LINUX MARKET SHARE IS ON THE RISE

>>55896762
that is actually pretty large adoption in 2 months, is there a way to view macos?

time to install gentoo

>>55896762
Year of the Linux Desktop is fast approaching lads

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>>55896904
3% isn't a dream anymore

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OP here. I actually moved to Linux because of windows 10.

I'm also thinking of trashing the windows VM altogether. Where should I look to virtualize OSX?

>>55896924
Nowhere
You have to build a hackintosh

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>>55896762
>mfw bought linux stocks just in time

>>55896924
Dont. Virtual mac runs like hot dog shit. They purposely make it shifty if not on a mac

>>55896924
I've been thinking about dual booting OS X and Funtoo. I already have rEFInd set up and everything because I think it's lightyears ahead of GRUB. Just need to actually do it now.

And as far as linux I'm in the same boat as you. Last version of windows was XP, when I built a new PC for 3D rendering I figured "hey this could probably game too" and decided to buy W10. Big mistake. I outright bought it but I still get ads shoved in my face on my start menu and now with the anniversary edition they say ads can't be turned off. What is Microsoft thinking putting ads into a paid product? Forget the tracking, just the ads being built into the OS itself is unacceptable. I gave it a solid try for a few months but I'm on linux now.

>>55896924
Tonymacx86

But seriously OSX requires a decent amount of power - you'd be best just installing it on a partition or another drive.

>>55896968
>Tonymacx86
>you need a computer running 10.6.8 osx at least for this to work
why would i want a hackintosh if i own a mac

>not even 3%
top kek

>>55897039
In my case I have a mac but it's a very old one. Like late-07 Core 2 Duo black polycarbonate body old. I'd much rather run OS X on my beefy year-old desktop PC than the nearly decade old laptop.

how is this calculated? is it mobile? servers? desktop? what happened to the millions of mobile linux users or windows 10 users (as it now comes with ubuntu)

>>55897079
it's calculated by THIS
*unzips*

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>>55896762
>1.79
>2.02
>2.33

Get ready for maximum winblows shitposting /g/, this isn't going to be tolerated by Microdick corporation.

>>55897443
I thought it was already at maximum.

Hold me anon

>>55897487
Remember when Mint became popular on /g/ for a while? The hack occurred right after it was a hot topic around.

Don't be surprise by anything.

H-hold me too!

>>55897542
Remember when it was found out the developers didn't care or know anything about security? Good times.

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Ultra Windowsfag here. I remember when Freetards where claiming The Year of The Linux Desktop since 2005 when Vista came and Ubuntu was a new thing.

It's great that finally Linux broke the 2% marketshare. Too bad all those anti-Linux sites like LHB, Penguin Day and Piestar are already dead, it would be amazing to see the reactions.

Now I am here with you guys who are fucking paranoid and takes everything serious. It fucking sucks.

Anyway, congratz. And congratz to Ubuntu, I bet they still are the most popular distro.

>>55896762
No joke, I switched from 7 to ganoo salsh leenoox because of Windows 10. Debian Sid is absolute comfort.

>>55897708
Thanks brother. 5000 rands have been deposited in your account

>>55896762
>MARKET SHARE
Very misleading.
How is there a "market" for free as in freedom software?

>>55896762
>>55896904
>>55896924
>>55896935
>>55897079
>>55897708
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

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>>55897443

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Good thing linustechtips guy took over the development

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>>55897748
Fuck you in the anus, leftist scum. The free market is the only real motivator of human life improvement, and non-profit organizations and projects are part of it. In a government-controlled scenario, neither Microsoft or freetards would be free to go on a quest for the best OS in their opinions using the methods and licenses they feel fit for it.

Many Libertarians actually support Linux since they don't believe in copyright (since it's not scarce, it can't be considered a property).

>>55896762
and we barely just hit 2% too. maybe this shit really is exponential.

I think 10% will be the real kicker here. that'll be when we're too big for devs to ignore, and desktop linux enters the mainstream consciousness.

>>55897783
>Many Libertarians actually support Linux since they don't believe in copyright
Linux is licensed under the GPL which _depends_ on copyright law.

>>55897783
there is no successful libertarian country
there is no successful libertarian politician
nobody gives a shit
kill yourself

>>55897811
>there is no successful libertarian country
Somalia

>>55897811
Medieval Iceland is looking at you, son

2017 year of the linux desktop!

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>>55897443
Prepare your anus.

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>>55896762
>Several friends already trying out Linux on their laptops because win 10 is disgusting
>They love it

It's definitely on an uptrend.
Microcock wants their walled garden and market share at the expense of their consumers. So fuck 'em.

>>55897825
>Failed state
>libertarian
Nice one, next you can post some pictures of American pot holes while talking about roads

>>55897848
they'll run into a host of issues, inevitably

I want you to talk to your friends and make absolutely god damn sure they understand that their participation is vital to the platform's continued improvement

>30% market share increase from May to July
How can Windows even compete?

>>55897825
Amusingly Somalia is actually a failed socialist state and the situation for the citizens there improved slightly when the government collapsed and the 10 or so warlords effectively took over.

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Man I can't blame them. I'm basically keeping myself from wiping my windows 7 entirely and just dual booting.

