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ITT: Red flags that a piece of software will be shit

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ITT: Red flags that a piece of software will be shit
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>>56157198
>it's not free
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Java required
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>>56157216
You somehow missed >>>/v/.
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>>56157232
>analblasted java codemonkey
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>Every time you launch the software they ask you to donate to them
>The message is accompanied by an image of the devs
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>It's made in JavaScript, we used "hybrid technology"
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>>56157198
>based on electron
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>hosted on github
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>it comes pre-installed
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>have to download from sourceforge
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>>56157216
This.
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>fake endorsements from news stations with logos on website
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>>56157216
>>56157281
>>56157284
This.
>>56157265
>>56157267
Meh. Slack's pretty good
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>artisinal
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>eye-raping white background
>no comfy dark theme
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>>56157198
>created by or for "code artisans/mavens/ninjas"
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the website where it's being pimped doesn't allow comments from the users.
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>images on website of hipsters and females "coding"
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>"Awesome" "Javascript"
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>>56157316
this

>>56157303
>Meh. Slack's pretty good
It's a pretty laggy piece of shit, that what it is Morty. Also on their server site, if you revert back to a lot messages from a lot of people.
And an application like that should be 15mb max.

Not worth mentioning that chatting applications shouldn't have a high typing latency that electron typically introduces.
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>>56157198
"minimalistic" UI
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>>56157198
>you have to install java
>you have to install Flash player
>made by Apple
>have to download it from a 3rd party website
>need a 3rd party program to launch it for no reason
>the requirements to run it are too high, which probably means it not optimised correctly
>nobody made a review, or the site which contains the software has obvious fake reviews
>forces updates
>forces you to use an Internet connection/connect to a server (obviously communication software is an exception)
>you must register before downloading for no reason other than them to push ads on you
>you must go to an ad infested site prior to downloading (such as adfly)
>has the word "legit" anywhere on it's page, description or inside the program itself
>has built in ads and if you disable them yourself the software no longer works
>is Windows 10
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>recommended by /g/
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>installer wants to install chrome, pc cleaner, toolbars
>creator tries to force you to pay
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>install 3rd party software as your default search engine
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Made by chinesemen
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>program is basically chrome with a javascript extension for the UI
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>>56157198
When they institute their own file explorer GUI instead of the one natively available by the OS.
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>>56157402
DELETE THIS
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>flat design
>material design
>contributed by freetards
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>window before the main window
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>>56157402
>made by Apple
CUPS is pretty good.
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>>56157526
Well, there are good reasons for doing this.
For example, the folder selection dialog in Windows sucks big time.
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>>56157216
What about Minecraft?
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>desktop program
>made with HTML/JS/CSS
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>>56157712
exactly
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>>56157402
/thread
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>>56157712
Not only is the game terrible, it is slow as fuck just because of java. The c++ counterpart being made is 5 times faster.
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>>56157198
Closed source
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>>56157198
It's open source
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>>56157198
Closed source, obviously. If the code was not shitty they'd have no problem showing it off
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>>56157198
>"Certified by (insert huge tech company here)"

Pretty much guaranteed the certification is fake or meaningless, just trying to trick retards into installing trash.
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>>56158942
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it ends with .exe
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>>56159296
>opusenc2.exe
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>>56157198
Marketed to gaymers
see discord or any razer software
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It has philosophy
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>>56157198
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Node.js and similar shit
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>written by a woman
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>GPLv3.txt
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>it's a windows program
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>>56162928
such as:
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Open source
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There are women/pajeets on the dev team
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>Reviews from Jason, Sally and Tom on the webpage
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The version people recommended to install is not the current version
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>>56157198
>has GUI
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Closed source. Usually indicates horrible codebase
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>>56157300
Mind if I save that funny meme?
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Instead of being listed as compatible with "Linux", it's listed as being compatible with "Ubuntu".
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If it's a Go program or library that depends on more external packages than you can count on your hands.
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Too many GitHub stars/forks yet just a few contributors.
Badges.
Code of conduct.
Screenshots under Mac OS.
Describes itself as "awesome", "modern", "for humans".
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>>56157525
>>56157316
>>56157730
>>56163971
these
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>>56157198
splash screen
special snowflake fonts
custom window frame/buttons
custom control elements (checkboxes, dropdowns, etc) or other look&feel mods
GUI that does not model and display the relevant data correctly, is not straightforward or intuitive, is not "smooth" but requires a convoluted order of operations for every process (e.g. repeated, linked checkboxes on individual subitems when it should be a dropdown on the parent item to choose 1 subitem from because you can only pick 1 anyway)
irrelevant photos of grinning people, children, etc everywhere to elicit positive feelings in onlookers, especially on the website or splash screen (this pisses me off so fucking much, people who work in marketing are the cancer of society and should be hanged)
outdated gui concepts (round corners, bezels, gloss effects, trying to make things look like they have a 3d shape like the glass window buttons in win7)
32bit only
engrish
unclear/unexplained(and often unnecessary) abstractions (particularly annoying example is a partitioning tool of which it's not stated if it recognizes gpt or only mbr, and the UI itself neither seems to particularly mention gpt nor throw errors about not recognizing it... motherfucker, do you or do you not work with gpt? you neither say you do nor spaz out about it when I expose you to it)
marketing lies and exaggerations ("this junk file cleaner will make your pc 50% faster", "this screensaver is good for the environment", "this new driver ensures the optimal performance for that new videogame released yesterday")
bundleware (ever tried installing a printer driver? enjoy all the sideloaded junk)
duplicateware or otherwise reinventing the wheel, i.e. software that serves no original purpose but just duplicates existing stuff, like I seriously once saw someone's laptop with windows that came with a systray wifi applet preinstalled that literally just did exactly the same thing as windows' own systray wifi applet...
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>>56163971
>Describes itself as "awesome", "modern", "for humans".
basically any attempt at "being hip"
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Has an "update checker" that's always running
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>>56157264
Laughed loud in public
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>>56157525
VIVALDI BTFO
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>>56164576
it's good tho

