/retro/ - Retro Computer General

I still wish they had those half-vertical cases

I don't think I know any school that keeps those things? Where do you live?

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>>55985019
I wish that I had a horizontal chassi so I could have my monitor on it and get more comfy.

>>55985098
The UK. Probably part of some science thing that was taken apart. I need to turn it on and see if it doesn't burn my house down.

>>55984597
We used to hurl those things into the skip.
Some staff wanted to give them to the poorer kids so they could have a PC. But that would result in some sweaty truck-driver in a wife-beater demanding that we "fix" his free 386 so it could run his hacked copy of Crysis.

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>>55984597
Just turned it on. No house fire, but sadly:
a) monitor doesn't pick up any signal (it isn't a CRT so it might not anyway)
b) doesn't sound like it's -doing- anything. The HDD gives a couple of customary clicks, but after that, nothing. No beep from the mobo either. Not sure how to proceed.

>>55985497
Make sure the PC speaker is connected
Pull the RAM

You should get beep codes.

>>55985497
You need the key

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Picked up these two shitboxes for $5 each today, the Millennia looks like a pretty reasonable near-top end 1998 vintage box and I don't know much about the other one, probably an ex-486/33 or 66 with an AMD 5x86-133 upgrade. Hopefully it's got better shit in it than the 486/66 turned budget Pentium-133 shitheap I grabbed last week.

>>55984597
>>55985497
Post some guts shots, curious to see what's in it. Always loved those minitower cases.

It should output a signal to any run of the mill VGA LCD, it just might look like shit until Windows loads up. Try doing what the other guy said and pulling/testing the sticks, might need to do multiple sets of two or four if it won't work with one in it. It's also a good idea to disconnect extraneous shit that isn't needed for power-on like IDE controllers, sometimes conflicts or storage fuckups can prevent systems from POSTing for whatever reason.

>>55985622
That just locks the keyboard, doesn't stop it from booting. Really easy to pull it anyway.

>>55985652
Nicely done, they include the HDD too?

>>55985652
I've always kind of wanted to rip out the insides and put modern hardware in there.

I have a Thinkpad T23. Don't know what to do with it. Should I try eBay?

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Found a server with a case like pic related two months ago. Decent case with shit loads of space (enough for 2 PSU's) and has that great 90's aesthetic. All solid steel minus the front facia. It'd use it as my main case had I not already bought one.

>>55985865

you trying to trigger us ?

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>>55985827
Wasn't expecting it, but they both did. The newer box has presumably the original 6/8GB drive in it plus some 40GB piece of shit they threw in later on, just cracked open the older one and it's got a 540 MB dark-age Maxtor drive in it they must have thrown in as an upgrade along with a new clock chip and a sound card+optical drive in 1994.

>>55985865
It's a pretty good time to be looking out for candidate boxes. Don't kill anything cool though, of course.

>>55985874
What's the machine type? Should be an XXXX-XXX number/letter string next to the barcode on the bottom of the system. PIII laptops can be fun little toys.

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Look wat I picked up in the woods for free

did I do good /g/ ?

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>>55985974
anything good in it? gotten some pretty good shit in full tower beige boxes

>>55986031
The fuck was that doing in the woods?

>>55985997
A lot of models back in the day were shit.

I'm not advocating destroying the cooler ones, just the useless ones. Even then you're hardly destroying them.

What, how? Tech bins or garbage bins?

>>55986012
>What's the machine type?
TYPE 2647-2F3 S/N 78-XFL9C 06/02

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>>55986061

there is a very small "village" garbage pile near my home in the woods and there was this thing, which is possibly the last thing you expect to be there and very few locals visit it.

I had to hide it until I came back with my wheelbarrow to roll it home thru the woods and the thing is in mint
and Is probably worth a LOT of money !

(one is selling on Ebay for over $1000 !)

probably the best score ever

>>55986031
A sony wega crt tv?

>>55984597
I, well my uncle had the very same box at least if not the guts inside. that one was 16Mhz, 33 when turbo was on

>>55986223
Like the dump in animal crossing?

>>55986297

Its actually a Sony FW-900 which is the best CRT monitor ever made, that anon did good !

>>55986223
it looks so natural like that... you should have left it.

Unrelated but what's your guys' favorite "retro" feeling font?

>>55986587
This:
http://dl.dafont.com/dl/?f=atari_st_8x16_system_font

>>55986215
Nothing on that type in either the personal systems reference or Google, sure that's what it is?

Just curious exactly which T23 you've got, though really any of them are probably decent for messing around. I've got a bunch of P6-era laptops including a couple T22s running Windows 2000, still just fine for the textual web and the tons of applications you can get for them.

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Did a fresh install 15 years ago and never touched it till now. Works nice but it can't find any repo...

>>55986031
lmao

>>55985652
Lucky fuck. This is basically the kind of thing I'm looking for but months of searching have been fruitless.

>>55987093
I wish old Linuxes were still usable, KDE 1.x is really nice and I've always wanted to really experience the early days of the free software scene.