It runs better, is less prone to Bullshit, and probably the best part is it is easy to make look good.

Ive given up trying to rice windows 7. Aero just makes it impossible imo. Firefox looks like dogs hit no matter what you do if using a non Aero custom theme.

>>55896762
I call 3% before the end of the year.

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>born too late to explore the earth
>born too early to explore the galaxy
>born just in time for the year of the Linux desktop

>>55897848
I'm currently on Linux thanks to the Anniversary Update. I'm waiting out to see what else MS fucked up and if it's worth updating or leaving windows update disabled for good.

My only complaints with Linux are that keepass2 & keefox don't work, and that all music players are total shit. Other minor issues have been relatively easy to fix.

>>55897930
New pasta has born.

>>55896762
my laptop would turn itself randomly and it would install the update. also most of the updates would break my windows as it would be stuck at loading the login screen. fuck you microshit
i removed it completely and now i'm on lm 18 mate
since there is csgo for linux i'm not gonna install wangblows ever again

>>55897762
Fuck off GNU/faggot. Nobody gives a shit!

Will be using Ubuntu on my next build.

Ms has gone too far with the ads and tracking.

>>55897762
linux on android uses no gnu utilities

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>>55897877
Amazing how you're so determined to say something like that yet you and others can't convince any of the others here to use Linux without unleashing autistic fools to constantly bash on other OSes. Eventually, it will all come crashing down on him and his friends when they get a full dose of harsh critics for using one specific Distribution OS soon.

>>55898077
It uses GCC to compile the kernel

Checkmate atheists

>>55898085
And even if they are using more then one...they'll get bored and turn around. Everyone comes back to Windows with their tail between their legs and feel the generic , but standard, comfort of Microsoft.

>>55898085
sure thing mate

don't mind us we're barely hitting 3% anyway right

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the people, are, like _totally_ waking up to the corporate shenanigans that plague the lives of like a least a few million

>>55898112
There is nothing comforting about Microsoft.

>>55897959
Is it true that they made it impossible to disable those start menu ads? I've been too afraid to boot into windows to check.

>>55898168
You don't have anything to be afraid of.

Currently on Linux because Windows is trying to kill my hard drive. Every time it accesses a file it spins up the drive, and the instant the file is read it shuts off the hard drive. It ends up doing this many times per second when it gets really bad. And when it shuts it off, it makes that sound that hard drives make if you just pull the plug on the computer while it's running. A huge click then a whine. That can't be healthy for my drive. No idea what Win10's problem is. None of the linux distros I've tried do this. Neither do older versions of Windows. I'm happy on Linux but I don't like the thought of having Windows on here if it's trying to eat my hard drive and I can't bring myself to completely erase it after spending money on it (last version of windows was XP).

>>55898168
AFAIK you can remove the suggested apps on the start menu and the lock screen. What you can't disable is the lock screen, and now you can't set cortana to not log everything you do, your only option is to outright disable it. There are some other minor changes that may or may not cause an autistic reaction.

The other feature I was actually looking forward to, being able to use extensions on Edge, requires you to login to a MS account. What the fuck, MS. It's like you don't want me to use your OS.

>>55898208
That's what the glowing words said during the W10 upgrade.

The glowing words were wrong anon.

They were wrong.

>>55898142
>mate

Yeah sure thing...a good thing too. Mate.

Is Linux the "Unknown" OS here?
http://gs.statcounter.com/#desktop-os-ww-monthly-201507-201607


>>55898168
It's true. Well, you can remove them, but they can come back later at any time.

>>55898149
If you say so. Oh wait I forget this is /g/ you guys will run with anything. Microsoft is comforting whether you like it or not.

It's our year la.

>>55898220
I also love linux
i could browse and sort my gay/horse porn collection in public because there are no thumbnails. also all desktop environments looks like made by 12year old, so it doesnt really catch public eyes

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>s-see guys linux has 2% m-market share! its g-great system!!

>>55898230
You... can't use extensions without signing into an account? Could they get any more obvious/retarded? Like I can almost understand limiting DX12 to W10, but limiting extensions to people who have accounts with you? Idk why but that seems way more scummy.

>>55898144
jewfu

>>55898262
>no thumbnails
wrong
>desktop environment made by 12 year olds
what are themes

>>55898271
>>55898262
>>55898258
>>55898112
disregard shill posts

obvious damage control

>>55897708
>Now I am here with you guys who are fucking paranoid and takes everything serious. It fucking sucks.
You don't have to stay here. You could always fuck off back to /b/ or /v/ where idiots take nothing seriously. Why remain where you don't fit in?

>>55896762
Lately I see a lot of people buying apple laptops. Seems like they abandon windows because windows is now the worst operating system.. oh wait.. wasn't it shit even before 10?

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>>55898168
No. The same goes for live tiles, you can just unpin them all.

>>55898236
HOL UP, I actually tried Windows 10 and reverted but specifically remember something like this are you joking or did they seriously write this?

>>55898271
fist they ignore you
then they laugh a you
then they fight you
then you win

I think we're nearing the "fight" part y'all

>>55898410
You can't disable cortana either any more.

>>55898442
Microsoft has been fighting GNU and Linux for years, they've just had a relatively strong hold on the desktop market. They've been soundly beaten in basically every other area.

