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>>55930073
>tfw I will never own a comfy SGI setup

it might be kind of amusing to restore the casing or something and replace the internals with more modern components, but i worry that like most gimmicky things i would get kind of tired of it a few weeks later and then i'd be stuck with a very obnoxious reminder of that thing i spent all those hours doing that wasn't research or thesis writing.

>>55930085
>replace the internals with more modern components

please don't ruin usable machines

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>>55930073
That's my picture! Didn't hope to see it like that!

>>55930085
0/10

>>55930103
I really like the 8088 shitbox

>>55930124
Thanks

>>55930083
Oh wow that case. We still haven't reached that level in prosumer cases.

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>>55930130
Well, Apple came out with a dumpster case.

>>55930100
"usable" is a term the individual applies to it. you must have already understood that if you're restoring old computers, but your comment seems to demand that reminder.

the lowest resource task i do these days is write latex papers. we could get into a discussion about how i accomplish this, but the gist is that the workflow i use ultimately requires access to software that i don't think any retro computer could run, or even access reasonably well.

i'm sure i'd be interested in what you use retro computers for, but it's important that you appreciate that some people might not see a "usable" purpose for computers from the 80s.

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>>55930073
Can't restore for shit, but I enjoy watching the new demos and playing games.

>>55930145
They haven't degraded over time dipshit, they still run all their games and software like the did back then, nobody wants to browse Facebook or do 4k video editing on them.

>>55930140
Yeah that was pretty neat. I meant more cases for custom PC's though. There is that new NZXT mitx case with curved panels but it's a bit of an eyesore. And enormous.

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>>55930103
I put a fan into my A600 yesterday, it's amazing what a little low speed fan can do, the thing is as cool as ice.

>>55930145
Just buy a broken one and do what you want with it. Even then it might be problematic as old cases usually have shit airflow.

>>55930152
> I <3 C=

>>55930195
Was already on when I got it, felt it would be a shame to remove it.

>>55930208
Well, it fits with your C64c

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>>55930130
dumping sgi stuff

>>55930229
Damn girl, that's hot

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>>55930229

>>55930234
https://www.youtube.com/user/jpkiwigeek/videos

This guy has a few sgi videos

>>55930229
Specs?

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>>55930226
Thank you! Got a breadbin, c128 and Amiga 500 but none of them fits on the desk. Cramped battlestation

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>>55930240

>>55930245
Not my photo sadly, do a reverse search on it

SGI gear still sells for quite a bit so I can't really justify spending money on buying one yet

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>>55930262

>>55930160
i'm pretty sure i couldn't run analyses on these machines, so i lowered the bar to just being a machine for writing papers in latex, and i explained that the stuff i use now exceeds the capabilities of these machines.

i realize that people used computers in the 60s to put men on the moon, but the workflow was painful and slow. i'm not keen on the proposition of going back to that workflow or even to the workflow i had in the 90s. i like old mechanical keyboards and i like the way these machines were designed - durable, purpose-built, with a very functional aesthetic - but i wouldn't want to compile a subfile of a latex document and have time to go make coffee. i lived that era and nostalgia has only tinted my view of the past, not blinded it.

so something striking the chord of all that nostalgia without bringing back to life all the obnoxious shit that defined life in the 80s and 90s would be the best of both worlds (assuming you're actually using these devices; if you're just restoring them to make your own computer museum, then i guess fidelity is the most important thing).

>>55930184
i imagine a newer computer could be okay since even fairly competent machines barely require very active airflow. if you consider that our smartphones (which are entirely passively cooled) are more powerful than the computer i had in 1995, you could probably throw a raspberry pi or something into the box, figure out wiring, and hook it up to the CRT (or if it's busted and you can't replace it, maybe put an LCD in there, but that would break the nostalgia for me).

but again, at some point i imagine my satisfaction with the project would subside and i'd be left with this obnoxiously large desktop that i use practically for novelty. i would have to be very, very careful to choose something to restore that, when i got tired of using it, would still look distinguished just sitting there.

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>Bad Apple

>>55930261
That's nice! Scram a few more desks into your room like a maniac, that's what I did, kek.

>>55930292
>talking about bad apple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsDy-4L6-tQ

I would. but the room barley fits my bed and the desk. Filled with games and stuff too.

>>55930333
Oh reah, I have seen all the Bad Apple demos...

>I would. but the room barley fits my bed and the desk. Filled with games and stuff too.
Yeah, space is always a problem when collecting stuff

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>>55930358
>collecting
More like hoarding

>>55930366
Kek, I live in my own house so I don't have a problem with hoarding old tech, got boxes full of shit.

>>55930371
Heh I've been cleansing my room for a month and still find crap I haven't used yet.

>>55930286
>so something striking the chord of all that nostalgia without bringing back to life all the obnoxious shit that defined life in the 80s and 90s would be the best of both worlds

Dunno, the real thing feels always better, emulators are even more headache than real hardware.

I could also take my new Land Rover to the racetrack, but it would not be the same as my old BMW coupe, the steering, suspension, almost inaudible engines sounds, the feeling is gone, even if it's a faster and more efficient car, it's just a car for driving, while the BMW coupe wasn't a car for everyone back then, like every computer is now, the raw connection between me and feeling the hardware is gone.

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>>55930333
>>55930292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pAeWf3NPNU

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>>55930073

>>55930678
Hey dude! How's the telnet server?!

