EUROPOOR GPU THREAD

Planning to buy from caseking.de, cannot decide between 470 and 480.

Interesting thing, MSI 470 4GB is only 10€ less than sapphire 480 4GB

https://www.caseking.de/en/msi-radeon-rx-470-gaming-x-4g-4096-mb-gddr5-gcmc-148.html

https://www.caseking.de/en/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-nitro-4g-4096-mb-gddr5-gcsp-155.html

But 8GB version the difference is 50€. How is that?

Bamp

>RX 480 nitro expected to be available in september
the wait goes on

>>55916155

https://www.computeruniverse.net

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>Gpu breaks down
>No replacement avaidable from warranty
>Get money refunded
Jokes on them I bought it 275€ secondhand

Which shop is the cheapest and delivers to whole europe?

>>55916536
Many people around here order their stuff from Germany. Mindfactory is good.

Wating for 480 prices to drop to reasonable levels.Right now its not worth picking one up,4gb went from 220 to 250 euros and the 8gb went from 250 to 280 which is disgusting,preodering one of the 470s seems like a good right now deal seeing as you can find them for 220€.

mindfactory
also which manufacturer is best for 1070? ASUS?

>>55916652
Mindfactory does not ship to all europe

who here /GTX1060/?

I am planning to buy a GTX 1060 Turbo for 301€.

>>55916935
Link

I bought GTX1060 since its cheaper than RX480 in most of europe.

470 4GB year later after it's /actually/ *$150*, similiar price of 370 now.

Right now 470 4GB costs more than a 380X.

Pair it with LG IPS 75Hz FreeSync HDMI monitor for 150€

>470 is 270€ in europe

Fuck this. Is there a point in waiting to shed 10-20 euros?

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>>55916155
The 470 was a fucking disappointment. Barely cheaper than a 480, at least on the 4GB version. Sapphire and the others jewing out hardcore because there is no cheap reference card. Shit availability as well. 149$ MSRP my ass. The 460 likely is gonna be 130€ as well, with fucking 370-tier performance. No competition from Nvidia in sight, and I doubt they're going to lowball AMD anyway. If that isn't going to settle, I will sit out this generation.

>>55917016
http://www.globaldata.pt/componentes/placas-graficas/pcie/grafica-asus-geforcer-gtx-1060-turbo-6gb.html

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>upgraded to a 1070 for two games
Maybe a waste of money. At least I can play DMC4:SE in 4K now.

>>55917194
lol enjoy your temps

>>55916155
Bought a Fury Nitro from OcUK a week ago. Great card.

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>>55916155
Picked up a used aftermarket 980ti for 350 euro with 1,5 of warranty left. Oc'd it's faster than a 1070 and still shit on any single cards that AMD has out.

Feelsgoodman

>>55917400
http://www.overclock.net/t/1607273/nvidia-maxwell-moved-to-legacy

I was going to buy a 4GB RX 480, but with these prices and availability I might as well buy a 1060. I'm going to wait a few weeks in case AMD gets their shit together but I'm really not holding my breath.

>>55917428
And they later retracted that.

Besides, Maxwell shaders are identical to Pascal shaders besides the die shrink.

They can't optimize for Pascal without optimizing for Maxwell aswell

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I'm more than satisfied with my VIA IGP.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/evga-geforce-gtx-1070-ftw-gaming-acx-30-8gb-gddr5-vr-ready-graphics-card-1920-core-1607mhz-gpu-1797m

I'll be buying this with my next paycheck.

it feels like being kicked in the balls
seeing americans getting those sweet ones for $200-$250
but what was I expecting, above gtx980 for 200€ jump?

>>55916188
because ya'll idiots will buy anythang

8gb is redundant on a 1080p mid market card.

Do we wait????

http://geizhals.eu/msi-geforce-gtx-1060-6gt-oc-v809-2205r-a1478879.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=pl&hloc=uk&hloc=eu
Would this OC well?

>>55917690
Sure if you want no GPU till the middle of 2017 then are ok with playing massive mark ups

Preorder if you need one now, wait for HBM options if you have a good old card.

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>>55917400
I'm glad you're happy, anon, but as somebody who recently sold a 780, I think anybody who buys an old Nvidia card is a massive retard. By the time that warranty's up it'll be performing at 80% of a Fury X's level.

>>55917442
>They can't optimize for Pascal without optimizing for Maxwell aswell
This is just delusional. There are major differences between the two, not least the fact that asynchronous compute is explicitly disabled for Maxwell (only) in the driver, proving that Nvidia can gimp one and not the other.

>The reason Maxwell doesn't take a hit is because NVIDIA has explictly disabled async compute in Maxwell drivers. So no matter how much we pile things to the queues, they cannot be set to run asynchronously because the driver says "no, I can't do that". Basically NV driver tells Time Spy to go "async off" for the run on that card. NV driver runs asynchronous tasks in one queue on Maxwell, similar to if they were submitted in one queue ("async off" in Time Spy). If NVIDIA enables Async Compute in the drivers on Maxwell, Time Spy will start using it. Performance gain or loss depends on the hardware & drivers.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/223850/discussions/0/366298942110944664/

Straight from a Futuremark developer. That card is going to age like a bottle of milk, my friend.

>>55917694
I haven't found a test for this particular MSI model.
It has a higher base clock than the other cards and the cooler looks like a Twin Frozr knockoff, so it might be good.

