/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>tfw no comfy X320

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Does anyone know what's up with this magnet here on my T520 ?

where to git a gud deal on x220/t420

I want to replace the keyboard on my T430s. Is there anything I can do wrong?

>>56090307
Lid switch.

>>56090313
eBay

>>56090321
No.

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>>56090307
Probably the speaker

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>>56090307
Lid detection.

What SSDs do you guys use with your ThinkPads?

>>56090331
>>56090342
Oh, I see. Thanks anons.

>>56090336
I initially thought so too, but it most definitely isn't.

>>56090342
Anything from Crucial/Micron/Intel/SanDisk/Samsung is usually a good buy.

>>56090398
Some Thinkpads seem to have compatibility issues with some SSDs (error 2100), so I'm wondering.

I have a question fellas, I have a hp laptop with the following specs, i7, 16gb ram, 750gb 7200rpm hdd, nvidia 635 2gb gpu.....sorry I'm on my phone, no speccy.....my question is would it be worth it to add a 256gb ssd and use it as the OS drive and to run all my programs? Bc right now it's getting a little slow, I've had it four years, and I just now realized it has a 2nd hdd bay, I really only use it as a media pc for the tv in my bedroom

Can I somewhere look up specifications for a screen by its FRU?

My x250 just arrived and I specifically asked the seller if it comes with an IPS screen, he confirmed it does, but in reality it doesn't seem like IPS.

I just want to make sure it really isn't IPS before I contact him, it might just be a really shitty one. Googling the FRU didn't help much as there are different websites stating different things.

>>56090493
Yes, absolutely.

>>56090331
>Lid switch.

i have the same thing with my T410 on both sides, are you sure it's not the speakers ?

>>56090418
There are also some older models with a different height that doesn't fit. 9mm instead of 7mm iirc.

>>56090507
https://download.lenovo.com/parts/ThinkPad/x250_frubom_20160106.pdf

>>56090518
Speakers or lid switch, probably speakers on the side, lid switch in the palmrest or other location

>>56090538
7mm fits into 9.5mm actually.

>>56090513
Thanks man, I'm just worried about loosing the drivers and stuff when I pop in the ssd bc in order for it to run the OS it has to be in the same bay that my current hdd is in, I'm gonna have to see if I can do this without loosing my programs and some of the stuff that came with the laptop i.e. HP coolsense

>>56090250
What is that?

>>56090563
Chinese made mod for the X220/230

13.3" 1080p IPS panel from the XPS 13

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pretty excited to be honest

>>56090552
Yeah, but not the other way around.

>>56090571
sexy af.

>>56090550
>AUO 12.5"HD A
I assume this isn't an IPS?

Are the new thinkpads that shit?
I don't live in the US and therefore I cannot find the good deals.

>>56090737
Depends how autistic you want to be

>>56090737
I'm in England and had no problem scoring a new deal on a t420

>>56090933
where did you buy it from exactly?

>>56090571
How is this mod achieved?

Just for comparison can anyone with a T400 with P8600 run and post the CPU-Z benchmark?

Also people with one, some reviews about it?

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>>56090997

Some chinks from 51nb did it, like every other cool Thinkpad mod. He cut the bezel to better fit the screen and pretty sure the display is actually connected through the dock display port output, so might not have brightness control.

Same seller is selling the x62 as well.

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I absolutely fucking despite getting dust in my keyboard, /g/. Any recommendations for a good silicone key cover that isn't obnoxiously thick or of shit quality? All the ones I find on Ebay are from China.

Pic unrelated, but eye-catching?

>>56091853
Just routinely remove the keyboard and clean it with canned air, then replace.

If keys are getting dinged or frayed just buy a new one.

You're welcome.

Are the thinkpads from the lenovo website any good ?

I need a new working class laotop and i was wondering if the t560 or the p50 are good pc or if i should just look somewhere else

It's mainly for photo editing and common usage connected to a 4k monitor
Gaymes are not a priority (don't need quad sli to play space chem)

I'm getting a new ssd for my x220 tablet, I can get either a 240GB PNY CS1311 or 240GB Kingston UV400. Same price but not so sure which one is the best choice, anyone use either of those on a x220t?

I want to get a T420s as my next laptop.
Other than the smaller battery, form factor and weight, are there any real differences to the regular T420?

I intend to upgrade the CPU to a i7-2670QM and do the FHD IPS screen mod.

Okay /g/, I was on the brink of buying a used X220 or X230 but started doing research about privacy and software freedom and I feel like I need to reclaim my privacy. Anyone got the Libreboot X200? Feels kinda dumb spending that much money on a 8 yer old laptop but I guess freedom isn't free huh? I'm not planning doing illegal activity but feel like if I buy something than that makes it mine and don't appreciate some agencies or government gathering any information about me since it's none of their business where I am and what I do.

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>>56090342
r-rip tree

>>56090696
No. If it was IPS it'd say so.

>>56092467
>I intend to upgrade the CPU to a i7-2670QM

not possible

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>>56090250
>shit sandy bridge CPU
>HD 3000
kek
This is how much of a cuck you are. please kys

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ThinkPad T430 master race reporting in.
>GPU is overclocked to 900mhz at core and 1200mhz at memory
>CPU has turbo mode enabled
>even under full load of all components it still uses less than 90W of power and gets 90C degrees MAX

>>56092735
>W
Might as well buy a desktop.

In from Freedom Land and just bought a x230 with a UK keyboard. Can I buy a US keyboard for the same model and replace it just like I would with replacing a keyboard regularly.

Thanks.

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How much of a pain in the ass is to get the pen/touchscreen working on a model like the x220t if I'm going to be using a linux distro (most likely debian)?

>>56091435
The bezel is custom made, not cut.

>>56092735
>infighting
Why?

>>56092947
>investing money in old deprecated shit platform

>>56092964
What's your fucking problem, man?

>>56092907
Literally works out of the box with Ubuntu and Fedora. Don't know about Debian, but it can't be that hard.

