Simple question

Because it's actually shit and only used by neckbeards as desktop.
Everyone that isn't autistic uses it as server.

>>55978302
Linux is a clone of Unix
sadly MS couldn't just rip it off because patents and shit

>>55978302
Because they are basically being forced to just use it. They started offering it on their cloud platform. They now have a virtualization layer for Linux binaries on their desktop OS. Microsoft is contractually and strategically obligated to keep developing Windows even though it's a pile of shit.

>>55978327
It's fine for desktop usage.

>>55978302
>Why does a company spend $$$ on developing a product that it sells?
Not sure if good troll, or genuinely retarded.

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>>55978302
>TUX Racer
nah, play SuperTuxKart, so much better tbqh
but to answer your question, GNU is free software and MS can't make money from it and control it's users and they want to rule the market with their own stuff, that's why, in fact they hate GNU and the Linux kernel, as you can see in the late 1990's and early 2000's they saw it as a threat and paid OEMs and driver developers to avoid Linux driver development and OEMS would install Windows instead of GNU, this wastheir way of wiping out the growing threat to Windows

>>55978364
>It's fine for desktop usage.
Not him, but no it isn't, Windows or OSX are much better in that regard. Linux is great as server though

>>55978364
>It's fine for desktop usage.
Then why is desktop OS marketahare 2% despite the millions of distros out there?

>>55978375
It's absolutely fine. I've dual booted for the last 7ish years and in the last couple years it has become entirely viable. Hit me with some examples.

>>55978378
Are you seriously asking why Linux doesn't have the market share that a mega-corporation with OEM contracts and a hardware manufacturer have?

>>55978375
But it is, I use it just fine and my parents use it just fine for daily use, it can do everything Windows can do, so saying it's only for servers is vastly wrong, although it is incredible for servers as well. We never have even touched a terminal in all of our use, it's gotten more and more user friendly since then (90's and early 2000's)

>>55978402
>It's absolutely fine
nope

>>55978378
Most people don't even know it exists. It's not as though they advertise or shove down peoples throats like the "other OS's" do.

>>55978485
Your loss, scrub.

>>55978302
just wait for vulkan mate

>>55978485
Are you just going to keep repeating nope?

Give me something specific. I'm dying to know.

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>>55978372
>based milo
wew
wew and
bazinga

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>>55978485
>browsing /g/
>ostensibly being a technology enthusiast
>being too stupid to use a Linux desktop

>>55978512
Funny that no other software has that problem. If it's better than what else is out there, people hear about it. Yet Linux... crickets. Almost as though it's a hobbyist OS.

>>55978302
>why would a company continue selling its own product even though there's a better one

>>55978627
What's the point? The only real use a linux desktop has is for ricing. That's it. Outside of servers linux is a huge meme OS.

>>55978369
I'm absolutely blown away by the stupidity of OP

>>55978302
>instead of just using it?
Since 2003 they've been using linux.
http://www.crn.com/news/applications-os/18839747/microsoft-uses-linux-to-publish-its-own-web-site.htm
http://arstechnica.com/business/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft/
http://www.wired.com/2015/09/microsoft-using-linux-run-cloud//

And last year to present their new products they were using a mac book.

>>55978733
Go use linux mint or ubuntu for a while, you have nothing to lose.

Don't like it, fine don't use it.

>>55978966
to be fair MS doesn't manufacture laptops unlike apple

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>>55979061
kek
it doesn't sound like you need to use it either. ur just another pseudointellectual aspie

why

>>55979061

I lose

>muh gaymen for entertainment
>muh .NET platform for work
>muh windwos only programs I use for hobby

So yea, I surely have nothing to lose, apart from every single thing. Not everyone uses their pc just to program in C (lol) and shitpost on /g/ all day.

>>55978369
>>55978682
>>55978821
They sell support, hardware and services now.

Also, people from most countries in the world have always pirated Windows.

>>55979130
Dualboot or even better use it on another laptop/computer lying around. You only need 15-30 Gb to work with linux just fine.

