Rx480 vs Gtx1060 which one is more futureproof and better current

>>56001829
480 for both, 1060 is only better in outdated dx11 games with gaymeworks

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RX 480. It's cheaper, better, and not only has more vRAM but faster vRAM as well.

These things are selling like hotcakes and they sellout really fucking fast though. I would get pic related asap before they are sold out.

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>>56001829
1060 is a lot better in nearly everything:

On average, a 1060 is 13.72% better than a 480.

On average, when using DX11, a 1060 is 15.25% better than a 480.

On average, when using DX12, a 1060 is 1.02% worse than a 480.

On average, when using Vulkan, a 1060 is 27.13% better than a 480.

>>56001935
>outdated dx11 games
AMDcuck damage control is hilarious

>>56001935
>>56001958
kek

amd fags are truly pathetic

>>56001975
OP here, yes it's 15% faster but i just checked on newegg canada and it's 100$ more for the 1060.

>>56001975
>1060 better on Vulkan
nigger get that sauce out or shut the fuck up

>>56001829
1060 has great price-performance, you will have 65+ FPS in any modern game on settings maxed out. not so futureproof, will be outdated in 2 years.

480 has shitty performance and horrible architecture, underperforms in everything. But it supports all the next-gen tech and with some bios updates you will probably be ok for the next 4 years or so.

You decide.

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>>56002022

>>56001958
>I wish my motherboard melted before someone elses did

>>56001829
1060 doesn't properly dx12 and vulkan with their peeemption "async"

>>56002043
>this pre alpha vulkan wrapper based game again
keep trying

>>56002103
1060 does dx12 great, in fact it's nearly identical to the 480 dx12 performance.

Same with async, in fact the 1060 is arguably much better at dx12 and async going into the future because it beats the 480 in the DX12 benchmark Time Spy.

>>56002122
>time spy again
it's not a full DX12 implementation

1060 performs better in dx11, and has about the same perf/$ as the RX480 in DX11 (costs slightly more, performs slightly better). RX480 performs better in DX12, so it's going to surpass the 1060 in perf/$ as more DX12 titles are released.
RX480 consumes more power, though.

>>56002062
You realize that it wasn't a problem right? Nvidia has been going over the pci spec for years and nothing bad has happened.

To make matters worse AMD undervolted Rx 480 GPUs with a driver update and as a side effect of getting close the the pci spec they've increased overall performance as well.

>>56002142
So AMD confirmed for poor qc pretty much.

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>tfw you're going to buy an rx480 so AMD doesn't go out of business so that Nvidia gets a monopoly

Taking the hit for you guys.

>>56002146

I really enjoy nvidias HBM cards.

>>56002138
Time Spy is literally a DX12 benchmark. In fact AMD themselves helped create it.

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>>56001829
I wonder OP, which one?

>>56002142
Nvidia never went over the pcie spec, not even once.

480 was literally the only card to do that, a complete disaster. Another good reason to avoid the 480 because it still goes over spec even with the new patch.

>futureproof

Neither. If you want "futureproof" your best bet is the 1080.

As far as 480 vs 1060 you're better off with a 1060. Every 480 that goes in stock is being snatched up by a memecoin miner within seconds. At least with the 1060 you won't have to wait 6 months before getting your hands on one.

480. If you actually use your GPU for more then playing console ports and jerking off over your 200 dollar RGB LED mouse and keyboard set with matching video card.

10 series Nvidia is trash. From the Titan down to the 1060 so far. Its only saving grace is it's the only thing out. Because AMD is fucking broke and can't buy enough silicon wafers for production to meet demand.

>>56002189
Which has absolutely nothing to do with AMD qc.
Nicely argument.

>>56001829
I don't know about the 1060, but rx480 is a steaming piece of shit
Nvidia cards have always been better in the long run, this won't be any different
do not listen to the shills amd is an awful awful company

>>56001935
outdated dx11? you mean the current industry standard? good luck with the 12 games that give you the option though all of them are literal dogshit.

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>>56002194
I like dont like AMDs new green logo

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>>56002258
1060 is way better than the 480.

>>56001829
Crossfire

>>56002142
millisecond spikes don't violate pci spec, however seconds and minutes at a time like the 480 was doing, that's another story.

quit your fanboyism and realise you're getting cucked already.

>>56002207
>Nvidia never went over the pcie spec, not even once.

Its because of Nvida those specs where made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRo-1VFMcbc

>>56002298
>dual gpu with 2 weaker cards
Now that's what I call autism.

>>56002272
/thread

>>56002281
dx12 is out, he asked for something futureproof and better price performance, since dx12 is what will be used in the future the 480 is still more futureproof than the 1060

>>56002298
>dual GPU shit

At least Nvidiafags don't shill that dead concept because one Nvidia card suffices in making you feel like your setup isn't from 2008.

>>56002291
"Developed with input from AMD, Intel, Microsoft, NVIDIA, and the other members of the Futuremark Benchmark Development Program, Time Spy shows the exciting potential of low-level, low-overhead APIs like DirectX 12. "

http://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/introducing-3dmark-time-spy-directx-12-benchmark-test

>>56002311
dual 8 pin power connectors. nice try that was the card frying and not the motherboard. that wasn't a pci spec issue.

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>>56002189
HBM sure helped the fury x beat the 980 ti :^)

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>>56001935
> is only better in outdated dx11 games with gaymeworks
> it's only better in all existing games!
>RX 480 will be better in all upcoming games, really!

>>56002298
And how many people actually install more than one graphics card onto their system?
What's that?