>>55898446
>changing region setting where Cortana isn't enabled by default
>NOT HAVING A MICROSOFT ACCOUNT
>Not looking for tutorials on how to disable it if you can't do the above

Of course you can't disable it if one or more of the conditions above are true because she won't be enabled in the first place.

>>55898499
Didn't receive the memo, huh? You're not allowed to not have a M$ account anymore. Your license is revoked otherwise.

>>55898525
Are you fucking kidding me? I have 2 PCs with the damn anniversary update installed and none of them are logged in via a Microsoft account.

They're still both activated with digital entitlement. Guess you didn't read the article that thoroughly, huh?

Also I'm not the only one
>>55897076
>>55897077
>>55897607

>>55898563
YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE

>>55896924

Dont. Even apple devs build hackintoshes.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>55898590
Do they really?

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>>55896762
Microsoft is supporting and making money off of Linux development.

Hell, you can host RHEL straight out of Azure now, and C# is open-source and cross-platform.

Red Hat and Canonical (Ubuntu) already joined Microsoft's .NET Foundation.

>>55898601
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Many users do not understand the difference between the kernel, which is Linux, and the whole system, which they also call “Linux”. The ambiguous use of the name doesn't help people understand. These users often think that Linus Torvalds developed the whole operating system in 1991, with a bit of help.

Programmers generally know that Linux is a kernel. But since they have generally heard the whole system called “Linux” as well, they often envisage a history that would justify naming the whole system after the kernel. For example, many believe that once Linus Torvalds finished writing Linux, the kernel, its users looked around for other free software to go with it, and found that (for no particular reason) most everything necessary to make a Unix-like system was already available.

>>55898633
What they found was no accident—it was the not-quite-complete GNU system. The available free software added up to a complete system because the GNU Project had been working since 1984 to make one. In the The GNU Manifesto we set forth the goal of developing a free Unix-like system, called GNU. The Initial Announcement of the GNU Project also outlines some of the original plans for the GNU system. By the time Linux was started, GNU was almost finished.

Most free software projects have the goal of developing a particular program for a particular job. For example, Linus Torvalds set out to write a Unix-like kernel (Linux); Donald Knuth set out to write a text formatter (TeX); Bob Scheifler set out to develop a window system (the X Window System). It's natural to measure the contribution of this kind of project by specific programs that came from the project.

If we tried to measure the GNU Project's contribution in this way, what would we conclude? One CD-ROM vendor found that in their “Linux distribution”, GNU software was the largest single contingent, around 28% of the total source code, and this included some of the essential major components without which there could be no system. Linux itself was about 3%. (The proportions in 2008 are similar: in the “main” repository of gNewSense, Linux is 1.5% and GNU packages are 15%.) So if you were going to pick a name for the system based on who wrote the programs in the system, the most appropriate single choice would be “GNU”.

But that is not the deepest way to consider the question. The GNU Project was not, is not, a project to develop specific software packages. It was not a project to develop a C compiler, although we did that. It was not a project to develop a text editor, although we developed one. The GNU Project set out to develop a complete free Unix-like system: GNU.

>>55898644
Many people have made major contributions to the free software in the system, and they all deserve credit for their software. But the reason it is an integrated system—and not just a collection of useful programs—is because the GNU Project set out to make it one. We made a list of the programs needed to make a complete free system, and we systematically found, wrote, or found people to write everything on the list. We wrote essential but unexciting (1) components because you can't have a system without them. Some of our system components, the programming tools, became popular on their own among programmers, but we wrote many components that are not tools (2). We even developed a chess game, GNU Chess, because a complete system needs games too.

By the early 90s we had put together the whole system aside from the kernel. We had also started a kernel, the GNU Hurd, which runs on top of Mach. Developing this kernel has been a lot harder than we expected; the GNU Hurd started working reliably in 2001, but it is a long way from being ready for people to use in general.

Fortunately, we didn't have to wait for the Hurd, because of Linux. Once Torvalds freed Linux in 1992, it fit into the last major gap in the GNU system. People could then combine Linux with the GNU system to make a complete free system: a Linux-based version of the GNU system; the GNU/Linux system, for short.

Making them work well together was not a trivial job. Some GNU components(3) needed substantial change to work with Linux. Integrating a complete system as a distribution that would work “out of the box” was a big job, too. It required addressing the issue of how to install and boot the system—a problem we had not tackled, because we hadn't yet reached that point. Thus, the people who developed the various system distributions did a lot of essential work. But it was work that, in the nature of things, was surely going to be done by someone.

>>55898653
The GNU Project supports GNU/Linux systems as well as the GNU system. The FSF funded the rewriting of the Linux-related extensions to the GNU C library, so that now they are well integrated, and the newest GNU/Linux systems use the current library release with no changes. The FSF also funded an early stage of the development of Debian GNU/Linux.

Today there are many different variants of the GNU/Linux system (often called “distros”). Most of them include non-free software—their developers follow the philosophy associated with Linux rather than that of GNU. But there are also completely free GNU/Linux distros. The FSF supports computer facilities for two of these distributions, Ututo and gNewSense.