GPU prices in Europe right now are absolutely fucking retarded.

Not buying anything until these disgusting jews fix their idiotic prices.

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>>55918418
like thats ever happening

buy gtx950 or a 1080, not those bait cards in between, thank me later

>>55916188
fucking caseking had a db leak/got hacked and now im getting phishing mails on the email i used for them. they didnt even notify their customers about it.

would not recommend ordering from them

Was planning an upgrade to a 480 from my 760, but found an used sapphire 280x for 140€ close to me. Expecting it to arrive tomorrow, should be a fun card to tinker with.
Plan on undervolting it, and if I can find a way around the high power consumption on multimonitor and video playback, I'll have more confidence in going for higher end amd's.

>>55918196

Videocardz has a mini review on it.
One heatpipe and a single aluminium piece heatsink, also probably using the lower binned chips. Don't have much confidence for it long term.

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>>55919311

Forgot to say no VRM cooling whatsoever, and I doubt those slits are enough for the fans to cool them.

>>55919442
What the fuck.
This has to be worse than the reference cooler.

>>55919526

Back here we have a saying: "When the charity is too much the beggar will be suspicious".

That's the 279€ 1060 for you. I never expected anything else from it, other than the cheapest of the cheap components.

I'm french and planning on upgrading in september. Will the dust will have settled by then?

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i'm wonder should i go for 470 4 gb or 480 8 gb or 1070 still don't know wich is better for me till i jump to 4k in end of 2018

Get it quick

http://www.ebuyer.com/753949-sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx470-8gb-gddr5-dvi-d-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11256-02-20g

Planning to get a 1080 from the site that is determined cheapest via my local price matching sites. The cheapest not-shit variants are both at the 750€ and those are the evga ftw (which looks atrocious imho) and the asus strix. Which one lads? Or should i wait for the price to come down?
>tfw best card gigabyte xtreme gayman (only one with triple 100mm fans) is only sold in the premium pack here which cost 870 fucking eurocucktokens

>>55920297
if you care about that you should go for 1070

basically waiting until Red Devil or MSI versions of RX480 are available in this shithole that can't even qualify as a european country.

Turkey

>>55916652
Go for evga their step up thing is unbeatable to upgrade in the future.

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>furies are small they said

The exo toaster was only going to be a temporary home for it, but still...

>>55920235

>219£ = 260€

Not that large of a difference tbqh. Only 10€ more on mindfactory

>>55916155
The cooling of my GTX 460 has started to make weird noises, so i'll probably update to a zotac gtx 1060 once the prices are back to normal.

>>55920368
Care about what? The Triple 100mm fans? I have considered it, but i feel that down the line i would regret not getting a 1080 since i'm planning to get a ultrawide 1440p monitor.

The 1060 and 480 are pretty close in price and performance, to be honest i'm really tempted to wait a little and put down an extra £50 on the 1060Ti or 490 if they ever come out.

Then again, part of me feels i should just pull the gun on the 1060 or 480 right now to avoid components spiking in price over the next few months.

>>55920527
470 4GB is the only reasonable option right now.

Everything else is massively overpriced.

>>55917442
>They can't optimize for Pascal without optimizing for Maxwell aswell
I'm sure they'll find a way

>>55916484
Shit I gor a R390 Sapphire and it's not on their site anymore. If aI could get a refund I'd go for that too.

>>55919933
why is it so cheap? russia is supposed to be under economic blockade.

>>55917148
Nvidia is just waiting to drop the GTX 1050 3GB

>>55920875
>believing political phrases
Lel

>>55920989
>2.75GB
Fixed

>>55919933
wtf i love russia now

>>55916155
out of depression i bought 2 r9 285 instead of 470

>>55919248
you could have gotten a r9 290 for 150€ lol

>>55916188
maybe because the 4 extra GB RAM cost 50 bucks? lol

European people..
Hahahahahahaha yeah you mean Muslims and Isis supporters right? Unless a jihad simulator has been released Europe doesn't need any graphics cards.

Gonna order Palit GeForce GTX 1060 tired of waiting 2 weeks for a RX 480

>>55921582
Go get a soda murifat. No one takes you seriously with clowns like trump running for president.

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I think i cant wait anymore. Gonna buy a palit gtx1070 (despite hating Nvidia) or something as amd's vega cards are still a long wait away it seems. Maybe i sell the 1070 then and switch to the 490 or fury x2 or whatever its called. The prices are a horror though. Nearly 500€ on mindfactory when my 390pcs+ costed 340€ at launch. I hate Europe so much

>>55916155
> so poor i still roll with gtx 660ti

>>55921982
Wait you don't want to pay the premium for goysync. At least to know what the 490 and 1080ti offers.
What gpu do you have that you can't wait?
Maybe take a brake from gpu threads to avoid the massive shilling for both companies.
>>55922413
That's not that bad.

>>55921982
what's your current card?

>>55918005
Source kind anon?

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>>55918418
>the video card ACTUALLY HAS A JEW STAR ON IT
lmao amd users confirmed for jewd

>>55916155
I'm buying EVGA's GTX1080 SC next week, for like $900. Poland is terribly expensive.

