Zen officially pushed back to 2017

Oh come on

What a surprise, another AMD failure.

What will be their excuse this time?

>>55980090
Intel delaying kaby lake.

>>55979988
Zen officially confirmed vaporware.

>>55979988
>Raven Ridge
>14nm SoC

Whoa wait, what's that?

>>55980361
APU.

>>55979988
To nobody's surprise.
I pity AMD, they are poorer than Nvidia and tiny compared to Intel yet they try and compete on both fronts.

>>55979988
lmfao when one month after zen intel releases their 10nm architecture

>>55980458
>they try and compete on both fronts.

Their biggest of all mistakes.
Still believes they should sell the Radeon division to a bigger company that can handle the competition.

>>55980483
But radeon is still somewhat competitive

>>55980464
10nm is going to be delayed, guaranteed. They had a hard enough time getting down to 14nm.

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>>55980498
>But radeon is still somewhat competitive

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

>>55980498
Their discrete GPU business is only losing them money, check their balance sheets.

>>55980498
Console APUs are probably the only thing keeping them alive at this point

>>55980610
Congratulations on having efficient cards that can only do gaymen and nothing else. AMD is still very much competing.

I really want Zen to be competitive but I am really starting to get worried it will be to little to late.

>>55980787
>Congratulations on having efficient cards that can only do gaymen and nothing else.

NVIDIA has 100% share in every other GPU market.

> AMD is still very much competing.

they have less than 20% share in the gaming market and are struggling to match NVIDIA perf/watt and performance from 2-3 years ago. AMD is a token competitor at best and aren't actually viable options.

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I wanted to do a fresh new build this year.
>mfw it's not happening

>>55980787
Enjoy opencl compiler bugs preventing complex kernels to run on amd.

Man, I fucking hate anime.

>>55980806
>to little to late.

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>>55980950

>>55980976
Weeb get out

>>55979988
Awesome, more stuff to wait on for waitfags

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AMD IS DEAD AND FINISHED

>>55981083
see >>55980976

>>55980498
Ahahahaha.

>>55980787
You know nvidia sells P100 with 16GB HBM2 right? They literally own the gpgpu market. AMD makes half-assed shit for buttcoin miners.

>>55981109
Is not even more stuff, is just the same stuff but we've to wait longer.

I'm afraid zen should have been released back on 2014-2015 to be somewhat competitive.

>>55980603
not delayed because they can't, but because they dont have any reason

without competition, they can go for as long as they want with old technology charging premium bucks for it.

sad reality, indeed

>>55980823
>NVIDIA has 100% share in every other GPU market.
AMD has 100% share in mining crypto currencies.

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>tfw 4.4 ghz 2500k
>not a single fuck was given

I might pick up a cheap 2600k or 3770k but otherwise I can't be arsed

>>55980976
Look at me
I'm the 4channer now

Fuck off to /a/.

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>>55979988
God damn it amd I need that fucking CPU

>>55979988
AMD, more like AM PEE amiriteguise

>>55981300
Just get an Intel CPU, all these AMD ones are garbage

>>55981332
No

AMD is literally heading for divestment

>>55979988
>AMD in charge of being competent.

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By 2017 AMD will be filing for bankruptcy. Pajeet knows this and wants to sell radeon to the highest bidder.

>>55979988
>want to build a pc to replace my 2670qm based laptop with a shitty 630m as my main machine
>plan to build a 5820k based machine last year and couldn't get an opportunity to build it because of other reasons
>could do it this year
>decide to wait for zen
>whatcouldgopossiblywrong.tiff
>this shit happens

What now?

>>55981482
You picked the worst time. Intel is probably going to change sockets again and Broadwell-E is shit.

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Daiz most likely killed AMD.

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>>55979988
>people have been waiting for Zen since 2013

>>55980976
>console cooperation

You have to go back.

>>55981516
I really have no idea. I could build something 5820k based as it performs nearly same as the 6800k but skylake-e is troubling my mind. Well it shouldn't be an issue considering skylake is nearly indifferent from haswell in performance.

>>55981536
I've been waiting since 2012, no real reason to upgrade a 3570k to another quad core. I'd much rather have more cores on the next system. The 5820k was really tempting, but I decided to wait for the new GPUs as well. So far, it has been disappointing.

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>>55981536
AMDfags have been telling me to wait for the next BIG AMD thing since zambezi.

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>>55981565
You know what? I say fuck AMD. Get the cheapest of those two and be happy.
I was planning to buy AMD too, but last week my mobo died and o had to buy a b75m to replace it. I'll just put a 3770 this winter and stay like this for another 5 years.
God dammit, I really want to AMD to succeed, but it seems that they simply can't.

>>55979988
The lack of information about AM4 is what puts me off the most.

Oh boy, Zen in 2018.
Earlier than I expected.

>>55979988
AMD: Always More Delays

>>55980498
You can't have competitive cards if you don't sell them.

AIB 480 are still out of stock AFTER TWO MONTHS. Most people recalled their orders and bought an nvidia.

470 is a failure, because it's only $20 cheaper than the 480, so why buy the inferior product? Also rare as a unicorn.

460 is DOA, because it has performance at the level of R9 370 for MORE money.

490 is DOA, because the release date is unknown and everyone who wanted a high-end card already got an nvidia.

Radeon is finished too.
2017 will be the year AMD goes bankrupt. It will happen, I've seen it happen. Cyrix looked exactly like AMD now before it died.

>>55981761
AMD: Another Major Disappointment

AMD is dead. Press F to pay respects.

