/pcbg/ - PC Building General

hey /g/ i havnt been up to date with whats the latest and decent hardware for the past year but a friend of mines wants to game basically on 1080p/60fps. His budget is about 600-800, any builds that will be good for him at that price range? Is amd's chip still shit as usually and what is the better price wise gpu now nvidia new model or amds r9 400s series?

>>55964815
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/XjqYHN
this is the build so far i came up with and i need some help to understand somethings before i tell my friend this. Is the evo 212 needed for a non k cpu? What is the best motherboard brand today now ( use to be asus) also what does one really need for a motherboard really? is heat spread on ram a meme btw never really though it was necessary and makes it look like shit.

>>55965042
>Is the evo 212 needed for a non k cpu?
It will run somewhat quieter than the stock fan. I wouldn't say it's worth it but I use closed headphones.
>What is the best motherboard brand today now ( use to be asus)
Gigabyte has improved greatly. Asus is still good. MSI is degrading rapidly. ASRock is still hit and miss.
>also what does one really need for a motherboard really?
Other than the obvious selecting the right socket and chipset I presume? Depends on what kind of overclocks are planned. If you're not overclocking at all the cheapest thing with enough ports is going to be good enough. If you are overclocking it gets complicated fast, prepare to look at review after review once you narrow it down to what boards are viable candidates.
>is heat spread on ram a meme btw never really though it was necessary and makes it look like shit.
If you're under 4k MHz it does not matter in the slightest. Heat spreaders just get in the way of XXXL CPU coolers.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/twCBZ8

Take £10 off for shipping, I can get the GPU else where w/ free shipping when they come back in stock (well, hopefully...)

Question - what differs between sticks of 2133/2400mhz RAM and 3000mhz? Just their speeds? Can I do that manually myself? I've been told it can actually make quite a difference.

Also, I just threw the 212 EVO on there. Can I OC with it? Should I look into getting one of those All-in-one coolers?

Thanks. (and my budget is around the current price, dont wanna push it even more.)

>>55965129
alright thanks anon. ill tell my friend is noise a problem or just to buy a decent noise canceling headphones. Ill look more into what motherboards(asus or gigabyte) since i know he isnt going to overclock. As for the ram something less ugly since i hate how gskill look (btw is gskill still the best atm?)

My mobo recently died so Im upgrading to 1151 but want to make sure my ddr3 ram will work with Skylake if I buy a ddr3 1151 mobo

Is it worth getting a skylake CPU? I can get a i5-4590 for really cheap and it's much better price/perf compared to skylakes, esp. including the mobo

Best processor for 1080p 60fps gaming?
I don't plan on doing any over clock to it either.

i7 930 and a gtx 460

worth it to upgrade?

>>55965592
Yes

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idle stats, should I be concerned and begin my next upgrade?
I dont know what 12v stats mean either

>>55964552
Sauce on pic?

>>55965801
I don't get what you mean by sauce, sorry

>>55965129
>Gigabyte has improved greatly.
Gigabyte was always great.

>>55965592
I'd say just GPU for now. OC that 930 and you'll do just fine for some time now.

>>55965887
Not circa 2007, when their BIOS would crap out at the drop of a hat and they hadn't implemented their backup BIOS system yet.

>>55965887
Gigabyte was always and still is a budget brand. They're okay, but not great

>>55965947
Not sure about 2007 but I had a Gigabyte mobo w/ my E8400 and after I dismembered it it's used by a friend of mine with an OC'ed Q6600 and still running like new.
>>55965967
If by budget you mean upper-high with the best value/money then yes.

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>>55965801
>>55965835
Your new is showing guys

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>>55964552
Anon who started the last 2 threads here. Good op. Might want to put right in the Op to stop putting 6600k's in h170 boards and 6600's in z170 boards, kek.

Just to get some discussion, here is the machine i put together in october 2015. What do you guys think? I probably goofed buying an 8350 for gaming, but the good news is that my friend wants to buy the machine from me to use for photoshop and video editing. I probably spent way too much on the case also.

>>55964552
I need a cooler for i7 6700k, will the hyper ev 212 be good? I can't find any Cryorig H7 in europe, open to something else if it's good.

>>55966593
oh, I should mention, the mobo, case, and cpu cost slightly more at the time. My purchase total was right around $800 if including the OS.

>>55965683
>gpu at 81 degrees on idle

By the way the '12 volt stats" is the measurement of the power supplied by the 12 volt rail.

whats with the surge of display ports lately?

I feel like I just ran into new technology because when I last bought my shit never heard of display ports before

seems like video cards all have like 3 of these ports now

>>55966660
I can't play games anymore because my video card hits up to 120 degrees and forces my computer to shut off

tried msi afterburner for 100% fan speed, no difference.

should I also be worried that 12v is hitting up to 13.5v?

>>55966707
legit question, when was the last time you removed dust from your computer?
Also how old is the card? You may need to reapply thermal paste. I had a laptop getting that hot once, turns out the heatsink was physically detached from the cpu. Something is seriously wrong with your machine.

>>55966593
>stop putting 6600k's in h170 boards and 6600's in z170 boards, kek.

Not the OP but any reason why? Just curious.