If the Finnish state treats me well soon, I might be looking at an upgrade to GTX 1070. How's the MSI G1 Gayming Doritos edition? It was something like 460€ on Mindfactory. Mostly interested in noise and temperatures, unless the card is somehow severely underperforming when compared to different brands and versions.

I'd like to buy a gtx 1060, but since rx 480 basically has better stats I'll trust that trough driver updates it will be a better option for the future.

>>55923894
I my go RX 470 MSI gaming X I understand the Sapphire Nitro is only £10 more but Sapphire is terrible returns wise.

>>55923995
I never understood this meme. Is Sapphire responsible for the returns of broken products? The store I buy from handles warranty and such issues as far as I know.

>>55924380
The store is responsible for a certain period, maybe 1 year or two years. Then it's off to Hungary, their speed at getting their shit together can be abysmal.

Not everything is a "meme".

>>55924428
Of course but usually if the card performs well for a year or two it's got no issues and you won't have to return it anyway.
And yes, everything is a meme these days

>>55924476
But it might do and sadly I can't be arsed returning it cross borders.

Anons what are you ordering?

>>55921216

Where?

>>55919311
Dude it's a 120W low end card. Performance isn't low end, but 120W for a video card is really stupid low.

>>55925459
A Gainward 1060 since the AIB 470's are not in stock until god knows when and they are pretty overpriced right now. RX 480 also seems to be nonexistent until September.

>>55927829
Actually it's not the star of Solomon but Ramphen.

>>55916155
>Any europoors here about to buy a GPU?
EVGA 1060 SC for 300€, should come in on Monday. There also was the MSI Gaming (non-X) for 302€ on Amazon which has a nice cooler.

The 1060 is tempting because it's that little bit more powerful than the 480... but if Vulcan and DX12 really take off the 480 might be that little bit more powerful than the 1060

Real tough decision. Of course the real world difference is typically around 10% but that 10% can make the difference between a stable 60fps or not.

>>55927946
Well the 1060 has some OC margin and performs roughly as the 480 in DX12. If it's some small difference, you can just OC and not bother. The kicker is if we see some "DOOM under Vulkan"-tier of improvements where a OC won't bridge the massive gap in performances.

I'm going to buy a MSI GTX 750Ti OC 2GB for around 120€ from Amazon.it, but I still have to check other sites, I could find it for lower prices. I want to use it to play old fps games at high perf on a Asus VG248QE screen.

>>55928062
Literally the RX 460 on the 8th. It's the week-end, you're waiting for 3 days, not 3 months.

>>55928087
I'm not looking for a heating system.

>>55928120
It doesn't have a blower but a single fan and runs off the PCI-E slot.

>>55928120

>rx460
>a fucking 75w tdp card will be a heater

You know, you could have just said you're not interested in amd cards, and that way you would not sound like a shill

>>55928137
MSI 750Ti Twin Frozr OC has two fans and runs off the PCI-E slot as well.

>>55928158
And performs about half as well, if 470 and 480 are anything to judge by.

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>>55928158
>Twin Frozr OC
>On a card that literally looks like this
And is an old ass card that performs like shit. Well if you can't to wait for three days on a week-end...

Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming

>>55928195
>>55928189
I can wait for a weekend, I'm just worried that a RX 460 or 470 might cost too much for what I actually need and that it might have issues with the system I have in mind: http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/dnhhgL
Also the Asus VG248QE doesn't have a Display Port.

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>>55928307
>75W causing issues with a 550W supply
What.
>Pairing a 300€ monitor with a 120€ GPU
What.
>Also the Asus VG248QE doesn't have a Display Port
>Pic related
And even if it was the case, neither does the 750Ti.

Probably better you revise your build if you're really on a budget, doesn't make much sense unless you're planning to upgrade in a year or something. But even then, the 750Ti for 120 is jewing.

>>55918005
>I'm glad you're happy, anon, but as somebody who recently sold a 780
Well I recently sold my 780ti and you're an idiot, I got a great deal on it and it served me well.

>This is just delusional. There are major differences between the two
No, lol, there isn't, you are just tech illiterate
People who actualy know what they are talking about have researched it and came to my conclusion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDaekpMBYUA

>>55928371
I'm not talking about PSU alone. I'm not on a budget, I could easily spend even 300€ for a card if it was worth the money. I was oriented towards a GTX 750Ti simply because I already know that it runs my fav games very well, it works great with the CPU I chose and it has DVI and HDMI ports which I can connect to my screen easily.

>>55923682
About the same place as here in >poortugal

Will go for a MSI GTX 1060 since I only really use a 1920x1200 screen and don't see myself going 4k for another 4 years, so it should hold out untill then on ultra or worst case no shadows, antialiasing, DoF or other postprocessing fx.

>>55928307

You're thinking of the XL2411z.

>>55928441
>I'm not on a budget
>That part list
Then don't buy a 750Ti that's objectively shit and expensive for what it is. If your games have CS:GO level of fidelity and you're aiming for 144FPS, then this is more than enough. Add a RX 460 when it comes out.
>http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/TYnPnn

If you want to use what you've put here...
>http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/dnhhgL
Put a better card in there, put a decent MOBO too.

>>55928500
>>55928441
>http://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/dnhhgL
Bleh, forgot the PSU but whatever. You'll be fine with a 450W.

>>55916155
I buy all of my stuff from alternate.de

Been a loyal customer for over 10 years. Prices are good and never had problems.