>>55981762
>2017 will be the year AMD goes bankrupt. It will happen, I've seen it happen. Cyrix looked exactly like AMD now before it died.

I think it might take a few more years, but they are well on their way. RIP AMD, press F to pay respects.

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>>55981762
Yeah, you might be right. AMD won't live enough to see another summer.

What the hell are we going to do now?

>>55981792
>>55981813
F

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>>55980976

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>>55981873

>>55981536
been waiting for some sort of upgrade from sandy bridge, whether it be zen or intel actually bother to make a better cpu

>>55981648
Probably going to do that. I could bear waiting until september or october but this is just way too much. I have been on a 2670qm and a 630m for nearly 4 years and it's painful.

>>55981859
AMD is not going anywhere for a long time, and this regardless of how their x86 products perform

>>55981563
You misunderstand, there's no cooperation anywhere unless you report all the time. You were never welcome in the first place.

>>55982099
I really hope (if there's still any of it inside of me) that you're right.

>>55981936
>shit girl
>shit show
>shit taste
kill yourself

>>55982303
I'm glad that we had a discussion about something truly belongs into the technology section of an image board.

There are AMDfags who died waiting for the next upgrade
just think about that...

>>55982420
F

>>55979988
HahahahaahhahahaahhaahahHh
Fucking told you LOSERS so.

You fucking delusional Amdrones told me I was wrong.

>>55982138
you don't have to hope. you only need to understand basic economical concepts. even VIA is still in business.

the worst case scenario for AMD is either getting purchased (ie by Samsung, Qualcomm, etc) or divesting its x86 branch. and that would be long after their console SoC contracts run out.

then it would still have the ARM and Radeon business, both of which are definitely viable.

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>>55982420

>Zen delayed again
>Probably gonna be Another Massive Disappointment anyway

>1070/1080 competitor nonexistent
>rx480 is just a shittier gtx 970 after 2 FUCKING YEARS

>b-b-but WAIT! JUST WAIT!!!! AMD WILL BE GOOD AGIAN!!

AMD - the "It's fucking nothing!" company.

But it was always realistically releasing in 2017

>>55982502
amdrones are even more delusional than Applefags. Most obnoxious bunch out there.

>>55982503
They will manage Q4 2017 at best.
I'm thinking they will delay it even more until 2018 considering AMD's incompetence.

>>55982502
>>55982519
the 480 is shitting on the market right now, and nvidia has NO response whatsoever but another overpriced piece of shit that's only good at DX11

deal with it losers

>>55982475
>Radeon business
>viable

They are losing money every quarter on their GPUs.

The rumor is they will sell their GPU business to Intel.

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>>55982551
Nvidia literally came out with a GPU that beat the 480 in every way just a month later. Pic related.

>>55982551
>480 is so good they sold out immediately forcing AMDrones to jump to NVIDIA to actually get a GPU at all
kek

>>55982551
Nvidias response is better than AMDs offering in everything. You know what else? If Nvidia wanted it could sent your sorry ass AmdShit spiralling downwards just simply by price cut. You guys never had and never will have a chance in this gen.

>>55981762

480 is out of stock due to miners. That's not bad for AMD's bottom line, although it blows for everyone who thought they'd get an affordable gpu.

>>55982565
revenue being lower than expenses is rarely a good thing but it's also rarely something to panick about

q2 2016 seems to be reversing that trend though, but I don't want this to derail into my optimistic speculation vs your pessimistic speculation

>>55982579
you've cherry picked the game, API and website. amazing how far you shills will go.

I'm buying a GPU for the next 3 years, not the previous 3. call me when nvidia's products stops getting blasted at async workloads by cards that cost 15% less.

>>55982584
both manufacturers have had issues supplying the market, nvidia much more so

it's undeniable that AMD is selling more GPUs right now. deal with it.

>>55982820
>you guys
what are you implying? that you're part of nvidia? the 1060 is an underwhelming piece of shit and as a disgruntled 970 owner it's probably the least attractive GPU I've ever seen. stop parading that embarrassment around

>>55982940
here's your (You)

>>55982901
>miners
>That's not bad for AMD's bottom line
Pick one.
A few guys buy dozens of GPUs, run them 24/7 OC, then RMA when they die after a month, rinse and repeat.

While the actual AMD market share sunk another 5% this year.

It is if fact horrible for AMD and it is one of the reasons they will die next year.

>>55982940
AMD has lost billions of dollars over the last years. They are in deep shit and need a miracle to get out.

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>another year with a C2Q-Xeon

>>55983037
why does /g/ consistently fail to understand basic economical concepts

let me spell it out for you; if a company with $2bn in assets makes as much revenue in as much time as a company worth $10bn then it can not be considered to be performing worse

this means focusing on net worth alone, which is the only figure that might lead you to conclude that AMD has "lost billions", is pointless. especially if you're comparing their current situation to their pre-ATI buyout, pre-globalfoundries situation.

that doesn't mean AMD is doing well right now. but you really have no basis by which to judge its performance or commercial viability if you don't understand these basic concepts.

in addition to this, the last quarter (Q2 2016) is the first in a long time where AMD has actually shown growth, so it doesn't seem like you're aware of what's going on at all.

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>amdfags

>>55979988

Alright goodbey 8350 hello 6700k!

>>55983151
Uhh that's literally their income over the last years. Negative billions. They are totally screwed.