20%?

15%?

10%?

...

Nope.

Not even a 1%

>>56002311
Lol that has nothing to do with the pcie slot. Jesus you're dumb.

I love how amd autists only argument is "is goin to b betr in futurr!!!!!!"


Then all of it turns out to be shit

Rx480 gona be so good and kill nvidia!!
Its shit

Replace rx480 with anything from pajjetamd

>>56002395
RX 480 is total garbage, so they have to make up some unproveable bullshit like that. They can say "it's gonna be better in the future" even though all evidence shows it's awful, but no one can prove them wrong because you'd need a time machine.

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>>56002138
>>56002103

>it's not real Vulkan!
>it's not real DX12

This is fucking hilarious, denial is real

>>56002395
Just typical AMD waitfag logic. Just wait...just wait..just wait it's gonna be good later...just wait...meanwhile in the real world Nvidia is clearly superior.

>>56002441
>what is OpenGL in a Vulkan wrapper

Don't buy rx 480, you won't get drivers for it when AMD drops gcn, which will happen soon.

t. HD6970 user suffering from buyers remorse

>>56002296

6% better at a 50 dollar premium in year old vidyagames, with less VRAM. No compute to speak of, and shitty OpenCL support. We won't even go in to Vulkan and Direct X 12 band aid fixes. And now we have some machine language effects via shader intrinsic functions for gaming that Nvidia hasn't even allowed outside of CUDA.

Meanwhile on a 480, I have better crypto, can run OpenCL OR CUDA with no performance loss, superior rendering, but you can sure as fuck do machine learning on that GTX... very, very, slowly.

Fuck it, let's throw on that "SSG" on a W4100 and laugh as it chokes the life out of Nvidia "competition" for rendering real-time 8k resolution at 30 frames per second.

>>56002472
1060 is $10 more for 13% better performance in all games overall.

It does async and DX12 even better than the 480, and absolutely destroys the 480 in Vulkan.

>>56002469
>six year old card

Poorfag defined.

>usually get AMD cards because better price/performance
>tfw want to get RX480 but also want to use CUDA since it apparently is easier than OpenCL

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>>56002472
>he fell for the rx480 meme
Enjoy your drivers, shadowplay, CUDA, and Linux support.
Enjoy your housefire, your burning motherboard and fried chipset.

>>56002517
AMDfags are poorfags suffering from buyers remorse wishing they spent the extra 20 dollars on a quality nvidia product

>>56002516

According to Nvidia, it sure does!

According to every one else involved in game development Nvidia gets ass rammed in Vulkan and Nvidia.

>>56002539
>nvidia gets assrammed in vulkan and nvidia
You AMDumbs never cease to amuse me

>>56002539
>Nvidia gets ass rammed in Vulkan and Nvidia.

Uhhh what?

Jesus AMDtards really are retarded.

>>56002441
>A beta version of a game when the developers themselves are telling people not to use as a benchmark due to how unfinished it is
>A benchmark that uses the absolute minimum feature level of the API, leaving out the more advanced async compute related parts of the API
I know it's annoying when you think you've got a "gotcha", but then find out out don't have one.

Seriously, if you want to measure Vulkan performance use Doom and if want DX12 performance use AotS, Hitman or Total War:Warhammer.

>>56002358
>Developed with input


Oh AMD went from helping to create to "input", Ohhh ok I get it.

You seem to read a lot why arent you talking abou the fact that 3DMark uses context switching to do Async and not using proper parallel processing for AMD cards JUST LIKE DX11. 3DMark did a good job of not pissing off Nvidia. iD and Microsoft are the only company so far thats using the new APIs with out a care or concern about AMD or NV.

>>56002533

You're welcome

https://github.com/GPUOpen-ProfessionalCompute-Tools/HIP

>>56002583
Works like shit though

>>56002516
>13% better performance in all games overall.
Sure, when most of them are using DX11 or OpenGL. IIRC the review that figure is from intentionally left out Doom, ran Hitman in DX11 mode and had a whole bunch of games people don't play anymore like Battlefield 3 (yes, 3, not 4).

>>56002534

>crying

Leave Nvidias forums and look around at what's happening.

>>56002563
AMD literally signed off on 3DMark, just like Nvidia did.

Time Spy is a balanced benchmark created to not favor either card, that's why both Nvidia and AMD created it together.

It's really too bad that the 480 is just inferior hardware though compared to the 1060, it just shows in a balanced benchmark such as Time Spy.

>>56002591

Post your project and let's see what's wrong with it.

>>56002593
Nope that 13% includes Doom in Vulkan and Hitman in DX12

>>56002611

>balanced

>catering to the lowest common denominator

Hello Mr graphics card debaters :∆D

>>56002611
>Thinks AMD could have actually forced FutureMark to create vendor or architecture specific branches when FutureMark specifically said that they weren't going to make any
Time Spy used the absolute minimum feature level of the API so it can be run on Nvidia hardware going back to Kepler (600-series), AMD hardware going back to GCN 1.0 (7000-series) along with Intel integrated graphics going back to Haswell (HD4000).

As a DX12 benchmark Time Spy is is joke. Any proper DX12 game is going to have vendor and architecture specific paths that utilize higher feature levels.

>>56002695
>ny proper DX12 game is going to have vendor and architecture specific paths that utilize higher feature levels.

Do you not realize that would create a bias benchmark?

It literally has to be vendor neutral, that's the entire point.

Time Spy is a neutral benchmark with no optimizations for either side, and unfortunately it shows the 1060 is just plain superior to the 480.