Making a free GNU/Linux distribution is not just a matter of eliminating various non-free programs. Nowadays, the usual version of Linux contains non-free programs too. These programs are intended to be loaded into I/O devices when the system starts, and they are included, as long series of numbers, in the "source code" of Linux. Thus, maintaining free GNU/Linux distributions now entails maintaining a free version of Linux too.

Whether you use GNU/Linux or not, please don't confuse the public by using the name “Linux” ambiguously. Linux is the kernel, one of the essential major components of the system. The system as a whole is basically the GNU system, with Linux added. When you're talking about this combination, please call it “GNU/Linux”.

And this is why the OS is called GNU (NOT GNU/LINUX, NOT LINUX).

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>>55898601
>>55898633
>>55898644
>>55898653

>>55898663
If you want to make a link on “GNU/Linux” for further reference, this page and http://www.gnu.org/gnu/the-gnu-project.html are good choices. If you mention Linux, the kernel, and want to add a link for further reference, http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.cgi?Linux is a good URL to use.

Addendum: Aside from GNU, one other project has independently produced a free Unix-like operating system. This system is known as BSD, and it was developed at UC Berkeley. It was non-free in the 80s, but became free in the early 90s. A free operating system that exists today(4) is almost certainly either a variant of the GNU system, or a kind of BSD system.

People sometimes ask whether BSD too is a version of GNU, like GNU/Linux. The BSD developers were inspired to make their code free software by the example of the GNU Project, and explicit appeals from GNU activists helped persuade them, but the code had little overlap with GNU. BSD systems today use some GNU programs, just as the GNU system and its variants use some BSD programs; however, taken as wholes, they are two different systems that evolved separately. The BSD developers did not write a kernel and add it to the GNU system, and a name like GNU/BSD would not fit the situation.(5)

>>55898480
>They've been soundly beaten in basically every other area.
You must be confused.

Let me ask you this:
What is the most profitable Linux company?

Rhetorical question. It's Red Hat at about $50 million per quarter.

Last quarter, Microsoft made around 100x that.

Did it come from consumer desktop OS purchases?

Fuck no.

It's server cloud licensing and support, as well as cloud hosting via Azure.

I'm honestly curious as to where this ALL SERVERS ARE LINUX meme came from.

People fail to realize that nearly every small/midsize company has an Active Directory domain controller and an Exchange mail server, at the very least.

Unfortunately, there's no reliable way to really measure server market share.

>>55898086
Nah. Google recommends Clang now.

>>55898664
>look at me, I implemented easy shit and totally deserve to share the name in what is undoubtedly the hardest part of an operating system

>>55898410
Uh. I mean they said something along the lines of
>Don't worry.
>All your files are right where you left them.
They were just white letters on a black background but they faded each sentence in and out. Not sure if that's what you're talking about though.

>>55896762
Now time to sit back and watch the malware flood in. This shit's going to be Android 2.0.

>>55898766
Okay I'll give you that they've done exceptionally well in cloud based solutions but Azure also runs on GNU/Linux now so even there they've had to concede to GNU/Linux. Microsoft's OS business is spiraling the drain and Microsoft is diversifying to keep from becoming irrelevant like AOL or Yahoo.

>>55898602
Wouldn't surprise me. Probably easier to dual boot on a hackintosh, and if you're a dev OS X is not the place to be. Compile times really suffer on OS X even on the same hardware.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=osx-fedora21-vivid&num=5

>>55898408
there are two kinds of start menu ads: those "suggestions" and sponsored/demo apps.
you can only disable the former.

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>>55898786
It wasn't easy. It should have been easy, but for some reason every GNU util and lib is unnecessarily complicated and bloated.

>>55898823
As long as you only install through your distro's repos there's never going to be a problem.

>>55898832
>Azure also runs on GNU/Linux
You mean Linux OS hosting is available via Azure. The servers that power Azure DO run on a modified version of Windows, IIRC.

>Microsoft is diversifying
You're exactly right, but your present tense shows a lack of understanding as to their business model changes over the last 10 years.

They haven't made their money on straight OS since the 90's. Azure was announced nearly a decade ago, because this has been a long time coming.

Now, they profit on Linux systems.

Yeah, Linux is free and open-source, but plenty of companies pay Microsoft to host Linux-based systems.

>>55898786
>>55898899
t. inbred

>>55898766
>I'm honestly curious as to where this ALL SERVERS ARE LINUX meme came from.

It's quite simple explanation actually.
GNU/Linux users have about 1.5-2% marketshare on desktop but assume MS only have the same on server.

Reality is that Linux and MS both have ~30% server marketshare and the rest is BSD and unknown, but mostly Linux for sure. How much of that Linux is actually on bare metal though? Not much of it that's for sure.

>>55896924
Virtualize BSD instead.

>>55896762
And why is this a good thing? More malware, more garbage and more backdoors?

>>55898938
>Reality is that Linux and MS both have ~30% server marketshare and the rest is BSD and unknown, but mostly Linux for sure.
Do you have a source to back that up?

Obviously, Linux server market share is greater than desktop, but I highly doubt the numbers are close to the figures you just gave.

>>55896762
>linuxfags celebrating a 0.5% rise in market share

Wew lad. You guys are pathetic, but I'm sure you already knew that.

>>55899056
0.3% but it's pretty significant when it's of hundreds of millions of installs.

