/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>55925289
>If asking for improvements, state whether you want to price improved
God damn it, so close. Oh well, I'm not making another for a while.

>>55925289
I will make one op, don't worry.

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>>55925289
Well, Just to kick things off, this is my attempt at getting the absolute most In-game frames per dollar, poorfag mode. The goal is to have a good looking system that gets high frame-rates in games, but stay as budget as possible. This means ram must have heat spreaders(for looks), semi-modular psu at least, ect. I'm not actually building it, just a mental exercise I suppose.
>why no SSD?
Not necessary for the goal of the build.
>why no rx 480 4gb?
Impossible to find, stock cooler is garbage any way.
>why no r9 390?
Same price as 1060, but about 10% lower power, except games that use the async compute.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/HsvBZ8

I'm looking for an extremely large case. No windows, minimal rice. Do they exist?

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So I've had my computer for at least 4 years already, but today my old 7850 died. I figured since I'm replacing the GPU, I might as well upgrade my previous CPU (which was an i3-2120) and buy a 1080p monitor (been using 1600x900). How's this looking as an upgrade? The motherboard on there is the one I currently have.

On the off chance the i3-2120 won't in some way drag the 970 down and would be fine to keep for playing stuff like FO4, please let me know though. Oh and my Neo Eco 520w will still be fine, right? I looked into it a bit and it should be, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

>>55925289
Budget was approved for four of these. Deep diving into CEPH and Storage Spaces Direct. I get to keep and use for whatever, and work is paying the tab. Pretty happy about that.

I don't have the SAS controller listed, but each node will get a SAS2LP-MV8 as well, and I already have the 10GB switch. Nested virtualization is going to be interesting.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6dWgJV

>>55926780
Is this what you have or what you are buying?

>>55926813
Everything but the motherboard is what I plan on buying, sorry.

>>55926796
pcpartpicker says you're short by 2 sata cables. How do you plan on fitting all that into such a tiny case? Seems like a kick ass work machine though.

>>55926836
It seems like you're paying a lot for a 3rd gen I5 to support something you already have. Try something like this...

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/7zdykT

>>55926891
The aforementioned SAS2LP-MV8

They don't take that into account.

The Node 804 is designed for this.

>>55926780
Unless you're buying it used you'd be quite a stupid individual to buy a 970 at that price

>>55926905
ahh that makes sense. My only other question, would a UPS make sense with this? Or would it be using an external wall UPS?

>>55926893
Yeah the alternative version I was looking at was running me about $100 more than the one I posted, though yours seems to be a much better alternative aside from the 1060 being sold out everywhere I've seen (same with the RX 480 which I was originally looking at). Thanks, anon.

>>55926969
Yeah I hardly know anything about computer hardware (especially current stuff), so I can't really disagree with you.

>>55927076
I have an existing UPS that I'll be using as well.

Remember, I'm going to be building 4 of these, and interconnecting them with 10gig-e

>>55927085
Normally I'd recommend the 4gb rx 480
But due to your shit processor and the fact that amd still has that issue to fix, i'd recommend the 1060.
You have to snipe a deal but you can get it for 249$ I've seen it. Today even it's been available at that price.
Just gotta be really quick because it sells out in minutes
Use nowinstock.net and email notifiers on the retail websites.
The 1060 beats out the 970 by a good margin, cheaper than the one you listed. More vram, less power etc etc.
Not to mention you can overclock it far past stock 980 levels

first time building, any suggestions?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/MLgvWX

>>55927123
Oh, man that site is perfect. I was just about to backorder a $280 version of the 1060 on Newegg. Thanks, man. Yeah I definitely like your build more. The extra price would be well worth it.

>>55927090
I find this really fascinating. My job doesn't involve computers at all, I'm just /v/ spillover if I'm being 100% honest, but I really enjoy learning about different uses of computers.
What kind of data is the CEPH and Storage Spaces Direct managing? Is it research data of some kind? Corporate level economical data? It's very interesting to me what lies outside the consumer space.

got they new streamlined op ready lads prepare to migrate

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Waiting on the case and second SSD
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vDvBZ8
rip thinkcenter case

>>55927153
While I'll be playing with CEPH, it will likely end up being a Server 2016 storage spaces direct cluster when it gets to production, as well as run about 160 Hyper-V VM's.

It's a proof of concept, as traditional SAN's start to nickel and dime you for license costs. If it runs the way we expect it to, we'll start replacing the dev environment SAN's (VNX 9xxx).

>>55927142
do you ''''''''''''''really'''''''''''' need 32gb of ram?
also the 1tb ssd is a bit excessive, the idea behind and SSD for personal computers is that you keep the OS and important applications on it, and put everything else on a cheaper, 1tb+ HDD

i suggest 16gb of ram, a 120gb ssd and a 2tb HDD

>>55927191
thanks, any point in having an i7/ any other changes?

>>55927191
>>55927210
A 120GB SSD is really tight, and SanDisk Ultra series is decent.

I wouldn't go any smaller than a 480GB SSD on a new build.

>>55927142
Cheaper z170 motherboard, that thing is overpriced
You don't need 32gb ram, get 16gb but rated for around 2800mhz. Don't cheap out on ddr4, it makes a difference this time around, get some good latencies.
I'd also go for a high tier air cooler instead such as the noctua or the dark rock pro 3, the kraken is a fantastic cooler but it gets considerably noisy if it'll bother you

>>55925724
>poorfag mode
>$785
yeah, okay

>>55927251
He said poorfag mode not turbo poverty poorfag

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>>55927142
What are your needs? It seems you're gaming at 4k or 1440p mostly. If that's the case, 32gb of ram will absolutely never get used. You'd be lucky to use 10gb.

This is how I trimmed some money off that build while sticking to an all black/white color scheme.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/WZy6RG

>>55927281
plan on using it for VR and gaming

latest iteration
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/

>>55927250
Same guy
Almost what this guy did
>>55927281
I'd just go for better ram, and if you really plan on taking the cpu to its limits to get a stronger cpu cooler, but the h7 is fantastic for value

>>55927305
I too like just using processors

>>55927305
wrong link
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ndQmgL

>>55925289
Thank you for linking to my site (Logical Increments).

For anyone reading this (particularly if you are new to PC building/choosing parts), please let me know if you have any suggestions, comments, or criticisms. Let me know if there is anything I can do to make the site/information more accessible to people who are new. If there are any questions/information that can help newbies choose better parts, tell me so I can add it.

Site was made with community feedback. Thank you.