>>55930721

Hey, still going, just had an awful week at work, been absolutely knackered.

>>55930738
Ouch, well Godspeed

>>55930272
Widescreen? How old is this?

>>55930073
bumping interesting thread

>>55930152
>Cup
>Keyboard
You're Swedish

>>55930073
holy shit where did you buy a fallout4 terminal?

>>55931391
That joke is so fucking old it's not even funny anymore...

>>55931377
Is that your hobby or something?

>>55931402
it's a really slow day at work i'm sorry

haven't been on /g/ in a minute

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>>55931377
Well börk börk you know my secret!

>>55931435
>it's a really slow day at work i'm sorry
Np

>haven't been on /g/ in a minute
What?

>>55931443
That's a really good disguise, wow, took me a while to notice that it's not a deer, the glasses gave it away!

>>55931477
Demmit it's a moose hät!

>>55930229
My bro's workplace had SGI workstations in that era, and I was so fucking jealous even back then, when my rig was a shitty beige box.

>>55931434
Man, I really want a NeXT computer, more than an SGI.

Are there any good resources on 80s/90s PC builds? I usually keep my old crap, but most of my 90s-era computer stuff is long gone, and what's left doesn't work. Do I have to stalk shitty garage sales and salvation army stores to get parts nowadays?

>>55932163
>Do I have to stalk shitty garage sales and salvation army stores to get parts nowadays?
Want them cheap? Yes.

Local online ads are the place where I get my stuff from, there's no competition of retro collectors or resellers where I live.
Else you just have to lurk thrift stores, garage sales and if you don't care about money, eBay or retro forums.

>>55930678
You have that IBM, then a A1200 and a C64 at work, right? Anything more awesome?

>>55932981

SGI Indy in storage, a Vextrex, ZX Spectrum+, 3 Toshiba Libretto UMPC's and a stack of ThinkPads.

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im really glad i started these retro threads

>>55933147
>stack of ThinkPads
Saying it like it's the most casual thing in the world

>>55933208
Retro threads have been on /vr/ and /g/ for years?

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>>55933219

;^)

>>55930229
I wish I had an O2. Someone on Nekochan was selling a decent one for 140 bucks, but he was in California.

>>55933320
Sexy

>>55931434
Is that a default SGI wallpaper or something? I keep seeing it, pretty sure I used it on my MacBook.

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>>55933355

Useless hobby. Why even bother.

>>55933385
>dat IBM datacenter wallpaper

Someone locally was selling the same unit (Pentium with CD rom) but I missed it.

>>55930245
R10000/R12000, going to guess full 1GB of RAM, video capture card. That's a fairly high end machine.

>>55930073
70's and 80's keyboards are the fucking best

>>55933400
It's probably one of the more useful hobbies, what are you talking about? This isn't scrapbooking.

>>55933416
Yeah, looked it up already. Amazing machines for the time.

>>55933418
Oh yeah, Godly to type on.

>>55933482
Eh, they were the low end. They replaced the Indy. Now the Octane2, that was a beast.

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>>55930678
Nice Pic. I didn't notice the mouse till now. Is it like pic related?

>>55933430
Agree

>>55933870
Man that's sexy, I just want to violate it

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>>55933870

This.

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>>55934452

Copy protection dongle that plugs into a serial/parallel port?

>>55934583
Warm, but nothing to do with copy protection.

>>55934452
SCSI Terminator.

>>55934998
Cold, nothing to do with SCSI, first guess had the port right.

>>55934452
isn't that just a male DB-25 connector?

>>55935184
>male DB-25 connector
Yes, but more than just a connector

>>55934452
>TIP: It has lots of same type components inside, just they have different properties

>>55935376
dac

>>55935401
like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covox_Speech_Thing

>>55935401
>>55935432

>DING DING DING DING DING
Here are your shekels!

Yeah, a self made resistor ladder DAC.

>>55935451
>>55934452
I can actually play MOD files on a 4.7MHz 8088 at 7kHz with it

>>55930152
Whats the thing under the right monitor?

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>>55935621
Amiga mods had 4 8-bit channels, right?
Can you play mods of the same 'complexity'? How does the sound quality compare to an amiga? What tolerance are the resistors? Is it just the ladder or do you have filtering/amplification?

>>55933238
There was a gap though. They only recently became a constant fixture again with the current OP, presumably from that one thread where some dude was retrobriting his old hardware.

>>55935736
Yes, Amiga mods are 4 channel and 8-bit, that's what the 8088 can play too, max 4 channels.
Complexity? As long as they have 4 channels at 8-bits they will play fine. Quality is way worse at 7kHZ then Amiga at 8kHz, partly probably because I didn't fine check the resistors, the tolerance is 15K and 7.5K resistors. No amplification or filtering, just a 3.5mm jack to the end of the ladder.

>>55935763
Oh yeah, I remember that thread

>>55935736
>>55935803
Forgot to add, the only other limitation is that they have to be less than 450KB in file size, because I only have 512KB of RAM.

>>55933498
Fuels weren't really low-end, but they weren't the greatest. SGI was too busy riding the Itanium hype train straight to hell to bother with anything further than rehashing the R10K over and over again for ten years straight, VPro supposedly was pretty lackluster as well.

>>55933384
Standard on every version of IRIX since at least 5.3

>>55930286
Nobody is restoring these to use as their main computers my dude, they're repairing it for trips back to the past or very specific tasks, mostly for playing old games or play with old software tho.