>>55967015
My card is about 6 years old, but I remove dust from my computer about once a month. I've made sure to clean out the fans from the video card. Never see a temperature drop

>>55967045
You might have to disassemble the card and reapply thermal paste to the gpu die, as well as maybe replacing things like thermal pads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mfykKXqDww&ab_channel=TechYESCity
Don't have to go crazy and do the break cleaner thing, but it's good to watch.

Either that, or it's time for a new card. Hell, a used gtx 950 will outpeform a lot of the 6 year old cards.


>>55967023
h170 cannot overclock and is much cheaper. Therefore you want to pair it with a cpu that also cannot overclock, like a i5 6500/6600 for example.
z170 can overclock, costs a bit more. You putting a non-overclocking chip into it is a waste of money, so if you have a z170 mobo, you should buy an overclockable chip like the i3-6100 or the i5-6600k or i7-6700k.

>>55965140
Your processor can't be overclocked, you'll either have to spring for a 6600K or save £30-50 and get a H170 motherboard and 2133mhz ram.

why are gigabyte gpus bigger than the others yet cheaper

>>55965422
Doubt it, most Z170 and H170 boards only accept DDR4.

>>55965442
Depends on which processor you'd be getting if you got skylake. Unless you're planning on getting a 6600k or a 6700k get the 4590.

>>55965525
AMD FX 8350 / i3 6100 if you're poor, 6600K if you're not.

>>55965592
You can probably squeeze a year or two more out of that CPU with an overclock. Definitely get the fuck away from Fermi.

>>55966595
Buy a Noctua NH-D15, it's near silent.

>>55966688
You can push more information through them. HDMI 2.0 caps at 4k 60fps, but DP 1.3 can handle 4K 144hz.

>>55965140
Everything is compatible but see >>55967131 and >>55967214 Buy a much cheaper but higher quality h170 or b150 motherboard.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/k99Qqk

Finished building this a few weeks ago. How'd I do?

The Fury's mere 4GB of VRAM makes me a little anxious about its longevity, I must admit.

>>55967500
For what? 1080p? Nah you'll be fine.

See >>55967436 - you have a z170 motherboard with a non-overclockable CPU. It's also mini itx form factor which is too small for the mounting inside an Atx mid tower. Find a mini Itx case or a bull lenght Atx form factor motherboard.

Is there any reason to get an i5 vs an i7 when you stream on twitch?

am I going to notice any difference streaming PC games on an i5 vs an i7?

>>55967540

I'm pretty sure that mobo's m(icro)atx.

And I thought that you could OC non-K Skylake chips with the right mobo BIOS.

>>55967540

>For what? 1080p? Nah you'll be fine.

Yeah, I'll be sticking with 1080p for the foreseeable future. Though very recently there have been a few games that demand >4GB even at 1080p at max settings (eg Doom and Mirror's Edge), and those definitely make me nervous.

>you have a z170 motherboard with a non-overclockable CPU. It's also mini itx form factor which is too small for the mounting inside an Atx mid tower. Find a mini Itx case or a bull lenght Atx form factor motherboard.

I bought that board more for its ability to use higher frequency RAM than to overclock my non-OCable CPU. PCPPicker reports an incompatibility between the board and case, but it actually mounts just fine (although the case is hilariously oversized for that board). I needed a larger chassis for the Fury, but I selected a mITX board because the other form factors rarely offer native wireless and bluetooth support at reasonable prices.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sT6vWX
This is my build I'll be ordering today. I'll upgrade to a better gpu later (probably a 1070) but the 950 is perfect for me for the moment. Anything I should change or need to know before I pull the trigger? thanks

>>55967900
Also how's my case?

hi everyone. I'm new to this board, so I hope this is a good thread to ask in.

I need the best, fastest laptop that I can afford with the nicest screen and features for around $600. normally I'd just go to newegg and pick one out, but there are so damn many these days that I thought I'd ask people who know what the fuck they're doing, or at least know better than me. I know 600 isn't a lot, but it's all I got. I'm not looking for anything that needs to run big games, but it would be a plus. just something with a decent sized screen that is fast, reliable, can play some medium tier games but nothing new at top setting or anything like that. mainly for music, browsing, small programs, and things like that. any help is greatly appreciated.

>>55967900
Why not get the Fractal R5 instead of the R4?

Do you guys expect any changes in the value of a used 2500k this year? I lost a bunch of my parts so I need a CPU. I have a lga1155 board and a windfall coming in october.

I figure buy a used 2500k for ~$90 now on ebay and sell it down the road when I buy a current gen chip. To equal it in performance I'll need a z170/oc i3 6100/good ddr4 which will cost $120 more than just the 2500k.

I just don't want it's value to crash when kaby releases and we get more zen details in q4 because if I can't recoup the majority of what I spent on the chip i would have been better off with the 6100 because it's used value will almost certainly remain stable through the rest of the year.

>>55968047
This is a thread about building your own desktop computer from parts.

http://www.logicalincrements.com/laptop is an ok starting point though. If you want gaming just pick a laptop in your price range with a decent graphics card (gtx 950m or higher)

>>55968047
You can most likely spend half that and get something to fit your use case. Visit thinkpad general. Otherwise the acer aspire 1080p laptop for ~500 on amazon will be fine. I'd just get a mint t430s on ebay.

>>55968446
Why would I? Is my motherboard good? Thanks

>>55968657
To add, I had heard that the r4 was better than the r5, but I'd like to hear what you have to say

>>55968644
>>55968627
thanks I appreciate it.