>>55927251
I work for $9.50 and hour 30 hours a week. If I can afford a $785 machine after saving for a few weeks, certainly somebody looking to make this a long term daily driver can justify it. See >>55927269.

>>55927305
Trying linking it again there chap.

>>55927310
Anything wrong with the ram? Besides the fact that it's 2133 and not 2400mhz.

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still have to find a nice 1080p IPS monitor

any ways I can cut down the cost without sacrificing too much? is the motherboard overkill? anything else I should swap out?

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/vhL3tJ

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>>55927269
>turbo poverty poorfag
>can't spend $800 on a new computer
try to hide you insecurity a little better next time desu

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/6PqCLD

>>55926745
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147053
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352030 <-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139070 <-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146103 <-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ4453188

Or anything by Lian Li.

>>55927359
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ndQmgL

>>55927366
You can get 16GB for ~$60. Not sure why you are getting a mATX mobo with a full tower case.

my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/PrivateJoker27/saved/hdH48d

question: my PC is bluescreening on login screen, and my HDD also died (I boot off the solid state so it still boots)

should i try RMAing the motherboard or just give up and replace the mobo with something with an i7? how much can i keep from this PC to minimize the damage? i've had it for just over a year, so i'm pretty dissapointed.

>>55927359
It just gets outperformed
Makes a difference in memelake
https://youtu.be/Er_Fuz54U0Y

>>55927367
But that's not me anon
I spent 2k canadabux back on mine a couple years back

>>55927409
>my PC is bluescreening on login screen
Googled the error message?

>>55927339
Well it's certainly £180 cheaper, and will perform exactly the same. The case is another area you could easily shave off some money, but if you really like it, go for it. It's a quality case.

>>55927349
I just have a question. I really love your site since it makes it very easy for new people to begin the search for parts and you update it very frequently. however, looking at the peripherals lists, I see the monitor one hasn't been updated for 8-9 months. do monitors not get released as often as PC components? are there not better, newer ones available?

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>>55927405
mainly because I don't have any idea what I'm doing. someone said the gaming one was really good for that price so I put it in there. what would you suggest? changing the mobo or the case? is all RAM pretty much the same as long as I get ddr4-3200?

>>55927425
thanks

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find a flaw

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/YqzJbj

>>55925289

>>55927452

>>55927456
>http://pcpartpicker.com/user/PrivateJoker27/saved/hdH48d
You even kept my typo. kek.

>>55927367
Wow, we chose similar components, I just finished building my first desktop: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/sNVtgL

>>55927426
Peripheral tech do not get updated as much as other PC hardware. That said, I should update the standard screens section.

>>55927442
mATX mobos are smaller, but typically have less features. They are meant to fit in smaller cases. The case you picked out is a full tower case. You can opt for a smaller case, and save some $$$. Or you can get a (slightly) better mobo for the same price or cheaper.

Example: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128840

>>55927455
>1TB SSD for $400.
>TN panel screen for $400

>>55927473
well fuck me
anyway I suggest changing the general to /pbg/

>>55927484
Case, power supply, and monitor are disproportionately expensive compared to the rest of the system.

>>55927489
wouldn't a larger case help with heat dissipation? space isn't an issue so I will swap out the mobo to the one you suggested, thank you!

>>55927559
>wouldn't a larger case help with heat dissipation?
If it has the proper airflow, of course!

>>55927516
/pcbg/ was kind of a pun because printed circuit board. I like your layout.

Idc what the specifics are though, I just created the thread to consolidate all the "rate my build" threads that get 6 replies and then 404. Also something something community something.

The rule of thumb for generals is to let the first thread bump limit or reach the last page before making a new one though. Use /vg/ for reference.

>>55927566
>The rule of thumb for generals is to let the first thread bump limit or reach the last page before making a new one though.
Yeah, now there are two threads. The other OP should delete the new thread, until this one is over.

>>55927524
But the case, power supply, and monitor can last multiple systems. Same with the expensive mech keyboard.

>>55927646
Screen/PSU is fine, but I am with the other anon on the case. The case is definitely overpriced. Also: Why the 380X for that price? How much are the RX480/470 in Canadia?

Is this a good cooler for i7-6700k
Noctua NH-U12S 120x120 mm

medium build for 827€ i ordered yesterday

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Jm4HBP

>>55928298
Yes, very good.

>>55928781
Ok-ish. Could have gone for a better PSU and GPU.

>>55929360
i actually got a be quiet! PURE POWER L9 350W, but this model does not show up in the part picker.

I chose the gpu for its good value per money efficiency. I will replace it in 1,5 - 2 years when it starts limiting the system

>>55929908
Well the RX 460 releases on Monday, but it's not like you can't send it back.

got some extra to spend on this, what would you change?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/7wx8M8

>>55930079
if you plan to run vms or something similar with high ram requirements, i would upgrade to 32GB ram.

this is just a very situational upgrade and the build seems fine to me

Which 1070? Don't care about looks, size, or weight.
MSI Gaming X? 10 Power phases, others are usually at 8.

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Because i eas high that night build.
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/TheRedChameleon/saved/mrwwrH
Be gentle on me ok

> Build
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/YdDtpb
This build is a mix of modest, good and great components from Logical Increments. Monitor isn't there because I already have it: Asus VG248QE (1 ms / 144 HZ / 1920x1080). Some prices had to be added manually because PcPartPicker wasn't able to detect prices from Amazon.it.

> Budget
Not really strict, but I wouldn't want to spend more than 700 euro, especially for wasted potential since my needs aren't really special

> Purposes of the build
Working: writing documents, creating powerpoints and various kinds of presentations, surfing the net (a lot)
Entertainment: watching anime and vidya, listening to music (already have an external DAC/amp, then no need for a perfomant soundcard)
Games: Fistful of Frags and Team Fortress 2 for now, I might get also Chivalry Medieval Warfare and Garden Warfare 2 in the future. I don't mind low/bad graphic quality, what I'm looking for is just a stable and high performance even after some hours of continuous gameplay. I want to exploit the potential of my monitor to the fullest, even though I know that for Chivalry and Garden Warfare 2 it will be hard to reach 144 fps. Is there a problem if I can only reach, let's say, 75-80 fps in those two games?
1) I'm still not sure that the CPU I chose might be enough for those titles. I could always change it with a i5 6500, the extra money aren't a problem to me at all.
2) Silence and cool temperatures of the PC are important features to me. The temperature in my room is always around 25°C and I might add some fans to the case when it's necessary in the future.
3) why getting a cheap GTX 750ti when there are better options? Looking at some videos on YT, the GTX 750Ti performs really well on the games I'm interested in at max/high settings. I would gladly use med or even low settings if this provided more fps.
4) why that mobo? It has all I need.
5) why no HDD? Already have a 1TB external HDD. I want SSD for short load times.