>>56002626
Nope, this is the review it's from:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Palit/GeForce_GTX_1060_Super_JetStream/16.html

Here's the sentence in question:
>In this test, we're testing the game in DirectX 11 mode, which is still reasonably taxing on high-end GPUs

Also note the lack of AotS

>>56002640
EXACTLY THIS!

Thats why everyone stop talking about 3D Mark except this >>56002611 fucking retard.

>>56001829
I've got a GTX 980. Would I gain anything from upgrading? I'm thinking about acquiring a 4k monitor. Would I gain much from either an RX480 or 1060?

>>56002713
It's a neutral benchmark only in the sense that it runs on the widest possible range of hardware, but the result of that is that it doesn't properly utilize the extra features in more recent hardware.

In other words: As a benchmark it's worthless. I'd compare it to a weight lifting competition between someone who can bench 100 KG vs someone who can bench 90 KG at a gym where the maximum weights only go to 80 KG.

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The performance in Time Spy is marginal.between both GPU's on the same AIB Partner card. Also driver updates are already eating into any performance gains the 1060 has.

The 1060 is a good card but you're better off with a 480 if you're gonna keep it for more than 2 years. Also depends on what games you play. If you're not interested in new games the 1060 is a better choice, if you wanna play new upcoming dx12 games like bf1, forza horizon 3 or deus ex then the 480 is better. With Nvidia you get shadowplay which is a really neat feature, AMD has freesync which is good if you're on a budget and planning to get a 144hz monitor down the line. I've been using a 660GTX for a while now and switching over to the MSI Gaming X 480, it's the best aib 480 card so I recommend it.

AMD cards age better.

>>56002762

No. I honestly wouldn't upgrade until you see some better 4k monitors on the market. This time next year should have some good ones.

>>56002138
They designed it together with Nvidia and AMD.
The implemented it based on how they thought most devs would implement it.

Watch the pcperspective interview with one of the lead guys at FutureMark.

Dont know how much truth there is in that, but if Vulkan and DX12 turn out to be a pain in the ass to implement "properly" then most devs will skip it.

>>56002395
What about the 7970 and 290/290x, which pulled further and further ahead of their (at time of release) competitors as time went on?

>>56001829
futureproof is a stupid buzzword that is basically equivalent to its current performance.

>>56003029

Then that tells you why video games are absolute garbage. Because so few people who are qualified to develop games actually are developing them.

>>56001829
The 4gig 480 is best price to performance.

Best in the future depends on if vulkan and async shaders catch on. Also, resolution.

>>56001829
480 if you can actually get your hands on one.

>>56001982
>>56002014
>>56002033
>>56002207
>>56002433
>>56002457
>>56002469
>>56002552
>>56002553
>>56002611
.01 shekel(s) have been deposited to your geforce experience account

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>>56003098
>480
>better than a 1060

>>56002877
Thanks anon. I'll stick with my 980 until the 1070 falls in price and better 4K monitors are on.

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>>56003156
It's morally superior .


Lol

>>56003178
Better 4k... Uhh 0ne ms 4k monitors at 60hz already exists you poorfag.

>>56003156
>playing old shit games on a outdated api
wew lad

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>>56003179
>morally Superior
In what way?

>>56003197
Well I was shopping for one but anon suggested I wait. What do you suggest?

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>>56003219

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>>56003208
>dx12
>outdated API

>>56003249
Ah yes, the old nvidia is evil because AMD can't tesselate meme. gg

>>56002803
>It's a neutral benchmark only in the sense that it runs on the widest possible range of hardware
Not the same anon but it is neutral in the sense that it does not take advantage of any vendor specific optimizations.

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>>56003261
nice cherry picking

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>>56003267
>gtx 1060 is better in dx12 than an rx480
Hurr cherry picking

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>>56003261
autismo panjeet nvidia shill
>>>/out/

>>56002469
Drivers can only do so much famalam when the card doesn't have the hardware to support new features or is simply at its max, i.e. your six year old card.

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>>56003261
B-BUT NVIDIA IS BETTER B-BECAUSE IT COSTS MORE

>>56002194
>>56002441
>>56003029
a full dx12 benchmark uses fl12 and is built upon a specific architecture not a generic implementation. Thats what low level hardware access is all about.

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>>56003292
>>56003277
>>56003267
>getting this butthurt over the truth

>>56003301
Funny how even though fermi can't support dx12 it's still getting updates for dx11, which hd6000 series fully supports apparently.

>>56003305
>390x almost beating a 1070
JUST

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>>56003261
>>>/v/
nvidia shills tend to have more luck on /v/ shilling their overpriced shit

>>56003317
woa vitas nice
ugly pic tho

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>>56003261
even toms shillware isnt shilling nvidia this hard

>>56003317
pic related, you are wrong and its been proven

>>56003040
it seems to pull further because of muh cpu driver overhead. Haven't you noticed? Each time they test an old amd gpu they use the currently fastest cpu and thus minimise overhead. Hardware unboxed' test on doom vulkan on older cpu dictates this trend

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>>56003261
nice dx12 support family

>>56003357
>Hardware unboxed
somehow manages to come off as nvidia shills more than nvidia themselves

>>56003318
An AMD sponsored game doing well on AMD cards? Color me unsurprised. How stable and well featured is Hitman DX12 for Nvidia cards? Not at all?