Other actually productive uses might be to compose chip-tune music. Or maybe someone prefers the way a reallly old version of some program.

>>55936138
10 internets for you kind sir

>>55935720
The C64 game controller or the diskettes?

>>55934609

Loopback plug?

>>55935720
That would be a small pile of magic cards! I buy a booster pack every now and then.

>>55936332
See
>>55935451

>>55930286
don't really disagree with your overall point, but the thing is that just because you don't personally enjoy it doesn't mean you should ruin it for somebody else who would love that hardware just the way it is, that stuff isn't getting any less rare as time goes on, especially the most revered (and mod-targeted) stuff that few people bought in the first place because it was usually damn expensive

plus, mods are kind of shit in general, even if you put forward the effort to do it right, old and new tech clash and it loses a lot of the magic, it's not just the case or the logo that makes a lot of this shit cool, it's the whole package, the historical context, the engineering, the way they beautifully integrated everything together and built it all for a purpose

>you could probably throw a raspberry pi or something into the box
it may not be the subject or really all that related to the discussion, but seriously, the pi is absolute garbage, especially earlier iterations that are miles slower than actual 1995 hardware for jobs that don't take advantage of their hardware co-processors

>>55936372

Oh crap...didn't see that post.

>>55936045
I was talking about the O2. The Fuel was a mid range system, but was much closer to a standard ATX PC.

>>55936138
This. There are some pieces of software that just have nothing comparable on anything else.

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I use my SGI Fuel every day.

>>55936586
For some reason I thought that guy quoted the Fuel post, whoops.

Hell, O2s were still pretty nice though with UMA, at least the higher-end configurations. Still need to get my hands on one.

>>55936606
Do anything fun with it? Always wondered if they were still dailyable, there seem to be enough guys on Nekochan using them productively.

>>55936606
I would kill for one of these cases rebuilt to take EATX motherboards.

>>55930085
If you really think about it all time is wasted

Damnit now i wanna dig out my o2 from storage

>>55936771
Can always put up a wanted posting on Nekochan for a broken one, please for the love of fuck don't encourage gutting working ones though. Fuels are some of the nicest IRIX boxes you can acquire on something of a budget, and with a reasonable physical/power consumption footprint.

>Amiga 600 (/Motorola 68000 cpu)
>old
>ever

>>55936944
>sub-10 MHz CPU based on tech old enough to run for president

Still using my hp9000 735 (which was dumbed to me by my then employer in 95 or 96) as a daily driver.
Unfortunately, HP have ceased all support for them now and Itanium POS workstations are going follow soon.

I quess i need to start fixing the gpl'd cde (on linux) on my own. Especially on amd64 it works very poorly.

>>55936068
Huh, it wasn't rendered like that. Weird.

>>55936913
How much did you pay for your Fuel? I'm trying to find one of those and O2. O2s are proving difficult, but I've wanted one on my desk since I saw one in a hospital in 2005.

>>55936671
I play around with Maya or Alias. For daily stuff I listen to music, watch videos, write in latex, and irc chat. If I need to do something that requires modern computing, I'll vnc or ssh to my Mac. It's no different than the other guys with their souped up octo-core rigs running only terminals and tiling window managers. Except IRIX is sexy af and I like staring at this box all day ;)

>>55936606
I've only seen one Fuel mod and looks like the guy just took the front face and stuck it to a PC case. Still looks good though.

http://cdn.overclock.net/e/ee/500x424px-LL-ee434eab_IMG_4229.jpeg

>>55937041
>hp9000
>700 series

Oh shit nigga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLTh4uVJduI

P O W E R
S H I F T

>>55937090
Don't have a Fuel myself, though I want one.

Seems $300-$500 is an expected going rate on the internet from what little I've looked into it since I can't really justify the expense at the moment.

>>55937091
Eugh, I've seen that before, can't stand it. The outlandish but still professional and sleek appearance of the Fuel was what made it good, that just looks like sub-$100 newegg fodder. Hope he didn't use a nice working one for it.

>>55937094
Goddamn, system endorsed by negro. In to thrash it goes then.

>>55937041
>daily driver
Do you just mostly shitpost/wiki surf and work with text, or was oldschool PA-RISC just that damn good?

I guess old *nix gear was still pretty ahead of its time though, I could probably use my base-spec teal Indigo2 productively if I could get a hold of some useful commercial software for it.

>>55937091
How do you watch videos?

How does VNC/SSH to the Mac work? Screenshots? Sounds really cool and would make buying an SGI more justifiable.

>>55937126
>Seems $300-$500 is an expected going rate on the internet from what little I've looked into it since I can't really justify the expense at the moment.
I can't even find a Fuel on eBay and the O2s on eBay are overpriced.

>>55937275
They come up occasionally, always check Nekochan too, they sell shit very cheap if you're willing to go through the inconvenience of it.

>>55930578
The demoscene will never cease to amaze me.

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>>55937253
The guys at nekochan.net have a freeware distribution called nekoware. They ported an older mplayer and I use that for for DIVX / XVID videos.

TightVNC is also in nekoware and that's how I VNC to my Mac. A recent version of IRIX (6.5.22+ I think) comes with SSH.

If you're comfortable and want to learn a different flavor of UNIX and are ok with what nekoware offers, having and SGI can be fun. Just don't expect it to play h264 or browse modern websites out of the box!