>>55928529
shill harder Pajeet

>>55928543
It's just the truth m8.

>>55928458

>Poortugal

Now I only order from this shithole of a country when I need the parts quickly. Order from germany instead.
Computeruniverse for instance, has the evga 1080's for 750-800€, and even with their paypal tax + shipping (8+12), it's still cheaper than buying here. I bought from them a few times already, and everything went well

>>55928529
They have good customer service, my headphones broke within warranty and I send them back free of charge to them.
I got the full purchase price refunded as they didn't have that model in stock longer, they're really quick to reply to emails.

Mindfactory has better prices for PC hardware most of the time but they undercut prices by like 0,01€ with their other 4 shops to shit up price check sites.

>>55916155

buying an evga 1060 sc next month from digitec.ch, 359 chfs

>>55928630
>330€
Might as well splurge for a MSI Republic of Jewers. 300€ top for a EVGA SC. Can't your order from Germany?

>>55928404
This is better because he is helping to create and easy DX12/Vulkan benchmarking method so all those lazy fucking review sites don't have an excuse not to bench DX12/Vulkan properly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RRgs51J5FY

>>55928664

I can, but that comes with mad duty, and the evga is small for my micro atx case.

Europoor here. (Norway)

I was initially waiting for an AMD 480 RX, but the prices were absolutely retarded for such a mediocre card.

I simply upgraded all the parts in my PC build list and went 1 level higher, with GTX 1070 and 1080p 144Hz setup.

Good stuff, thanks for keeping Nvidia prices low, AMD.

>>55928681
Dunno, I am >>55927942 and felt 300€ was the max for such a card, even counting in our now legendary French taxes. Surprised it'd be more expensive in Switzerland. However I also feel completely stupid to have a Fractal R4 now that I'm gonna get a small card. At least I've put more HDDs and a CD drive in it.

Guys, what about warranties when you order from another Europoorian country (Germany), say Mindfactory?

>>55928724
They should honour it, but I think you'll have to cover the shipping cost.

Will 1080s ever drop below 700€ lads?

>>55928701

things just cost more in the suisse, but wages are higher here, so it's probably around the same cost for the gpu vs cost of living, when buying domestically, you can ignore exchange rates for the most part, I'd rather get it in Switzerland since I get the 2 year warranty as standard.

God damn those prices, Germany sure is getting raped.
/g/ is much more cheaper in Switzerland.

>>55928500
>>55928526
Doesn't 16 GB RAM provide better performance for the GPU? Why no SSD? I already have an external 1TB HDD. What is wrong with my mobo? Is 450W PSU enough? Why that CPU?

>>55928905
>Doesn't 16 GB RAM provide better performance for the GPU?
Nope, you must be confusing that with something else. GPU RAM and system RAM aren't the same things.
>Why no SSD?
I like SSDs, but if you're planning to play only old ass shooters it won't make much of a difference.
>What is wrong with my mobo?
It's cheap for the processor you're planning to pair it with, which is why I said it doesn't make much sense.
>Is 450W PSU enough?
More than enough, but if you have a good price on a 550W or higher PSU you can get one.
>Why that CPU?
Because you said you were planning to play old FPS. If you were planning to play the Witcher 3 or something I wouldn't recommend it.

>>55928681
duty? what duty? you are not EU?
Or are you talking tax ? It is possible to deduct VAT even from another EU country, which makes the end-price 15-20% lower (depending on which country we are talking about).
E.g. Germany has 19% VAT which you can claim from your country if you know someone (or someone's parents) who own a small business. You just need to have an invoice issued for the said company.

>>55928952
I mostly play Team Fortress 2 and Fistful of Frags now, but I mean to play also Chivalry Medieval Warfare and Garden Warfare 2 in the future. These games are CPU instense, which is the reason why I thought of a i5 6500. My inital mobo was the Asus H110 M-A, but it's not available on Amazon.it anymore. The i5 6500 should work well on the Asus mobo. Doesn't SSD make load times faster also for these games? Doesn't 16 GB RAM improve CPU performance?

>>55929029

Switzerland is not part of the EU. That being said, isn't it part of the Schengen agreement?

>>55929072
>These games are CPU instense
If your CPU is a toaster. These games are made to be ran by a lot of people.
>Doesn't 16 GB RAM improve CPU performance?
No. More RAM helps if you fill it out, which won't happen with this games because they're light.
>Doesn't SSD make load times faster also for these games?
No benefit in a arena shooter. You load exactly once, and that's at the beginning of each game.

Seriously, read these in the "Game Builds" section.
>http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/csgo

Your build doesn't make much sense.

>>55929086
Yes, Switzerland is part of Schengen, but that's irrelevant in our case.
What is relevant is that, while not in the EU, it is part of the EFTA (European Free Trade Association), which is a special case.
In general, the duty for all products between the EU and Swtizerland should be 0%.

BUT, if you want to "import" from the EU and not pay duty, the origin of the product must be verified with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EUR.1_movement_certificate .

