THINK FAST NIGGERS! Air cooling or Liquid Cooling for your CPU?

>>55892750
Never custom loop, otherwise closed loop for pretty.

>>55892750
Liquid if you have a system (ie overclocking) that legitimately needs it. In most applications liquid cooling accomplishes nothing a well designed air cooling system can't. It looks cooler though.

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Phase change

>>55892777
trips checked
phase change cooling confirmed god tier

What games can i play on my laptop?

Air cooling because everyone knows liquds+electrictiy=bad idea

Air because i am poor and use a low profile machine.

Air because lazyness

>>55893287
>implying even liquid cooling doesn't use air cooling
>implying liquid cooling doesn't utilize non-conductive fluid

>>55893483
>implying there aren't low profile liquid coolers

>>55893593
>implying aio coolers aren't easier to install than gigantic tower coolers

liquid cooling confirmed master race for the moment, everyone please try not to autismaly convince yourself of any false claims such as air coolers being in any way superior

>>55893838
>Implying any liquid cooler will compete with paste, bolt, go for install

Ok

>>55893838
>implying non-conductive fluid doesn't become conductive over time

>>55892750
Air for CPU

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>>55893871
>he forgot about Peltier coolers
Once they make a 120mm or 140mm version of this, I'm ditching my AIO.

>>55893838
They're superior in ease of setup to average users.
I have a LIQUIIIDD system, but air comes first.

Depends how much you wish to spend. Generally, sub 50 stay with air. Good aftermarket air like Scythe Mugen . 80+ you want a self contained AIO liquid. Corsair , swiftech, or EK.

The nice thing about AIOs is that the transfer the burden of hanging a large chunk of metal from your motherboard to your case.

It also eliminates any clearance issues in regards to case width, pcie slots, and RAM profile.

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>>55893907
>Peltier coolers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermoelectric_cooling

http://www.heatsink-guide.com/peltier.htm

Whoa I had no idea these existed thanks anon.

>>55892773
Why not?

>>55893907
Shame that 6-pin is at such a shitty angle.

I guess it would've been too smart to have made it a more compatible right-angle.

>>55893227
I'll recommend you the same ones as I recommended to my gf:
Cataclysm DDA
Renowned Explorers
Worms Armageddon

>>55894603
>C:DDA
I've been meaning to play that, is it as accessable as DCSS?

>>55894640
I have never played that, but CDDA has really intuitive controlls, but the fighting system is really minimalistic.

why is watercooling so fucking expensive?
the cheapest set i found is 42€, average is 70-120
well, what if i buy the components and build it myself?

pump + tank + radiator + cpu attachement plate cost about 200€, even a fucking corner piece for tubes is like 5€

can i get this shit cheaper in the aquarium section of a hardware store?

>>55894692
Try mineral oil in a water tank, will probably be cheaper and you will be able to cool everything not just the main components.

>>55894692

Its expensive because of quality and PC-focused design, combined with a niche audience so to speak. Its actually a lot cheaper than it used to be.

And as far as aquarium stuff, with very very few exceptions no, it will be more expensive and less useful. For instance, some of the best watercooling PC pumps are based on aquarium pumps, but then enhanced significantly.

If you want to save some money, get an All In One (ie self contained cooling system). Those from Corsair are good for the $80-120 USD range. If you want the best of the best, custom liquid cooling quality, get Swiftech (Prestige) or EK Predator. They use parts comparable or the same as custom watercooling stuff and can even be expanded to make a custom loop especially with the EK Predator's QuickDisconnect option.

>>55892750
air cooling because I dont want to replace the coolant

>>55892750
Liquid cooling is air cooling.

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>>55892750
Liquid cooling.

On skylake aircooling is fine for almost anything

>>55892750
My goal is to have a whisper/silent PC when it is in idle, but cool enough for a over clocking bump.

Air cooling won. In either way, heat output into the room is the same, sure I can't overclock my CPU much more, due to not pulling enough heat with my air cooler, but at least I only have the chance to hear my fans, rather than fan+pump whine.

Air win, liquid cooling loses.

>>55892750
CLCs are designed for and marketed at /v/-tier retards.

Noctua


That is all

stock cooler and apathy

>>55894733
>mineral oil
This.

The problem is finding it...

>>55892750
Air because its literally the same was water in a more solid reliable package.

Heatpipes have liquid inside them you fucking watercool shilling niggers.

>closed loop
>ever
just adds pump noise and reduces reliability compared to air coolers. Not to mention it's twice the price of a decent air cooler and a CPU doesn't actually produce enough heat to make water cooling worth it.

The only valid reason for water cooling is a custom loop with CPU and high end GPU. Those actually produce enough heat to make water cooling useful.

aio liquid coolers look pretty but but cryorig/noctua air coolers are better at cooling and less noisy

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>>55894733
>Try mineral oil

welcome to /g/

install gentoo while you're at it

>>55895557
actually not a bad idea if you dont care about people thinking you have autism

>>55893907
>>55894038
Believe it or not, those active coolers aren't any better than high end air coolers, unless you do all the insulation prep work and disable the tec's thermostat, or tweak it for better cooling.