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Here is my baby, had to dig her out of storage

>>55937645
There are working SSH tardists for older versions too, when I was taking my old 5.3 boxes out for a spin I was regularly X forwarding browsers/office suites from my Slowlaris host on them since there obviously isn't much for either of those on IRIX going that far back.

>>55937666
Diggin' it, what do you have in it?

>>55937750
IRIX can do X over SSH?

>>55937645
VNC speed is acceptable, too? Sounds nice. I'll have to give it a go on some of my old *nix gear.

>>55937645
Awesome, thanks man.

>>55937750

200 MHz R5000 cpu, dont remember how much ram, 256 mb i think. been a while since i booted it.

What's the general consensus on 95~ era machines?

I picked up an old Vigled Genie PCI p5/90 from the Uni's tech bins (visit every couple of weeks, always worth a visit). Haven't got a spare serial mouse about, so I can't really use it yet, but it boots fine into Win95.

>>55937911

its a nice piece of computer history, take care of it

>tfw my parents sold basically all of our ancient electronics against my will.
>tfw the computer my uncle built for me back in 98 or so is gone.
>tfw I wasn't old or smart enough to know what components were on it
>tfw I don't think my uncle remembers since he worked on a lot of stuff back then
>tfw I will never use my first computer again

;_;

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>>55937911
>Vigled
Viglen*.

>>55937935
I intend to, 80s to 90s computer history fascinates me.

>>55937778
IRIX *can* do X over SSH but it's slow, especially with GTK2/GTK3 apps. Forwarding Firefox from linux to a Fuel feels like dialup T__T

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>>55937778
Yup. Took me forever to find this damn screenshot I took a while ago, just installed all the needed packages and it was ready to go.

Don't web surf from it much though, the Slowlaris host is a toaster and so is my IRIX hardware. Good enough for spreadsheets and word processing, however.

>>55937911
>>55938055
Pretty nice box, looks early-ish too, might even have been a flagship offering. Open it up and check out the component date codes if you're feeling autistic, I find it's always cool to know little things like that.

1994-1995 in general is a pretty good time for mainstream computing, with the Pentium (and Pentium Pro) finally edging x86 into the performance computing arena, Windows getting a UI that isn't absolute shit, PCI becoming mainstream and a whole slew of other things that makes me personally consider it a good cut off date when you're looking for something you can put to some use as much as play around with.

>>55938087
Is it? I always figured it was the shitty hardware I was doing it with, though Firefox seems slow as shit over X no matter what platform you're using.

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>>55937807
R5Ks always sounded pretty cool with their 3D extensions, I think those things even rape the R10K O2s in some situations because the R10K modules were dirty hacks.

Either way, cool shit. Have you seen all the IRIX shit that's been put up on the Internet Archive now? Might be fun to get it running again and give some of those Hot Mix CDs a spin.

https://archive.org/search.php?query=SGI&and[]=mediatype%3A%22software%22

>>55938303
I've been downloading those. I'm surprised nekochan doesn't have their own repository. Are they actually afraid of "SGI" coming after them for decades old software?

>>55937994
I remember I had a dream I had my first computer back. I played Duke Nukem 2. Great game.

>>55938608
Rackable has pretty much admitted they don't give a shit about IRIX disk sets out in the wild, hell they'll give you 6.5.22 for free without a support contract.

Other vendors like Avid, Oracle and the like whose products are discussed on the site are another story, however. I think they blow the threat out of proportion, but I guess if they were hands-off about it someone would eventually get pissed off. Some members will help point you in the right direction for software, but honestly I find the greybeards pretty insufferable and can't steel myself long enough to suck their dicks to get access to commercial stuff.

>>55934452
printer port plug?

>>55938830
>>55935451

>>55938709
I know exactly what you mean. There's been helpful members who contacted me privately off the forums. But once in a while someone asks about licenses and some guys just tell them they're SOL. I like the community and want it to grow even more but the software hoarders (who probably pirated them anyway) piss me off.

>>55934452
covox speech thing clone most probably
made a few myself, some like that and some with proper dac chips and stereo sound

>>55936913
>please for the love of fuck don't encourage gutting working ones though

Of course. Gutting working SGI should be a crime.

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>>55939899
>But once in a while someone asks about licenses and some guys just tell them they're SOL.
God damn this is the shit I hate the most.

>want to start contributing to the community while learning more for when I eventually can get my hands on some good IRIX hardware
>go to the Sun subsection in the meantime because it's where most of my limited knowledge of *nix space is focused
>some guy asking about running a SunPCi on his Ultra 30 C3D
>all the replies are basically "get a support contract from Jewacle lol you fucking faggot eat a dick"
>try to point the guy in the right direction by giving him the file names of the software packages he needs and link a couple Creator3D compatibility patches in public university archives
>deleted within 5 minutes
>???
>PM from the mod: "we don't allow unofficial sources here sorry"
>exchange some PMs with the guy to get him on his feet, log out
>never log in again

I mean, I know Oracle's lawyer armada can be a little intimidating, but fucking really?

>>55940155
Wow, just wow

>>55930073
Nice A600. Got your Vampire yet?

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>>55937911
I have a flagship model HP Pavilion.
Top of the line early 1996.
200mhz Pentium
64mb ram
ATI 3D Xpression
2x 4gb hdds
Windows 95

Trying to find the original restore disk is a bitch but i managed to find the drivers online. I still want to find the original disk though. HP packaged these with some unique software.