I now have two x220's, what to do?

>>56093012
that's great to hear, thanks man

>>56093053
the rotations shit wont though. You have to make a script that does it for you

>>56092980
My problem is you're a contagious cuck.

>>56093026
Gimme one

I wanted to get a Macbook Air but researched a bit more about Thinkpads and found out that they are a much better alternative for what I want. I'm looking into buying an X240. Is the battery life good on used ones?

just got my t420 in the other day and have been giving it a whirl before school starts on the 6th
not a bad laptop for $180, Win10 included

>>56093597
If you really want x240 remember to replace the touchpad module with x250's one.
Touch trackpoint buttons are an absolute cancer.

>>56093597
Get an X260
Why do you want thinkpads?

>>56092259
Both are really bad options.

Get a 850 EVO.

>>56093694
The used ones are pretty damn cheap for what they are, also they are built sturdy and a lot of the parts are apparently easy to replace yourself.

>>56088722
No worries dude, I was mostly venting anyway. Who knows, in a few more years they may realize their mistake and restructure shit all over again. But that's probably wildly optimistic.

>>56092259
CS2111 is slightly cheaper and better. Or CS2211 if you can find one.

2211 > 1311 > UV400

>>56094037
Apparently only the 230 and older are actually durable.
If you get a X240 you got the worst possible one.

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Just got a T500 for $75, I'm going to be installing Debian with LXDE. I have the most experience with Debian and was wondering what DE/WM you guys use or if you'd recommend a different distro.

>>56089469

Repostin

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Friendly reminder to clean out your air intakes!

>x200 regularly does 55C while idling
>air intake underneath the fan was completely caked in dust
>clean it out with toothbrush
>idle temps is now 42C

>>56094208
Im assuming youre running Windows. Almost goes without saying, but clean the fan with canned air. Run RMClock and undervolt it. (Google "undervolting guide"). Theres some fan control software that works on those old Dells I can't remember the name of. Also, get the ATI CCC software and put the GPU into low power mode, it halves the clock frequency. You'll have it running 20°+ C cooler and the battery will last about 30% longer too.

t. prior D410 and D810 owner

>>56094337

Everything is cleaned, fan is repalced with new unit. I will check out those underclock guides, don't really need the x300 for some desktop programs. And yes, I run windows xp, becasue the software im using works only on it (and 98, lel).

Are there any risks when buying "seller refurbished" thinkpads from ebay?
I am from Europe and I can't get better deals, sadly.

>>56094546
Seller refurbished generally means they cleaned it up for you and installed windows and then marked it up.
They should be ready to use out of the box.

If you don't feel like browsing or waiting for a good auction, it's acceptable, they'll come with a battery and AC adapter guaranteed.

>t420
>windows 7
>battery life display seems to be inaccurate
>finds software to fix
>'Sorry, only available for windows 8 and above'

What the FUCK

I ended up buying a 70++ and 25++ extension factory new cause fuck it, would be nice to re calibrate the battery life tho

Did that anon ever finish the T420 games list?

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Is the X201 before or after thinkpad became chinkpad?

Also is $180 a good price to pay for one?

>>56094879
i think over $100 for any core2duo model is expensive.

I just found out that the T430 I bought has bluetooth and wwan/gps. None of these were advertised by the seller.

Shit was cash.

>>56094470
That's actually good since the programs I suggested are made to work on an OS of the same era and it's way easier to do in Windows than it is in Linux with PHC.

Now that I'm back at my desktop and have my bookmarks, this is the undervolting guide I was talking about:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/the-undervolting-guide.235824/

It'll take you a few hours to do testing and get your stable voltage values, but it's totally worth it.

>>56094076
I just don't want it to fall apart immediately or want any cheap feeling plastic. I just want a good laptop with good battery life that can handle photoshop every once in a while.

any recommendations for used thinkpads with wacom for drawing? i don't care about the weight or size, just looking for one with a good quality digitizer, don't have the money for a cintiq or a surface pro

>>56096047
just buy a real drawing tablet, they're a good investment

>>56094646
Same issue here, my 9 cell lasts for like 1 hour and then like 8 stuck at 6%.

considering selling my edge (yes i know it was a terrible fucking mistake) and buying X220.
my main problems with E540 is that its not portable enough and battery is not lasting long enough.
how X220 compares in performance, i need to have Windows 7 and Visual Studio 2015 on it, please dont question it, ill just say i must use it.

>>56092769
>using speccy to monitor temps
no wonder you think they're so good

thoughts on t420s?
what is a reasonable price for an used one?

>>56096472
best pad
no more than $200

What are the benefits of updating my BIOS?

I'm at 3.05, lenovo's website claims 3.22 is the latest.

>>56096590
thanks
I am trying to get one but the listings on eBay are fucking crazy, there's always this one guy rising the price to stupid levels.

>>56096374
those work on anything. even the shittiest celeron is enough for that.

>>56096725
be patient
i got mine for $150 in great condition

>>56096677
You don't need to. There's a chance you'll break it if you do, and if nothing is broken it won't help

>>56096728
>>56096374
What are the cons of X220? i mean it cant be perfect laptop, im just really worried after buying that edge that im gonna hit another landmine.
also afraid it will be sluggish.

>>56096820
i havent had any problems with it. someone might think that its too small.

>>56096820
Literally the only thing wrong with the X220 is Intel HD 3000, which is terrible for 3D graphics but fine for everything else. Other than that flawless laptopu friendo.

If you want better graphics performance, you could always get an X230 and do the keyboard mod, but you'd have to give up the full displayport for a miniDP.

>>56096858
what i want is portable laptop i can take for lectures, travelling, watch movies on it. i bought e540 because i thought id need a big powerful laptop when i move, but turned out i can take my PC with me and it takes care of all the harder tasks. also battery life is garbage, 2 hours tops.
so is there any better laptop for:
- browsing web
- watching movies
- playing old games maybe
- programming (laboratory PCs are garbage)
than X220? what about X230/X240?
what should i look out for when buying one used?

