AMD Hate thread? AMD Hate thread. So far the Radeon RX Series

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>AMD is shit
boo fucking hoo
I notice AMDfags whining about their buyers remorse on /g/ all the time and its shitting this fucking board up. Just get a fucking job and buy a new computer.

>>56033433
>hating a company so much that you need to dedicate time in order to tell other people how much you hate it

Wow anon your life must be exciting,jesus man just go watch porn or something.

>>56033433
there are many AMD hate threads, they are this way: >>>/v/

I don't even know how to process the number of logical fallacies you presented here OP. But you routinely projected your opinions as fact.

So really what you're asking for is a reason to justify your opinions.

AMD is the only card that sell in the mass market that's primed to make the most use of all the new APIs. From Direct X 12, to Vulkan, to Metal. AMD routinely gives you more graphics card for the money.

Packing in MUCH higher compute and double precision in the RX 480 then the 980ti.

AMD is for people who want to get shit done. Who also happens to be competitive in everything else.

>>56033694
>AMD is for people who want to get shit done. Who also happens to be competitive in everything else.

Name one thing AMD is used for that isn't cheap(and buggy as fuck) computer gaming and buttcoin mining

Nvidia is better for workstations
Nvidia is better for deep learning
Nvidia is better for high end gaming

>>56033694
>>56033740
AMD is better for FP64 when you arent willing to pay 3k+ more for 8/10 the speed.

>>56033433
Yes my friend! I have been saying this for many years now. AMD is the brand for the poo in loo Indian. I buy premium Nvidia graphics card and all my games run so smooth. AMD poor owners will never know this feeling.

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>>56033433

Amen. AMD is such a fucking shit company. I can't wait until they go bankrupt.

>>56033433
Fuck off, Linus.

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>>56033433

>>56033817
You want a monopoly? Idiot.

I hated Nvidia, and I still do, but AMD literally did the exact same thing Nvidia did with the 970, they knowingly LIED to us.

>$200 guys we swear!
>seriously $200 guys this is a big selling point

Turns out $200 was a meme, they had no intention of releasing all but a very very few amount of 4GB reference models (which were just bios modded 8GB models kek), so they 100% lied. Instead we get 4GB 470s for $200. Fucking lmao. AMD is pathetic. I know miners are ruining AMD yet again but they could at least hold up their end up the fucking bargain and give us that $200 we were promised. As far as I'm concerned AMD are shitting on their customers just like Nvidia and they can get bought out like the bitches they are for all I care.

I am upset.

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>>56033867

>>56033844
>>56033466
OP here. Haven't actually used a AMD gpu for a while, I was planning on getting the RX 470 and then after that letdown the RX 460. Now I am hoping for a good GTX 1050/950 Ti since this disaster.

>>56033510
Driving to visit parents for the weekend, and stopping at Burger King for a dinner break. Do you honestly expect me to either fap in the filthy fast food stalls or fap and drive when I get back on the road?

>>56033624
/v/ is a shithole. I've never been on there and never plan to.

>With the announcement the RX 490 was a dual gpu

Source?

>>56033433
> I will not feel sad if they go out of buisness and Nvidia controlls the market,

OP, I'm sorry but you're an idiot. If Nvidia is the only manufacturer, they'll have the power to overprice their cards and they will have no motivation to improve their hardware substantially from year to year.

The GPU market needs MORE competition for us consumers to win.
If AMD could step their game up, then Nvidia would have to improve their offerings in both performance and price.

What we really need is the ATi/AMD of the early 2000s. The AMD Athlon XP 1800+ and ATi Radeon 9800 type products.

>>56034145
AMD is not a competitor. Much better for them to die completely and have the government break up Nvidia due to monopoly laws.

>>56034145
If AMD goes bankrupt they'll get bought and hopefully made into actual competition. Seriously AMD is so fucking incompetent it's actually funny. Shit is pathological.

>>56034145

Then you better hope Zen is as monstrous as leaks are claiming.

That's the only way for them to start moving up.

>>56034145
Nintenso had a monopoly and they did just fine. And when SEGA felt they had too much power they easily stepped in.

>>56034302
>that shitty shop
> black outlines
> missing black and shadow on arm and cuff
> obvious FB account hack
> Smells of linux butthurt

>linuxed based systems lost a mobo dew to drivers

>this shit again

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

>>56033433

I agree that Polaris has been disappointing, but it wasn't *that* bad.

>The RX 480 was ok, but was made pointless by the better 1060.
The 1060 performing better now, but it's, but also pricier. There is some evidence that as next-gen APIs become more prevalent, the 480 will start to pull ahead.

>The RX 470 had almost no difference in specs, price, or performance from the 480
Yes, it seems that the 470 has cannibalized the reference 480, but no one should be buying a reference AMD card anyway. A 480 with a nice cooler and a factory overclock will still beat a jumped-up 470.