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Is this a decent build for my new system? The purpose is for gaming. Games I play include CS:GO, Rust, Killing Floor 2, various Telltale games. Nothing too intensive, but I would like it futureproof for a while.

Looking to get the price down any way I can. Thanks /g/.

i5 vs i7 for streaming games?

>>55969713
don't shill out actually BUYING windows, just dl an iso and use kms auto lite

>>55970290
>he thinks people actually pirate windows

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Is this a decent build for my new system? The purpose is for gaming. Games I play include CS:GO, Rust, Killing Floor 2, various Telltale games. Nothing too intensive, but I would like it futureproof for a while.

Looking to get the price down any way I can. Thanks /g/.

>>55969895
>streaming games
just kill yourself you fucking millenial garbage

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>>55970401
Fuck off you grumpy shit.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/qRnskT

How's this list? I'm trying to make the best possible $1100 (can go a bit over) build for for my friend. He said he needs 16gb ram for specific applications, and is set on the SSD/HDD combo. He said he also values silent operation, which is why I have the aftermarket HSF on the locked cpu.

He also needs an optical drive for watching dvd's, not sure if he needs blu-ray read/write. What's the cheap-ass go-to for optical drives? I've never researched them since I don't need them myself.

Purpose is gaming and programming, not sure if he's doing anything with long compile times.

Suppose I have a non-K i5 CPU and some 2400MHz DDR4 RAM. Suppose also that an H170 mobo and a Z170 mobo with the same features are available at about the same price (a couple of dollars difference). My understanding is that the Z170 would give me a very minor performance boost (less than 1%) because it would support the RAM's full speed and not restrict it to 2133MHz, and that would be the only difference. Is this correct? Would there be any reason to get the H170 over the Z170?

>>55966593
What is your monitor resolution? If it's <1080p you don't need fucking 4gb vram on a card.

>>55970670
the similarity in price might be due to the z170 board having less features like certain asthetics, number of sata ports, audio, bios features, ect.
probably just go with the z170 board i guess. Then you can upgrade to a K series cpu later.

How well do Skylake processors overclock? I currently have an i5 2500k @ 4.5GHz overclock on stock voltage. I am thinking of getting a 6600K, but I will I be able to achieve similar clock speeds with it on air cooling?

>>55970722
I *think* they're the same apart from the H/Z difference, at least:

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16813157635

http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16813157639

>>55964552

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/JrPq3F

Hi /g/ I'm really desperate for feedback I'm not going for best of the best but something which will work well to last me a while (and play overwatch on high settings)

I'd appreciate feedback if you think I should change anything out, thanks

>>55970701
I got it on sale for $190 which was cheaper than any other 960 or r9 380 that was currently on the market.

>>55970805
AAAAAHHHH! Forgot budget, £1300 max

>>55970832
Ditch windows and you can save a bit

>>55970580
look good but I would go with the black Fractal R5 design. the type of material they use scratches easily and shows on the white design, but not noticeable on the black one

>>55970805
power supply is insanely overpriced, you can downgrade to the SATA ssd for half the price and no noticeable performance loss, i7 (if only gaming) is extremely overkill, get a 6600k and clock it at like 4.4 on that cooler.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3NxXvV

trying to pick a monitor is driving me insane

someone just tell me what to buy

logicalincrements monitor list update WHEN

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z4fskT

Not including watercooling, planning on full custom cooling with EK blocks.


Looking for something to last years, any other suggestions?

>>55972194
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z4fskT
>over 3k for a build
>FOUNDER edition cards

>>55972253
founders cards are good for water cooling. Almost all of them have great silicon. You're tearing off the cooler any way.

>>55972194
Why would you not get a better processor if you have that sort of budget?

>>55972373
whats wrong with the 6700k? The games performance with X99 stuff is pretty damn tiny

>>55972496
You're clearly beyond such pleb-tier components now. Come take your seat at the grownup table, anon.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/GXKPnn

any screw ups?

>>55971803
also, would this build benefit from a 144hz monitor or should I just go with 60hz and get a nice IPS?

>>55965042
>>55965129
you don't get a fan with an unlocked Intel cpu

>>55973083
I got a fan with my 3570k, but that was a few years ago. Also what's the best value GPU at the moment for 1440p 60 fps max settings? I want to get a 1070 since the 1080 base price is jew tier but the 1070 is also overpriced to shit.

>>55973127
Refurbish gtx 980ti

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/mK3f9W

Hello! I'm looking for a way to lower the price of this buyild by $100 or so.

The build will be mostly used for gaming and casual internet surfing. Nothing really special. The one question I really have is: Should I really go for an i7, or would an i5 do just fine and handle the same?

>>55973163
Anything with corsair CX on it is failure prone. You also only need about 500w (max load spike) for that machine. 550w would be fine.

$300 is WAYYYY too much for a gtx 960. You should pay no more than $200 for it. You can also get an rx 480 for about that price if you can find it. i7 is not necessary for any games on a 1080p monitor. Also you might as well buy skylake to use ddr4.

>>55973265
So many get a refurbished one, or look for a cheaper one? Thanks for the info/review of my build though.