>>55980976

Whatever nerd, go jerk off to drawings somewhere else

>>55983175
>j-j-just keep waiting

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>>55983175
Funny how I considered waiting 1 year ago for Zen before buying a 6700k

Boy am I gland I didn't

>>55982940
>both manufacturers have had issues supplying the market, nvidia much more so
>it's undeniable that AMD is selling more GPUs right now. deal with it.

nvidia isn't having yield problems like AMD, they're just selling an extreme amount of GPUs. based on steam survey alone the 1070 has outsold the 480 and 470 3x.

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rip intel

>>55983246
>the 1070 has outsold the 480 and 470 3x

That's funny considering the 1070 is almost twice as much.

Nvidia is raking in the money, while AMD is dying.

>>55983151

>fail to understand basic economical concepts

http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/amd/revenue-eps

Amd bankruptcy can't come soon enough. Tired of these delusional Amdrones

>>55981193
why nvidia can't into making good bitcoin cards?

they were supposed to own the gpu industry

>>55983254
DELETE THIS

>>55979988
There's nothing "official" about this picture. It's leaked, which means that some autistic faggot pulled it out of his ass.

I'm hoping Vega will be good so the 1070-80 will have competition. P-please deliver AMD.

>>55983396
holy shit

>>55982502
>rx480 is just a shittier gtx 970 after 2 FUCKING YEARS
No. Cheaper, faster, better at DX12, and of course, more VRAM.

Quit shitposting.

>>55982579
12% faster IN DX11 GAMES, 25% more expensive.

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>>55983435
Hint: it won't

>>55983396
I just pulled my dick outta ur mum ass.

>>55983483
1060 is faster in DX11 and DX12. It's also only $10 more. Literally no reason to get a 480 when the 1060 exists.

>>55983483
1060 is cheaper than 480 in Europe

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>>55983487

>>>55979988
>OP states complete bullshit
>every tech illiterate retard on this board believes it without question

Absolutely amazing. Summit Ridge has never been delayed. End of the year limited availability, with full volume in 2017. This has always been the time frame. Its still right on track.
How many times can the management say the exact same thing before people get it?

What miracle can save AMD?

>>55983553
Divine intervention?

>>55983553
Semi-custom SOCs will save them. PS4/PS4 Neo, XB1/Scorpio, they all helps them stay afloat.

>>55983654
They should just drop their desktop business and focus on the consoles because that's what actually makes them money.

>>55983544
>Summit Ridge has never been delayed. End of the year limited availability, with full volume in 2017.

Except the launch was officially pushed back to 2017. Q4 2016 paper launch isn't happening now.

>>55983730
No, tech illiterate retard, that didn't happen.
Thats something that OP, and other forum retards pulled entirely out of their asses. People with industry and retail contacts like Fottomberg explicitly state that nothing is delayed. Su herself said at Computex that Zen based parts are on track, and AMD has made no other statement on the matter since then.

Saying that anything was "officially pushed back" is just a lie.

>>55979988
it's not new. THey already said few weeks ago that both intel and amd were delaying their new CPU

>>55983773

>anything that disagrees with my pro-AMD narrative is a lie

You're delusional. Zen A0 chips can't even clock past 3.5ghz and have faulty USB 3.1 controllers. This is the reason for the delay as it requires base layer changes and a full respin before they can sell these chips without destroying public image.

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>>55980247
They didn't. Kabylake is currently shipping to board partners.

>>55980090
There were rumors about the integrated south/northbridge having problems and or being a challenge for board partners to build for.

>>55983802
>tech illiterate retard grasping at straws

>muh faulty controllers!
There is no faulty USB 3.1 controller, you WCCFtech regurgitating spastic. USB3.1 is incredibly sensitive to signal interference so a separate signal booster is used to address it. Intel uses the exact same chips. That isn't a design fault of their off die chipset. Retard.

>b-b-b-but muh clocks!
Summit Ridge is an 8 core 95w part competing against 140w parts from intel. If you expected it to be a speed demon then you're even more retarded than I already think you are.

The company has not made any official statement, therefore nothing can be officially delayed. Its really that simple. Just throwing words together and pretending that they're true is lying. Now why would a little tech illiterate faggot babby like you go around lying on the internet?
Oh thats right. You're a butthurt fanboy shill.

fuck you all, commie 64 for life.

Why anybody even owns an AMD product is beyond me. For the last 6-7 years they were always the "We are 2 years behind Nvidia" company but now even that's arguable as 480RX is beaten by heavily OCed 970 gtx in majority of dx11 games (While 970 costs $50 less in EU and is the 2 years older card). I honestly think AMD should stick to either making CPUs or GPUs.

>>55983871

nothing says 'i'm right and you're wrong' like being reduced to ad hominem and accusing others of being a shill.

>USB3.1 is incredibly sensitive to signal interference so a separate signal booster is used to address it.

signal isn't the problem, the controller itself is defective.

>Intel uses the exact same chips.

and they managed to fix it with kaby lake, because the controller was defective and had to be replaced with one that actually functions properly.

>Summit Ridge is an 8 core 95w part competing against 140w parts from intel. If you expected it to be a speed demon then you're even more retarded than I already think you are.

then AMD won't be competing at all and should have aborted Zen in the womb.

>>55983820
So basically Intel is putting the consumer last? What else is new.

>>55983820
So basically Intel is putting the consumer last? What else is new.

>>55983949
Misusing the term ad hominem when you're just being insulted is something only autists do.

>>55983956
>>55983968
Just wew lad.

>>55983974

and you had no rebuttal. You'll have to work harder for your 2 cents in the future, Pajeet.