Beside from not paying duty, you should be eligible to get that 19% german VAT back.
So if the GTX1060 costs 300 euro (incl. VAT), if you manage to deduct the VAT it would total you 252,10 euros in the end.

t. accounting MSc

>>55929122
>>55929072
8GB vs 16GB RAM:
>http://www.techspot.com/article/1043-8gb-vs-16gb-ram/page3.html

Also, an example of modern game that is incredibly CPU intensive is GTA V. Does any of the game in your list look as pretty as GTA V? Does any of the game in your list is a wide-open sandbox like GTA V? No? Then you don't need a i5 6500. It won't hurt, but it's not required.

If you were building a 1080p/60FPS on most games, including GTA V, The Witcher 3 and pretty and or intensive modern games, then I'd recommend a 6500 with a RX 480 or a GTX1060 (excellent category of Logical Increments, top right to change the country). Obviously you'd also completely max out games like Team Fortress 2 twice if not thrice over in the process too. But your build looks like a mix and match of some sorts, with cheaper than cheap GPU for jew prices, cheap MOBO, great CPU and PSU and a somewhat decent screen. All that while you claimed that you're not on a budget. I can't really wrap my head around it.

I want to upgrade from a 560ti. What's the best cheap card that will give me noticeable improvement?

>>55929327
What do you plan to play and at which resolution and framerate? What do you already have?

>>55929122
>>55929229
I'm attempting to build my first computer, then I'm sure that I still need to learn a lot about components and their logic. Thank you very much for the help though. The only component of my new build which isn't reversable is the screen, because I've already got it as a gift for my birthday. I can change my mind about every other component though. What I need is a pc that allows me to play those games at quite a high fps, so that I can benefit (if not wholly, at least partly) from the specs of my monitor. I'm not interested into good graphics, then I don't mean to reach high fps at max settings: I could play at mid or even low settings if it's necessary.

>>55918418
This. Might as well wait for vega this December.

>>55929554
But you're not on a budget correct? Then no point going for uber cheap stuff just because you can get away with it. Might as well spend that money (inb4 shilling) and go for maximum comfort, unless you're dead set on not playing any modern games with that build.

Honestly, look at your budget, go to
>http://www.logicalincrements.com/
Or/and >>55925289 for "opinions".

>>55929602
>>55929554
Choose your country in the upper right corner, under the "Announcement" message.

>>55929602
>>55929622
Thank you, I didn't notice that there was an active Build Thread. I'll check that site as well. Well, to say the truth, I'm really not interested on more recent games than Garden Warfare 2 so far, even though I can't absolutely rule out the possibility that I will play a modern game in the future....

>>55916155
I'm concerned that at OC the power draw of an MSI RX 470 is pretty shit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-amd-radeon-rx-470-review

I saw Sapphire Nitro+ 480 4GB for some 230€ or 8GB for 270. Should I go for it? They don't actually have it in shop yet apparently it is just preorder only for now so I am not sure how legit it is.

1070s at reasonable prices when?

>>55929862
4GB is fine for 1080P, but if it's on preorder I wouldn't.

I still wish the 480 could have matched the 1060 with a decent OC in RotTR. Even with the new AMD drivers it still lags slightly. It seems that that game and TW3 are really joined to Nvidia at the hip.

What gpu would serve a 120hz 1440p screen?
>>55929973
It has about 40% better performance in dx11 and cost 38% more in my country... Nvidia charges the prices they can bc of amds poor decision not to release a flagship in 2016.

>>55921091
nICE mEME xD

>>55930293
>implying
Vega is still supposed to come out in October last I checked, likely because HBM2 has limited availability and AMD didn't want to make a flagship card with GDDR5 based tech in 2016.

Help.
I have budged ~$120, and I'm looking to get GTX950.
Should I get the basic model or overclocked Asus Strix which is around ~$10 more expensive.
Or should I get anything other? Buying in czechia.

>>55916155

Just ordered an R9 Nano Fury on sale for my mITX because I can't wait for Vega and fuck jewvidia and their years of jewry.

>>55930293
>What gpu would serve a 120hz 1440p screen?
Bump

>>55930902
eh yeah you bought a nano fury..
>nano
>fury
pick one

2 (note: new, on sale) asus r9 nanos for 700€ or a single 1080 for 750€?

>>55916155
I got this card for 329 Euro from alternate. There were only a few 1060s in stock at legit stores and I was already ordering almost a whole pc from them anyway.

Upgraded from a q6600, 4GB RAM and a 560 TI that had died to a i5-6600k, 16GB RAM, this card and also got myself a Noctua cooler and a 500GB SSD. feelsgoodman

>>55931710

Nano uses a binned Fiji chip aka 'Fury' chip you fucking imbecile

>>55920527
>1060Ti
They won't make this if the 490 competes with a 1070.

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What GPU should I get, I'm getting a full new pc soon after sitting with my old shitbox since forever.
Sitting between the 1060 and 1070 mostly.
If anyone has some suggestions they are very much appreciated

Hnngh, getting some free money next week, might spend around 400-500€ on a new card. Would the GTX 1070 be the best for that price range? Gonna upgrade to a new monitor in December and been looking at the Dell Ultrasharp U2515H, seems pretty sweet and an alright AH-IPS panel for gaming. Not playing that many twitch shooters anymore, but I do play FPS games but I don't think I'm gonna go for 144hz over fidelity and colors, since I do a little bit of image editing on the side for fun. Seems like the 1070 is good for 1440p gaming, and I'm not really looking for the absolute best graphics all the time, I can easily kick down AA and other not so important stuff for a better framerate.