>>55979101
> tried most distros
> settled with ubuntu on my laptop and debian stable on the desktop
> enjoying the stability and ease
> reports on windows 10 au freezing pcs
> laughs

>>55979295

But WHY, why would I want to do that if Windows already does everything I want. That's the question. And it's a question every Linux fails to answer, hence it's negligible market share.

>>55978302
Btw azure linux by microsoft

As an experiment, over the course of the next few days, I like you all to pay attention to the frequency, in which, Windows users use the term "LOL". Prepare to be both annoyed and astounded.

>>55978733
>The only real use a linux desktop has is for ricing
fuck off idiot
I use standard ubuntu with unity, just added a temperature and system load indicator in the system tray, no rice needed to be productive
I use gnu/linux because is the fastest, no-frills, no-spyware, no bullshit operating system out here
every developer tool is an apt install away, hardware just works without installing drivers, everything is logical and when you have an error you can actually solve it
developing in windows is a pain unless you are a c# monkey, and even for that is not so good, microsoft documentation is horse shit and they try to fuck you in the ass at every occasion

>>55979347
really makes u think what a tech enthusiast is these days. kys

>>55979351
pretty much thus /g/tards make it seem like everything other than Linux is trash or a meme yet they themselves are the memes. note I use Linux at work as a dev but don't on my pc and I'm completely fine with them both like this

>>55979351
Let us go back to the 1800s

> why would I need these automobiles
> my horse can get me wherever I want

>>55979416
>>ubuntu
>>no spyware

Amazon searches anyone?

>>55979488
It is disabled by default now. Also don't listen to that faggot RMS

>>55979475

Tha'ts retarded. It's more like

>I want comfort and speed so I drive a BMW M5
>Here, use this car instead, it's driving system is different, the pedals are on the roof and it won't play your cd/usb, but it's from a different company!
>W-H-Y

>>55979506
I know it is but thats like saying stalkers dont stalk you because of a restraining order or something. You should still feel violated you were stalked in the first place.

>don't listen to that faggot RMS

Canonical shills are getting a bit angsty huh?

>>55979488
>search form
>spyware
this is retarded
RMS is too much hyperbolic sometimes

Most CS people use OSX nowadays. Why use a poor Unix clone when you can have a real Unix.
Linux is for idealists and poor people.

>>55979555
I'm sure you are using one of the FSF approved distro, or you are just being hypocritical?
I think RMS deserve respect but I don't have to believe everything he says like it's a fucking cult
the anon you quoted is a moron tho

>>55979475

You missed the I'd like to interject for a moment part

Yes, horse can get me everywhere I want

No, linux can't play my games
No, linux doesn't have enterprise level software for .NET platform, and that's what I do for a living
No, the programs I use for my hobbies are not linux compatible
No, the browsers or linux aren't different from what I can get on windows for shitposting
No, the media players aren't any better on linux

So

>just stop doing what you like, change work, change hobbies, use the same software you can use on windows. It's great!

In short: you're retarded.

>>55979621
>>55979583
What the fuck does the canonical / amazon controversy have to do with RMS? I don't know why you're even trying to bring him into the equation.

I use arch on a laptop and debian on a server since you asked.

>>55979528
Windows is like a plastic butter knife and Linux is like steel kitchen knife.
With windows kids feel always safe to use and have fun with it playing to be chefs, doing things like cutting tomatoes or maybe onions, even if they do it in a slow or clumsy way, but meanwhile they feel happy and satisfied with themselves.
Then when they see you cooking with the steel knife they starts wondering how it feels, then they starts whining that they want to cook like you and want to use the steel knife instead the small plastic one. You say that you cannot do that because you're busy but you'll teach him later.
The kid gets angry and start whining more that he want the knife now and don't want the plastic one anymore, you tell him that to use the knife he must practice and be patient, meanwhile he should start with a smaller one.
The kid gets more angry and tell you that he don't need your ugly and stupid knife because the yellow plastic one is more cool, and more safe, and he can do the same things, and that this one is not allowed for adults to use.

