Cac Imaging

>>55963231
that's a federal offense and you can go to jail if you get caught, especially if you try getting back on base after discharge you fucking fag. kys.

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>>55963231
Yes, yess.
Serve your country and kill innocent people just because your CO tells you to. Good goy!

>>55963272
Oh, shit. We got a badass over here, everyone! Let's all look at the badass over here! Be careful of the edge... it'll cut ya!

>>55963271
Lol I would never want to get back on base. I just need a way to access mypay bol jst etc..

>>55963272
Lol wow, go back to /b

>>55963272

>tips fedora

tumblr and reddit/r/chomsky is the other way

>>55963307
why access your mypay after you get out? nothing will populate and you won't receive an LES regardless.
you could just print off everything you need prior to discharge like everyone else you dumbass.

>>55963365
For the same reason I already archive all my LES, bank statements, end-of-year stock information, tax info:
just in case

>>55963307
You realize that your certs are gonna get revoked for those sites? Keeping your cac or making a backup won't let you keep access to those things.

>>55963379
then print them all off a month before your transition? i don't see how you can't get your head around that. your TAP should tell you how to log in to ebenefits after you get out for any additional information you need such as your w-2 and shit and other crap. but it seems you don't wanna hear this.

The question is whether I should or not. The question is how to do it. I'll just tell them I lost it. Not sure why I thought 4chan would be useful. My mistake.

>>55963420
"Isn't" rather

>>55963408
I already have all that stuff

Why can't you get your head around that's not the point

>>55963420
>>55963433
either way, they'll put the ets date as your expiration date like they always do, you'll also get counseled by losing your shit by your command dumbass.

>>55963420
>>55963433
Your question may not be whether or not you should.
The question you need answered is whether or not you should.

You should not.

>>55963457
You're one of those people who attempts to create conflict where none exists nor is necessary. That's cute

>>55963420

What is your MOS/Branch and are you enlisted?

Have you not thought about staying in the reserves?

>former enlisted army here
>thinking of getting back in infantry officer route - nasty guard

Having the military side job is really good in the long term, I should have stayed in. It gives you lots of options and some solid pay (especially if officer). Two days of work can get me 500$ after taxes for doing basically nothing. I work for government as full time job which makes it that much sweeter if I want to go on orders and shit and do something cool for a bit (cant fire me or tell me that i cant).

Think about it man, the benefits bretty good but I know shit can get old

>>55963420
You seriously can't. It's not 4chans fault that what you are hoping to do is not only impossible but illegal too. The admins running the sites like mypay etc will revoke your certs for those systems. It may not happen immediately but it will happen. Having a backup of an out of date certificate will do you no good.

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>>55963465
>thinks he can get away with illegally duplicating his cac after departure from the military
that's cute

>>55963291
>>55963307
>>55963308
>being this much in denial
soldiers are dumb animals with no will. Their only purpose is to absolutely serve their masters. If you work for the military you are a failure and you should kys immediately.

>>55963625
This, desu.

>>55963231
But why? Most installations have card readers now.

>>55963231
>image a CAC card
You know that the whole idea behind them is they're supposed to be hard to clone right?

>>55963824
>chip
>hard to clone

Pick one

>>55963625
Goddamn, how did all this edge get even edgier???

When you get out of high school, you're gonna change the world. Thanks for waking up all the sheeple, edgelord!

>>55963625
Question: do you think a wealthy nation (any one) can survive without a military?

>>55964292
Why are you so fucking stupid?
No, I won't change the world, but if my boss tells me to do immoral things I'm gonna tell him to fuck off, because there are 20 other companies in my city that will immediately hire me for the same or better money. If a soldier refuses to obey order he'll be either shot or detained&jailed. You're a brainless human trash with no perspectives and no value if you work for the military. Take your butthurt and kill yourself immediately. The world will be a much better place without you and your kind.

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>>55963307
you are a retard, just create a username and password for MyPay. most of those other systems will let you do that as well. you aren't going to be able to log in with your certs after they expire anyhow

also, I've reported this thread to the FBI and DCIS.

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>>55964312
I don't know. Why don't you ask the richest country in the world?