>>55898899
>gnu cat provides more functionality and is thoroughly documented
wew lad

>>55899070
oh no wait it is 0.5% I was looking from june to july like a dummy

>>55898969
It's true

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Public_servers_on_the_Internet

Around 30% of servers run Windows

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>>55897762

https://ptpb.pw/cZCs.webm

>>55899056
just how many people you think uses computers in the world?. Ok it's just an small sample of all the users (and a lot of linux users blocks analytics) but when it's convenient this statistics are used against linux as if it were the truth.

>>55899088
>publicly accessible

So what, web hosts and DNS?

Domain controllers, enterprise application frontend and database servers, and even many enterprise mailhost servers are not accessible outside of a business' local network. Often, they are hosted at a colo with a VPN tunnel to the office network.

It's impossible to measure how many servers have what OS because a massive portion of servers are not publicly accessible.

>>55897959
Give lollypop a shot. It's at the top of my list for music players. You can also just run the music player you used on Windows in wine.

>>55899088
Those are only among publicly-accessible servers.

That's like getting the demographics of the US by only looking at the suburbs.

You're a special sort of stupid.

>>55897959
>all music players are total shit
DeaDBeef. It is essentially Foobar, except it is Linux native.

>>55897039
Install osx in vm and pass the usb in it to download the installer

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stop memeing about linux, just don't use it if you don't see why you should

>>55899167
>>55899186

Even more servers use Windows in businesses. I work in IT and they are far more common.

Whats wrong with windows 10 xD

>>55899233
This.

Of course measuring web servers is going to be a huge chunk of non-Windows, because Apache is so insanely common for hosting websites.

Out of about 1200 servers across various business that we manage, maybe 50 of them are non-Windows.

It's mostly domain controllers and exchange servers.

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>>55896762
Yes, but the only reason this is happening is that Microsoft are fucking their customers in the ass dry. It would be even higher if Linux was actually good.
GNU/Linux development is stagnant compared to Windows 10, reading Phoronix is like reading the regional news in a third world shithole where buying a couple of second hand ambulances is big news.
The distro most people go to - Ubuntu, can you honestly say 16.04 is better than 14.04, or even 13.04, same story with GIMP and the video editors a lot of which show promise, but none are actually any good.
Steam on Linux has been the biggest development and even that has been a marginal success at best.
We should celebrate the fact that GNU/Linux is getting more users, but don't lose sight of the big picture. Picture unrelated.

>market share has risen to 2.3%
>It's year of the linux gais!
You faggots are almost as delusional as /pol/

>>55899400
/pol/ is not even delusional though, Trump is winning

>>55899435
Somebody hasn't been paying attention to the polls. Hilary is winning now but of course, if you point this out to /pol/ they'll claim the poll is rigged and maybe post a link to an article on Breitbert, a right wing rag that is heavily biased.

>>55899547
The last poll I saw Trump had a significant lead

>>55899398
>development is stagnant
Are you saying they are not implementing spyware features fast enough as microsoft?
The only thing keeping Microsoft alive is corporate users with their outlook, lync, excel and fucking power point, thanks to retarded management that keep buying in their marketing even if their services are shit compared to alternatives (see azure versus amazon/ibm)
Win 10 can't even print a document on a network printer where my Ubuntu box worked flawlessly, i'm impatient to see my manager face when he'll realize how much will it costs to pay for all the enterprise subscriptions and get a worse service than before
I'm laughing everytime i've to provision a windows server on the cloud and it cost at least 3 times than a centos box for less performance and shitty management tools
Without the existing lock-in Microsoft is doomed

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>>55899555
Not anymore

>>55899547
Hillary doesn't get people excited like Trump does, so I doubt it

>>55899547
As opposed to CNN a biased left wing rag

>>55899584
Her lead will drop again, Mark my words, the democrats are retarded for nominating her.

>>55899078
>more functionality
it needs to read files then spit them out, and check for a --help and --version. Plan 9's cat is unnecessarily terse but GNU's cat is just ridiculous. You don't need pages of documentation for something that should be that simple.

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>>55896762
I just bought a second SSD the past weekend so that I could play around with Linux but I don't know if I'll keep using it

I might just give up on it and go back to Hackintosh because OSX is more aesthetically pleasing and has mainstream support.

is there any music and video players that are all about aesthetic, because so far everything is ugly from what I've seen. I just want ones that look simple/modern and don't look straight out of 2004

>>55899621
Trump's biggest threat to his campaign is himself he cannot open his mouth without stroking his ego and if someone doesn't agree with him he tries to belittle them which appeals to his base but doesn't appeal to basically anyone else. Even republicans are trying to distance themselves from him

>>55897959
Foobar and pretty much all components run without issue in wine. You'll need a wrapper script though if you want to open your files from the file manager, as foobar will be expecting windows-like filepaths. Prefixing the filepath argument with "Z:" is usually enough, as wine usually has a Z drive configured to link to root.

>>55898786
>undoubtedly the hardest part of an operating system

Ehhh... No?

>>55899675
>music player that is all about aesthetic
I don't know why someone would like something like this honestly
I like clementine, but I don't know if that is aesthetic enough for you, I doubt it

>>55896762
Thanks for reminding me to boot and update windows 10.
Been about a month.
Should be done by dinner time.
Fuck it..tomorrow maybe.