>>55930079
Very good as is. I would change the 400R for the Enthoo Pro, but you do not have to.

>>55930517
>http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/YdDtpb

why a 520W PSU when even a 300W one would be overpowered for this build?

also i see DDR4-2400 but the H110 chipset only supports up to DDR4-2166

>>55927339
Also going the extra like 10 to get a 650 watt PSU for sli isn't a bad idea, 550 would be close with OC

>>55930517
You have about ~150 Eurodollars to upgrade that build, yes? I would highly recommend getting a better GPU than that, since you have a sweet 144Hz gaming screen. Not sure how much the RX480/470 are now in Euroland, but take a look at those as an alternative. If you have enough Eurodollars left after upgrading the GPU, consider getting a 256GB SSD instead of 128GB.

>>55927514
Ssd is overpriced for sure and I got a Dell with the same 4k tn panel for 300

>>55925289
would http://pcpartpicker.com/list/DxHXvV be a decent hackintosh machine for messing around with iOS development? (not buying a mac mini because the hardware in them is ancient)

>>55930550
> why a 520W PSU when even a 300W one would be overpowered for this build?
Are you really sure that 300W might be enough?
> also i see DDR4-2400 but the H110 chipset only supports up to DDR4-2166
my bad, I need to change that.

>>55930569
I really don't have a limit to say the truth, 200 euro of upgrade could be fine if they were necessary. You're not the first person recommending me a RX 480/470. They're surely great video cards: RX 480 goes for around 289 euro here, whereas I haven't seen prices of the 470 yet. Aren't those video cards a bit too powerful for my games? are they silent? Do they overheat? do they work well on my mobo and my CPU?

>>55930602
D14 -> D15 or D15S
2x256GB -> 1x500GB

>>55930626
PartPicker shows your max power need as 182 W. As PSUs run optimally not over 80% load, everything over 230W should suffice.

When you look at PartPicker's breakdown over power usage you'll notice that the assumptions are made very precise.

>>55930668
Yeah, but why would you settle with 300W when the price difference hardly exists.
At worst he gets to use the 520W in a new build or have a secure upgrade path for this one.

It's not like he's overshooting it with a kW PSU.

>>55930636
I was thinking about the 15 but it's the maximum size the case supports, would it be a good idea to still get it?

Regarding the SSDs I'm gonna put them in raid1 and 256GB is big enough

>>55930701
>>55930668
yeah I really don't mind a more powerful PSU. I'd rather have more power than requested than the contrary. So what about this build instead? Could it work according to you? http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/gpKf9W
I could spend 50 euro more in case anything else is necessary according to you...

>>55930807
This is the Asus Radeon I could buy here: http://www.drako.it/drako_catalog/product_info.php?products_id=18833

>>55930827
Well if you're looking for silence and low temps, a blower design by Asus of all the 3rd party offerings isn't the one you should be picking.

>>55930870
Ok. There aren't other RX 480 available here atm though....the RX 480/470 excluded, what other options do I have for good GPU? What about a GTX 960? I can get it for 189 euro.

>>55930897
On the site you posted, they've got a custom 1060 for 10€ over the RX 480.
I'd defn go with that one.

And it's EVGA, so stepping it up in the future might be an option.

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Any mATX case /very/ similar to this one (Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX)?
It's quite big for a Mini-ITX case, and if I went with 1150 socket, I'd only have 2 ram slots for 16GiB total, and I'm worried that I'll want more than 16 in the future.

I want to go 1150 because of Xeon E3-1231v3. Are any 1151 Xeons basically a 6700 but no iGPU? They seem to be much pricier, is it worth the DDR4?

Also are higher-end motherboards worth the higher clocked RAM compatibility if I'm not going to OC?

>>55930921
Ok thank you. Is it compatible to the mobo and the case?

>>55931021
there is an matx version

http://www.phanteks.com/enthoo-evolv.html

>>55931867
The mATX version is literally double the price in my country (Czech Republic)
Mini-ITX is 65€ (21% VAT, shipping)
mATX is 130€ (21% VAT, shipping)

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9svPnn

built this yesterday for a friend

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How much did this cost in 2009, how good was it in 2009 and if we would build a computer similar to it today, selecting the parts we selected back then based on the release patterns of the manufacturers, what kind of PC would we build?

>>55932081
>http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9svPnn
seems good

mabye a z170 chipset and ddr4-3000 would have been a more fitting choice for this cpu/gpu combo

>>55931819
It's a small card.
I'd say it should fit in just about anything.

>>55932165
Thank you very much.
http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/NQBMcc
Is my build fine now? or is there any bottleneck? is it necessary to get a i5 6500? How does this card perform in terms of silence and heating?

>>55925724
Looks good, that case is a good one, just kind of ugly. Great airflow and well built however

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rate

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anyone recomend a psu for pic related? It won't post after swapping my gtx 670 for the fury x so it's either a bad gpu or my cougar 500w psu sucks worse than I thought.

I'm looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438084
or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095

thanks

>>55932615
That case is expensive af

Who /wait for Vega/ here

>>55933286
What card do you have?
I've got an r9 290X and as long as I'm staying at 1080p I see no reason to upgrade.
I'll probably buy a new card in 2019 and move up to 1440p at the same time.

>>55933310
290 sapphire tri x

980x i7

Wanting to go 1440p so that's why

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>>55925289
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/dDp6RG

It's either this mini itx or a alienware 13 OLED with a 10% off coupon

http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-13-r2/pd?~ck=mn

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r8 my current build

I'm looking to upgrade my r9 380 to something that can handle ultrawide 1440p 60fps when i decide to upgrade my monitor. Should i go with either a gtx 1080 which would run me at least 750€ or should i go crossfire r9 nanos since my local parts shop has them on sale for 350€ a pop so a crossfire nano config would cost me 700€ flat, though i don't know if a 750w psu is enough for them. whaddaya think anons? would a 4690k bottleneck the nanos/the 1080?

>>55933860
A single 980ti or 1070 will do 1440p 60 fps with a small overclock.

>>55933953
even in 21:9 aspect ratio?

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Didn't do this since 2008.

How much did i fuck up?

I'm hesitant to even think about overclocking.

Any good alternative to 250d for AIO + full-size card?