>>55964312
Of course it won't survive without brainless meat like soldiers. Why are you asking?
I'm just pointing out that only brainless stupid people go to the military. I know the value of my life and that's why I'd better kill myself than become such a trash.
Fun fact: ancient civilisations wouldn't exists without human trash plebs that serves their masters. Which one do you want to be?

>>55964328
Lol
>Has no idea how the UCMJ works
Thats fucking adorable

>>55964387
"lol"? Which part of what I said you did not understand, you retarded human trash?
Killing is legal. You can't refuse the order of exterminating soldiers of the country you're invading. If you will enjoy your death/jail time.
You don't decide if you take part in invading other country. If you're a part of the military - you do what the politicians tell you to.

>>55964361
>those tabs
makes me kek every time

>>55964363
they serve in the swiss army... and of course the swiss army would defend them.

This is definitely a bait thread.
OP, regardless of you keeping a clone of your CAC, the guard at the base will see that your card has a revocation order on it and you'll be told to fuck off while military police show up and he's gripping his side arm. Your card will also be taken.

>>55964380
So you know you need them to survive, you just hate them for doing it.

Okay, got it. You're an entitled asshole.

>>55964474
And you're legally obligated to defy unlawful orders. But you wouldn't know that; you already made up your mind based on what you hear. That makes you an asshat

>>55965199
>unlawful
you still don't get it, retard.
Just because something is legal doesn't mean it's moral. Invading Libya wasn't moral, yet, it was legal.
>>55965178
Except I don't live in murika. My country never invaded other country and it never did anything immoral using it's military. That's why I respect my national soldiers.
US military is a different story. You deserve no respect whatsoever.

>>55964363
That's not the richest, dumbass.

>>55965286
I wish we could all be liberal, entitled assholes like you. Unfortunately, most of us have to live in reality. Must be nice to be so sheltered.

Your argument is all over the map, literally now, and you have no real substance to it. That makes it clear that I'm arguing with a child or a very immature adult. Please tell me- why would I waste my time with a child or immature adult?

>>55965316
Technically second richest, behind Qatar. Unless you're a retard who looks at raw GDP instead of per capita.

>>55965286
What country, anon?

I bet you won't say. I bet you know why.

>>55965383
So you were wrong. Got it.

>>55965354
I'm not liberal you fucktard. I got nothing to do with what you call a liberal party in your shithole country.
Nice projections. This all explains your pure ignorance: you don't have any real goals in your life. You don't give a fuck about other people lives. You care about being paid, so you joined the military like a whore.
Now go and serve your CO. Maybe one day you'll be promoted if you suck enough dicks in your unit. KEK

>>55965410
Poland.

>>55965459
Go back to /pol/, kid. You're trying way too hard.

>>55965513
And you don't include any actual value in your posts. Care to elaborate on anything you say?
Why am I wrong? You still didn't prove anything, other than being a typical brainless murifuck. I wonder how much you must weight. Is it true a typical muriclap requires EMT assistance to wipe their asses?

>>55965551
Because you haven't actually made any claims to refute. Just childish rants and emotional please. You're very immature, and very bad at forming an argument.

>>55965498
Ah, yes. We appreciate your support. It's nice how you help fund our military by purchasing your supplies from us.

I also all of the "dumb pole" jokes. Quite a contribution.

>>55965589
Nice projections. I must say you definitely won this conversation.
Now go like a typical americlap and brag about the products you recently acquired in one of the consumerism threads.

>>55965689
That's the hallmark of a weak person, when they're obsessed with winning on the internet. Do you need to win? Would it help your self esteem if you thought you did?

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>>55965626
>dumb pole jokes
Oh the irony.
Anyway, it's better to be "stupid" (however you define this, especially considering pic related kek) than being a infectious, destructive murderer that invades other countries and kills millions of people.

>>55965807
Lol! You're so desperate, aren't you? You NEED to win- after all, you're the one that brought up winning in a conversation on 4chan. That's weird.

I'll tell you what- I'll take pity on you. I'll give you the last word, as a gift from me to you. You really seem to need it much more than I ever would. So go ahead, big guy- you can win. I hope it helps you. :)

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>>55965807
>below average
AMERICA AMERICA AMERICA!
FUCK YEAH!
WE NEED MORE DUMB SOLDIERS AND LESS STUDENTS!

>>55963231
t. mohammed trying to get base access from 4chan

>>55963465
Where there is none? No self respecting soldier is going to want another to commit a felony and breach of security. In fact they're going to try to dissuade you, shitter.