Running Red Hat on a Pentium Pro box at the moment and it's basically fucking useless, considering sticking NT4 or Solaris on it instead.

>>55987127
Don't give up yet, they made millions of them.

Honestly don't really think you're missing out on much, though, those old tower cases and AT boards were god awful, I prefer OEM gear.

Sup guise i need a cool old pc case with alot of space, recommend me one plesae

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>>55987203
If you find a copy of Unixware, give it a try. It's also useless, just like NT or Solaris... But it's a really nice System.

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>>55987418
You can try CDE right now if you've got *nix.

>>55987418
That's a pretty good idea, I like Solaris' CDE implementation (other than the fucking World Wide Meme clock) a little more than vanilla but it really is absolutely fucking useless on x86 except for maybe development.

NT's actually surprisingly usable though, run it on all of my good 1996-1999 era stuff, NT4 is practically a more enterprise-y feeling Windows 95 with shit DOS/games compatibility but a rock solid foundation, I like it. If only stuff like wireless networking and USB weren't kludgy hacks.

>>55986692
not bad

>>55986047
It's dual CPU board but for old Socket 603 CPUs (only one CPU installed). Had 2GB of ECC DDR RAM which was nice. Some SCSI and RAID cards but they're old and have no drivers for anything after server 2003. HDD's were SCSI but they drilled them. The best bit was the Ultrium 232 tape drive but it appears to be broken. Diagnostics software reported some calibration error with the tape head.

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>>55988109
Picture of it. Forgot that all drive face plates are missing too. The other huge case is the Proliant G5 ML350. Found that mofo in another skip. Could probably sell it for a good price but it weighs a ton.

>>55988109
>>55988191
sucks about the missing stuff but still sounds pretty nice especially if that board has an AGP slot, could have a bitchin' early 2000s workstation setup with that stuff

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>>55986223
kek

PC Pentium 4 2.4GHz, ATI Radeon AX800 Pro
IBM Thinkpad 600E Pentum II 400MHz
Compaq Presario 1200 AMD K6 450MHz
Compaq Armada 7750MT Intel Pentium MMX 166MHz
Aristo FT4000 Intel i486DX 66MHz
what do you think about my little collection?

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>>55992392
Also got this pretty thing the other day!

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>>55992402
Really nice, what are the specs?

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>>55992629
The PC is a BLUE CHIP (Hyundai rebrand) XT clone from the mid 80's, I have messed around with it a little, like adding a NEC V20 and 8087 math co-processor and EGA graphics card, with Hercules and CGA emulation and monochrome EGA, had an Hercules board originally, replaced the 5.25' drive with a black 3.5' one, it also has a working ethernet NIC to use with mTCP stack, still has original MFM 20MB hard drive and runs DOS 3.30. Want to find a memory expansion board for it in the future, right now it has 1MB with 512KB usable for the system, also a 8-bit ISA Sound Blaster or clone if I see one for cheap.

The little laptop is a Compaq Contura 430C, a 486DX4 with 8MB RAM, I had a visually exactly similar machine ages ago, a Compaq Armada, but that had a Pentium.
I also ordered a RAM upgrade for it, just happened to find one for cheap on eBay.

Pic related is the A600, too lazy to type.

>>55992402
That's a really cute one!

>>55992392
>>55992670
Man, I always wanted an Amiga.

>>55992722
Thanks! Yeah, they are awesome!

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>>55992723
Also added a little fan the other day to the A600, cold as ice now!

>>55992734
Keep em cool and going!

>>55986031
>>55986223
Have you tested it already?

>>55986031
Topkek

I wish my PC could read my 5.25" drive.

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I honestly don't know how I missed this thread, sorry guys.

IBM 5511. I found one for $60. Just the computer, no peripherals, not sure if it works past POSTing.

Would it be worth getting even if it's broken? I really like the case design. Would probably restomod if the internals are no good.

>>55993287
There are ways to accomplish that

>>55993297
If you really really want it, sure, it's not that expensive.
Unless the internals have corroded it's really hard for that old stuff to break.
Any more info about it?

I feel like I'd be fine having a retro machine around for the nostalgia if it were a laptop.

>>55993354
Get one?

>>55993324
From the ad:

"IBM jx(5511) 1984 vintage. When powered on POST beep sounds and fans spin up. Comes with keyboard cable. Front two clips that hold the front pannle on are broken. Floppy drives are untested."

Not much to go on, but I know that shipping is probably going to cost another $30-40, and I don't know if the guy will even want to bother.

>>55993421
So around $100 total? That's quite pricey, I know it's quite a rare one thought.
I usually only buy local ad's that go for a few bucks, not that crazy about rarity.

I'd say if you want exactly that machine, then you're probably going to have to get it.
If you want just a PC compatible from that time, I bet you can find better.

>>55993421
On another note, these guys arrived today.

Pentium I, 166 MHz, 24 MB RAM, 8 GB hard drive, just waiting on a PS/2 to 5-pin DIN adapter to arrive so I can use a keyboard with it. Should have Windows 95 running on it currently, along with a few classic games.