>what we got was almost EXACTLY LIKE A GTX 950
Noticeably cheaper than the 950 though.

>With the announcement the RX 490 was a dual gpu
Yeah, this was a horrible decision on AMD's part. If they did it in 2018 it would've been a great decision. But there still aren't enough games that use next-gen APIs, and Crossfire is still a colossal piece of shit.

Overall, still not a great time to buy a graphics card from either manufacturer. In a couple months prices will stabilize and everything will actually be in stock.

>please remember that a AMD cpu will probably not be better than a mid-high end Intel cpu like the i5-4670k.

http://wccftech.com/amd-zen-es-benchmarks/
A Summit Ridge engineering sample handily outbenchmarks the 4670k, and final clock speeds are going to be higher than these engineering samples. Yes, a game benchmark isn't the same as an isolating CPU benchmark, but if anything, an isolating CPU benchmark would show *more* difference.

>>56033899
They are still a company not a charity, and even in this price they still undercut the competition, forcing them to keep low price and still sold all of their stock.

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mt r9 270x just broke for no reason and was a fairly common problem with the card that amd refused to respond to. was gonna get the rx480 but fuck those cunts imma get the 1060

>>56033433
lmao enjoy your overpriced chips and yearly socket changes.

>>56034856
As someone who just RMA's a 470, I want to remind you that everything you said regarding performance is Windows only. Once you jump into Linux the 470 and 480 are outclassed by the last 4 generations of Nvidia cards, and just forget using AMD GPUs if you're not on Ubuntu.

I fired up Dying Light hoping to see a massive boost over my GTX660 and was shocked to see it changed the graphics settings to low and had a barely usable frame rate, and that was a fresh install of Lubuntu with the newest amdgpu-pro. Same story with ARK, Shadow Warrior, WoG, and every other game I currently own.

"wasn't *that* bad" really was "*that*" bad. I am severely disappointed. It took less than an hour to convince me to stick to AMD processors only.

>>56033433
Where dafuq are you guys seeing the rx 490 is dual GPU? We got vega coming with in 2 quarters and like polaris we're gonna see two seperate chips each with cuts.

>>56035441
They saw it in a shitposting thread on /g/ so it's fact now.

>>56035441
Its a wccftech rumor, someone posted a shooped picture of a Radeon Pro Duo and everyone believed it really was an RX 490.
Now retards won't stop talking about it.

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>>56033433
Can you just give it a break lad? You buy a GPU to suit your fucking needs. If AMD is better for your needs, buy it. If you need Nvidia, then fucking buy it. It's that simple. The RX 480 for it's price will suit a lot of peoples needs right now, I mean to go higher end with a 1070 or 1080 most folks don't see the point unless you've fallen for the 1440P meme or simply need more performance for some reason.

>>56035401
Hmm, I actually plan on using an AMD card on Linux, because I'm sick of proprietary drivers. Did you try the regular Gallium drivers as well, or did you only try the Pro stack?

These benchmarks show The 470 and 480 trading blows with the GTX 960 on their open source drivers, which isn't great, but it'll be good enough for me.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd-rx460-rx470&num=3

>>56035556
I went only with the pro stack. By the time I broke down and pulled a copy of Lubuntu I had gone been on google for about 2 hours trying to find a hack to make the drivers work on Fedora.

By the time I got lubuntu going on an old SSD my process was
>get OS running
>install amd drivers from
>play games
>hope it's worth changing distros

If those benchmarks are accurate, the Gallium drivers offer 3x to 4x the performance of the Pro stack right now.

i dunno man im kinda enjoying my rx 480

i dunno man im kinda enjoying my rx 480 yo

>>56033902
Nvidiots can only post in memes, I am genuinely not surprised.

>>56035736
Yeah the Pro stack is mostly aimed at CAD applications from what I can tell. The big selling point of it is legacy context support, which Mesa doesn't offer. (Means you can mix legacy OpenGL 2.x and 1.x calls with OpenGL 3.3+ calls, which some CAD software requires.) Also, the Pro stack is currently required for Vulkan.

Phoronix is promising some Pro vs Gallium benchmarks soon, so we'll know soon enough.

>>56035853
Sorry, compatibility context*

>>56034219
Like how rx 480 was supposed to be a monster card for cheap price? Insted we got an nvidia or higher priced card that burned itself, when will you amd autists learn that IN THE FUTURE argument is retarded

>>56035802
They can post facts and information but you amd autists like the retardes kis that put his hand on his ear and shouts so he cant hear the outside world

>>56035926

This is what happens when you just post blind seething hatred. Because it clouds critical thinking and decision making skills.

>>56035957

>Cherry picked data from dishonest shills
>Why aren't you autists believing our bullshit? Why!?

