/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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first for eGPU dankpad

>tfw T530 takes a minute and half to start up.
>no make that 2 minutes, it's still going at it.
Can't wait to get an SSD.

I started a new job today and almost creamed my pants as they gave me a T540p, together with a Lenovo keyboard and mouse.

I am even more excited as my T430 is being delivered tomorrow and I was getting second thoughts about the chiclet keyboards after reading so many negative opinions on them, but I found it very comfortable to type in. I'm even more excited about it now, can't wait to give my T61 some rest.

Also, can't believe I finally started a /tpg/ thread, this day can't stop getting awesomer!

>>55982485
1080p T420? How?

>>55982549
by using a monitor

>>55982549
He mentioned an eGPU, so maybe he has a screen connected.

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How the fuck do i screenshot on my hp Elitebook 8440p?
Also headphone and microphone jack dont work after i replaced the motherboard.
And when i ran Rkill it said:
>Checking Windows Service Integrity:

> * TBS [Missing Service]

>>55982958
you press function and whatever key says print screen
and did you install the audio drivers?

Do Thinkpads like the T430, T530 and such use 2,5 hard drives/ssds?

Going to receive my i5 x220 tomorrow. I hope I wont be posting in "memes you fell for" threads soon after. I'm pretty hyped about being able to receive my shitty 2in1 celeron windows tablet with a capable mobile linux machine that I can actually use for development after work.

I have a FHD E540 with i7 and 12gb ram for work, so I will probably notice a difference, but it will be leagues better than the shitty windows hybrid I have now

>>55983068
7mm drives.
I think the T430s supports mSATA but not the non s, dunno about the T530.

>>55982494
I'm this guy, and I've been thinking. Do you think an ssd will fix this issue of very long boot times, or is there some other problem perhaps? Only thing I can think of is that the CPU is throttling due to heat, but I plan on repasting anyway.

>>55983313
Thanks man. Dumb question but I want to be sure.

>>55983068
...yes
pretty much every laptop that uses a hard drive (except for some older ultra portables) will use a 2.5" drive if it has a hard drive.
>>55983114
honestly as long as you have a decent hard drive or an ssd you probably won't notice much of a difference unless you do some really 3d intensive stuff

>>55983384
>honestly as long as you have a decent hard drive or an ssd you probably won't notice much of a difference unless you do some really 3d intensive stuff

Sounds almost too good to be true. This will be great. I won't be needing 3d at all, just enough horsepower to drive an IDE and some servers, something my current "sofa laptop" is really struggling with.

I'm hyped about the keyboard and unsure if I can cope with the 1366* display.

>>55983384
>unless you do some really 3d intensive stuff
I always wonder why no one here every mentions compiling. Compiling is very cpu intensive and there must be programmers on /g/ right?

>>55983705
unless you have a REALLY bad computer, or you are programming so fucking huge application compiling shouldn't take longer than a few seconds.
and cpu performance is probably the least noticeable difference between the x220 and the e450 (assuming that it's also a dualcore + ht)
sandy bridge to broadwell is about a 20% difference at best.
so going from 5 seconds to compile to 6 seconds won't really be that noticeable unless you directly compare them.
also at that point hard drive will be your bottle neck, even if it's an ssd

>>55983766
>unless you have a REALLY bad computer, or you are programming so fucking huge application compiling shouldn't take longer than a few seconds.
lel you've never tried android development then. A clean build of Clover takes about 60s on my i7 4790. It was way worse before, like 2-3 minutes on an older cpu.
Or just shit like compiling ffmpeg or other big programs takes up a lot of time too, and a faster cpu definitely helps.

Ordered this for a student use, did I do well ?
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B004YJLV9M/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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2 questions, the TPFanControl wiki mentions the "disengaged" mode as possibly dangerous, I find it's the only way to keep my memepad under 85 even when gaming, obviously it's preferrable to replace a fan than a computer but wondering how much truth there is to that statement.

The other is, is it normal for there to be such a difference in temps from one core to the other? I figure being in such a tight space the temp would be the same accross the entire die, or maybe I reapplied thermal paste wrong.

Any cooling tips you can think of? Like putting the computer on coins like stands.

>>55983905
you did ok, not great but ok. some small upgrades like more ram and a ssd are always there to make it better

>>55983967
Did you pay 269€ + shipping as well or is that the next best price left?

>>55983967
not like I was going for the highest, I only need a small laptop that can survive scholarship, I'll have a desktop for everything else.

>>55984017
the price was 250 when I bought it.

i got mine used, for about 170 from a refurb store

>>55983838
Not that anon, but isn't that a little too much? Why do you figure the compile times are so long? I can't imagine Clover being too big. I've never developed for android, only x86 really

>>55984453
Android uses gradle, and it's just really fucking slow. They're working on it so it's getting better. Before instant run and incremental compiling you had to basically recompile the whole project each run. Clover is not a special with the compile times.

What's a business model laptop that's 1 or 2 steps better than the HP Elitebook 8470p?

I'm looking to spend around ~$350 on eBay. Would highly appreciate an answer.

>>55984048


Nice

>>55984671
(pls respond)

>>55984671
well the HP is a 14" ivy bridge, so an equivalent ThinkPad would be the T430. All *30 would be from the same generation as well.

If you want something newer and better than look at *40, *50, *60.