does everything chrome does, but also actually has a decent ui that doesnt look and feel like horseshit, and it exposes a ton more settings
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>>56157402
>this
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>>56157198
one thing I disagree with is everyone's hate for java. Performance of it is good enough, and it's actually a good idea to use it because anything written properly in java is automatically cross-platform. You just need to install the jre. Why does everybody bitch about the java runtime but not e.g. the 5000 visual c runtimes in windows, the python interpreter needed to run python scripts, etc? Fucking bandwagon morons

If your reason is that most java progrms you've seen are shit, blame the pajeets and other shithead retarded devs. There are good and bad programs in everything
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>>56163415
>I want to have to read a dozen manual pages and memorize a bunch of key combos and shit, and then write out long-ass commandlines in the specific jargon and format this one particular tool works with to get any basic task done, even for one-off tasks, instead of a gui that explains itself and all its features, options and data in the blink of an eye, validates/previews/whatever all your input in realtime while you enter it so you can't make mistakes and you can experiment with it, doesn't suffer all those stupid special snowflake nuances that every commandline program ever suffers (like different formats of passing or parsing parameters) and generally has 0 learning curve
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The program was made by a women or anyone other than a white male in their 30's or older.
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>>56163415
So I guess you're using a text mode browser for everything, using curl to directly http post your posts to 4chan.org, viewing all your images like the one you attached as an ascii-art interpretation in your terminal, and your desk has no mouse on it

Classic sign of an autist to whom neet points are more important than actually getting shit done like an adult
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>>56157712
It is good, but is the exception to the rule. You will also notice lag on it on a low range machine despite the 1994 level graphics.
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you have to download a "download manager" before you can download the actual software you want
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Flash, Silverlight or Java is required
Propiertary
Made by Adobe, Apple, Microsoft, Google and other botnets
Flat UI
Download not trough SSL
Ends with .exe
No native GNU/Linux support
Cant select dark/light theme
Does not have a licence
Recommended to download through Softonic or other places like that
Site has 3 big buttons displaying FREE DOWNLOAD when legitimate download button is 3x smaller
Suspicious results through virustotal

These are a just a few
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>>56157198
gtk3 dependecy
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>>56165051
>no license
you're free to reverse engineer the source code
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>>56158521
>being made
and never finished

Though I agree - the java version is garbage. On my home machine it allocates gigs of memory only to then run the world freeze garbage collector, freezing the game for several hundred milliseconds. memory graph looks something like >pic related
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>>56159282
where did the kung foo chicken fit anywhere is shrek.
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>>56157300
>4kb pr. instance

is this shit real`?
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hosted on cnet
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>made with java
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>poorly translated English
>its icon is slightly pixelated
>fake endorsements and blurbs
>it's literally just a white background with standard text with links and images scattered about
>automatically installs other, unrelated programs
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>freemium overdrive: you can download the app, but can't do jack shit with it until you pay for something
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>>56158581
>>56158850
/g/, everyone
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>>56157670
Nope. There's never a good reason for it. It is always shit. It always looks like shit. It always functions like shit. It will always be shit.
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Has a splash screen.

Splash screen is visible for more than a second.

There's no visible feedback/loading bar or anything and the thing takes like a minute to load up completely.

There's a loading bar but it doesn't actually show any progress it's one of those ones that has a bar goes from the left to the right constantly which defeats the entire purpose of a loading bar.

Software uses its own widgets for the titlebar/buttons.