>>56035853
Between gallium3d, mesa, amdgpu, and amdgpu-pro, I also got frustrated at not knowing what to install. I stared at my terminal a lot. I searched DNF for "gallium, amd, radeon, amdgpu" and just got a whole lot of nothing. I contemplated installing anything with the word mesa in it but I've learned bad things happen when I start throwing wildcards into a given package manager. Google searches were hopeless. It was either "you can't install their drivers" or "you already have them installed with the kernel!" But if the latter was true, why wasn't openGL working?

I finally installed ubuntu and used AMD's drivers off their website. They were there. I didn't need to look for anything special. They also performed like piss.

If I knew what drivers I needed in my distro, and Fedora's repos had them, and glxgears worked I would have kept the 470. But none of that came to be.

I certainly hope you have better results. For me I'm going back to Nvidia. Their prop drivers are a pain in the ass to install, but they're there and they do work.

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>AMDcucks be

>>56033433
A.K.A. waste of time thread. I don't like AMD 'cause of their awful Linux drivers but come on. Go do something more fun.

>>56036033
The gallium drivers should ship with your distro, so you should have working 3D out of the box without needing to do anything. That's the theory anyway.

Anyway, best of luck!

Trust me, AMD doesn't need it's own hate thread. The people who buy from them hate themselves enough as it is.

>>56035957
If you can't formulate a sentence properly how do you expect me to take you seriously?

>>56036235
It's too late, I saw it. The irony is delicious.

I was kinda pissed I can't crossfire my sapphire rx460 oc edition, even though it says "crossfire" in its feature list on the fucking box.
I wanted to do a dual GPU setup just because it sounded cool.

>>56036242
Well, atleast no-one else did, the point still stands.

>>56036242
answer his question anon

wtf i hate amd now

>>56033433
i have an 8350 and an r9 380
I can do everything i want and didnt sell a limb to afford some jewish circuitry.

>>56036573
point is, you can't

>>56033433
dumb frogposter

>>56033899
>miners
leave and never come back
>>>/v/

>>56033740
autistic panjeet shill

>>56033844
>>56033833
>>56033902
>>56034012
>>56034108
>>56036043
LOOK MOMMY I POSTED IT AGAIN

>>56036573
If your job is to test antialiasing in MS Excel, then yeah, you can do what you want.

See, you have to lower your standards and expectations, we get it, but at least face the truth.

Holy shit can we go one day without an obvious shill thread?

I just ordered a sweet ass 990fx board, fuck you goys.

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>>56037787

>>56035957
That thread about async was hilarious.

Guy posted countless references showing how Pascal has async, yet one AMDtard kept saying "but but no it doesn't"

Probably the worst thing about AMD is their brain damaged fans.

>>56035537
In every price bracket there is a better Nvidia card. For example, the 1060 is way better than the 480.

>>56038063
Laugh it up while I save money.

>>56038116
You could've gone Intel and got faster performance for the exact same price.

>>56038171
It wouldn't be the same price, I chose amd because the money spent for a 6700k is going towards 32gb of ram and some other nice bits like a 750w modular psu, I think it'll be a comfy system.

>>56038195
It would. Tell me your motherboard and processor and I'll give you an Intel motherboard and processor that is faster for the exact same price.

>>56038209
It's the FX8350 on a Gigabyte FXA-UD3 R5 I got on an impulse for $79.99.

>>56038230
FX8350 = $160
Gigabyte FXA-UD3 R5 = $80
Total: $240

Intel equivalent that is much faster:

Gigabyte GA-H110M-A - $50
i5-6400 - $190
Total: $240

i5-6400 vs FX-8350
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-6400-vs-AMD-FX-8350
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-6400-vs-AMD-FX-8350/3512vs1489

18% faster
48% more energy efficient
Much better overclocking

>>56038322
Okay you fuckin got me, the i5 is only a little slower overall but the single core is insane on it. Still, i am a poorfag and the 8350 being cheaper and still fast despite being warm is giving me a good deal.

>>56038322
>Mini ITX motherboard with shitty chipset and single PCIe
>Still 50 dollars more than a high end 990-FX chipset
Kek.

>>56038322
If he'd gone with an AMD motherboard of equivalent features to that Intel one, he'd probably be well under $240 total.

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>>56033433
dumb nvidiot

>>56033433
Ha! You fell for the AMD hype train.

>>56038452
>>56038509
You can easily take the processor down to an i3-6320 and still have way better performance with $30 less price. Hell even an i3-6100 is faster and that's $70 less.

>>56038683
>take the processor down

at least you americucks have a simple option between rx480 and gtx1060

in Canada, the prices are virtually the exact same
>MSI GTX 1060 $419
>MSI Radeon RX 480 $409
so do you choose current performance (1060) or future performance (480)?

because of this, I'm buying neither

fuck both companies

>>56038791
also a MSI 1070 is $625. chapest 1070 is $549

it makes literally zero sense to not just save up $150 and grab a 1070

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>>56035957
nice delusion

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>>56037238
>literally no counterargument
>calling people names

AMDrones everyone

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>>56038791
>Future performance
>on a fucking budget card
Nigger just get the 1060 so you can actually play games that aren't Ashes of Singularity

>>56033899
Supply and demand.
Prices will drop in two months.