>>55984002
You're just lying through your teeth, arguing like the tech illiterate retard you are.
Matter of factly Summit Ridge has not been delayed. Saying it has been "officially" delayed is a complete fabrication.

Don't have command over a single fact
Just lie and shitpost
Whine about ad hominems while demonstrating you don't actually know what they are
Throw out meme when confronted by your own stupidity
Typical behavior of a desperate butthurt fanboy shill

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Was hoping it'd get released sooner in order to push Intel to get the next chips out.

Same for Nvidia, they're sitting on the next gen cards but waiting until AMD releases to push it out and squash them.

Come on, I want my 10 series Ti you fuckers and a substantially improved Skylake chip to boot.

>>55983988
Look man I tried my best, cut me some slack

>>55984045
Nothing AMD could do would ever push intel's hand. Intel will release Skylake-E only when they're good and ready for it.

>>55984040
>Matter of factly Summit Ridge has not been delayed. Saying it has been "officially" delayed is a complete fabrication.

it was originally slated for a Q4 launch and now it's pushed back to an undefined point in 2017. could very well mean that zen won't be available until Q2 '17 at this point.

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>>55979988
Fucking lel!

>>55984045
This
Nvidia's job is to BTFO AMD fags, its the natural order of things. They did it with the 980ti killing the Fury, and the 1060 killing the RX480.

If AMD doesn't push out their Indian curry diarrhea then Nvidia has nothing to respond to.

>>55979988
anyone else here who doesn't care about cpu/gpus at all but just loves to see how mad amdrones get

>no source
>/g/ believes it

AMD sucks dick, everyone has waited for there CPUs but they keep letting people down.
Sad to say but AMD is done for, we have been saying it for ages but now I am certain that they will perish.

>>55984112

Although I will never buy an AMD (I bought two cards, never again one failed and the other is on the way out, plus they never recognized crossfire either) I still depend on them to keep Nvidia competitive.

Otherwise it's a slow year of development and release, not to mention they won't need 'competitive' pricing (kek)

>>55980824
kaby lake

>>55984216
>sacrifice power for energy efficiency

>>55981762
>2 months
480 release date: June 29
Current day: August 8
Nice counting

as long as it has good floating point performance i don't really care how long it takes

holding down enter on calc.exe is getting really boring, but i can't do anything funner on my 8150 because it has sub c2d fpu speed.

>>55983892
This. Anybody who even thinks about buying AMD is a complete moron.

>>55983840

https://www.techpowerup.com/223583/amd-zen-processor-integrated-chipset-has-usb-3-1-issues-could-escalate-costs

Reminded me of this.

Dicks out for Harambe.

>>55981239
GPU mining was dead years ago, it's all ASICs now and even they're starting to struggle

>>55984087
Except you don't have anything proving so, OP could mean that volume availability be in 2017, which is the case

>>55983702
Desktop business is the least important market for AMD, but they want to regain the server market and attack the HPC market, but desktops are a derivative of both

>>55979988
how can it be "pushed back"
if no date was ever confirmed in the first place

>>55984819
Shills jump at any opportunity possible to shit on AMD, even if its entirely fabricated.

>RX 480 IS FRYING THOUSANDS OF BOARD HURRR HOUSEFIRES DISASTER EVERYTHING IS FINISHED
Thats the level of posting tolerated here

inte/nvidia is just the best setup, highest cpu performance and lowest cpu overhead.

intel/amd is okay, higher cpu overhead is helped along by intel cpu's being very fast.

amd/nvidia is also just okay for the inverse reason though i'd prefer the former

amd/amd is the worst of both worlds. no-one should ever rely on single threaded graphics drivers when they have no single threaded performance to begin with.

>>55985008
Why would intel/nvidia have low cpu overhead but intel/amd has higher?

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>>55985337
I honestly believe that shills of every kind are mentally challenged.
No matter what flag they are waving, they're always retarded as shit.

>>55983381
They don't want to stain their reputation with shitcoin

>>55984819
This right here. In fact, it was always understood that the desktop sku's would be 2017 anyway.

>>55984622
Reminds me of the same thing for skylake

Rx 480 will kill nvidia!!!!!
It failed

Zen will kill intel!!!!!!
It will fail


Why amd autist so retarded?

>>55985593
AMD fans are poor 3rd world morons, of course they are retarded.

>>55985394
i upgraded from a 960 to a 390 even though i was already cpu bound on most titles purely because it was a great deal i intended to upgrade my cpu soon anyway and had the psu to support it.

lost a minimum of 5 and sometimes close to 15 fps on everything.

it was an AMD cpu.

Now why would that be? Obviously the 390 is a tier above the 960, if you stuck them with a 4790k the difference would be staggering.

Oh right, CPU overhead. damn. something LinusJayzTwoSyndicateTips never fucking accounts for because they'll even compare a 1060 vs an rx 480 on a 4.6ghz 6700k and pretend that reflects actual performance in the kinds of pc's people who would be buying those kinds of cards would have.

>>55984848
The 480 did kill a lot of motherboards though

>>55985593
literally children who can't afford anything else

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>>55979988
That's good news.

I was worried because this year it just isn't possible yet.

>>55981762
>So much bullshit in one single post

>
480 is constantly out of stock BECAUSE they are selling like mad
>
The 4GB reference 480 practically does not exist, so the $180 (msrp) 470 should be compared against the $240 480
>
460 isn't really meant for the market segment /g/ typically occupies, so your point is nonsense
>
490 = Vega = Not Polaris = We know absolutely nothing about it, your point is nonsense

>Cryix looked like AMD before it died
The only thing worth any merit you said in this post, and even then it's a half-truth.