How do you get a recovery disk if you don't have a recovery partition? I can't seem to find a link for a download. I've been thinking of reinstalling windows, if only because it takes several minutes to boot. But will an ssd make a reinstall unnecessary?

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>>55984757

Thinkpad p70 is arriving in 5 days!!!

$2,000

i7-6700q

M3000M

1tb NVMe SSD (Extra $800)

Did I do alright?

(pls clap)

I just bought a T430 off eBay for $150. Is there anything I should check when it arrives to make sure it's in good working order?

I was planning on cracking it open, putting a new HD in, and replacing the thermal paste.

>>55984816
>17"
Why not just carry a desktop around

Is this good for 175 USD (I'm from Europe)?
>T420
>HD+ 1600x900
>i5-2520M
>4GB RAM
>320GB HDD
>DVD Drive
>a/b/g/n WiFi
>New battery

>>55984853

You should check your white privilege

>>55984858

If I wasn't forced to buy a 16:9 screen, I would love to buy a 14" laptop.

If laptops let you use them in portrait mode, I would jump on buying a small one. I just can't use a tiny screen.

Also, 17" is just mobile enough to carry to school everyday in a laptop case. The screen real estate is worth it.

How the fuck can you use excel on a 12" 16:9 laptop?

What do you think? I will use this for work and college. Programing, writing, research and a bit more. No gaming, no 3D.

My purchase:
Refurbished Thinkpad T420 i5 2,5Ghz 4Gb 320Gb 1600x900

Upgrade:
Samsung SSD 850 PRO 254Gb
+4Gb
Toshiba H200 1Tb
Battery 9 cel 7800mAh
qobobo USB 3.0 Express Card

OS: Debian

My first thinkpad and not sure what to expect. Should I do something else? something different?

>>55984859
Looks good, but you're going to pay customs.

>>55984883
Checked

>>55985011
Very nice. SSD is most important upgrade. Battery too. Probably can get away with 4gb ram.

Also, what's debian?

You sound like you can type without looking at the keyboard.

How did you learn how to do that? How do I get faster? I keep mixing up keys, and have to really slow with numbers.

>>55985030
I'm buying Local

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>>55985055
<-- use one of these

What kind of improvement will an ssd entail?

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I got this refurbished X220 with a new 9 cell battery, new keyboard and a warranty for ~420€.
Did I fuck up?

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>>55985055

>>55985339
nah. Debian X220 masterrace based af senpai

> have $150
> T420
> spinnning disk and shit battery

should i get a ssd or a new battery?

>>55984816
they should start issuing "/g/ has validated my purchase" certificates

All in all though the P70 is a respectable workstation for its pricepoint minus the typical Gookovo complaints

>>55985506
ssd will save on battery

>>55985506
depends on if you use the battery a lot or not.
if you use it a lot I'd say battery, otherwise get an SSD.

Few questions about the x200
>Any good cases that'll protect it that aren't also bags? I don't want it to get scratched in my bag but I don't want to carry a laptop bag seperately.
>Is the ultra dock (or whatever it's called) even worth it?
>Where can I get a good cheap 9 cell that isn't exploding chinashit? Any chance of there being other batteries that make it last longer than the 9 cell?

>>55985812
amazon basics laptop sleeve
dock is worth it if you have a desk with a monitor. get it used on ebay.
oem batteries are oem batteries. there is no super sekret place to get them drastically cheaper.
slice batteries.

Can the 1366* screen in a e540 be upgraded to the fhd version? They are both available for this model, but perhaps I'm too naive?

>>55985889
Don't get an E version, you'll regret it.
Upgrading the screen should be possible, as it is possible with any other Thinkpad as well.

>>55985223

Spin drives on laptops are notorious for crashing. They aren't meant to be portable.

1) SSD will not crash from being moved (like a laptop should be).

2) SSD is fast

3) less battery use than spinners

>>55985161

How would this help?

>>55985381

How do I learn how to type faster without looking at the keyboard?

I'm really slow, and make a lot of mistakes, and can't type the numbers or symbols fast.

I can type faster by looking at the keyboard and using random fingers to tap the keys.

>>55985506

Get both. Even if ssd is small/weak, it'll save you trouble when your spinner crashes.

>>55985911

What's wrong with e and L versions?

>>55985932
theyre lower tier

>>55985932
consumer line with Thinkpad logo slapped on them
Gookovo style marketing

>>55985916
practice. Lots of practice.
http://typing-speed-test.aoeu.eu/

>>55985911
I already have one, it has served me well for 2 years with an i7, SSD and 16gb ram. I got the full HD version, of course. The TN panel is the only thing that really annoys me, but I haven't built up the courage to buy an IPS panel from laptopscreen and replace it.

A friend of mine is willing to sell his e545 with a 1366* screen and that might be a cheap replacement for her dying old acer piece of shit, but I can't let her use that display with a straight face.

So maybe I could swap the displays as I upgrade mine.

>>55985916
>How do I learn how to type faster without looking at the keyboard?
don't bother
you will get good eventually

just keep proper finger placement in mind and force yourself to stick to it

What's the best distro to run on a T430? I've been thinking of dual booting on the one I ordered.
I've got a fair amount of experience in the Linux command line (I administrate a few Ubuntu servers), but I've never really dealt with desktop Linux.
Any suggestions?