>>56096820
the iGPU is shit, however you can use an eGPU and play even the latest shit according to the gpu you use

>>56096374
What kind of E540 do you have? It scales pretty heavily, from a shitty AMD with a 1366* screen to an i7 with a FHD touchscreen.

I have both an i7 E540 and an i5 x220. If you want portability, then the x220 is a clear winner, of course. In terms of performance, it really depends on the specs of each machine.

>>56096902
Forgetting about

>1366x768
1366x768
>1366x768
1366x768
>1366x768
1366x768
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>1366x768
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1366x768

>>56097011
>12.5"

>>56096999
i7 with 1080p, 740M

bought a t430s for 150 euro (a crack in the palmrest was resaon why it was this cheap)

coming from a few Acers and other shit brands, this is heaven

how do you guys feel about buying new thinkpads
i need a laptop for college, was thinking about buying a thinkpad from amazon

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>>56096912
x220 is going to work perfectly for you. If you want crazy battery life and don't mind a little extra heft, go with the nine cell main battery and slice auxiliary battery, I get ~20 hours battery life under minimal use, 8 hours intensive, and it lasts days if I keep it in suspend when I'm not using it.

Don't even look at the x240 or upwards, they're all unsalvageable but the x240 in particular is an extreme offence. Especially if you want to use this for programming, the keyboard is going to make a huge difference. The x230 keyboard is bad, but it can be replaced with the keyboard used in the x220 and t420, and having an Ivy Bridge CPU makes it a higher spec but more expensive alternative to the x220.

Average price for either x220 or x230 used ranges from 200-300 USD, depending on model. If you run with the x220, get a model with an i7 in it, the i5 models don't have a USB3 port.

>>56097037
Okay, we're on the same boat, then. Out of interest, what do you dislike about it?

I can see why fans of classic thinkpads would dislike it - especially now that I have an x220. But it had a phenomenal price/perf ratio when I bought it. The shitty TN panel is the only thing I really dislike about it. But that might hit you on the x220 as well.

I seriously don't get all the hate towards the E540, but I was only looking for a decent consumer-grade notebook that will handle home-office dev tasks when I bought it, so maybe I simply was not expecting as much

>>56097116
One of the reasons why used thinkpads are recommended so much is that the newer ones don't really give that big of a performance boost. Sandy Bridge is good enough, and Ivy Bridge if you care about the GPU.

>>56097180
its not a total garbage laptop, i believe its much better than majority in this price segment, but its simply not what i want. my expectations of what im going to do with laptop and what i actually do are vastly different. mostly its the battery life. i thought it would be my only computer so it had to be good specs and bigger. but its not anymore, i need a portable laptop with good battery life and its not something e540 can do.

>>56097172
what should i look at when im buying one? i saw it has tons of different network cards at thinkwiki. what are some redflags?

>>56094133
inquiring about this again, how is the T500, so far Im enjoying it

>>56097172
>x230 keyboard is bad

*bad layout

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>>56096820
>>56096858
>>56096902
>>56096968
You forgot about THIS LITTLE SHIT

The trackpad on the x220 is hinged at the top, near the buttons used for the nipple. Meaning if you try to click with it anywhere above the equator it feels like the switch it just broken.

However, despite that I'd consider it the last good small form factor thinkpad. The x230 has the same issue, and later x series thinkpads get even worse. And going backwards in time the processing power starts to drop off significantly in any models that have a trackpad at all. If you need something smaller than the t420, would still recommend the x220.

>>56097366
Id use mouse most of the time anyway (E540 who wants to change it here)

>>56097307
> i need a portable laptop with good battery life and its not something e540 can do

Fair enough. Mine is still stationary, with external monitor and keyboard. I really cannot complain.

I don't think you can go wrong with the x220. Get the i5 for more battery life, go IPS if you can and make sure you put an SSD in it.

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Decided to upgrade from my W510...just waiting...

>>56097436
i was thinking about 256-512GB SSD.
is IPS much better?
is the difference between i5 and i7 in battery life much bigger?
when i mean battery ill go with the biggest one, already checked out how much it costs, i mean the fat one that sticks out.

my stationary is i5 3470 / R9 285 / 8GB / 128 SSD / 1,5 TB when you combine every HDD btw

>>56096902
its not a gaming laptop..

>>56097011
It's 12.5'' screen dump shit.

>>56092735
Is it easy to change the keyboard on a w530?

>>56097172
>x240 and up are unsalvageable
>x230 has shit keyboard
Lol you fucking cuck.
The only thing bad about the new keyboards is the layout - of which the x230 still is quite alright.
The chiclet-style - done properly, like it is on thinkpads - actually works better than the old-style keyboards - at least IMO.
x230 is the sweet spot currently, x220 is getting old(er). If you want to play the occasional casual vidya or just generally want a gpu that is a bit beefier than the x220 one - get the x230.
x220 is still fine, but if you can get an x230 for just a minute upgrade in price, go for it, fag.

>>56097702
I'm not him, but EVERY chiclet keyboard is fucking shit, and you're a faggot

>>56097702
>>56097744
E540 fag here
how is X220 vs X230 when it comes to build quality?

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so i do code stuff in visual studio- i was gonna pick up the t420 and supe that bitch up. how retarded am i? is the screen as bad as ive heard?

>>56096457
no, I actually use tpfancontrol and gpuz, cuck.

>>56097761
basically the same. x230 basically looks the same as a x220. x240 is when they started changing it up for a more "modern" look. Can't say anything about x240+ quality - never had one in hand.
>>56097744
Why? Basically, the only thing differentiating the x230 keyboard from the x220 keyboard is the caps on the keys - the underlying mechanism is literally the same. Trust me, I've repaired multiple *20 and *30 series dankpads.
The thing that makes the chiclet style of the x230 superior is two things: 1 - it's easier to clean because of a 'straighter' design. 2 - it's easier to type because of that same straight design. What was previously lost to 'drop-off' to emulate the look of a more old-school keyboard is now more key real estate.
Of course, on a desktop I'd never use a chiclet (other than one of those tasty thinkpad-desktop keyboards maybe) - but for a laptop, it's just perfect. Also backlight.