>have to compete with Intel and NVIDIA, both of which have enough cash to release a new product at a moments notice to ensure market dominance
>Intel's anti-competive tactics during the P4 era have severely damaged them (you did buy the Althon XP and/or Athlon 64 didn't you?)
>R&D budget gets smaller and smaller
>Zen will only at best match Intels current offerings
>if it betters Intel it won't be for long
>can no longer compete in the high end consumer and instead concentrate on the affordable mid to low end market
>they won't sell Radeon Group off because GPU and console sales are the only thing keeping the lights on
>unless they can pull a product out of thin air that Intel/NVIDIA can't respond quickly to (will never happen) AND somehow overcome the brand bias many have AND still be cheaper then they cannot win

It will be a slow death. You could have stopped it and not bought that P4 pre-built with the "xtreme graphics" FX5200 but you didn't.

>>55985593
Nvidia has twice the R&D budget of AMD and AMD has to split it between cpu and gpu departments. Intel just dwarfs them.

>>55985686
Now would be the time to post your proofs

>>55982503
yeah but they were supposed to have working examples showcase at least

>>55985686
no it didn't

>>55979988
AMD fulfills the AMDrone mantra of "wait, wait, and wait some more."

>>55985718
>>55985740

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qwzpy/three_motherboards_and_counting_have_died_from/

>>55985950
>reddit
you have to go back nvidiot

as someone with an 2600k, i really want something new but i dont actually need it

>>55985960
https://community.amd.com/thread/202410

>>55983702
But they can't because otherwise Intel and Nvida will be virtually guaranteed monopolies.

>>55981413
>>55981792
>>55981859
It will survive. If it goes bankrupt, the US gov will bail out AMD to avoid monopolies.

>>55985995
still a great chip, wont be worth replacing til intel's 6 core coffee lake in 2018.

the quad core mainstream meme should have ended at ivy bridge at the latest.

blame intel's greed and amd's irrelevance for it lasting this long.

>>55986023
>But they can't because otherwise Intel and Nvida will be virtually guaranteed monopolies.

They sell their GPU business to Intel, problem solved.

>>55986037
Why does >90% of the total market need more than an i5? Most people will never do anything more intense than render a video in a stolen application or maybe use their stolen photoshop. True quad cores are fine. i7's and E5 Xeons are for power users, enthusiast, and businesses. The only reason I have a 4790k and not a 4690k is because when I bought it, it was $240 brand new. (That's about the price 4690k's were on newegg at that time nearly 2 years ago). Thus far there has only been one scenario where the extra 4 cores from hyper threading have made a substantial difference.

If you want a cheap (i5 price) octocore from Intel then buy the $250 Xeons. If you're a gaymer you don't need that iGPU anyway.

>>55986332
>the products intel pushing getting more and more market segmented and stagnant for the consumers is fine because...

it might be 'fine' but it's still cynical and unfortunate.

>>55986332
>If you want a cheap (i5 price) octocore from Intel then buy the $250 Xeons.
>$250 Xeon

citation needed there senpai. And yes i am counting whatever the motherboard costs over the normal mainstream counterpart as a part of the cpu's price because you aren't getting anything useful out of it as a normal user. I'll be nice and leave out the added price of ECC memory though.

>>55986408
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117316

Basically a 4770 without the igpu

>>55986507
>quad core
way to move the goal posts

>>55985701
> BECAUSE they are selling like mad

They aren't selling. There is nothing to sell.
The whole UK received 30 cards. AMD can't deliver.

>The 4GB reference 480 practically does not exist,
It does exist. There is 4gb Sapphire, Gigabyte and MSI. Well, on paper, because they are never in stock.

>460 isn't really meant for the market segment /g/ typically occupies
Why buy 460 when 370 is literally $110 right now?


> We know absolutely nothing about it, your point is nonsense
Maybe we should? Because the high-end card competition is occurring right now and AMD already lost, because they don't have one. And won't have one in August and in November - "back to school" and black Friday sales are decisive. So there is onoly nvidia to buy. AMD won't exist by the time they decide to release it.


You are one retarded amdrone. I will laugh soon, when your shitty company goes bankrupt.

>>55986559
Oh 8 core. I wasn't the guy you were talking to, sorry

It's a little older (Sandy Bridge) but 8 cores 3ghz turbo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3R86737

>>55986559
Intel hyper threaded cores act near identical to real cores to the point where in real world tests it's a marginal difference.

Most people generally use cores to refer to total threads, I guess you're just one of the ones that actually uses proper terminology. Regardless, as linked, that sandy vag E5 Xeon is a true octocore and it will btfo anything currently offered by AMD.

Regardless, AMD octocores aren't really octocores. AM3(+) CPUs have that garbage core and a half bullshit.

>>55986618
old as dirt and needing an LGA 2011 mobo proves my point about these things.


>>55986684
you know that's not true. disable ht on an i7-5960x and it will still smoke an i7-4770 in appropriate workloads.

>>55986618
dat single core performance do

>>55986786
SMT's throughput uplift is around 30% in really heavy workloads, its often less than that.

Best to just ignore retards instead of indulging their nonsense.