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>Makes GPUs
>CPUs deliver great bang for the buck
>Company doesn't change sockets every year like a bunch of dickheads
What's there to hate? AMD has been more kind to the consumer than Intel/Nvidia ever have and all you guys can do is shit on them.

>>56040224
because everyone here is a shill

>>56040224
All of that sounds good on paper but you need to keep in mind all of AMD's actual products are complete shit and years behind the competition

>490
Are you sure this wasn't wccftech?

>>56040426
shill

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>>56037238
>being this buttblasted

>>56033899
The only way you can get the RRP is if you buy the reference card from AMD themselves. They have no control over their partners.

>>56034012
Wouldn't he be letting himself down because he spearheaded Polaris?

>>56040748
>>>/a/

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>Wants to buy Sapphire Nitro
>Finally released
>5 hours after being released
>Sold out
>Stocks next week

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>>56038791
Current

You're buying the mid-range one anyway by 4th year you probably want to replace the videocard anyway

>>56033971
yes to both

Daily reminder that if not for AMD we'd be ditched x86 for better arch. Intel wanted to deprecate x86 in favor of IA64.

>>56033694
>I-it looks better on paper!
>It will r-run faster in the future I promise!
>But muh future proofing!

AMD subhumans on /g/ are either shills or gullible retards.

>>56034219
>Monstrous
>10℅ faster than 4 years old i5
>Ridge priced at $300 and up.

Gaming is a stupid hobby you fucking faggots

>>56042626
So is using alterations of Linux just so you can feel like a special little snowflake while you shitpost on /g/ and don't actually code anything. There, I just described 80℅ of freetards in here.

>>56042659
when you compare it to arguing about gpus it's alot better, i assure you.

>>56042676
Doubt. You sound like an arch or eOS distro user.

>>56042706
wangblows 7 anon, with the original service pack.

>>56038195
>32gb of ram
What a waste of money

>>56040224
Doing the right thing by the consumer is great, but it's pointless if the products can't compete.

>>56042768
I like to make RAM disks, put my big uncompressed fraps videos on them, and edit with no lag. It helps.

>>56036033
>or "you already have them installed with the kernel!" But if the latter was true, why wasn't openGL working?

Confusingly enough, the "amdgpu" driver has been split into 2 parts: The kernel module named "amdgpu", and the userland driver, also called "amdgpu". In addition to that, there's the alternate userland driver "amdgpu-pro" which you have to get from AMD directly.

On a debian system, the amdgpu userland driver is supplied by the package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu, which is currently only available in testing/unstable.

>>56034856
>The 1060 performing better now, but it's, but also pricier
no it's not, the RX 480 4G was a paperlaunch and will be a product that gets phased out. the 8G is the same price as GTX 1060.

>>56042379
>IA64
>Better arch
It killed better architectures if that's what you mean. How many companies stopped development of their chips because Intel overhyped their POS? If not for Intel, we could have actual diversity in the market.

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>>56037238
>being this upset

>>56042818
>the 8G is the same price as GTX 1060.
>229 = 249
You math good. inb4 complaining about the price gouging done by 3rd parties.

>>56042072
>Stocks next YEAR

>>56042785
I know youre not the same person, but you're an exception. The average person doesn't need 32Gb of ram.

>>56034108
Oh wow, they really have a woman as ceo, fuck me. No wonder it's going down the trash

>>56042870
True, It makes me laugh when I see normies getting into pc gaming and they get 32 gb of ram, thinking itll make games run faster on their non overclockable cpu.

>>56042856
>price gouging done by 3rd parties.
KEK IDGAF what AMDs MSRP is when nobody follows it, FACT is that the RX 480 is priced on the same level as GTX 1060 and FACT is that the GTX 1060 is the superior card to RX 480.
So who in their right mind is going to buy a slower card for the same price as a much faster? Right only drones would do such a thing.

>>56040426
This.

There is literally no reason to buy AMD anymore.

The competition is both CHEAPER AND FASTER.

AMD is a complete fucking waste of space.

>>56035736
>be asspie
>want to be unique snowflake
>want to do gaymen on a platform not made for gaymen
>cry about it on gee
Why do people do this?

>>56042893
>when nobody follows it
But people are following it, they're just selling out faster than they can stock.

>>56042885
Seriously.

Female asian CEO and pajeet are running the company. Is it any surprise AMD is in the shitter now?

>>56040426
This tbhsmthfam
Matrox Parhelia was great on paper but sucked in reality.

>>56042889
Yeah, if only they knew they could download more ram...

>>56042918
>AMD is in the shitter now
but chinks and pajeets defecate in public

>>56042911
Are you stupid or simply incapable of reading? Like it's okay if you have dyslexia but then please make it clear in every one of your posts.