>>56003359
>Titan X is behind 1070
kek

>>56003281
then whats >>56003267
>>56003277
>>56003292
>>56003305
>>56003320
>>56003338
>>56003359

>>56002469
>t. HD6970 user suffering from buyers remorse
dude that card came out in 2010, even a 6990 is outdated as fuck now

>>56002472
>6% better

do you not know how work out the simple difference between two percentages? you dont just add and subtract you retard. i knew amdrones were dumb as bricks but i never knew it was to this level.

>>56003390
>when amd sponsors a game
AMD IS MAKING MY $1000 NVIDIA CARD RUN LIKE SHIT AMDS FAULT AMDS FAULT AMDS FAULT

>When nvidia sponsors a game
Hmmm my 1000 card runs like shit? must be the devs, it totaly has nothing to do with the outdated api and gameworks.

>>56003359
>Fury X
Pretty good.

>>56003390
how about get a card that supports dx12

>>56003438
>AMD IS MAKING MY $1000 NVIDIA CARD RUN LIKE SHIT
Straw man? I stated nothing of the sort. I merely noted how optimizations benefited an AMD card in an AMD sponsored game.

>Hmmm my 1000 card runs like shit?
What nvidia sponsored game does this? Making shit up?

>>56002176
They have been selling 480s like crazy, hence why their stock has nearly tripled in value in the past few months.

Though in all honesty, if Zen and Vega don't deliver it's just going to postpone them being bought out.

>>56003376
>anything that shows nvidia is leading is an nvidia shill site

Already postet this in /sqt/

How much of a fps boost does give me my 1050 monitor over 1080? Im looking into a gpu that can handle witcher 3 max settings at 60fps and both the gtx 1060 and the rx 480 fall just short on that goal at 1080p.

>>56003457
How do Nvidia cards do in an Nvidia sponsored DX12 game like Tomb Raider?

>>56001829
Clearly 480 for long term

>>56001935
Correct. 480 does well in ALL current DX11 games. It'll do even better in DX12, while the 1060 will see no performance increase.

>>56001975
14% better (now) for at least 25% more $$. Most new games will have DX12

>>56001982
>>56002014
Cuck'd hard by nvidia

>>56002122
>1060 does dx12 great, in fact it's nearly identical to the 480 dx12 performance.
You do realize that the 1060 is a LOT more expensive, right?

>>56002272
Here's your (you)

>>56001829
For future proofing, the RX480 hands down. The 1060 is an amazing card and you can't go wrong with it however. There are reasons to choose it like better open GL and DX 11 with better performance on Linux as well. That being said, Vulkan might be the saving grace and the RX480 is still cheaper.

>>56003484
>You do realize that the 1060 is a LOT more expensive
Not the same but [citation needed]
480 8gb MSRP is $230 and the 1060 6gp is $250. Both of them suffer from a lack of supply but I don't recall the 1060 being "a LOT more expensive."

>>56003484
>You do realize that the 1060 is a LOT more expensive, right?

really now. i can pick up a 1060 aib for the same price as a reference 480 8gb and cheaper than the cheapest aib 480.

let me rephrase that for you:

You do realize that the 480 is a LOT more expensive, right?

>>56003498
1060 was available for 280 when I checked 3 days ago at newegg with an aftermarket cooler, not founders edition.

>>56003504
if you live in a yuropoor country sure

>>56003515
Anecdotal. What about today?

>>56003262
Even that is a misrepresentation. It is balanced in the sense that it is designed to run on basically any hardware that can theoretically support dx12 most basic feature set.
Like damn even if you designed it to include all features supported by the gtx1000 and rx400 cards and said to hell with older generations it would perform much better without even getting into vendor specific optimizations.
It's true that on average "across the board" meaning from the old to the new Nvidia performs better, but in modern titles which do utilize modern API features and even some vendor specific optimizations the gap closes significantly or even flips.
So it just depends what you are looking for and what you expect to play in the future. I'm willing to bet a lot of smaller or mid-sized studios won't be switching to dx12 for a few more years, but at that point it will be the new standard and dx11 will go the way of dx9 for legacy support.
It's this reason that if you don't plan on upgrading again for 4-5 years (like me) a rx480 would be better, unless you also play a lot of older games.
People always try to peg it as one beats the other in absolutes when it's more dynamic than that.

>>56003521
>i-it doesn't c-count if it's in europe

like clockwork. incoming damage control.

>>56003539
>Even that is a misrepresentation.
Pardon? Are you claiming that Time Spy has any vendor specific optimizations?

>It is balanced in the sense that it is designed to run on basically any hardware that can theoretically support dx12 most basic feature set.
That's not an aspect of being balanced. That's an aspect of being a benchmark for DX12. What kind of benchmark for DX12 would it be if it didn't run on any hardware that is DX12 compatible?

I'm beginning to think you are intentionally trying to act like an idiot.

>>56003541
everything is taxed to fuck there, not just gpus. so why even take it into consideration?

>>56002803
>full dx12 that takes advantage of full hardware specific feature
so you want a tech demo instead of a benchmark?

>>56003567
do you realise how stupid you sound right now?

>>56003465
The stock price isn't just about the 480. It's about AMD's partnerships with Microsoft, Sony, and Apple. Private equity firms are dumping cash into AMD. Intel is abandoning the x86 market because profits aren't high enough anymore

>>56003498
Shut up pajeet, the 1060 has never been available for its MSRP

>>56003504
Are you europoo? Obviously you don't count

>>56003581
t. mad yuropoo

>>56003528
Now it's $259.