Thinking 400q

I'm upgrading from i3-4130 to more beefier Haswell.
I've narrowed my choice's to i5-4690k or E3-1231v3.
They are very closely priced and most bechmarks seem to show that 1231 beats non OCed i5s in most scenarios, be it gaming or productivity.
Is the 4690k worth despite that?

>>55933417
You only have a 120gb ssd in there and no HDD for files mate.
Alienware is bullshit overpriced garbage, never ever buy.

>>55934706
to be honest I never waste over 200gb of storage and I also have a two 250gb hard drives and more at my school and there free

>>55934925
Hey everyone has different data storage needs. You got a solid list there. I say go for it.

>>55935553
Oh wait I didn't notice you have a b150 board. You need z170 to overclock. If you aren't overclocking, don't get a "K" series cpu or liquid cooler.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/hT6whq

I'm going to do a multitude of things on my computer: Gaming will be mostly racing games: (GRID, DIRT, rFactor, etc.) I do a lot of net browsing with shitload of tabs (both Chrome and Firefox) I do audio production (Reason, Reaper), HD media consumption and streaming (including sports) and I'll be using Autodesk and Solidworks.

Also can anyone can find a comparable but cheaper Mobo?

Thanks

>>55936147
What features do you even want from the MOBO? Also, unless you're playing at 4k, I'm pretty sure the 1080 is pointless for racing games. They don't tend to be the most graphically intensive.

>>55935590
nah, I plan to overclock the cpu and fury x but thanks for telling me about the b170 board thanks

>>55936241
>>55936147
As for the rest... the PSU is mildly overkill unless you plan to do SLi later or something, from what I understand of CAD you might want to consider getting 32 GB of RAM for it, and with a budget like yours there's no real reason not to spend a hundred bucks for an SSD.

Sorry this might not be the thread for it, but I've been putting together my computer piece by piece and had planned on getting a 1060. The only 1060 I've been able to find was a Zotac version, but I've never heard of them. Do they make good quality stuff or should I stay away? The things I've read about the specific card seemed good, but I wanted as unbiased an opinion as possible.

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>tfw fell for the upgrade mobo/ram/cpu/gpu/psu and stick with the same monitor/type of hdd/pc case for over a decade meme

I like my monitor because I'm used to it and the Pentium D era case makes it very sleeper rig-esque which i like but really starting to think an ssd might be worthwhile... Samsung is the best brand, right? I hear there's lifespan issues related to how much is being written, should i disable pagefile? i have 32gb of ram so i don't need it anyway for most things.

i know the difference in sequential speed is only going to be like going from Son Goku to Raditz, but the difference in 4k random speed is like Kuririn vs Perfect Cell, so im hoping the improvements are massively noticeable.

>>55936613
There's nothing wrong with Zotac stuff but nothing special either. They tend to use a lot of plastic rather than metal, but otherwise fine.

>>55936919
>a lot of plastic rather than metal
Should I be concerned about that? I don't know very much about computers, but isn't having a bunch of plastic on a component that'll be 60-70 degrees under load pretty bad? Or is it, like, some polymer with a really high melting point?

>>55936966
It won't melt unless your gpu hits like 98C, which a 1060 never will.

>>55936998
Haha and even if it did, I'd be needing a new one either way. Alright cool. Thanks, dude.

Don't really have anything to contribute but I just wanna say I love you /g/!
I've been lurking the past few threads and people are being really helpful and I'm also learning a lot. Glad this general was made.

>>55936374
>MOBO
That's why weakest point knowledge wise, I'm looking for a Mobo with 3.0/3.1 USBs. I'm still looking if M.2 is what I really need.
>Games
I won't be playing racing games exclusively (GTA,:V, Hitman)

>GPU
I do have a 3440x1440 monitor. No it's not 4k but I might jump to 4k or if/when 21:9 4k gets made. That being said, I'm willing to go down.
>PSU
Yes, I'll get a second card later.
>SSD
That's HDD, I already have an SSD.

would a xeon e3-1231v3 be an upgrade from a i5-4690k? i haven't oc'd the 4690k since i don't know shit about cpu oc'ing and i'm afraid i will kill it with too much voltage/heat.

>>55937753
If you're doing something that can take full advantage of having 8 threads, yes. If you're just gaming and shit, not really.

>>55937242
Anonymous OP here. I'm actually pretty damn happy with how the thread turned out.

Do you help with notebooks?

>>55934007
Not sure if what you're saying is you want to try to over clock, or not. But if you're looking to try first off you need to get the version of that processor with a K at the end of the name. The non K intel processors can't be overclocked.

>>55938037
This thread is mainly for assembling your own machine. I believe logicalincrements.com has a laptop guide. I also recommend YouTube reviews.

What's the difference between arctic coolings accelero xtreme IV and accelero xtreme IV 280?
when i looked on their site i could't find any differences, yet they're listed as separate products.

>>55938452
From what I'm finding the 280 is specifically made for AMD RX 280 cards. The regular version is for everything else.

Wonder what makes the RX 280 so special.

What should I keep in mind when I'm building a PC? I tend to play games on the low end of the graphics spectrum, like 2d games.fighters and so on, but I also do a ton of research, and often keep tons of different browser tabs at once looking at different articles and web apps, as well as use Photoshop, Illustrator, and InDesign, along with other intensive graphic design apps. What kind of build should I be planning, so I can run this kind of workspace, without my computer slowing to a crawl?

>>55938944
Depending on how intensive you use photos hope and what not you may want to consider an i7 over an i5, first off. Second youday want between 16 and 32 gigs of ram, again depending on how intensive you run the machine, and depending on if you ever want to upgrade it if you have to. Next you'll want a graphics card. People will shill Nvidia or amd, depends on what route you want to go and how much you want to spend. As of right now the gtx 1070 is considered a sweet spot in terms of price to performance, and that is what I would go for. Now if you're not going to overclock an air cooler like a hyper 212 evo will be good enough, and on that note you should also make sure you don't get the "K" version of whatever processor you get, as the K version is the overclockable one. You'll want around a 600 to 800 watt psu, might be abl3 to get away with less, not sure, but a 760 or so would be a good spot if you decide to upgrade. And then the case is your shot.

>>55936736
- keep the hdd
- buy an ssd
- install os on ssd
- move pagefile / swap partition to hdd
- keep personal data on the hdd

> i have 32gb of ram so i don't need it anyway for most things.
the os still uses it to store cold cache entries (i.e. things it wont need to touch soon) unless you tell it not to.

why should i get h170/b150 instead of h110 chipset?