Might even get an x260/T460s soon because hueg discounts. I'll see how shit they have gotten.

>>56097862
is it worth paying 30-40% for a X230? i just searched prices and thats what id have to pay for i7 X230 compared to i7 X220

>>56097345
I had one. The best thing was the screen.
The worst part was it being heavy.

>>56097899
Why would you want an i7?
What tasks will you do with your dankpad, with what OS?

>>56096472
Shit battery life
Shit screen

>>56097928
Windows 7 / programming in Visual Studio

>>56097366
They shouldn't have put a trackpad on X220/X230 at all. I wish there was a custom palmrest without a trackpad.

What the fuck were they thinking?

>>56097960
i5 is more than enough.
IMO it's worth paying around 20-30% more on an x230, especially if it's pretty 'maxed' as in IPS, backlit keyboard. x230 also should come with SSDs more often as that became a more popular option when they were sold.
Americuck or Yuromaster?

>>56098008
Poland

>>56097926
I don't mind it being heavy as it will sit on my desk or lap most of its life. I do like the screen but getting the non-free ATI drivers to work with X are a bitch.

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I'm marvelled with all the stuff my T430 is capable of running!

Seriously, this laptop is the shit, best purchase I've ever made.

>>56098066
>gta 3 - 5
>postal 2
>simpsons fucking bideogaem
>windows 7
>JDownloader

Holy fuck you're a living meme.

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>>56097035
>>56097601

t. deluded 1366x768 cucks

X201s had 1440x900

>>56098126
I kept the windows hdd that came with it so I could play my favourite games, problem?

Also, jdownloader is the best downloader. Prove me wrong.

>>56097960
Core i7 in the X220 and X230 are not quad cores, but dual cores, the same as the Core i5, so the performance boost isn't that big, compared to getting a mobile quad core i7.

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>>56097761

>>56098178
so what would be the best option for me? i just dont want it to be sluggish and it would be cool if it was future proof
req. >>56096912
maybe i should go with X230 if the only difference is keyboard and better cpus.
something with i5, intel gpu 4000, ips.
i actually liked the keyboard in e540 so if its the same its not even a problem.

>>56098206
X230 doesnt have that?

>>56098137
>caring about 1366x768 on a cheapo 12.5" laptop
Of course, on a 14"/15.6" 768 starts getting very shitty, but on 12.5 it's still acceptable imo. Of course I'd prefer FHD, but 768 werks and uses less resources&battery than FHD.
12.5" 768 is 125PPI
14" FHD is 157PPI
24" FHD (common desktop resolution if you aren't 1440p yet) is 92PPI
24" 1440p is 122PPI

Basically, 12.5" 768 has the same PPI as 24" 1440p.
You don't fucking NEED FHD on a 12.5".

>>56098221
that lid thing is just a meme.
That won't happen unless you literally park a car on it, then let it drive over the dankpad 10 times - or you drop it 50 times from 2 metres.
The lid is made out of magnesium - that little strip is plastic for the antennae.

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Would the W520 (the one with Intel integrated graphics, not Nvidia) be able to do 3D CAD software at least to the point where it's usable?

>>56098233
>cheapo 12.5" laptop

Hint: it certainly wasn't cheap when it was new

>>56098660
>W520 (the one with Intel integrated graphics, not Nvidia)
This doesn't exist, all W520s have dedicated Quadro GPUs. If you mean the T520 with integrated graphics, it probably can't. HD 3000 is fine for basically everything except 3D. Give it a try if you already have one since I don't know for sure, but if not just find a dedicated graphics model. Even the Nvidia T520s aren't very powerful though, NVS 4200m is a weak little GPU. The W520's Quadros are what you want for stronk grafics power.

>>56098066
I'm really surprised with my T420 too.

I've thrown a lot at this thing over the week and it's only disappointed twice, once with Paper Mario emulation (which is harder to do than other NGC/Wii games apparently) and installing the C++ Redistributable Packages and any programs that require them, which is partially my fault because I've been too lazy to update past SP1.

>>56098737
Sheeeit have I been chink'd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8A13T40197
I haven't bought it yet so there's that

>>56098882

wtf use ebay bro, that shit cost $200 more than I payed for mine.

>>56098882
I would guess that it is a W520 and they just couldn't find out which graphics card it had, probably just ran dxdiag or something that wouldn't report the dedicated GPU. Still, I wouldn't bother with that listing, given that they don't specify screen resolution, which Quadro it has, and there are only stock photos shown. Even if it is a decent configuration, $500 is too much. I got my 2720qm/Q1000m/FHD W520 for $395 from Ebay, and it came in perfect shape with an SSD and the 170W adapter.

>>56098924
Alright; may sound pathetic but I've never used eBay for anything. Are there things I should look out for in the way of misinformation or scams

I'm running a thinkpad T420 with Windows 10 and my DVD drive isn't detecting disks

Device Manager says the drivers are up to date and My Computer shows a DVD drive, but when I put a disc in, it whirrs for a second and then stops; clicking on the DVD drive in my computers says there's no disk installed

>>56099019
Been using ebay for years and never been scammed. Just make sure you read and base your purchase off descriptions not titles, also if it's expensive I tend to only buy from listings that have actual pictures and not a stock photo. Make sure you pay using paypal and you really shouldn't have anything to worry about,

>>56099019
if they ask you to pay outside of paypal it's a scam

find a seller with a return policy or moneyback guarantee, they're required to follow through on it

>>56099070
Replace it with a hard drive cadi

>>56099104
Shit.

What's a good thinkpad replacement for a toshiba satellite p745?

Current specs are as follows.
>i3-2350m
>6gb ddr 2 ram, 600mhz
>750gb hdd
>1366x768 glossy
>one hdmi
>one usb 3
>one vga

I just need something better, weight isn't a big deal but I'd prefer something around 14"

>>56099125
i need to burn a CD for my car though

>>56099129

T420/T430

New to 'ink 'ads
Any difference between the T460 and the T460s, besides the S being lighter and thinner?