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>>55896935
>linux stocks

>>55899400
/pol/ believed in Brexit, guess what? Meme Magic is real

>>55896935
Probably a stupid question, but that'll never stop me
Are Linux stocks actually a thing?

>>55898780

gcc is still required for the kernel

>>55900375
Maybe, is there a company called linux out there somewhere? It probably has little to do with the linux kernel if there is but you could possibly buy stocks in that company if it exists.

>>55900404
I was more thinking maybe a company like RedHat would have stocks
Guess I can go research that myself

>>55900429
Red Hat is publicly traded you can buy shares of it.

>>55900429
Red Hat stocks usually spike after a major update
This pattern has repeated itself for many years

>>55900191
when they all perform the same function, the only thing left to desire is form

>>55900444
>>55900447
I know it's not /biz/ but how is rh going?
I liked rhel 7, tried the first time a few months ago with the free developer subscription
>working in red hat
>hacking the Linux kernel and being paid for it
Literally my dream job

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>>55900444
>>55900447
I see
>tfw February was the time to buy

>>55899088
>>55898938

It is true, but look at the greater *nix. You'll find many servers running HPUX too for example. Together I would argue that you'll find about 60% *nix market share on server markets.

And actually, a lot of servers run Linux on bare metal because there's such wide support for fast virtualization. KVM is one of the most popular hypervisors out there.

>>55898766
>Rhetorical question. It's Red Hat at about $50 million per quarter.

They ONLY sell support. MS has a much more diversified market, from office applications to mail servers. Of course they make more money.

>It's server cloud licensing and support, as well as cloud hosting via Azure.

Bullshit. It's not all server income. Microsoft has a massive foothold in a lot more markets than that.

>>55900482
That's not true, clementine has library organization function, transcoding on the fly, an android app for remote control/music synchronization, lyrics, wikipedia, lastfm/librefm integration, SoundCloud and radio streams
It does a lot of things with an okey-ish interface, just a bit heavy on resources

>>55899398
>>steam on linux shows marginal success
>a full quarter of the games on steam adding support
>>marginal
>more than the PS4 and XB1
>>marginal
tard confirmed, nothing to see here

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>>55900121
>He's never written his own OS

>>55896762
THANK YOU BASED FOSSHUB/CLASSIC SHELL

>>55900615
wincucks will defend this

>>55897845

I actually believe that this could be a thing

>>55900530
Commercial licensing is 2/3 of their net profit, dipshit.

what will you do when linux will get as much users as OS X ?

What will you do when devs will still tell you they won't port their programs because linux isn't relevant enough despite having more users than OS X ?

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habeeb

Good. Maybe in a couple of years Adobe finally takes notice and ports their software to Linux so I can ditch Windows.

>>55900685
>Commercial licensing is 2/3 of their net profit, dipshit.

Yep, for Windows, MS Office, Visual Studio, Exchange and a ton of other software. A lot of what they license isn't server-related you dumb fuck.

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EVERY ONE!
GIVE YOUR ENERGY TO TUX!

\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/

>>55900855
And maybe a big corporation like Microsoft will dedicate their resources to make a professional IDE like visual studio for Linux, maybe even Microsoft porting it... there would be 0 reasons to stay on windows.

>>55900930

There's some reasons to stay on Windows, but VS is not it.

>>55900947
For you.

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>Microsoft and Apple will die in your life time

>>55900660
Good, because it is.

>>55900901
genki dama?

>>55900901
& \o\

>>55896924
I moved to Arch because of Windows 10, couldn't decide on a Desktop Environment, went back to Windows 10.

Also muh gayms crashed in WINE.

>>55901019
\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/\o\o/o\o/

I wish there was a distro that had sane defaults that don't require me to work towards 'customizing' everything.

And I don't mean shit like Ubuntu which has some seriously retarded things with Unity lockdown.

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>>55897783

>>55901149
apricity is bretty sexy, arch based w/ gnome and dash to dock enabled. looks great works great, plus some other goodies. i use it on my laptop, works great for me. i wouldnt use for gaming on amd cards, drivers are shit but if your fine without that then go for it. if you do have amd and want to use linux for gaming then manjaro is your best bet for a common sense os, its driver utility makes it easy as fuck to install drivers. playing csgo comfortably in manjaro gnome community edition

>>55901149
Linux Lite for noobs, Netrunner for all preinstalled.

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>>55896921
>>55897787
JUST NEED TO GET TO 8% BOYS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hG4X5iTK8M

>>55901149
Gallium.

It's a trimmed down Xubuntu with better defaults. Also has chromebook and atom builds

>>55896924
Qemu

>>55896762
thank you M$

I'm thinking about switching to Linux, but I want to try out a distro or two in a VM first.

Can anyone recommend a free and easy to use VM? I've never done this shit before.

>>55897079
It's measured by analysing the user agents of Web browsers on popular sites. Linux on win10 doesn't count towards this unless people are specifically installing and running their browsers with the new linux system.

>>55901489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33sFFhgkWk

>>55901489
try a live cd (or USB drive). It's more native and if you ever choose to install a dualboot or even replace windows its just one click away.
vms just create new problems and are laggy as hell

>>55901489
VirtualBox is the easiest and even free as in freedom (not counting USB 2 passhtrough which you won't need).