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>>55925289
heres my current. waiting to switch to a 6800k/x99 soon though. all other parts besides cpu and motherboard will stay though

>>55940135
and ram too i guess

>>55925289
About time we actually started to have dedicated generals for this. These are too rare.

What is the best SSD to get?

I was thinking the Samsung 850 EVO 250 gig version. I doubt I'll need more than that.

>>55940531
either that or the pro as far as 2.5 inch form factor goes.

theres better price per dollar ones that are pretty close though

>>55940550
can you name any? the cheaper ones that are pretty close?

>>55940557
Not him but I'd get the 250gb 850 EVO. Samsung is one of the better brands, and the 250gb is on sale on amazon for $88 l, that's a damn good price for a samsung.

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>>55940531
For price per GB, 500GB is the best value. But yes, 850 EVO/Pro is the best choice in the 2.5" form factor, Pro being the better of the two.
I personally wouldn't recommend getting a 250GB SSD, but if you're really sure that you won't need more than that, whatever.

That said, I'm planning to pick up pic related next month. Does anyone have a suggestion for a better/cheaper PWM fan controller for 6 fans ?

>>55940557
sandisk, mainly extreme pro as far as "high" end ssds. crucial probably has the best $ per gb ratio ssds without being utter garbage. but if you have the money get the 850 or sandisk

Is this fan setup enough to actually run all of the fans included with the gpu/cpu/psu/case?
I'm new to this and can't figure out if this would even work.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/9wrNqk

I recently purchased a Xeon E5640 (@4.4ghz) with a decent motherboard and a 380X (1150mhz core / 1500mhz memory) for a total $300. Did I do good bros?

Going for 1060 because I am a poorfag, and I want to stick with Nvidia.

That said, which is the better option? MSI 1060 or EVGA 1060? Seems EVGA is smaller, has one fan, whereas MSI is bigger and has two fans.

Not sure if that makes a big deal?

>>55925724
>Poorfag
>$800 dollars
>Don't even have a monitor

Threw this together last week as a cheap HTPC since I had most of the parts laying around already. The GPU is still in my main desktop, but I'll toss it in once I upgrade that. It's too bad it doesn't overclock that well. I guess I just lost the silicon lottery, because apparently other people with the same board have gotten surprisingly good overclocks on it.
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/tMGrVY

>>55940135
why do you need a 6800k?

>>55940781
anyone?

>>55941485
ive been getting into photo editing and wanna try getting into some filming (specifics is a group of my friends and i will be doing a bunch of backcountry snowboarding and such and ill be filming).

adobe products eat up all the resources they can. plus i get impatient and want new stuff and z97 days are getting kinda old.

>>55940781
the one fan cards are made for iTX cases, and are usually not good at overclocking. But if you don't care about that then go ahead and get whatever you like.

>>55940781
>>55941537
right now evga doesnt have much to offer for the 1060. the msi is solid so get it

>>55925289
I missed the W10 upgrade thing right when I was thinking of dual booting debian.

Any chance to get it? I don't have an unused W7 key because I've used all mine in the past.

Or is there a pirating method already?

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>>55925289
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/ZyklonBen/saved/#view=9HxZxr

>>55941670

(i intend to troll people in battlefield 1 with racist voices, and also multi-task a lot and do some light video editing)

>>55941670
you can get the 2400mhz kingston ram for 6 bucks cheaper on newegg right now because i just ordered some 2 days ago

>>55941712
Why not 3600mhz? That's even better

>>55941730
im sure it is pajeet

>>55941755
I'm serious 2400hz is slower than 3600mhz, and for almos the same price as ram is cheap, so why not?

>>55941798
speed doesnt generally matter as much as cas latency

>>55941821
the lower the numbers, the better right?

>>55941712

yeah i'm going to price shop each item before ordering, i don't trust this site to always be accurate on who is cheapest

>>55941730

don't need ram over 1600mhz

does a ram with higher frequency work on a mobo that is only compatible with a lower one?

Can someone give the a rundown of how chassis fan headers work? At a complete loss here.
I'm looking at the ASRock Z170 Pro4s and the NZXT S340. And I see 5x fans and 3x radiator support.
http://support.nzxt.com/hc/en-us/articles/203310114-What-Can-I-Fit-Into-An-S340-
http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20Pro4S/index.us.asp?cat=Specifications
I only see 3 chassis fan connectors though. Would I need to get a fan controller/switch the case? Any and all help would be appreciated.

>>55941845
yes

would you guys recommend me building my own computer... personally ive never built one before... 2 years ago i paid geek squad to install my new video card

i heard it's like legos but i'm not so sure... parts cna break, legos are more sturdy. is it really that simple or do i need a user guide and manual to know where parts go

>>55942219
watch videos on youtube of people building pcs. some things may vary, but you get the basic idea. it's not hard, really. you just need to be organized.

about parts that can break, don't hold and throw your processor like a monkey and you should be fine.

1060 gtx restock when

>>55942219
You definitely want to read the manuals, and watch videos. "Legos for adults" is accurate, but some people read it "as easy as Legos", and forget the "for adults" part.

That said, millions of normal people have assembled their PCs by themselves. Unless you have a medical condition that prevents from using your hands to plug components into place, you should be fine.

Install the IO shield before putting the mobo in the case.

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http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nnqcqk

Final check before I order?

CPU is listed as unlockable to a quad-core which means it's basically a Phenom II x4 955. Office computer.

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>>55943720
???

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>>55943774
that thing is full of shit

an AM3 CPU is compatible with an AM3+ motherboard

>>55932100
That 512MB GPU has been basically unusable for AAA games for quite a while. You can expect to spend $800 for a decent PC that'll allow you to play games for another 5 years.

Come back late 2016 and ask for advice then (new CPUs being released)

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>>55943720

just found some slightly better memory on sale
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226756

>DDR3L which should be good for this kinda use
>no retarded tall heatsink like that Klevv set
>memory controller on the CPU probably can't handle the Klevv's 1866 mhz clock anyways
>about a buck cheaper

>>55932770
Probably not PSU. Pull out the graphics card and see if it posts

>>55943952
did she died?

I'm >>55930517 again. Yesterday I was suggested to get a GTX 1060, but after watching some youtube videos about how the GTX 960 performs on the games I'm interested in, I thought that the GTX 1060 might be overkill for my games, which is why I slightly changed my build, investing the remaining money on other stuff (a 7200 rpm HDD, a 16 GB RAM, which might be useful to me since I tend to keep a lot of apps enabled at the same time).

http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/XzLtpb
Does this build work in your opinion? Is the case good enough to for giving the necessary airflow to all the components? I'm looing for a quite silent and not overheating setup, do you think that this could be fine?

