Are the memes true? Do people actually use this shit? Somehow

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emerge rear-pain

Install Gentoo

Isn't gentoo only usuable through a terminal? What kind of sick fucko would use it as such!?

>>55882207
what? no you just compile everything yourself. you can have a desktop env

>>55882105
I use it on my own server, the stable branch doesn't get updates often and it's pretty comfy to run a minimal system without bloat and sydtemd

No, it's just the resident archfags who don't know that portage automates almost everything and arch's build system is just a poor imitation of portage.

I started using it on my laptop a little while ago.
It's a bitch to wait through the initial compile, but once that's over it feels very elegant and comfy.

>>55882556
>I use it on my own server
what do people actually use servers for on /g/?

I might try it if I ever build a decent desktop. Arch is much better suited for the shitty computers I use now.

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>>55882636
I run a few websites, tor node, znc

I once went into a bookstore where they used gentoo+MATE as their OS. Weird day.

>>55882105
You know you can install Archlinux.

>>55882694
Why are you lying about having a server? Does the fantasy help?

>>55882756
the new meme

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>>55882765
I can link you my website if you'd like

>>55882817
Pictures of server internals time stamped or gtfo.

>>55882843
Right now it's all migrated to a VPS.

Is that okay or does it not match your definition of owning a server?

>>55882872
You don't "own" a server then. You're renting it. :^)

>>55882817
I run Gentoo too. Please share your website so I can do penetration testing and compare results.

>>55882912
Fair enough. I run some internal services on an old laptop I leave on that runs gentoo, would that be considered a server in your opinion?

>>55882919
Thanks for the offer, it's not hosted on a gentoo system atm.

>>55882936
So you don't use it on your own server?

>>55882936
Sure, it technically meets the definition, but its not server hardware and would not have any of the features server hardware would have.

>>55882974
I've been moving around alot, so I moved it to a platform

>>55882979
What if said laptop had a very good processor and lots of ramsss

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damn right I'm using it

>>55882105
It actually looks pretty neat and useful.

Unfortunately I don't have hours to days to waste letting it compile everything. I'd give it a try if I did, though.

>>55883003
My dick would get hard then soft and I would pee.

>>55882979
>le no true server fallacy

>>55883003
What a shame. What kind of platform?

>>55883019
Don't you get RSI using a mouse dependent WM?

>>55883031
What fallacy? Server hardware has features that your basic consumer products don't have or need.

>>55883065
Like what?

>>55882105
i did, 12 years ago.

>>55883058
Indeed a shame. Currently just a cheapish VPS, but they don't monitor bandwidth much so I can get away with alot.

>>55883076
Like 0.2s on Wikipedia it took to find this. What do want spoon fed next peas or carrots?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Server_(computing)#Hardware_requirement

>>55882207
What kind of retardation caused you to think this?

>>55883131
The state of the world. It has been poisoned.

>>55883076
kvm over ip
ecc ram
psu designed for 24/7 usage (some consumer-grade psus are, like the higher-end superflower models)

>>55883058
well if not from wm then you sure would get it from using the browser

>>55883119
Sure it is a baseline, but if you just want to run some internal services, it all depends on the OS and what services you want to run to effectively determine the hardware.

>>55883119
There's nothing about "features" here. Please learn about technogy before you shitpost here, you clearly have no idea what you're talking about

>>55883024
That's not an issue if you're using a multicore desktop processor made in the last 10 years

>>55883065
>>55883119
Most servers are basic consumer products, unless you're willing to spend enough money for something decent.

Is a database server running on a proper server with repurposed PCs as replication slaves still a server?

>>55883178
I use herbstluftwm as wm, vim as editor and vimium for the browser, and my rsi issues went away.

>>55883171
I feel you man, but that's mainly for enterprise servers and pretty expensive for every day common servers.

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>>55883205
>>55883210
>>55883245
>can't admit their Pentium IIIs aren't servers

Remember that old ad for like Windows NT Server where it was a bunch of sysadmins sitting around bored with a tagline like "Ever since we installed Windows Server our uptime is measured in days not hours" and every Unix/Linux guy fucking laughed because their uptime was measured in months/years since the 70's.

>>55883271
That's like saying Linux is an operating system into itself.

The purpose makes something a server, not the hardware.

>>55883271
why cant a p3 be server? they were used in servers and they can be used nowadays too.

>>55883288
You can stick feathers up your ass, but that doesn't make you chicken does it?

>>55883288
typically things like redundant PSU's, ECC memory, actual server CPU's are considered server, but yeah a raspi can technically be your garage door opening server man.

like it's all servers, myan.

>>55883328
You can have PSU's, ECC memory, actual server CPU's, but that doesn't make it a productive efficient server, does it?

>>55883357
It's the operating system that counts. It's all about Gentoo.

>>55883245
>mainly for enterprise servers and pretty expensive
true for kvm over ip, and you don't even need that if the box is sitting in your basement.

ecc ram should have been universally adopted 10 years ago, the price difference is only around 10% for the memory itself. the large premium you'll pay for an ecc system is caused by intel's pricing policy.

premade computers will come with shit psus so people will buy a replacement sooner (a failing psu often kills many other components). no intelligent person would cheap out on the psu for a custom build.