Then you laugh in a light way like thinking 'that's cute' and you just say ok.

>>55979663
Use wine
What is docker?
Use wine
True
True

>>55979710
Later in the night when you're sleeping, the kid takes the steel knife and starts playing with it.
He feels very exited, this one is heavier, shiny, it cuts things very easily, now he feels like a professional.
Then he try to cut harder things, or trying to cut the vegetables in small cubes.
During his play he mistakenly cuts his finger and starts crying very loud.
You wake up and hurry up to see whats happening and you cure his finger with a bandage and cleaning the injure.
The kid starts blaming you saying that this is because you didn't lend him the knife when he asked, that you never have time for him, that your shitty knife is dangerous and you're a retard for using it, that he didn't need anyway, that was your fault for always treating him like a kid.

The only thing you do then is hug him and say, 'ok but promise me that you'll not try to use the knife again until being more grown', the kid just nods with his head while a tear walks over his face.

>>55979528
> because it isn't that hard and even grandmas can use it
> because it can from play your cds/dvds/usbs
> because it runs on less resources
> because you also get it for free ,could also call it a birthday present
> because YOU NEVER KNOW IF SOMETHING FITS YOU BETTER UNLESS YOU FUCKING TRY IT.
>because you really have nothing to lose, your fanboyism is just shoved so way up your ass to understand that.

>>55979663
>No, linux can't play my games

Not him but the no games argument is not true anymore. Windows is the best os for gaming mostly due to most game developers are trained into developing for it with microsoft's closed APIs, so the simple process of porting a game that was developed for windows to any other platform will affect negatively the performance of the game. This with the fact that the marketshare is small compared to windows there's hardly an incentive at the moment to optimize for linux, making look as if the platform were worse for games than windows when in fact to flip the situation you'll need to change the idiosyncrasies on the industry itself.

The fact though is that the situation on linux is not nearly the same than two years ago and now those who prefer linux over windows now can play games on it, helping to break the vicious circle, but still there's a lot of things to do for linux to compete in the gaming side. I anyone wants for this to change i recommend to play the games you can on linux when possible and ask for linux ports.

I notice some people doesn't want's for this to happen but if that the case let me ask (not directed specifically to the person i'm replying): how are any of you benefited in a meaningful way with the current situation? because i consider that keeping the statu quo just to have a tool to win an argument on what OS is better is not a meaningful thing. how having less options and practically being locked to MS products benefits you?

Some links:
https://steamdb.info/linux/
http://store.steampowered.com/search/?category1=998&os=linux
https://www.youtube.com/user/tuxreviews/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/airspeedmph
https://www.youtube.com/user/Jakejw93/videos

>>55978378
The hundreds of distros ARE the reason nobody uses linux

>>55979663
>No, linux doesn't have enterprise level software for .NET platform, and that's what I do for a living
>No, the programs I use for my hobbies are not linux compatible

Fair enough if that is for you but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2MvbfuITT8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDRTjzLNK0g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raKHHFv4nN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEoJgQAfb5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7znIHsyqfm0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8hO4K7mZG4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4BUcIDdpAM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFUtqM8oAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eLM3NrOJms

>>55979756
Half of them are shit and unmaintained or tools to serve a purpose because anyone and everyone has taken a distro and made it something new.

>>55978375

Dude, most people just need a browser to do stuff on the interwebs. Linux distros can do that.

>>55979663
There are only a few valid reasons to use Linux on the desktop:
- you want a Unix like enviroment but can't afford a Mac
...

I'm sure there are other very specific valid reasons but I can't think of any at the moment

>>55979769
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qmjz6WXyWBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqZeThC38ug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XW0AqKG5zI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5RIveQypgw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnk_VzedqlU

>>55979699
Well i believe he was the guy that pointed it out

how long until we have a mainstream android desktop OS?

>>55978302
Because MS is kinda silly. It's quite obvious Microsoft is going to drive down Windows development and is migrating to Linux. I think this is one of Sataya's 10 year plan pillars.