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814487261

>>56003613
>the 1060 has never been available for its MSRP
I've seen Zotac (read: Sapphire) 6gb versions for $250 but I've never seen a 480 for sale at MSRP. I guess it is reasonable to conclude that the "a LOT more expensive" was just more AMDrivel and misrepresenting the facts.

>>56003620
And cheapest rx480 in stock, $399.

Hmm, which is the better buy?

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=9SIA85V4R42628

>>56003613
You tell me, rx 480 for 400 dollars or gtx 1060 for 260 dollars?

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>>56003613
>>56003618

>amd's shit prices and shit sales numbers don't count because its in europe

KEK

amdrones everyone. have a good look and laugh at them.

>>56002043

Posting this game. You're a Retarddddddddddd!!!!

>>56003484
>You do realize that the 1060 is a LOT more expensive, right?
Actually the aftermarket RX 480 cards that I've seen are more expensive than any GTX 1060. Blame the coin miners for driving up the price. I could go and buy a 1060 right now for $250.

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>>56003613
>>56003618
>Amerifats in burgerland thinking they are the center of everything

>>56003735
When it comes to gpus? Are Nvidia and AMD Euro companies or US companies?

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>>56001829
>futureproof

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>>56001958
werd

>>56003763
So newer and stronger CPUs reduce driver overhead on AMD cards?
That's nothing new, you won't get this with dx12 or vulkan.

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>>56001975

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>>56003745
>this question

what has this got to do with sales? you're trolling right? going by your own logic nvidia wil have blown the fuck out of amd because nvidia sells truck loads in the usa compared to amd.

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>>56001982
>I love the green cock

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>>56002062
>I chose to cut my dick in half for a cum pouch

>>56003763

>>56003357 and >>56003798

>>56003834
>posting gtx 480 memes when 1080 is out
Wew lad

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>>56002296

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>haha fuck off with those cherry picked benchmarks, they don't count!
>let me show off my cherry picked benchmarks, they're legit btw :^)

What has this board come to. Also
>future proof
>~250 dollar card
By the time where there would be a ''significant'' difference between these two cards, both would be low tier garbage anyway.
Just look at the 760's and r9 270's, they're absolute garbage nowadays, no matter how you twist it.

>>56003775
Make the same graph, but with the 3GB model 1060. I fucking dare you.

>>56003862
>more cherrypicking
welp at least Fail X is justifying its price over the 1070.
>but muh Fail X is just 300usd
Not everyone lives in murrica

>>56003862
I don't even see a 1060 in there.
What the fuck is wrong with you? Get your glasses already you cheap cunt. That's what you get for using a 720p desktop you poor sack of shit, you start losing your eyesight.

Of course only an AMDfag could be this poor

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>>56003079
470 4GB is best card atm price/performance. 480 8GB depending on what you play. Nvidia seems to have dropped the ball there. Nothing near a 480 4GB or 470 4GB model at those prices.

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>>56003178
>1070
>4k monitor
Pick one.

>>56003647
>I haven't seen it
>nvidiots are blind too

AMD's reference cards were available at MSrP for a long while after launch. It was definitely hard to get one, as even you might expect.

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>>56001975
>On average, when using Vulkan, a 1060 is 27.13% better than a 480.
DELET THIS

>>56003862
>Fury X anally ravaging the 1070
Shut it down!
Shut it down!
Shut it down!

>>56001975
>TFW in my country gtx 1060 is cheaper than rx 480

>>56003885
this

futureproofing with these budget mainstream cards is a meme. they will barely last 2 years just like the 960 and 380 are nearly 2 years old and can't run the latest games at decent settings 60 fps for shit. just get the faster or cheaper card based on what you want. right now the 1060 is the cheaper and faster card so it's the obvious choice for me. everyone is different.

>>56003920
the fury x is like £100 more expensive than a 1070 here lol and is slower in 90% of games. i can't believe people still shill for that absolute garbage card. you'd have to be a seriously deluded fanboy to do that.

>all those AMD benchmarks using the latest i7 at 5Ghz
And you guys say Nvidia is cherry picking.
I still remember that test that with a mid range cpu where 1060 walked all over the 480 even on those "DX12" and "Vulkan" games

>>56003925
Op was asking comparing between the 480 and 1060.>>56003925

>>56003968
960 can still run every new game on ultra or high you retard.

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>>56003925
Amada!

>>56003992
proof aside from hardware unboxed nvidia shill site?

>>56001829
Obviously the 480. Nvidia is going to end of life the 1060 in 10 months.

>>56004023
And how will they do that?

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>>56003735
Pump your brakes Ahmed.


Cool clock tho.

Vulcan is an amd cheat

>>56004019
>any proof I don't like is just shilling
fuck off

>>56004014
>960 can still run every new game on ultra or high you retard.

are you dense or what? it runs at like 30 fps at ultra settings in the latest games.

>>56004029
Gimp their cards, like usual.

>>56004019
>hardware unboxed nvidia shill site

he's recommended amd many times in many videos and is probably the least biased out of any reviewer out there now. neck yourself.

I'm coming from a 7850.

Thinking about getting a 480.

Anyone have any idea just how much of a performance jumps it will be? I would like it to be fairly significant.

Also, this 7850 has lasted me 4 years. Guessing a 480 could do the same?

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>>56004018

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>>56004055
Nice meme brah xD

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>>56003949

>>56004019
Just google it. It comes down to whether the game is CPU intensive or not. If you're playing something like ashes of singularity, you're gonna profit from a high end CPU with hyper threading. If the game isn't that heavy on the CPU side, you won't gain much.