>>55986001
*her being my girlfriend that I completely failed to mention beforehand. Her notebook is falling apart and I'm looking for a decent but dirt cheap alternative

>>55986022
Dualboot as in Windows 10 + GNU/Linux?
Better be careful then, Windows 10 anniversary update just nuked non Windows partitions of some people.

Also I recommend Debian + Gnome.

>>55986022
Also, what effect would full disk encryption with something like LUKS have on battery life?

>>55986099
The laptop I ordered off eBay (allegedly) has a Windows 7 Ultimate key. If it's legit, I'll probably go Win7 + GNU/Linux
The only thing I really need Windows for is Photoshop and a few other programs for Uni

>>55985949
>>55985962

Yeah, but what are they really missing?

They have the great thinkpad keyboard.

What more do you need?

Also, what do you guys do to prevent people from stealing or getting into your laptops?

Do any of you guys use the fingerprint readers for security?

>>55982549
google the model number of the display you imbecile

>>55986101
I wouldn't worry about it.

>>55986151
No but I use a 13 character password.

>>55986151
>>They have the great thinkpad keyboard.
chiclet shit
>>What more do you need?
something that doesn't resemble a walmart laptop, has proper port selection, decent screen
>fingerprint
>security
it's fine in certain configurations in multifactor authentications. otherwise it's a joke

>>55986151
>Do any of you guys use the fingerprint readers for security?
no. biometerics is bullshit. can you change your fingerprint, ever? no.

>>55986151
>they cost less but are just as good.

suit yourself.

>>55984816
>noko sage
You're an idiot if you thought this was necessary.

>>55986101
Insignificant if any.
>>55986022
Elementary without paying.

What ssds do you guys have in your thinkpads?
So many options can't seem to decide.

>>55986349
you can get SATA II drives a bit cheaper if you have an old model that doesn't support SATA III.

>>55986368
Yeah I know but I'm asking for my t430

In the ktgee guide, it says that $170 is a good price for t420.

Which specs does that ideally refer to?

I've found one at that price with
I5
4gb ram
320gb hdd
Win7pro
1600x900

Getting the 9 cell 44++ for my x220 what your guy's experience with the battery life ?

>>55986473
a ssd increases it

>>55986473
I'm having a 9 cell battery on my X220.
Battery life is depending on screen luminosity around 8 hours.

I'm trying to figure out if I should spend a few hundred bucks on a newer Thinkpad, or a little bit of money upgrading my current one. It's an older T61, C2D T7300, 3GB DDR, Quadro NVS 140M (which surprisingly has not burnt down the house yet)

It's fine for 99% of what I use it for, only qualm is I can't watch a 1080p movie on my external monitor while typing up a paper for school. I was thinking of getting an SSD, replacing the trackpad, and taking the thing apart to clean out the fans and replace the thermal paste.

You guys think I should go that route or spend $300-400 on a newer thinkpad? I honestly can't decide.

Just went from a MacBook to a Thinkpad. I'm loving it so far but i can't seem to turn backlight off like on a Mac. When i max the brightness slider it's just very dim.

Am I doing something wrong?

>>55986687
That's a software problem not the thinkpad

>>55986687
different computers have different brightness you dingus

>>55986319

Troll'd

>>55986756
I know, but I thought that I maybe missed a driver or something.

>>55986776
So there is no way to turn the backlight full off? Kinda annoying when giving a presentation in a dark room.

>>55986801

Google bro

Usually it's Fn + spacebar

>>55986801
>So there is no way to turn the backlight full off? Kinda annoying when giving a presentation in a dark room.

Yes you can set brightness you imbecile. Fn Home/End

>>55986816
Doesn't work.

>>55986841
Yes and that does work. It just doesn't kill the backlight entirely like i want it to do.

Why the fuck do you guys use Linux and Gentoo and Debian and other shit that's not windows or mac?

What's the benefit?

How do I learn how to type numbers and symbols fast without looking!!!

Teach me how to be a cool /g/uy!

>>55986906

Fn-F7

>>55986925
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.html

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>>55986948

FN Five-Seven?

>>55986925
>Why the fuck do you guys use Linux and Gentoo and Debian and other shit that's not windows or mac?

I use Debian on my X220 ecause Windows just sucks for programming (which is something I do with it) an for being used w/o a keyboad
>
>What's the benefit?

Having an OS that doesn't suck or takes away control from the user
>
>How do I learn how to type numbers and symbols fast without looking!!!

practice
>
>Teach me how to be a cool /g/uy!

install gentoo

>>55987014
mouse*

>>55986988

I thought the Gentoo guy was Steve Wozniak not Rick Stallman.

Does he understand how the economy works? Who would pay programmers if it was all free?

Any good modules for the bay of a T400? It doesn't accept SSDs and I don't need any legacy ports.

>>55986925
Windows is only something you soul use if you plan on gaming.
OSX on the other hand is something you should never use except if you want to feel important and gay.
GNU/Linux is for everything else.

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>>55986925
It does what I need it to do and feels more open on this 768 resolution. Also >muh freedumbs

>>55986948
Nope.

Google doesn't help either.

>>55987068

Screwdriver and Break it!!!

>>55987068
are you talking about the thinklight?

Is getting a T420 (upgrading cpu/hdd/ram) a good idea if I want to do art work?
I heard the screen was shit on the T5** is that also the case on the T420?
Is the resolution, quality and colors any good?