Your credentials are going to expire anyway and you won't be able to use it anywhere anyway making that felony you commit entirely useless.

>>55963272

Pacifist turbofaggot 9001 detected.

>>55966073
If you could read, mental nigger, you'd notice I'm not a pacifist.
PS. your life doesn't matter.

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>>55963625

Someone has to do the job faggy pussies like you lack the testicular fortitude to do.

>>55966100
Edgy as fuck, dude. Coolest teenager on 4chan. You rock.

>>55965868

Fewer students, you fucking illiterate shitbag.

>>55966109
No way, the world is wonderful and perfect and violence is never necessary!

At least in this fag's fantasy world.

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>>55966109
Yep, someone has to spy, invade and murder innocent people. Good job America! Your military is the best!

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>>55966153

>>55966153
You're just bitchy that your tiny country isn't a superpower. Or even a power. Aren't you grateful to the UN for protecting you?

>>55966128
>illiterate
Except english is not my native language, and I know three languages.
What about you?
Or you know what? Don't respond. Just keep it to yourself.
Ignoring the point of a statement and bitching about grammar is the main reason why you should return to reddit. Please do.

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>>55963231
Sorry muhammad, maybe you should find someplace else to start a shooting.

>>55966215
Why did you learn English? Is it because most of the business in the world is conducted in it? I wonder why that is...

>>55966215

You tire me, you utterly worthless heap of dreck. Go impress all your middle school friends with your tales of your multilinguism and other faggotry.

>>55966207
I don't care about my country not being a superpower. Why should I? Are you implying this has any noticeable impact on my life?
>>55966188
Nice meme!

>>55966257
On your life? No. But you seem pretty isolationist and self-centered. The fact is that you exist because stronger countries allow you to exist. The rest of us permit your existence.

>>55966257
Only recently has Poland been free of rule by another country.

You must be young to not remember when the Soviet Union had it's dick buried deep in your countries ass.

>>55966353
And before that, Germany.

>>55966248
>Why did you learn English?
Because it's the world's easiest language thus it's universally used in almost all countries?
>I wonder why that is..
Because see above?
I bet you believe English was made in the US.
>>55966254
Then take your pills, stop posting and leave this thread. Nobody is forcing you nor asking to post your retarded shit here.

>>55963272
>Get paid well for 4 years
>Get 4 years of job experience
>College paid for afterwards

Yeah, I'm definitely the one getting jewed.

>>55966389
You're not that great at following a point, are you? English is the qorldwide language of commerce because it's spoken by one of tbe wealthiest nations in the world, and the one that dominates international trade. The fact that so many other countries speak it is a different topic entirely. Try to keep up.

>>55966389
Just curious: how old are you?

>>55966353
>>55966383
You mean back in the times when the US and UK govts obligated your countries to attack germans if they invade us?
>>55966294
>No.
Then I don't care. There is nothing I can do to change it.
>The rest of us permit your existence.
Which is exactly my point. Even in 2016 you're still bunch of aggressive dumb animals that values military spendings over education and research.

>>55966426
Knowing nothing else about you, he hates you just because of your job. What an ignorant, intolerant ass.

on a related note

/g/ how do I clone my 'friends' keycard for his super secret government job.

This is totally legit btw, not illegal!

>>55966432
>because it's spoken by one of tbe wealthiest nations in the world
Did I say it's not? You clearly didn't follow my point, which was basically:
>you're fucking stupid and you got no moral right to correct me and use it as a point in discussion
Is it better?
>>55966460
I'm 21.

>>55966470
But why are you so weak, that you have to depend on the graces of your neighbors? Is that something ingrained in your culture, or just because you have no other choice?

Humans are animals. We fight and form tribes. You're no different or better, you're just weaker. So you're the pack of apes that hopes that the other groups will let them survive. And you're welcome, on behalf of the rest of the world, for letting you exist despite your lack of strength.

>>55966470
Yeah, back when we all protected you. You're welcome for your freedom. We'll do it again, if you need it. God knows you can't do it on your own.

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>>55966489
I don't hate him. I just stated he's a dumb animal and a whore that desperately needs money. Don't you see a difference?
Here's what one of your former politicians have to say about your kind.