You would also get far better results with multiple blocks /peltiers running a liquid chiller if you wanted to go through all that trouble.

Just keep in mind that a peltier is most effective with the hot side ~50c, so you would still have noticeable heat. You can go get this cheap 60w ones (7522 I believe) which will have a maximum temperature differential of 70 c with the hott side at 50 c and 60 watts 5amps of power.

>>55894733
Mineral oil still requires a pump and radiators. A fish tank full of mineral oil can store a lot of heat, but it doesn't have enough surface area to dissipate the heat as fast as your PC is generating it.

>>55893907
>6 pin power connector
What's the point? That thing just dumps more heat into your case.

>>55894867
>liquid cooling
>posts air cooler
this is /g/ everyone

>>55895606
>he does not know there is liquid in the heatpipe

peltier + mineral oil to insulate the mobo against condensation

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>>55895543
>Heatpipes have liquid inside them you fucking watercool shilling niggers

>>55892750
>>>/v/

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Custom loop master race. Running a 6700k oc'ed to 4700 and a gtx 1080. The reference cooler was shit, 85c at full load. Now it runs a nice 40c with whatever I throw at it. CPU peaks at about 65c under load.

All tested at 21c room temp.

>>55892773
>im 12yrs old and and mommy doesn't give me 700+€ to build a costum loop so I only get this closed loop trash.
Lel costum loop is always better poor fag

>>55896168
dat lightning looks like trash, also no sleved cables and trashy cablemanagment. 12yrs old confirmed

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>>55892750
My rig.
i7 4790k+Fury X

>>55892750

I'm thinking of switching my desktop back to air from a 240mm AIO. I can get a very marginally higher OC (0.1-0.2 GHz) with the AIO but the pump noise irritates me to fuck and I think I could run 140mm fans on a decent air cooler at a lower RPM than the 120mm rad fans I have now. Also they may help direct airflow through the case.

>>55896168
your case must have shit airflow or no understanding how custom fan curves work because my oc'd founders 1080 doesn't go above 76C on full load,

air is best

>>55892750
air if you want silence. liquid if you're into heavy overclocking and shit.

>>55893907
I have tried peltier cooling with a 60w peltier and a 2.5ghz pentium 4. The results were amazing but I needed to turn the peltier on before the rest of the pc in order to get lower temps. I always got slightly higher temps when I turned om the peltier and the pc at the same time.

>>55892750
Ideally air for power draw under 200w, water for everything else or kicks for extreme limits.

I want one of those new spinning heatsink coolers, that shit is awesome.

>>55896552
I have a NH d14 for my 9370 (220W TDP) and it's really cool even at load. It's not over 35 degrees in summer, while my poor 212 evo was struggling to keep it under 60 C

>>55896568
What?

>>55895687
there isn't

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Neither.

Air cooling

what the fuck do I need water cooling for? even if I overclock my CPU air will be enough, so why pay extra and work extra for a more dangerous solution?

>>55896420
That was no OC and just on the factory fan curves. I got the Gigabyte founders abd when I pulled it apart to install the water block and backplate the heatsink was pretty underwhelming and there didn't seem to be much thermal paste on the gpu, only about 2/3rds coverage. I've dropped about 10c at idle no OC from 35 to 25 at a room temp of 21c. I don't think case airflow was the problem because I was running a noctua D15 cpu cooler before the custom water loop and I never had a problem wth cpu thermals even at 17% overclock.

>>55897112
Does this shit actually work? If so why aren't more people opting for passive cooling?

Neither. Heatsinks are the best.

>>55893287
Pretty sure liquid cooling uses mineral oil which isn't conductive

>>55895566
or upgrading components
or tinkering with them at all really without massive hassle
or the leaks that will definitely happen and be a bitch to diagnose/fix
or the total fucking mess those leaks will make
or selling on your greasy as fuck components without massive hassle

Aye its a good idea if you dont care about all that shit too :)

>>55897236
because it only works for low power/heat chips.

>>55897236
because

>enormous
>expensive
>fans can be silent and are safer if temps ramp up for some reason
>high end air coolers can literally be used passively anyway and have the option for a fan if your nigger dreams of a passive PC turn into a housefire

>>55897112
Wouldn't this need case fans anyway? Or does it just require an open-top for the heat to rise?

>Air
If you're poor
>Closed loop
If you want it to look pretty and be quieter than air
>Custom loop
If you actually care about CPU cooling

>>55893287
>i dropped out of high school

>>55896665
What, you didn't hear about the new coolers which are round spinning heatsinks that float over the thermal pad? It's pretty cool shit, they're silent and they don't collect dust.

http://www.pcper.com/news/Cases-and-Cooling/CoolChip-Technologies-Teases-New-Kinetic-Cooler-Skylake-Processors

Unfortunately now that I read further into it, it mentions they are only designed for 70W TDP chips, so I guess that rules it out as an option for me. Maybe they'll release a larger one someday that can actually handle mid range CPUs.

