Recommended Linux Distros

debian with i3

Quit while you're ahead. It's an endless search for nothing. Don't do it anon.

>>56151201
I've got a friend who does this, and he seems to like it, so that's on my list

>>56151168
Arch KDE

>>56151263
Arch might be a little more involved than I'm looking for, though it could still be fun to try

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>>56151168
>okay with unity
>okay with extra resource use

lol. Unity is pretty much the top end of resource use and one of the best DEs for a modern PC. Gnome is also good as you've found. Given your post I don't think you're going to find anything you like better.

>distro you recommend
Ubuntu LTS, no question.

>>56151353
Manjaro KDE

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>>56151168
>>56151168
gentoo + awesome

kde and gnome are good guis but trash environments.

For avoiding systemd go with void linux

>>56151476
Shut up, autist

>>56151168
void with frankenwm

>>56151204
This. OP, do it just if you are about Linux. I'm a Linux user but most of the software is for devs. You will not find better software and a lot of games will have worse performance. It was a nice experience but I'm tired of trying to work with open source, maybe after some years it will be easier but not now. If you have a lot of time, you can consider Linux but otherwise it will waste you lots of time if you don't need it.

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>>56151484
At least try to contribute to the thread

>>56151168
I'm using Debian/Gnome atm.
I had problems with KDE, sometimes random applications wouldn't autostart or the wallpaper would reset.
Very annoying, worked everything like a charm with Gnome.

>>56151501
Your meme doesn't add anything.

OP stay with *buntu, the best distro there is

>>56151553
>having the same distro with just another de/wm under diffetent names
Why do people recommend this again?

Also, i just gave an suggestion, unlike your reply faggot >>56151476

>>56151168
Solus is great, fast as fuck. Debian can be made to be palatable, never heard of Korora, but it looks interesting.

>>56151553
I'd say Arch is the best distro.

t. Debian user.

>>56151586
OP is looking for DE so yeah, *buntu is a legit suggestion.

Your reply has nothing to do with OP's concern.

>>56151607
The title of the thread literally states "recommend Linux distros"

And yes, *buntu is a viable option. Still don't get the logic behing changing a de/wm and giving it a new name.
Void comes in different flavours too, still doesn't beed to change it's name and website.

>>56151646
>So, my question for you, is what Linux distro do you recommend?
>And within them, what window manager and desktop environment?
Simple answer: *buntu

Also
1. OP did NOT state that he is trying to avoid systemD
2. OP is tempted to use SystemD distros

So why are you in this thread?

>>56151168
I like Debian because it's simple, stable, and updates don't break everything. It's basically everything GNU/Linux is meant to be. Also perfect for servers. As far as desktop environments go I've fallen in love with KDE. As much as /g/ spreads the bloat meme it's the best. KDE Connect is also great. Sometimes I'll save an image on clover and it's nice to not have to worry about cables when I transfer that image to my computer. I've also replaced my mouse with a $20 chink tablet taped to my desk that acts as one big trackpad. Feels good.

>>56151168
>>56151201
Devuan with i3
For work when you won't spend time configuring it >for free Devuan with XFCE / XFCE core + applications of your choice

>>56151689
I'm giving a viable option.
>A Linux Distro
check
>comes with different DEs to choose
check
>i didn't recommend a DE/WM
because i did recomnend it in general, not only to OP
>reason you might want to check it out
Without systemd

I have every right to be in OPs thread as you have, just another reason.

You're acting as pointing to more options is a bad thing. You know which peoples mindset that is? Right, winfags. Think about it.

I'm done, boy.

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>>56151168
Manjaro Cinnamon

>>56151168
I am using Devuan and is a great improvement. Instead of recommending a window manager I just point you to use xwinman.org and choose yourself.

Good luck.

>>56151745
>OP asks for a distro and a DE
>"HURR DURR FUCK DA SYSTEMD :DDDD INSTALL LA VOID"
>Why not systemd
>"CUZZ WITHOUT SYSTEMD XDD"
>Now I am a winfag
Wow mental delusion is a desease. Take your systemd debate autism somewhere else, autist

Threre is a reason why EVERY major distro has systemd

>>56151778
I'm not saying systemd is bad, even if it's my personal opinion, or did i?
Stop reading something that isn't implyed anywhere.