>>55940155
Nekochan definitely seems hella uptight. I wonder if there's somewhere better for SGI stuff, though it seems to be dying out.

>>55930073
Hear about the Alto emulator LCM wrote?
Cool shit (not as cool as restoring vintage systems, but still cool)

http://www.livingcomputermuseum.org/Online-Systems/Press.aspx

>>55940155
>>55940702

>site is a mixture of anime and niche tech
>expecting it to be anything but extreme levels of autism

>>55940844
I found a thread explaining what the Nekochan name meant and I couldn't even follow the autism.

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reposting for karma

>>55938698
I still have my original copy of Carnivores, which i'm fairly sure was my first ever PC game, or at least the first one I can remember. Aside from that weird capture the flag game that came packed with Windows 98.

>>55941038
I have one of those too, including the diskette drive, but the famicom only displays a white screen when I turn it on so it's been collecting dust for 6 years.

I feel bad about it.

>>55941090
look for an AV Famicom, they are better than the original model

>>55941207
It is! it has an AV out, and it apparently failed I guess, can't repair it myself and don't have anywhere to take it to get repaired so it's just sitting there.

>>55941264
>can't repair it myself
Not with that attitude.

>>55930171
do you have that new FPGA Accelerator too? That shit's mind blowing

>>55941303
I-I checked the insides already, w-whatever it is, it's more than I know how to do ;_; I don't know anything about circuitry.

I've never even soldered a CPU..

>>55941335
Have you asked about it in /vr/'s repair general?
Also check the wiki:
http://www.gametechwiki.com/w/index.php/Main_Page

>>55930073
Put a Ras pi in th@ old junk PC. Kek

>>55936813
wow really makes you think

>>55941584
Wonder which one boots faster?

>>55941495
I haven't, I should probably give it a shot. it's been a few years since I last tried to repair it, maybe if I can manage to do so I can give the poor thing to someone who will appreciate it better than I can.

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I kind of want to unironically build a museum around a bunch of old big iron and use them to teach programming courses or something.

It just sounds exciting.

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Platinum IIe stuffed with a ton of goodies, and that SPARC IPX that needs BSD reloaded on it

>>55941307
Just curious, what can you even do with an FPGA in a machine that old?

>>55940702
Don't really think there are any alternatives, that's what makes it so maddening. There's r/SiliconGraphics (yeah, whatever) but it's dead as mutton.

>>55943316
Implement faster hardware for it than you could get using NOS chips.

>>55939899
Yeah

>>55930145
Let me help you out there:
' "useable" is a subjective term.'
Remember, more words != smarter.

>>55941307
Vampire? Not yet, on the waiting list, one man is building and selling them.

>>55943316
>>55943345
The Vampire is like a 500MHz 68060, also adds AGA to the 600, they are working on the core and it's getting faster with every version.

>>55930229
has anyone ever shown the first sgi? i've only seen some pictures and the demo reel but it's like if none existed, almost like the pixar machines

>>55940223
See
>>55943459

>>55937645
So it's a 600MHz machine with 1GB of memory and still can't browse 4chan on it's own? I have sub 100MHz machines that browse 4chan fine...

>>55943227
Nice! Guts of Platinum IIe pls?

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>>55941584
>>55941600
Already working on it, Pi on a ISA card with a serial controller, can telnet into the Pi easily without needing anything extra.

>>55933385
why don't they make sexy things like that anymore!

>>55944021
Been wanting to do something like this. Keep us updated because I want to see how yours turns out.

>>55944458
Would be awesome for something like the 4chan BBS telnet server one anon is working on.

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>tfw you have a 486 motherboard but no case to put it in

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>>55944561
>tfw you have a 486 motherboard and case to put it in, but the motherboard has faulty memory

>>55943345
/r/SiliconGraphics would probably be just as ridiculous, knowing some subreddits. Someone should host something on an O3k.
>>55943855
The available browsers are old af, so they don't play that nicely with modern websites.

>>55944718
>The available browsers are old af, so they don't play that nicely with modern websites.,
why doesn't anyone port something newer? its easy af nowadays

>>55944742
I don't know, incompatibilities with the ancient operating system perhaps? Missing development kits?

All I know is the latest browser on IRIX is like Firefox 2 or 3.

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>>55938159
>if you're feeling autistic
Popped it open, the motherboard says it's an Intel 636382-001. I'm failing to find specs online, I think I'm going to have to boot into it and find the specs through the software. Better head over to ebay and find a mouse..

Looking at the rest of it, we have a Diamond Multimedia card, although I no idea which, only model number looking thing I've found is IH2995, from 1994 (a good year). Also got a D-Link network card, again anything I throw into google isn't returning anything useful. Bit of an enigma at the mo sadly.

>>55930073
I loved throwing out all this shit when I had it. FW900, SGI 21inch montor, Indigo's Intergraph workstations, Onyx boxes...had em all, mostly for free(worked for Sierra On-line back in the day)....tossed em all. Better, newer tech was awaiting. I should have kept it all and could have sold it. Did not even think retro collectors would be a thing.

>>55944893
That's a nice shitbox!

>>55945005
Topkek, too bad

>>55945005
very cool anon, we used to love kings/space quest /larry series!