>>55900002
>>55899198
>>55899180
I tried lollypop and deafbeef. I tried pretty much all music players out there, but none of them offer the same features that musicbee does. Quod libet got close, but it's still not quite it. I noticed that music players on linux tend to hate playlists with a passion.

I also tried to run musicbee through wine, it does install properly, but it just refuses to run. I followed different instructions from WineHQ, from the musicbee forums, and from another source I can't quite remember at the moment. Nothing helped.

>>55901314
The GNU/Linuxgeddon

>>55901599
What do you want in a music player exactly?

>>55901613
Sorry if I get a bit too detailed with this:

// I have my playlists organized in folders, mimicking my actual music directory, something like this:

- Playlists folder A
-- Playlist 1
-- Playlist 2
- Playlists folder B
-- Playlist 3
-- Playlist 4
- Smart/dynamic playlist 1
- Smart/dynamic playlist 2

In particular, I can't get playlist folders on any music player, only one level of playlists. Even worse, I could not get any music player to actually import the +500 playlists at once, I could only import them manually, one at a time. Quod libet did offer a pretty satisfying folder view that basically offered the same, but then came the other issue,

// I sync my music with my phone using the same format for playlists and files. I found no player that could offer this in particular. Since it's a phone, I don't mind if the music is stored using another directory format, but the playlists would not work.

// Lastly, the interface itself is quite comfy on musicbee. I admit this is simply a matter of being accustomed to it, so I'm rather flexible on it, but it still matters. I have my playlists, radios and file manager all in the same sidebar pane, so no extra fumbling around. The compact and mini players are quite handy, but not a must, since linux does offer a lot better integration of music players with the DE. Mouse controls were also annoying on most players, in that I could not set particular actions depending on the pane where I was clicking.

Again, sorry if I sound autistic.

how does linux have market share if its supposed to be free

>>55902046

because your mother sucks cock for crack

>>55897762
If you didnt, I would. You're doing Gods work anon.

Reminder that even if you are all about gaymen there is no reason not to use linux anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19knRjL9w3Q

>>55899056
You do realise Linux has no forced upgrades and adwares in security upgrades and bottom panels, right?

i want to switch to linux but a lot of the games i play aren't available on linux

>>55902405
Dual boot anon. Steam games are a thing as well. Microsoft is purposefully hurting steam but it's up to you to support an open source platform with no hidden agenda to spy on you or show forced ads

>>55902449
fuck you i'm not dual booting just play dark souls 3

>>55902470
GPU passthrough is also an answer

>>55896762
Good for it. I'd like to see it hit over 10%. I don't know if it will ever happen, but I'm hopeful.

Not that I use a Linux desktop, mostly because work anymore...

>>55896762
>wanting tech illiterate shits to use glorious GNU+Linux
Too many people know about it nowadays as is.

>>55896924
VMWare will let you virtualize OSX, and do it well enough.

I have a set of Dell R610 servers running ESXi and OSX 10.9 for some testing. There's some changes that need to be made to VMWare first, but it's do-able.

>>55902488
thats way too much shit to do to play vidya

>>55902534
It's actually one of those Linux projects that make you pleased with yourself once you set it up. You'll grow out of graphics intensive game one day anyways.

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If only someone would develop great CAD/CAM software for Linux. I tried to switch but my tools weren't stable in vm or wine. Dual boot isn't a solution.

>>55902657
>I tried to switch but my tools weren't stable in vm or wine
1. You are not doing your CAD projects on laptop
2. On desktop you can set up GPU passthrough and put your graphics card to work
3. Why not dual boot?

>>55896967
> Dual Booting

Just use VMs, mate. You can use both OSes at once and give only one of them access to your hardware. Also a lot easier to transport between machines and a lot easier to free up space and resources.

> Want to use mac stuff
> open VM window
> done with mac stuff
> turn off VM

vs

> want to use mac stuff
> reboot
> go to GRUB menu
> select mac
> done with mac stuff
> reboot
> go to GRUB menu
> select Funtoo

>>55897443
> /v/ overflow intensifies
> new board needed
> /gv/ - Linux Hate Board

>>55902753
This. Virtualbox and VMWare are under active development and I wouldn't be surprised if somehow they are able to combine VT-d and seamless/unity technology.

I hope it happens within 5-6 years

>>55902753
>GRUB
rEFInd w/ EFI stub booting is so much cleaner. No more grub for me at all. All my linux distros and OSes just boot straight from rEFInd. I have seen the light.

So I guess I should probably see the light of VMs as well.

>>55899233

THIS.

I am working for a major Dell partner in Yurop and all but one (1, uno, single) of the servers sold to enterprise by us for the last year were ordered with Windows Server.

>>55897845
Just imagine their boss saying:
>"Alright you twats, in order to make money you will have to promote and say good things about our and only our products. The following sites that you are supposed to shill on are: facebook, LinkedIn, reddit and a chinnese anonymous imageboard called 4chan. Good luck and I'll see all of you for penis inspection at 5am."