Anyone have experience with Tails, Ipredia, or Kali? From what I understand, these are not meant to be used as main distros unless you're a good programmer/hacker, etc.

Usually used for cracking and/or anyominty

I remember using Backtrack 5 to crack WEP codes, but that was it.

Otherwise I'm using Linux Mint 17.3

Thinking of doing Linux Mint 18 XFCE

>>56151778
>systemd shill damage control

>>56151804
When did OP ask for "avoiding systemd "?

>>56151825
Fuck off

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>>56151832
Why don't you take your paranoid ass off 4chan.

And take your poettering shit with you.

>>56151832
I'm not gonna tell you something twice, kiddo.

I did just put it here. You make assumpions, call me an Autist and after explaining it to you, you still don't fucking get it.

Here i'm going to please YOU: void linux + Mate DE

>>56151853
What's paranoid about using the most popular init system?

>>56151818
Xubuntu. Why would you use Mint Xfce?

>>56151818
Installing Tails kinda beats it's purpose.

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Wizards assemble !

Advanced users of GNU/Linux, remember to try Source Mage GNU/Linux. True source-based distribution that can heal broken installs. And (in contrast with Gentoo and Arch) is:

Free from obfuscated and pre-configured code.
Fully committed to GPL, and uses only free software (as in freedom) in their main package.
Even the documentation is licensed as FDL.
Without 3rd party patches, sensible defaults or masked packages.
Doesn't need obfuscated python libraries, only bash.
Uses clean dependencies as they came from upstream developers, which by the same provides instant updates.
Can also use flags.

Do you like Arch Linux's AUR? Do you like Gentoo's portgage? Do you like BSD ports? You haven't seen anything like SMGL's "sorcery". Making new "spells" to install source code not found in the "grimoire" (repository) is as easy as editing files http://sourcemage.org/Spell/Book

Come and join
http://sourcemage.org/

>>56151908
What so good aboutbXubuntu? Ive tried various Ubuntu offspins, and was never a huge fan. I guess I just like Mint better.

Is it just that Xububtu takes much less ram/cpu/space on your computer or what?

I would be willing to give it a go, but I guess I'll have to look back into it.

OP here. I don't want to open up a huge can of worms and derail my own thread, but what's the fuss over systemd?

Also, if *buntu is in fact the way to go, are there any recommendations for cool ways of customizing it?

>>56152673
Systemd was a project to have a unified init system (good)
Nowadays it adds a shitton of stuff that's way beyond an init system. (Bad)
There are raised concerns about why, and what this means. But i'm not going into detail here, as it'd spark the derailment further.

>>56152741
Thanks. That's a start. I can look into it some more on my own

>>56152205
intredasting

>>56152813
You don't even need to. It's just some vocal hippies. If you are using real distros like Ubuntu, Debain, Mint, Fedora, Redhat, CentOS, Arch, Korora, Solus, Manjaro, Antergos etc they ALL have systemd. You'll be using it and you wouldn't even know

Many packages are now somewhat developed in systemd in mind (because we need a standard init system)

>>56152965
Yeah, I don't really think I'll have a problem with it. Just curious

>>56153077
Old, objective Article.
tl;dr as a user you're 90% just glad it works

http://www.zdnet.com/article/linus-torvalds-and-others-on-linuxs-systemd/

>>56151168

Instead of moving to something new right away you can try different de's and panels in ubuntu. Just backup before you start because I found there's a bit of a learning curve to doing this. Also good idea to logout/login after every install change. You'll get more insight into how linux works doing this. When you install a de just logout and then login in the new de and you're in the new environment.

I'm using lubuntu and I kept everything installed so I can go back to how it was if I want to use the guis that came with it. Then for the lightweight experience I login with openbox and tint2 panel.

Moving around distrobutions can be rough since a lot of things are different in the terminal. So far I haven't found another one that has enticed me out of lubuntu so I'll stick with it for now. Have fun.

>>56151204
Said the rabbit.

Are there any good Kali tutorials? Please no Indians I can't listen to them.

>>56151553
Ubuntu is utter garbage. Every package is patched so it can function in the failed Unity project and it's clear that Canonical have given up on the desktop after the pathetic excuse for an LTS known as 16.04.