>>55943459
Oh, shit, that's cool. Could you theoretically make a 486+487 that's clocked up to like, 1 GHz with an FPGA? Would it use less power than a real 486?

>>55945144
Yup, FPGAs are only limited by the number of gates and your skills of programming those gates.

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>>55945163
Okay, I'm definitely going to have to learn how to make one of these. EEEPC keyboard and a long enough phone screen should do the trick, right?

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>>55945254
Just get a programmable FPGA board, there are cores that will already run on it out of the box and you can start learning to make a core yourself.
Latter you can just get an eeePC and rip the guts out and replace it with the FPGA board, with some skill and knowhow wire them up.

>>55945322
That's really damn cool.

If you made an efficient core (something like an up-clocked 8088?) with good power management, would it use a lot less power than, say, an Atom?

>>55945092
Yeah it was the funnest place to work. The Williams were cool folk. A golden era for sure. Then Vivendi bought us up. I went to Atari once they decided to move shop down to Cali.

We would get off work at 4:30, then almost everyone would stay till 11pm-12am playing games on the network or doing crash play testing for game credits and free food. I was a tester on HL1(Gooseman sent us His CS mod to try out..we fucking played that shit for hours a nd months on end. Was great taking advantage of the T1 line we had. This was dial up days man. Was the only time we could throw massive shit at our bosses as hierarchy did not exist after hours. We would just gang rape those guys. No grudges held next day. Was awesome times man.

>>55945365
Yeah, the FPGA won't even need a heatsink because of it's low power usage.
I also think I've heard about 8088 softcores already.

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>>55945005
sure you did, SGI shitboxes even costed shitloads back then, even ones that were 6 years old went for half the price
also there was no more Sierra "On-line" even when the FW900 came out, obviously you used it for some years too, no way you worked there when you threw out the monitor

2/10

>>55945529
You could get old SGIs for nothing back in the late 90s/early 2000s. If they had a lot of old ones they wanted to get rid of they would have gone to a recycler, though, not the trash.

>>55944561
kek

>>55945529
Well gee dude. Not sure how to take you telling me that the yrs I worked I did not. I guess I will just assign you to the doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about pile. I was at Sierra/Vivendi from 97-2004. I was at Atari from 2005 to 2008 and then moved out of gaming to business applications..

Think what you want man. I lived it. You telling me I did not means nothing. We made out with piles of good shit because that was perk of working there...free shit. I was given 2 Intergraph workstations, they cost 25k new. They were 3yrs old when I got em. It was a big company, dot com boom era, money was not tight and upgrades left a lot of shit around for the taking, and it helped if you knew the right people. I did. I did not know I needed to put a chronological timeline cross referenced to hardware availability and pricing for you. Point was, I got a ton of nice free shit that eventually found a home in a dumpster. And today a lot of it seems collectible to some.

A pointless post I know, but I am up, so fig why not reply.

>>55941038
>Nice, too bad you actually don't own one.

>>55945005
>>55946069
Not him, but then why the fuck do you come into this thread talking shit about old hardware and not contributing anything?
Seriously makes you seem more like a 19 year old then someone with a history in Sierra and Atari.

>>55945092
hey I'm at the (very early stage) of planning a youtube channel which will have an irregular feature about old times in the industry, would you mind emailing me if you'd be interested in being interviewed in the future? [email protected]

I used to work in games retail in the mid 80s- late 90s, one stint was for europe's biggest games distributor and we used to get huge volumes of Sierra stuff and sell series in packed together sets, along with the tip books, also for Lucasarts we'd do these great pack in deals, I used to be able to request a shipping box every now and again so it was a great time when we got Sierra stuff in! Would love to hear more from your time, if you'd be at all interested .

>>55946493
>Not him, but then why the fuck do you come into this thread talking shit about old hardware and not contributing anything?

Not that anon but from what I understand he's regretting throwing away all of that hardware - at the time it was old, commodity junk that people seemingly didn't want.

Benefit of hindsight.

>>55946680
>I loved throwing out all this shit when I had it.

>loves throwing away hardware
>only regrets it because he could have sold it for big bucks for collectors (most hated people in the actual retro community being collectors and resellers)
>comes shitposts in retro thread

Wonder why these threads go to shit at a very specific time each day.

>>55946493
To piss off faggots like you, now go suck a dick.

>>55946776
0/10

>>55930073
Bumping for interest

>>55937666
What snus is that?

Pluss nice trips.

>>55947088
Kek, that's probably the most interesting thing about the picture

>>55947108
yeah ;-;

>>55947088
Only if the camera was better, you could read the barcode

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>>55947197
Yeah ist just about so you can see it.

>>55947220
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE
ENHANCE

>>55947108
kys

>>55947275
>I'm too autistic to get a joke

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I just bought a Compaq Contura 430C for 30€ with power adapter and some floppies (configuration floppy, etc), it's in very nice condition.
I'm quite happy about it, I used to own a Compaq Armada what looked exactly like that but instead of a 486DX it had a Pentium CPU.

>pics not the same unit, my unit is still being shipped

>>55947452
It also comes with the official Compaq briefcase

>>55947666
Neat

>>55947695
Yeah, I also purchased a 16MB memory expansion for it.