>>55966526
Lol.

>>55966559
>>55966559
>protected you
You're a one big dumb motherfucker. You did exactly NOTHING for entire YEARS of war.
Russians are the ones to be thanked for clearing german cancer. Muriclaps did almost nothing to help us, especially after the war when russians installed their puppet government in my country for another 64 years.

>>55966571
I think you do. You're angry and bitter and attack strangers out of your impotent rage. Probably because you're weak, so the tough talk while remaining anonymous is attractive to you. I guarantee you wouldn't have the balls to be so aggressive and rude in person.

>>55966640
I'm not aggressive and I wouldn't be. Why should I be?
>attack strangers
Since when talking about facts is an attack?
Can you quote the insults I've used to attack you?

>>55966638
Lol. You're so desperate in your hate, that you've let yourself be willfully ignorant to facts. It's sad to see, but common in weaker minds. How pathetic.

>>55966669
Just because your insults are pathetic doesn't mean it reflects badly on you. You're lashing out, it's normal at your mental age

>>55966669
Is this how you debate in your country? Or are you trying to pretend you're not an asshole?

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>>55966679
I don't see any quotes, in that case thank you for your attention and good bye.
>also kys

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>>55966716
>>55966699
>>55966679
Maybe if you wait a bit longer before you post people won't notice you're samefagging,

>>55966732
Do I need to? Did you forget what you said? Are you not able to scroll up? Other people can't spoon-feed you forever; much like your country, you have to do some things on your own. Sometimes, the strong have to let the weak do things on their own. So go ahead, friend- look at your posts and reflect on your lack of maturity and rude behavior.

>>55966759
Yeah, those ones were me. Wasn't trying to hide my replies, Sherlock.

>>55966759
Besides, no one else is here anymore. We fagged this shit up. And it was fun. Good game, faggot.

>>55966780
What? What's that? Bush did 9/11? Jet fuel can't melt steel beams? Is that what you're saying?
Holy shit, did you forget to take your pills again?

>>55966838
Huh?

>>55966489
his "job" is killing people

>>55966875

Not necessarily. Not every job in the military is infantry. Please explain how medics giving free treatments to children in Afghanistan are killing people.

>>55966905
They're fixing up soldiers that kill people. Ergo, they support and encourage more killing.

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>>55965868
you could have at least posted current stats with an actual source instead of a bullshit ass .gif
http://www.oecd-ilibrary.org/education/data/education-at-a-glance/graduation-and-entry-rates_f36b1100-en
but whatever makes you feel like an entitled faggot.

>>55966951
That's not what I asked.

But based on what you're saying, I suppose the polish medics that deployed to both Afghanistan and Iraq are supporting killing, too. Are your soldiers just as bad as us medics?

>>55966999
Holy shit, look at these killers!

http://northshorejournal.org/LinkedImages//2010/04/Polish-medics-treat-injured-Afghan-soldier.jpg

>>55966951
please tell me how supply or hr clerks or mechanics ''kill'' people.
putting it to that extreme you can make it so you're actually contributing to the war effort as well by paying taxes. kys.

>>55966994
>current stats
>picture of the year 2013
kys
>>55966999
Polish soldiers were deployed to afghanistan to stabilize the region, not invade their country based on "muh weapons of mass destruction" slander. Also afghan government asked for it. Did Libya and Syrian govt asked you to invade and destroy their countries?
I bet you must be proud of creating and still paying for ISIS.

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>>55963272
WOOOOH REDPILL INCOMING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAH.

>>55967057
They're a part of the whole.
>putting it to that extreme you can make it so you're actually contributing to the war effort as well by paying taxes. kys.
>you're actually contributing to the war effort as well by paying taxes
BUT YOU ARE. Your people are responsible for ellecting those psychopaths and giving them power to do anything they want.

>>55967061
are you fucking stupid, the stats were acquired in 2013 but i viewed the source in 2016 cause it's impossible to acquire graduation rates for the entire fucking world every year, idiot.

>>55967095
so are you. you're letting them go around ''killing'' people, why don't you do something about it then if you're so high and mighty?

>>55967061
I see. So polish medics are okay when they fix up a war fighter, but US soldiers are bad because America is bad. Even when they're working side by side, yours is a saint and ours is a demon.

Okay, no bias there.