>>55980691
There financials haven't been this good in years, fuck wit

i honestly dont know what zen is, if its intel or amd or nvidia or whoever but i just want to inb4 someone says ____ fags got blown out

>>55981193
>source: my ass

>>55986969
It's actually the codename for Qualcomm's new x86 line of snapdragon desktop variety chips

>>55980610
>hardware scheduler that uses a lot of power
>better than 970, same as Titan X
Come back when nvidia brings back the hardware scheduler due to DX12, it will be Fermi all over again. But oh, wait, they don't give a fuck about async, you faggots will still defend them and give them your shekels.

>4c4t
>36W
Can it be real?

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>>55986332
>i7's and E5 Xeons are for power users, enthusiast, and businesses.
>businesses
>Implying most businesses need more than a spreadsheet and email machine.
Maybe researchers, data analysts and designers need serious power but 99% of businesses need even less performance than consumers.

The AMD fags would always disagree with me wherever I said this would happen. Keep clutching to your illusion.

>>55981239
Only because they sell cards with the best performance per dollar.

>>55983032
> run them 24/7 OC, then RMA when they die after a month

That does not happen. Miners are not stupid enough to OC for 2% gains. The rest of the RMA's are idiots with no case fans.

>>55983381
They'd lose gaming market share if none of their cards could be bought for a year after release

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>>55983392

>>55980247
so instead of taking advantage of it and having no "next gen" competition they are arrogantly taking intel head on
wow nice job amd

>>55987875
>implying AMD will be alive at that point
Having enough chuckles, mate?

>>55987875
Seriously? A two year delay?
How fucked is AMD?

You know what. Ill be doubtful, Ill have faith. Ill try to invest in AMD. When 2017 comes around they will blow intel to kingdom come.

>>55981762
>Most people recalled their orders and bought an nvidia.
Doubt it fagtron. Prices are way higher and the stock isn't any better.

>>55983506
>It's also only $10 more
m8, can't believe (YOU) believe the MSRP lies

if you're europoo you don't matter

>>55988053
There was no delay, thats a shoop.
If you honestly think Zen was ever slated to come out in 2015 you're too fucking retarded to post here.

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>on track to achieve greater than 40% uplift from our previous generation
Zen beat AMD's own expectations. If clock rates are good Intel is completely shit wrecked.

>>55988271
No, this is vs Piledriver based Opterons.
It is only a 40% uplift over Excavator.

Stop talking out of your ass. This type of hype bullshit only hurts AMD in the long run. You're the same type of faggot who hyped the shit out of Bulldozer only for review day to be a total disaster because of it.

>>55988271
IF they ever release them, which it sounds like they won't any time soon

It's 2016 and is AMD doomed?
http://quarterlyearnings.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74093&p=quarterlyearnings
>be June 2016
>Net Revenue 1027m$
>Total Comprehensive income (loss) 72m$
>Cash+Cash Equivalents+Accounts payable net (money they have, or are owed): 1628m$
>Short Term Debt+Accounts payable -842m$
So that is ~$738m$ in the bank. Losing ~72m$ a quarter. ~2.5years of run way.

AMD has to find ~100m$ a quarter in the next 2 years to manage to stay alive.

Here's what I know.
>Fujitsu announced In November of 2015 (the deal was made in early October) a new line of processors that will allow for secure VM's.
>Zen advertises new AES ram encryption for hyper visors
>Fujitsu announces partnership with VMware for their secure cloud tools

>>55988333
They actually posted a GAAP profit for the first time since 2014 and that's without any Polaris revenue. Next quarter they expect to see another 18% revenue increase and non-GAAP profitability. It's pretty much certain they are going to beat those expectations because Polaris is selling like hotcakes.

AMD is confirmed not to go bankrupt in this decade. Hence why the stock price has quadrupled in one year.

>>55988270
I remember people talking about Zen back in 13' or 14'. I don't know, the years get muffled at this point.

>>55988653
In September of 2014 AMD first revealed they were working on two sister cores, one ARM and the other X86. At the time the X86 core wasn't even named, only K12 was official. It took quite a while for the Zen core arch name to be made public.

>>55986604
At the very least AMD is going to limp along until 2021, they dont technically owe debt payments until 2019.

>your company
I dont own it, work for it, own stock, and I dont get paid to have my opinions.
You're the one who comes off as a shill with your awful quality trolling and misinformation.

>>55982579
>1060 12% faster
>9% cheaper than 480

Feels good man.

>>55979988
Desktop Zen has always been scheduled for 2017. Limited availability for Zen this year is only OEM partners for server.

>>55988694
Weren't there "leaks", no?

This is sad. Now there will be only one company selling cpus and one selling GPUs. This is worse than America's dual political party system.

>>55986332
the point is that we'll have $100 (arbitrary low price) 4 cores instead of intel picking whatever they want for a price

>>55983254
Can someone mod that image so it says 140% more waiting per product or something like that?

Cause according to that zen is 2015-2016 while zen+ is 2016+

>>55989192
Being 2 years behind the deadline is normal for AMD.
I say Zen come by the next Christmas. If AMD still exists by then.

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>>55988985
expect more $1200 GPUs, and CPUs

>>55983050
I want to cum on that face.

>>55988985
It's practically been that way for awhile now.
Nvidia has almost 90% marketshare, Intel has something like 70% and the other 29% is shit that isn't x86.

>>55990740
Except for the PS4 and XBO that is.

>>55988333
>2.5years of run way

Yep that's about how long I give them.

Maybe 3 years.

RIP AMD

>>55979988
Should I wait until next year or just buy a FX 8350?

>>55982075
Off topic, if you use windows, do you get frequent bsod's because of nvidia drivers? I can't play literally anything on that card anymore with the new drivers. Damn nvidia gimping

Waiting to do a new build with Zen.