>>55987138
>do art work?
what does this even mean?

>>55987138
The screen on the T420 is a piece of shit.
The one on the T520 is according to reviews slightly better actually.

What thinkpad for Kali Linux?

>>55987084
Just the laptop display backlight. I'm on a X250 if that is of any importance.

>>55987213
what os

>>55987161
Manga Studio, PT Sai and the occasional vector manipulation. What does it sound like, anon?
>>55987176
So I might as well go for an XPS 15.. Shame, I really like how repairable and durable the Thinkpads are.

xps is garbage. sorry i don't know any of those programs, but why the fuck you want a 15" screen in the age of cheapo mega screens

>>55987233
Well you could go for one of the newer Thinkpads which come with IPS panels.
It's just the older ones like the T420 that have pretty bad displays, at least for professional use.

>>55987227
Windows 10 & Debian.

>>55987282
does it work in windows?

>>55987300
Nope, on none of them.

>>55983008
I just downloaded the driver and it worked. Do I need to download the rest of them?

>>55987191
Doesn't matter. Kali should be inside a VM with a spoofed mac address

>>55987270
True. But I'm just a student as well.
Would be preferable to have a decent spec'd laptop.

>>55987341
But then a lot of the tools won't really work.

>>55987315
so what port are you using, hdmi/vga/displayport?

Do modern thinkpads (xx50 and xx60) still have the magnesium rollcage inside?

When I ordered my t430 I repasted myself, and fell in love with the design and the way everything is laid out to be serviced with ease.
I am not planning on buying a new laptop or anything, I just want to know if Lenovo still makes usable machines or not.

>>55987373
It's connect to a projector using VGA.

>>55987478
so are you getting mirroring?

>>55982958

1. easy, fn-insert
2. try downloading the audio drivers

sauce: am using an 8440p myself

>>55987497
Yes.

I know I can turn the screen off entirely to only show the projector but i still need it to be active on the laptop as well so I can view my notes with one press of the brightness button.

This is standard on a Mac when you turn brightness all the way down.

>>55987599
so you want to be able to turn the screen on and off with persistent mirroring?

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About to pull the gun on a refurbished T400 on ebay for 150$ straight with 4 gb of ram and 120gb of storage.

About to join the club. I'm I being meme'd on?

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>>55987681
Yeah. We keep this thread alive specifically to lure people into buying off-loaded name brand laptops from auction websites. You caught us. Everyone go home now.

>>55987681
>I'm I being meme'd on?
For 150? Probably, T420s and T430s are only slightly more, go for one of those instead.

>>55987650
It's just the backlight of my laptop which I want to turn off and on.

Shouldn't be that hard, right? Ancient Macbooks could do this.

>>55987681
Yeah, you could get a T420 or T430 for nearly the same price, just 10 to 30 dollars more.

I bought a t430 with an ssd and 8gb of ram for $200 even.

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How good is the T420 1600x900 panel? I currently have a T520 with 1920x1080 panel, not the one from Lenovo but pretty good still, I think it was from an Elitebook, after calibrating pretty good colors and viewing angles. Asking cause I have an x100e that is pretty much worthless save for the cute factor and nice screen res, it's incredibly slow and hot though.

>>55987756
Uh I owned a ibook in 2001 and it definitely could not do this. I've never owned a laptop that could display without backlight. Are you talking about like a ebook display? Never heard of this.

>>55987806
The backlight turns off entirely when you bottom out the brightness.

>>55987822
post a picture

>>55987845
read
>>55986687
>Just went from a MacBook to a Thinkpad

I don't have it anymore.

>>55987790
>T420 1600x900 panel
its good if you're ricing, but with GNOME it's just okay. but all that touchscreen and UHD+ comes at a price with battery (and it is more expensive).

>>55987868
i really don't understand what the fuck you're talking about.

What Thinkpad has the best Linux support?

>>55987938
sticky

>>55987938
anything a year old or older

>>55987938
Pretty much any X series. No dedicated GPU, no Ultrabay, nothing that won't just werk.

>>55987938
Use W10 goy.

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>>55987771
>>55987737
How about the T410s?

Is a refurbished X240, with IPS, i5 and 4gb ram worth $400?

Ordered a thinkpad on saturday morning, it's already monday evening and the seller hasn't responded to any of my questions or shipped the item. I'm getting kinda irked cuz i want the item asap. What the fuck should I do?

>>55987876
Didn't know they came with touchscreen, huh.

Thoughts on this if i buy a separate battery and already have an ssd?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Core-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-No-HDD-OS-BATT-w-Power-Supply-/311672147765?hash=item48911b8f35:g:NxgAAOSwtnpXl6kd

>>55988190
>what should I do
Wait
You should've waited for him to answer your questions before you purchased it though.

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Thanks to the anon who mentioned balancing his w520 on a bowl to run cooler, decided to put my t520 on coins as stands and it does run cooler indeed.

>>55988222
not bad

What's the best suggested buy for a budget of <=800 that has an SSD?

>>55988595
x200 with SSD purchased aftermarket

>>55988595
t450

>>55988595
Don't buy one with an SSD. If you're buying new, Lelnovo (or any manufacturer) overprices out the ass for SSDs, so it's better to go with the cheapest storage option and add an SSD yourself. For used, there's no way to know what sort of abuse the previous owner put that SSD through, so it's a gamble, although I've bought three used Thinkpads with SSDs so far and they've all been fine.