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/9QyNqk

Not really gaming much, just some light 4K gaming. I will be doing video editing, and I just wanted to confirm that all the parts are good. The 1080 has already been ordered and now I'm just purchasing everything else. I want to know if that's a good mobo or not. There are not may in-depth mobo guides so things get a little confusing. Thanks

>>55973265
I payed $190 for a brand new gtx 960. There's a 2gb memory model on newegg right now for $175, and a 4gb tripple fan card for $199.
Don't let pcpartpicker do the shopping for you, they are just a convenience.

>>55966406
Help us out then

>>55970830
Your GPU? That's cool I guess. But if you have 4gb of vram on it, you should get a monitor that goes well with it. No need to have a 720p monitor (for example) with that when you could have a much better res.

I'm not saying to fill your vram up to its max but the closest you can go to the max is good.

>>55973398
I have a decent looking 1080p monitor. Idk where you're getting that from. I play almost every game on high settings with 60fps. The only game that kicks my Vid card's ass really is the Witcher 3, but I turn down the settings a little, and get like 50 fps. Overwatch, Doom, WoW, GTAV, Fallout 4 all look good and run smooth as fuck.

what case should i get larry, he's a friend of the family and hes paying me to build him a pc for light CAD and paying bills and youtube, just cant decide on a case. was thinking mATX but preferably something semi-cheap, was thinkking of rosewill FBM-01

>>55973454

I'm lazy and don't want to do the research, but have enough common sense to assemble the parts and get the system running,.

Anyone want to take a crack out of picking the parts to a new pc, graphics card being a 1070, preferably intel cpu, non rice case, hoping for decent parts, a psu that wont shit itself, ddr4 to the tune of 15 gbs or so, otherwise i dont care, i dont have any special needs really, just want a semi competent modern system.

If you are bored and like doing that sort of thing go ahead and I will greatly appreciate it, I would do all the research myself but I drone at work and then afterwards im usually busy doing other shit that I cant look up optimal parts, and when i can do my own research i stress too much about it and pussyfoot and wait around and doubt.

If no one cares to, that is fine, not a favor i feel will be met, just asking out of curiosity.

>>55973519
did not mean to quote you

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>>55973519
How's this looking? I didn't really know what flavor of 1070 to go for, not sure if $490 for a 1070 FTW is worth or not. Would be upgrading from a 3570k/GTX 670 build that is being handed down to someone else.

>>55973550
Whoops, didn't meant to quote. Although this is surprisingly close to what you want not that I read your post.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/MarkNarukami/saved/mpjYcf

How does it look my bois

>>55973550
>>55973560

lel yeah not bad, sorry im drunk so my misquoting ability is out in force.

flavor is eh, i probably wont do much overclocking so that ability is in the wind, I would if it had the ability and can handle it but its not a demand of mine, would cut the dollars and get something else if it was reliable and quit. would prefer something not noisy if its a leafblower level unit, otherwise, just a good working level 1070 im not worried about burning out

ram seems overkill, is there many instances where a person doing web browsing, skyping, and some gaming where 32gb would be necessary?

case is non flashy enough, i'm not opposed.

I think i remember reading about samsung ssd's being shady quality, dont want to skimp on that, it may be fine I just really dont know, i want one that wont brick itself anytime soon.

>>55973665
>I think i remember reading about samsung ssd's being shady quality
Wat, intel and samsung are top for SSDs

>>55973682
It's quite possible I read wrong, or read it here in a bait post, hence i get tired of doing my own research.

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>>55973665
>>55973550
>>55973519
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/TQQmgL

There are ways to cut costs on this build but you emphasized that you want quality parts.

>>55973728
thanks man

>>55969713
You are using a mATX mobo in a ATX case, which means it is unneccesarily big. You can buy an mATX case and have it a bit smaller.

>>55973728
Welllll I can't find the the cryorig H7 on pcpartpicker any more. I see it on newegg for a HILARIOUS $99.99. They must have suddenly had to stop production of it, or it's a weird market hiccup. Absolutely do not spend $99 on an H7, it's a $38 cooler meant to be a step up from the $25-$30 Cooler master 212 Evo.

Trying to build a rig together before I go to college. I'm working on a $1500ish budget here. Just assembled a list and I'm gonna need some feedback. Mostly gaming on this.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/z6rykT

>>55974088
You absolutely will not see any benefit from that sound card.

250gb of storage is not much at all. You might want to throw a 500gb/750gb/1tb hard drive in there.

Liquid cooler might make transporting the system more difficult. I'd just use a good air cooler.

Rest seems fine.

>>55974223
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/C8ZBZ8
How does it look now? Is a sound card even necessary?

>>55974313
>$1400 build
>low-tier HSF

>powerful $430 graphics card meant for 1440p gaming
>puny $100 21" 1080p screen

I am disappointed in you, anon.

>>55974313
Almost every single motherboard has it's own on-board sound system. Sound cards exist for when A: The on-board is garbage or B: When it doesn't have one. Scenario A doesn't really occur at all in the last 5-10 year. That mobo you want does have sound btw. You might notice a TINY difference in clarity, but you'd see more benefit out of an external Digital to Audio converter, which is way above my head, you get into audiophile territory there.

You did swap out the SSD entirely I see. Were you just avoiding using 2 hard drives? You have plenty of room in the case, and a 2 hard drive system isn't difficult to configure. Just select one as the boot device, and dump large files in the other. My personal recommendation for general use is a 250gb SSD + a hard disk. But if you want the 2tb hard disk and dont want to fork over for an ssd that's totally up to you. Your machine your choice.