>>56156479
Thank you for CORRECTING THE RECORD.
9 cents have been deposited in your account.

>>56151168
stick with your buntu and gnome. if you're happy with it, why change?

I'm ok with Arch, it isn't true that everything dies on every update, /g/ can't into Arch so people needs to meme. It's not better than other distros like Debian or Fedora or Gentoo (if that's your fetish), but I like pacman a lot, and AUR is awesome. I use Openbox, it may be a pain to configure without GUI tools (obmenu-generator can safe your life), but once it is, you'll love it. Also, don't forget to kill bash and use fish (easy mode) or zsh (hard mode) instead, do it whatever distro you choose

>>56152205
>http://sourcemage.org/
> We primarily congregate in IRC

Because, fucking around with chat windows 24 hours per day is clearly the most efficient means of communicating critical development details on an alpha-level distro.

> The Source Mage tagline is: "Linux so advanced, it may as well be magic.". Basic terminology is similarily magic-oriented. Program packages are called spells, and a collection of spells is called a Grimoire. All installed grimoires likewise make up the Codex.

> Installing a spell is called "casting", and removing it is called "dispelling".

Translation: once you learn to speak our archaic dialect of Latvian, you'll be cool enough to be one of us.

Truly, they are a faggotry of Wizards. I'll make sure to buy some 20-sided dice to help with installation and debugging.

What's wrong with Ubuntu?

A friendly reminder there are only three Linux distributions that count and dominate in the real (i.e. enterprise/production) world: Debian, RedHat and SuSe as a distant third. Everything else is autism/hobby/timesink tier.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>56156632
seconding, once you go rolling release you never go back. and the convenience of just being able to yaourt -S whatever is unmatched.

>>56152205
this is the most autistic thing i have ever seen.

>>56157792
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU/I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
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>>56152205
This is so cool. I plan on jumping there once I finish cleaning my computer, will use it in my desktop.

>>56156839
>>56157806
Morons.

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>>56152965
How is this not shilling? People have abandoned Debian just for that, as also Arch, etc.

>Many packages are now somewhat developed in systemd in mind (because we need a standard init system)
The systemd developers demand maintaners to have systemd as a required dependency. As you are blatantly saying.

Go shill your shit somewhere else.

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>>56153108
How about good reasons not to use it
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
http://systemd-free.org/why.php
http://www.infoworld.com/article/2608798/data-center/systemd--harbinger-of-the-linux-apocalypse.html
http://blog.lusis.org/blog/2014/09/23/end-of-linux/
https://ewontfix.com/14/
http://suckless.org/sucks/systemd
https://devuan.org/os/init-freedom/

tl;dr you are full of shit, fucking shill

>>56157968
I'm the void guy, i don't use systemd.
Still being objective and allowing others the freedom of choice is what freedom™ truly means.
I like to have the freedom of using proprietary graphics drivers, for example.

Don't be that guy, it just puts a bad light on Linux users.

>>56157905
>implying that calling your repo a fucking grimoire does not constitute being a complete retard
thanks anon

>>56151495
Actually, for me it's the opposite. Since I don't have much time, and because I use my home computer just for watching movies and series and browsing the internet for trap porn, I use Linux. Not having to bother with viruses, software activation, shitty ads and spyware. It just werks.

>>56157951
>People have abandoned Debian just for that, as also Arch
As I said, insignificant hipsters do not count. The larger community are happy that those vocal minority is gone. Now is the time of systemd/wayland to develop. If you don't like progress go cry in the corner with your half assed barely works distros

>Go shill your shit somewhere else.
Don't need to, systemd is adopted in every major distros

Tldr: take your contrarian garbage somewhere else.