Still running my 1100T and 6990(s). Will probably upgrade to a 480 when the 8pin models come out.

Current build has aged pretty well, as it's now over 5 years old.

>>55979988
>official
nice source

>>55979988
delete this.

>>55980976
fuck off weeb

Intel Nvidia monopoly is bad for prices.

>>55991298
It's been intel monopoly for 5 years now.

>>55980976
fuck off to /a/utism

>>55979988
Great news for waitfags. This increased the longevity of WAIT FOR VEGA by another few months.

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>>55991394

>2 years late and aiming to match haswell

seriously it has to be a joke right?

amd are better off just buying old skylakes and writing amd on top of them with permanent marker.

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>>55981241
3770K master race reporting in

Windows 10 peasant reporting in as well

Overclocked to 4.2

>>55991610
>144hz
>760

Your only saving grace is using the LTSB

>>55991758
I only play CSGO, and mostly older games.

It's more than enough for what I use it for.

>>55981648
I'm the biggest amd fanboy to date... I have a 4770 and 960.... I just simply can't justify buying 5 year old architecture and gpu that take 200w.

>>55979988
I already gave up on Zen and ordered my next PC. Feels good.

Waitfags BTFO

>>55991828
I'm not an Amd fanboy, in fact if anything Im an Intel one and I miss the days when both Amd and Intel released interesting products. I bought athlon 64 on launch, because it was such cool tech back then.

Now Intel keeps releasing the same shit over and over while Amd doesn't exist.

>>55991828
delet

This is the amd PRO roadmap. Stupid intel jews

>>55980976
Weeaboo gtfo

Anime was never alright and was always hated

We've been here longer than you, kawaii cuck

>>55987964
It gives them a chance to launch a new revision, which might improve perf/watt or fix bugs.
It's a good move, Intel delaying Kaby was what AMD needed so they don't rush Zen

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Did no one post this?

Actual laptop APUs capable of playing fucking games!

>>55993103
But who cares?

If you want to play games, buy a laptop with a discrete GPU (Optimus for example). You get best of both worlds.

If you want to just do office work, buy Intel GPU.

Why would anyone use an APU is beyond me.
> sub-par CPU performance
> sub-par GPU performance

by the way that picture made me wonder.
> 35W

Are you guys fucking sure that this thing will even compete with any desktop CPU?
It sounds like some low-power server CPU or I don't know... it smells fishy.

>>55993147
It's mobile part, of course it's up to 35W, were you dropped on your head as a child?
Intel CPUs go from 4-160W on the same architecture.

>discrete GPU
You serious, even the best power saving nukes battery life, make a shitload of heat and requires a lot of additional weight.

>>55993103
There have been laptops capable of this for years now. You can get laptops with maxwell 980 or even pascal 1070 now.

Also what's up with amds naming scheme? It sounds fucking horrible. Maxwell, pascal, skylake etc sound beautiful but shit like "stoney ridge" sounds stupid. Amd can't do anything right jfc.

>>55993186
>You can get laptops with maxwell 980 or even pascal 1070 now.
And around 6 kilos + half an hour of battery life.

Right.

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>>55979988
>no quad-core Summit Ridge

JDIMSA

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I think the major reason for Intel having no competition is the interest of governments to have minimum vendors as possible, so they can implement their HW backdoors more easily

>>55993193
>>no quad-core Summit Ridge
Of course there is, what are you talking about?

>>55993192
You're speaking as if people who buy these laptops aren't willing to have these sacrifices. If you want as high a performance level as a gtx 1070 then you're obviously going to know it's not going to come without certain tradeoffs like weight and battery life. Please, act stupid elsewhere.

>>55993241
There's no point in a laptop that's not portable and without battery, that's retarded.
Only actual use for it is in the government sector or workstations.

>>55993237
According to OP's roadmap, Summit Ridge starts at 8c.

>>55993256
There's a market for everything nowadays. I have seen many of these gamer youtubers who go around to all these global events and carry gaming laptops with them. It will obviously be much more efficient to use a gaming laptop whilst away from home to make your gameplays than it is to carry a mini pc + monitor + speakers etc.

>>55993281
Summit ridge's top part is 8 cores, which is two 4 core modules.
You'll get 4 core and 6 core parts a bit later.

This is sad, the longer they wait the more out dated their outdated shit will be at launch.
Fucking hell AMD I used to be a fanboy for you while I was growing up.

>>55993340
Everyone was an amd/ati fanboy at one point especially when ati were on top. I had an x1950pro in my first ever pc and it was a great card. You eventually realise intel/nvidia are superior though.

> AMD stops making desktop cpus and gpus
> intel and nvidia jew all their products
> no one is playing games on pcs anymore
> only consoles
> amd dominates console chips
> intel and nvidia go bankrupt
> AMD wins again

>>55993498
Consoles didn't help nvidia with those 85 million ps3 sales or ibm with 100m wii and 85m xbox 360 sales. Also your argument is false anyway since its pretty much confirmed that the new wii is using an nvidia pascal mobile chip.

>>55979988
>officially
source?

>>55993545
>implying anyone will buy nintendo shit

>>55993378
Same. I had Athlon 64 and Radeons back in the day.

AMD is awful now, literally no reason to buy anything by them anymore.

>>55993545
Reminder that Nintendo NX is a handheld and can not compete with AMD powered consoles.