They already shoved Ubantoo shell in it due developer demand.

DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS

Do freetards fail to understand that most people want to use their computer and do not care about tweaking their computer?
Until Linux becomes proprietary friendly it will never succed on the market.

>>55979804
Android is shit ...

Correction all current phone OSes are shit

>>55979843
How isn't it "proprietary friendly"?

>>55979847
>Android is shit ...

Based on Linux...

>>55979847
but it has the good goy software the plebs want.

>>55979861
Based on Linux, ruined by google.

>>55979699
that pajeet brought RMS's statement on ubuntu because I said that ubuntu has no spyware

then a sperglord (probably false flagging) said RMS is full of shit

I personally don't care, I just use what I want, I'm just happy there is stallman watching for my freedom and calling out who doesn't respect it

I installed mpv in Fedora 24, but it does not start, I get this if I try to start it from terminal

mpv: error while loading shared libraries: libwbclient.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

Any ideas?

>>55979843
> The Linux Community becomes proprietary friendly.

FTFY

It's not like RMS will come beat you up over creating proprietary program for linux. Look at vivaldi the community loves it.

>>55979896
dnf install libwbclient

If you dont have the wbclient library it wont find it.

y7

>>55979804
what's the use of something like that?
miss google's cock?
do you want 'apps'?

>>55979855
>How isn't it "proprietary friendly"?

Linux tolerates proprietary software, but it cannot be considered proprietary friendly.
Distro fragmentation kills proprietary software.
Also political issues (the whole freedom thing).

>>55979929
adobe suite among much more software for professional use than what linux has on all distro combined.

>apps
in the end that's what people care.

most of the good goy software people complain has no linux port, has an android port.

>>55979726

> because it isn't that hard and even grandmas can use it

So is Windows.

> because it can from play your cds/dvds/usbs

So can Windows

> because it runs on less resources

Yeah, because if I work with full stack .NET and play muh gaymes I surely have P4 and 2 MB of RAM so that what little OS uses matters.

> because you also get it for free ,could also call it a birthday present

But I got all my programs for free, you know, from work. If you are actually productive, the bosses will happily pay thousands of $ for any software which you use to make money (for you and company). Besides, free != better just becasue it's free.

> because YOU NEVER KNOW IF SOMETHING FITS YOU BETTER UNLESS YOU FUCKING TRY IT.

I FUCKING TRIED IT. It has it's uses. As a main desktop system for my needs, it's garbage.

>because you really have nothing to lose, your fanboyism is just shoved so way up your ass to understand that.

I listed my reasons. You resort to fanboyism and name calling.

>>55979861
no one talked about the kernel
oh yeah, you probably don't even know what a kernel is

>>55979908
Last metadata expiration check: 0:06:18 ago on Mon Aug 8 10:43:15 2016.
Package libwbclient-2:4.4.5-1.fc24.x86_64 is already installed, skipping.
Dependencies resolved.
Nothing to do.
Complete!

I get that and still can't start mpv

>>55979739

I'm not saying it can't play ANY games, I'm saying it won't play MY games. Yes, I checked it, they don't work or work with problems.

>>55979941
a dalvik/art implementation for gnu would be better though
android is not for desktops/laptops

>>55978577

>having to sudo chmod +x 777 every fucking time
>going through datasheets to install a simple program since linux lacks a .msi

>>55979957
Have you tried turning it off and on again?

Not joking this actually solves most of my linux issues.

If its still not working then I have no idea.

>>55979973
It would be neat a sort of wine for android.

>>55979945
>oh yeah, you probably don't even know what a kernel is

Naaaah, I just like triggering freetards

>>55978327
This.

Desktop Linux is slow buggy unstable garbage.

>>55979957
If it's arch that is expected it is cutting edge after all

>>55979980
>chmod +x 777
what the fuck are you doing?