>>56038114
Not really, it entirely depends on the game. Also keep in mind that a lot of games that are reviewed have Goyworks enabled that automatically favour Nvidia cards, or the game will be catered to AMD (i.e. Hitman, DiRT Rally, etc).. Also depending on where you live the 1060 or 480 will be quite a bit cheaper/more expensive.

>RX 480 starts at 269€ for the shitty versions and >300€ for the ones with proper coolers

http://geizhals.de/?cat=gra16_512&xf=132_8192~9808_11606+-+RX+480#xf_top

Why is this allowed? Where are my $199 cards?

>>56042948
I could ask the same of you. Price gougers are pricing themselves out of the market and the ones at the RRP are vanishing faster than they can stock them. Is that a difficult concept?

>>56042986
gotta pay for dem rapefugees hans

>>56042942
AMD is that pile of shit you see sitting on the street that you point at and say "Who the fuck did that?"

>>56040224
how soon we forget

https://web.archive.org/web/20130719043005/http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347

amd would still be jewing if they thought they could get away with it. And they will with Zen.

>>56043000
IF you were to buy a graphics card AT THIS MOMENT you would have to dish out the same money for a RX 480 and a GTX 1060.
FACT
The MRSP means NOTHING.

>>56043061
>220W
>8 half-cores

>>56043064
Wow, that's some hoops you have to jump through to put NVidia ahead. Fanboy or shill?

>>56036276
RX 460 can crossfire you dingus. AMD doesn't use crossfire bridges any more.

>>56043085
>pay almost 4x as much as an 8350 for the same chip with the only difference being gauranteed high binning and a high factory oc

amdrones will defend this

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>8 core 16 threads cpu behind a 2 year old I7 with only 4 cores and 8 threads in an AMD favored game

I know it's clocked low but even if it matches the I7, that's pretty fucking poor for an octa core with HT

>>56043099
There's no hoops. THE MSRP for 480 is $239 and 1060 is $249. The 1060 is also 13% faster. You'd actually have to be really dumb to buy a 480 over a 1060.

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>tfw got a cheap as fuck 2600k
>oc'd it to 4.5 ghz
>temps under load don't even pass 60 degrees

I can recommend this over anyone thinking of buying bulldozer cpu's new.

You can get a heck of a lot more performance by jumping on some of the sandy bridge cpu's still going around

>>56043107
I'm a huge 8350 fagboy, but I'll admit that the 9590 is a stupid chip, i guess it it's uses, you could clock it to the speed of an 8350 and run a lower voltage since it's binned, but the 8350 125w tdp at stock isnt too terrible, and its cheaper than a 9590 from the gecko.

>>56043175
the point was really to illustrate that AMD can be anti-consumer and greedy and will once they think they have a firm grasp on the market again.

>>56033433
5 rupees for you Pajeet!

>>56043175
>the 8350 125w tdp at stock isnt too terrible

It's actually really awful considering the Skylake i3 outperforms it at only 51W and $50 cheaper.

>>56043139
The chip could've had 16 physical cores and 32 logical, it still wouldn't have matched the i7 in performance when the game in question doesn't apparently scale that well beyond 6 cores.

I'd say that's great performance for an engineering sample. Now it just needs to be priced competitively to light a fire under Intel.

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>>56033433

>>56043202
>Skylake i3 outperforms it
It doesn't unless you use it for badly programmed /v/-shit.

>>56043194
h-hi..

>>56043214
>I'd say that's great performance for an engineering sample
Based on what do you draw that conclusion?

My only issue is not being able to buy the RX 480 partner card I want yet (MSI Gaming X). The serious lack of availability of RX 480 partner cards is frustrating. It's not just the miners fault this time either.

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>>56042559
>>56042609
>>56042918
>>56042942
>>56043004
(you)

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mfw my Fury X gets delivered today :^)

>>56043214
i dont really give 2 shits about asses of the singularity. i know next to nothing about what kind of performance the chip is pulling per core. That's literally everything right now and we won't know that until late this year when we finally get some proper benchmarks. It doesn't matter if you have 4 cores or 64 if they're just not up to par. That's the difference between actually competing with the 5960x with your 8c/16t zen and just being the dustbin budget option.

Personally i am not impressed with it beating a 4c/4t intel and losing to a 4c/8t, and ashes of the singularity tells me almost nothing about the only metric that matters right now.

>>56042900
Nice buzzwords, faggot.

>>56043235
It literally does. In fact the lowest Skylake i3 can outperform a fucking 8370

>>56043264
Which part? The fact that the benchmark was done using an engineering sample, or that I subjectively consider the performance "great"?

>>56043269
AMD designed them for fantastic yields and they are selling like hotcakes. They just came out, have some patience.