And if you think the US created ISIS, you have a fundamental lack of historical knowledge, or you just buy into what you're told. I just read a really good book called The Complete Infidel's Guide to ISIS, where it lays out the history and inevitability of the self-styled state. Seriously, read it. It'll change your flawed perspective.

>>55967104
In that case your point is invalid. kys

>>55967123
nigga what
>>55966994
posts the actual source of data while
>>55965807
has no source or references to back it up, let alone what year the data was collected

>>55967123
>Kys

You over-rely on that one. It's old.

>>55967173
Lol. Faggot doesn't like killing, but really wants people to kill themselves. Hypocrite.

>>55967119
Let me say this one more time: polish military NEVER invaded another country. They were sent to afghanistan because THEIR govt ASKED for help.
So why should I do anything about it? Is there something we did wrong?
It's YOUR retarded country that destabilized half of the middle east and created the ISIS that beheads random people in Belgium, France, Germany and UK. YOU FIX THIS, because for now most people in the US wants to vote for hillary in the next elections. This will mean even more wars, deaths and destruction.

>>55967210
Actually, Poland took part in the invasion. And they sent killers, too:

>In March 2003 the Polish Armed Forces took part in the 2003 invasion of Iraq, deploying special forces and a support ship.[15] Following the destruction of Saddam's regime the Polish Land Forces supplied a brigade and a division headquarters for the 17-nation Multinational Division Central-South, part of the U.S.-led Multi-National Force Iraq. At its peak Poland had 2,500 soldiers in the south of the country. Other completed operations include 2005 'Swift Relief' in Pakistan, in which NATO Response Force-allocated personnel were despatched. Polish Land Forces personnel sent to Pakistan included a Military Engineers company, a platoon of the 1st Special Commando Regiment, and a logistics component from the 10th Logistics Brigade.

>>55967210
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Armed_Forces
>From 2002 until 2014, Polish military forces were part of the Coalition Forces that participated in the ISAF mission in Afghanistan led by NATO. Poland's contribution to ISAF was the country's largest, since its entrance into NATO.

Polish forces also took part in the Iraq War. From 2003 to 2008, Polish military forces commanded the Multinational Division (MND-CS) located in the South-Central Zone of Iraq. This zone was populated by about 5 million Iraqis, and covered an area of over 65,632 km2. The division was made up of troops from 23 nations and totaled as many as 8,500 soldiers.

more like they were ORDERED to by NATO, their "CO" as you stated, and you're going off saying Polish soldiers aren't killing afghani and iraq people either? how fucking delusional are you?

>Belgium, France, Germany not controlling their immigration laws
more like it's their fault for not controlling who comes in and out of their countries, it's sad what has happened but it goes to show you you can't just go around holding everyone's hand thinking everyone is friendly.

>>55967120
>I see. So polish medics are okay when they fix up a war fighter, but US soldiers are bad because America is bad.
Yes. Polish soldiers helps other countries when they ask for it. US soldiers INVADES other countries. Does it sound clear?
>Even when they're working side by side, yours is a saint and ours is a demon.
Except afghan stabilization mission wasn't war. Know the difference. We never helped in you invading Libya or Syria.
>>55967155
I took this picture from verified source on wikipedia. Here you go: http://www.bbc.com/news/education-11203790
>>55967209
I never said I don't like killing. Care to quote me?
kys
>>55967173
kys

>>55967318
Do you like killing?

>>55967318
>http://www.bbc.com/news/education-11203790
is from 2010
>>55966994
>is from 2013
hmmmk.

>>55967328
Depends who we kill.

>>55967339
>>55967318
actually that's has it's source from 2008, lmao, the fag is delusional as fuck.

>>55967358
So some people should be killed?

>>55967363
He's just desperate to make the us look bad. It's pure hate.

>>55967339
I don't see any progress since 2010. Do you feel more educated?
I don't think so.
What I can see for sure is an increasing number of feminists, faggots and SJWs in your country. Really makes you think, huh? All those gender studies that artificially increases the number of graduates...

>>55967367
Yes, won't you agree?

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>>55967450
>oh shit i'm losing the argument, better change the subject!
nice job anon, really got me there, damn.

>>55967465
Absolutely. Who should decide who that is?

>>55966571
>dumb animal and a whore
We're all whores, selling our time and efforts for money.