I'd just like ta interject fo' a moment. What you’re referrin ta as Linux, is up in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken ta callin it, GNU plus Linux. Linux aint a operatin system unto itself yo, but rather another free component of a gangbangin' straight-up functionin GNU system made useful by tha GNU corelibs, shell utilitizzles n' vital system components comprisin a gangbangin' full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computa playas run a modified version of tha GNU system every last muthafuckin day, without realizin dat shit. Through a peculiar turn of events, tha version of GNU which is widely used todizzle is often called "Linux", n' nuff of its playas aint aware dat it is basically tha GNU system, pimped by tha GNU Project. There straight-up be a Linux, n' these playas is rockin it yo, but it is just a part of tha system they use.
Linux is tha kernel: tha program up in tha system dat allocates tha machine’s resources ta tha other programs dat you run. I aint talkin' bout chicken n' gravy biatch. Da kernel be a essential part of a operatin system yo, but useless by itself; it can only function up in tha context of a cold-ass lil complete operatin system. Linux is normally used up in combination wit tha GNU operatin system: tha whole system is basically GNU wit Linux added, or GNU/Linux fo' realz. All tha so-called "Linux" distributions is straight-up distributionz of GNU/Linux.

>>56158548
>I'm terribly sorry for interjecting another moment, but what I just told you is GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.
>Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.
>There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.

>>56151168
Fedora/CentOS/W7 with Cygwin at work.
Manjaro/Debian/Ubuntu (OB or XFCE) at home and I have a W7 partition that I use rarely.

>>56152673
>>56152813
>>56153077
Don't listen to apologists OP, systemd did nothing but breaking the community, among other things.

Elementary OS has worked fairly well as a babby distro for me. I'm new to Linux so the way it just werks has been helpful. The software manager is pretty convenient to say the least but riddled with bugs that I can't fix because babby

>>56152673
As you can see, for one it split the community in half, because it tries to force you into using it, by encroaching upon other software and changing their dependencies as to include systemd.

Also it's developed by red hat and they are actually ass hats, their developers don't know what the hell they are doing and they don't care if they break other software, because they want you to only use their own software. Bunch of control freaks let loose with millions of dollars in budget behind them. See http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/news/a-linux-conspiracy-theory for more details.

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>>56151168
greetings linux bro.

I've tried myriad flavors of linux, this is where I've landed for the last few years:

on the Desktop, I use Mint w/ Cinnamon (which is basically a modernized GNOME fork)

for any server stuff, especially virtualized, I use CentOS 6 minimal install and built out from there. I've been able to create extremely lightweight but powerful VMs with CentOS 6 minimal.

n.b. I've messed around with CentOS 7 a little bit, but they really really really changed a lot and it's kind of a pain in the ass on the learning curve.

>>56151718

Not joking here, sincerely wanna know why systemd is considered so bad

>>56159217
>>56157968 gave a few reasons

>>56159568
I'm trying to understand the devs reasons, but if it so bad why so many distro have adopted it?

>>56159604
Not a dev, but i think the reason is systemd tries to be a wool producing, flying pig which you can milk.
So if someones want to adress something in the area of clothing, they HAVE to deal with not only the basic way to do things, but also systemd's. Or maybe rather.

This is just an assumption, don't take it as real info.

>>56151168
Ubuntu 16.04
If your computer is fairly newish and has good enough specs.

For older computers i would go with linux lite.

>>56159604
Because GNOME depends on systemd.

Give elementary a try. Or if you want to try just the DE it's called pantheon.

>>56160523
if you're at all technically inclined just use the DE with a real distro

>>56151476
I like void, but I think its package repo is too small for now. New users should stick with something else

i've some experience with ubuntu, opensuse and fedora.
should i go for Manjaro OpenRC and use KDE?
or will it be a frustrating timesink?

I don't know what distro is the most beautiful, I don't care about it. Russian http://pingvinus.ru say that "Deepin Linux" is the most beautiful distro.

Serious answer: if you are not using Slackware or Gentoo, you might as well use Windows or ChromeOS.

>>56151748
I love how Manjaro looks but I literally couldn't use pacman out of box because the time kept fucking up

>>56159604
There was no debate for the adoption, particularly on Debian it was forced and many flee http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=570371

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this guy walks up to you and slaps systemd on your favorite OS, fucking it up in the process.
What do you do?

Arch with i3... you won't like it now, see you in about 2 years anon.

The quest for sexy Linux leads to bloated Linux, the quest for light Linux leads to custom Linux, the quest for custom Linux leads to simple Linux.

At least that was my distro, DE, WM experience and ultimately how I ended up on Arch running i3.

>>56161356
What does Slackware do that Ubuntu can't? Dependency handling?

>>56164645
bend over and take the D