>>56043305
That benchmark is fantastic, Zen is clocked almost a GHZ slower and is only 7 fps behind. That game doesn't even use 8c/16t. A I shouldn't have to remind you that intels 8c/16t is slower single-threaded vs its 4790k. Literally a non-issue.

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>>56033433
pretty good, schlomo
however

>>56043495
I also wanted to add the $1000 intel 6900k is slower than a fucking 4790k in the cinebench benchmark. 153 vs 192.

>>56033433
i don't use amd and i don't hate it. intel needs more competitors than it has now.

>>56043512
Is this still a thing? Haven't the affected applications been patched since then to get rid of this discrepancy?

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>>56043585
once bitten, twice shy
who knows what other tricks the eternal merchant has in its sleeves

>>56043495
It's just going to take more than AMD's favorite game benchmark vs some lower price bracket cpu's in the most sloppy unprofessional benching i've ever seen (RAM isn't even listed). I'll wait for real numbers from reputable sources to make my verdict. There's so much we don't know yet and that could be damning. Don't know about you but I don't even play ashes of the singularity.

>>56033433
AMD fucking sucks. Advanced Micro Devices lel more like AMD Must Die

>>56033433
I love my RX 480. You can't find a better GPU for $200

>>56043707
Autistic fanboy who lives in his mums basement confirmed

>>56043707
AMD - Another Major Disappointment

>>56043748
H-how do you know that you fucking nigger?

>>56034001
What a fine example of judging a book by it's cover.

Amd gpu actually better clock per clock compare to nvidia gpu, to bad amd gpu cant overlock for shit, still stuck on 2009 clock speed

>>56043729
Except you can, and that 480 is not 200 dollars.

>>56043281
Not even pic related but I'll pick being a codbro douche over an unwashed smelly animal from India that comes over to USA or UK and learns how to write shit code while communicating in broken English just because whites are too generous for their own good at any given day.

>>56043301
I'm sorry anon. Here's a (You) to cheer You up.

Right now, buy the 750 ti or Rx 460?

>>56045186
Buy a console while you're at it poorfag.

>>56045196
I have one. I got a free computer that's SFF from work. That being said, go fuck yourself.

>>56045196
>buying a console for anything but good exclusives
>buying a console without CFW

>>56045228
Fine, fine. LINUX? 750. Windows? 950 > 460 >>> 750

>>56043585
IIRC they were only forced to include some clarification in the description of their compiler saying that it only optimised for Intel products. Nothing else has changed.

>>56045296
Thanks bb :*

>>56043384
>he thinks there's an appreciable difference between the 8350 and the 8370
>he thinks an i3 is a better choice for gaming than an 8320
>he thinks overclocking is when you put your put a clock on top of your computer so you can see how long it takes to load a game

hoo boy.

anon, I'll freely admit the 8350 is dogshit but it absolutely destroys i3s. There is no competition except in stupid edge cases where the differential doesn't even matter.

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RX 470 Asus Strix
$341

What's the price of a reference Rx 470 again?

>>56038114
What can I have from Nvidia for 200 dollars?

>>56045787
they won't even stick it all the way in at that

>>56045787
GTX 970

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>>56045464
Lol no it doesn't, it's not even close.

The i3 kills the 8350 in games and it even kills the 8370

Pic related.

My brother sold me his old HD 5870 when I built my first PC, around half-price for a new one at the time.

After about a year the fucker literally started falling apart- the casing was literally sagging down onto the cooling fan. Held that garbage up with packing tape until I could afford a new card.

AMD: Not Even Once.

I bought a fucking AMD Radeon VGA after my Nvidia brokes (2 years using it), and in just one fucking day, the damn Radeon just EXPLODE!

Yeah, this peace of shit just explode inside my computer!

I bought a Nvidia next day and works for more two years!

Last year I bought a laptop Dell with a fucking Radeon and this damn VGA works as a shit. So I gave back the laptop and bought another Dell with nVidia and works like a charm til now.

AMD sucks.

All these god damn fucking manboys here being such cucks for any company.

I've changed 4 entire rigs so far including 3 laptops. I've used both Nvidia, AMD, ATi and Intel. Every company had their ups and downs. I don't hold faith in any company. I don't root for anyone. The only thing I actually care about is how to maximize the performance for as little money as I can.

The i5 2500K for 200 euros and the GTX580 I bought 5 years ago for 120 euros are still kicking fucking ass. As did my previous HD 4850 which lasted 3 years easily.

but there is no announcement that the 490 will be dual gpu

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>>56049281
I'm not even surprised.

AMD makes low quality shit that fails so fucking often it's comical.

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>>56033433
Bumping with based and economical FX-8350.

>>56043495
>That game doesn't even use 8c/16t.

Any parallelized code will scale to an arbitrary amount of cores. AotS has also been shown to scale to more than 10 cores.

That Zen ES has roughly 1/2 the throughput of 4 haswell cores.