>>56001829
1060 is obviously better

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>>56004036

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>>56004081

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>>56004055
>doesn't post any source

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ZEN processor's release date is December 7th 2016. Vega series GPU is set for January 13th 2017.

>>56003464
anything with gameworks

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Next summer the fun begins.

Fury 2 and Fury X 2 (Vega 11)
RX 590 (Vega 10)
RX 580 (Vega 10)
RX 570 (p10 new stepping of 480)
RX 560 (p10 new stepping of 470)
RX 550 (p11 zen APU's with 2/4GB of HBM next stepping of 460)

Is there any reason to buy AMD anymore? They're so underwhelming

>>56004257
>Is there any reason to buy AMD anymore?

Literally no. Everything they put out is ass these days.

>>56004257
unless you're a fanboy, no.

>>56004279
>>56004286
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Gonna upgrade to a 1070 today, this should be fun

>>56004311
Good, goyim. That's the way you're meant to be played.

>>56004110
No async? Are you saying those four guys cant shoot all at the same time?

>>56004221
>waitfags
kys

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>>56004311

>>56004081
What is a good PSU for this card?

>>56004329
>>56004411

Hmm, let's see.

Option 1: get mediocre performance now, card ages well, get mediocre performance in 4 years when I finally upgrade.

Option 2: get great performance now, card doesn't age as well, doesn't scale as well in dx12/vulkan, gives mediocre performance in 4 years when I'm going to upgrade anyways.

>>56003816
>what has this got to do with sales?
Who said anything about sales? Moving the goalposts?

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>>56004311
Are the 10xx the worst cards Nvidia ever made?

>>56004163
[citation needed]

>>56004425
Well said, my good goy. Although you will have to buy a new card in less than 2 years but that's a small price to pay, right?

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>>56004425
Nvidia cards actually age much better than AMD because they are made much better and have way better support.

Pic related. AMD cards just fail at a ridiculously high rate.

>>56004573
How much are Puget and Nvidia paying you?

>>56004614
bout tree fiddy

>>56004483
kek how long were you planing on using that piece of shit? Sorry my man, but not having roughly 200 bucks every second years seems kinda poor to me.

>>56004279
>>56004286
>>56004329
>>56004311
damn the samefagging is real

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>>56004573
Yeah pretty much this too.

Let's not forget how eager they were to drop hd6000 series.

6970 should be between the 950 and 960, not this far behind a 950.

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>>56004743
Is it?

This "buy rx 480" meme reminds me of "do SS and GOMAD" troll.

>>56004774
AMD are too lazy to make drivers for their VLIW4 cards. Meanwhile Fermi and kepler are still having updates

>>56004791
Is photoshop easy to use?

>>56005258
yea if placebo effect counts as drivers

>>56005292
>placebo effect
What?
770 is matching a 960 in many modern titles, if it was merely placebo it'll be trailing behind like the VLIW cards from AMD.

>>56005540
keep telling yourself that you are reinstalling the same driver over and over again if its on legacy support, ie anything bu the 10 series

>>56001829
Gcn doesn't seem to change any time soon, I would say any gcn gpu is going to be better in longevity at this point

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>>56005575
(you)

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I wish you guys would stop with this /v/-level, platformwars-tier shitposting.

And tell me when Sapphire's 480 is gonna be back in stock

Lots of Autistic MegaDrones in this thread

>>56001829
Well they are both new cards with support for about 15 months.

Currently - 1060
More future proof - Nobody in here is a fucking Nostradamus even though AMD shills claim otherwise.

Any other answer is objectively wrong or malicious.

>>56006226
>1060
doesn't support dx12 its a shit buy in the long run

OP here, thanks for teh advice guys.
I decided to buy the rx480 because in canada it is cheaper by a 100 bucks than the 1060, which only gives extra 15% performance but overpriced jew crap and doesnt do as well in dx12 and vulcan therefore not that futureproof.
480 wins for me.
too fuckin bad it;s still out of stock.
i'll have to get the fuckin 1060 if it wont restock within a month.

>>56006660
you could look into a RX 470 since some of the non reference RX 470s can get on par with a reference RX 480 if it doesnt come back in stock

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>>56002043
>>56001975
In Doom using vulkan its literally 34% shittier than the 480.

HARDOCP: "AMD Radeon RX 480 simply blows the GeForce GTX 1060 out of the water in terms of performance. While both are allowing a very high post 60FPS performance, AMD Radeon RX 480 takes it to a new level and even beats out the GeForce GTX 980!"

>>56006724
They really don't..

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>>56003357
>>56003376
>>56003763
>>56003798

>>56006777
>by using an overclock and recent i7.
How about an i5 or something that an RX 480 or 1060 would most likely have?

>>56006901
Most people who buy those will have an i5 6400, 6500, or i3 6100.

The 6100 and 6400 will suffer, the 6500 will suffer less.

>>56006901
I guess, but that still wouldnt make up for 32% (not 34*) of difference.

>>56006901
Vulkan also boosts cpu performance, i bet even i7 970 would be good enough with vulkan

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>>56006917
>>56006928
If only hardware unboxed used some recent i5 or i3 ones

>>56006969
>this site noones ever heard of shows a difference.
not trying to argue the 480 is better as I could give less shits, but if you're going to quote something use a reputable site.

>>56006856
>>56006969
>fast, but inefficient, not even sure if my I5-6500 can power it (it favors i7's)
can people stop it with this fucking bullshit. you don't need a fucking pile of shit skylake i7. it doesn't favor it. it doesn't favor anything. as long as you're not running a potato from fucking 2009 with core 2 quad performance you are fucking fine. fucking shit /g is full of blatant imbeciles that parade around acting like they know shit.