Strange choice of a cpu cooler too. It works. it's meant for super tiny computer builds though, and it vents air upward. It would be beneficial to vent the air out of the rear exaust fan that comes with your case. The hyper 212 evo is the default choice most people use, but it's not the best overclocking cooler. Logicalincrements seems to recommend the cryorig H5 over it.

>>55974465
>cryorig H5
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/CRYORIG/H5_Universal/6.html

It is better than the 212. But more expensive, too.

>>55973782
Oh good catch there.

Is there a similar mATX case I can get that has the quality of the Define S and also doesn't utilize an optical tray?

Or should I just upgrade my motherboard to an ATX?

>>55974434
Yeah I'm new to this whole thing so I assumed this would be the best place to get some advice with my part picking. Also changed the monitor to an AOC 4K monitor.
>>55974465
I just swapped it out for the 2tb since I would just assume more would be better if all in one. I think I'm just going to switch to the Hyper 212 and not the H5 just to save some dosh. Other than that, is this baby all good to go?

>>55974589
You need an HDD, if you are saving movies/series/aneme. For your budget, an SSD is absolutely critical. Install your OS and frequently used programs on the SSD, and put your movies and aneme on the HDD.

You should show us the new build so we can judge, since you are changing multiple items.

>>55974589
The 1070 is really powerful, but not sure it's quite capable of handling 4k 60 fps by itself. 1440p monitor is more suitable in my opinion.

Logical upgrade from a 7870? Playing at 1080 with an 8350
Please don't say 470/480

>>55972326

Are you talking about custom cooling or do AIOs exist for GPUs?

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>>55975105
7870 -> 270X -> 370

470/480 is roughly twice as good as your 7870. Or, if you like, see how much extra performance you want from this handy chart.

>>55975144
>1070 20% ahead of 980 Ti

Have they gimped 980 Ti already? What did I miss? This card was dead even month ago.

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>>55964552
Just gonna leave this here....

>>55975158
http://www.nvidia.com/page/legacy.html

Legacy-ed a short while ago.

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One final check before I order the parts. M.2 instead of regular old SATA because I have a bunch of other drives from my old computer going into this and I'd like to save the space.

>>55975241
If that is your sole SSD, I would suggest getting 500GB instead. If your budget is strict, drop to 16GB RAM to make room.

>>55975263
It's not, I have a 500GB 850 evo I use for games that I'll be adding in. Everything else looks okay then? I dropped the PSU from the 750w supernova because that seemed excessive.

>>55975241
I can find quite a few spots to save money but you've got all quality parts, so go for it.

>>55975348
>>55975263
Thanks guys, hit the order button

>>55975373
Make sure to post in /guts/. See you on the other side.

New HBM cards when

>>55975698
Maybe Vega. Probably not. Maybe with the second generation of 14/16nm cards.

>>55975740
I thought it's at least a sure thing that Vega 11 will have HBM2

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This is my current build, except the RX 480; I ordered an RX 470 from Jet.

I am looking to upgrade my cpu to either an i5 or an i7 of the current gen, which means I'll also need to replace my motherboard and memory. That being said, since I am also going to be needing a fresh install, I'm also thinking about getting a new m.2 SSD to go along with it if it's worth it.
I am looking to replace my CPU, mobo, and RAM, and if it is a worthy upgrade, my boot SSD.
After taking a look at Logical Increments, I am thinking of getting either an i7-6700 or 6800. I am tending towards the i7 since I do multitask most days, and I'm hoping to keep my avenues open with respect to future developments. Is going from 6700 to 6800 worth the $100 difference? Which motherboards/memory on that list would be good to pair with an i7? And finally, which m.2 SSD should I get? Is it even worth it over the SATA SSD I have? I am currently using about 130gb/240gb on my current SSD, so having a similar sized one would be sufficient.

>>55973383
>search image on google
>???
>Profit!
How new are you?

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Americans have it so lucky, holy fuck.

>Get excited about building my first PC.
>Shop around and research parts.
>End up on American websites and reviews with recommended price points.
>See how much it is here.
>Usually $70-$100 added to the price.
>Get angry and close page, stop researching.

>>55976179
Look up prices on local pages and then add up what it's more per piece in murica. Muricas 800$ builds are 1000€ here for example, that's why I got my cpu used...

>>55975930
there is no reason to upgrade from ivy bridge, unless you plan to get an i7.

>>55970329
If you're only planning on gaming at 1080p with primarily those games, downgrade the GPU to a 480 or a 970 and upgrade to a newer card when you decide to upgrade resolution or play current games, upgrade with more money in your wallet.

>>55970329
Oh, looking to get the price down any way possible without sacrificing futureproofing? Cheapest Z170 mobo you can find, RAM frequency won't be that noticeable in the future. Also, you could get a cheaper case.

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>>55975186
Soooooo who shall be the mascot of /pcbg/ then? I nominate Kurisu, who IIRC, was the character in the image used for the first thread.

>>55967554
>Is there any reason to get an i5 vs an i7 when you stream on twitch?
>>twitch

This is why /g/ is dying.
If you have to ask this question, you barely deserve a processor. Continue streaming your shutting gaymen on your Dell laptop faggot

>>55976638

The 970 and 1060 are practically the same price. What cases do you suggest? I don't need an optical drive.