>>55944190
A WD Blue 1TB costs 3€ more than the Seagate.

You're paying for the 2.5" size on that Seagate.

Anyone know of a non-rack computer case that will house a lot of 2.5" drives?
I mean like 16 of them.

>>55944307
Yep you're right. Fixed it: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/dgWx6X

What about the other parts? is everything fine?

just about to order my parts, gone for the i7 over the i5 and the more expensive 1080 aswell. is the mother up the scratch? anything worth changing?
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/n8HXvV

>>55945454
meant to say motherboard.

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Building new rig, going to get a 1070 GTX, but I need a CPU.

Was thinking either i5 6600k or i7 6700K

Major differences are double the cores and hyper threading, although I'm not sure how games deal with multiple cores these days and I don't know anything about hyper threading.

Can someone enlighten me please?

Anyone can can recomment parts for a 450 budget pc?

Hello, which cooler is better for i7-6700k Noctua NH-U12s or 14s?

>>55947294
If you're gaming at 1440p the i5 is more than enough, especially with an oc

hows this build? anyone see any problems?

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yhg8M8

>>55947619
>Founder's edition
>85c
The motherboard is pretty overpriced, but nothing in this build is a bad component.

>>55947867
what would you change it to?

>http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8

If you guys are interested in refurbished 980 tis, they are going for $310. Reminder, this is roughly same as 1070 ($379 msrp/~$450 actual retail)

Fury Nitro was going for about $300 last week or so, 980ti should be better.

1060 restock when?

>>55947893
Literally any aftermarket 1080

planning on getting one of those cpu watercooling starter kits for 120€ because ny air cooler died, any experience with those?

Looking for cheap SATA hardrives, since my old hardrive is nearly dying

You guys think these are worth getting?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182226197409
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182227738481
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162106939687
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252489746127

>>55948770
I don't know.
Buying used hard drives is a bit like buying used condoms

>>55948825
yeah I know but I'm really desperate right now and low on cash.

>>55948866
If you factor in the shipping costs, you could probably find something in the 500gb size range at a local physical retailer. Even if it's used.
Atleast you'll have someone to turn to if it dies.

Those hard drives hit the price bottom. They're 'overpriced' for what they are, but selling them for less than that would really just mean a loss for the seller.

Just search around a bit.
I can buy a new 500GB SATA drive for 43€ and everything is overpriced here. Surely you can find one in the $30-40 range.

>>55948904
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD48N5245&ignorebbr=1
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5AD48N5245&ignorebbr=1

You think these are worth getting?

1) is an aftermarket Cooler necessary for a i5 6500?
2) is pairing a good video card ( Evga GTX 960 2GB) with a cheap mobo (Asus H110 m-a) and a cheap case (Cooler Master N200) a stupid choice? Can it cause overheating?

>>55949761
For a non-k i5-6500 there's little reason to move up from the stock cooler, but with Hyper 212 costing as little as it does, why not.

A 960 isn't a 'good' video card.
It's a mid tier card that wont overheat and a 'cheap' mobo or case certainly wont influence performance in a negative way.

when are the 1000 series going to be restocked?

>>55949826
Ok thank you

>>55949761
1) : temps? No. Noise? Yes.
2): you're fine. If airflow in the case is bad, you can always add some case fans.

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Hello /g/,

My comp is about 5 years old now and I'd like to get a new one. How is this for a build? I am looking for any possible way to get the price down without skimping on a quality, and silent, cool running build. Would appreciate any opinions you have. Thanks.

Mobo: Asus B150M-A
CPU: Intel I5-6500
GPU: GTX 1060
PSU: Corsair CX600
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB
Case: Fractal Design Define S
SSD: Samsung Evo 500GB
Other: Arctic Cooling Alpine 11 Heatsink

>>55950367
Cx power supplies are quite failure prone. Otherwise good list.

Any idea how much nvidias and amds hbm cards will cost?

>>55950770
*new hbm cards

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need an audio card that does optical

it doesn't really matter right? I can just get the cheapest asus model? optical = digital = nothing to fuck up?

>>55950162
1) honestly it's the first time I hear someone say that stock coolers are noisy. Is the noise unbearably loud?
2) the case I chose should have a good airflow. It has 2 stock fans installed and it has room for 3 more fans.
I'm worried about overheating more than noise.

>>55950815
Loud, but not unbearable. Worst case scenario, you install it, decide it's annoying, get a cheap aftermarket a week later.

>>55950984
Yes, no problem. Cooler Master 212 is cheap also here after all.

Talking about my build: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/kkQTCy

I still can't decide if a i5 6500 is better than a i3 6100 for me. I don't mind the extra money for the i5 honestly, if i5 really grants a better perfomance than i3. I'm not going to use my PC exclusively for gaming, I'm the kind of guy that keeps the PC on all day and uses it for basically everything (be it work or general entertainment). What I want is a stable performance over a large amount of time.

>>55951101
Single core performance of the 6100 is obviously better but becoming less important in the future with dx12/vulkan.

>>55951158
Price difference from i3 and i5 here is less than 80€, but i5 might be a better long-time investment, in case I want to change my video card in the future. Basically any video card could fit into my case after all.

I'm starting from scratch with a 1070 build. Should I go for a monitor with 1440p/60fps or one with 1080p/144fps?

They are both within each others price range, will the extra fps be worth the lower resolution?

>>55951410
Depends on the game really. Third person action games (GtaV, Witcher3) look mostly the same at 60 or 90 fps.

Twitch reaction games like first person shooters or rts games really benefit from going above 100 fps, but they tend to run on weaker hardware easily. My gtx 960 runs Overwatch at 90+ fps on ultra, for example.

>>55951526
GTX 960 FTW
Did you try playing other first person fps?

My 1070 build, starting with nothing.

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/kfqGcc

What do you guys think? Am I maximizing the GPU? I think I"m going to go with the 1440p/60fps monitor.

I'm thinking about selling my 4790K and replacing it with a 5775C (since it's faster than 4790K and 6700K clock for clock at gaming), thing is I heard it's a shit overclocker. I'm hoping to get 4.4GHz out of the chip but that seems really hard to do.