>>55993506
That's nice, great retro gaming machine!

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>>55993506
Forgot the picture.

>>55993504
I'm more interested in the case than the guts, honestly. That aesthetic really appeals to me, though I'd like to find something in a similar style that's totally black. I might see if the guy will ship it.

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>>55993518
Thanks, I got it for about AU$160 including the shipping with about 5 minutes left on the auction. It was stressful as fuck trying to get my old paypal account working.

>>55993525
Pic related is the graphics card, I honestly don't know what it is - up until now I've only known about nVidia, ATI, and a bit of VooDoo.

>>55987093
That's fucking brilliant!! I love the look of the early versions of KDE. Those fonts are great too. Really cool that it's been preserved untouched for so long.

Should i dig up and post my Pentium MMX laptop or my older still Toshiba laptop? Both still work BTW.

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>>55993581
And here's the sound card. I think it's an ESS ES186X? Not sure if it's good, bad, or average. I'll just have to see how it sounds once I've got it hooked into my dad's old Marantz setup.

>>55993597
Yeah, KDE 1.x and 2.x where amazing in looks.

>>55993581
>Thanks, I got it for about AU$160 including the shipping with about 5 minutes left on the auction. It was stressful as fuck trying to get my old paypal account working.

You should really start looking into local stuff if you're interested in old computers like that, thrift stores, local ad's, places people bring their old shit to be recycled, ways to get those things for mere pennies.

>Pic related is the graphics card, I honestly don't know what it is - up until now I've only known about nVidia, ATI, and a bit of VooDoo.

Nice! It's a S3 Vision 968, written on the chip right there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S3_Graphics

>>55993627
>Toshiba laptop
Does it have a orange monochrome LCD? I loved those! I used to have one when I was younger!

>>55993635
It's a SB compatible card with "meh" quality, nothing bad though.

>>55993728
nope, I think its a 16-bit color screen. I have no earthly clue what CPU the thing has, only that its about 2 inches thick, looks like a grey brick, and runs windows 95.

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Just rescued a NEC PC-9821 laptop. Everything works great except the external 3,5 floppy. It tries to read them then this error message pops up. Any ideas what it means? Sorry for the godawful picture but I can't get a better one.

Is this really a thing now? Shit I got a fuckton of old parts. Do people pay money for this?

>>55993748
Ah, nice, but I already got my hopes up!

>>55993772
You must be new here, these threads existed for years, they were just gone for a while.

>>55993728
Those were the original plasma tech screens. Probably not many exist today due to burn in.

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>>55993759

>>55993777
well, I dug it up anyways, its a Toshiba Satellite Pro 425CDT. I'm charging it now, and it should have sufficient charge to allow for startup in a couple of minutes.

Shockingly enough, the battery still holds charge, and a good amount (4hrs) of it too.

>>55993759
Try cleaning the drive and the drive cables with contact cleaner!

>>55993800
Yup, burn in used to be a quite big problem with them.

>>55993816
That's a cool looking thin!

>Shockingly enough, the battery still holds charge, and a good amount (4hrs) of it too.
That's amazing!

>>55986012
Heh a coprocessor socket? is that a 386 or 486 SX?

>>55993713
I though the 968 was just a GPU that S3 distributed to various vendors? I can't find much about the card with google, is all.

As for the thrift store stuff, pretty much everywhere has a policy of tossing out computers in this state. I might be able to find stuff at an e-waste centre, though.

>>55993740
Considering I'll be using this to play a wide range of 90s games, would it be worth looking at upgrading, or is it good enough for the job?

I also have a 5.25" floppy drive coming for this build so I can transfer files to whatever 80s-era computers I collect.

>>55993816
Oh, that's a cool looking laptop.

I'm doubtful of that 4 hour battery charge, though. I used to have a Dell Inspiron 4000, when the battery started to die it would state that it had ~3 hours of charge at 100%, but as soon as it went below about 80% it would crash hard. 80% to 0% took just a few minutes.

If it uses standard NiCad or LiPo cells you might be able to restore it, if it needs it.

>I though the 968 was just a GPU that S3 distributed to various vendors?
The card's all the mostly the same properties and drivers, same like a 980 Ti, does not matter if it's GIGABYTE or ASUS.

>Considering I'll be using this to play a wide range of 90s games, would it be worth looking at upgrading, or is it good enough for the job?
It's SoundBlaster compatible, so yeah, it's fine for old games.

>I also have a 5.25" floppy drive coming for this build so I can transfer files to whatever 80s-era computers I collect.
Smart move!

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>>55993844
Here's the beast BTW. Aside from the drained battery it works fine. Sadly it has no USB ports, and since I have no fucking idea where the external floppy drive went I cant really move stuff to and from it.
I have no proper idea what the CPU is only that it is an old as shit Pentium and that the system has 40MB of ram.

>>55993904
4hr charge is tried and tested, and the battery is Li-Ion. I have 2 more batteries just like it floating around here somewhere and those also hold a pretty significant charge as well.

>>55993937
Pics of external floppy drive?
Might be PCMCIA drive?