>>56099175
This model looks like what I want and need anon, thanks.

Am I right in thinking I can have the screen replaced to a higher resolution one?

>>56098221
>>56098278

Early X220 lids had a manufacturing flaw.

Thoughts on the gen 4 x1 carbons?

General questions about laptops here, relevant because thinkpads tend to be second handed.

Should I use them plugged in most of the time when possible or should I have them unplugged until near drained even when using them at a desk at home?

>>56099793
>using them at a desk at home
Why not take out the battery?

>>56099828
Depending on which model you have and which power supply you're using with it, doing that could cause it to throttle the CPU.

Just use Lenovo Power Manager or TLP to set battery charge thresholds so it doesn't charge over 80%.

>>56099856
Shit I didn't know that. I have a 65w psu but my x220 seems to work normally. According to the wiki, it should throttle without the battery. Is that outdated information?

>>56099793
leave it plugged in
your battery is going to die at about the same time no matter what, might as well enjoy the time you have with it.
also remember it's heat that kills batteries the most, not charge cycles. so letting it go from 0-100 can actually be worse than just letting the battery do it's thing.

/g/ help.

I bought a t510 with the following specs.

-i7 620M
-Nvidia nvs 3100M
-8gb DDR3 RAM
-500GB HD - I'm upgrading this to a 240gb Sandisk SSD and adding an ultrabay drive so I can use an HDD/SSD combo.

I am using the following programs for my post grad school.

-MySQL Server
-MySQL Workbench
-Tableau
-Pentaho Kettle ETL
-SQL Server Express/SQL Server
-SQL Server Database (AdventureWorks OLTP and DW)
-SAS

Will I be okay???

>>56100731
Or should I get a w520**

>>56100731
>>56100772
yeah you should be just fine
especially if this is just for testing, and not actual real world use.

>>56100880
The data sets and application would be real world use. But thanks for the reply friend!

>>56099377
A couple things. Let me break it down for you.

T460
>heavier
>enables hot-swap feature due to second battery chassis, meaning you can switch out the back battery while the machine is running
>you can also upgrade the back battery to a 72Whr one, which sticks out of the bottom of the case by like half an inch or so, but gives you stupidly long battery life.
>Old school 2.1mm key travel plus usual trackpoint
>plastic screen casing, 1336p or 1080p options
>9mm SATA3 SSD or HD option

T460s
>ligher
>No hot-swap, you have to take off the back to replace the battery, so no carrying extra batteries or getting an extra big one
>That said, taking off the back is way less of a pain in the ass than the T460, which has a bunch of tiny plastic clips to potentially break as you take it off. T460s takes a couple screws and you're good to go
>Newer 1.8mm key travel, plus shorter trackpoint. Some people on leddit hate the new trackpoint, but I think it's fine (same on the T460p, which I'm currently typing on). Key travel and response is still amazing compared to any other laptop you can buy today, so no complaints on the .3mm reduction from me.
>carbon fiber(so stronger and thinner) screen casing, 1080p or 1440p options.
>Stupidly fast read/write times with the NVMe SSD. Not much of a practical difference in day to day use with SATA3, but hey, could come in handy in the future.

Any other questions you have?

I saw a really nice dell latitude in a pawn shop today but I forgot the model name. It had a 1440x900 screen, pointing stick with 3 dedicated buttons, and an I5. Any heads up what could be the model name?

>>56101108
>1440x900 screen, pointing stick with 3 dedicated buttons, and an I5

Sorry man, you just described like 30% of Latitudes that Dell made. Unless you have more details, just find the number tomorrow.

>>56101175
It was a Sandy bridge

I'm looking for a snappy laptop to use office, watch anime and maybe emulate some old games (NES, SNES, whatever)
Would a T420 fit the bill?
There's a whole bunch of refurbished ones on newegg for $299 CAD.

>>56101281
a T420 would be fine, an SSD is a must though

"refurbished" doesn't really mean anything

>>56101281
The 2520m handles 10bit bdrip cartoons with mpc-hc + madvr just fine, so yeah.

is it normal for a refurbished t420 with a 9-cell to last max 5 hours? it says the battery health is good, but people say theirs lasts 7+ hours so i don't know

>>56101313
>"refurbished" doesn't really mean anything
so they're just used. should I expect screen scratches?
Also, I can't find any with SSDs onboard. Does it make that much of a difference?
Is it more expensive to buy the upgrade separately later on?

>>56101315
Good to hear, thanks anon

What are your recommended HDD/SDD caddies? I need help

>>56090235
what does the button to the left of the mic mute on the t430s do? i bought one but can't figure out what it does, thanks guys

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Quick! What Linux Distro should I install in my new T410?

I can emulate PS2 games at 60fps on my T420, but I can't even push past 20 with NGC/Wii games. Does anyone have a settings list for Dolphin that'll help?

>>56102074
DouDou

>>56099828
>>56099856
>>56100630
Thanks for the advice my dudes. It's a pretty warm day so I think I'll take out the battery and put it somewhere cooler for the time being.

>>56098126
>calling JDownloader shit
Can you fucking not?

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Hello /tpg/. I recently performed some sexual favors at work and received a spare memepad T430 for personal use. Probably not going to use it as a main laptop because I have others and prefer more portable notebooks. Also not going to sell it because it is company branded.

What distro should I install? I installed mint because I happened to have it on a thumb drive, but I'm open to other options.

Pic related.

>>56102346
Did you swallow like a good boy?

>>56098177
>>56102204
>using downloaders
What is this, 1997?

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>>56102368
Propose a better way to download shit off mega and other websites.

>>56102585
Clicking the download link on the webpage.

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>>56102625
>clicking each link individually
>not just selecting the links and JD with automatically pasted them
Stop breathing, my man.