>>55951561
Doom runs pretty well. Vulkan gave me a 65 fps average, 40 fps low, 81 fps high.
This is with an fx 8350. It's pretty much the most demanding fps on the market RN.
>>55951598
Almost exactly the same list put together for an imaginary 1070 build. Don't buy Founder's cards though. The usb wifi dongle kinda sucks too.
Evga acx3.0 1070 will look great in a B/W theme build.

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As this is my first time building a PC and I admittedly have money to burn, how future proof is this build? One of the main things I was going for when picking the parts is picking the best possible parts with my money on the parts that matter (such as the graphics card) so I don't have to worry about upgrading it for years to come.

TL;DR: I just want to build the PC and be done with it, only have to worry about maintenance such as reapplying thermal paste on the processor if necessary I suppose.

>>55951911
Might spring for 32 gigs of ram just for the hell of future proofing. Other than that if you really have money to burn just sli 1080s.

>>55951911
I have a non-chroma blackwidow and i don't really like it. Overpriced like crazy. You can get good mechanical kb's for $90.

>>55950493
Thanks for the tip. What do you suggest?

>>55951963
I'll consider upping the RAM since sticks are getting cheaper apparently? Also what's the purpose of having more than one graphics card? For 4K gaming?

>>55951999
Yeah I considered getting a cheaper mechanical keyboard. I admit I was drawn to its rainbow lights and liked the sound of the clicks but then after doing a bit of research, I found out that there's no "extra features" such as a volume knob and/or a mute button which I surprisingly found useful on my brother's keyboard.

Got brands you'd recommend?

>>55952071
If you want clicky keys and a volume knob, go for a DAS KEYBOARD. If you want flashy lights, you could go for a Ducky Shine.

Also, spend the extra on a better CPU Cooler, like the Noctua NH-D15.

>>55952071
I don't, but find /mkg/ in the catalog. They'll point you in the right direction. They might call you bad names first.
>>55952010
Evga stuff is my personal choice, but rosewill and antec are great too. You can get away with 550w on that list btw. Probably even 500 desu.

>>55952096
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll go check them out.

>Also, spend the extra on a better CPU Cooler, like the Noctua NH-D15.

I remember I posted an earlier build on an older /pcbg/ thread a week ago and I had the Corsair H100i on it and an anon suggested that I don't need to spend that much on a cooler.

However I just looked up the Noctua NH-D15 and it's a bit cheaper than the Corsair cooler so I'll keep it in mind.

>>55952139
>They might call you bad names first.

I'd be disappointed if they didn't honestly considering my new-ness :^)

>>55952071
Great. What do you think of my build here >>55951101? Can I run old fps games like TF2 at good fps level for a 144 Hz screen? Not nevessarily on ultra settings, med settings would be more thna enough to me.

>>55952256
160+ fps maxed out tf2

>>55952071
Not necessarily for 4k gaming. With an i7 and 2 gpus that powerful, plus 32 gigs of ram? Unless something fails that pc will be good for a pretty good while.

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Looking to upgrade most of my computer, reusing my ssd's and hdd's. gpu, and also my noctua nh d14.

Currently looking for a mATX mobo that the nh d14 wont overhang on the first pcie slot.

>>55952278
Holy shit!

What's the general opinion of an sshd? I'm making a mITX build with around $850 (excluding monitor, keyboard and mouse), and an sshd fits in that budget. However, I heard ssd's go on sale a lot, and will eventually lower in cost over the next year or so.

So, is it worth getting an sshd, or just wait for an ssd? Are ssd's that much better?

I'm building a system around an i5 6600K. Which means buying DDR4 RAM.

How much does RAM speed matter in this day and age? It seems that the price only increases a bit from DDR4-2133 up to DDR4-3000, and then starts getting more expensive? How much is worth paying for?

Use case: I intend to overclock, but only moderately (I'm aiming for 4.0GHz) I remember reading that RAM speed affects the integrated graphics more than other things. I might use that, but if I do it'll only be for a spare monitor, so it doesn't need to be fast. I'd prefer to spend only $60-70 or so on the RAM (16GB of it. Sure, sure, memes) but I could go up to $100 or so if it makes a significant difference. I play vidya gaymes, but that's not my only concern, I also fuck around in VMs and edit RAW photos.

>>55952406
Ok, 160 fps might be a slight exaggeration. It'll probably float between 125 fps and that. Game is 9 yrs old bruh.

>>55952497
It's already very high, considering it's maxed out. I'll probably play TF2 at med settings with gibs and ragdolls disabled anyways.

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Why are LGA1151 motherboards so expensive. I just want a sub $100 ATX motherboard that I can overclock.

>>55952256
My brother's build is similar to this. IIRC he plays Overwatch at 1080p on medium settings at around 70-80 FPS.

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>>55952643
$96

>>55952706
Is AsRock actually any good though? All the time I hear about how shit they are.

>>55952705
Is it a good performance?

My bad, this >>55952256 was actually addressed to >>55951781

>>55952715
You wanted dirt cheap. Take what you can get or fork over.
There's a good msi board at $110 in all black .

>>55952810
What's the name of the msi board?

>>55952725
He says it's good enough for him. I played it myself on his MX279H monitor and it looks and plays great, for what he paid for at least.

>>55947294
6600k and 6700k have the same amount of cores. 6700k has hyperthreading and is pretty unnecessary for gaming. Get the 6600k, overclock it to 4.5 because it should easily get that overclock and put the extra 100 dollars into your computer

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>>55952822
I was thinking of the msi z170 sli plus. Turns out its more in the $120 range, wnd fluctuates.

>>55933310
>>55933330
1440p is such a minor leap, why not 4k?
I play with a 4k monitor with dual 980tis and it's fantastic

>>55941552
>new stuff
So then why buy now when kaby Lake/zen are coming right up
Z97 still have amazing offerings
My 4770k is kicking ass at 4.5ghz

what brands should I be looking at for monitors? I just want a nice 1080p IPS monitor, pls no TN.

Here's my build
http://pcpartpicker.com/list/3NxXvV

monitor budget is up to $300 or so I guess. Is Asus top-tier? I know they make a really nice 1440p 144hz IPS monitor so does that high quality spread to their 1080p ones as well?

>>55953193
> IPS
Do you like ghosting?

>>55949826
>mid tier card
960 is a shitty poorfag card anon
970 is mid tier

>>55950770
About tree fiddy

>>55950795
Get a fiio e10k
Amazing for the price

>>55925289
I'm a programmer but I don't game. What kind of build should I do? This is my build so far
>http://pcpartpicker.com/list/QL7k6X
I'm lost as to what motherboard, power supply, and case i should get. Should I bother with a GPU or will the built one suffice.