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>>55893214
This isnt /b dont check 'em

>>55897675
In theory no, but having at least some airflow, no matter how little, significantly increases the cooling performance

>>55892750
Oil

>>55892773
Poorfag detected, what's wrong? Can't afford a custom loop? Gotta go with the shit tier aio? I bet you have a hyper 212.

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>>55892777
Trips tells the truth. Phase change is the best cooling solution.

I was thinking about building my own refrigerant loop. The condenser would be the hardest part. I would buy the compressor.

>>55899059
>Trips tells the truth.
>>55893214
>trips checked
Global Rule #3

What's the height of a cpu waterblock + fittings, is it feasable to keep it below the level of the i/o shield (~45mm)?

>>55897947
>>55899073

2 fags mad their neetbux can't pay for phase change :^)

>>55892774

Quieter
Less heatstrain on ICs overtime.
Less heat buildup inside case
Less fans/pressure needed

Water cooling has plenty of good points over air cooling alone.

>>55892773
>>55892750

Never closed loop. If you're made of money you may want to closed loop for pretty combined with utter silence

>>55897093
...Yes there is

>>55899838
Not that guy, but there's more than one type of heatpipe buddy.

I'm fairly certain the type where the gas inside condenses to liquid is less used these days because it makes them less effective if oriented in a funny way.

quick question that doesn't warrant it's own thread
R1 ultimate, ph-tc14pe, dark rock pro 3, h110igt(x) or kraken x61

>>55899895
Generally speaking, Heatpipes (Among with Vapor Chambors) have some liquid in it which goes to gas (and back to liquid) during the cooling process.

That doesn't mean its a Liquid cooler tho. Its like saying your car runs on water because the gas tank you have has aprox 0.3 % water molecules

>>55897163
First thing i did was pull up the fan curve, in testing it on Air for about a week until my waterblock and extra rad arrives. Its amazing how they Let the gpu go to 85 instead of using the full cooling potential of the fans

>>55899405
Tallest parts Are the Fittings for the tuning, doubt it will be Lower even with 2 90° Fittings directly on the block

>>55896168
>6700k 4.7ghz on water
What a waste of money. You could do that on good air cooler.

>>55896228
where is the hdd?

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Yo, I got this, guys.

How about AC cooling?

>>55897112
That's still air cooling, dumbfuck.

>>55901250
one word: condensation

>>55892773
get back to class kid

air/semi passive if you have room

closed if you dont have room

custom loop if you are going all in

>>55896168
>1000w
>system draws less than 450
why do people do this?

Water cooling:
>heat flows only as fast as the pump can pump the water

Heat Pipes:
>heat flows at the speed of sound

Why would anyone ever use water cooling?

>>55894867
>Liquid cooling.

Don't be a fucking pussy. You know what he meant.

>>55892750
Air. Lasts longer. Less fucking up. Cheaper. Oc can be made if you're good.

>>55902443
because they dont want to hear the sound.

>>55902841
how do i good?

>>55896168
your ram is in single channel lol

>>55902309
Upgrade paths, modularity in the PSU, higher grade components in the PSU, higher efficiency ratings from the PSU...
There's a lot of reasons.

I myself am >>55896228 and I previously had a Corsair TX750M but changed it out for that XFX850 because of full modularity, higher efficiency and I thought that my 750M had an issue. I don't think it does now, but at the time I did and by the time I'd realised it was a loose plug, I'd already been sent the other PSU.

>>55892750
Air. Cheaper, more reliable, I don't overclock.

Originally wanted liquid but for budget reasons I'm gonna have to use air, provided I can get one that's just as good.

Recommendations?

>>55903328
>efficiency curve
they are only efficient under load

buying a high wattage for a system that draws 100-400 makes them hugely inefficient and costs you more.

>>55903863
Kys

Krakem X61 or Noctua d15 for an i7 6700k?

Why doesn't anyone water cool their PSU?

>>55904599
kraken is a hockey puck that sits on 4 hand screws
d15 is huge but half the price
both are almost silent
make your own damn mind up

>>55904803
I come to 4chan so I don't have to think for my self.

I had a watercooled rig for about 4 years until the pump died and I had to take it all apart. After that I just stick to air cooling because the actual cost/benefit of watercooling isn't that much (cheap closed loop systems also have an annoying noise from the pump from my experience)

>>55892777
How does this work?

>>55892750
What CPU?

>>55897906
So its a blower fan for cpus

>>55904978
6600k

>>55892750
watercooling = meme :^)

>>55899003
>>55899766
>>55902230


>>55892773
I agree. I spent about $900 on my custom loop and after a few months I regretted it. It is just a pain in the ass in the long run. I ended up selling bits and pieces a year later and just bought a closed loop for the CPU and hybrid 980 Tis.