>>55931944
There are people who seriously buy into this R9 nano meme? I mean for god's sake this card is worse than 980 while costing more atm.

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Didn't do this since 2008.

How much did i fuck up?

>>55933921
- make sure you take 6600K not just 6600, otherwise it's pointless to have an expensive cooler.

- That 520 Watt Seasonic meme is pretty garbage, Seasonic is ultra shit to begin with and for that money you can get a fucking modular EVGA PSU.

- eh/10 case but w/e, your choice.

- ASrock is pretty garbage too. Get a decent MSI/ASUS in same price.

>>55933999
Well, case is supposed to hold this shit togheter and i don't want it to be center of attention. If it fits i don't really care.

Also I don't think i'll overclock, so i would propably ditch the cooler, should i still invest in better motherboard?

>>55934033
Link me the website you're ordering from and I'll give you few suggestions. Thankfully I still remember a tiny bit of German language.

>>55934070
>>55934033
Nvm found it. Give me few minutes.

>>55934114
Thank you very much mate

>>55934123
https://geizhals.de/intel-core-i5-6600k-cm8066201920300-a1261897.html

12 Euro extra. You should always OC your hardware btw, if you don't know wtf you're doing just don't touch voltage and it becomes fool proof.

https://geizhals.de/msi-z170-a-pro-7971-013r-a1325629.html

1 Euro less, pretty much same specs but better reliability and 3.1 USB support

https://geizhals.de/evga-500b-bronze-500w-atx-2-3-100-b1-0500-kr-a975976.html

5 EURO less, although both PSUs are bronze certified, I personally trust EVGA more, on the other hand SeaSonic has 20W more to it so it's up to you mate.

You could maybe save up like 5 Euro extra to get a tiny bit cheaper RAM with same specs but really it's w/e.

Your 1070 is just a shitty ref cooler with some fans glued on it and no extra pins so don't expect some amazing OC capability but I can't blame you, it's still very much cheapest and most decent looking cooler in its price range. Good choice.

The cooler is decent so overall you add 6 EURO to get better PSU/MOBO/OC capable CPU.

As for case I can't honestly think of anything better than 200R in this price so ye good choice.

That's pretty much it.

>>55934355
Are you sure you're not trolling? Seasonic is generally agreed to be pretty much the gold standard for high-quality PSUs. Not to mention that many of the EVGA PSUs are, in fact, manufactured by Seasonic.

>>55934355
Also friendly reminder SSDs have tendency to come without any cables so make sure you have a decent spare one left or buy one. I also assume you'll just slap your old HDD from previous PC into the new rig. Extra space doesn't hurt.

>>55934355
Thank you very much once again.

When i woke up today i didn't think i would spend all of my savings to return to master race, but oh well, i'll propably be a father in 9 months so it's propably the last good moment to do this.

>>55934425
Yep, i have about 1TB storage on old drives, and i don't need more for now.

I'll propably also sell my zenbook and buy something cheaper, it was my gaming PC for the last two years, and i don't need it for dev and everyday stuff that much now.

>>55934421
Honestly senpai I preferred old Corsair and Cooler Master but nowadays they use shitty Chinese capacitors in anything that costs less than 100 quid. Never trusted Seasonic, overpriced garbage that personal experience has tendency to be as reliable as any other PSU in that price range. Honestly when it comes to PSUs price > manufacturer.

I bought a 1070 cause AMD is shit

>>55934488
480RX 4GB is a very good option for people looking for anything in $200 range although it's a little bit bios gimped so it takes some few extra steps to be as good as the 8GB version (There shouldn't be a difference in performance since on paper those cards only have different amounts of VRAM - AMD being jews that they're gimped 4GB version via BIOS). I wouldn't compare them to 1070 thought, that card costs two times more and is waaay faster.

>>55934429

You should also look into different options for monitors so you might spend some extra money on proper PSU and case however I'm not gonna give you advice in that department as I have no idea about gsync monitors.

>>55933921
Anon you realize you pay over 100 euro extra for a 21Hz difference?

>>55920875
>implying Russia gives a fuck about any blockades

>>55934684
You mean PG278Q ? Sorry, i had IPS on my laptop for a while now and i can't image going back to TN panel.

>have r9 290, i5 2500k, and 1440p monitor
>play battlefield 4, witcher 3, gta v
>considering 390x, 980, 980ti, 1060, or 480
okay so, the best card is obviously the 980ti, but it's almost the most expensive. 980 and 390x are similar in price and performance, but 980 runs cooler but less vram. 1060 is better than 480 in most tests by a few percent, but also more expensive by like 30%

help

>>55935258
also most expensive*

in my area (Canuckistan), there's multiple used 980Tis ranging from $400 to $500, and 390x and 980 around $300, whereas the cheapest 1060 and rx480 is $360

>>55935258
The difference between 290 and 390x is like 10% so I'm not entirely sure why would you want to upgrade right away.

>>55935306
well, a 10% fps bump would put me over 60fps at 1440p in most games, but obviously it's not worth it. I'm more considering a used 980Ti, but if I can't get one for ~$400, I rather just wait and get a 1070 for $500 in a few months (hopefully that's where they'll settle at)

thinking to upgrade to an r7 360 OC from an geforce 210

yay nay?