>tldr
all you need is a 2500k or higher. technically a 3ghz nehalem. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.
>tldr #2
all pic shows is the processor bottlenecking the 480. this is NOT a driver overhead issue as explained above. with async enabled, the 480 processes a lot of data and the potato processor x4 955 from 2009 with core 2 quad level of performance cannot keep up with the 480's async.
>tldr #3
nvidia does not have async enabled in doom - vulkan. all it benefits from is less driver overhead compared to opengl. this is why the increase from opengl to vulkan with both the 955 and 750 is the same 12fps. if you looked, with the 955 the increase on the 480 too is 10fps. similar to the 1060. with the 750 the 480 jumps to a 18fps increase, higher than the 1060's, because it enters a level of cpu performance that's able to start keeping up with the 480's async performance.
>tldr #4
i don't understand why they went from a 09/10 processor all the way up to essentially 2015/16 processor. little more than half a decade of improvements. but honestly, by seeing the leap from the awful 955 (core 2 quad level) to 750 (2.6ghz first gen nehalem), a 2500k should be more than enough. and if its the k, there is zero reason why it should not be overclocked to a minimum of 4.2ghz with a 212 evo slapped to it.
>tldr #5
all you need is a 2500k or higher. haswell or above is absolute sweetness. you do not need the latest and greatest i7.
>tldr #7
you don't need the latest & greatest i7 even in dx11

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>>56006986
There are other sites that have tested this before, as well as users in forums

>>56007022
>copypasta and didn't provide evidence
kys

>>56006856
>>56006969
>>56007061
i guess this debunks the AMD gpus are future proof? Or rather it will be Future proof in the way that they upgrade their cpu to see better gains and be more costly in the end?

>>56004065
pretty sure youll get at least double your performance

>>56007140
Well they do definitely see more gains in dx12 than kepler and Maxwell did, but they need stronger CPUs, so they're not more futureproof unless you're upgrading everything else in your pc but the graphics card

>>56003147
0.1 rupees have been deposited into your street shitting account

>>56001829
I've got a GTX 770. Should I get another 770 and SLI or should I get an RX 480 or 1060?

I can find a GTX 770 for £100, meanwhile a GTX 1060 is £260+ and RX 480 is £240+

I'm on a budget, what would be my best course of action?

>>56009141
Never go full retard never go sli or crossfire.

Get single card, get the one that suits games your needs more

nvidia cards: can't play games 2 years after launch
amd cards: can't play games until 2 years after launch

>>56002176
What movie is that from?

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>>56003897
There is no 3GB 1060

>>56009259
X-Files, season 3, episode 12

>>56001829
RX470

>>56001829 Pascal will get mac drivers later this month. Polaris wont.

always been amdfag and have r9 270x. was thinking about upgrade to rx 480 but gtx 1060 seems like objectively the better card. however I'm not sure about the dx12 performance. maybe 1060 will be better now but rx480 will be more future proof?

How is the zotac mini gtx 1060?

>>56001829

>futureproof

They'll both be obsolete when the next series of cards are released. Enjoy playing gaymes on medium and low settings.

>>56009571
But because of DX12/Vulkan RX 480 will last longer. Meanwhile GTX 1060 will be left in the dust.

>>56001975
/thread

also Vulkan is DOA and nvidia is doing fine in dx12

>>56002043
ROFL amd rekted in their own Vulkan api

>>56002103
>vulkan
Vulkan is DOA and nvidia is doing fine in dx12

gtx 1060 > rx 480

>>56009613
>vulkan
Vulkan is DOA and nvidia is doing fine in dx12

gtx 1060 > rx 480

>>56003775
A 1440p 144hz monitor costs $700. In order to tell the difference you would literally have to spend 3x the card price. I get future proofing, but that is overkill in both bases.

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>>56009533
zotac gtx 1060 amp is much better

>>56009664
Any sag?

>>56002469
amd doesn't have the money for R&D of a completely new architecture.

>>56009656
A Gsync one maybe, mine was $400. That's a huge advantage AMD has because who cares if Nvidia can put out a few percent more fps at a similar price point when you have to spend hundreds more for a monitor to get the most out of it?

>>56009778
They sure did when hd6870 was selling like hotcakes

>>56001829
If you streaming games you can use shadowplay which is only in nvidia

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>>56001829
970 for half the price

>>56010810
>legacy card not fully dx12 compliance
Top kek, Nvidia fanboy. Just put your money in a paper shredder, is faster.

>>56009141
RX 480

>>56009648
Fact of the matter is that its still losing to the RX 480 90% of the time.Doesn't mattter how much money nvidia thorws at it,the 10XX series still dosent have a hardware scheduler,and in a year or two the 480 is going to be faster that the 1060 by a good margin simply because AMDs hardware is better suited for dx12.

>>56001829
>which one is more futureproof
rx480

>and better current value performance
rx480

>-to-price wise?
rx480

you're welcome. Don't ever buy Nvidia. Ever.

This thread seems like overkill when anyone that bothered lurking tech sites already knows the answer to the question. Has to be troll.
>RX 480 is better in the long run due to async compute and DX 12
>GTX 1060 is better for any game that uses DX 11 or older
>480 is more futureproof but 1060 is better value for NOW
Doesn't matter because scalpers fucked up the market.

>>56001829
/g/ is NOT your personal tech support team or personal consumer review site.