>>56051989
You have to imagine there's a reason whoever did this test ONLY did that and nothing else. It's absurd. They know everyone is gnashing their teeth for those numbers. ANYONE, even just a random person from this board who doesn't make it their business to be a 'benchmarker', would have pulled out all the stops. passmark, geekbench, aida64, pcmark, LOADS of games, adobe premier, hashes, the works. It's fucking obvious when the ONLY thing they tested JUST SO HAPPENS (hur dur derp) to be a /v/ideogame that AMD is in love with.

And why would they do this? Because they don't want the lid being blown off their chip as everyone finds out it's shit before it even comes out? Because it's '''''''''''''''not finished'''''''''''''''? You be the judge. All in all im mortified at the very likely possibility that Zen is a shit based on the fact that the first time someone got their hands on one they told us almost nothing. Either AMD paid them for their silence or they're a rabid fanboy who wants to protect his favorite company. It's the only explanation.

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>>56051636
Economical if someone else pays your electricity bill.

>>56052808
Jokes on you, I pay $35 dollars a month for power.

>>56052818
if your electric rate is the lowest in the country ($0.0928/kwh) and your AMD system is idling at 50w higher than an Intel system (which is probably a low estimate), you're paying $40/yr more in electricity. Over the expected 3 year useful life of a system, you could have bought at least a core i5 for the same TCO.

>>56035556
>>56035401
>gaming on linux


LOL

>>56052936
I'm in socal by the beach with all the windows open, which is probably why I dont notice my 4.5GHz 8350 creating heat, I guess AMD isnt for everyone.

do you want to be a paid shill?

https://www.techpowerup.com/224851/techpowerup-staff-opening-news-editor

apply now.

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>>56034219

>>56038322
No overclocking at all you mean

WHY ARE LOCAL RETAILERS SELLING AMD RX 470 AFTERMARKET THE SAME PRICE AS FUCKING 1060 AFTERMARKET AT $347

>>56055335
why are you gay

>>56040844
AMD don't sell their own cards. All reference cards are still sold by partners. They can't afford the logistics and RMA bullshittery that comes with selling cards themselves.

>>56036033
The fuck nigga? It's clear you don't understand how to use Linux graphics. I can break it down for you: gallium3d is a hardware interface for GLSL built on-top of LLVM. Consequently, it's included as a part of Mesa, the de facto FOSS OpenGL/CL implementation for Linux distros. AMDGPU is a kernel hardware driver to expose the shaders necessary for gallium3d to operate, at least for GCN1.1 (Hawaii) and on. radeonsi was the original driver implementation for pre GCN1.1 support atop the standard radeon driver prior to AMDGPU. AMDGPU-PRO is AMD's more strict OpenGL/CL/VDPAU implementation offered as an alternative to Mesa. You will need Linux-4.8 or above in order to expose the Polaris ISA.

AMD's massive problem is absence of software infrastructure. Splitting the R&D between SoCs, GPUs, and CPUs puts a lot more strain on hardware engineers, so much of their uarch are designed to be redesigned every few years, not every single refresh like nVidia and every other like Intel. This combined with AMD's design of overkill memory controllers rather than a software solution, and a long running fuck up of weak tessellation shader processing in ROPs has been more and more evident on "GCN 4" which evidently has not changed much since GCN1.1, besides removing SIPs for TrueAudio and whatnot.

Oh well. AMD is not crashing any moment soon even though it can't outsell nVidia nor Intel. The Bulldozer failure combined with a declining desktop market for dGPUs has been chewing AMD up. Even though it's a small cut of the market, AMD will be on a long, long road to recovery, and Polaris is paramount to it.

>>56051636
8350 is garbage, see >>56048231

>>56033433
Damn this thread is still up

>>56055486
You now know why the founders edition nvidia cards exist.

>>56055717
Fuck this founders edition and no rx480 4gb pricing bullshit being shoved to our throats.

>>56055717
They were doing it before Pascal though.

>>56055717
founders edition

i really dont understand why this existed.

Who the fuck buys reference cards anyway

polaris, vega, it doesnt matter.
ZEN has to succeed. It has to. It just has to. Please succeed.

im an intel-fag but i still don't want to see this company die

>>56057143
Intel has been shit since AMD wasnt able to compete.

We really need ZEN to succeed if we want to see better intel products

>>56055857
And making fuck all profit from reference cards

>>56057100
Exactly. See above.

https://www.techpowerup.com/224976/samsung-to-optical-shrink-nvidia-pascal-to-14-nm

>14nm is shit they said
>tsmc 16nm is a much better process they said

https://www.techpowerup.com/224976/samsung-to-optical-shrink-nvidia-pascal-to-14-nm

>14nm is leaky and hot they said
>it's not efficient they said
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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>>56057675
>>56057757
>mfw 14nm pascal btfos poolaris even more

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>>56057675
>>56057757
>mfw 14nm pascal btfos poolaris even more

>>56057675
>>56057757
>what is the maturing of a process
>beating amd at their own game

KEK based nvidia.