>>55981413
that's another example why multiculturalism doesn't work
>hire pajet and asian woman as ceo
>go on even bigger debt due not being able to ship cards to stores
>have low sales while people buy shitloads of nvidia cards
>go bankrupt after few years

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>>55984235
Isn't kaby lake going to be the one with the zany hexagon socket and huge performance boosts with the memory improvements?

I have been holding out for AMD this long. It's time this shit stops.

>>55994909
>Isn't kaby lake going to be the one with the zany hexagon socket and huge performance boosts with the memory improvements?

that's coming after kaby lake. kaby lake is just devil's canyon equivalent for skylake.

>>55979988
just kill me now

>>55979988
>PRO

>>55986194
Unless AMD also sells their CPU business to someone else, Intel will have a complete monopoly of the x86 CPU market.

AYYYYYYYYYYYMDEAD

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>>55994853
Seriously what the hell were they thinking

>>55997421
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwZUQP3oc6E
>amd users

>>55997442
kek

>>55997442
That would explain all the retarded posts they make here

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>>55991610
>Inferno Bridge
>Master Race

>>55979988
If Summit Ridge is an 8-core only product, will Intel be releasing Kaby Lake in >4 core desktop models?

I'm getting really tired of this 4c x 3.5 GHz = $250 for the last 5 years bullshit.
No, I don't want even more of your shitty HD/Iris/Whatever GPU subunits, just more x86_64 power, thanks.

>>55987044
this

>>55997695
>will Intel be releasing Kaby Lake in >4 core desktop models?
They are releasing 6 core models with Coffee Lake, another new 14 nm arch

Samsung are helping AMD with the production so that itself is an indicator they're not going bankrupt anytime soon. Why would Samsung drive up profits for a company and then buy it for a higher price?

>>55997761
Uhh they're only losing money with Samsung

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>>55997695
>>55997739
word on the street is that Kaby Lake is still 4 coars only.

Coffee Lake is a virtually unknown bump in maybe early 2018 while JewTel starts rolling out the 10 nm Cannon Lake in the mobile/low power segment first.

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the /v/ shills have gone from SONY IS GOING BANKRUPT to AMD IS GOING BANKRUPT.

maybe it's even the same guy that was constantly shitposting about the PS4 never coming out.

>>55987044
>Come back when nvidia brings back the hardware scheduler due to DX12

I can't wait to see the nuclear reactor housefire Volta is if Volta will be the return of Nvidia's infamous hardware scheduling

>>55979988
I give up on AMD, time to start looking for parts for a memelake build

>>55979988
I'm nervous as fuck about Zen being shitty, but I'm not getting another non-upgrade with Kaby Lake again.

I wish Intel would make a i7-5775C style chip with 6 cores (and less Iris Pro for all I care) and a large on-package eDRAM L4 and not try to charge me $600 for the privilege.

>>55997835
>knows what goes in /v/
go back and kill yourself there

Guess I'll just get a 8370 then if zen is being delayed.

>>55983527
Nobody gives a shit about your caliphate shithole Euro fag.

>>55998106
okay dad

>AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! AMD IS DEAD!!! THE ASIAN LADY AND THE CURRY MAN HAVE KILLED AMD!!!!1
>AMD has actually shown significant improvements in financials during Su's tennure
>Stock price has literally doubled since then
>Constant cash flow from both Microsoft and Sony as they're not only in their current consoles, but their next ones as they're designing semi-custom solutions for them (PS4 Neo GPU is literally a lower clocked RX 480)
>Current console gen is literally the best selling one in history
>Obviously going to be making money next year
>Was already well known that the 2016 Zen shipments would be minimal if they weren't pushed to 2017 altogether
Sorry to break this to you Nvidia and Intel shills, but AMD most certainly isn't going anywhere any time soon. Zen slipping into 2017 will not kill them as bulk shipments weren't going to begin until then anyway.

ok so autism aside
I have an fx8150 and want something better will the zen be am3+ or should I just buy intel since i will need a new mobo anyway

>>55998608
afaik Zen is going to be AM4, i might be wrong though

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>>55998769
welp intel it is

>>55998608
>WILL THIS BRAND NEW CPU WORK IN MY 5 YEAR OLD SOCKET?

Do you realize how much of a fucktard you are?

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>>55997670

>>55993186
>You can get laptops with maxwell 980
Yes, a "laptop" with a TDP (not power consumption, just TDP) approaching 200 watts. Sounds awesome. That's around what my fucking desktop draws.

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>>55998875
Anon

>>55979988
AMD really finished and bankrupt now. Zen will be as fast as Haswell (2013) in fucking 2017, while Intel will still be ahead by a lightyear.

It's over.

>>56000335
Worst of all is intel has no incentive to even try since Nehalem. If Zen is even remotely good and it won't be, they'll just dump some 6 core 350$ part and take the top.

>>55981239
Weak bait, mate. GPU mining has been dead for years.

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WHAT IS AMD EVEN DOING WITH MY MONEY

>>56000591
>GPU mining has been dead for years
AMD compute was worthy only of buttcoins. Real players buy teslas.

>>55980825

Hey look a string of words you think mean something!

>>55982901
>due to miners

Nobody that mines bitcoin uses a fucking GPU anymore. EVEN with a multi-GPU set up, it would take multiple years as the very least to even mine a single bitcoin, and the hardness doubles roughly every four years.

A $30 ASIC powered through USB from Amazon provides more mining power than 2-3 GPUs. Mining is a non-factor.

>>55985737

They are already showing them off. Hot Chips at the end of the month is the official announcement.