>>55979996
I wonder if such project exists, there are windows implementation already, we need to catch up, it's probably simpler having the same kernel and the android source

>>55979980
>What is apt
>What is pacman
>What is yum
>What is the aur

What the fuck is wrong with you people? If you need Windows, use Windows. If that meets your needs don't add Linux onto it. If you don't need Windows at all, then just use Linux. Don't use Linux and Windows unless you really do need something Linux offers that Windows does not. They both have their respective uses and neither is the end all answer. Some people only need one, stop trying to force the other on them. Simple stuff.

Just don't use OS X. It's only "useful" if you need to make software for OS X. A grim ouroboros of useless shit.

>>55980027
>Using a package manager
>Not compiling from source

>>55979941
>>apps
>in the end that's what people care.

Heresy, people want to tweak their tiling window manager all day.

>>55980035
>2016
>Compiling from source
Why?

>>55979721

>Use wine
>What is docker?
>Use wine

Again, WHY would I want to do that if it already works on Windows? What am I getting, apart from lost time to set everything up (IF it works)? And no, free isn't an argument, becasue a day of my work is worth more than Windows license.

>>55979721
>Wine

Into the trash

>>55979769
>>55979787

Tha'ts mostly CAD and graphics. They'are not the programs I use.

>>55979475
In that precise case, the horse would be linux, while the car would be windows.

>>55980087
>the horse would be linux

Linux would be feet. Bare feet. But you get the source code to build your own shoes.

>>55980052
You get the latest releases of software, not the "latest version offered by your distribution through its repositories".

>>55980060
Not to defend linux-tard in this thread, but linux is both free as in beer, and free as in speach

>>55980113
Cancer is also free

Because it couldn't make as much money if it had to release all of the source code for its OS because people would start releasing it for free all over the internet and it wouldn't be illegal.

>>55980014
it is Fedora 24

>>55979980
Every time what? Could I say I hate Windows because I have to run every time?
Lrn2english

>>55980035
>implying your compiler will not set permissions automatically

>>55980060
>a day of my work is worth more than Windows license
do you ever think how much money are you wasting posting here?
I suggest to get out as soon as possible, stock markets could crash if you stay any longer

>>55980104
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re refering to as shoes, is in fact, feet/shoes, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, feet plus shoes. Shoes are not a means of transport unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning fett system made useful by the feet bones, joints and muscle system components comprising a full mean of transportation as defined by POSIX.

Many pavement users run a modified version of the feet system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of feet which is widely used today is often called “shoes”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the feet system, developed by the GOD.

There really are shoes, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Shoes are the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the body’s resources to the other appendagess that you have. The kernel is an essential part of an human body, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete human body. Shoes are normally used in combination with the feet of the human body: the whole system is basically feet with shoes added, or feet/shoes. All the so-called “shoes” brands are really distributions of feet/shoes.

>>55980104
>you get the source code to build your own flying car
ftfy

>>55980180

The time I saved on not configuring Linux is the time I can use to shitpost here. You jelly someone has an actual job or what.

>>55980214
>works with .NET
>calls it an actual job

lel

>>55979968
>>55980077
Ok, but consider two things:
1-it's pasta, so it's not necessarily directed a you, it just address common arguments against linux.
2-i said "Fair enough if that is for you"

No one is trying to lure you to linux, if you like windows more or you need a windows-specific tool for your work is fine and respectable, i'm just adding info for the people to have a more complete panorama of the situation.

>>55980245

I do things other people think it's worth paying money for. That's a job. Umad nobody wants to hire your "but im an elite coder, I do C 12h a day in my mom's basement" ass?

>>55980245
>Write fizzbuz in C
>Thinks is Alan Turing

If it earns him money it's a job

>>55980281

Again, not being the "linux is only terminal and not usefull for anything guy" I'm just saying it's not good for ME. The common rambling here is that Linux is better at everything and is better for everyone.

I get the fair enough part, just wanted to make the point above clear.

>>55980214
I've a job anon, I'm a linux sysadmin
just pointing out your cognitive dissonance

>>55980285
I don't want to hear about the sex acts you perform to pajeets for money.

Yes its a job.

I up my rate every year because fewer and fewer people learn pascal.

