come out?

>>56167016
>other people have needs different to his own.
OP wants to overclock.
Stock coolers are shit when it comes to overclock.
There, do you understand now?

>>56167081
>Large coolers are hideous
Irrelevant.

>>56167100
>There, do you understand now?
You obviously don't. This has absolutely nothing to do with OP and I'm not the one that has a hard one for stock coolers.

>>56167100
>OP wants to overclock.
He also doesn't have a motherboard for it presumably. If he has the cooler and the chip he can use the cooler with the chip and the new motherboard until he gets a proper cooler. That's all I have to say now.

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Looks like the idiots have left, continue posting ITX with good looking coolers.