>>56102663
>dat engrish
As expected, some third world shitter.

are the thingpad yogas legit?

thinking about buying since it has touch screen and I've gotten used to it due to using a surface for a while now.

Which distros do you install on yout thinkpads? Do you find support for every part of it? Can you use the latest kernel?

I'm targeting a X200 for maximum portability, and I already own a macbook (aw man) and:

>only arch distros go with kernel 4 the others freeze on startup
>kernel 3 is old and insecure
>Latest mesa3D openGL 4.0 implementation messes up with my GPU

I'd like to have one of this, but I expect good linux support. I may actually use libreboot and trisquel for maximum freedums, but only when I fancy opening it.

Also, I have a x200 on sight for 150€. Is it a good price?

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Did I fuck up?

>>56103014
Nope, good job anon. If they're both in working order, you'll be more than happy.

>>56103014
Do they come with batteries and chargers?

>>56103014
The fuck? You absolutely killed it anon. Two great laptops for that price? You did good pham

I have the opportunity to get a w510 for relatively cheap at my work. The only thing i would need to do is switch out the hdd for an ssd and maybe replace the battery. I can grab it for about $175. Should I go for it? I want the T430 but I can get the w510 and ssd as early as tomorrow afternoon.

>>56103039
>>56103041
>>56103103
They have batteries, but no ac adapters. Those are like $7 though so it's no big deal.

Thanks for the confirmation, for a second it felt too good to be true

On 10/3/2012 I got a ThinkPad Edge E430 for 439.99, its still kickin ass and the only problem I have is explorer.exe exploding in memory size the longer I keep it on. I hate new "laptops." I never knew this general existed and I'm pretty fucking happy. Am I in the right place?

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Why the fuck did I buy a T510
I don't need all that

>>56092769
>windows 10
>chrome
Why are you here

What do you use the thinkvantage button for?

I made it open mpv and play a little jingle.

>>56102074
>tape on webcam
10/10

>>56103713
shred -vn 3 /dev/sd1

>>56093026
deploy low orbit space station

>>56103713
Open terminal

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Just got a T430 off of eBay, does anyone know what this sticker is? It's on the lid of the laptop.

>>56103713
I want to make it open foobar but it shits itself after opening.

>>56104073
Corporate or leasing company asset tag. Just remove it. It doesn't mean anything.

>>56103461
>edge
Lets be easy everyone.

I have no clue about the explorer.exe RAM issue...

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>>56103014
xsauc approves :3

>>56102346
Just went from Mint 17 to LXLE Desktop on my T430s.
My problem with mint was that it couldn't read my 64GB SD Card. Kicked ass though, I haven't tested it on the LXLE system yet but... I like it so far.

>>56101196
Probably an E6410.

What's the best thinkpad for college? I'm probably just going to do light gaming with it, nothing strenuous. Preferably with a good resolution display.

>>56104462
t420 900p

>>56104462
Also, should I buy used?

If I were to get a used x60 would I be able to just put in an ssd into the 2.5 inch sata slot? What mm size would I need for that?

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>>56090342
I planned to use the hard drive it came with in the optical drive caddy, but I don't need the storage space so fuck that spinning noise.

>>56101354
I would say mine with a 9 cell is max 5 hours with average internet browsing and it gets lower if I run gaymes, but if I lower the brightness all the way and leave it idle doing nothing most of the time it can last 8-9 hours. Whenever companies brag about battery life they are always lowering the brightness and leaving it idle to get those times, so don't feel bad if you can't reach over 5 hours with your regular computer activities, just remember to lower brightness and close the lid whenever you leave the laptop.

>>56104382
>edge

sorry didn't mean to upset anyone

>>56104472
Yes you can get them used off corporate lease still under warranty.

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is the site broken, or is it possible to spend $11k on a laptop.

>>56104938
>HQ i7
>64GB RAM
>Quadro

>4K IPS panel
This alone leaves it on 8000+.

X220 vs X230?
lets say i don't really care about the keyboard, are there any reasons to pick X220 over X230 in such case?

>>56105290
not really

>>56090342
>x220
Samsung 850 EVO 500gb

It's more than enough

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>>56104599
7mm and 9.5mm are both fine.

>>56103713

xset dpms force off

>>56090342
>Samsung 850 EVO MZ-M5E500BW mSATA

>look at same picture on desktop and thinkpad
>colors are completely different
is there anyway to make the thinkpad screen less washed out?

>>56090342
I've lived by Crucial for years. Samsung has some nice stuff too but I've had to RMA an 850 Evo recently, so I'm not the best guy to ask about their stuff.

>>56105842
Dont use a TN panel.

>>56098838
I've been trying to update it further, but as soon as the SP1 was applied, the update tool just keeps checking for updates.

>>56102204
>>56102585
>>56102663
Thank you, I knew I couldn't possibly be the only one to see how useful is jdownloader.

>>56090235
does anyone have a link to that alienware 14" screen that will work on the t420?

how hard is it to clean up thinkpads? many i see used stckers/stratches on the back

>>56104938
LOL
the 4k ips in a laptop good one kiddo
or you are too young for 4chan or you are too stupid for /g/

>>56097172
>20hours of use
>8hours of use
how long does it take to fully charge?

>>56105290
The x230 keyboards are actually superior to the old ones. I almost fell for the old keyboard meme, but fortunately I went to a shop where I could try all the models for myself. I was surprised at how shit the x220 keyboards are. Sure, the layout might be better, but its not worth it. The backlight is also super nice.

>>56106357
>stickers
fairly easy, just peel them off, and I usually give the back a good rub down with hand sanitizer.
then just kinda use the machine for a few weeks and all the residue should be gone, and it should look normal.
>scratches
pretty much impossible, but if it's a deep scratch i've found that going over the scratch with a fine tip sharpie, then rubbing the area with my finger can make it look better (if done properly).
It's too hard to describe how to do it properly to others so I wouldn't recommend trying unless you go slow and use very little.
>>56106525
does the X230 have the think light? or did they get rid of it for the xx30 series?
because I absolutely love the think light on my t420 and I use it all the time at night.