>>55964552

I'm planning on upgrading from

Q8300 / 8GB DDR3 1333MHz / Gigabyte P35C-DS3R

to

I3-6100 / GEIL Dragon16GB DDR4 2666MHz / MSI B150M Bazooka

Total costs for this upgrade are around €300 (budget max. €400). Some light gaming will be done (Banished, CK2, EU4). I'll upgrade my current HD6770 to a RX 460/470 a bit later.

Any thoughts, /g/?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/knxZf8
Opinions? Criticism?
Im looking for a new gaming PC.
Nothing hardcore, just want to play the usual stuff. Pc i have now is alright, but old, loud as a jet engine and twice as hot. Can smell the plastic melting whenever I play a newer game
I dont know very much about building a pc do I just picked the highest rated, reasonably priced stuff. $700 is the price im willing to pay

>>55977635
Just get the 4gb rx480 or a cheaper 1060 if you can find one

So that the 390x seems to be stronger than a 480 should i get one? Aiming for a nice 140hz 1080p experience.

>>55977777

>>55964552
I ordered new parts last Saturday. They should be here tomorrow.

>i7 6800K
>MSI X99S Gaming 7
>16 GB DDR4 3300 MHz RAM
>Fractal Define R5
>Alpenföhn Olymp

All in all, I paid 900€ for everything. I'll keep using the Seasonic 650W PSU as well as the R9 390 and HDDs from my old PC.

I'm hoping that encoding videos will be a lot faster with this new hardware. My old one was an i5 3570K.

>>55977635
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Bwtpb
Updated it, switcged a few things around
Let me know what you guys think

>>55977129
I don't mind as long as it's a cute anime girl.

Is a Fury X overkill for 140hz 1080p?

What kind of build do you need for a non-gaming pc? Just general web usage and music consumption

I see different cyrorig h7's... is this the one everyone says is good?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565

>>55979186
Just get a cheap APU or Pentium/celeron. If web browsing is the most resource intensive thing you do, pretty much anything will do fine.

>>55979095
Yes. Get a 1070 instead.

>>55979440
My monitor doesn't have g-sync

>>55974589
Depending on ur gpu's vram size, switching to a higher resolutiin montitor would mean you have less space for things like ultra textures and other more advanced textures.

>>55979440
And they have about the same performance...

>>55965129
evo 212 is worth it and a safe bet, personally. benchmarks i think unanimously show that it is a super great value in comparison to other heat sinks

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>>55977188
Fuck off.

I already have my computer put together, so I'm just looking to upgrade my GPU right now, but I don't know what I should be looking up or researching specifically.

I currently have an XFX Radeon HD 5870 that I got many years ago and it's starting to show its age. I browsed this thread and I'm seeing people go for an RX480 or a 1070. Ignoring my budget, is there a reason I should go for one over the other? I also don't know what's coming out in the future, so should I wait for anything coming out instead?

>>55980304
>Ignoring my budget, is there a reason I should go for one over the other?
Some people dislike AMD or Nvidia for various reasons(AMD's reputation for bad drivers, Nvidia's driver's bricking cards practically every year and dubious PR like the whole 970 3.5GB debacle, etc).

>>55964552
Should I get a 970 or 470?

>>55980220
Kys

help me out /g/. So my friend and I are trying to figure out what I should build for my first PC. He suggested this: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cwmYHN
But it's a little over my price range.
This was my suggestion:http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DfngJV
Is there anyway I can improve my suggestion to make it better, or my friend's suggestion to make it a little less pricey? My range is about $550 excluding windows and peripherals

>>55980570
also, I don't care much about running games on ultra in 1080p at 60+ fps. I'm ok with running things on normal as long as it's at least it stays consistent at 60-70fps. I wanna play games like csgo, WoW, Dayz, and Overwatch.

I'm thinking about upgrading my 560ti to a 1070, but I currently have a i5 750.

Should I upgrade my CPU too? Or is it not worth it?

>>55980607
How do you feel about used hardware? A refurbished gtx 960 is about $130

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Is there a reliable collection of info on hardware that works well for hardware pass through anywhere on the web? Looking for a motherboard with lot of usb hubs so I can pass one through to a vm with video card.

Still on the fence between a 4 core skylake and a 6 core non. So really whatever hardware I can find to make the process easy will be the determining factor.

Everything I can find on google is spotty as fuck. Want to run linux with a windows 10 vm.

>>55965525

Processor means next to nothing for gaming. Just having enough processor and memory and a good card.

I'm looking to upgrade, but I'm retarded and am still not sure of what the difference between motherboards and shit is.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6L7ykT
Will this work? I went with he cheapest motherboard and ram I could find at my local (online) store. Is buying a xeon retarded? I'm not fully set on the RX 480 yet. It depends on which cheap GPU I can get my hands on. I'm looking to do some light gaming (WoW, Hearthstone etc.) at 1080p and maybe some streaming in the future.

>>55981141
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6L7ykT

Dont get a xeon unless you know you need one. Its a server processor and the only people using them on desktop are people really into video rendering or other work tasks. Like the youtube people.

Go check out falcon guide its in the op logical increments.

I see different cyrorig h7's... is this the one everyone says is good?


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565

>>55981212
The lower end Xeons are literally the same CPUs as upper end i7s, just without the integrated graphics shite. If you can get a good deal on one there's no reason not to get one.