>>55935409
no. idk how much a 360 is, but I can't imagine it's much cheaper than a 460. I also don't know how a 360 performs, but a 460 will probably be 280x performance and use barely any power

>>55935445
release dates on it? googling it right now and didn't find a date yet

>>55933999
>That 520 Watt Seasonic meme is pretty garbage, Seasonic is ultra shit to begin with

Is this the contrarian /g/ I keep hearing so much about?

>>55935493
august 8th supposedly, but if you've had a gf210 that long, surely you can wait a few weeks?

got a 980ti, not replacing it until vega comes out

>>55935516
sure, ty

>>55935522
If you are 1080p you have no reason to buy anything this or the next year.

>>55935522
as someone who hasn't bought a new gpu since 2010, do you ever regret buying a flagship card? a year later and you can get a 980ti for half of what it cost new, and now your flagship card is legacy and won't receive many updates

>>55935547
run 4k bruh

>>55935550
doesn't bother me no, im not playing anything super demanding right now

So are there any games that require more than 8 GB RAM? Should i buy cheapeast 16 GB i can get or maybe fastest 8GB?

Is the Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming a good GTX 1070 card? It's cheaper than other cards in most shops. Mainly interested in noise and cooling.

Is GTX 1060 for 280€ a good deal?
Is GTX 1060 good for playing fps games at 1920x1080 res on a 144 Hz screen?

>>55933999
Show me that magical modular EVGA PSU you can get for that little money.

>>55935729
its a pretty ok deal for Europe imho. Cheapest 1060 in Bulgaria currently is 330 euro

>>55928743
The clown card was below 700€ to begin with and there was deal on Asus blower card (not FE) for 669€ on mindfactory.

>>55936428
would it be dumb to get one of those cheap plastic blower 1080s and hope someone makes an aftermarket air cooler for it?

>>55923606
>8pin power
Nice Photoshop skills Mr. Pajeet

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>>55938979
The AIB's are 8pin you dodo.

>>55921190
That's what I was thinking about too. I'd like you to tell how those cards are working out for you. Here's my steam profile http://steamcommunity.com/id/0tik

bought an ASUS GTX 970 from Amazon

I checked the German websites but Amazon was actually cheaper

>>55939171
This, Amazon actually has some pretty cheap prices. Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming will be about 466€ when it's stocked on the 10th.

>>55935516
>Implying he ever had any gf

I'm stuck between getting either:
980 Ti
GTX 1060
GTX 1070

From what I heard the 980 Ti blows the 1060 out, I think it's on par with the 1070 and the 1080 is the only one which is marginally better.

Can someone confirm this? Seeing at the 980 Ti is about £400 the GTX 1070 is within the same price point give or take £20.

>>55932522
Duh but it's actual name is simply r9 nano

>>55939566

The 980 Ti puts out more frames, but the 10XX cards are more efficient with energy and temps.

>>55939825
Even more than a 1070?

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>>55939833
I would like to know this also

What is wrong with me.

>>55939120
i bought them on ebay-kleinanzeigen for 100 and 115€ each, the smaller footprint xfx variant

1 is arriving on monday and the other on friday probably. gonna tell you about my stories

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>>55939566

Or you could just get a 1080.

Just got a 1060 because it's the cheapest here and most 480's are way more than they should be.

I'm a cheap fuck, so I guess I'll see how it is. Performance from my 7950 should be pretty noticeable.

>>55941076

Congratulations on your new purchase.

I can't wait to get my new card this month but I'm still decisive about if I could go 1060 or be cheeky and get the 1070.

I want to match or beat the last gens best card so I can play at 2k at least above 60 fps, I'm worried the 1060 will dip more however.

>>55941184
If you have the spare cash, I'd say go 1070. I went 1060 because I'm still at 1080p, and I figure that will be fine for a while on the 1060. But if you want to start hitting higher res's, going beyond would probably be a good idea.

Is there any store with the 4GB Nitro+ in stock?

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>cheapest GTX 1060 is US$410

>>55943993
Where?
Prices for 1070 are finally coming down to that $400 point btw.

>>55939566
>>55939833
>>55940355

Most bench says that 980Ti when OC is neck and neck, maybe lost by no more than 3% to the 1070. Nvidya shill reviewers used ref 980ti on stock speed that's thermal throttled to compare the 1070 against it. AIB performance on the 980Ti makes going to 1070 not too enticing unless if you can get an AIB 1070 at MSRP.

Is there a card similar to gtx750ti, with nearly the same power comsuption and cost but more modern and performant?

>>55944100
In Bulgaria the cheapest 1070 is 500 euro.

Bringing this thread to life. Considering european prices (amazon.de, caseking.de), what is the best option right now? I need GPU desperately and will probably order today. Can spend up to 370-400€. Is it worth getting 480 considering the 470? Or 480 prices are still shit?

1060 is kinda out of the question because 480 should be performing better in the future.

>>55944100
Cheapest 1070 is about £400, which is kind of like... fine, i could consider one of those. But i kind of feel uncomfortable spending that much on a GPU.

The £250-300 range feels like a safer bet for me is all. So i'm kind of hoping the 490 comes out at around 300-325

>>55944683
>quid
I feel bad for you in a way lad.

>>55922413
kek, still using my palit 550 ti nigga

Sapphire 470 8GB for 269€ + shipping

Is this price ridiculous?