>>55988670

What's a good base model with in my price range (750 max since I'll have to buy the ssd and install myself)

>>55988699
What do you intend to use it for? Do you prefer powerful specs or long battery life? Big or small? Any special features you want in particular? Are you afraid to get your hands dirty? Your price range gives you a lot more flexibility than the usual sub-$200 NEETs that check in here.

>>55986681
Get a decent SSD and the rest of it costs nothing. If it works, great. If it doesn't, move your SSD over to the new machine.

>>55988670
You forget that the majority of /tpg/ are literal babbies that can't install their own OS.

>>55988190
heh
ordered on on sunday
ebay says it should arrive by monday next week
they created the shipping label today
it's 90 miles away
ill have it the day after it gets picked up by based usps

>>55988788
At most, I'm going to be using it across campus for notes. I think I'd like to do some gaming too even though I've got a great desktop because I don't want to bringing my desktop to LAN parties and shit. Stuff is heavy. Decent battery life is a must because my Tuesday and Thursday is 12 hours of class (4 2-hour classes with 2 1-hour breaks in-between). Size of laptop isn't really a problem, though I'd prefer big.

>>55988818
Nah don't worry, I got it, no worries on the installing on my own. Can't be too different from a desktop.

>>55988860
> 10 hours of class*

>>55988210
yeah lenovo and dell are miles ahead of apple

>>55988860
You want consider two batteries if you need 10 hours.
And x220 and two batteries is still cheaper than /college laptop/ variants.

>>55983367
All good, I have dumb questions too, like how Ps/2 keyboards didn't work when I plugged em into a computer that was turned on already.

>>55986027
8470p? E6420? Both are incredibly cheap against their competitors.

>>55987868
I forget what buttons Windows have for presentation mode, it's FN and whatever Function key that has a monitor in it, cycle it 4 times, one should be projector mode (it shows monitor off, projector on)

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I just bought a T410 with 8GB and 320GB storage.

How fucked am I?

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>>55982459
how can I tell if this charger is legit?
>>55976406
to answer that question no it's not
a windows install is ~3.5 gigs. but drivers and all the other stuff normally brings that size up to 4 or 5 gigs.

What laptop cooling pads are worth it. Price isn't really important enough to go dirty cheap. One good enough to keep it decently cool while under heavy stress (rendering or gaming)

>>55989216
just don't do either of those things, put new paste on cpu, and blow out heatsink with compressed air

>>55989253
Kinda need to be able to play on the go sometimes. Id prefer if it wasn't dead hot

>>55989216
you're better off going to your local mc dicks and getting 16 ketchup cup thingys and proping your computer off the table
the main way cooling pads help is by propping the computer up more, the fan is absolutely useless

What is the best /g/-approved HP Elitebook?

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>>55988788
>the usual sub-$200 NEETs that check in here.
Pic unrelated

My X201 Tablet arrived. Great condition; two broken pieces of plastic but otherwise cosmetically very good.

Got an SSD now and a legit charger. Going to get a caddy for the SSD to leave the rattlin' SSD club.

It shipped with an 8 cell battery and 4 GB of RAM. I'm thinking of getting a 4-cell battery for general university use. 8 cell when I need it, but for just class and office hours I don't anticipate marathon sessions. I have a non-terrible gaming PC that I do most work on. I'm going to upgrade the RAM to 8 GB because it's like $30.

Basically solely for following along in programming class, and asking programming questions in office hours. Harder to do that without a PC, though I have definitely tried. (Shudder)

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>>55988034

>>55989510
sure
just make sure to get more ram, an ssd if it doesn't have one, and a x250 trackpad

>>55989520
ty kindly. Is it something worth jumping on iyo?

>>55989612
yeah I would

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Hey, /thinkpad/. I have this keyboard.

>>55989646
With this output, and bought this adapter, and can't get it to work with my 420s running win10. Advice?

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>>55989667
Forgot pic.

>>55989672
isn't that color code of the adapter mean it's for mice and not keyboards?

I've had the same issue of having a non working PS2 keyboard on newer machines (while it worked fine on older computers)

Not sure about the technicality of the problem. I suppose it has to do with firmware support that becomes obsoleted for certain models after a certain time

>>55989718
But is my skin white enough for /g/?

>>55989729
DESIGNATED KEYBOARD ADAPTERS

>>55988034
Sounds a bit high to me since it has cucked TrackPoint and you need to upgrade the memory and possibly the HDD.

>>55986687
>>55987213
>>55987282
X.org should let you turn screen backlight off with

xset dpms force off

.

>>55989924
yeah but he wants to "see" whats on the screen without it actually being backlit, which is obviously retarded

>>55986457
What i mean is, should i get this?

>>55990562
yeah looks good to me

>>55987336
only whatever drivers device manager says ur missing

How's the ThinkPad 13? Thinking about buying a budget thinkpad, originally wanted X260, but its fucking two times as expensive...

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Would this work with a more modern thinkpad?
Moreover, would it work with an SSD?

>>55991216
Ah the good old T40esla

>>55989672
Just spend $10 on an active adapter from monoprice off their ebay store or something. Works nice for my RT3200.