>>55953564
According to Logical Increments the GTX 960 is a very good/great video card.

>>55954114
The i5 6600K has a great igpu from what a hear, probably not on level with the rx470 or the gtx1080, but if you won't be doing anything with heavy graphics than you should be fine.

As for the case I recommend the Corsair 200R ATX. It's cheap, looks sleek, and comes with a fan and multiple other places for you to mount fans.

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>>55954114
>>55954386
Forgot to mention, for the power supply if you can spend the money go for a gold certified one, if not a bronze should be fine.

I'm not really sure about the motherboard though.

How big of a difference is the i5-6600K from the i5-4970K?

>>55953297
I can't stand the look of TN. how bad is ghosting/screen tearing, really?

>>55954114

>>55954386
>>55954428
This Anon has a good idea, Z170-E is a good motherboard with a combo deal with your cpu on newegg.

>>55954449
5% or so.

>>55950984
90% of cooling sound issues are because of failing fan bearings.

>>55954386
>>55954428
>>55954630
ty guys

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Guess it's time to build a new computer.

Should I worry about these stats? THis is all idle, no programs open.

>>55954630
>>55954428
>>55954386
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
is that motherboard really necessary its 127$

>>55955630
LGA1151 motherboards a bit pricey, you could always go microATX and go cheaper though. I'm not an expert on motherboards so if any anons have better advice for this guy please tell him.

You could also switch your cpu to a LGA1150 one, and switch to an i5-4690K with cheaper motherboard options with only a slight decrease in performance. The only issue with that is you're more limited in terms of upgrades since the newer and better stuff will come out for the newer LGA1151 more often.

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Hey guys, I really want more graphics power. I want to be able to maintain 144 FPS in BF4 multiplayer while cranking the resolution scale up through supersampling to make everything look sharper at 1080p.

My question is should I buy another 380 or 380x for crossfire or hold out for a high end card? I really want this PC to be able to crush new games.

>>55956147
xfire 380's will only push about 100fps 1080p max

>>55955413
I guess these stats are normal?

>>55956334
BF4 multiplayer frames per second are different than the FPS measurements that are posted on review sites. As it is, I already can achieve 100-144 fps on most multiplayer maps with a single 380. Obviously I can't crank the resolution scale up in multiplayer while maintaining FPS. BF4 multiplayer has received insane performance optimizations over the years that aren't reflected in tech review benchmarks whatsoever.

>>55951694
Why would you do this don't you have other hobbies? You already have a overpowered cpu for gaming purpose.
>>55952494
Skylake skales a bit with faster ram.

How much can I expect to save if I hold off to buy the parts for my PC on the week of Black Friday/Cyber Monday?

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$2k budget, I'm probably gonna wait on a 1080 hybrid which is why I have no GPU included. Upgrading from a 3570k/GTX 670 build. Already have a mouse and monitor but my keyboard killed itself so I'll probably have to buy a new mechanical later. Any improvements? I'm not necessarily looking to spend my entire budget, but I'd like something that will last me five years playing at 1440p and do VR.

>>55957045
Go full custom loop or don't. And you should wait for the 1080ti to get what you aim for. 1080/1070 use outdated ram m8.

>>55957277
ram means nothing

>>55957310
HBM is the shit for dx12 and vulkan.

I built a PC with an Asus Z170 Pro Gaming as the mobo. It refuses to recognize my Windows 7 ISO. Would I be better off just getting 10 somehow?

>>55951694
The 5775C is a piece of shit unless you're using it for it's integrated GPU. It's basically vaporware too.

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Currently running a pretty budget build from like 4 years ago (pic related), just started a new job so looking at getting things updated.

Would a 1060 be bottlenecked by this mobo and CPU? Specifically looking at pccasegear.com/products/36001/asus-rog-geforce-gtx-1060-strix-gaming-oc-6gb (obviously an Aussie, so stop and check yourself before you start posting Newegg links).

Or would a 960 even be enough (980s are still far too expensive over here to be worthwhile)? Failing all of that, should I just kinda update my mobo and CPU and essentially build a whole new PC?

>>55957277
Eh, I'd do full custom but I don't want to deal with the maintenance. Although if I'm gonna do full custom I may as well get a 5820k and overclock it like a motherfucker

Can anyone answer my question?

>>55958195
>Asks to answer their question
>Doesn't even present it in their comment nor links to it

I need a graphics card around $130. What's the best thing I can get?

>>55958583
At that budget find something used for sure. Used gtx 960, r9 380, or hd 7970 I've seen at $130ish. I'm talking Craigslist, not like newegg refurbished.

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>>55958583
>>55958661
Well actually
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16814127973&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleAdwords-Mobile-_-pla-_-Video+Card+-+Nvidia-_-N82E16814127973&gclid=CjwKEAjwlZa9BRCw7cS66eTxlCkSJAC-ddmw_xI7xPH6_cE2muysB7AyMcmFQ_oOKuAmwTYxQ52KoBoCa9Hw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

>>55954428
is this the GOD case?

i have an amd 6350 and a gtx 660, would upgrading to a gtx 1060 be overkill?

>>55958723
GOD case?

>>55958732
ye

>>55958731
Sell the whole computer, market it as custom gaming machine, say how good it is for LoL, WoW, Cs:Go. Then use the cash and a little extra to build new from scratch.

>still on a 7870
sucks being poor ;_;

>>55958791
intradesting idea...

>>55959019
>intradesting

are m.2 ssd's a meme?

My non-modular PSU has 4 peripheral cables and 1 FHDD cables: what do I use these for?

>>55960216
cut them

>>55960272
Let me reformulate the questions: what are those cables supposed to be linked to?

>>55960321
nothing

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>>55959103
hownew.ru

Is m-itx a meme, I really like the idea of making my build pretty small

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/twyvWX

Need help on deciding GPU, and does the rest of the PC look good?

I'm currently using an AMD 7850 (overclocked) and an i5 3570K - I'd like to see a significant performance increase. Cant quite afford the 1070's, so guessing either 480/1060. I really didn't like Sapphire (unless they've gotten better?), what other brands are better (any UK-based ones for returns, or am I asking too much?)

Also, I'd be fine with recycling the 3570K, but I wanna downsize to M-ATX or smaller, so I need a new mobo. What's the potential options here? Can I only buy mobo's from years ago? Would it just be easier to just go all new?

Also, I'm looking for a new monitor too. Think I'll stick with 1080p, so what's the "go to" recommended budget orientated monitor? With VESA mounts as the only exception.

Thanks.