>>55916188
Don't buy AMD unless you have a high end cpu, It doesn't scale good on older hardware.

Is buying a GTX 1080 a mistake?

All I want is 60 FPS at 1440p for the next few years and all the benchmarks are showing like this is the one. But that price point is a bit hard to stomach.

What cpu plus motherboard do I get for a r9 390?

>>55944863
The same cost can buy you a GTX1060 with twice the performance.

https://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90662036/manli-geforce-gtx1060.asp

>>55944891
a good i7 with compatible decent mobo

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>>55944895
>twice the performance
Epic meme, friend.

>>55944878
>nvidia
>for the next few years
>gimpvidia

Nothing's futureproof when it comes to gpu's but nvidia actively gimps their non-current cards, as soon as the 1180 rolls in in one year the 1080 will be slowly become weaker than an rx 480. Just get a 1060 or a 480, never spend over $300 on a gpu.

>>55945324
Doesn't this include AMD founded benchmarks like AotS and Hitman?

Is 1060 really the go to card for 1080p?

>>55923739
NEET? god I hate those weasels with no contribution to society.

>>55945366

Yes, and also gameworks titles, so the tables are even for both sides.

>>55923739
Remember that a 1070 is a crippled 1080 chip and always go for evga I don't think any other company offers the step up plan.

>>55945717
The 480 will age better since its better in dx12 titles. And if you play at 60Hz in 1080p then yes.

>>55916155
Got an offer for a Classified Ti 81 ASIC for 380 €. I'm thinking... The others want 400+ while 1070s are 420+ NEW now, and I don't want a shit ASIC card.

>>55916484
Mikä kauppa

>>55946786
veikkaan jimmsiä

>>55946329
what is a 'step up plan'?

>>55944683
Cheapest 1070 is £359.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2-geforce-gtx-1070-reference-blower-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-70nsh6dhk6vk-gx-090-kf.html

Complete with fedora tipper on it.

>waiting for rx 460
>it's 750ti tier
fuck
and i bet it will also cost a lot more than a 750ti

I bought a Fury X recently and it killed my entire PC

>pooland (not india, poland)
>assemble new rig on partpicker
>price in english amount to 900$
>check prices in polish vendors
>its FUCKING 1050$
fuck this shit

>>55948963
yes fire kills everything

>on a HD6870
>ordered a GTX 1060
Damn I can't imagine how fast I will go.

>>55948863
>Sells the cheapest gpus
>Complety fucking ruin them by putting clowns and fedoras on them

FUCKING GALAX

Is there a law the cheaper the brand the shittier it has to look?

>>55950169
HIS RX 480.

>>55947009
You can upgrade to another card just paying the price difference of the already bought to the one you want. Excuse my English Google it.

>>55948963
Elaborate

>>55919933
>russians get a 1070 at 100€ less
kill me now, I really want to buy a new system but I can't help but feeling like I'm getting fucking scammed when buying new hardware

Can I travel to burgerland buy a computer there and bring it back with me? Probably cheaper than buying one in yuroip

>>55950169
Sadly, but if it's in your case who knows about it? Apart you, and the secret shame you have a literal fedora tipper in your computer.

>>55950760
Nah, it'll certainly have to pass through customs and you'd have to declare something like that.


FUCK IT! I'm getting a Zotac 1060 amp. 5 year warranty, less power usage, 25% more power for 10-15%more performance isn't worth getting an rx 480 Nitro for me.

>>55950974
Meh I'll try to buy a cpu when I get to the us and take it with me in hand lugage, shits small anyway.

>>55944658
lul, it costs like 460 in Norway of all places

You are getting cucked so hard

>>55951052
Now that's different.

When shipping a graphics card became too complicated I had a friend ship my an i7 and some ram from America.

He's a very good friend who saved me £60+.

>>55951096
Cheapest palit shit 1070 is 420 here

Overclockers UK
Amazon UK
Aria PC
Scan

I already have a 980Ti that's only like 8 months old
I don't need to upgrade just yet

>>55951227
Amazon are pretty good for customer service.

I built a friend a computer and the dickweed delivery driver had left his shit out in the rain, in fucking Wales, in October.

Build it, it sputters, PSU is dead, they pick it up next day and his replacement arrives same day.

>>55951264
Yea I love it
I've returned quite a bit with no questions asked

>>55951399
I was once connecting the front panel and heard a screeching from behind me that startled the piss out of me.

I'd knackered the connector pulling it out.

"Uh, yeah, there's something wrong with the connector"

Got it replaced the next day.

>>55946786
Systemastore

>>55949737
lol thats a bit over 10% increase, thats fucking nothing. And you pay sales tax on top of those parts on US, in most of the states, anyway.

I'll give you a real example of electronics price jewing: nexus 6p costs something like $399 in the states and you get $50 giftcard along with and shit. $399 is 360 euros.

Base 6p costs here 649e.

>>55917346
Been on a fence as what to buy 480 nitro or the fury for 300 quid.

What should I get?

>>55952440
How limited is the offer on the Fury? Because the nitros won't be here for a while.

>>55952571
It doesn't say, it is the one from overclockers.uk

>>55952608
Well if it's from there you might as well wait until the 480s are in as well. You don't want to decided on one when both options will be there in about 3 weeks.

>>55952440
>you're a believer
Buy 480
>you want higher framerates in current and older games
Buy fury