Only available on windows.
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Any piece of software that requires gtk on windows is an automatic yellow flag at least.
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I got some red flags for you

> ""Offers"" to install other programs and has the checkbox selected by default

> Either contains advertisements as a part of the basic program or installs adware.
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>>56158521
Isn't it illegal to make a better minecraft now that it's owned by Microshit?
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>>56166474
Just don't name it Minecraft. There are variants on the Windows Store for shit's sake which are very similar but with radically different names.

>inb4 why are you using the windows store
It was an example
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>>56166474
Also, the C++ counterpart they mention is made BY Microsoft and is available on aforementioned Windows Store. It is free if you already own Minecraft for the PC.
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>>56166492
Can any of these clones connect to regular minecraft servers?
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>>56166512
>made by MICROSOFT
Oh, so Loonix users are stuck with the awful java version?
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>>56157660
And the only thing that is good from Apple
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>doesn't use OS's UI
>checks for updates before starting
>checks for updates automatically
>doesn't start until update check is complete
>hosts ads
>proudly uses anything with "java" in it
>doesn't ask for installation directory
>installs in appdata/home directory
>has/is a self extracting zip.exe
>hosted on a site that "noticed you are using an ad blocker haha"
>program is a "hub"
>designed to do only one task, which does not require external drivers or permissions but still "needs to be installed"
>needs "verification"
all guaranteed trips to either a vm, sandbox, or the fucking trash
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>>56157264
kek
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>>56164797
Having default scripts that work well enough is nice. Example (with gui) is jkdefrag (I don't use windows anymore so dunno about now). You can read the manual and make it do exactly what you want, or deal with standard setup
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>>56157198
>closed source
>made by women or gays
>made only for specific hardware
>needs extra software to access it
Basically iShit. Apple will never be good again. It died with iOS 5 and 6.
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>>56166784
The dev of jkdefrag made it proprietary and renamed it to mydefrag and then he abandoned it too.
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>>56157198
>its open source
>only available on loonix
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>>56166850
A U T I S M
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>Its not a CLI application
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>>56157198
>It's proprietary
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Closed-source.
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>>56157712
Minecraft is garbage from a technical perspective.
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>>56166249
Probably is a pretty old comic
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>>56157198
FOSS
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>>56157246
this
kek
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>no option to set installation path
>if option is available filebrowser isn't integrated with windows explorer
>bundled with shit you don't want
>must create an account to use software
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>>56157198
>free trial now!
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>>56163927
Another good one:
>listed as being compatible with Unixlikes, only works on GNU/Linux
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>>56167335
>must create an account to use software
This so much.
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GTK+
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>>56157198
>not free and open source
>has a code of conduct
>made by microsoft or facebook
>developed by poo in loos
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>>56167335
>windows
Big Red Flag right there.
How about subscriptions?
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isn't open-source :^)
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>>56157198
>bloat/adware included in installer
>based on node.js
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>tfw we'll be accessing windows X via a browser in the near future
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The main website is scrolling across full width stock images and minimalistic diagrams, with some sort of "try it out" button at the end
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>>56157303
>Meh. Slack's pretty good
lol no. why does an irc client lag while typing? why does an irc client need a gig of ram?
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>>56164732
>If your reason is that most java progrms you've seen are shit, blame the pajeets and other shithead retarded devs.
that doesn't make java not a red flag. red flag = warning, not guaranteed to be terrible
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>>56157198
you install it via a binary downloaded over the internet
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>>56166534
No.
>>56166558
If you don't want a Java version, you can find a knock off of Minecraft
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Doesn't follow standard shortcut conventions.
Doesn't follow standard UX conventions.
Creates folders for user data in stupid places without user consultation.
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>>56157198
>is not on Linux
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>>56163833
it's all yours brother. :)
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>>56167593
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>56157402
dam son
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>Microsoft Certified Partner®
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>their official website is a cancerous scroll-down html5 wordpress-tier ramfest
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>>56163415
So you used ed to write your resume? Oh right, that explains the Neetness.
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>Nonfree Javascript Code
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>fucking youtube ad with a minimalistic animation on a white background
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>>56164603
>does everything chrome does, but also actually has a decent ui that doesnt look and feel like horseshit, and it exposes a ton more settings

fuck off
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Softonic downloader
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>>56163025
Beat me to it.
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>made with in San Francisco
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>>56157198
>it's open source
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>>56157198
The link to download the source code is easier to find on their website than the one to download binaries.
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>>56168926
>>56163025
yeah you two are the only special snowflakes to have thought of making this super hilarious unpredictable joke. you're fucking soulmates.
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>>56157198
>Open source
>Free of charge
Yeah, I'd rather stick with professionally made, quality software
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> insists that it automatically start with Windows
> by default changes your search engine to Yahoo
> comes bundled with another piece of software
> wants to restart your PC after installation
> close to tray instead of closing completely
> requires you to register your email to use
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>>56168781
>pizza
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>>56157264
>Mfw I see that
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>social media integration
>support done by twitter
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>GPL licensed
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Splash screen
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>>56157198
>Closed source
>Toolbars
>Ads