I just choose to sell my time to the US Military, and that really rustles some people. It's just a job, I don't have to support every action the US takes.

>>55967483
In case of our part of the planet - NATO, of course. But not the US govt alone.
>>55967476
I'm not changing the subject. Most graduates from US are fucking useless with their gender/art studies. Don't you agree?

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>it's another 'hippies pretend we live in la la land' episode

>this whole thread
top kek

>>55967530
I'm not a whore. If my boss disrespects me I'm gonna fire myself the same day.
What about you? What would you do if your CO tells you to shoot morally innocent soldiers defending their country from the invader - you? Are you gonna obey the order or go to the jail?
There are bigger and worse whores than the other ones.

>>55967630
You have a very black and white view of the world.

>>55967630
If by some insane turn of events, I am in an offensive combat scenario, I do what I signed up for, in that case shooting people. When you're getting lit up, morality takes a back seat to survival.

That said, I'm a network engineer for the Air Force, so the likelihood of that scenario is very small.

I agreed to be a "bigger whore" for 4 years for the big payout.

>>55967709
Given your training, what would you do if given a clearly illegal order?

>>55967723
Immediately report it up the chain.

I cannot follow illegal orders, and if I do I am held liable along with the NCO/Officer who issued them.

>>55967692
Care you elaborate?
Can you legally refuse to go to war with whatever next country your govt chooses?

>>55967476
Speaking of which, you didn't respond to the facts about Poland's willing participation on the Iraq invasion, to include combat operations. How do you feel about your soldiers killing those people?

>>55967752
Moral justification in war is a subjective and incredibly complicated subject.

>>55967752
If you are a legitimate conscientious objector, yes. Or you can always leave the military; it's a volunteer force.

>>55967748
Bingo. Just like every soldier, sailor, and airman. That's why people that give and obey illegal orders are prosecuted for it.

>>55967582
And in the part of the world we're discussing, that would be the UN?

>>55967709
>morality takes a back seat to survival.
Which is exactly what I'm talking about. US soldiers kills other people because they're paid to do it. They don't give a fuck about morality.
Same applies to nazis back in 1939. Would you say you can't blame them for killing millions of people because "they were just following orders"? You're in the same situation. You deserve no respect whatsoever.

>>55967830
The Nazis were prosecuted for their crimes by the UN, including the US. "Just following orders" was denied as a defense, and those doing so we're held accountable.

Just like today. Following an unlawful order is itself a crime. As is giving one.

So, yes. Following illegal orders means you're to blame for your actions. Every US service member is trained regularly on the laws of war (as defined by the UN and the Geneva convention) and is expected to follow their conscience first.

>>55967830
You said yourself that some people need to die. The idea behind the whole chain of command is that qualified people make the decision of who needs to die, and other people make it happen. How can you fault soldiers for doing something you said yourself needs be done?

Also, you can't compare the modern US military to the genocide of the Nazis. Killing civilians is very illegal, and anyone who does that is held liable due to that whole "illegal order" thing I described earlier.

>>55967794
>legitimate conscientious objector
Please define. If you'd be in the military back in 2003 when the US invaded Iraq, could you legally refuse and leave?

>>55967905
It wouldn't be as easy as quitting a job, and you'd probably lose all your benefits, but the military doesn't want to pay for someone who is effectively useless to them.

>>55967905
Yes, a lot of people did. Particularly for religious reasons. The military doesn't want people in combat if they aren't able to pull the trigger. If I recall correctly, the program was managed through the Chaplin's office to avoid undue influence by the commanders.

Or if you're a female, you could get pregnant and get an honorable discharge.

Giggity.

>>55967905
Yes, a lot of people did. Particularly for religious reasons. The military doesn't want people in combat if they aren't able to pull the trigger. If I recall correctly, the program was managed through the Chaplin's office to avoid undue influence by the commanders.

Or if you're a female, you could get pregnant and get an honorable discharge.

Giggity.

>>55967891
>unlawful
Was invading Iraq based on false evidence lawful?
If not, how does it matter if the order is lawful or not? If your government decides to kill people they'll make it legal.
>>55967899
Because they joined the military by themselves. AFAIK nobody was forcing them to do it.
>Killing civilians is very illegal
Oh really? Then what about 113,000 civilians that you killed in Iraq? Was it legal?
If not, was anybody jailed for this?