>>56001829
480. 1060 is only slightly better for more money and gimped performance in dx12/vulkan.

If you're buying nvidia, I don't know why you're even considering a 1060. Poorfags should stick with amd. Don't ignore the meme.

>>56009787
Which one did you get?

>>56001975
/thread

>>56009979
>streaming yourself
fraking normie! where do you think you are?
i only use 2000$ gaymen pc for obliterating normies in csgo.

>>56001829
Sure non-reference RX 480 is better
At least it supports DX12 actually
Also you will have the DisplayPort 1.4 HDR which is futureproofest thing for today

>>56015574
Are you saying that's what the RX480 has? Because the GTX 1060 has that as well.

OP are you a poorfag? Go AMD, they're designed for poor people and consolefags.

After working at AMD for a while I can honestly say their outlook isn't good. They start and stop so many projects, waste so much money on shit they should finish and take away from their core business that I am surprised they're still afloat. Their stock prices reflect the management's decisions. If they stuck to their guns to once and got a good project completed maybe they'd gain back enough marketshare for people to give a fuck again. Easily one of my worst jobs as far as achieving goals goes.

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>>56016066
Yeah man if you dont buy a new GPU every year you're fucking poor.

Nvidia just put my 980ti on Legacy, shit was so cash. Just a year ago it was "The fastest single gpu" and now its complete shit because it cant run DX12. Good thing I'm gonna SLI 3 Titan X P's for 2016.

Hahaha fucking AMDpoors.

>>56016677
What does "legacy" mean? Does that mean they are going to stop making drivers for it? Does that mean they are going to stop making improvements to it via software, aka mainline drivers? Does that mean it will magically stop working overnight?

Or does it mean that it is no longer current hardware because new technology has been released?

>>56016707
I dont know and I don't give a fuck, I'm throwing this in the trash! Can't wait to get that sweet Nvidia dicking next year.

>>56015574
Having an i5 4690 I have a sneaking suspicion that DX 12 improvements won't matter fuck all.

>>56016733
>I dont know
Let's make this perfectly plain. You are complaining about essentially nothing?

>>56001829
>budget cards
>future proof
>>>/v/
both will cover the next 12 months as HBM2 becomes affordable/available.

>>56016768
I ain't complaining! Why would I complain against Nvidia? What am I, some freetard nigger posting on an anonymous imageboard full of basement dwellers?

>>56016791
>I ain't complaining!
Then why did you post:
>Nvidia just put my 980ti on Legacy
If you aren't complaining? Are you an idiot who honestly believes or expects gpu technology to stand still and your gpu is going to be "the fastest single gpu" for longer than a year or two?

>>56009664
Another asking for if there's sag, what are your temps?

I hear it can get toasty but I'm looking at one in my Amazon basket.

>>56016677
AMD and Nvidia have different definitions for legacy, and based from your post and reaction it's pretty obvious you're a false flagging AMD fanboy.

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>>56002043
Talos Principle is shit
It's developed for Android and iOS
It does not even have the tesselation because engine does not support it at all
Just like shitty dota2 based on engine from 2004
>>56002142
>Nvidia fucked the pci spec for years and nothing bad has happened.
>nothing bad has happened
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message_Signaled_Interrupts
>It has also been observed that some motherboards with Nvidia nForce chipsets have broken MSI support. As a result, when NVidia enabled the MSI support on their graphics card drivers for the first time, many users of the nForce-based motherboards complained of instability, what was eventually traced back to the MSI implementation of the motherboard
>>56016052
Nice try Nvidia shill
>>56016707
Legacy means they will got only security driver updates if got it at all

>>56017906
>Legacy means they will got only security driver updates if got it at all
[citation needed]
Last I checked, Nvidia stopped providing improvements, or mainline drivers, to the 400 series and previous cards in 2014. That is long after they became "legacy" cards.

>>56017960
400 series is still getting improvements iirc, it's 200 series they just dropped

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>>56017906
They make it legacy because Nvidia was sued for 3.5GB "meme"

>>56018019
Ah. Only the 405 is part of the list.

>>56001829
Futureproofing, 1060
Performance per dollar, 480

>>56018181
Explain the 1060 being more future proof? Only plan I had was waiting for it to break at 4 years and trying to get a better one through RMA.

>>56018071
Really surprised at this legacy meme though. I knew /g/ was autistic, but never thought they'd be this retarded kernel of autistic

>>56018284
That would require being sensible and actually thinking instead of parroting talking points. Fanboys (from either camp) aren't known for that.

>>56018215
The 1060 is objectively better performance-wise, but the 480 beats it on performance-per-dollar. Honestly the 1070 beats them out in both departments. Best performance-per-dollar of anything released so far this generation.

>>56001829
Like other recent AMD GCN cards, the RX 480 is more future proof and higher price-to-perf than its closest Nvidia counterpart, at the cost of being hotter/more power thirst and generally embarrassing to own.

>>56018353
True, but that's another price bracket all together.

DX 12 has nice promise for AMD but I have and i5 which brings it merely to developer preference and support.

>>56003261
What a fake by Nvidia shill
GTx 1060 does not have SLI support at all

>>56018543
(you)

>>56018504
Fair enough. My logic is, pay $300 now and pay another $300 in two or three years, or pay $400 and be set for five.

>>56018608
UK here, my choice is pay £400 or pay 260 and use it until it pops.

>>56018700
Ouch. Sounds like the latter

>>56018823
Yeah, was too risky to import one from the US.

cheapest one is £360 but it's KFA and two year warranty, fuck that.