Just go X1 Xarbon 3rd Gen 2560x1440 touch for 1000 dollars, fucking best thing so far

>>55991771
Post battery life

>>55990903
>Thinkpad
>budget
just get a used older model
DO NOT buy a budget thinkpad, it will be just as bad if not worse than some of the consumer grade stuff.

>>55990903
get one of these T420 https://www-304.ibm.com/shop/americas/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/default/CategoryDisplay?categoryId=2576396&storeId=1083996948&catalogId=-840&langId=-1

>tfw i want a W530 to replace my T420
>tfw its not worth it because i can get a ThinkStation D30 for only a few hundred more and i never leave the house anyways
>tfw i already own 3 thinkpads and never use 2 of them
>mfw im going to definitely buy more for some weird reason i can not fully grasp.

>>55991997
The diagnosis is collectionism. It's time to stop.
My prescription: two TPs at most, one for nostalgia (an IBM model if you have one), and one for getting the things done (whether it be for comfy or for work). Sell or give away what remains.

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>>55982459
Why does my w520s gpu do this when I'm playing a game?
I don't remember it happening before, but I re pasted my cpu and gpu and now I see this.
cpu runs about 10c cooler though.
I tried making sure the gpu area was tightened down all the way, and my max temps are lower than they where before (96 now, 98 or 99 before)

>>55989214
Bump
I really need to know if this charger is good or if I should return it before it blows up my precious w520
Maybe it's causing this?
>>55992078

Is there any way to get a discount on new ThinkPads in Europe? I'm looking to get a p50 but the base model sets me back €2300 ($2550).

>>55993011
The EU Lenovo outlets rarely have anything decent in stock.
If you are a student you can get a small discount through Lenovo's education program, but it's not a lot.
You could wait for christmas as a lot of hardware stores give nice discounts during that time.
But other than that I think you're out of luck. Maybe check ebay since 3rd party vendors often auction new Hardware there that got returned with the packaging broken. I got a new i5-4420 for 60€ less through that. (180€ instead of ~240€)

>>55993221
Thanks for the tip anon.
The thing is, hardware stores here do have good sales around christmas, but the laptops they sell are shit-tier.
I'll look around online for any 3rd party vendors that ship to my country.

Is it a good idea to buy this from newegg?http://www.ebay.com/itm/ThinkPad-T420-14-0-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50-GHz-320-GB-HDD-4-GB-Memory-/381327064981?hash=item58c8dd3f95:g:mqsAAOSwMmBVomyd
Just want something that works starting Programming classes at college!

>>55993693
Looks very good.
I got a X220 for the same reason, but only because all the 900p T420s were sold out.
You'll maybe need to get a new battery if the one it comes with is super worn out. If you do so get the 9 cell original Lenovo. It may be pricey but at least it won't explode on you and have a battery life of 8+hours under normal load.

>>55991997
>implying anything can replace a dankpad

>>55993822
>implying W520/W530 isn't a straight upgrade in every way

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What cheap, yet high CPU performance (even if the other specs are shit, except for RAM) ThinkPad would you recommend?

>>55993984
Quadcore T520

>>55993984
W520 with a Quad Core.

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>>55993852
>what is ppi

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I might have lost my T420 charger. Unless it's in the one spot that I think it could be at, maybe, I'm gonna need a new one... How do I buy something that won't explode on me?

I feel so stupid.

>>55994336
Kensington universal charger.

Does arrow direct reallyw sell on newegg?

>>55994336
$13 on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/90W-Genuine-OEM-Lenovo-Laptop-Charger-Power-Cord-Adapter-ThinkPad-T420-T500-T510-/311649321253?

>>55994421
Didn't wanna run right to eBay but I guess a refurb is probably my best bet if I want the real deal on a budget. Thanks anon.

>>55990903
I'm about to get the X260.
I'm not even sure it's worth it.

>tfw bought T530 for 350bucks. Happy with the price at first but now I need an ssd, new thermalpaste, new battery and I need to figure out what the hell the owner did with the recovery partition.
>It's getting more and more expensive.
At least it came with adobe master collection cs6 and ms office.

are there any essential thinkpad-related linux packages that I should install?

I just booted up arch with KDE for the first time

(and god damn the keyboard is amazing)

>>55995027
duh, forgot to mention it's a x220

>>55995027
I didn't need to install any special packages.
Everything just worked out of the box.
X220 with Debian testing/Gnome btw

>>55995027
tlp

http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/docs/tlp-linux-advanced-power-management.html

>>55983114
For the record, the X220 supports up to 16GB of RAM.

>>55984975
With skill and patience.

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>>55982459
Who here is comfy while posting in /tpg/??

>>55995192
>macbook air
>/tpg/

do you know where you are? or what /tpg/ means?

>>55995192
Why does your Thinkpad look like a MacBook anon?

>>55995192
Interesting case mod anon

>>55995113
I was happy to see all function keys working without issue. I kinda expected exotic things like the ThinkLight to give me some trouble

>>55995155
Thanks! I'm gonna try that

>>55995156
I don't think I will need to max out the RAM. 16gb is pretty crazy on a device like this.

>>55995260
My MacBook Air is actually just as powerful and as robust as a Thinkpad, just elegant with its aluminum chassis.

Also I don't need to install Linux because I already have Mac OSX and that is Unix based which is just a different dist. of the Linux kernal.

So I have all the power and usability of a ThinkPad, while maintaining the elegance of a truly masterful work of art

>>55995296
where is your red-thinkpad-nipple thought?