>>55967966
You might need to ask the UN that particular question. Please let me know what they tell you.

Our opinions do not influence the legality of any action.

>>55967966
>Was invading Iraq based on false evidence lawful?
Yes

Lying to congress is probably illegal though.

>>55967966
You have trouble staying on topic, don't you? I notice you swing wildly whenever you can't admit you're wrong about something.

>>55968025
>Yes
So why are we still talking about legality of your actions?
It's not about legality, it's about morality. Since you don't give a single fuck about morality then we can all agree, that you're just a bunch of murderers. Legality is not a valid excuse.

I have never seen sooooo many faggots in one spot

>>55968049
What was the original topic?

>>55968097
The original one? CaC cards. Have you noticed that you change the topic when you're wrong about something? For example, you stopped insisting that the polish military was innocent when it was pointed out to you that they willingly participated in the invasion of Iraq, sending combat soldiers to kill.

>>55967765
doesn't bother me at all, probably doesn't bother you either in your nice house with running water and decent infrastructure.

>>55968086

Quite a leap. Desperate?

>>55968141
What about your claim that Poland has never invaded another country? We're you wrong or lying?

>>55968141
Do you live in a house with running water and decent infrastructure? What's your point?

>>55968130
I wasn't aware of that.
Besides there was only 180 polish soldiers versus 250,000 american, 45,000 british and 2000 australian soldiers. Was is really worth pointing out?

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>>55968157
>180 soldiers (ONE fucking ship)
>working on logistic

>invading iraq

>>55968219
Yes. Why were they there at all? Why did your country send over people to kill in the invasion? The number is irrelevant; the fact is that your leaders decided to participate in the invasion, and your tax dollars paid for it.

Are you okay with that?

>>55968157
wait wat, i think you got me confused with the poland fag lol
>>55968178
there is none, that's the whole point, why bring this up when it doesn't affect us whatsoever in our own homes.

>>55968252
>Coalition

Yes, your country was there for the invasion. And those meager resources are very significant for a militarily weak nation.

>>55968252
it's still supporting the war effort, like you said with medics giving kids vaccines and health treatment in war torn areas. stop being a fucking hypocrite.

>>55968282
>Confused

Sorry, I'm dumb.

>>55968252
As much as we like to pretend nothing happened, we did invade Czechoslovakia back when Hitler did. But it was just to reclaim a few square kilometres of contested territory, and that Austrian-pretending-to-be-German guy was a bigger meanie, so it's not a big deal, right?

>>55968086
Morality is subjective and not a relevant topic in legal discussions

>>55968295
Exactly. Polandfag insisted they were asked to come over and do peaceful stuff. He drank the koolaid and can't admit it.

Credibility is fucked.

>>55968260
>The number is irrelevant
Of course it is. They didn't shoot a single bullet in that mission.
Yes, I am.

>>55968308
And even worse, the fucker ruined a perfectly good hairstyle for the rest of us.

>>55968359
Proof, please. I'd be interested in learning how you know so much about the polish special forces mission details.

>>55968316
Ok then, enjoy destroying the rest of the world then.
Later fellas :^)

>>55968359
You're okay with your country invading a sovereign nation, but not okay with other countries doing it?

Hypocrite.

>>55968385
Hahaha. Faggot.

>>55968392
Reality is not black and white.
Stop trying to portray it that way

>>55968385
see you in WW3 when Russia invades your ass again! :^)

>>55968392
>You're okay with your country invading a sovereign nation, but not okay with other countries doing it?
Do you honestly believe Poland takes the same responsibility for it as the US and UK?
>>55968308
If by "we invaded" you mean "our russian government did" then yes, we invaded them. Kek.
Daily reminder: poland before 1989 was occupied by russians.

>>55968440
I thought you were leaving. Still trying to defend your nation's participation in the invasion?

Okay.

Can you at least admit that your country isn't perfect? That your country was wrong? Or are you too blinded by nationalism to admit that it did wrong in your own eyes?

>>55968440
So Poland has been perfect for 17 years. Got it.

So why did you make claims about it's entire history, but now you only have 17 years to work with?

>>55968430
Don't worry, we'll save them. Again.