T R A S H
R
A
S
H
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Uses electron/node for non-web shit
Is made by Apple
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>>56166249
nope, just a meme made by a jobless neet
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>program loads web content in its own window
>windows "click" noise plays
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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it's affiliated with 4chan or /g/ in some way
it's an android app
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>>56164825
Why are women a red flag
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>>56171403
it triggers his fight or flight response. this is pretty natural for autistic nerds
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BSD license.
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>>56157311
Desu. Tomorrow is the best style.
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>>56157198
>
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>>56157402
>getting ads from adfly
git gud
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>code of conduct
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>>56171410
0/10
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>have to download and install it instead of being a simple webapp
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>it's a webapp
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>>56171410
You mean cuck license
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>name is a recursive acronym
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>>56166512
>tfw its far superior but no mods
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>>56158521
It's not slow because of Java, it's slow because it was written by a retard.
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>>56164844
>using curl to directly http post your posts to 4chan.org
This should be required for /g/
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>>56158881
>paint.net
>people keep selling it and removing the notices that it's free
>creator has to make it closed source
fuggggg
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>>56159296
you sure about that one anon?
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>>56172302
>This should be required for /g/
Is your e-peenor that small?
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>>56172302
seems like captcha would require some work
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>>56166718
>>checks for updates before starting
>>checks for updates automatically
why would this be bad?
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Uses GTK/Qt bloat trash instead of native Win32 UI
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>>56172791
>not wanting portability
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>>56172816
>HomOSeX
>Lincucks
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>>56172827
>Wincuckold
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>>56172840
>dumb costanzaposter
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>>56172827
>Dumb drake poster
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>>56172827
>winPOO
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>>56166582
Accelerate framework is also good
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>not written in Haskell
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>>56157216
FileBot is good though
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>>56172840
>>56172877
>>56172988
>samefagging
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>>56171403
Because feminism is in vogue these days, so a fedoralord's response is to become comically misogynistic in order to maintain fedoralord status.
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>>56157232
poo>>>loo Pajeet.
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Open source software in general
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>>56157198
developed by poo in loos
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>>56167593
that freetard needs some cable management
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>>56172827
>being 12
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>>56166718
>>doesn't ask for installation directory
>installs in appdata/home directory
>designed to do only one task, which does not require external drivers or permissions but still "needs to be installed"
Fucking this. Fucking hate installers. Why the fuck can't Windows into simplistic app installation like package manager or app dragging on Mac? And why the fuck can't developers push portability for apps as much as possible?
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>>56157198
It's based on gtk3
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>>56157198
exits out if dbus is not available (even if the software works fine without dbus)
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>Accidentally installed adware
>No uninstall shortcut available even though it exclusively created a start menu folder
>Has to find uninstall.exe
>Uninstaller has a FUCKING dumb captcha
>Uninstaller doesn't remove EVERYTHING the adware installed
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>>56157300

Yeah good luck debugging or changing code of giant applications without exceptions and classes. I worked for a company that wrote 3-million lines of codes in each application, all in Assembly or C. Any time something broke when changing a module or updating something it took DAYS to find the bug.
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>>56165854
In the part where they don't get sued.
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>Java has a prompt to install a toolbar, but it isn't selected by default

Oracle are kinda based
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>>56172737
If you can't write a classifier better than Google's you seriously don't belong on /g/.
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>>56177131
Okay, kid
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>>56157198
>If it starts with "K" or is related to kde
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>>56157216
>Runescape is bad
?
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>>56176995
>adware included uninstall.exe

You should be fucking grateful
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>>56172791
>Win32
TRASH
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>>56177163
win32 api is glorious tho

one day you'll be looking at code using windows.h and it'll all click
you'll see
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>>56177036
Java was developed for the industrial code monkey sector
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>>56163959
You haven't met the npm dependency hell, where a few lines of library sometimes require kilobytes upon kilobytes of dependencies.

I just counted: The recommended boilerplate for building a **static** Foundation site requires 714 npm packages (and four bower components).
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>>56177163
t. freetard neckbeard
win32 is GOAT
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>>56166582
OpenCL is breddy gud
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>>56179446
OpenCL is a fucking terrible abomination

the drivers are all shit and unstable, the language is a gigantic mess and all OpenCL code I've ever seen looks like somebody vomited all over the screen
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>>56179446

opencl has nothing to do with apple
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>>56157712
It would be much faster if it was written in C.
LWJGL is shit.
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>>56180060
4 u
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>Desktop/mobile application written in Javascript
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>>56157198

If it has a small green robot cartoon charicter anywhere on or near it.
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