>>55947741
What are you planning on doing with it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIy__NX9SvQ
Anyone know of a store like this in Michigan? Also what would I search for to find one

>>55947817
Stick a PCMCIA Sound Blaster and WiFi PCMCIA card in it, probably multi boot DOS, Wind95 and Linux.
My desktop 486 machine broke a while ago, this is a perfect replacement machine for those old DOS games.

>>55947903
I can't watch this...I'm so sad I don't have access to it...

We used to have shops like that 10 years ago, but all are closed now, there used to be everything for sale there, 8 to 64 bit.

>>55947903
>stack of Apple IIgs'es for $25 a piece
Bhahaha, bye, gonna go hang myself

Question for you people.
What do you do with the stuff you collect?

My uncle gave me his old PS/2 and I have no idea what to do with it, other than just a display piece...

>>55948110
See
>>55936138
>>55930160

>>55948110
Play Metal Gear you fucking mong
or alternatively give it to me so I can play Metal Gear

>>55948247
Kek

>>55948247
>Metal gear
>PS/2
>>>>/v/

>>55948304
>Metal Gear
>MS-DOS release 1990
I don't see the problem here?

>>55948331
Our local vermin is thinking of the PlayStation

>>55948391
I know, but if he had any brains he'd excuse himself by saying he meant the DOS version, kek

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>>55930073
>tfw will never own an A4000

>>55948434
4000T's are pretty cheap and common...

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This isn't mine, but I thought you guys might enjoy it.

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>>55948517
Also, this.

>>55948517
>>55948532
>FAP FAP FAP FAP

>>55948532
you have no idea how much i want one of those

i'd pretty much just use it as a ssh terminal

>>55948532
Holy shit I want one! This would be so sweet! Is there anywhere I can still get one of those? I mean it's made with real sugar! It must be amazing!

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Just finished setting this up.
>486DX 33mhz
>16MB Ram
>1.2 GB
>Acer Magic S20
>SCSI CD Drive
>Windows for Workgroups 3.11
Rescued it from a recycling center. Added the sound card, SCSI, operating system, and hard drive. What do ya think?

>>55948716
Nice find! Digging the crappy speakers to amplify the old computer effect, so to speak.

You going to get a colour CRT?

>>55948949
Thanks. The video card outputs black and white video on some startups and color on others, not sure why.

>>55948716
Neat! 486'es give me a warm wuzzy feeling.
What else will you do with it? Any other plans? Upgrades?

>>55948991
Check DIP switches?

>>55948991
Also get contact cleaner and clean the card socket and connectors!

>>55944561
Place it in a box

>>55944561
>>55949126

You know people are doing these new boards in old cases?
Do the opposite! Get a kickass new PC case and put the 486 in it!

>>55949009
What do you think I should do with it?

>>55949315
Did you already add an ethernet NIC? Useful for transferring data over the network. Also fix the video card!

>>55943197
I'd come visit your museum!

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>>55947088
>>55947108
>>55947130

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B6da_Lacket

>>55949977
Not again, a swedfag! Why so many sweds in retro threads always?

>>55949999

Im Norwegian so i cant really help you

>>55950040
do you work or you just live off the money your rich amazing country pays you?

>>55950063

I work in IT

>>55950040
would you consider selling the SGI and for how much?

>>55944893
The chipset's got early-mid 1995 date codes, then I noticed the July '95 date on the power supply, pretty good. Wasn't the absolute highest-end shit you could get since the Pentium 133 was already selling by then but it's a pretty top-end DOS system nonetheless.

>>55938303
I love such CPU boards

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Here's my old Amiga 1000.
Haven't checked if it works yet, though because I can't find the fucking power cable anywhere.
Ignore the /v/ shit.

>>55950464
That's a pretty piece of history anon, take good care of it.

>>55950464
When will you check?

>>55950675
When I find the power cable or finally decide to buy one online.

>>55948471
Even if Amiga stuff is still common as hell (especially in Yurop where it was rivaling C64 sales and outselling every game console in in that period) everybody has decided to mark up the shit out of them unfortunately. It's even worse in the US where they were never all that popular.

>>55948716
I have a Leading Edge machine like that too, except it's got a Cyrix 486SLC (basically souped up 386DX) and I also got it from a recycling center. I stuffed a SB16 in there and I use it for DOS stuff.

>>55950689
The power supply is internal, all you need is a standard 3-prong triangle plug power cable like basically any modern computer uses. I'm sure you have one laying around.

>>55950839
Well fuck me sideways, I must be retarded. I guess I didn't remember that the plug is recessed under all the other ports on hte back of hte computer. Well shit, I'm gonna test it right now.

>>55950782
>Even if Amiga stuff is still common as hell (especially in Yurop where it was rivaling C64 sales and outselling every game console in in that period) everybody has decided to mark up the shit out of them unfortunately. It's even worse in the US where they were never all that popular.

Plenty of people in Yurop who have no idea about the system and sell them for cheap, just have to be lucky.

>>55950877
PICS!

>>55950839
>>55950877
kek

>>55950464
Give your A1000 a hug from me.

>>55950839
The connector is called IEC C13.

>>55950896
Well, the power light comes on and the TV picks up a signal. So it works to some extent. I don't have any software for it, though.

>>55951238
Sadly most people don't know it, it would just confuse them.

>>55951306
The 1000 needs first to boot a ROM off a floppy, if you don't have that you can't even run software!

It's also impossible to write Amiga floppies with a standard PC drive.

>>55951351
That's what I mean by "software" I don't have any floppies for it.