>>55993858
See
>>55985652

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>>55993945
Nope, its this wierd-ass port between the serial port and the PCMCIA slots. The external floppy plugs into there.

>>55993989
Gotta hate proprietary shit

>>55993814
>>55993823
Thanks a lot guys. I need to get some contact cleaner and I should try to learn some Japanese before using it more. The previous owner was about to send it to the scrapheap because the soundcard was 'dead' but it turned out he had turned the volume knob down....

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>>55992882

Did I

how does it look ?

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>>55993989
You could still probably get a PCMCIA floppy drive to work and transver USB update and drives to it and use a USB PCMCIA card.
Also one way would be to use Ethernet/Wireless PCMCIA card to transfer stuff.

There are also those really cheap USB multi adapters, then you just can transfer things directly to the hard drive, cheapest option.

>>55994021
That's fucking awesome!

>>55994005
>The previous owner was about to send it to the scrapheap because the soundcard was 'dead' but it turned out he had turned the volume knob down....

TOPKEK!

>>55993989
Yup, that's Toshi proprietary crap. My old Portégé 3480CT had that for external floppy and CD drives.

>>55993937
Those are some damn good batteries, then. What ever happened to the days when gear was build to last?

>>55994030
Well, i'd have to get the drivers for those over in the first place (optical drive is shot, wont open), and since this thing is Win95 there's no guarantee i can get suitable drivers for it in the first place.

Anyways, Im off to dig out the pentium MMX tank of a laptop. Srsly, the thing is huge (~19", maybe a bit less) for a laptop that old.

>>55994005
>>55993823
>Try cleaning the drive and the drive cables with contact cleaner!

I meant, try cleaning the drive contacts and drive cable contract with contract cleaner*

Also the reading heads with rubbing alcohol.

>>55994056
>Anyways, Im off to dig out the pentium MMX tank of a laptop. Srsly, the thing is huge (~19", maybe a bit less) for a laptop that old.
Curious! Can't wait for pics!

>>55994038

its not calibrated, have no idea how to do it, someone was talking something about windas and a cable that you can reprogram this thing

>>55994030
This is a must have basic adapter for anyone dealing with computers!

>>55994095
Well, Google is your friend then.

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>>55994069
Here's the beast next to the Toshiba. Its actually about 17 inches across the panel, of which is a 24-bit 1024x768 LCD display. Processor is a 166mhz Pentium MMX, although there are dip switches under the keyboard that can change that speed from I think 66mhz to 200mhz, although it starts screaming at me if I try for 200.

Unlike the Toshiba, this one runs win2k, and has 2 USB 1.1 ports in the back next to the bigass proprietary docking connector.

>>55994153
Kek, that's awesome

Anyone here run A/UX?

>>55994153
Lets see if I can locate the power brick for this beast. I think its still in my closet. Like the toshiba it still works fine.

>>55994214
I would try it if I had a Mac for it

>>55994224
Well, bad new is, the power brick for the tank is hiding from me deep in my closet.

Good news is, said closet spat the external floppy for the Toshiba out at me instead.

>>55994331
That's great news about the floppy drive!

>>55993635
Is it the camera angle or does it look like the sound card is not properly inserted into the socket?

>>55994453
I reckon you're right, I'll have to make sure everything is seated tomorrow.

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>>55986223
>tfw you come back home and some humanfag stole your TV

>>55994588
KEK

>>55987093
debian supports old versions, just gotta use appropriate "archive" repo

>>55993297
Very sexy looking machine

>>55994588
Pff. You son of a bitch

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>>55984597
GOAT 90s aesthetic coming through

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>>55995245
GOAT 90s aesthetic?

>>55995396
>semitic modernist trash

absolutely disgusting

>>55993361
But where... I really wanna find a dank machine like itt from a trash heap or school or something, but it's never happened... workplace threw out a P3 machine which would've been great for 95/98 and all DOS era games. Horizontal too.

>90s aesthetic
90's where crap in aesthetics, 80's are totally different story though.

>>55995543
A Pentium 3 would be probably too new for DOS gaming, better for Voodoo graphics and Half-Life and Quake.
A Pentium or 486 is a perfect machine for DOS games.

>But where...
Check local ad's, ask around in old computer stores, check recycling centers, thrift stores, generally just ask around people you know if they have or know anyone who does.
Can't recommend eBay, way too expensive.

>>55993525
Now that's an interesting looking box!

>>55994256
I want to try it.

Which of these Macs should I go for?
IIci
IIfx
IIsi (with 68882 chip)
Quadra 700/900/950

I want a Quadra, but they seem hard to find.

>>55995984
I'd get a IIgs and a Quadra 650 or 950.

>>55996039
Why would I want a IIgs? It doesn't support A/UX, does it?

>>55996198
Oh, for A/UX, no.
I was generally talking what old ones I'd get.

For A/UX the 950 would be the fastest machine.

>>55985974
but .....
WHY?

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>>55994021
>how does it look ?

>>55996380
Stop horsing around!