>>55989214
Looks legit to me.

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>>55995324
>>55995192
I retrofitted mine on

>>55995294
Sure, but 2x8GB is only about $10 more than 2x4GB kits.

>>55995370
saved, praise holy kek

>>55995296
But I think that Thinkpads look beautiful as well anon. You're missing out.

>>55995370
That's not the place IBM engineers meant it to be.

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>>55995370
Double check the placement of that clit senpai.

>>55995444
Thinpai had changed over the summer.

>>55995296
Yes, MacIntosh makes the most elegant space heaters I've ever seen.

Is everything sold on jewegg legit?

>>55995868
No. IIRC they let some chink vendors sell reflashed graphics cards (to make them look as thought they are a newer generation) on there. Newegg doesnt give a shit.

>>55995893
But if I see a certain vendor on there, can I trust I'm actually getting it from said vendor? I don't want to buy from a random chink pretending to be arrow direct or something like that

Currently running Linux Mint 18 on a Thinkpad T410. I find it a lot buggy than the previous version of Linux Mint. Is this because Ubuntu 16.04 has bugs and Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't?

I've got a WiFi bug where sometimes it doesn't work on startup or after suspend mode.

Also audio issue (where the audio is a little bit more lower than Windows, very strange) and video issue when I watch H264 movie or typing on terminal.

It's very annoying because I'm actually using my Windows 10 partition lawlessy, everything is just werking without any problem, but I don't wanna use Windows as primary OS on my DankPad.

What should I do? trying another Ubuntu Distro like Ubuntu Mate and see if it werks??

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should I start worrying?

>>55996190
I'm getting the wifi issue on my dankpad running xubuntu 16.04. If you are switching, switch to something 15.10 based. I didnt have any issues then and im probably going to rollback myself.

>>55991216
frankenpad

>>55996220
That is like 7,5 Hours at full charge, right?

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Is Ubuntu 16.04 and other distros realted more buggy than older ones?
I'm currently using Linux Mint 18 and I experience a lot of bug like:
> Sometimes Wifi doesn't work after start up or suspend mode, I have to reboot my computer
> When I open the terminal I've got a graphic bug and watching H264 movie
> audio is much much lower (even on on 100%) than Windows 10 partition


What about you?

>>55996241
Thank you anon, can I also rollback on 14.04?

>>55996376
what you described is generally happening in about every distro ever so

>>55996397
I mean rollback as in fresh install m8.

>>55996376
15.04 was the last good release cause it didn't ship with systemd

>>55996408
Tell me more about it, why it is so bad?

>>55996270
I can get up to 10hrs if I reduce luminosity.

>>55995192
If I had to buy a nonThinkPad, I'd go Air

>>55996861
honestly for style point I'd rather go Dell XPS than Apple.

>>55996878
I had one a while back and it looks a hundred times better, only problem is Dell Trackpads are cancer

>>55996947
I don't know that I only know them from images and I think they look good.

>>55996630
because it 'just werks' and you miss the experience of fucking around with init scripts for hours along with editing shitty configs to 'rice' out your install

>>55996376
>using Mint
Please read this:
https://lwn.net/Articles/676664/

and never ever install that joke of a distro ever again

>>55996861
>opting for the Mac with the worst display

Looks like someone caved in to getting cucked by poor displays.

>>55997053
If the old 15" Pro had the same battery I'd agree, but 13" Air is a good compromise if you get an old $400/500 model

>>55984853
Make sure the bios doesn't have an admin password

Is it possible to find white, black or green trackpoint caps?

Does anyone here have any experience with Kingston/other brand msata ssds, if so what do you think of it?

>>55997248
i use a kingdian one because $30 + free worldwide shipping for 120gb

>>55997306
Neato, do you like it? I got the Kingston ms200 120gb version coming in the mail, looking forward to a faster boot.

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I'm waiting for my T420, this showed up on the tracking thing on ebay. What does it even mean? Should I be worried?

>>55997411
I don't know. Does it say which station, maybe try calling it?

>>55997446
That print is all it says, it began being shipped yesterday

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So I think I'm about to fall for the X220 meme.

I have a few questions:
How hot do they tend to run, specifically at the keyboard and on the bottom side?
If I were to buy one of these from Craigslist then what things should I check while I have it in my hands before I buy it?
If buying from eBay what should I check for? Any reputable sellers in particular?

>>55997366
I got the 120gb M280, it works well however i only use it to store steam games since it's limited to sata2 in the T420, for main OS disk i have an 850 evo and a hdd in the ultrabay caddy

Hello /tpg/. I was wondering what some reputable websites are where I can buy a used thinkpad. I would like to avoid buying a computer off of a shady guy on ebay or craigslist.

>>55997460
Ah. From what I can see it looks like there's some software issue considering the two entries are from the same time, and the question mark and all caps. I'd suggest waiting a day or two to see if you get another message. Or contact the seller maybe he/she/attackheloself have had customers with similar issues.

>>55997473
That is a stupidly cute little computer. I wish physical keyboards on tiny devices were still a thing, I've never liked touchscreen keyboards.

>>55997495
I see. Sounds good. I plan on using it as a boot disk, while keeping the old hdd for bulk storage. Eventually I plan to upgrade the hdd to an ssd as well but it's a little out of my budget at the moment.