>>55979440
And i would prefer not to buy a crippled gp104 chip.
>>55979095
Bump

>>55981261
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF1H68938&cm_re=cryorig_r1-_-9SIA4UF1H68938-_-Product

Get this faget. Balls to the wall or nothing.

I have a 6600k. If money isn't a big worry in these terms, would it be worth to trade it in for a 6700k or nah?
If it matters, I don't plan to upgrade processors for another ~5 years

>>55981517
Right now it shouldn't make a big difference, it might later down the line so it's a yes.

>>55981041

Anyone actually have a working hardware passthrough build?

>>55981461
He's meming you, but that's a great price for that item.
H7 is great price/performance

>>55981803
So the H7 one I linked is the correct one?
Because Newegg has another H7 which is 99 dollars and sold out, so I'm confused

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8BU4M02350&cm_re=cryorg_h7-_-9SIA8BU4M02350-_-Product $99

versus


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UF2DZ6565 35

but they look the same?

>>55981878
See
>>55974044

So, if I'm looking at a 1070, MSI and EVGA are still the way to go, right?

>>55982048
Dont you know about the step up plan?
Of course EVGA

>>55982068
I don't, I'm afraid; I've not gone nVidia since my 8800GTS.

>>55982091
>>55982068
Oh fuck, that's brilliant.

fukken sold.

http://www.evga.com/support/stepup/

So how is this looking so far?
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZKHzM

>>55982122
One more stupid question; all other things being equal, including price, am I better off getting a Founders Edition, or the SC GAMING ACX?

>>55965042
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/MzxF8K
Dual channel RAM > Single DIMM

>>55982165
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/cZKHzM
That cooler is not meant for OC.
You bought a K series (overclock) processor and a H110 chipset (no overclock motherboard).
Get a Z170 and a CM 212 EVO/Cryorig H7 (low-medium) or Cryorig R1/Noctua NH D15 (high) cooler if you want to OC.
Also get a supernova G2 PSU.

>>55982185
Never buy reference models
Worse cooling worse Overclocking capabilities etc

>>55982185
>>55982414
only get the reference model if you're planning on removing the cooler and replacing it with a waterblock.
or get it if for some reason you would prefer your gpu to not blow air into your case (if you have a tiny case etc)

>>55982538
This. Blowers only make sense if you're building mini itx.

>>55982538
I have an ATCS 840, so airflow and space is very much not an issue.

Cheers guys; Now I'm gonna go work out if it's worth sticking that on the 4770k I currently have, or if a Skylake is enough of an upgrade to be worth it.

>>55973643
Remove that disk drive.

>>55976179
>he pays VAT
just reduce 20% from your price, and you get the US price
that 20% tax either goes to refugees or corruption, depending where you live

Fury x or 1070 for 1080p 140hz? Both cost the same here. I dont think the 4gb ram will bottleneck at 1080p and i heard hbm would give a nice boost in dx12/vulkan.
Will the driver overhead meme apply to a 6 core xeon?

I was on the last thread but got little to no answer so I'll ask this thread.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4MYn7h

While I'll be doing some gaming(DIRT, GTA:V, Hitman, GRID, etc.), I'll also be doing heavy HD media consumption, heavy media streaming (including sports), heavy (Chrome and Firefox) tab abuse, audio production (Reason, Reaper and Cubase) and I'll be using it for Autodesk and Solidworks.

I already have an SSD but I'd like to add more SSD and HDD in the future so I'll be looking into RAID config. I also have 34" ultrawide 1440p monitor.

Can someone recommend me a case for £70 max. the Corsair 200/300R seem to have good reviews.

>>55984168
Don't x99 boards have 8 dimms? I don't know if they all need to be populated or not.

>>55964552
Is she playing starcraft 3?

>>55984303
Yes, at least the x99 boards I've seen. Though I wouldn't know if they needed to be populated, either.

>>55984303
>>55984481

Yes on the 8 slots and how many need to be populated depends on your cpu. Either 2's or 4's cause some of those have quad chanel though the cpu itself might maybe be able to use either.

I've been thinking about building a small home server to back up some data, act as a seedbox and run a couple of plex streams of my media. I haven't built a server from scratch before (always just used old beige boxes and such from ebay) has anyone got any experience with what I should be looking for/at to do this on the fairly cheap end of things?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/jvwrr7

is this the perfect build? i'll be playing wow 90% of the time and bf4/bf1/stalker/csgo for the other 10%

i was thinking the fan might be overkill but i have temperature autism

anything else i should swap out?

>>55984581
>noctua
>gigashit (budget brand)
>falling for the 144hz monitor hype

everything else is solid though

>>55985224
what's wrong with noctua and gigabyte? they're very highly rated on pcpartpicker. what would you suggest instead? i went with 144hz since the only other option was 1080p 60hz, figured i might as well upgrade refresh rate

Is there a pc I could build to out perform a PS4 at the price point of around £300? (poorfag)

>>55985613
If you use used hardware then yes.

whats a good gpu for just 1080p 60fps gtx 960 or r9 380?

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So a couple of days ago my computer case arrived, but the delivery guy left it out in the rain. The case was covered in plastic, but after I removed the plastic I could tell that some water got in, and some parts of the case were a little wet inside and outside. It's completely dry now, but I'm wondering if it's possible that it damaged any of the wiring and, more importantly, if I put all my components in the case, is it possible that the damaged wiring might short circuit or damage my components. Any thoughts?