>>55996274
Guess I'll keep a lookout. Some crackhead on the brit Ebay site wants 350 dollars for his 950, fuck that.

>>55996455
Yeah, there's a 650 locally here that's 300€.

>>55995245
>generic white boxes
Aesthetic? Where?

Bumping interesting thread!

>>55994214
Tell us about A/UX! Do you use it?

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sup

>>55997256
What is this?

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>>55984597

BUSINESS

>>55984597
If I want something capable of SSH, how old and shitty can I go processor/RAM wise?

>>55997569

a 66mhz Pentium can do SSH, I'd go for a 133Mhz MMX with at least 32mb of RAM and run Linux.

>>55997584
SSH really requires that much processing power and RAM? I was hoping for an reason to get something older.

>>55997564
YES! Let's get down to business!
How's the 4chan telnet server!?

>>55997622
Yup, it does. You can always use telnet, then you can go really low specs wise.

>>55997622

That's the oldest I've tried it on, a little 66mhz Toshiba Libretto running win95.

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c u t e

>>55997780
Those colorful buttons make it look like a SNES controller, kek.

But yes...

C U T E
U
T
E

>>55993597
looks like fucking windows 95...

>>55997227
I do not, I'm looking for a machine to run it on, though. That site where you can download old Windows versions has A/UX 3.01(?) and 3.1.1 downloads. You can also run it in an emulator, I hear. I might try that today to check it out.

>>55997564
AESTHETIC

>>55997957
Looks clean and non-childish, unlike Aqua or Metro.

The Windows 9x Redmond theme was always the GOAT.

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>>55997993
Best OS theme coming through.

>>55997622
Yea, remember it has to do encryption and decryption.

>>55997977
Correction, Winworldpc only has 3.0, 3.0.1, and the 3.1 update. They also have a 2.x, but I'm not sure who bothers with that.

>>55998012
I agree, it is the best OS theme.

>>55998012
Windows ME?
Best OS ever

>>55998057
ME a shit. 2000 was better in every way except for older DOS-based games which would have run better on 95 or even 98.

>>55997622
According to this, SSH needs a 32 bit processor:
https://www.lysator.liu.se/~lilja/amigassh/

However, I have seen modern encryption algorithms such as RSA and AES implemented on microcontrollers like the atmega128 that can't perform operations on 32 bit values.

>>55998057
Nice bait, kek.

>>55998079
You can pull off SSH even on a 8088, but it's almost useless.
You need a better machine to have secure and useful SSH or just use telnet if you don't care about that.

>>55992734
What's the name/brand of that fan? I have a red one and it's surprisingly quiet despite its cheap price. I've obviously forgotten the name though.

>>55998169
Xilence WhiteBox SlimLine 60mm (COO-XPF60S.W)

It costs almost nothing and it's inaudible at 12V, but amazingly enough pushes a lot of air

>>55998012
>gradients

>>55997564
Who is this beautyling?

>>55998012
Best OS ever.

I really wish it was opensourced so I could roll my own distro and keep it alive.

>>55986223

is that vaporwave

>>55998455
Yes.

>>55993858
It has a hybrid chipset that can take either 386 or 486 chips, probably 486DLCs with FPUs too.

>>55991644
600Es are some of the best ThinkPads ever made, love mine with NT4.

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>>55994214
>>55995984
Go for a Quadra, hands-down. '030s supposedly aren't the best for 3.1.1 and older versions seem kind of lacking. The 610 (with a full '040) and 650 should be easy to come by, and the former has that really nice *nix pizza box feel.

I'd like to put it on my 700 but at the same time it's running really nicely right now and I don't want to touch it, setting up a bridge box to write 7.0.1 disks sounds like a pain in the ass.

>>55998963
What do you think a good price for a 650 would be?
I know someone selling one for a lot and I'm trying to lower the price.

>>55999076
How much do they want for it now?
Is it in good shape and not yellowed to shit?

>>55999121
The computer itself, monitor, keyboard and mouse for 300€.
Slightly yellowed, can see some other defects on the plastics.
No more description about the item.

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>>55998963
>setting up a bridge box to write 7.0.1 disks sounds like a pain in the ass.
What do you mean? I'm not really an expert on old Apple stuff. I used System 7 or 8 a few times when I was younger, but that's about it.

Anyway, I sort of got this going, not sure how to get it actually properly installed on my disk. I didn't read anything of course.

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>>55999260

>>55999272
>by the people
You mean feminists!

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>>55999272

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>>55999285

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>>55999294

>>55999283
this is the retro thread
now mozilla is shit, we know
rip phoenix

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>>55999333
>now mozilla is shit, we know
>rip phoenix

>tfw nice digits post anon is speaking the truth

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>>55999157
Yeah... I don't really know exactly how uncommon Macs were over there with the stiff ST/Amiga competition but that's still way too high, I'd peg it closer to maybe the 80-100€ range. They're not iconic, not particularly well-styled, nor are they anything special under the hood. Hell, I got my 650 (a rarer Centris too) for $5 from a recycler, though that isn't really a realistic going rate.

