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What went wrong?
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5 band blue colored low wattage resistors.
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>>55882809
with resistors?
they were too big.
SMD is where its at
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What's the most meme electronic component again?
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>>55882809
they chose shit colors like blue as a background for some that make it impossible to read the values correctly.
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>>55882977
RGB LEDs
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>>55882977
>>55883001
buck regulators
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>>55882977
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And what is wrong here?
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>>55883706
>he doesnt know
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>>55883740
Expecting other people to automatically know something you know is a sign of autism.
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>>55882977

I want this post-post ironic trend to end holy shit
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>>55883794
you think this is some kind of joke?
>>55883785
look closer. What do all these devices have in common?
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>>55883870
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>>55883917
alright. you win, I'll stop.
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>>55882977
AmpereMemeter
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>>55883870
I would say they are electrical, but logic gates do not have to be electrical.

If the answer is electricity, what the fuck do you propose we use instead? Electricity is fucking awesome.
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>>55883987
Fantastic addition anon.

>>55884002
you're getting close anon, but think on a more abstract level.
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>>55883870
I hate the American symbols for logic gates. Like, you look at it and it doesn't tell you jack shit about what the gate does, the symbols are entirely arbitrary. Like, why the fuck is AND a round helmet and OR is a pointy one? It's fucking stupid.
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>>55883917
whats coming out of his nose?
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>>55884035
post your idea meme gates then anon.

>>55884045
looks like cum tbqh
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>>55884094
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_gate#Symbols
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>>55884270
ugly af tbqh try again when you have some ~aesthetic~
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>>55884278
They're fucking circuit symbols, they're not meant to be aesthetic but to allow you to quickly understand what a circuit does. Having a logically sound symbol in a box accomplishes that, plus if you need more than two inputs or different sizes of boxes you can just change their dimensions and it doesn't fucking matter; the American symbols look retarded when stretched.
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>>55883870
>>55884035
fun fact: most of dirt cheap ICs are/were built using NAND, NOR, XNOR gates.
because they didn't need to use inverter to form "native" gates.
i wouldn't surprised if modern and bigger circuits were built the same way because of space saving and using two transistors less per gate
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>>55884366
Also because the transistors that form those gates are cheaper to produce.
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>>55884319
someone sounds pissed they cant handle basic symbols.

>>55884366
>>55884386
neat famalam
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>>55883870
I feel like an OR gate in a world full of Exclusive ORs
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>>55884398
Oh I can, but what they mean isn't immediately visible at a glance so you have to actively remember which symbol is for which function, plus if you're looking at a low-res copy of a copy of an old hand-drawn schematic they might not be easily distinguishable.
I'm just baffled that Americans show such bad practice in science and technology, and stubbornly insist on keeping their impractical symbols and unit system.
Same with the resistor and inductor symbols. European? It's a long rectangle, filled for the inductor (okay, that part doesn't make sense), you can draw them quickly and can't mistake them for anything else. American? The inductor symbol makes sense at least but the resistor symbol looks like a spring and if you draw quickly they look the same and/or retarded.
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>>55884499
Ngl, if you think that's any less obscure its all up to bias. It's no more intuitive than random shapes to the lay person. (with the exception of the & symbol)
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>>55884035
>I hate the American symbols for logic gates. Like, you look at it and it doesn't tell you jack shit about what the gate does, the symbols are entirely arbitrary.
Yes dumbass, that's what a symbol is - a REPRESENTATION of something.

>>55884270
That literally lists the American ones side by side with ugly rectangles that would become the hardware equivalent of spaghetti code for any non-trivial circuit.

>>55884398
>neat famalam
Oh, so you didn't know one of the first things they teach in the first week of a freshman circuit's class, no wonder all you can do is complain that you don't like the symbols because they have a property that is very useful in the real world.

>>55884499
>isn't immediately visible at a glance
They are immediately visible at a glance if you've worked with the symbols for longer than a semester, which I doubt you have.

>Americans have such bad practice in science and technology
Which is why they continue to lead in those fields, right?
>and stubbornly insist on keping their impractical symbols
The circuit symbols are not impractical - what's impractical are morons like you who complain about it
>and unit system
Are you talking about American science and technology, or American laymen?
>I don't know how to draw symbols
Not my problem

>>55884562
So much fucking this, to a point, all symbols are arbitrary. The letter F's symbolism has absolutely no relation to its pronunciation, yet you do not complain that "it's hard to read all these letters because what they mean isn't immediately visible at a glance." Literally the only reason to complain is some bias, which most people lose after working in the field for even a few weeks
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>>55884591
>Oh, so you didn't know one of the first things they teach in the first week of a freshman circuit's class

I think you're confusing me with euro anon senpaií

I wasnt complaining at all, just shitposting.

fyi >>55884562 was also me.
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>>55884319
>>55884499
the advantage of block symbols shows in complex functionality.
pic related
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>>55884562
The OR symbol (>=1) makes sense as well. Are one or more inputs True, in other words, are >=1 inputs True? Then output is True.
XOR: =1 -> Is exactly one input True?

>>55884591
>REPRESENTATION
But why did they have to choose completely unintuitive representations?

>spaghetti code for any non-trivial circuit.
So you draw individual gates for non-trivial circuits? And you can quickly distinguish really small versions of those symbols in a schematic that contains hundreds of both? Doubt it. In non-trivial circuits you'll use "shorthands" (like dedicated symbols for latches, complex ICs etc.)

>which I doubt you have.
Correct, because I've been using the superior European symbols. Currently pursuing my Master's degree.

> not impractical
They are if objectively superior alternatives exist.

> morons
Name-calling, classy.

>>55884652
What are you trying to prove? Should we use random squiggles for those symbols? At least with rectangles you can easily extend them and have some space to write shorthands, names for signals, add more symbols etc.
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>>55884710
>What are you trying to prove?
i literally implied that IEC symbols are a metric shit-ton more versatile.
which is fantastic
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>>55884710
alright, I think I see where you're coming from on the inputs. But unfortunately it doesnt make it any more approachable for a lay person, and really the explanation for the OR symbol isnt something that makes sense from a pure mathematical sense either unless you learn the abstract framework underneath it, which defeats the purpose imo
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>>55884783
2bh the logic symbols are a clusterfuck in any case.

& in a rectangle is AND (because that's what that symbol usually means in writing)
& in formulae is XOR because fuck you
+ in formulae is OR despite (1 bit) addition being XOR
⋅ in formulae is AND despite multiplication being implemented differently
NOT in formulae is a horizontal line above the signal name, or a horizontal line with a little downwards bit on the right. Strikethrough would be more intuitive
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>>55884918
I 100% agree.
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>>55883411
Nice pun.
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>>55884998
>tfw not /ece/ enough to get the pun
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