>>55968475
No. He's sold out to his government. It's sad to see; he's no better than Americans chanting USA USA USA at rallies.

Anyone that cNt admit that their country is capable of doing bad things is dangerous to the world.

>>55968475
>completely ignoring the fact that US funds terrorism, spies entire humanity and kills millions of people around the globe
>buhuuu your country also invaded another country, they've sent once 180 soldiers in coalition forces!
You're full of shit. Kys
PS. it's not perfect. Was is wrong?
From the perspective of my own interest, no. Was it generally wrong? Yes.

>>55968483
>17 years to work with?
>17
I can't believe it. You're this fucking stupid.

>>55968545
I love it when people focus on typos. It shows they ran out of actual arguments.

You can have that one, buddy.

>>55968483
>17 years
I see your education clearly works. Did they also teach you how to multiply and divide?

>>55968534
Okay, so... Poland was wrong, but the us is more wrong. That's your argument? Okie dokie.

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>>55968576
>17 years

>>55966389
>the world's easiest language
>can't even speak it correctly
Congratulations for calling yourself a retard.

>>55968580
Lol, good one. I fat fingered. Sorry.

You're really desperate, aren't you? You've made, what, three posts about my error? That's just reaching.

>>55968592
Yes. Is it hard to process?
So now and I think it's time you can finally admit your country has commited crimes against humanity.

>>55968604
Nice logic you got there.
>>55968613
>pretends to be intelligent
>can't do the simple math
Kek

>>55968619
So you're abandoning your first claim that Poland never participated in an invasion?

Yes, the US has done wrong. And I'm very active in advocacy to hold those that did it accountable. That's what a patriot does. They don't bury their heads in the sand until they're confronted with inarguable evidence. That's what you did.

>>55968651
Four comments about a single error! Wow, you must be really upset to latch on like that. How did I get under your skin so easily? Why are you so mad that you keep repeating yourself like an autistic child?

>>55968534
Fact: poland invaded a nation and killed people.

Conclusion: Poland did something immoral.

Good to know.

>>55968619
shit, might as well jot up the whole fucking world for ''crimes against humanity'', maybe read a history book once in a while instead of ''poland is great yes'' kiddie books.

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>>55968678
>single error
>17 years

>>55968716
I bet he's not going to do anything to hold his country accountable either. He'll get off 4chan and continue to be a loyal subject.

Meanwhile, there's a vocal movement in the us critical of our own government. This polfag will just remain silent.

I would say that polfag is immoral, by refusing to confront the immoral acts of his government.

>>55968741
Five!

Jimmies = rustled.

If you're this worked up, maybe you should take a breather? This seems way too intense for you. Are you always this quick to get upset? Luckily, I hear Poland has a decent mental health system.

>>55968757
>there's a vocal movement in the us critical of our own government
You mean Black Lives Matter? Good for you

What are you doing now about US invervention in Syria? What about constant money flow directly to ISIS? Because it's happening right now, and I don't see any protests in the US.

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>>55968786
>17 years

>>55968835
You have very little policy awareness.

>>55968857
Lol

Now it's just getting sad.

>>55968866
Before you get worked up and retarded: political.

Autocorrect.

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>>55968886
>tfw you're the world's superpower but you can't do the simple math

>>55968926
So... can I assume you're out of actual arguments now? I think you had one or two a while ago, but now you're just repeating yourself. Is that how they do things in Poland? It seems very inefficient.

>>55968835
What are you going to do now that you see that your country killed people in Iraq and willfully participated in the invasion? Are you going to do anything?

You're welcome for removing the blinders your government out on you, by the way.

>>55968942
Yeah, I'm out of arguments ATM.
I'm going to sleep now. Please don't deploy your death squads on me for criticizing your immoral foreign policy towards other countries.
Cheers

>>55968980
Lol, nite fag. It's been fun. Hope you didn't take all this shit seriously. It's just 4chan; it's not meant to be taken seriously.

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>>55968994
he probably gets all his news sources from 4chan anyways lol

>>55969092
Lol

>>55963480
Former active duty 11a, current ng 11a and civilian software developer

Also was an ocs instructor. Ama relevant

>>55963231
Google "DoD CAC Private Key Restore".

Y'all motherfuckers don't even know how certificates work the hell you doing on this board, go back to sweeping the motorpool.