>>55980285
Dude, it's fine if you're being paid for using microsoft technologies, the part that makes hard to take you seriously is:
>Umad nobody wants to hire your "but im an elite coder, I do C 12h a day in my mom's basement" ass?

The fact is there's other people who works with non-windows-specific technologies and maybe using non-windows operative systems (including linux) and also earns money, you trying to look down at them only makes it look like you have a self induced inferiority complex.

P.D. I'm not the other guy, disregard trolls.

>>55980329
How'd you get it? all the job ads I see here are fucking winshit server 2008 :(

>>55980329
>I'm a linux sysadmin

How long is your beard?

>>55980245
And this is why you're NEET

>>55980342

I do not, in fact it's the same level as his:

>.net an actual job
>lel

Stupid post, stupid response.

I hit not on actual C programmers with qualifications and knowledge, I hit on guys like those who think they are the cream of the crop because they use some secret (yeah, nobody knows about C or python or asm or ...) language and think they are better that people who use "popular" platforms.

Tl'dr I respect any specialist, regardless of his chosen field, if he's an actual specialist and not a self proclaimed one.

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>>55980310
>Again, not being the "linux is only terminal and not usefull for anything guy" I'm just saying it's not good for ME.
As i said is respectable.

>The common rambling here is that Linux is better at everything and is better for everyone.
Be fair, there's a lot of anti-linux posts and threads in this board too, there's trolls and idiots in all the communities, don't pretend to be the victim of people coercing you to use an specific product because it'll not gonna work. pic related.

>I get the fair enough part, just wanted to make the point above clear.
ok

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>>55980400
ok but consider pic related, it already happened to you, now you look as stupid as him but apparently that's what you wanted.

>>55980405

There's an equal amount of "win is botnet, why aren't you on linux yet" "i unistalled win and linux is SO much better at everything" and so on threads.

No victimization, just pointing out. I know there are also trolls for Windows but trolls gonna troll.

>>55980477
>There's an equal amount of "win is botnet, why aren't you on linux yet" "i unistalled win and linux is SO much better at everything" and so on threads.
That's exactly what i said.

>No victimization, just pointing out. I know there are also trolls for Windows but trolls gonna troll.
Oh, good.

>>55978327
>pretending to be anything other than a neckbeard
>uses desktop pc to play gaymes

fuck outta here

>>55978378
>marketshare

This is the dumbest argument and just doesn't correlate to the quality of Linux distros for the simple fact that 99.9% of the population buys a computer that already has an OS installed on it, which due to MS making deals with hardware manufacturers will be Windows most of the time.

>>55980568
>Linux isn't used because computer come with Windows installed

Bullshit. Plenty of people have installed Linux on their machine and have soon returned to Windows.
Face it, Linux is not ready for the desktop and it probably never will.

>>55980138
And Cancer is free to leave, too!

>>55980245
I lol'd at this stupid linux guy.

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>>55980624
nice MOPPING UP you have there.

>>55980735
Nigga people install pirated Windows versions all the time. Some even go to the trouble of installing a hacked version of OSX on their PCs. But they are somehow incapable fo installing Linux on their computer.
How delusional are you?

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>>55980843
>Nigga people install pirated Windows versions all the time.
People does this or most of them asks someone else to do it for them?

>Some even go to the trouble of installing a hacked version of OSX on their PCs.
What is the percentage of people who does this, is bigger than the linux installations?

>But they are somehow incapable fo installing Linux on their computer.
No one said installing linux is hard but your arguments are based on predictions and empty claims.

>How delusional are you?
Don't worry, tell your boss that your EVANGELISM is very EFFECTIVE. But seriously, You should ask a company to pay you for thrash-talking and spreading FUD on their competitors instead of doing it for free.

>>55978358
>because patents
Citations, please?

After all patents expire after 20 year these days, and 17 years earlier. Unix is from 1969 so patents from then have expired. Also you can legally work around patents if you are sufficiently inventive.

t.Patent Agent

>>55981707
then how was santa-something suing linux up until 2007?