>>55997522
There is this German vendor where I bought mine.
The website is in English and they offer English keyboard layouts so I think they'll ship to wherever you live.
https://www.lapstore.de/

>>55997525
Alright, I'll wait it out and see if something new pops up, thanks.

>>55997473
>How hot do they tend to run, specifically at the keyboard and on the bottom side?
I'm fine with having it sitting on my balls, so not too hot.
>If I were to buy one of these from Craigslist then what things should I check while I have it in my hands before I buy it?
See: http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide

>>55997522
Your autism prevents you from checkihng seller's rating?

>>55997525
Another message just popped up, "In transit-ORIGIN SCAN", does it mean anything useful?

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>>55982459
just checking in to post with my new 1080p monitor in my T420s.
After having to send back one screen this one finally works

>>55997819
That's really cool, where did you get a kit to upgrade?

>>55997828
from the guy on the thinkpads forums. I think he's out of stock currently

>>55997796
I've no idea. The in transit part sounded promising, but the other entries were called that too. I'm not sure what origin scan. Maybe someone fucked up with the scanner, and now origin stands for original and they fixed it. I've no idea. Would calling UPS help, although they probably deal with too many packages to respond to concerns over a single parcel.

>>55997836
Oh, so you got it before then. How much did it cost you altogether?

>>55997851
I googled it for a bit and got
Origin Scan: This scan is the initial electronic record indicating UPS has possession of the shipment.
So it'll hopefully be alright.

>>55997855
$59 for the kit plus $88 for the screen. Then I'm not counting money I've lost some money because I bought a screen that had in the description (Or comparable screen) that didn't fit.
And yes I've had the kit for a while now but only recently got the correct screen in the mail.

Looking into getting an X220 after my T420 bit the dust. Quality wise, would I be better off buying refurb from newegg or hitting up ebay?

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My X61 tablet is coming this week, got all this for £35. Dubs decides which distro I put on it.

>>55997933
Whatever you do, make sure you get an IPS model

>>55997921
That's actually pretty cheap considering, how does the screen feel? I've got a T420s waiting to arrive, I think I'll be satisfied with the 1600x900 one though

>>55997941
Compile Gentoo with CDE on it.

>>55997941
Gentoo, friend

>>55997988
First try winner, damn

>>55997968
Screen feels like the original screen. Absolutely love the viewing angles. The biggest problem for me with the original display wasn't the resolution but the fact that it wasn't IPS. If you can get your hands on a 1600x900 IPS screen that'd improve it a lot too

>>55997988
Can I use Arch with CDE instead?

>>55998076
Ok, just show us CDE working on it, right?

>>55998076
Only if you wish to thwart the will of the gods. Dubs have spoken.

should i get a t410 or t420

or are there any latitudes with similar specs in the same price range

>>55990873
thanks

What would say is the worst Thinkpad?

>>55998534
second generation X1 Carbon for the keyboard alone.

My T430 just arrived and it's perfect, I'm so happy! Now I just need to wait for the ultrabay caddy in order to have a nice dual booting machine. I'm in love with this thing.

>>55998604
I feel the same about my T530, the thing just oozes durability and ruggedness.

>>55998534
T440

>>55998534
X440

>>55998534
W540

>>55997473
>Dat pic
It's a adorable, I want it in my life

>>55989143
Fucked, unless that's 320gb of SSD, because you're gonna get rid of it all.

>>55998681
>>55998816
>>55998864
What makes the xx40 so bad?

>>55999088
bad keyboard layout from the xx30 series
fuck huge trackpad with no keyboard nipple buttons
and since it's not a macbook the trackpad was also terrible.

>>55999088
Mouse buttons integrated into touchpad, very big touchpad you always accidentally touch while writing, chiclet keyboard with inferior layout.
In short, they sacrificed usability for looks.

>>55984816
Paid right under $1200 for my W700ds when I first got it in 2013, and that machine was made in 2009!

Enjoy your TitanPad

>>55998534
SL400

>>55995296
My problem with Mac OSX is that it doesn't like my Linux USBs, WIndows deals with them just enough.

Is an SSD really that good? At 90 USD, thats more than half of what i paid for my t420 itself (150). How much storage do i need? Should I just get a 850 Evo and be done with it?
Thanks

>>55999360
For me my 250GB SSD is enough.
if you exclusively use your T420 for everything you'll prolly need more.

What OS(s) should I run on an X201 tablet?

I'm thinking Win10 + Ubuntu, because I don't know other distros with a touch focused UI and Unity at least sort of werks.

Win10 because it has better tablet & laptop modes than Win7. However, I can't get wifi working on 8.1. How likely is it to work on 10? Should I go to 7 to try and get more of the Lenovo supported programs? Wifi works on Linux.

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Looking to buy my first thinkpad, and am thinking about the X200.
I'm curious to see if anyone here has one, how is the size and weight? Its portabillity and battery life are what really attract me, as well as its super cheap used price I find on site slike ebay.

Althugh aybe something in the T series would tret me better, but is the battery life in T series TP's any noticably worse?

There's a T430 on my local craigslist for 175, should I pick it up?

>>56000328
If it's not the memeresolution panel.

>>56000370
Which memeresolution are you referring to? it's 1600x900.

>>56000407
I meant don't get it if it's 1366x768.

Buy it.

>>56000449
Alright, Thank you.