>>55883408
Server CPUs don't exist according to some faggots here.

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>>55882636
Storage for anime

>>55883271
>20w TDP
>easily found on anything from micro-atx to dual-processor server motherboards
Why do you hate freedom

>>55883357
>redundant PSU
meme, any piece of shit can be redundant, until it's not anymore
>ECC memory
not limited to server motherboards
>actual server CPU
a bit more cache and jew magic

multilib support
improved optimization flags
runs on fucking every non-x86 cpu ever

the meme is you, OP

>>55883523
>not an argument

>>55882105
Runs on most of my servers, OpenBSD for network stack & Gentoo hardened for the rest.

>>55883527
>tfw gentoo on my PPC mac

Feels gr8 man

It also runs on a fucking tesla

http://www.su-tesla.space/2016/04/gentoo-tesla-t2-edition.html

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>>55882105
It's my main distro.

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>>55883024
It really doesn't take that long... are you never away from your computer for an extended period of time? If not then you should have a long hard look at your life.

>>55883024
Compiling doesn't actually take that long, plus you can download precompied packages. And compiling something doesn't prevent you from using your computer to do other stuff.

>mfw kde is not an option on gentoo cause compile times

>>55882207
Not a Linuxfag and even I know you can install DEs.

>>55884265
>mfw people can't stand being away from their computer/only have one machine

>>55882817
yes please

>>55884314
How's that even related?

>>55884265
Get a modern computer, g++ compile times have massively improved on multicore setups. It doesn't take 24 hours to compile KDE like it used to.

>>55884415
Even one hour is too much.

>>55884437
Patience is a virtue anon. Once you've been developing C++ for years you get used to compile times.

>>55884265
Download the binary package then, faggot.

>>55884497
I'm not developing software though. I just want to use it.

>>55884538
What's the point of a source based distribution then?

>>55884698
>I'm not developing software though. I just want to use it.
I don't understand what you're trying to do. You're in free software country now son. Round these parts there is no practical difference between using the software and hacking on it, they are one in the same.

The board sticky is a meme, rms does not support gentoo

https://stallman.org/to-4chan.html

>>55882105
I'd rather use FreeBSD than Gentoo. Gentoo is hobby tier

For now Ubuntu is okay

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>People don't use Gentoo
People are always going to be insecure about the shitty software they have on their machine because it's not on par with Gentoo.

Portage is the best Ports-like system.
The amount of possibilities Gentoo offers is nearly endless.
There's only a few distributions that can even slightly compare to the capabilities of Gentoo and most of them are either inspired by Gentoo or Gentoo forks.
People should really do some research so that they don't come off as blatantly ignorant.

someone post a screenfetch of gentoo that doesn't look autistic.

>>55883849
I mean that I don't have a full weekend to waste with the install. You can't just let it install and leave, you have to keep checking in on it and enter commands. I can't do that on weekends, as I'm usually away from home. And on weekdays I have work and school.

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>>55886688
holy fuck quadruple doubles

>>55886784
but you do have time to waste on this site during weekdays?

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>>55886784
But only because you have quadruple doubles

>>55886957
im not him but thanks. everyone with these minimal OSs are anime pedo fags. thats why no one can take them serious.

>>55887011
That's not nice! What are you running?

>>55887041
>T-T-Thats lewd!

>>>/a/

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Gentoo is the strongest.

>>55883468
Explain

>>55886688
I'd post mine but I can't find a screenshot utility for KDE4 since KScreenshot is, apparently, deprecated.
Fuck KDE, actually, I'd install xfce if rebuilding half the system wasn't such a pain in the ass. You feel the irony of my words? Because you should.

>>55887693

 sudo pacman -Rsu plasma kde-applications 

 sudo pacman -S xfce4 xfce4-goodies 

;)

>>55887011
You're on fucking 4chins retard

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>>55886957
>>55886065
>>55883790
>1920x1080
I want normies to leave

>>55882207
Wow. You are fucking retarded.

>>55887786
>implying it would just work
You'd need a login manager at least.

>>55887847
>You'd need a login manager at least.

why

>>55884357
I think he meant you can compile when you're not using the computer (walk away), or use another computer while compiling KDE, or maybe even cross compile

>>55887873
Because xfce4 does not contain one. Or does it?

I use it on my desktop, laptop, raspi, server, htpc, and media server

it has a completely different configuration on each and satisfies a fundamentally different role. It is compiled for ARM on the Raspi, it has KDE on the desktop, i3 on the laptop, it doesn't have X on the media server or web server, the HTPC has vdpau and ffmpeg but uses alsa, the desktop is multi-arch for muh gaymen and uses pulseaudio to simplify USB headphone plugging, the laptop is light with ~500 packages and uses systemd for fast boots, the desktop has ~1100 and uses openRC for stability and simplicity. All of them are Gentoo, and not one has a single unnecessary package.

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pleb here.
How hard is to install gentoo without breaking it and at same time make it look good AND be easy to use after (ex: having a good desktop environment, essential software, etc) kinda mint tier for retarded people like me.