>>55898766
you're failing to realize that redhat's business leans on being reasonably priced. if it starts charging as much as Microsoft does for its products and starts auditing its clients and whacking companies with massive fines, it will lose all of its clientele.

it completely beat out every other corporate *nix because those were retardedly expensive. think SCO, Solaris, etc. like "pay us 20k extra so you can have 200 concurrent sessions" expensive.

this is a juniper/cisco situation.

>>55901837
Sorry mate but you do sound a bit autistic.

Clementine is what I can recommend, you can do playlist folders, the UI is really fucking comfy and there are a lot of great features.

>Microsoft will fall in your lifetime

>>55901489
Get a spare USB >= 2 GB and download Ubuntu, xubuntu, fedora and opensuse KDE (use torrent preferably, it's faster and will check for error automatically)
Download a USB image writer and try these one by one in live mode
Choose the one you find more comfortable (I advice the standard Ubuntu, but it's up to you) and try to install it in a spare partition

>>55903181
>Sorry mate but you do sound a bit autistic.
I KNOW, RIGHT? I got the same feeling when I finished the post, but I swear I'm not.

I tried clementine as well, but for some reason, the damn thing wouldn't do anything playlist-related, so I couldn't even confirm if it had playlist folders, since it wouldn't create or import them in the first place. I did like the interface, though. I'll give it another look and see if I can get it to work properly. Cheers.

>>55900569
>tard confirmed, nothing to see here
t. the person who lumps all games into one category as if indie trash flash games are the same as GTA V or The Witcher 3 or Fallout 4 etc.
Most of the Linux catalogue is indie trash, the AAA games from most major devs are non-existent, even Mac OS has more big profile titles.
Steam on Linux accounts for less than 1% of the total steam playerbase, the windows store is doing better than that probably.

>>55904099
41% of the top 1000 games. And 25% of everything. Looks to me like Linux has a higher percentage of good vs indie trash than windows.

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>>55897959
>My only complaints with Linux are that keepass2 & keefox don't work
I beg your pardon?

>>55904155
To be more exact, they worked for me during the live session, but not at the final install. Keepass2 installs fine, but is wonky and won't come up when clicking the tray icon (I have to use the context menu). No issues on the side of keefox, other than keepass not responding to the "login to keepass" button. Not sure if the problem is with the plugin or with keepass2 itself.

The install method/order was exactly the same on both opportunities. Probably should have specified "don't work for me".

>>55903933
It can, I use it daily.
It's pretty easy to create playlists/playlists folder, I guess you just have to find your way around...

Start by clicking on the playlists menu on the sidebar, you should see a button to create a folder and you can arrange your playlists by dragging them around in there.

If you're on Ubuntu hover over the application titlebar (or hover on the topmost system bar while clementine is focused, been long since I used Ubuntu) to access the playlist menu, create/load/save playlist stuff is there too.

Above the main playlist there should be buttons for loading a playlist, saving the current playlist and creating a new one.

You can add files to the playlists by using the "Files" tab on the sidebar.

When you have more than 1 playlist loaded they're shown as horizontal tabs above the playlist.

>>55900873
I'd say most of what they license isn't server related. Every school, office, etc., has hundreds to thousands of PCs running Windows

>>55900930
You been under a rock?

>>55904270
Thanks, I've been checking it out. I did a quick switch back to the windows partition to see if it was any different there, and it fucking is! The "new folder" option does not appear on the playlists pane on Linux, even though it's the same version. I only get the option to delete and save (export) playlists. Since clementine keeps track of everything on a single database, it doesn't seem possible to set up everything on windows and then copy it to the linux install.

Adding multiple playlists still seem mostly impossible, though. I have to load them individually and then add them to my favorites one by one. There are too many. Do you know if there's any way to do a batch import?

>>55904578
It's definitely odd that you can't manage playlists on your Linux version of Clementine... I'm guessing the version on the repository of the distro you're using is older than the feature.

And as I never had to batch import playlists on Clementine I didn't know that was not possible, my bad. I looked around but couldn't find anything...

This might not seem good to you, but just as a fun fact: Clementine supports loading playlists via command line (clementine --load /path/to/playlist.xspf) so you could use your terminal shell as a playlist manager, as it seems you have the playlist files organized in folders and such in the file system, you could load them on demand from the terminal

>>55904821
>I'm guessing the version on the repository of the distro you're using is older than the feature.
That was my first guess as well, but I confirmed they're the same. I even directly installed the latest deb to make sure. Pretty odd. I'm using kubuntu, so yeah, seems like a lot of software is not up to date.

>>55896762
I recently purchased a t420 and installed xubuntu. I have been "trying" linux for years, but never really used it as my primary operating system. Now is the time. Does everything I need it to and more.

>>55898677
Tell us more about how HURD was an utter failure.

>>55902534
I have a solution for you:

.

.

.

.

.

get
the
fuck
out

>>55899056
Hello pajeet, 0.3% is a rise by 14% which is pretty nice

>>55902534
> not just setting up a fucking Win8.1 Virtual Machine

>>55902257
>tfw my R9 Fury doesnt support bus reinitialization, so it crashes on driver install.

>>55902257
Can i use the integrated graphics unit of my i5 2230 for the host?. I have a 760 gtx for the passthrough

>>55906525
Yes

>>55906525
Make sure your mother board and cup supports it