>>55999166
Guess it's not really writing the disks themselves, it's just that all of my candidate systems to use for writing them are Outrigger boxes and I absolutely hate that case. A/UX reliability and compatibility seems a little flaky, so I'd probably want to set up something to prepare OS media if I need to revert it back to the original system software.

>>55999408
>I'd peg it closer to maybe the 80-100€
Yeah, I offered him 100€ and that I'd take it off his hands right away, he's been selling it for a year now I think

>>55999408
What's the difficulty in setting up OS media? Can the CD-ROM drive equipped ones take regular CD-Rs to install?

>>55999544
Sounds good, wish you luck.

>>55999550
Don't think 7.0.1 ever shipped on CD, and you still need a boot disk even for newer versions if I recall correctly.

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>>55995984
IIsi is shit
The rest are fine choices

>>55985652
Used to use a Micron Pentium 266 a work, good quality computer.

>>55999680
How much for the 950?

>>55999594
So what's the procedure to make boot disks? Buy them?

>>55999717
Download the media off of Macintosh Garden or wherever else, load it into Disk Copy and go. Just takes forever because floppy disks are slower than shit.

>>55986047
christ, is that a wee little screen at the top?

>>55999817
Yes, you didn't need an external monitor, it was a like a early Macintosh.

>>55993989
is it me or does that port kinda look like usb type c, if type c were longer?

>>55999863
It's like a really big Type-C connector.

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>>55999817
it's a door that slides down to let you access the uppermost 2 5.25'' bays and the floppy drive

>>55999692
already parted out
i got $50 for the mainboard and $50 for the psu
had to pay the rent :(

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Oooooh boy guys... local ad asking 235$ for the lot, but what's most important is pic related. I think that's a 5155? The rest of the stuff is just various parts from around that era, and probably like upto 2005 maybe, as a wild guess.

Worth it for the system alone?

This has been a very interesting thread! Good night guys, hope to see a follow up tomorrow.

>>56000267
5155s sell for 60 bucks on ebay, hell no.

>>55987523
nostalgia, my university had sun clients, running CDE - back when software engineering pardon my french wasn't a hipster sport -

>>56000267
Cool box but not $235 cool, especially without a hard drive. Fuck floppy disks.

>>55994588
Damn trolls!

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rescued a cutie, it's a wonderful piece - gifted it to an poor ass friend as retirement insurance

>>56000309
>>56000365
Thanks, def gonna pass.

>>55986223
>(one is selling on Ebay for over $1000 !)

Well one sold yesterday for €26 so that's pretty much a scam.

>>55986223
sounds like something that happens to my dad. dude is like kramer times 10.

>>56000941
proof

>>55997780
I would love a case like this for my phone. buttons on top of the zerolemon type battery.

>>56001016
http://www.ebay.de/itm/CRT-Monitor-SGI-GDM-FW9011-Sony-GDM-FW900-/201636951547

>>56000941

Probably had fucked picture, anything with that price is only good for spares and was probably only local pickup


mine works excellent no problems on startup has better picture then my IPS from about 2015

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SONY-GDM-FW900-24-TRINITRON-WIDESCREEN-PRO-DISPLAY-/272259554960

>>55998234
Thanks, lad.

>>55999333
This, also checked

>>56001049

thats not a genuine Sony

>>56001087
>and was probably only local pickup
Like the one you posted as well?

PROTIP: "Buy it now" prices on ebay are usually scams and auctions won't reach a fraction of that price.

>>56001160
It's the same monitor.

>>56001160
It's just a regular FW900 sold through SGI along with their workstations rather than directly from Sony, pretty much every big-name OEM in the high end had an FW900 rebadge.

>>56001184
>PROTIP: "Buy it now" prices on ebay are usually scams and auctions won't reach a fraction of that price.
HA, they're all scams. The only way you can get a 'deal' on eBay is by buying something no one else wants to buy.

>>56001240
youre a retarded faggot

>>56001240
Auctions are actually a great way to determine the true market value of an item.

With the data available to me right now, the market value for that monitor is closer to €26 than 1000.

>>56001204
yep, people paying more for originals are just trendster morons for not knowing this

>>55994153
I have a Toshiba Satellite 105cs that looks exactly like the one on the left. 75mhz, 540mb deive, can't remember the ram. I still have the pcmcia 4x cdrom for it too. Have not turned it on in forever, I ended up giving it to my sister a long time ago and she gave it back later. I don't think I got the cord back and even though the power supply is integrated into the laptop plugging them in backwards fries them. Maybe someday.

>>56001286
ok faggot
>>56001293
Market value, sure, but what I meant is there are no deals on eBay. Checking for reasonable BINs is the only way to score, these days, and you better dedicate your time to it.

>>56001353
just stop talking. you are not smart.

typical prices for these fw900s are around $ 300-500, if it is fully working and in good condition

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>>55993989
Looks like a mini serial connector.

>>55998371
>I really wish it was opensourced
well, the sourcecode has been available for ~10 years now...