>>56106549
Yes. It's the only model that has both thinklight and backlit keyboard, I think.

Does the x220t support coreboot? Would I lose functionally in the wacom digitizer?

What distro should I put on the x200 I just got?

>>56106615
runescape

>>56106615
Windows 8.1

>>56106357
Mr clean magic eraser does wonders.
Is used in consoles so it should work on thinkpads.

Thoughts?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/LENOVO-T410-Notebook-2-5GHz-Intel-i5-8GB-RAM-New-Battery/272338700030

>>56107261
I can't read that shit, but you'll likely want a new battery.

>>56107300
>What is google translate
The laptop comes with a 2 month old battery

>>56107261
I'd say it doesn't look bad for an EU listing. Go for it!

>>56107300
>neuer Akku
Means new battery. He sounds like someone who treats his ThinkPad good.

>>56107370
I think I will do it.

>>56107389
In a couple of hours there will be a rush of ameritards that will tell you just how overpriced was the laptop. Ignore them, we cannot match their prices.

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>>56107404
I am always informed when the Americans will come. :)

Generally question: Are ThinkPads a meme? I want a Notebook wich isn't slow while lurking (with Linux) and is able to run VMs, also with Linux (that's why I want 8GB). I don't want to play games, but it should be able to play .mkvs and browsing on Youtube with HD videos. So, is a ThinkPad for 200€ enough? (I am new to ThinkPads obviously.)

>>56107477
What I can tell you is that I bought a T61 for 120€ a year ago, because I had to get a laptop fast and had no money, and it worked, it was a bit slow, but still works like a charm.
Recently I bought a T430 for 300€ and it is the best laptop I've ever owned, it handles everything I threw at it, even GTA V (with the 1GB Nvidia card, only 6GB RAM and no SSD).

whats the average lifespan of X230?

>>56107525

Currently ongoing as long as you're not careless. I wouldn't expect a 30 series thinkpad to go obsolete for a while unless they change the way cpu are made. Cpu power has been plateauing since about Sandybridge.

>>56107583
how many years it should be good for fast internet browsing and programming? granted ill put an SSD inside.

>>56107525
Forever desu

>>56107608
More than most brands, that's for sure.

>>56107608
My current plan is to use my X230 for that purpose until 2019. This is based on how long I used a X201 for that and the build quality seems very similar.

I'm more careful with this one though and given how CPUs are developing my X230 might make it past 2020.

13-14", battery at least 2 hours under stress, durable, would be cool if i could play some low req. games, used for projects and programming, what kind of laptop could you recommend me?

>>56106225
Jesus christ same. I can't even use any of the "fixes" mods on other forms link to, like the Standalone Updater or anything.

It hung on "Checking for updates on computer" for something like 8 hours only to be told that "this update is unavailable for your system" or whatever. Thinking of just doing a clean install and hoping it resolves the issues.

>>56107700
T420 or T430

>>56107700
Fall for the T420 meme

>>56107701
I've tried several things too and none worked so far. I've read somewhere that microsoft is giving win7 updates less priority, so win10 updates faster. Don't know if it's true, though.

THEY'RE NOW SELLING THE 13.3" MODDED X220 ONLY 16:

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4xyxmt/51nbs_x320x330_coming_available_today_thread_4/

>>56108049
no modkits :/
But it's a lot cheaper than I thought

I need a fast advice please. Is R51e a good model? I have a chance to buy it for like $20.

>http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:R51e

>>56108245
They should pay you to take it out of their hands.

>>56108261
ouch, that bad huh?

>>56108273
Pentium M CPU? Come on...that thing is severely outdated. I would only pick it up if I were collecting.

Need think pad for Debian. Will be doing web design so about 8gb ram at the upper limit, also maybe watching videos with a media player.

What models and price range are good for these purposes without getting into Reddit Alienware territory?

>>56108355
I'd say a T420/T430 would suit your needs.

>>56108366
How much should I expect to pay? I see prices from $120 used all the way to $700 which is rediculous.

Am I wrong for expecting a good laptop for the price of a phone? Definitely can't spend more than $500 on the meme machine.

4gb ram would be fine I suppose, I will look into the refurbished guide.

>>56108438

>>56090235
>Used ThinkPad buyers guide:
>http://ktgee.net/tpg

>>56108491
Yes that's what I'm reading sorry

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>>56090235
Is the ThinkPad yoga 14 from best buy worth it?


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-2-in-1-14-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/4456400.p?skuId=4456400

>/tpg/
>muh Superfish

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> $159.99 REFURBISHED
> Storage 160 Gb HDD
This is sold without operating system, battery, and hard drive!

>>56107495
I really want a ThinkPad. But this, for example, has better specs and cost 25€ less...hard decision.
http://www.ebay.de/itm/HP-ProBook/361650014220

I'll wait and look for good offers. Looking for new hardware is the best part anyway.

>>56108774
You get what you pay for.
From my experience, HP is the shittiest laptop manufacturer of the history of computing. Even Acer build better laptops.

so the buyers guide details what to look for in a brick and mortar purchase

> tips for not getting gyped online?
The one I'm looking at now has capacity listed at 320gb yet HDD in title is 250gb. Do they just mean the t420 is only rated upwards of holding 320gb?

I might purchase it if it's in very good condition and comes with peripherals.

Anything wrong with a... I think it was a T530 with a dedi nvidia? Looking for a thinkpad with at least 12GB (16 preferred) RAM support, and a dedicated GPU.

>>56108811
You could probably buy a cheap gpu and run it on the outside if you desired to have autism like me.

if I found a listed Thinkpad on a reputable site for the listed auction "buy now" price it's a no brainier to purchase right?

Do you think I need to replace the battery? It's under warranty to hold one charge but it's dubious how long they consider that to be.

whats the difference between T430 and T420?

>>56108967
Better CPU
Better GPU

>>56108967
t430 is better in every way but also more expensive?