>>55985715
At that price range, you might as well buy an RX 470. I just found one on Newegg for 200 bux

>>55985897
all right will check
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/FtQ7XH
this is my build so far and i think my microcenter around here might have a 480 on stock if not then ill get a 470.

>>55985872
You're alright, as long as it's completely dried out it's fine. The paint will protect any of the metal from rust and all the wires are insulated. I use that same case on my TVPC. It's nice, but you really need a few extra fans or else it's an oven.

>>55985872
Give it a little more dry time. It would only damage the wiring if the device was powered on at the time. Leave it in a hot, dry room if possible. Hell put your heat on next to it if you're paranoid. That said, when you saw the wet, soggy box, you should have sent the package back.

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>>55973340
EVGA has B-stock (scratched and/or dented but with 1 year warranty) 960 4GB cards for 150-160 bucks right now. I got a 980ti hybrid for $320.

>>55985872
The computer case itself won't have any active electronics.
The switch will be fine, the USB ports are just pinouts. Shouldn't matter even if they got corroded.

Take them out though and inspect them, dry them out and you should be good. The main concern really would be the metal of the case itself, but if it's powder coated you'll be good as well.

>>55982847
I'd personally pick the 1070 because the Fury X is apparently prone to some issues with the pump and runs a lot hotter and takes a lot more power. That probably means less to you though since you're running a six core Xeon.

Fury X will outperform the 1070 in most games by a slim margin, but the 1070 overclocks better. A lot better. You can almost certainly pick up that 2-3% performance loss with ease, even on stock voltages.

Fury X will probably be quieter, if you get one with a good pump.

>>55977129
I also vote for Kurisu.
Without any nay votes or appeals Its now official.

Kurisu is the mascot for PCBG.

Heres what i want to have eventually as i want to go down from matx to mini itx.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Qnbvf8

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I need a reliable, quiet, 4pin 120mm fan. Any suggestions?

If I´m going to do some light video editing (1080p/60hz) gonna record some gameplay (Titanfall, Halo and BF1)
This build is my first option
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/39kLPs

If I save money for another 2 months, this would be the build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6NJRkT

Is really worth the increment in price tag? I will be using Blender and Premiere for video editing
For recording gameplay gonna use OBS and for the console a El gato capture card

>>55988101
Kurisu-tina

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Panchito/saved/#view=JrGBD3

This will be my first build, I already have an RX 480. Need input before I start buying. If there are an equivalent to parts that would be cheaper without sacrificing how good the computer will be, would be helpful.

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>>55988765

Forgot to mention, computer will mostly be used for music composition and light gaming.

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How's mine? Time to replace my system from 2011

Only thing I'm unsure about is the mobo. It's either the Asus Z170-A or the Gigabyte GA-H170-Gaming 3, not sure which one between the two. Need one with optical audio

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>>55988101
Seconded.

>>55988927
H170 chipsets don't have have unlocked multipliers (meaning you can't really overclock). Get the Z170-A.

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>>55988765
Do you happen to live near a Microcenter? I can knock off quite a few bucks if that's the case.

Either way, you can go for a Corsair CX500.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hgGkcf/corsair-power-supply-cx500

The two things you can shave the most money from will be your case, power supply, and CPU. Getting a different mATX case (you can get similar aesthetic ones for $20 less), different PSU like the one I listed, and moving to an i5-6400 will shave you about $60.

Look for other 144Hz monitors on sale.

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>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKHNPs

My friend is upgrading from just a shitty laptop, and said he has $1500 to spend on a full desk setup, monitor, KB/Mouse, a ModMic thing he picked out, ect. He insisted he needed wifi and couldn't run ethernet to his room. How's this look? The computer itself is for 1080p gaming but the 16gb ram is for programming stuff.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VxXsXH
Friends say I should get an intel i5 6400 instead of the AMD, but that adds another $80 to the build which I don't want. Suggestions?

Can't post speccy screencap because upload speed is worse than dial-up, so here's what i got:
i3-2120
4x2GB 1333 ram sticks
gtx750ti
2x 500GB HDD drives

Because poorfag I dont havemany choices, but what should i pick between these 3 options?
1. a used i5-2500k
2. a 120GB SSD and a 1TB HDD (both are new)
3. a Fiio E10k and go for a better headphones in the future if that rig is already usable
I can get either of them for around 100 bucks
PC mostly used for gaymen and music, I am not too picky so I am fine with stable 30fps even on lowest settings.
Thank you in advance

>>55989732
should be good. if you want advice ditch the hyper 212, stock HSF should be fine on a non-K cpu. put that money towards a better motherboard, and maybe look into M.2.

feel free to ignore this advice if you put it there on purpose and just didn't know the CPU comes with a heatsink

I finally broke and bought a mechanical keyboard and nicer mouse, anyone got any idea of what to bind the keys to?
Right now ive got home, end, refresh, change tab and close tab on my mouse. Want to get some cool opinions.

>>55989873
212 is because he wanted a silent build. I suggested the fractal define r5 or S mid but he wanted that case for some reason.

>>55987840
But with the new oc tools you can push the fury x to 1300mhz. Which company sells a good pump?

Just tried a g705 but would like it to have a cable. Does someone know which would that be? Needs to have freescroll maybe two or four f buttons and similar form factor.

>>55988502
Corsair ML120?