>>55997584
you could try NetBSD as this has a pretty low base footprint for both disk space and memory.

https://www.netbsd.org/ports/i386/hardware.html

>>56001368
Stop posting

bumpsssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Found a pretty neat website that might interest you guys.

http://www.tankraider.com/DOSPALMTOP/list.html

>>55985497
>a) monitor doesn't pick up any signal (it isn't a CRT so it might not anyway)
Why would the display type affect anything assuming it's normal VGA?

>>56000267
I saw one once at a flea market. The CRT was horribly burned and would need to be replaced.
>>56000309
It's just an XT in a portable case; there's nothing special about the 5155.

>>55992670
>The PC is a BLUE CHIP (Hyundai rebrand) XT clone from the mid 80's

My dad had a Blue Chip M120 printer he used with his Commodore 64. I never knew those were a Hyundai product.

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>>55992670
>I also ordered a RAM upgrade for it, just happened to find one for cheap on eBay

In a previous thread, we had a debate on whether you could use modern RAM on a vintage PC if you had an appropriately wired adapter and a step down transformer because current generation RAM uses 1.5V instead of 5V.

>>55986031
is he okay?

>>56003805
I'm pretty skeptical of that. 32-pin SIMMs would expect each pair to not only be the same capacity, but have the same number of chips on them. 72-pin SIMMs only expect each pair to be the same capacity. Not saying it's impossible to rig up some kind of adapter, but it'd probably be more trouble than it's worth.

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is my x61 retro enough? this thing is almost 10 years old.

>>56003869
That's because of how the slots are wired, right?

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>Windows XP, 750mb of ram, 35GB HD, Pentium 4 CPU, no wifi card or working disc drives to upgrade to Windows 7

What do?

>>56003944
usb dvd drive or just a usb drive

>>56003911
>>56003869
I guess if you asked on VCFED, they could give you an exact technical explanation of why RAM would have to go in pairs.

>>56003952
So upgrade to Windows 7 with a usb dvd drive then?

Old TVs and monitors being used with modern computers gives me a hard on. Would it be possible to replace the 9 pin cable on a CGA or EGA monitor with component or composite video?

>>56003944

>windows 7

But why? These things didn't even have AGP or PCI-E for video. You only have PCI and 2 GB memory limit. Stick to XP or lower, possibly even 98se if you get it to work properly.

>>56004061
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=43298
Forgot link.

>>56003944
>Pentium 4 this is considered retro now
Quit making me feel old

>>56003891
I am getting my x40 working right now. I ordered a CF to IDE adapter and a 32GB CF card. I am going to get some lightweight GNU/Linux distro for it. I am also upgrading the ram from 256MB to 1.25GB.

>>56004061
>Would it be possible to replace the 9 pin cable on a CGA or EGA monitor with component or composite video?
CGA already outputs composite video and no because the 9 pin out is TTL RGB.

>>56004061
I want to get a newer computer working with my IBM 5153 display that I got from my university's surplus store. I have been looking for a way to convert it to VGA.

>>56004265
This is a troll, right? Nobody could actually be this dumb.

>>56004297
Why, am I missing something obvious?

http://rkirchhof.com/Electromigration.html

Intwesting.

>>56004366
A 5153 can't possibly accept a VGA signal, silly. They're completely different.

>>56004429
>>56004265
>>56004366
The only way that would work is if you completely replaced the entire CRT and PCB in the monitor with the guts of a VGA one.

>>56004342
How is it that every desktop-formfactor MSX is so damn sexy?

>>56004429
>>56004458
I was wondering if an active adapter existed.

There are a lot of adapters that go the other way:
www.ebay.com/itm/Video-Converter-Board-CGA-EGA-YUV-RGB-TO-VGA-Arcade-Game-Monitor-to-LCD-CRT-PU51-/111867300324

>>56004458
And probably not even then since the 5153s have a 13" CRT and the smallest VGA monitors were 14".

>>56004496
Those are for arcade monitors which generally scan at 15Khz, but have analog and not TTL RGB.

Ironically it's easier to use a VGA monitor with a CGA card because you only need a line doubler to bump the scan frequency to 31Khz, but that won't take care of the intensity pin so you'd be left with only 8 colors.

>>56004537
Right. Getting newer monitors connected to older computers seems to be easier than the other way around, probably in part because nobody bothers to try and reuse old EGA and CGA monitors

>>56004237
This makes me sad. The tube in every CGA and EGA monitor is itself capable of displaying the same millions of colors as any CRT TV or VGA monitor, yet is relegated to showing 16 colors at a time through blocky graphics. Such is the life of an old monitor.

>>55984597
It's obviously a 386DX and probably in the 25-33Mhz range. Fairly typical 1992-93 metal.

>>56004508
youre full of shit. there are plenty of 12" vga monitors

and you people are fucking morons for not knowing what an active adapter is

>>55986223
nobody on /vr/ believes you so you come here?

>>55985652
> Turbo switch verified.

>>55985354

You know, I did that one year.

No good deed goes unpunished, let me reassure you. Not worth my time, not worth my effort, not worth the hassle.