Bought x220 with the TN screen for cheap

See this:
https://www.amazon.com/Thinkpad-X220-Lp125wh2-Replacement-Substitute/dp/B005CV9KS0

haven't done anything above replacing a laptop hard drive.

should I try to install it myself? How much would I pay a tech to do it?

>>56109001
It's piss easy to do yourself, at least compared to how tedious it can get on other notebooks.

Just look at this video. You can do it yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcaMFkd_xSY

>>56108114
keep in mind that's without ram or a hard drive. and that battery is likely garbage so I'd add like $150-200 to that price... At that point I'd rather buy a used XPS 13

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>>56109028

>>56109001
>>56109028
Next question, which 12.5 IPS to buy?


04W3462 or. LP125WH2-(SL) (B1)

>>56108756
https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/product_security/superfish
>This advisory only applies to Lenovo Notebook products.

>>56108985
>>56108967

T420 pros:
>better keyboard layout
>DankPad (tm)
>cheaper
>no modding needed for chink batteries

T430 pros:
>better CPU
>better iGPU
>better dGPU
>USB 3 in all models
>backlit keyboard
>higher ram clock
>can be modded to use T420 keyboard

I forget which one had better default screen.

There is nothing wrong with T430 keyboard typing experience but some prefer the old layout and looks.

>>56109001
>>56109028
>>56109115
or...
https://www.amazon.com/IBM-Lenovo-04W3919-12-5-Display-Screen/dp/B00I4BOHQ0

>>56108820
Hoping for something that has it built in, so I can use the laptop for shool, primarily, but also for gaming if I go on trips, or at LAN parties, as examples.

>>56109167
Money = better as far as gaymen laptops go unless you're playing pre 2004 games.

>>56109001
>>56109028
>>56109073
>>56109115
>>56109146

It seems like there are three options, with different opinions on which is newer/better

Lp125wh2(sl)(b1)
04W3919
04W3462 -SLT1

consensus is the first one is the worst, inconclusive between the other two. What the hell is the difference?

>>56109118
I never understood the appeal for a backlit keyboard.

to each his own i guess

>>56109263
I have the ms sidewinder x4 on my desktop and I just turn the backlights off. Literally only used them when I was 14 and it's such a distraction. I'd rather have proper switches.

>>56109263
Not all T430 laptops have backlit keyboards, in fact, most of them don't have this. Mine doesn't.

bah! Humbug!

Do I spend the extra ~$20 now to get 2 gb extra ram? Probably, fuck.

>>56109263
I agree. It's pretty useless if you know how to touch type.

>>56109372
I thought they all had it but I guess I just haven't seen one without backlight. Good to know.

>Lenovo T410
>1.280 x 800

Can't imagine that this is enough. Other /tpg/ approved cheap models with better resolution?

>>56109526
t420 900p

Self bumping >>56102854 (also reading OP I saw that 150€ is unacceptable for a X200) with another question:

Is there any libre distro that doesn't look like complete shit? Why don't they keep up with the rest of DE? Is it a matter of performance or freedom?

if IBM was so great why did it go bankrupt and sold out to ""chinkshit"" lenovo?

>>56109806
protip: they didn't

>>56109532
I really consider buying one. But there are some questions. Is streaming Youtube videos in HD a problem (does it come to its performance limit)? Is the fan loud? How long lasts a new bought battery when lurking around?
Would you describe it as "heavy"? Are there driver problems with Linux?

>>56110158
>Is streaming Youtube videos in HD a problem (does it come to its performance limit)?
I don't know but the i5 2520m could handle my autismal 10bit chinese cartoons with mpc-hc + madvr.

>Is the fan loud?
Subjective but not for me unless it's working with a heavy load.

>How long lasts a new bought battery when lurking around?
Dunno, i still keep the 9-cell that came with the laptop because it's enough for me.

>Would you describe it as "heavy"?
Subjective again, not for me.

>Are there driver problems with Linux?
Dunno i use Win7.

Just started uni and i need a laptop to use on my commute and lectures, currently looking at the E460 vs the L460. Specs look about the same, what's the difference between them except the price? Or should i flat out just buy a different laptop? Will mainly be using it for typical uni stuff i.e programming and taking notes, wouldn't mind being able to do dailies in WoW too (muh top 100 raiding).

>>56109806
>IBM
>Bankrupt

No. They are one of the biggest tech companies in the world, they just stopped making consumer electronics is all.

>>56110364
dont do this, buy T420/T430/X220/X230.
i bought Edge too (E540) for my uni and i regret.
im in process of selling it and buying X230.
build quality is mediocore and battery life is shit.
also my one had uneven hinges and lenovo refused to repair that because plastics and casings dont fall under warranty.

What's a good way to sell my T510 and what would be a fair asking price? It's got the NVS 3100, 6gb RAM, HD+ and a hybrid drive

Just got an X230 and I have an X220 keyboard to install to it.

Is it worth letting the X220 keyboard to short circuit itself without covering the two pins?

According to ThinkWiki:
>Some people have done the keyboard replacement without this protective mod - and not reported any issues, even after years of use.


>Further investigations on three keyboards shows that the over-current condition described above quickly lead to the same failure each time - a small burnout on the keyboard just after the retaining bar
>This burnout has had the effect of removing the short circuit and stopping any other issues.

>>56109249
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/4xivtt/x230_lp125wh2slt1_display_replacement/

>>56110158
>Are there driver problems with Linux?
No. Red Hat devs use Thinkpads, so they're always the most linux friendly machines.

>Would you describe it as "heavy"?
My T430 weighs next to nothing, but it's subjective, of course.

I can't really answer the rest, as I don't have a T420.

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>>56110866

>>56110605
I ran mine for several months without covering any pins. I eventually did the EC flash (which honestly I'm not sure fixes the short situation or not). Still going strong.

>>56104653
>shitgate 250gb hdd
>not getting samsung m9t 2TB hdd for $50
kys

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>>56105537
>x230 with egpu
would not recommend