>>55887891
It does not, so I guess you have to either edit xinitrc or install lightdm and enable it.

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The one thing holding me back from using Gentoo is weirdness with USE flags. I'll install a piece of software with whatever USE flags I have in my config file, realize something's fucked, go to look at what other flags are available, and be unable to. Portage decides once you install a package to quit showing what flags are available on that package when you search for it, and I have no idea what to change in configuration or what to pass to it to fix that.
Also kernel configuration is a pain in the cunt and I always fuck up and lock myself out of using my wireless card.

>>55887811
>Gentoo
>Normie

Pick one

>>55888163
Portage comes with a lot of great tools. Use eix. Equery is another good one. Kernel config is a breeze. The only issue I had was configuring Grub and my initramfs to support LVM and LUKS as well as my modesetting which I fixed right after I realized what I did wrong.

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>>55888336
>equery
>eix
I found the wiki pages for those and they look promising. We'll see if they have the same jankiness that portage does when packages are installed.
>Kernel config is a breeze
I have no idea what I'm doing wrong every time I try and configure it by hand, but I always end up without wireless at the end of it all. I've just resigned myself to using genkernel and praying everything works out, it's marginally more reliable than trying to do it by hand.

>>55887693
I don't know why people use that shit. Just use scrot.

Gentoo is absolutely fucking shit and useless, most of it is waiting for shit to compile. Chromium takes the longest, even if you set up make.conf correctly. Just use Arch.

>>55886857
Sure, I can post from my phone easy. Takes less than five seconds and doesn't begin to compare to installing Gentoo.

>>55883790
>uptime: 48 minutes

get.out

>>55889135
Arch Linux is software anarchy. Gentoo is geared toward network professionals and software devs, not hobbiest NEETs who think they're 1337. The only people who say that Gentoo sucks really don't know all that much when it comes to GNU/Linux.

lol I bet the guy who made this thread is another Arch nemesis who is pissy about his inferior operating system with shitty support.

>>55883167
and I suspect you're just 12 years old enough to fix it?

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I run Gentoo on my desktop and on a cheap, low-powered Celeron home server (DHCP/NTP/NFS/SMB/Apache/etc). Experimenting on the server with grsec and hardened tools is pretty interesting.

>>55886957
>>55886065
>>55883790
>>55883849
how do you get these specs to show up in cmd? i am very new and a faggot

>>55892753
Screenfetch

>>55892823
fuck i'm an idiot
my bad

>>55887981
>not using distcc

>>55888098
Install Gentoo

>>55888654
Just follow this https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Wifi

Likely you are either missing the kernel module for you specific wireless card and/or the firmware blob for it

>>55889974
Nothing is inferior to arch.

>>55888098
If you can RTFM, are willing to learn and have half a brain you won't have any issues. If you lack any one of those than you will problems, end up install arch and come here to whine about how bad gentoo is.

>>55888163
>go to look at what other flags are available
emerge -pv

>kernel configuration is a pain
It can be, but if you don't rush and avoid rage setting then you will be ok.

>>55888654
Boot into the live environment, your wifi should work within this, check lspci -k for the driver then search for that. That's how I got the majority of my hardware sorted.

>>55889491
Stick with mint, or ubunutu or windows or whatever it is that means you never, ever have to take a break from your precious computer.

>>55882105
yes

>>55882105
I'm using Mint ATM because I bought a ThinkPad and got impatient when I couldn't get the wifi to work within 15 min. on the Gentoo minimal install stick, but boy do I miss having total control over my system. Mint is super easy and works good enough out of the box, but if you want to do shit like connecting a PVM via the VGA out (using an adapter for YPbPr component cables), you're much better off with Gentoo.

It's one of those "if you don't know why you need it, you don't need it" things.

>>55883505
>Storage for anime
That's cool and all, but what is the advantage over external HDDs?

>>55883019
what is your electricity bill?

>>55883212
>vimium
Holy shit how have I not heard of this? Thanks anon

>>55893084
I said Arch is inferior

why is gentoo good?

I'm up on my meme machine with gentoo, dwm, st and surf.
It's fucking comfy I gotta say.
The only thing nagging me is webkit's shitty font rendering. Some fonts are weirdly subpixel rendered, some aren't, some are proper. What the fuck webkit.

>>55889550
I'm helping the environments by switching off my computer now and then.

>>55888163
>spend literally 50 hours manually creating .config for kernel
>compile
>shit won't boot
>no fucking clue what's causing it
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>55893300
Indexing and streaming presumably

>>55893870
Install Gentoo.

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stop meming about linux distro, if you don't see why you should use it, don't use it

>>55882207
>what is Linux
Please get off this board

>>55882636
I have a high interaction honeypot hosted at home

>>55888098
Use Ubuntu until you are comfortable with a shell, compiling software (maybe try compiling the kernel keeping the default one as fallback) and understand which components are needed for a functional install (installing arch could be educative for this)
Then try installing in a VM and finally on bare metal

>>55882105
I just installed Mint as my first GNU/linux distro. Im thinking I will try Debian next, then put on my big boy pants and #installgentoo