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nvidiot butthurt incoming
1/?

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>>56057846
2/?

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>>56057856
3/?

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>>56057864
4/?

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>>56057874
5/?

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>>56057884

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>>56057889

>>56043215
kek
someone was butthurt af making this

Why is there some retard dumping pointless benchmarks of a 480 without the 1060 (the 480 competitor) being in any of the benches

I think he's a bit thick in the head

Reminder that PCSX2 OGL plugin won't load on amd cards. Their OGL driver support is this shit.

>>56057921
>PCSX2

And this matters how?

>>56057921
Their ogl drivers are fucking tragic. Just look at No Man's Sky. It gets blown the fuck out by a last gen 960.

https://youtu.be/_yqezrRQTzk

https://youtu.be/j-AFqy8-rKc (skip to when he lands)

>>56057921
>he fell for the openGL meme
just use dx11... wait you're probably a loonix cuck too LOL

>>56058036 (You)

>>56057959
It matters because ati/amd haven't fixed their shitty drivers for the last 15 years.

>>56057921
speaking of emulators

Does AMD get added boosts on Rpcs3 games with vulkan api

>>56058126
just use dx9 or dx11 s-m-h. stop using an operating system that wasn't meant for playing games

>>56058578
OGL plugin has the highest accuracy.
Kill yourself amdrone.

>>56057900
>gets made fun of
LOL HES JUST BUTTHURT

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>>56058599
>muh accuracy
works on my machine

>>56038322
amdrones BTFO

>>56038195
> i'm poor
> imma buy 32gb ram, 750w psu, but shitty turd CPU

>>56058681
it's pretty well known that amd cpus are pretty trash for the money atm unless you decide to buy something less than an 8350

>>56057810
>>56057811
>>56057834
>>56058611
buttdevastated.

>>56038195
gollee gee.
a new cpu is better than a 4 year old cpu.
who would've thought?

>>56058738
only worthwhile amd cpu is athlon 845 or 880k.
also 7850 apu.

>>56058668
>Ignoring a decade old issue
typical amdrone

>>56052936
>your AMD system is idling at 50w higher than an Intel system (which is probably a low estimate),

The amount of garbage in this fucking thread. Every single fucking review has bulldozer and it's successors at either lower or within 5 watts or their intel counterparts.

460 is ~25% slower than 950, and only on par in dx12

The RX 480 was aimed at bringing the previous gens higher end performance for a lower entry fee. It did exactly that. Supply and demand (and some shitty AIB partners profit riding), miners and scalpers pushed up it's price and caused the late release of AIB partner cards as AMD got backlogged on their reference design. It also pushed Nvidia into releasing the GTX 1060 to compete. If the RX 480 had never existed do you think Nvidia would have even bothered releasing a mid range GPU at it's current price point? I highly doubt it.

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How about some direct comparisons on a AIB partner card? Guru3D using 16.7.2 drivers except for RotTR which is 16.7.3. I choose to only show RotTR because it's Nvidia's 'jewel in the crown' game and to show how the difference is marginal as the RX 480 drivers improve performance as time progresses.

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Why are AMD products is more expensive by the time they reach other countries compared to than Nvidia and their stated MSRP

Higher shipping costs than Nvidia?
What's the deal with it?

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>>56059398
>The amount of garbage in this fucking thread. Every single fucking review has bulldozer and it's successors at either lower or within 5 watts or their intel counterparts.

>>56055610
>The fuck nigga? It's clear you don't understand how to use Linux graphics.
I know it's been a few days but yes. I've been using Linux since Fedora Core 3 and apart from installing X and looking for drivers off a GPU maker's web site I really don't understand how it works. If I had to figure all that shit out I wouldn't be using Linux in the first place. There's a limit to how autistic I'm willing to be.

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>>56059463
This anon gets it. Right now we're enjoying $200-$300 cards performing like $300-$400 cards thanks to the RX 480. You guys can boast all you want but AMD grabbed Nvidia by the balls and squeezed. Nvidia hit back hard though, and we're enjoying the end results.

I can only hope AMD does even better with Vega and Zen. Watching Intel and Nvidia competing for once is doing great things for us.

>>56060227
>Right now we're enjoying $200-$300 cards performing like $300-$400 cards thanks to the RX 480.

the 970 was unofficially $250 for over a year before the 480 was released, all AMD did was match the '''street price'''.

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>>56059932
If only the post I replied to mentioned average instead of idles. You guys are so fucking pedantic.

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>>56055610
>AMD is not crashing any moment soon
Pajeet lies.
AMD on Linux crashes ALL THE TIME.

>>56057903
AMDrones are dumb as fuck

>>56057143
We all know Zen is going to fail. AMD hasn't made anything good in the last century.

>>56033433
Is this the new Nvidia marketing strategy?