Ehhh? What's the point with having some super old computer? This just seems dumb to do

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Just got home, what did I miss?

>>56005677
What's the point of collecting old coins or furniture or gaming consoles? People do it because they're enthusiasts or just like the old technology what does it fucking matter to you?

How do I ship CRTs? Out of the four that I've sold two broke in transit. Put empty boxes around them?

>>56006393
Also retro related because it was an Imac G3 and PCjr monitor that broke

>>56005696
nice collection anon, I'm jelly

>>56007206
That's not his collection, it's some old pic spammed in retro computer threads.

>>56006393
monitor in box, packed with foam, inside another box, also packed with foam.

Instapak is great, but pretty expensive.

>>56007510
It's pretty much still the same. Although I recently took it all down for a cleaning and reorganized it a bit. Everything works and turns on.

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Posting some guts of my recently arrived computer.

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>>56008096
I think this brown slot is for a COASt module, but I'm not sure.

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>>55985497
>>55984597
OP, I have a hunch as to what could wrong with that PC and it's probably the demonic entity circled here. Please make sure this thing isn't leaking its corrosive guts all over your motherboard.

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>>56008103
And I'm not too sure what these wires are, but they go to my front panel.

>>56004342
>>56004392
>>56005082
The 80s and 90s were such an interesting time in computing. I'm still finding out about obscure but really cool machines that I didn't know existed. Everything is so homogenous and boring now.

>>56003805
Not with a passive adapter, you need a CPLD for example to translate.

The modern chips are higher speed and bandwidth, they just won't work with those old chipsets and CPUs, not to mention not pin compatible.
It's easy to make your own RAM tought for those old machines, find some low capacity SIMM and replace the chips.

>>56004061
>>56004265
>>56004496
>>56004458

You would have to use convert the TTL to analog, it's not that hard at all, mostly the same way video cards convert digital data to analog.
You could probably get away even with a FPGA and DAC.

>>56004537
Source? A scandoubler alone will do the trick?
So VGA monitors that can natiely sync 15kHZ will work out of the box?

>>55993989
Null modem cable.

Get one.

>>56008745
What? We ain't' talking about the serial port.

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I'm planning on running open genera on an X61 sometime next week.

It turns out you can find a copy of it on the pirate bay.

>>56008096
>>56008103
>>56008116
Very nice!

>>56005696
>collecting computers on a rack
Ugh, could be worse, could be in boxes.

>>56008759
Explain? What do we see here?

Suck shit retro fags with your old shit.

>>56009287
Thanks, sure will, but first some Turrican on my Amiga 1200 and then No Man's Sky on my 2x1080 SLI Skylake box.

>>56008433
I agree, the spark is gone nowadays.

>>56008642
Sure, a CLPD could probably work. Also the faster speed of the modern stuff isn't a problem because RAM only has to be equal to or greater than the speed of the motherboard.

>>56008738
>Source? A scandoubler alone will do the trick?
A scan doubler is enough to get it display the signal from the CGA card, but it won't take care of the intensity pin; you'd need to build a more complex circuit for that.
>So VGA monitors that can natively sync 15kHZ will work out of the box?
VGA by definition doesn't run at 15Khz except a few old NEC MultiSyncs from the early 90s.

>>56009779
It actually is a problem, lot of things rely on the speed of the memory, even back then using too fast memory could cause errors.

>>56009779
>>56008642
I imagine you'd have to have an adapter to wire the pins correctly, also most of them would be left unconnected since a 486 board (for example) could only use a tiny part of the SIMM's total capacity. Other than that, there's no magic to modern SIMMs and the pinout of them is functionally the same as an old 30-pin SIMM but with more lines as capacity has grown.

>>56009805
>VGA by definition doesn't run at 15Khz except a few old NEC MultiSyncs from the early 90s.
>VGA by definition

For something to be VGA compatible it needs to support VGA 100%, anything else manufacturers want to add to it is just up to them.
There are way more VGA compatible monitors with 15kHz support than just those old NEC's, also most modern flatscreens can do 15kHz on VGA input.

>>56009807
I've never heard that. I always heard that if the RAM is too slow, it won't work but if it's faster, there's no problem since the system will simply access it at a lower speed.

For example, the IBM XT was listed as using 200ns RAM, but you could install 150ns chips and it would work fine.

>>56009825
VGA per the IBM standard is always 31Khz with a 60/70Hz refresh and separate sync. There were many other analog RGB standards like the Amiga and color Macs which did different things with the refresh and sync pulses.

>>56009838
Yeh but computers of that vintage just used single DIPs, not SIMMs which are (I believe) much pickier.

>>56009838
There are many modern memory expansions using new components for older computers what need to introduce waiting for RAM because else it would produce errors.
Commodore 64, Amiga, Atari, just to name a few.

>>56009851
Exactly, as there are many VGA monitors that support more then just the VGA standard over the VGA connector. Don't see that problem.

>>56009941

new thread

>>56008111
it's just ribbed for your pleasure

>>56010120
Ask in the new thread.

>>56009941
>>56009941