>>55951403
Kryoflux would be one way to write Amiga floppies on PC.
You would probably be better of with a floppy drive emulator thought what can mount images from USB stick.

>>55951416
Nah, I like the floppies. I miss 'em. The only floppies I still have are for an old piano I have.
Are their versions of Amiga OS that wont work on the 1000?

>>55951507
Then you have to write the floppies yourself or find someone to write them for you.

What version of AmigaOS you can run depends on the ROM, the Amiga 1000 ROM is only 256KB, so out of the box you can only load Kickstart 1.3 and Workbench 1.3.

You have to Google for more information because I lack knowledge about the Amiga 1000.
With expansions it could easily run up to 3.1 or even 3.9, but I don't know much about Amiga 1000's accelerators or how common they are or if they make any new ones.

>>55931434
Now see, why can't modern ultracompact PCs be designed like that NeXT box? I wish designs meant to sit underneath a display would make a comeback.

>>55951588
Well, I've got an old friend that hung onto all of his old computer shit. I'll see him next week and ask him if I can take a gander at his wall of floppies. If I see a 1.3 or earlier kickstart, I'll buy 'em off him. If that works, then I'll think about messing with it. For now, all I know is that it turns on and gives a video signal. That's not much. Once I know it's working a bit better, I'll put more time/money into it.

>>55951605
Yeah, somehow people forget how to make those.

>>55951605
Agreed. Wonder why that stopped.

>>55951629
Great idea, good luck!

It's also really easy to write Amiga floppy images with another Amiga.

>>55951633
>>55951644
Hivemind

>>55950464
very sexy anon!

>>55951633
>>55951644
It's so weird. Right now it's easier than ever to make desktop form factor cases thanks to powerful mobile hardware, and people aren't going to be putting 30lb+ CRTs on top of them. My 27" IPS monitor weighs ~17.5lbs which is probably heavier than average because your if your typical consumer is buying an external monitor he's probably buying something in the 20-23" range.

Is it maybe because it's harder to make a "sexy" looking desktop case?

>>55951815
They do however make those small form factor PCs that you can screw onto your monitors back.

But dunno why they can't come up with a good design anymore... I did have a few modern flat pizza box form factor PC's, like that Amiga 1000 or NeXT, quite thin, but those didn't have any upgrade options, Core 2 Duo era machines, didn't look good either, just blank with USB ports and two switches, not that retro kind of nice blank either.

>>55951862
Well one of the problems is the CPU cooling is no longer passive, as it was back in the ol' days.

I got a Q1900-ITX that is cooled passively I use for my home server. I could make a case like that. It'd be thin enough. Might make it a future project.

>>55951992
how can you use itx for a server? even matx sucks for that.

>>55951815
>Writing about 'IPS monitor' (in other words: not knowing what he is talking about)
>Writing about typical consumer

>>55951992
You could easily have a low profile cooling solution, today. Even low TDP chips are more than powerful enough for anything you could want to do.
>>55952067
What? No it doesn't.

>>55952067
It's just a home server. It's a NAS and media streamer. It works very well, and a low-power footprint.

>>55952098
It's a 27" Asus monitor using a 2560x1440 Samsung PLS (basically IPS) panel, but writing that all out is autistic unless specifically discussing said monitor, so I didn't do do that. My intent was to indicate that it wasn't the typical $99 TN panel garbage that most people are using.

>>55930073
cool speakers

>>55952105
how many hdds do you have? havent seen any itx/matx boards with more than 4 sata ports.

>>55952337
not that guy but there's always PCI-E SATA cards. If space is an issue use a riser

>>55952337
Just two, mirrored, 3TB each. I don't horde a collection of animu, just music and a few movies, so it suits me perfectly.

>>55951351
It's not impossible, but last I checked you need 2 drives or something.

>>55952337
Since I've been meaning to make a compact storage build, dumping my list:

ASRock C2750D4I
ASRock C2550D4I
SuperMicro A1SAI-2550F
SuperMicro A1SAi-2750F
ASRock C236 WSI
ASRock FM2A88X
ASRock E3C236D4U

Obviously, those are made for server purposes. There might be cheaper ones, I'm also looking for ECC support.

>>55951605
>>55951633
>>55951644
It's inefficient design, the reason things like the slabs/pizza boxes were the way they were is because it was more effectively using space your monitor was already taking up anyway, that isn't the case nowadays when your monitor has easily the smallest footprint of your major peripherals besides maybe your mouse+pad.

>>55930828
It's Pentium 3 era, the widescreen is pretty good actually (I don't remember if it needed a special plug though). They were ahead of their time.

>>55952583
ok. i may have to get a hdd container some day because consumer cases dont usually have room for many hdds. was looking for some but they all need optical/fiber cables to connect and that would get expensive

In terms of usability r-12k 400mhz is minimum what you should use for web browsing. Fuel performance starts to be fast enough for every day usability.

I had O2 and Octane but sold them away. Really nice stuff. I miss them.

>>55953315
That's not like the first widescreen monitor or anything.

>>55953861
How can I make Windows 10 more safe?

>>55930828
>>55953315
PII, actually, the 1600SW came out in '98.

>>55953861
I've never heard of any widescreen LCDs of such a high resolution predating the 'SW, it was pretty much the best in its class regardless.

>>55954735
Oh, LCD maybe. But there were widescreen CRTs prior to the 1600SW.